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| 06:14.32 | iluminator105 | can someone help me write a script to enable n900 camera to record, because it only record for one hour and stops |
| 06:14.33 | n3mu5846984 | n3mu5 BotNet Version 1.0 |
| 06:14.33 | n3mu5846984 | Use the commands: |
| 06:14.33 | n3mu5846984 | bot-op |
| 06:14.34 | n3mu5846984 | bot-deop |
| 06:14.34 | n3mu5846984 | bot-quit |
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| 06:14.34 | n3mu5846984 | ddos-udp {Parameters} |
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| 06:19.46 | iluminator105 | or is there app that allows camera to record video |
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| 06:31.25 | kerio | ...wtf was that? |
| 06:32.14 | iluminator105 | for more than one hour |
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| 06:34.17 | iluminator105 | like a motion sensor camera |
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| 07:56.10 | freemangordon | romaxa: in QGraphicsMozView::paint, there is some matrix math. Is it really needed in case of SW rendering? Another issue - it seems a full viewport is rendered on every frame. Can't we do partial updates? Also the whole viewport is filled with background color before rendering. The same question - why not partial fill? |
| 07:56.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | moaning |
| 07:56.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's borked and fuxored today? |
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| 07:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | (in addition to my auxiliary laptop) |
| 07:57.42 | freemangordon | romaxa: also - is it good idea to disable double-buffer on fremantle? is it possible at all? as I can't go over 15 fps with GL rendering no matter what I do |
| 07:57.52 | freemangordon | SW |
| 07:58.03 | freemangordon | rendering is well over 40 fps |
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| 08:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: good question |
| 08:06.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: n3mu5846984 ~Neono 202.149.83.86 * * , is online via sendak.freenode.net (Mon Jan 28 06:15:33 2013). |
| 08:10.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.google.de/search?q=n3mu5+BotNet |
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| 08:11.57 | *** mode/#maemo [+b n3mu5*!*@*] by DocScrutinizer05 |
| 08:11.57 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: logs show that bot has been around since around 06/01/13 |
| 08:12.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 08:12.19 | *** mode/#maemo [-o DocScrutinizer05] by ChanServ |
| 08:13.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: if you like to do me a favour, could you geo-traceroute the IPs it used to log in? |
| 08:15.27 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: the logs don't have the IP but your given IP shows indonesia as the host |
| 08:16.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | 6 Jan 2013 ... 11:22.29, *** join/#maemo n3mu5 (~user@114.79.17.86) |
| 08:16.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:17.40 | thedead1440 | yup Indonesia it is |
| 08:18.13 | thedead1440 | those ips can trace back to 202.70.56.53 |
| 08:18.38 | thedead1440 | data centre: http://www.moratelindo.co.id/corporate/ |
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| 08:19.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.dl4hacks.net/user-8917.html |
| 08:20.32 | thedead1440 | not much info there |
| 08:21.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | but quite on topic |
| 08:21.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet there you find the pristine form of n3mu5 "botnet" |
| 08:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably with step by step instruction how to rename the bot |
| 08:22.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the idiots |
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| 08:25.24 | thedead1440 | haven't found it yet though |
| 08:28.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | [prliminary general notice] warfare approved by HiFo board for maemo community's first and master official sysop |
| 08:28.50 | thedead1440 | that's good news at last :D |
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| 08:34.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: welcome aboard, and many thanks for your help already given and yet to come! :-) |
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| 08:37.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | [organizational notice] on any infra hickups, the SOP is (in sequence): ping me on IRC, ping warfare on IRC, wait for answer, send mail to me CC council CC warfare (I'll elaborate on the latter point eventually on wiki etc) |
| 08:40.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | exception to above rule: if you already have established a direct communication with either of the aforementioned and/or any of our senior admins Ferenc, Niels, Eero |
| 08:41.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | in this case you of course continue on that conversation thread, but add me, council, warfare to the CC |
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| 08:42.07 | vi____ | who is warfare? |
| 08:42.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi____: see last Firday's council meeting chanlog, he introduced himself there |
| 08:42.41 | vi____ | ... |
| 08:42.43 | vi____ | link? |
| 08:42.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 08:43.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi____: in /topic of #maemo-meeting ? |
| 08:44.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | or /whois warfare |
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| 08:45.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | or google for Falk Stern xing |
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| 08:50.29 | vi____ | freemangordon: what are you cooking up now? |
| 08:50.57 | freemangordon | mozilla qml UI |
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| 08:55.45 | freemangordon | romaxa: there is something totally wrong , embedLite does SW rendering even with GLWidget, for some reason QGLContext::currentContext() is NULL in QGraphicsMozView::QGraphicsMozView, so SetIsAccelerated(true) is never called. If force-called (SetIsAccelerated(true)) then http://romaxa.info/css3d/cube3d/cube_fast.html renders the cube with ~ 25 fps :D |
| 08:56.26 | Estel_ | kerio, DocScrutinizer05, obviously i don't use bq27x00 together with i2c calls |
| 08:56.42 | Estel_ | I was using only charger module, not bq27x00 |
| 08:57.11 | Estel_ | still, when charging from almost empty battery (3.2 or below) I have clear 1350 mA charging, for first 20 minutes or so |
| 08:57.14 | Estel_ | no idea wtf? |
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| 08:57.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Estel_: oops, maybe I got that wrong, thought pali's charger stuff depends on bq27x00 |
| 08:57.39 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer05, I don't use his bme replacement yet, just module from kp:P |
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| 08:58.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, got that |
| 08:58.13 | Estel_ | his bme replacement is great, but until battery applet gets upgraded, it depends on rx51 data, i.e. "design capacity" which is all wrong |
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| 08:58.51 | Estel_ | so I did small sh scripts that sets module parameters via sysfs entries to 1250 current and 100 mA termination current |
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| 08:59.27 | Estel_ | no freaking idea why it doesnt obey charging limits by chip, though |
| 08:59.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | are you sure your 1350mA figure been for charge and not DIScharge? |
| 08:59.58 | Estel_ | WizardNumberNext, you know that bells ring somewhere, but you don't know in which church exactly |
| 08:59.59 | Estel_ | yea |
| 09:00.02 | Estel_ | absolutely sure |
| 09:00.08 | Estel_ | never seen anything like that |
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| 09:00.25 | Estel_ | it started with motherboard change *and*upgrade to KP52 |
| 09:00.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | then that's obviously a bug somewhere, since bq25150 can't do 1350mA |
| 09:00.40 | Estel_ | can't separate which one is responsible |
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| 09:01.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | was the reading sustainable or unary event? |
| 09:02.00 | Estel_ | elaborate pls? |
| 09:02.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got that value for a higher number of readout periods, or only once? |
| 09:02.34 | Estel_ | <Estel_> still, when charging from almost empty battery (3.2 or below) I have clear 1350 mA charging, for first 20 minutes or so |
| 09:02.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 09:02.49 | Estel_ | reproducible and constant |
| 09:02.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | bug in bq27x00.ko |
| 09:02.59 | Estel_ | tried for 3 charging cycles already |
| 09:02.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr |
| 09:03.04 | Estel_ | probably |
| 09:03.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | in script? |
| 09:03.11 | Estel_ | or not |
| 09:03.16 | Estel_ | well, script havent changed |
| 09:03.18 | Estel_ | at all |
| 09:03.23 | Estel_ | since more than a year |
| 09:03.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 09:03.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | extremely weird |
| 09:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just could figure offset decalibration of bq27200 chip |
| 09:04.04 | Estel_ | hm, kp can't have anything to do with i2c readings, yep? |
| 09:04.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | or that friggin thing can actually charge with 1300+mA |
| 09:04.31 | Estel_ | but you know, discharge values are actually perfectly OK |
| 09:04.50 | Estel_ | even on low marging measurements, like off-line mode and ~4mA discharge |
| 09:05.36 | Estel_ | well, when got some free time (which may mean never in upcoming months...) I'll downgrade back to kp51r1 and compare |
| 09:05.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no better explanation than: bq24150 *can* charge very flat low-Voltage batteries with more that 1.3A |
| 09:06.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200 readings are very close to bare metal and supposed to be accurate for current and voltage |
| 09:06.49 | Estel_ | same here... Strange things is that, though, previously (on another device and last kp) it never did more than 1250 |
| 09:07.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and both bq27* scripts (using i2c-tools) are well proven and supposed to usually work |
| 09:08.05 | warfare | hi everyone. Mail address: falk@fourecks.de |
| 09:08.40 | Estel_ | WizardNumberNext, you know that bells ring somewhere, but you don't know in which church |
| 09:09.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | morning warfare :-)) |
| 09:09.08 | Estel_ | keeping lions in freezer for charge you may get better results for relative capacity stored during charging process... |
| 09:09.32 | Estel_ | But it have nothing to do with relative capacity of discharge, especially, that battery have plenty of time to go into room temperature |
| 09:09.45 | Estel_ | in fact, you're just loosing efficiency during charge process |
| 09:10.08 | Estel_ | also, I wouldn't say that constant temperature changes - every charging cycle into freezer once - is ok for battery health |
| 09:10.29 | Estel_ | so, in long run, you're shortening it's lifetime |
| 09:11.47 | Estel_ | as for max capacity feasible on N900, it's a little more than 3Ah currently, and mugen cover is easily moddable to have fully working camera lens cover |
| 09:12.03 | Estel_ | with detection of lens opened etc |
| 09:12.19 | Estel_ | s/lens/cover |
| 09:12.26 | Estel_ | s/lens/cover/ |
| 09:12.36 | Estel_ | ~botsnack |
| 09:12.36 | infobot | Estel_: thanks |
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| 09:14.13 | Estel_ | WizardNumberNext, until that, you must wait 'till I pack 2x 18650 into replacement body :P |
| 09:14.42 | Estel_ | as for music files, are you saving music for dogs, or people? |
| 09:15.05 | Estel_ | If the latter, more than 48 is useless, as it's more than 20 ksz anyway |
| 09:15.43 | Estel_ | s/ksz/khz/ |
| 09:16.02 | Estel_ | in fact, even 44.1 is videotape legacy |
| 09:16.40 | Estel_ | no one, in blind tests, was able to detect difference between tracks mixed with lowpass=20khz and ones with 40khz |
| 09:17.55 | Estel_ | see hydrogenaudio discussions for more myths busted |
| 09:18.40 | Estel_ | all after all, unless you're preserving music database for contacts with alien civilizations capable of hearing higher frequencies, 96 khz is pure waste of space |
| 09:18.52 | Estel_ | see ya later |
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| 10:56.51 | GNUtoo | hi, what's the way to restore an n900 to factory image? |
| 10:57.33 | GNUtoo | because the issue is that I've been trying since days to get the images but the http://tablets-dev.nokia.com is unavailable (I guess on purpose) |
| 10:58.39 | GNUtoo | DocScrutinizer05, hi |
| 10:58.57 | GNUtoo | ah sorry maybe it's DocScrutinizer51 |
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| 10:59.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | both |
| 10:59.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 10:59.25 | cehteh | GNUtoo: patience |
| 10:59.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~mirrors |
| 10:59.35 | infobot | somebody said mirror was http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 10:59.38 | cehteh | infrastructure will be back someday soon :) |
| 10:59.44 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 10:59.47 | cehteh | (yes or use the mirrors) |
| 10:59.47 | GNUtoo | thanks let me see |
| 11:00.04 | cehteh | no need to reset/reflash your device |
| 11:01.15 | GNUtoo | ah? |
| 11:01.22 | GNUtoo | I've an uboot on it |
| 11:01.36 | GNUtoo | and it's not combined |
| 11:01.55 | GNUtoo | and I don't see the images to reflash |
| 11:02.01 | GNUtoo | for reflashing I can use 0xFFFF |
| 11:02.07 | GNUtoo | so I don't need flasher |
| 11:03.18 | GNUtoo | so what should I do? |
| 11:03.26 | GNUtoo | chroot in my instell and reflash the kernel |
| 11:03.34 | GNUtoo | or should I unpack a kernel? |
| 11:03.36 | GNUtoo | and flash it |
| 11:03.43 | GNUtoo | like ar x kernel.deb |
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| 11:06.56 | GNUtoo | cehteh, ^^^ |
| 11:07.54 | cehteh | ... bbl |
| 11:08.04 | futpib | do you need kernel or rootfs instead? |
| 11:08.12 | GNUtoo | at least kernel |
| 11:08.18 | GNUtoo | but I'd like to restore everything |
| 11:08.26 | GNUtoo | and then do a CSSU update |
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| 11:16.34 | xes | humm.. today my n900 had a bad wake up, i found in syslog some error like: certman_main.cpp(873): ERROR '/etc/certs/common-ca/f3a27298eeb81b82801c4db69a3027990a2f72e2.pem' fails verification any idea? |
| 11:18.56 | GNUtoo | ok let's see if that boots |
| 11:21.58 | fasta | Why do people complain when a bug is reported that there is no complete information when it is a problem they could have prevented in the first place by doing proper (automated) testing? |
| 11:22.30 | fasta | People seem to like to blame other people for their own lazyness. |
| 11:22.33 | SpeedEvil | because the bug may not exist for them in different circumstances |
| 11:23.05 | SpeedEvil | complete bug reports are always a good idea. |
| 11:23.09 | fasta | SpeedEvil: you mean platform issues? |
| 11:23.34 | fasta | I have never had code that worked differently on two different computers. |
| 11:23.38 | SpeedEvil | for example, something on your phone causes it not to work |
| 11:23.41 | SpeedEvil | hahahhahaahhhhahha |
| 11:23.53 | SpeedEvil | lucky you. |
| 11:24.14 | fasta | SpeedEvil: I write against a standard or in a higher-level language where this is also not possible. |
| 11:24.17 | SpeedEvil | the raw code, perhaps not. |
| 11:24.23 | fasta | SpeedEvil: actually I am lying. I found a few gcc bugs. |
| 11:24.48 | SpeedEvil | interactions with library versions, or different system software, or ... |
| 11:24.50 | fasta | But even in that case it only didn't work because gcc was wrong, not because I was wrong. |
| 11:25.25 | fasta | SpeedEvil: no, that never happens for me, probably because I check all the dependencies. |
| 11:25.39 | SpeedEvil | no, you don't. |
| 11:25.48 | fasta | SpeedEvil: I have tools which do that. |
| 11:26.08 | SpeedEvil | you test some subset which can be easily tested |
| 11:27.02 | fasta | I also think that beyond 100 developers it would probably be a smart idea to develop in some language in which you don't need tests anymore. |
| 11:27.17 | fasta | That way you can eliminate QA or 'code reviews'. |
| 11:27.23 | SpeedEvil | you can't. |
| 11:27.34 | fasta | Why not? Because I can. |
| 11:27.38 | SpeedEvil | unless you're the only code running on your platform. |
| 11:27.52 | fasta | SpeedEvil: what? |
| 11:28.06 | SpeedEvil | for example, a buggy flashlight program stopped a camera program working |
| 11:28.32 | SpeedEvil | there was no bug in the camera program |
| 11:28.37 | fasta | SpeedEvil: a modern OS has process isolation. |
| 11:29.23 | SpeedEvil | not when it comes to shared resources |
| 11:30.41 | SpeedEvil | dependancy checking only works if you know that a later version of a library is buggy, for example. |
| 11:31.45 | fasta | SpeedEvil: even then you should be able to say that some other component is not providing the correct semantics. |
| 11:36.21 | fasta | The main problem is that people think it's too much effort to even define what something does. |
| 11:36.25 | SpeedEvil | kinda hard in many cases. for example, when the window system because of device setup chooses to put the buttons off screen, or you just get a segfault some time later |
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| 11:39.51 | fasta | The thing is that software is indeed complex, but currently only 0.0001% tries to actually handle the complexity. The rest is just throwing their hands up and ignore the problem. |
| 11:40.38 | fasta | If you look at the amount of issues which exist in modern devices, it appears that they all fail at producing things that work. |
| 11:41.01 | fasta | Linux isn't even able to work with my keyboard! |
| 11:41.11 | fasta | Yes, it works 99.99% of the time. |
| 11:45.29 | user05 | anyone with success to install bluemaemo on n900? |
| 11:45.50 | user05 | there are many broken dependencies, which aptitude can not fix |
| 11:46.02 | GNUtoo | so I guess since the servers are moved, the CSSU install doesn't work right? |
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| 11:48.28 | phr3akDom | GNUtoo: u can try some mirror |
| 11:51.13 | GNUtoo | yes that's what I'm doing |
| 11:51.22 | GNUtoo | I added the community repo of some mirror |
| 11:52.15 | phr3akDom | so whats the problem? |
| 11:53.55 | GNUtoo | I wanted to get a clean CSSU |
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| 11:54.02 | GNUtoo | I flashed a kernel |
| 11:54.08 | GNUtoo | so I now booted under maemo |
| 11:54.24 | GNUtoo | but still I need to clean my install by hand |
| 11:54.33 | GNUtoo | since there is no image to reflash |
| 11:54.43 | GNUtoo | then I must upgrade to CSSU(I'm doing it right now) |
| 11:55.49 | phr3akDom | well, so now u just have to find in the repo cssu.install (or something like that) and install it |
| 11:56.15 | GNUtoo | I've added the repo already |
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| 11:56.44 | GNUtoo | I'm installing cssu-enabler |
| 11:58.07 | GNUtoo | ok that failed |
| 11:58.12 | GNUtoo | I'll do it by hand |
| 11:58.16 | GNUtoo | adding each repo |
| 11:58.21 | GNUtoo | and updating graphically |
| 11:59.27 | phr3akDom | my reason is, the best what u can do now, is just wait |
| 11:59.30 | GNUtoo | hmmm which repos do I need |
| 11:59.43 | GNUtoo | yes I'll end up with a brick otherwise |
| 12:00.24 | GNUtoo | how much time should I wait |
| 12:00.28 | phr3akDom | how long can moving servers take?..thats the question |
| 12:00.33 | GNUtoo | because I wanted to show the n900 to someone |
| 12:00.35 | GNUtoo | like right now |
| 12:01.54 | phr3akDom | i have no 'special' repos added in my n900 |
| 12:08.56 | GNUtoo | lI'll wait then |
| 12:09.06 | GNUtoo | bye |
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| 13:03.37 | t4nk383 | guys, can u pls tell why i vant install via appManager WebOS? |
| 13:03.47 | t4nk383 | cant* |
| 13:03.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 13:04.02 | t4nk383 | neither via x_term |
| 13:04.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik webOS is for palm pre, not Nokia N900 |
| 13:05.33 | t4nk383 | but I read some stuffs and i saw some videos on youtube where ppl use it for free and it works |
| 13:06.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, not my call. If somebody else knows an answer, please step up |
| 13:06.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm out |
| 13:07.26 | t4nk383 | i tried to write sudo gainroot |
| 13:07.43 | t4nk383 | and it says": root shell enabled |
| 13:08.55 | t4nk383 | and then when I want write /home/use# apt-get install preenv |
| 13:09.07 | t4nk383 | it says the package couldn't be found |
| 13:09.11 | t4nk383 | why is that? |
| 13:09.40 | t4nk383 | I've downloaded rootsh |
| 13:09.43 | t4nk383 | .. |
| 13:09.48 | t4nk383 | cant understand anything |
| 13:11.14 | futpib | it is about running games made for webOS, not webOS itself |
| 13:12.04 | t4nk383 | so when I want to install for example avatar, how can I do it? |
| 13:12.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | preenv is in extras-devel i guess |
| 13:12.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | it at all |
| 13:12.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | if* |
| 13:12.41 | CcxCZ_ | how can I create app icon/launcher? |
| 13:12.56 | tadzik | write a .desktop file |
| 13:13.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya, i'm afk |
| 13:13.24 | t4nk383 | i dont have much choice on games in AppMan so i want to install cool games on my phone |
| 13:13.24 | thedead1440 | indeed preenv is in extras-devel |
| 13:13.36 | t4nk383 | what does it mean ? |
| 13:13.42 | thedead1440 | t4nk383: extras-devel is down so use the mirrors to download the packages required |
| 13:13.47 | thedead1440 | ~mirrors |
| 13:13.47 | infobot | [mirror] http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 13:13.59 | t4nk383 | im with mirror right now |
| 13:14.19 | t4nk383 | from where i can download it? |
| 13:14.23 | thedead1440 | i just did a test and it downloaded fine so have you run apt-get update before trying it? |
| 13:15.06 | thedead1440 | it has dependencies so its better to download it via x-term instead of packages manually but if you still want the package only: http://skeiron.org/repo/repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/preenv/preenv_0.1.7_armel.deb |
| 13:15.06 | t4nk383 | nope, so i should write on the terminal apt-get update? |
| 13:15.17 | thedead1440 | yes |
| 13:16.25 | t4nk383 | it says could not open lock file |
| 13:16.35 | t4nk383 | what's that? |
| 13:17.13 | thedead1440 | close App Manager first and if still doesn't work then in terminal: rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 13:18.17 | t4nk383 | connot remove it |
| 13:18.20 | t4nk383 | :( |
| 13:18.30 | t4nk383 | what can i do now? |
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| 13:20.21 | thedead1440 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.49 | t4nk383 | ... any advice? |
| 13:20.49 | thedead1440 | if it can't be removed it means some process is using it |
| 13:21.06 | t4nk383 | how can i stop it then |
| 13:21.43 | thedead1440 | kill pkgmgrd |
| 13:21.49 | t4nk383 | how? |
| 13:21.51 | thedead1440 | s/kill/killall/ |
| 13:22.16 | t4nk383 | in the termnal or? |
| 13:22.16 | thedead1440 | ~rtfm |
| 13:22.16 | infobot | from memory, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
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| 14:35.37 | kerio | warfare: woo! new sysop! |
| 14:36.35 | kerio | Estel_: don't use kp51, use kp52 |
| 14:36.48 | kerio | (re: charger module wtf) |
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| 14:44.40 | kerio | Estel_: kp52 from tmo is going to be released as soon as the autobuilder is up |
| 14:44.43 | kerio | Pali: right? |
| 14:44.50 | Pali | yes |
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| 14:56.30 | MetalGearSolid | Whats wrong with kp51 ? |
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| 15:13.18 | Pali | MetalGearSolid, for bme replacement you need kp52 |
| 15:13.28 | Pali | kp51 does not have needed patches |
| 15:15.38 | MetalGearSolid | ok |
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| 15:42.09 | kerio | MetalGearSolid: kp51r1 had some problems in the charger modules |
| 15:42.18 | kerio | especially related to wrongly-reported values |
| 15:42.20 | kerio | iirc |
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| 15:54.29 | ShadowJK | sighs at tracker |
| 15:54.40 | ShadowJK | please index my camera images kthx |
| 15:55.47 | jaska | it only indexes what you dont want it to. |
| 15:56.04 | ShadowJK | yeah :/ |
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| 15:58.41 | kerio | ShadowJK: nobody ever cares about tracker's feelings :( |
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| 16:14.33 | kerio | hrmpf, i think i'm going to run ntpd as a daemon |
| 16:14.40 | kerio | having to manually sync is annoying |
| 16:16.40 | ShadowJK | I wonder if opennntpd still polls 64s always |
| 16:16.45 | ShadowJK | uh |
| 16:16.47 | ShadowJK | openntp |
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| 16:17.13 | ShadowJK | tries to count the number of n |
| 16:17.47 | kerio | ShadowJK: the openntp in the repos is *not* the real openntp |
| 16:18.02 | ShadowJK | oh? |
| 16:18.03 | kerio | hell, busybox-power's ntpd is more openntpd than the one in the repos |
| 16:18.37 | kerio | i think, at least |
| 16:18.55 | kerio | hm, maybe it is, but it's just ancient? |
| 16:19.51 | kerio | This is a port of OpenBSD's native ntpd to other Unix flavours adding autoconf support and the necessary compatibility layer. It is strongly influenced by, and based in part on, the OpenSSH Portable project. |
| 16:20.08 | freemangordon | romaxa: ping |
| 16:20.34 | kerio | openntpd does its own portable releases nowadays |
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| 16:25.30 | romaxa | freemangordon: pong |
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| 16:33.21 | freemangordon | romaxa: I wrote you a couple of things earlier today, did you see them? also, right now my device plays h264 on youtube through DSP :), though to enable gstreamer support I had to fix a couple of things for gstreamer 0.10.25. Do you mind to commit those, or you want them reviewed first? I think they won't break newer gstreamer. |
| 16:36.22 | romaxa | freemangordon: I guess we should do most of the changes through pull request |
| 16:37.23 | romaxa | freemangordon: can you create pull request? |
| 16:39.35 | freemangordon | romaxa: I guess I can , but I have cloned tmeshkova's repo, so it will take me a couple of hours to make a pull request for 10-liner patch |
| 16:39.52 | freemangordon | I mean, to make my clone, to pull it, etc |
| 16:40.40 | romaxa | freemangordon: is your clone is just clone of upstream branch or you do have some your own fork ? |
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| 16:41.54 | freemangordon | I have local clone of upstream (which i've used for all commits so far) and my fork, but it is only on github, no local clone |
| 16:42.33 | freemangordon | pulling it will take a good 3 hours :) |
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| 16:46.23 | freemangordon | romaxa: http://pastebin.com/mNBAtKVL |
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| 16:51.47 | romaxa | freemangordon: ok, I see, so are these changes wont work with upstream gstreamer? or you not sure? |
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| 16:53.14 | romaxa | freemangordon: it does not compile on harmattan |
| 16:54.29 | romaxa | freemangordon: could you create patch which does that with gstreamer version check ifdef? |
| 16:54.49 | freemangordon | romaxa: ooh, it needs header change too, I didn't pastebin it |
| 16:55.06 | freemangordon | I wasn't expecting you'll try to compile it |
| 16:56.34 | freemangordon | romaxa: http://pastebin.com/ZaaE8X25 is the whole patch |
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| 17:12.29 | thopiekar | hey :) Just got a question about the maemo site.. Well, I noticed that maemo needs money do drive their website, but why are we not using an existing system now? I mean maybe debian or even ubuntu (launchpad.net) for hosting? Ok, the problem is the OS but why are we not making a CSSU update to one of these distributions? Would be much work, but we could save money at least this way.. |
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| 17:14.11 | ShadowJK | Full update is more work than resources right now.. need to reverse engineer and reimplement/rewrite stuff |
| 17:16.49 | romaxa | freemangordon: I guess this patch need to be ifdefed with gstreamer version and submitted to bugzilla.mozilla.org |
| 17:21.11 | freemangordon | romaxa: does it compile when the whole patch is used? |
| 17:22.20 | freemangordon | BTW old and new code do one and the same thing, it is just the old code uses playbin2 functionality which does not present in older gst versions |
| 17:22.30 | thopiekar | ShadowJK: hmm ok :/ |
| 17:22.59 | thopiekar | is there any way to replace maemo on the emmc with ubuntu? just saw the sdcard method.. |
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| 17:24.08 | freemangordon | s/present/exist/ |
| 17:25.06 | ShadowJK | thopiekar, just get a sd card |
| 17:25.22 | ShadowJK | makes dualbooting much easier |
| 17:26.07 | thopiekar | well, I would like to fully replace maemo with it.. but ok dualboot would be ok for the first time to see if everything is working.. |
| 17:27.18 | kerio | very little works |
| 17:28.41 | romaxa | freemangordon: yes it is |
| 17:29.04 | freemangordon | romaxa: also I found why GL performs so bad on n900. for some reason painting is done using SW rendering. |
| 17:29.27 | freemangordon | for some reason GetIsAccelerated returns false |
| 17:29.51 | freemangordon | if I hardcode true , your 3d cude renders with 25 fps |
| 17:29.56 | freemangordon | *cube |
| 17:30.02 | romaxa | freemangordon: maybe because QGraphicsView does not create QGL Context by default |
| 17:30.08 | freemangordon | exactly |
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| 17:30.27 | freemangordon | romaxa: QGLContext::currentContext() is NULL in QGraphicsMozView::QGraphicsMozView |
| 17:31.03 | romaxa | freemangordon: but QGLWidget should create one isn't? |
| 17:31.26 | freemangordon | but it does not, no idea why |
| 17:31.28 | romaxa | freemangordon: which we do in main.cpp |
| 17:31.53 | freemangordon | I guess one has to call MakeCurrent or something |
| 17:32.30 | romaxa | freemangordon: ah, I guess that one you can call in QmlApplicationViewer::paintEvent |
| 17:32.45 | freemangordon | romaxa: I am not exactly QGL guru, don't expect me to answer. |
| 17:32.57 | freemangordon | romaxa: but why it works on harmattan? |
| 17:33.03 | freemangordon | or... does it? |
| 17:33.15 | romaxa | freemangordon: because harmattan HW accelerated for everything by default |
| 17:33.39 | freemangordon | romaxa: but I am not using anything maemo 5 specific. |
| 17:33.59 | romaxa | freemangordon: anyway, gstreamer patch should go to upstream mozilla, at least bug filled and problem explained |
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| 17:34.21 | romaxa | freemangordon: I guess it is about how harmattan initialize default windows,widgets |
| 17:34.31 | freemangordon | yeah, makes sense |
| 17:35.03 | freemangordon | ok, i'll see how to workaround that for fremantle. |
| 17:35.28 | freemangordon | romaxa: is it me to raise a bug? for gstreamer that is |
| 17:35.53 | freemangordon | hates raising bugs to upstream :) |
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| 17:42.44 | thopiekar | kerio: How much space is needed at least? |
| 17:43.02 | thopiekar | I mean to install ubuntu on a sdcard.. |
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| 18:00.49 | amospalla | why is ubuntu so named here lately, is there any project to make it run under n900? |
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| 18:48.07 | Merlin | test |
| 18:49.18 | kgu | Still no news on repos? Guess it's still behind the flacky fw.. |
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| 18:51.38 | kerio | yep |
| 18:56.31 | kgu | Do you know why it takes so long to move it? |
| 18:57.08 | Merlin | Does anyone know what kind of Fw it is? a firewall should not crash because of heavy traffic ... |
| 18:58.07 | kgu | Is it because of people having ordinary life too? :) |
| 18:58.13 | kerio | Merlin: we can't read you, write louder |
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| 18:58.26 | kerio | also, it's not a physical hardware |
| 18:58.37 | kerio | it's just an endian VM on the same xen-grid as the rest of the infra |
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| 19:01.30 | merlin1991 | hm there's an imposer on this channel! |
| 19:01.45 | kerio | haha |
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| 19:06.18 | Merlin | sorry, i'm new to irc. does louder mean other color? ;) |
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| 19:07.55 | kerio | Merlin: oh god no |
| 19:08.05 | kerio | Merlin: i was just poking fun at your "test" |
| 19:08.22 | kerio | especially because irc doesn't send your messages back to you |
| 19:08.34 | kerio | so the messages you send are instantly displayed locally |
| 19:09.13 | Merlin | kerio: thanks for help! |
| 19:09.30 | kerio | anyway, welcome to #maemo |
| 19:12.27 | Merlin | ok. i'm a admin. if there is anythin i can help with let me know. i've donated already, but that's boring! |
| 19:13.35 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: another victim |
| 19:13.36 | kerio | er |
| 19:13.38 | kerio | volunteer |
| 19:14.20 | futpib_ | donating is fun! |
| 19:14.36 | futpib_ | lets make a donation party |
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| 19:22.37 | ShadowJK | freemangordon, do you remember product code for your card |
| 19:23.02 | ShadowJK | oh wait nevermind, the other is fullsize SD |
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| 20:33.59 | wirr | does anyone know if there's a thumb-compiled version of openmediaplayer available somewhere? |
| 20:34.14 | wirr | ~ding |
| 20:34.14 | infobot | dong |
| 20:34.17 | tadzik | look in tmo thread |
| 20:34.20 | tadzik | I got mine from there |
| 20:36.34 | wirr | tadzik, thanks a lot, found a link to a filehoster, is it the one? |
| 20:36.43 | tadzik | wirr: I think so, yes |
| 20:36.51 | tadzik | I can check the md5sum of the one I have |
| 20:36.56 | wirr | yes, please |
| 20:37.31 | tadzik | ok, I can't really. I seem to have removed it :P |
| 20:37.39 | wirr | ok, never mind, thanks |
| 20:37.47 | tadzik | I can give you the md5sum of the binary, if that comforts you |
| 20:37.55 | wirr | it won't hurt :-) |
| 20:38.26 | tadzik | ends with 6ac820 |
| 20:39.39 | wirr | thanks, matches |
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| 20:39.44 | tadzik | awesome |
| 20:40.04 | wirr | @everybody: if you had to name your one, favorite maemo application, what would it be? |
| 20:40.15 | tadzik | GetThingsDone! |
| 20:40.18 | tadzik | but I'm biased :P |
| 20:40.43 | tadzik | other that that it's either omp or modrana |
| 20:41.42 | wirr | tadzik, GetThingsDone as in qtdone? |
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| 20:42.31 | tadzik | wirr: no, my university project which I published :) |
| 20:42.48 | wirr | :-) link? |
| 20:42.52 | tadzik | I put it on tmo few weeks ago, didn't update it since, but I do use it daily |
| 20:43.28 | tadzik | looks |
| 20:43.41 | tadzik | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88360 there it is |
| 20:44.53 | wirr | sounds interesting, i'll have a look at it |
| 20:45.02 | wirr | anyone else, no favourites? |
| 20:47.05 | kgu | Opera - I now use it as my main browser, and IMHO it's better than MicroB |
| 20:47.24 | wirr | kgu, no ads? adblock-plus support? |
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| 20:49.00 | kgu | guess not, but I don't need it anyway |
| 20:49.13 | wirr | ok |
| 20:50.08 | kgu | Does microb support adblock? |
| 20:50.25 | tadzik | yeah |
| 20:52.26 | kgu | Nice, but I dont visit a lot of pages with adds anyway |
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| 21:00.05 | kerio | i found adblock too heavy, for microb |
| 21:00.10 | kerio | there's a css adblocker in the repos |
| 21:00.16 | kerio | it also does click-to-flash |
| 21:00.21 | kerio | which is absolutely MANDATORY |
| 21:01.21 | freemangordon | qwazix: ping |
| 21:01.26 | wirr | kerio, sounds good, i'll try that instead |
| 21:02.37 | kerio | wirr: adflashblock-css |
| 21:02.46 | wirr | thanks |
| 21:05.34 | tadzik | I quite like the lack of flash :) |
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| 21:22.00 | wirr | can someone tell me where to find older versions of maemo packages? seems like newest cryptsetup pkgs are screwed :-( |
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| 21:29.00 | iluminator105 | i have cssu where is open ssh package for it |
| 21:29.17 | kerio | wirr: any apt-mirror of repository.maemo.org should host older versions |
| 21:29.44 | kerio | wirr: it's probably easier to go on maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org and then browse manually |
| 21:29.58 | kerio | iluminator105: repository.maemo.org is down, you have to add an extras mirror |
| 21:30.15 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: do we have an ETA for repository.maemo.org? |
| 21:30.26 | wirr | yay, thanks kerio |
| 21:30.39 | wirr | ~mirrors |
| 21:30.39 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
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| 22:26.54 | WizardNumberNext | Estel_: you know where, but you are completely death. You cannot even set 1350mA on bq24150! It is impossible - it would be taken as spurious value and some other value would set instead! I do not remember what value would be set, but this fail-safe value then. |
| 22:32.50 | kerio | you can't set that value simply because there's no way to set it |
| 22:32.58 | kerio | there are like four values you can set |
| 22:32.58 | WizardNumberNext | Estel_: I do hear difference and it is huge! If you are talking about digital sound from bottom up, then you won't hear difference. But I am really sorry that you have ears made of rubber, mine are not. Even MC sounds better, then stinky CD! ANALOG is ANALOG end of story. ANOLOG signal, which is 20kHz CANNOT be reproduced with 44.1kHz digital sampling! It is IMPOSSIBLE! What you hear in music is something close to mix of huge |
| 22:32.59 | WizardNumberNext | amount of sine waves, not saw waves! Saying that 44.1kHz digital sampling can reproduce 22050Hz is complete lye! Even 192kHz is struggling with it and I know what I am saying! Nothing comparess to sound straigth out of pin from vinyl. Nothing can distort it, so stop talking bulshit and start listening to VINYL! Find yourself Queen - Innuendo on vynil - listen to it and then to CD! CD is flat as hell, have no sound whatsoever |
| 22:33.01 | WizardNumberNext | and 90% percent of dynamic of sound is complately lost forever! |
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| 22:33.30 | WizardNumberNext | kerio: I agree - I have read datasheet |
| 22:34.00 | WizardNumberNext | it was 500, something around 800, 1200 or 1250 and I think 100 |
| 22:34.40 | WizardNumberNext | I am not sure about values other then 500, but bq24150 cannot do more then 1250 - that is absolute max anyway |
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| 22:34.58 | WizardNumberNext | so I have NFC what Estel_ was talking about |
| 22:35.05 | kerio | also, you might "know" what you're saying, but the nyquist-shannon sampling theorem is a *theorem* |
| 22:35.25 | kerio | sampling at twice the highest frequency *will* let you completely reconstruct the signal |
| 22:36.06 | WizardNumberNext | I know that I cannot find even vinyl-RIP which sound anywhere close to queen-innuendo straight from vinyl listened only to pin! |
| 22:36.28 | WizardNumberNext | there's nothing even close to poor imitation of that sound |
| 22:36.40 | kerio | the fucking vinyl can't be listened without /destroying it/ and replacing it with a sligtly crappier version |
| 22:36.45 | kerio | *can't be listened to |
| 22:37.06 | freemangordon | WizardNumberNext: kerio is right (though I know that theorem under slightly different name) |
| 22:37.23 | WizardNumberNext | I know it wears out, but even after 1000 times it sounds better, then CD |
| 22:38.19 | tadzik | damnit Heisenberg, leave my vinyls alone;) |
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| 22:38.42 | WizardNumberNext | look guys - brain is amazing tool - it helps you remove all noises and all clicks - you do mentaly hear them, only physicaly, but in your mind they do not exists |
| 22:39.01 | WizardNumberNext | at as long as you are not hunting for them and threat them as noise |
| 22:39.20 | WizardNumberNext | right tadzik |
| 22:39.32 | kerio | so... vinyl is better because you like it more |
| 22:39.33 | kerio | got it |
| 22:39.38 | tadzik | yeah, pretty much |
| 22:39.43 | WizardNumberNext | nothing, absolutely nothing compares |
| 22:39.58 | tadzik | I think it's mostly the "I paid so much for it that it'd better be good" effect |
| 22:39.59 | GeneralAntilles | Hello, nostalgia. |
| 22:40.12 | WizardNumberNext | no, because brain cannot enchance quality, but can remove any noise |
| 22:41.05 | kerio | meh, i really can't deal with this |
| 22:41.18 | WizardNumberNext | I paid no single pence, but still as soon as I go to poland I would hunt down person, who stolen my collection |
| 22:41.37 | WizardNumberNext | kerio: you cannot change facts |
| 22:42.21 | WizardNumberNext | you do not any noise removing software - brain is doing it for you and it is much better then any software |
| 22:42.23 | kerio | yep, much better |
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| 22:44.13 | WizardNumberNext | human brain is still more powerfull, then any even strongest super computer, so there's no comparisson. AND it works on edge of analog and digital, so it can things, which are impossible to implement in electronics at the moment |
| 22:44.49 | tadzik | WizardNumberNext: hello from Poland |
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| 22:45.30 | WizardNumberNext | and because it works as it work some people develops those shaking seizures (don't remember name at the moment) |
| 22:45.36 | WizardNumberNext | hello tadzik |
| 22:45.43 | futpib_ | well, if you record you fav music with all it's noise and then play it, your brain will still filter all noise and so on |
| 22:45.51 | tadzik | I'm sorry you bring bad memories from here |
| 22:46.06 | WizardNumberNext | tadzik: just please stick with english |
| 22:46.10 | tadzik | sure |
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| 22:46.24 | teotwaki | hi GeneralAntilles |
| 22:46.33 | WizardNumberNext | tadzik: it is not that i have bad memories - it happened after I left that country |
| 22:46.37 | GeneralAntilles | Hello, teotwaki |
| 22:46.44 | WizardNumberNext | but still want my records back |
| 22:46.55 | teotwaki | GeneralAntilles: sup? |
| 22:47.07 | GeneralAntilles | Nothing interesting. Playing with my new Arduino. |
| 22:47.19 | teotwaki | the 512 one? |
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| 22:47.20 | WizardNumberNext | tadzik: I have seen few polish here already |
| 22:47.27 | GeneralAntilles | Uno R3 |
| 22:47.34 | WizardNumberNext | CzarnyKot for instance |
| 22:47.34 | tadzik | I have that one too, it's nice |
| 22:47.35 | teotwaki | cool |
| 22:47.45 | tadzik | yeah, there's a couple of us |
| 22:48.24 | WizardNumberNext | not many though, for polish it is quite expensive toy (n900) even now |
| 22:48.38 | WizardNumberNext | anyway I got mine from father, after modem failed |
| 22:48.51 | WizardNumberNext | two pieces of foam and it works |
| 22:48.51 | tadzik | anyway, maybe my ears made of rubber are enough for getting a musical education, but I still don't hear the difference between 320 kbps mp3 and anything more sophisticated :) |
| 22:49.26 | teotwaki | tadzik: that's because your sound system isn't good enough |
| 22:49.26 | WizardNumberNext | not many people hear difference and you still need good sound system for that |
| 22:49.48 | WizardNumberNext | just speakers won't do the trick |
| 22:49.54 | teotwaki | and I don't mean you need gold-plated HDMI cables, just that a regular set of headphones or 5.1 soundsystem won't help |
| 22:49.55 | tadzik | I guess I'll pass then |
| 22:50.10 | WizardNumberNext | you need something closer to professional |
| 22:50.35 | WizardNumberNext | teotwaki: depends which one |
| 22:50.47 | WizardNumberNext | I have found good 5.1 on street |
| 22:50.50 | teotwaki | note the "regular" qualifier. |
| 22:51.11 | WizardNumberNext | Sony STR-KLS40 |
| 22:51.29 | WizardNumberNext | but it is really hard to find remote for it\ |
| 22:51.38 | WizardNumberNext | I have fetish for originals |
| 22:51.44 | teotwaki | well |
| 22:51.48 | teotwaki | there's your problem :) |
| 22:51.51 | teotwaki | You have Sony. |
| 22:52.03 | WizardNumberNext | yeah, SIRC |
| 22:52.07 | WizardNumberNext | not RC5 |
| 22:52.12 | teotwaki | Next month, they'll release a software update that removes the ability to play music on your 5.1 system ;) |
| 22:52.32 | WizardNumberNext | even IR in n900 doesn't do the trick |
| 22:52.54 | WizardNumberNext | I never had 5.1 capability - it is fake 5.1 |
| 22:53.04 | WizardNumberNext | it have stereo feed |
| 22:53.39 | WizardNumberNext | but have really good subwoofer - it neither chokes nor sounds like underwater |
| 22:54.03 | WizardNumberNext | this one have very pure sound, bit warm, very natural bass |
| 22:54.19 | teotwaki | it's still Sony, it's eeeeeevil :) |
| 22:54.48 | WizardNumberNext | it is classical construction, not evil bass-relfex |
| 22:55.02 | teotwaki | I don't care about the quality |
| 22:55.04 | teotwaki | it's Sony. |
| 22:55.08 | teotwaki | Evil Company (tm). |
| 22:55.32 | WizardNumberNext | I do not care - it works and sony have no influence on how I use it, as there is no way to connect it to anything what is not sound |
| 22:55.49 | WizardNumberNext | it is evil company, but sound-wise it is not bad |
| 22:56.12 | WizardNumberNext | it is not great, neither good, but not bad |
| 22:56.41 | WizardNumberNext | good enough to hear difference of sample rate |
| 22:57.10 | WizardNumberNext | even if it just upsampled from 44.1 to 192 (it sounds worse at 96) |
| 22:57.50 | WizardNumberNext | I want to have uniform sampling rate as my SC doesn't support more then one stream, so I am stucked with only one |
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| 23:25.04 | merlin1991 | has to google evil bass reflex |
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