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14:53.47*** topic/#maemo is DNS switch for migra#2 DONE - see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1329038 || Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
14:53.51thedead1440np good to see you take a break from IRC for a day :D
14:54.01DocScrutinizer05sick
14:54.21thedead1440oh rest then
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14:56.04DocScrutinizer05~+status
14:56.04infobotSince Mon Mar 25 14:52:24 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 2 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 3m 40s this session, and currently reference 119004 factoids.  I'm using about 18508 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2.15/0.14 child 0.01/0
14:56.42thedead1440oh there is a #meego channel; i wonder what's up in it
14:57.33ShadowJKheh, not much
14:59.23thedead1440ah, was wondering that; there is one for mer and nemo so what purpose meego serves then :D
15:08.37DocScrutinizer05well, check chanlogs ;-P
15:15.23thedead1440DocScrutinizer05: hehe it is competing with #n9 for most dead chan :D
15:16.28DocScrutinizer05well, even #harmattan had scaring dead times recently
15:16.40DocScrutinizer05>1 days without any msg
15:16.46thedead1440yeah true
15:17.09thedead1440but now that i'm there i'll keep it noisy :D :D
15:17.54DocScrutinizer05you lifted a N950 somewhere?
15:17.57DocScrutinizer05;-P
15:19.10thedead1440haha no; i just have a big mouth in general :D
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16:02.03thedead1440ivgalvez: hi; been a long time; hope all is fine and tidy :)
16:02.20ivgalvezThanks
16:02.24ivgalvezglad to see you
16:02.35ivgalvezwell I'm freezing to death here
16:02.43thedead1440in ireland?
16:03.10ivgalvezyep
16:03.32ivgalvezand the apartment that I rented doesn't have a very good heating system
16:03.39thedead1440ouch
16:03.54ivgalvezbut I'm starting to have everything under control now
16:04.12thedead1440ah that's good
16:04.57ivgalvezI've been reading some of the latest drama
16:05.13thedead1440its the daily soap of maemo as usual :D
16:05.16ivgalvezhaha
16:05.18ivgalvezyep
16:07.06thedead1440at least DocScrutinizer05 chose to resume being maemo-administrator. for the remaining things; meh people will be tired eventually :D
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16:08.05ivgalvezare you mainatining scratchbox.org?
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16:08.22thedead1440the VM on maemo yes but the domain i've no news
16:08.41thedead1440i've sent like ~5 reminders to Jussi (spelling?) but no reply :(
16:08.42ivgalvezdo you have Jussy's email?
16:08.50ivgalvezhe's owner of the domain
16:09.32thedead1440yeah i've asked him if he could point it to our infra or anything he suggests as well as giving him maintainer-ship account on the new VM if he wants but he simply isn't replying
16:10.07ivgalvezwell, he might be busy, keep pushing!!
16:10.15thedead1440hehe sure
16:12.57discopiglol
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16:15.23ivgalvezmmm, I'm trying to upgrade some packages and I keep receiving a corrupted tar files, applications with 0Kb size...
16:15.29ivgalvezI think the repo is borked
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16:21.36thedead1440ivgalvez: which packages? report it to jacekowski or DocScrutinizer05
16:22.27DocScrutinizer05me?
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16:22.39DocScrutinizer05merlin1991 is repo meintainer
16:23.02ivgalvezI'm still checking, but I had problems with latest cutetube, modrana, gpsp... maybe it's something in my package database
16:23.24ivgalvezHi DocScrutinizer05
16:23.28ivgalveznice to see you
16:23.40DocScrutinizer05nah, I think somebody ran a job on repo which borked several packages again
16:23.58DocScrutinizer05hi ivgalvez, nice to see you too
16:24.42Woody14619Yay.  Ivgalvez is here. :)  Things going well on your end I hope? :)
16:24.43DocScrutinizer05or they are still legacy errors from migration nokia->nemein, or even older
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16:25.12ivgalvezHi Woody14219
16:25.23ivgalvezeverything OK
16:25.24Woody14619wonders how many automated scripts are still out there borking things.
16:25.40ivgalvezexcept for upgrading packages
16:25.44ivgalvez<PROTECTED>
16:25.46Woody14619May need to call for a cleanout (or at least full review) of all things cron/atd
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16:27.58DocScrutinizer05I think some rsync done back in 2012 went terribly wrong, and nobody checked the errors it threw
16:28.35keriomodrana is recent, though
16:28.43DocScrutinizer05mhm, good info
16:28.53ivgalvez<PROTECTED>
16:29.05thedead1440i upgraded cutetube only yesterday w/o issues
16:29.11DocScrutinizer05pester merlin1991 about it, who in turn might pester jacekowsky or whomever
16:29.28ivgalvezCutetube, openmediaplayer, modrana gone for good after the error in installation
16:29.45DocScrutinizer05I stopped close surveillance and coordination of everything I come across
16:30.02thedead1440maybe something changed today? the first 2 i upgraded yesterday fine while i don't have modrana personally
16:30.41thedead1440ivgalvez: try installing/upgrading them individually maybe? it may help to narrow down to whether all are borked or only one...
16:30.46Woody14619ivgalvez: In a pinch, MartinK has his own repo setup for modrana.
16:31.03Woody14619He set it up while the repos were down, and still updates it AFAIK.
16:31.11ivgalveznope, any package I try to install from repositories end up with the same error
16:31.16DocScrutinizer05thedead1440: ask for changes done today then. You know where, and whom to ask. While I just had to bitch about missing coordination if actually something changed today
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16:32.06ivgalvezcan anyone try to install one recent application from repo and chek if it installs OK? but do it with something that you can live without
16:32.33Woody14619will attempt to update modrana... one sec
16:33.33Woody14619need to do an update...  Changed it to manual a while back, so out of date here.
16:33.49DocScrutinizer05BM!
16:36.28thedead1440hmm i just purged cutetube and tried installing it; installation went fine w/o errors
16:36.29Woody14619crap.. modtrana wants to pull half the universe with it.  Apparently beena while since I updated it.  
16:36.54ivgalvezbe careful
16:37.00thedead1440Woody14619: hehe i saw and skipped installing it for the same reason too :D
16:37.13Woody14619yeah... I'm installing cutetube now. :)
16:37.33ivgalvezI have broken all the packages that I have downloaded
16:37.43Woody14619Or not.. crap.  It wants the universe too.. :P
16:37.48Woody14619What was the third one?
16:37.58thedead1440openmediaplayer
16:38.26ivgalvezto me it happens with ANY package
16:38.40ivgalvezI think I have broken the system for good now
16:38.50Woody14619check your free space?
16:39.02ivgalvezmore than enough
16:39.30Woody14619hmmm... I had a similar thing once when syslog ate my drive without me realizing it.
16:40.06Woody14619am updating ffmpeg right now, since that's the heart of cutetube updates I think.  Seems to be going fine...
16:41.04Woody14619are you pointing to the right place?  What IP do you get when you ping repos.maemo.org?
16:41.19thedead1440ivgalvez: maybe remove the contents of /var/lib/apt/lists and then do a proper update?
16:41.57DocScrutinizer05NEVER remove anything, rename instead!
16:42.13DocScrutinizer05and do a BM backup!!
16:42.24thedead1440DocScrutinizer05: those are package lists for repos
16:43.25ivgalvezat this moment the backup is useless, so no one has problems with repos?
16:45.20Woody14619I have a BM backup from yesterday, thus my willingness to try it. :)
16:48.05Woody14619cutetube install seems to have gone fine?  It whines about some qt package issues (old depenancies conflicting) but packages are good.
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16:52.23ivgalveznah, then is my device
16:52.31ivgalvezrestoring with BM now
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17:02.32ivgalvezcan anyone paste me the links for flasher and firmware images? I don't have my main computer with me  
17:04.39keriomaemo.jacekowski.org
17:04.57kerioivgalvez: http://maemo.jacekowski.org/ binary/firmware/ (not sure if the full link should be posted)
17:05.05freemangordonanyone glib here? does it make sense to check boxed type before calling g_boxed_free? Is that even possible (getting the type from a pointer to boxed object)?
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17:09.09ivgalvezthanks kerio
17:09.35keriothere's probably a more "official" place, but that one's just convenient :)
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17:13.06ivgalvezdo you know where can I download flasher for Windows?
17:13.12DocScrutinizer05ivgalvez: ~skeiron
17:13.17ivgalvezI only have Windows here :/
17:13.20kerioivgalvez: debian.org
17:13.22DocScrutinizer05~skeiron
17:13.22infobotmethinks skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/   http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143
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17:14.58DocScrutinizer05Maemo 5 for Nokia N900  -> Command line flasher binaries are available here.
17:15.50DocScrutinizer05seems Nokia and HiFo missed completely to take care about this and nearby content
17:16.18DocScrutinizer05and community missed to point HiFo to it?
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17:19.16ivgalvezthanks DocScrutinizer05
17:19.36ivgalvezI have to download everything again as I don't have my main computer here in Dublin
17:21.04DocScrutinizer05ivgalvez:
17:21.07DocScrutinizer05~pr131
17:21.07infobotrumour has it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin  or  http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
17:24.02DocScrutinizer05ivgalvez: ^^^ will save you SSU upgrade Pr1.3->Pr1.3.1
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17:24.11kerioDocScrutinizer05: with the same VANILLA?
17:24.14lastaidhello there :)
17:24.16DocScrutinizer05yep
17:24.32DocScrutinizer05vanilla hasn't changed since... err... 1.1?
17:24.40ivgalvezthanks
17:25.09lastaidi am having issues with my glorioous n900 already installed the 1.3 community edition of maemo and everything, but i cannot get any twitter client or anything social working on my phone
17:25.17ivgalvezbut BM worked as a charm, God bless Robbie1st
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17:27.21DocScrutinizer05indeed
17:27.42DocScrutinizer05BM for all time most useful app ever
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17:30.55DocScrutinizer05I'd vote for CSSU including BM to core apps mandatory on every device (it already is mandatory for CSSU anyway;-D ), and HiFo donating a special award to robbiethe1st
17:32.41DocScrutinizer05wait, council is the entity to donate any award, HiFo is just the entity to finance it ;-)
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17:34.36Woody14619Actually, Robbiethe1st did get a CA award, for just this reason.  He was one of like 3 that were in the "duh" catagory for getting one. ;)
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17:37.41DocScrutinizer05may I ask what that award been?
17:40.18DocScrutinizer05I'd think we should donate a (spare) N900 to robbiethe1st
17:41.12DocScrutinizer05just to keep him doing service for BM, even in case his primary N900 breaks or gets lost
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19:02.02GeneralAntillesWhat's falk's username on maemo.org?
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19:37.58DocScrutinizer05hmm
19:38.12DocScrutinizer05warfare?
19:38.16DocScrutinizer05falk?
19:38.21DocScrutinizer05falkstern?
19:38.37DocScrutinizer05warfare: ^^^
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19:40.46DocScrutinizer05IRC(freenode): warfare
19:40.48DocScrutinizer05IRC(ircnet): falk
19:40.50DocScrutinizer05talk.maemo.org: fstern
19:40.51DocScrutinizer05garage.maemo.org: fstern
19:41.10DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: ^^^
19:42.15RiDstalker!
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20:22.31DocScrutinizer05if googling falk stern is stalking, then yes
20:22.58DocScrutinizer05google for xing as well, while you're at it
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20:34.07kerioNIN101: what's the version of ubimkvol in rescueos 1.0?
20:37.39DocScrutinizer05NIN101: would you mind me edit your rescueOS readme?
20:38.06kerioah this is crap, there's no mkfs.ubifs
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20:39.46kerioNIN101: there's no mkfs.ubifs!
20:46.46kerioNIN101: where the hell did you get these ubiutils from
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20:53.34NIN101DocScrutinizer05: go ahead.
20:54.05NIN101kerio: may come in the next version...
20:54.17keriowell i barely rescued my rootfs :(
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20:56.22kerioNIN101: it's in mtd-utils
20:58.01NIN101yeah, it'll come in the next version...
20:58.08keriowhy is there no help, dammit
20:58.12kerio:(
21:01.15DocScrutinizer05kerio: as long as there's a wget ;-)
21:01.57DocScrutinizer05NIN101: I "mirrored" your stuff on maemo-cloud-7.de
21:02.50keriocan someone check what's the Volume ID reported by `ubinfo -a` for rootfs?
21:03.08kerioor, if possible, pastebin the output of `ubinfo -a`
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21:06.46vi_I am trying to update mp-fremantle-community-pr but apt keeps complaining that I need to update upstart and rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait! wtf.  I already have the latest upstart?
21:06.47vi_??
21:06.48vi_?
21:06.58keriowell apparently not?
21:08.53NIN101kerio: sorry, no ubinfo anywhere atm.
21:09.06NIN101DocScrutinizer05: What exactly do you want to do :-)?
21:09.18DocScrutinizer05augment it a bit
21:09.25kerioNIN101: sudo apt-get install mtd-utils
21:09.29DocScrutinizer05I think it's too terse
21:09.30kerioit's in extras-devel
21:10.19DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/cc2ab35a83
21:11.01kerio<3
21:11.12DocScrutinizer05:)
21:12.02keriomeh, i suppose that it's ok how i made it
21:12.07kerioi'm leaving 34 eraseblocks "free"
21:12.17kerioi don't know how ubi handles bad physical eraseblocks
21:12.24kerioi have one of those :(
21:13.23DocScrutinizer05it marks it as bad (by a bitpattern that's supposed to get recognized even on partially bad blocks afaik), and allocates a spare block from the free ones
21:13.46kerioso the read/write address is automatically translated? neat
21:14.00DocScrutinizer05afaik yes
21:14.28vi_what are you doing kerio?
21:14.37keriovi_: disabled compression on rootfs
21:14.48kerioit feels a bit snappier but i don't know if it's wishful thinking/confirmation bias
21:16.01DocScrutinizer05probably a very poor choice
21:16.26keriowhy?
21:16.44DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# du -hxs /
21:16.46DocScrutinizer05323M    /
21:17.01keriouser@kerio900:~$ sudo du -hsx /
21:17.02kerio196.9M/
21:17.12kerioso...
21:17.13kerioyeah
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21:17.45DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# df -h /
21:17.46DocScrutinizer05Dateisystem           Size  Used Avail Use% EingehÃĪngt auf
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21:18.20kerioquite comparable, really :)
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21:19.34kerioa lot comes from locale-archive
21:19.34kerioi think
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21:22.02keriooh, and the browser
21:22.10keriowhich then shows scrollbars in Conversations :s
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23:17.35vi_~seen martink
23:17.37infobotvi_: i haven't seen 'martink'
23:18.31vi_~seen my own dick in years
23:18.31infoboti haven't seen 'my own dick in years', vi_
23:19.12vi_~flagilate infobot
23:19.38vi_~seen wikiwide
23:19.39infobotvi_: i haven't seen 'wikiwide'
23:19.59vi_~smite infobot
23:19.59infobotACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves infobot from crown to sole.
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23:56.13infoboti haven't seen 'vi*', DocScrutinizer05
23:56.18DocScrutinizer05:-S
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23:57.16infobotvi__ <~Thunderbi@proxy.ei-info.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3d 11h 6m 38s ago, saying: 'There is also a profile built into the gui.'.

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