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| 00:19.28 | dimir | In my n900 a Phone app launches on Desktop rotation. Any ideas how to turn that thing off? |
| 00:19.42 | Lava_Croft | in the phone app itself |
| 00:19.50 | Lava_Croft | it has a menu at the top |
| 00:20.26 | dimir | haha |
| 00:20.31 | dimir | thanks a lot Lava_Croft! |
| 00:20.35 | Lava_Croft | no problem! |
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| 00:23.24 | dimir | And what about disabling Desktop rotation? |
| 00:24.03 | Lava_Croft | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 00:24.04 | Lava_Croft | in there |
| 00:24.38 | Lava_Croft | near the bottom |
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| 00:27.11 | dimir | The "gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false && reboot" thing? |
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| 00:29.15 | dimir | OK, rebooting... |
| 00:31.28 | dimir | Lava_Croft: Oh man, that worked! Thanks again! :-) |
| 00:37.50 | dimir | So, while at it, is there a way to disable intro sound on boot? |
| 00:37.57 | dimir | I mean the Nokia jingle. |
| 00:38.07 | dimir | I'm OK with the video, I just want to disable sound. |
| 00:38.36 | dimir | And when it wasn't Silent after last boot. |
| 00:53.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only know how to replace (or nuke) the complete video |
| 00:53.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | again see my tools page |
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| 00:54.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could edit the shaking hands video on your PC, remove the sound, and replace the original with that edited one |
| 00:55.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly simply nuking the whole video is way simpler than to mute it |
| 00:56.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | dimir: btw that gconf setting vanishes as soon as you touch the orientation-lock in status menu |
| 00:56.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | you have to redo it after that |
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| 01:16.08 | Psi | anyone know what codec/codecs the stock n900 mediaplayer can decode in hardware from a upnp server? |
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| 02:08.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, good question |
| 02:08.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | the "in hardware" detail makes answering a bit tricky :-) |
| 02:10.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure you are aware this is basically a question related to mafw |
| 02:10.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | and PA |
| 02:12.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#Audio_Subsystem |
| 02:16.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Psi: ^^^ |
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| 03:34.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | FYI: http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure#Introduction updated/augmented |
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| 05:50.58 | Psi | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 05:51.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | Psi: yw |
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| 05:52.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I can't recall better details, somebody else here might know though |
| 05:52.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are some PA / gst plugins known to operate on DSP, others are just AP |
| 05:53.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait, I got one loosely related article for you... |
| 05:57.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay, sometimes it takes a while to locate the bookmark i'm searching for: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2009/11/07/n900-battery-duration-ogg-vs-mp3/ |
| 05:59.10 | RST38h | ah, that link... |
| 06:08.49 | kerio | iirc mafw doesn't do hardware-accelerated audio |
| 06:08.50 | kerio | only video |
| 06:10.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | in the end who knows for sure |
| 06:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | though http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#Audio_Subsystem says that usually all codecs run on AP, for avoiding overhead and latency of passing stuff to DSP |
| 06:12.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | which probably makes sense |
| 06:13.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Psi: why is it important for you to know if the codec runs on hw or in sw? |
| 06:14.23 | kerio | ...holy crap, that's a complicated setup |
| 06:15.37 | kerio | anyway, i'd like dsp music playback - i don't care much about that kind of latency, and it would leave the cpu a bit more free for other tasks |
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| 06:17.23 | Psi | DocScrutinizer05: i want to setup upnp access to digital tv on my phone. But im not sure what to transcode the dvbt feed into |
| 06:18.08 | Psi | it works if i use MPEG1 but that's not very good |
| 06:18.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh damn, you're talking about video codecs |
| 06:18.45 | Psi | ya |
| 06:18.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 06:19.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#Image_Codecs_and_Filters |
| 06:19.57 | kerio | might wanna ask freemangordon too |
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| 06:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#Video_Codecs |
| 06:21.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think only h.263 (or 4?) baseline is supported |
| 06:22.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | what this means for your myriad of container formats... don't ask me |
| 06:23.06 | Psi | yeah |
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| 06:25.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think on wiki there are some articles about transcoding video for playback on N900. maybe search for "handbrake" iirc |
| 06:25.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo might also have some threads about that topic |
| 06:26.07 | NitaChan | Does anyone know if the maemo.org repos are down permanently? I haven't been able to access them at all for the last two days on my N900 |
| 06:26.19 | NitaChan | Also, what's that about transcoding? |
| 06:26.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repo-down |
| 06:26.20 | infobot | i guess repo-down is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-20.log.html#t2013-01-20T02:08:42 |
| 06:26.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 06:27.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn |
| 06:27.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~_default repo-down |
| 06:27.23 | infobot | i heard repo-down is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-30.log.html#t2013-01-30T00:51:04 |
| 06:28.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo repo-down is also http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-30.log.html#t2013-01-30T00:51:04 |
| 06:28.05 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 06:28.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repo-down |
| 06:28.10 | infobot | rumour has it, repo-down is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-20.log.html#t2013-01-20T02:08:42, or http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-30.log.html#t2013-01-30T00:51:04 |
| 06:28.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget _default repo-down |
| 06:28.24 | infobot | i didn't have anything called '_default repo-down' to forget, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 06:28.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | grrr |
| 06:28.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget repo-down |
| 06:28.44 | infobot | i forgot repo-down, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 06:28.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repo-down |
| 06:28.50 | infobot | repo-down is probably http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-20.log.html#t2013-01-20T02:08:42, or http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-30.log.html#t2013-01-30T00:51:04 |
| 06:29.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal repo-down |
| 06:29.00 | infobot | "#maemo repo-down" is "http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-20.log.html#t2013-01-20T02:08:42, or http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-30.log.html#t2013-01-30T00:51:04" |
| 06:30.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~_default repo-down |
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| 06:34.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, nitachan been a visitor in a hurry, eh? |
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| 06:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~mirrors |
| 06:36.29 | infobot | i guess mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
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| 07:21.03 | freemangordon | kerio: mafw uses playbin2, so it is up to gstreamer to decide which codec |
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| 09:20.29 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: I am three monkeys! and th fsck I hate those lazy bstrds not reading a top posted visible everywhere notice on tmo... |
| 09:21.08 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: and who complains... having 2 out of 700 active users complain is fairly not enough |
| 09:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hooh, what's up? |
| 09:21.47 | chem|st | I had sex till 5 slept 4 hours and had not enough coffee |
| 09:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 09:22.02 | chem|st | or do you mean those lazy basterds |
| 09:22.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 09:22.12 | RST38h | snow |
| 09:22.29 | chem|st | most real mail to webmaster is people not reading http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88707 |
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| 09:23.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | set up an autoresponder "please read http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88707 and include first 3 words of first post to your mail subject, or otherwise... spam-folder, Thank you for your cooperation" |
| 09:23.59 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: would you mind and give me numbers on which posts I delete to have only valid info in this thread |
| 09:24.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, no problem |
| 09:24.52 | chem|st | thedead1440: please update the starting post to become realy for dummies |
| 09:24.57 | chem|st | even I am confused |
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| 09:25.33 | chem|st | starting post has to be a guide to __ONE__ |
| 09:25.36 | thedead1440 | chem|st: are you confused due to lack of sleep? |
| 09:25.43 | chem|st | not 3 mirrors pls |
| 09:26.02 | thedead1440 | ah you want me to remove the other 2; ok |
| 09:26.08 | chem|st | thedead1440: nope because I got my brain fucked out 4 hours ago... |
| 09:26.18 | thedead1440 | :-D |
| 09:26.23 | chem|st | thedead1440: make it realy for dummies |
| 09:27.49 | chem|st | having the first and second mirror not working properly the other day made things worse |
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| 09:28.15 | chem|st | ping me when you are done, I will stick and lock it |
| 09:28.33 | chem|st | is sticked ok then I will lock it |
| 09:28.50 | thedead1440 | done ;) read it first |
| 09:29.13 | chem|st | you may provide a link to some webIRC with preset credentials to join #maemo |
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| 09:30.30 | thedead1440 | done again |
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| 09:31.04 | chem|st | nice ;) |
| 09:31.07 | chem|st | thedead1440: thanks! |
| 09:31.30 | chem|st | as you ask for reply I do not close it |
| 09:31.33 | thedead1440 | no probs :-) as it is you have another topic going to require your attention on TMO :D |
| 09:31.47 | thedead1440 | its better for all n00bs to post there instead of new threads |
| 09:31.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: sorry, backward... 137-136, 134-114, (113?), 112-91 on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88659 |
| 09:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, i'm afraid you're talking about another thread |
| 09:33.40 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: and you may update your migration thread to have current status only I know people like a changelog but that is not needed here I think |
| 09:34.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, i'd rather stop the whole thread |
| 09:34.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | start a new one |
| 09:34.30 | thedead1440 | or he can keep the changelog chem|st and bold and underline the current status on the top of his post (don't make the old man delete things he'll hit you :p) |
| 09:34.34 | RST38h | better bring the official repos back online |
| 09:34.46 | chem|st | hehe |
| 09:34.54 | RST38h | because no tmo thread will ever solve the problem |
| 09:35.05 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: yeah... you might...not! |
| 09:35.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: i ahppily hand over that duty to you |
| 09:35.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | good luck |
| 09:35.30 | chem|st | anticron like thedead1440 said latest first |
| 09:35.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | away |
| 09:35.41 | RST38h | Doc: Can I also have a BFG-9000? |
| 09:36.24 | chem|st | slaps RST38h with a wet trout coverd with tiny mirror pieces |
| 09:37.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather than bitching at me re repo which I / we CANT fix since it's Nemein's domain, you should enjoy lightning fast firewall since our new magician warfare touched it |
| 09:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ...and swoooosh I'm gone again |
| 09:39.09 | RST38h | once again hears "Nemein" in relation to things not working |
| 09:39.54 | RST38h | has never heard "Nemein" in relation to anything properly working, in fact |
| 09:40.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure |
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| 09:41.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically *everything* that works on *.m.o now is thanks to Nemein |
| 09:42.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | except FW and tmo where "we" helped" a bit (more) |
| 09:43.21 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: lol, FW is supposed to be ok now? |
| 09:43.25 | freemangordon | nice |
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| 09:43.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | it seems to behave since 11h, and the tweaks warfare did are plausible |
| 09:44.18 | freemangordon | damn, it seems like it is ok, lets see how it will continue |
| 09:44.39 | freemangordon | kudos to warfare :) |
| 09:44.48 | cehteh | are the repos back under normal names? |
| 09:44.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas i'm not able to start up repo.m.o VM |
| 09:45.04 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: we need nemein? |
| 09:45.20 | freemangordon | to start that VM that is |
| 09:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, Eero resp "the grid guy" are exposing repo to bypass FW - even when it might work with FW as well now |
| 09:45.51 | freemangordon | yep |
| 09:46.04 | freemangordon | what was it, too small conntrack table? |
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| 09:46.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I have no access to the host, only to the VMs running on the host. So if a VM is "powered down" I can't stat it |
| 09:46.42 | freemangordon | yeah :( |
| 09:46.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | too small conntrack and some other timeout and buffer size settings |
| 09:47.02 | freemangordon | makes sense |
| 09:47.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | mompl |
| 09:47.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo 32768 > /sys/module/nf_conntrack/parameters/hashsize |
| 09:47.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo 256000 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_max |
| 09:47.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo 10 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait |
| 09:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo 10 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_unacknowledged |
| 09:47.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo 600 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established |
| 09:48.08 | freemangordon | I see :) |
| 09:48.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | the latter 3 probably were insanely high |
| 09:48.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and aiui hashsize been 16M |
| 09:48.46 | freemangordon | maybe repos will make it through FW |
| 09:49.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | would, but the FW port forward got scrapped |
| 09:49.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the general IP/network config is already changed |
| 09:49.45 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 09:50.05 | freemangordon | well, once we have the full control, I guess that could be fixed |
| 09:50.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-01-28 10:41:00] <mashiara> ok, stage now has an external vif that is configured but not up, local iptables needs still to be configured. |
| 09:50.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope they will finish on that task today |
| 09:51.08 | freemangordon | BTW is FW a box or VM? |
| 09:51.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | VM |
| 09:51.36 | freemangordon | ok. thanks for the info :) |
| 09:51.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 09:51.56 | freemangordon | is back to embedLite |
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| 10:15.56 | tekno__ | ;) |
| 10:17.45 | tekno__ | :) |
| 10:19.06 | tekno__ | ? |
| 10:19.16 | tekno__ | infobot |
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| 10:41.09 | mad_dev | i know this might sound, insulting...to some extent. but when will this grim go away. |
| 10:42.22 | mad_dev | ok |
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| 10:46.15 | freemangordon | romaxa: why github wants all 3 commits I did merged? I want only one(gstreamer). How to do that? |
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| 10:51.52 | freemangordon | this is stupid :( |
| 10:57.04 | freemangordon | seems I have to create a separate branch for every commit I want merged. Madness :) |
| 10:59.47 | freemangordon | ooh, it seems I can't remove that pull request either. how nice :mad: |
| 11:00.19 | freemangordon | curses github |
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| 11:02.51 | tadzik | freemangordon: you can just cherry-pick them, no? |
| 11:03.06 | tadzik | I don't quite see the problem. You're the merger, or the mergee? |
| 11:03.08 | freemangordon | tadzik: sure, put that is not the point |
| 11:03.14 | freemangordon | mergee |
| 11:03.33 | freemangordon | I want my changes murged "upstream" |
| 11:03.38 | tadzik | ah, so you can't open a pull request for just one commit? |
| 11:03.55 | tadzik | is that what you mean? |
| 11:04.06 | freemangordon | I was thinking github works in the same way as gitorious, on gitorious you create merge request with commits you want merged |
| 11:04.18 | freemangordon | tadzik: yep |
| 11:04.25 | tadzik | on github you do pull requests on branches, yes |
| 11:04.34 | tadzik | "Please pull this branch into your master" |
| 11:04.43 | freemangordon | this is madness |
| 11:04.49 | tadzik | well, is it |
| 11:05.08 | freemangordon | and the worst thing is that I can;t withdraw that pull request in order to fix it :D |
| 11:05.08 | tadzik | doesn't Linux workflow go the same way, with people creating for-linus branches? |
| 11:05.17 | tadzik | You should be able to just close it |
| 11:05.24 | tadzik | or maybe only the merger can do that ;f |
| 11:05.29 | freemangordon | I guess I can |
| 11:05.40 | freemangordon | I have merger rigths |
| 11:07.57 | freemangordon | ooh, I can't close it either |
| 11:08.33 | freemangordon | I can merge it, but can't close it. fuck |
| 11:10.05 | mad_dev | ahh...git, it seems you have another victim |
| 11:12.05 | freemangordon | it is not git to blame, but github |
| 11:12.06 | tadzik | yeah, blame git |
| 11:12.12 | freemangordon | no, why git? |
| 11:12.19 | tadzik | that was ironic |
| 11:12.25 | freemangordon | aah :D |
| 11:13.36 | mad_dev | it was linus who wrote git, right? |
| 11:13.59 | tadzik | yeah |
| 11:16.06 | mad_dev | i remember watching a talk he did at google. he basicly trashed all other systems and declared that git is supreme. arogant, yet true. |
| 11:18.27 | freemangordon | oooh, I managed to close it |
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| 11:45.04 | kerio | darcs is much, much better than git, though |
| 11:49.03 | freemangordon | romaxa: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836243 |
| 11:49.06 | povbot_ | 04Bug 836243: was not found. |
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| 13:12.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 13:12.21 | infobot | :), DocScrutinizer51 |
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| 13:46.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | warfare: ping |
| 13:58.18 | ShadowX | Destination host unreachable :P |
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| 14:33.33 | warfare | DocScrutinizer51: pong |
| 14:34.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: false alarm. thedead1440 reported laggy firewall again, but my checks during last 5 min didn't show anything particularly bad |
| 14:34.36 | warfare | 'k :) |
| 14:36.21 | warfare | ShadowX: just high latency. |
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| 14:37.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: could you install a cronjob that checks every hour for either you or me logged in via ssh, and does a shutdown -r "now + 300s" if neither of us is? |
| 14:38.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | this way we would recover from complete lockup of IF after some 2 hours the latest |
| 14:39.04 | kerio | a dead man's switch? neat |
| 14:40.02 | warfare | DocScrutinizer05: the cron daemon on endian is strange (to be freindly} |
| 14:40.29 | cehteh | DocScrutinizer05: there is the watchdogd which i used to ping a servers router and if not reset the server, could that work for you too? |
| 14:41.00 | warfare | cehteh: I'll have a look into that. |
| 14:41.35 | cehteh | the watchdogd can do a lot more and with hardware or kernel-software watchdog its really hard to lock a system up |
| 14:42.06 | cehteh | (but at worst you can go into a reboot loop when you configure something wrong and cant fix that in time, be careful :)) |
| 14:42.41 | warfare | I know that from my wrap board ;) |
| 14:42.51 | cehteh | good :) |
| 14:44.28 | ShadowX | warfare, i was just joking around :P i'm bored xD |
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| 14:45.23 | warfare | ShadowX: me too ;) At least the wireless seems to work for longer than 5 minutes. |
| 14:45.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | warfare: if crond is borked, use a while sleep 3600; do...; done |
| 14:46.06 | ShadowX | hate wireless :P all those bits speeding around my head all the time :P |
| 14:46.35 | ShadowX | anyway it seems the fw will make more trouble then help ...(if you'll need to reboot it every 2h when there's no one around in him) ....why not just remove it? |
| 14:47.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | because that's not our call |
| 14:47.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's still Nemein's sandbox |
| 14:47.40 | ShadowX | Hah. :) good reason |
| 14:48.08 | ShadowX | btw flushing and reloading the rules dosnt help? |
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| 14:52.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowX: nfc, I'm a noob on that fw stuff, I have an idea about the theory at best |
| 14:53.11 | ShadowX | kernel version? |
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| 14:55.04 | ShadowX | Can you pastebin - dmesg (when it starts making problems) and iptables --list-rules ? |
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| 15:01.33 | Skry | seen perioidical flushing and reloading of rules "solve" quite a few mysterious fw probs before, mostly with 2.6.x kernels |
| 15:02.11 | ShadowX | mmm.... i think only one of them can be counted as 'mysterius' |
| 15:02.25 | ShadowX | and it was fixed ....somewhere around 2.6.32 (i may be wrong about the version) |
| 15:02.45 | Skry | well, generally speaking, probably not uptodate what's happening |
| 15:02.47 | ShadowX | some tables was growing till fail :] |
| 15:03.24 | Skry | yeah, vaque memory of something like that |
| 15:03.47 | Skry | thank something have not had to touch that stuff in years :) |
| 15:03.58 | ShadowX | Skry, no no my point was that every other problem (except ^) was pretty much not so mysterius ...it takes some time to find out why it happens the first time you see it , but iptables is a good boy and tells most of the stuff in the logs |
| 15:04.26 | ShadowX | iptables - good puppy :D |
| 15:05.07 | Skry | infinite snacks to iptables! |
| 15:05.20 | ShadowX | :P |
| 15:06.28 | ShadowX | that said, iptables+l7 filtering sucks.( |
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| 15:33.48 | n900-dk | Do you have monitoring for connection table? |
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| 15:37.45 | warfare | n900-dk: Yes. Someone upped tcp buffers to 16M, that could also have been an issue. |
| 15:39.06 | n900-dk | so the 16M limit is reached after some time? |
| 15:41.29 | warfare | No, every tcp connection to (not through) the firewall, takes up 16M of memory. Pair that with an ajaxy webfrontend and onlx 1G of memory -> boom. |
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| 15:43.22 | n900-dk | whoops - Is it possible to limit the number of connections per. source IP? |
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| 15:45.45 | ShadowX | y, but with some limitations. |
| 15:48.09 | n900-dk | guess all this limiting was already given a shot.. |
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| 16:17.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Mem: 1030464k total, 346032k used, 684432k free, 96988k buffers |
| 16:18.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | been at 824444k free 6h ago |
| 16:18.38 | freemangordon | qwazix: OMG, latest embedLite plays http://learningwebgl.com/lessons/lesson05/index.html with GL acceleration, at ~ 11 fps. Without my optimisations, lets see how it will be with them :) |
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| 16:18.44 | kerio | free ram is wasted ram, though |
| 16:18.47 | kerio | maybe it's buffers? |
| 16:19.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: this is a FIREWALL |
| 16:19.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf should it buffer? |
| 16:20.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | any questions? |
| 16:25.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | somebody, dunno was it xes, khm, or wirr, mentioned full virtualization vs paravirtualization, and possible incompatibilities between the VMs NIC kernel driver and the hosts XEN NIC emulation |
| 16:26.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk, bbl |
| 16:26.54 | n900-dk | but isn't there a configured limit for total number of connections in the endian fw? Or is it only limited by ram? |
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| 16:40.23 | Ex-Opesa | I have tried google but couldn't find the solution |
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| 17:03.25 | romaxa | freemangordon: ping |
| 17:03.33 | freemangordon | romaxa: pong |
| 17:04.26 | romaxa | freemangordon: I guess clipping still required, because for example if you add this code http://doc.qt.digia.com/4.7/qpainter.html#beginNativePainting, as in example, then it will over-paint toolbar... |
| 17:05.02 | romaxa | freemangordon: also glClear need to be calculated properly in order to not overpaint toolbar context |
| 17:05.33 | freemangordon | romaxa: I guess we can fix it by setting the correct rectangle to be composited on, now it always starts at 0,0 |
| 17:06.03 | freemangordon | re glClear - yes, I think to enable GL_SCISSOR_TEST before glClear |
| 17:07.37 | freemangordon | romaxa: BTW I found why QGLContext::currentContext() is NULL |
| 17:08.00 | freemangordon | on fremantle you need to show() the widget for it to be created |
| 17:08.17 | freemangordon | I guess it is the same on desktop, though I can;t test it |
| 17:10.31 | romaxa | freemangordon: ah ok... on desktop we don't do GL rendering because GLX provider does not know how to render into existing context |
| 17:10.53 | freemangordon | romaxa: I was thinking to move if (QGLContext::currentContext()) {d->mContext->GetApp()->SetIsAccelerated(true); } from constructor to event(QEvent* event) and do the check in case QEvent::Show: |
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| 17:11.04 | freemangordon | romaxa: any objections? |
| 17:11.33 | romaxa | freemangordon: no objections |
| 17:12.38 | freemangordon | romaxa: ok, will push to https://github.com/tmeshkova/mozilla-central directly, as I need that fixed in order to be able to make further pull requests |
| 17:13.18 | romaxa | freemangordon: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2097612 - I tried this code, it works on portrait mode but not on landscape :)... need to do some debugging, if you can make function which render background color there would be nice |
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| 17:14.18 | romaxa | freemangordon: you can push gsreamer changes |
| 17:14.48 | freemangordon | romaxa: exactly the code I was thining of :D. however, I guess you need to swap width/heigth (and maybe x/y) |
| 17:15.06 | freemangordon | romaxa: I did a pull request, you mean to merge it? |
| 17:15.21 | freemangordon | (for gstreamer) |
| 17:16.08 | romaxa | freemangordon: I was hoping that QTransform mapping from painter would do that |
| 17:16.45 | romaxa | freemangordon: but I guess I need to take original not transformed view rectangle apply transform and do some magic |
| 17:17.28 | freemangordon | yep |
| 17:18.14 | romaxa | freemangordon: need to go at work, btw, I guess it would make sense keep most of discussions on #embedlite channel regarding embedlite (irc.mozilla.org) |
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| 17:18.36 | freemangordon | romaxa: aah, ok, I was not aware of that channel, will join |
| 17:18.48 | freemangordon | is it on freenode? |
| 17:18.57 | freemangordon | scratch that :) |
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| 19:39.55 | eccerr0r | since repository.maemo.org is down, what's the easiest way to root my n900? |
| 19:41.07 | Skry | ~mirror |
| 19:41.07 | infobot | hmm... mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
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| 19:43.38 | eccerr0r | I tried those mirrors and got the "Ignoring wrong version" problem... I saw a post to remove /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/domain.* but that needs root... |
| 19:48.56 | kerio | eccerr0r: why do you need root? |
| 19:52.00 | kerio | eccerr0r: the best way would be to install openssh from extras |
| 19:52.11 | kerio | that'll prompt for a root password |
| 19:52.13 | kerio | then ssh localhost |
| 19:52.17 | kerio | then configure sudo as you wish |
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| 19:54.56 | eccerr0r | I can't seem to sync the mirrors because of apparently invalid data in /var/lib/hildon-application/manager... |
| 19:56.11 | eccerr0r | since I can't sync... can't install openssh (which was the intent :) |
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| 20:03.29 | wirr | ~mirrors |
| 20:03.29 | infobot | methinks mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 20:06.55 | wirr | any mirror for http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php? skeiron repos don't seem to have flasher-3.5 :-( |
| 20:06.58 | wirr | ? |
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| 20:08.34 | kerio | wirr: dammit, there was one |
| 20:08.52 | kerio | eccerr0r: what repos do you have enabled right now? |
| 20:10.04 | eccerr0r | tried skeiron free and maemo-archive.wedrop.it free |
| 20:10.11 | kerio | ...for what? |
| 20:10.18 | eccerr0r | fremantle ? |
| 20:10.19 | kerio | list *all the repos* that you have enabled right now |
| 20:10.54 | eccerr0r | this is the issue I'm seeing: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65687 |
| 20:12.35 | kerio | eccerr0r: i am aware of the issue |
| 20:12.40 | kerio | that's why i asked WHICH REPOS YOU HAVE ENABLED RIGHT NOW |
| 20:12.56 | eccerr0r | I'm new to this so I don't understand what you're asking for... |
| 20:13.10 | kerio | "skeiron" can mean at least 20 different repos |
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| 20:13.50 | eccerr0r | http://skeiron.org/repo/repository.maemo.org/community ? |
| 20:14.27 | kerio | yes |
| 20:14.29 | kerio | that would be one repo |
| 20:14.46 | kerio | do you have cssu installed right now? |
| 20:15.12 | eccerr0r | No. This is a fresh machine, has never been synced before |
| 20:15.21 | kerio | then disable that repo *right now* |
| 20:15.47 | kerio | you probably meant http://skeiron.org/repo/repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free non-free |
| 20:16.16 | eccerr0r | ahh okay. |
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| 20:17.00 | kerio | anyway, deleting the domain information won't help with the *new* domain info that ham creates whenever you install or upgrade something |
| 20:17.23 | kerio | to permanently nullify that, enable HAM's redpill mode and disable "ignore packages with wrong domain" |
| 20:19.34 | brkn | @wirr: skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ |
| 20:20.04 | eccerr0r | cool, that looks better now. I haven't really used debian-line linuxes at all, really need to look into this some more. |
| 20:20.35 | brkn | i guess this is what you are looking for: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo-dev-env-downloads/ |
| 20:21.07 | kerio | if you know your way around linux, i strongly advise against not using HAM except for the system upgrades (and even then...) and only use apt-get, it's much faster |
| 20:21.16 | kerio | if you know your way around linux and are prepared, that is |
| 20:21.23 | kerio | being prepared = having a backup |
| 20:21.28 | kerio | so install backupmenu! |
| 20:21.31 | kerio | it's good! |
| 20:21.48 | wirr | brkn: thanks, but unfortunately not: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/d3/ only up to v3.0 |
| 20:22.05 | kerio | wirr: D: |
| 20:22.13 | wirr | brkn, oh, sorry, didn't see the second link your posted |
| 20:22.16 | wirr | perfect! |
| 20:22.18 | kerio | well, isn't 3.5 the one for the n900? |
| 20:22.21 | kerio | oh |
| 20:23.10 | brkn | wirr: basically everything should be there |
| 20:23.11 | kerio | eccerr0r: disclaimer - by entering redpill mode, you swear to not complain when ALL YO SHIT A SPLODE or perhaps something minor stops working until you fudge with it a bit |
| 20:23.23 | brkn | structure is 1:1 what has been on tablets-dev.nokia.com |
| 20:23.35 | wirr | brkn: yep seems complete |
| 20:23.40 | eccerr0r | heh. thanks for the warning. |
| 20:23.42 | brkn | oh and check md5 if you don't trust the files |
| 20:23.48 | kerio | eccerr0r: but seriously, make backups |
| 20:23.49 | wirr | don't know why i ran into a dead link at first |
| 20:23.54 | wirr | but hey, it's computers |
| 20:23.57 | wirr | ;-) |
| 20:24.10 | wirr | or me |
| 20:24.15 | kerio | eccerr0r: install "backupmenu" |
| 20:24.41 | eccerr0r | yeah, there's tons of stuff I need to install :D |
| 20:24.58 | wirr | anyone, do you disable extras-testing and extras-devel when running on cssu-thumb? |
| 20:25.05 | kerio | wirr: of course not |
| 20:25.20 | kerio | well, i disable extras-testing |
| 20:25.29 | kerio | because extras-devel is a superset, and it would be a waste of resources |
| 20:26.05 | wirr | kerio, makes sense |
| 20:27.23 | wirr | was just wondering if older, but thumb-compiled releases from cssu-thumb could get upgraded to newer non-thumb binaries from extras-devel |
| 20:27.44 | wirr | or do you use apt-pinning to prevent that? |
| 20:28.03 | kerio | wirr: the only candidate for that would be busybox-power |
| 20:28.23 | kerio | or fennec, if someone decided to update the fennec in extras-devel |
| 20:28.42 | eccerr0r | hmm... need to find a microsd card... |
| 20:28.47 | kerio | some of the other packages are in "competition" with cssu-testing though, considering cssu-thumb's status as an addon |
| 20:29.15 | kerio | so between cssu-testing's update and cssu-thumb's update there's a window of time in which you'd upgrade to a non-thumb package from a thumb package |
| 20:29.29 | kerio | unless you've disabled the HAM domain check, HAM won't let you do that |
| 20:29.37 | wirr | i don't use ham |
| 20:29.40 | kerio | and i pin cssu-thumb at 600 priority via /etc/apt/preferences |
| 20:30.09 | wirr | yep, sounds like the only sane way of having all those repos enabled at the same time |
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| 20:30.16 | chem|st | fsckers Repo notice on TMO is now PERSISTANT! |
| 20:30.45 | kerio | wirr: "Package: *" "Pin: release a=community-thumb" "Pin-Priority: 600" in three consecutive lines |
| 20:32.34 | kerio | wirr: also, might want to update, set the priority to 1600 and see what you're prompted to downgrade by apt-get upgrade |
| 20:32.47 | kerio | (over 1000, and apt-get will actively try to downgrade) |
| 20:33.10 | kerio | (so don't keep it at 1600, just do a check to see if something should be downgraded and why) |
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| 20:35.08 | wirr | that's a good hint.. let me check that |
| 20:37.50 | kerio | eccerr0r: backupmenu lets you backup on the internal vfat partition |
| 20:38.14 | wirr | kerio, for extras-devel I have to use "l=extras-devel" instead of "a=extras-devel", right? |
| 20:38.26 | kerio | wirr: why do you want to pin extras-devel? :o |
| 20:39.13 | wirr | on my debian box i usually explicitly list all suites... extras-devel would get a lower prio, of course |
| 20:39.29 | kerio | wirr: Suite: is still a= |
| 20:39.36 | kerio | btw, use extras-devel-light :) |
| 20:39.54 | kerio | http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/ fremantle free non-free |
| 20:39.55 | wirr | yep, but for Extras-devel: Suite is fremantle... "devel" is just in the label |
| 20:39.58 | kerio | it supports pdiffs |
| 20:40.05 | kerio | wirr: then it's l= i suppose |
| 20:40.25 | kerio | i'm using merlin's extras-devel, and it's Suite: Extras-devel-light |
| 20:40.40 | kerio | but really, why? i'd keep extras-devel as the default |
| 20:40.45 | kerio | and increase cssu/nokia ssu maybe |
| 20:40.49 | wirr | actually, that's what I'm using :-) |
| 20:40.58 | wirr | nokia ssu? you really expect updates from there? |
| 20:41.10 | kerio | you're the one worried about packages overwriting each other |
| 20:41.18 | kerio | certainly it should be at a higher priority than extras |
| 20:41.44 | wirr | alright, alright, i agree :-) |
| 20:42.12 | kerio | i just upgrade everything from extras-devel, cssu-devel, cssu-thumb and cssu-testing |
| 20:42.45 | kerio | it's not a bleeding edge, it's not even grown yet |
| 20:43.36 | wirr | :) but... usable? |
| 20:43.50 | kerio | it's not for the faint at heart |
| 20:43.54 | kerio | but meh |
| 20:44.36 | wirr | i've been realising that i spend more time on tweaking flashing tinkering that device than actually _using_ it... |
| 20:44.51 | kerio | what do you mean by "using" it? |
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| 20:45.22 | kerio | tinkering is certainly using |
| 20:45.55 | kerio | wirr: right now, cssu-devel would make me downgrade 38 packages, and only upgrade 5 |
| 20:47.33 | wirr | kerio, using as in writing emails, surfing the web, maybe even make a phone call |
| 20:47.43 | kerio | phone calls? the n900 can do that? :O |
| 20:47.55 | kerio | you discover something new every day! |
| 20:47.55 | wirr | :-) actually I don't have a sim |
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| 20:58.14 | wirr | kerio, actually you're right: no downgrades proposed even with cssu-thumb at 1600 - not even busybox-power |
| 20:58.27 | kerio | yeah, the latest version is thumbified |
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| 21:54.16 | FIQ | where should I report OS issues which doesn't stem from cssu? |
| 21:55.05 | FIQ | it's kind of minor |
| 21:55.11 | kerio | what is it? |
| 21:56.11 | FIQ | if you send a SMS and the phone lacks sms central settings, it does (at least in swedish locale) print out something like: Error sending text message: Central number not found (Yes/No) |
| 21:56.24 | FIQ | without really asking a question |
| 21:56.43 | FIQ | yes lets me edit the settings, but the msg looks a bit weird |
| 21:56.50 | kerio | hm |
| 21:57.10 | kerio | a bug report against rtcom-messaging-l10n-sese maybe |
| 21:57.18 | kerio | or something |
| 21:57.31 | FIQ | (the message was translated so it might not be word by word what it says but I guess all localizations have this issue) |
| 21:57.36 | kerio | no, svse |
| 21:57.46 | FIQ | hmmmmmm o |
| 21:57.47 | FIQ | k |
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| 23:19.22 | wirr | check it out: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup. contribute, fix, extend, link, whatever - have fun with it |
| 23:19.51 | wirr | ah, and if someone's willing to proofread and test would be nice |
| 23:23.21 | sixwheeledbeast | wirr: not suppose to use profiles like "ideal" in KP anymore |
| 23:25.01 | sixwheeledbeast | and links for swap tweaks go to 720p page |
| 23:29.37 | wirr | sixwheeledbeast, swap links fixed, thanks |
| 23:29.38 | Lava_Croft | dont think that list of essential software packages should be there too |
| 23:29.45 | Lava_Croft | since its just a personal preference |
| 23:30.05 | wirr | sixwheeledbeast, what's the recommended way of replacing profiles like "ideal" and such? |
| 23:30.10 | Lava_Croft | and stuff like backupmenu is so much more important than say, fmboost |
| 23:30.11 | sixwheeledbeast | TBH I think a lots is personal |
| 23:30.17 | Lava_Croft | that its a bit weird to havfe it in the same section |
| 23:30.24 | wirr | Lava_Croft, agreed |
| 23:30.32 | Lava_Croft | split it up in essential and recommended |
| 23:30.32 | wirr | should definitely split it up |
| 23:30.36 | Lava_Croft | :) |
| 23:30.46 | sixwheeledbeast | many have done this before but put them in there user area of the wiki. |
| 23:30.54 | Lava_Croft | as a bonus, you get not ONE but TWO things you can not agree upon! |
| 23:31.48 | sixwheeledbeast | wirr: smartreflex does it automatically upto 805Mhz IIRC if you have KP50> |
| 23:32.32 | Lava_Croft | i mean, ttf-nokiapure |
| 23:32.35 | Lava_Croft | why is that even in that list |
| 23:32.58 | wirr | basically you find anything on wiki and tmo. i would like to collect best practice to allow anyone to have on optimal setup, starting from ground up. this is why i included some personal recommendations as well. i'd prefer if we could have a vote or something what packages are considered 'recommended' |
| 23:32.59 | Lava_Croft | and swappolube? |
| 23:33.16 | wirr | ttf-nokiapure: i'll throw it out |
| 23:33.42 | wirr | swappolube i put it in because of some sd card related tweaks i'll add later |
| 23:33.46 | Lava_Croft | and i think if DocScrutinizer05 sees you recommend busybox-power... |
| 23:33.49 | Lava_Croft | he will go mental |
| 23:34.03 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
| 23:34.23 | wirr | busybox-power is basically a requirement for the encryption setup |
| 23:34.36 | Lava_Croft | and maybe i missed something, but where is there two flashlight related apps in the list? |
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| 23:34.43 | Lava_Croft | where/why |
| 23:35.05 | Lava_Croft | and while we are on the subject of apps that are recommended |
| 23:35.10 | Lava_Croft | where is fcam, hdr and lowlight |
| 23:35.13 | Lava_Croft | camera-lens-launcher |
| 23:35.37 | Lava_Croft | ill quit, or else we are discussing this for hours to come:D |
| 23:35.43 | Lava_Croft | at least its a good thing you are doing |
| 23:35.48 | Lava_Croft | might save people a lot of time |
| 23:38.05 | sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't use fcam, hdr or lowlight |
| 23:38.19 | Skry | +1 for camera-lens-launcher |
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| 23:41.07 | wirr | ok guys, I got your point - I'll clean up the app recommendations. still I'd think we should have some recommended base packages we can more or less agree on |
| 23:41.32 | wirr | Skry, Lava_Croft cl-launcher segfaults on cssu-thumb (at least on my phone) |
| 23:41.42 | wirr | that's why there is flashlight-extras-gtk |
| 23:41.42 | Lava_Croft | not on mine |
| 23:41.50 | Skry | not on mine neither |
| 23:41.51 | Lava_Croft | works flawlessly here, always has |
| 23:41.56 | Skry | yup |
| 23:41.59 | wirr | good to hear |
| 23:42.13 | wirr | nevertheless, any known issues with cl-launcher? |
| 23:42.24 | Lava_Croft | or, in the spirit of a true case of linux troubleshooting: |
| 23:42.27 | Lava_Croft | W F M! :) |
| 23:43.12 | Skry | wirr: how about just making a categorized list of generally recommended apps |
| 23:43.40 | wirr | sounds good to me. you're willing to start it? |
| 23:44.10 | Skry | well, if you don't want to then why not |
| 23:44.17 | wirr | sixwheeledbeast, I have no experience with smartreflex, could you rewrite the section about kernel-power-settings, please? |
| 23:45.00 | wirr | Skry, just to get that list started - as i've been working on this for the last four hours I start to get tired ;-) |
| 23:45.22 | sixwheeledbeast | wirr: install KP50> without KPS job done. No tweaking profiles anymore. |
| 23:46.13 | wirr | sixwheeledbeast, srsly? no kps and I get overclocking and undervolting _by default_?! |
| 23:46.47 | wirr | so that's with cssu-thumb as well i suppose, as it's based on kp51r1 |
| 23:47.20 | sixwheeledbeast | wirr: KPS if you need to over/underclock, but no tweaking voltages manually just clock speed. |
| 23:47.27 | sixwheeledbeast | on the smartreflex wiki |
| 23:48.02 | sixwheeledbeast | i wouldn't recommend a overclock to *all* anyway. |
| 23:48.58 | Skry | yeah, I wouldn't recommend overclocking to anyone. |
| 23:49.49 | Skry | wirr: I can write up something, not now though, heading to bed, ravaged by flu |
| 23:50.31 | Skry | so, gn everyone |
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| 23:55.46 | wirr | sixwheeledbeast, overclock: meh, undervolting: yipee! |
| 23:56.02 | wirr | Skry, thanks - no hurry... gn |
| 23:56.34 | wirr | sixwheeledbeast, but again, that's my personal preference |
| 23:56.42 | wirr | I'll include both options I think |
| 23:57.13 | sixwheeledbeast | wirr: no need to undervolt is the point, fmg didn't get VDD1/2 smartreflex working for nothing. |
| 23:58.32 | wirr | yep, I read some of his experience on tmo. if it's more efficient than undervolting then even the merrier! |
| 23:58.58 | sixwheeledbeast | that's the thing with maemo not one device is the same, there is no perfect setup. |
| 23:59.15 | wirr | not the same as in different hardware revisions? |
| 23:59.23 | wirr | or crappy qa? |
| 23:59.32 | sixwheeledbeast | I do like the idea of the wiki tho some tweaks are done by most |
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| 23:59.58 | wirr | that's what i thought |