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| 00:03.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.google.de/search?q=draytek+vigor+sip-alg |
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| 00:05.09 | grummund | both the draytek and the N900 will register and show online on the sipgate status page |
| 00:06.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, and that's where problems already start |
| 00:06.17 | grummund | test calls to sipgate test no. 10000 work using the N900 |
| 00:06.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:06.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | even |
| 00:07.16 | grummund | k. lemme grab that link |
| 00:08.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> Kevin Hi Tonnie The document assumes that you start off from factory defaults. By default the SIP ALG should start disabled. It should be left disabled. However you can manually disable the SIP ALG by logging onto the Draytek using telnet, and issuing the command: sys sip_alg 0 |
| 00:09.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.surevoip.co.uk/support/wiki/troubleshooting:draytek_2820 |
| 00:10.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw draytek vigot SIP-ALG known to be broken since ~2005, I'm amazed it still is |
| 00:11.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang - vigor* |
| 00:11.22 | grummund | btw the draytek works fine with voipfone |
| 00:12.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://support.draytek.net.au/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/409/9/do-vigor-routers-support-sip-alg |
| 00:12.06 | grummund | maybe i should try with voipfone on the N900 |
| 00:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should try with N900 as exposed-host, sometimes also incorrectly called DMZ |
| 00:15.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | the problem with vigor basically is its NAT (symmetric NAT) as well as ALG |
| 00:18.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-behave-nat-00.txt |
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| 00:19.30 | grummund | hmm, how to run multiple xterms? |
| 00:19.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | Furthermore, only the external host that receives a packet can send a UDP packet back to the internal host. |
| 00:19.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | grummund: "new" in menu |
| 00:21.39 | grummund | thanks didn't notice the menu there ;) |
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| 00:24.52 | grummund | maemo has no telnet? |
| 00:29.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, in xterm? |
| 00:29.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno |
| 00:31.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, no telnet binary, busybox-power seems to have it. probably in tools-repo you also find telnet I guess |
| 00:32.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg |
| 00:32.07 | infobot | methinks pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 00:33.11 | RiD | bots are not capable of thinking |
| 00:33.41 | RiD | are you enslaving someone to make the "bot" work? |
| 00:34.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/telnet/ |
| 00:36.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | grummund: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/telnet/0.17-maemo2/ or enable extras-devel catalog |
| 00:39.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | grummund: http://www.starplex.co.uk/html/help/sipgate-probs.html etc |
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| 00:40.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://secure.sipgate.de/user/configreader.php?show_conf=vigor2600v https://secure.https://secure.sipgate.de/user/configreader.php?show_conf=Vigor2710sipgate.de/user/configreader.php?show_conf=Vigor2710 |
| 00:40.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooops |
| 00:40.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://secure.sipgate.de/user/configreader.php?show_conf=Vigor2710 |
| 00:42.21 | RiD | sip |
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| 00:42.58 | grummund | 2600v is the one i have but voipfone sip is working fine with it already |
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| 00:49.18 | Jef91 | What is the best way to compile software for Maemo? Is there a straight forward method of setting up a chroot I can just build packages in? |
| 00:49.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>I have had nothing but trouble getting my sipgate account to work with this router and despite communication with sipgate and draytek, neither were able to solve the problem. I finally managed to solve it myself after many hours of frustration<< |
| 00:50.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | Jef91: get scratchbox |
| 00:50.37 | Jef91 | Is that a cross compiling tool DocScrutinizer05? |
| 00:50.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, basically |
| 00:51.16 | Jef91 | What about if I have a fairly snappy ARM machine I'd like to compile natively on DocScrutinizer05? |
| 00:51.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/development/ |
| 00:53.32 | Jef91 | thanks DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:53.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 00:53.54 | Jef91 | Going to see if I can get my Pandora radio application working since PYRadio is now dead. |
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| 01:02.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Jef91: you might consider using the VM: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_on_non-Linux_operating_systems |
| 01:04.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll probably need to update stuff inside that VM, I heard it's kinda ... old. |
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| 04:40.16 | stardiviner | What is "cellular network" on N900 ? Is there a wiki for this ? |
| 04:42.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki cellphone |
| 04:48.07 | unclouded | what's the name of the package I need to "apt-get source ..." the stock Maemo kernel? |
| 04:51.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | kernel-maemo, kernel-modules-maemo, I guess |
| 04:54.19 | unclouded | I think kernel-maemo is the old name for kernel-power? |
| 04:54.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be right |
| 04:55.33 | unclouded | even the kernel-bootimg package says: Source: kernel-bootimg |
| 04:55.45 | unclouded | and is about 5K when downloaded with apt-get source |
| 04:55.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask pali or freemangordon |
| 04:56.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | or moh |
| 04:56.41 | unclouded | or maybe what I want has been done already: an ext4 module for the stock kernel? |
| 04:56.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | too long ago I dealt with that |
| 05:00.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might find something in paulfertser's branch of hostmode kernel on hen.garage.maemo.org |
| 05:01.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has a clean kernel with only Nokia patches on top, as a basis |
| 05:01.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 05:02.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/h-e-n/ |
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| 05:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=h-e-n;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/maemo-rx51-kernel |
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| 05:07.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | unclouded: you'll need git for that one |
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| 05:08.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you plan to wget https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=h-e-n;a=tree;h=a2abd51199b9e61542a24ae9086ac1c6263106c4;hb=a2abd51199b9e61542a24ae9086ac1c6263106c4 |
| 05:08.31 | stardiviner | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
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| 05:09.49 | unclouded | cheers! |
| 05:11.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | unclouded: the also should be something more official, I recall I've seen mxr.maemo.orh once |
| 05:12.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/ |
| 05:12.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should be able to find out on which git it is based |
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| 05:16.29 | unclouded | there's an rx51_tiny_defconfig there as well as rx51_defconfig! |
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| 08:26.23 | Jef91 | Anyone setup a maemo scratch recently? The instructions here -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation aren't going smoothly on my Ubuntu 12.04 install |
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| 14:05.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: it works on new IP |
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| 14:32.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: or are you saying Nemein adjusted the DNS record to point to the working wiki now? |
| 14:33.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | err nope, not yet |
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| 14:40.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: been you the mxr.m.o guy? |
| 14:40.26 | teotwaki | waa? |
| 14:40.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | then I guess it's been timeless |
| 14:41.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: mxr.maemo.org, any info? |
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| 14:50.14 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: i am not using your hosts file and it still works hence my surprise |
| 14:50.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | what do you mean by "works"? Sorry can't test easily now, since my hosts *is* redirected |
| 14:51.08 | thedead1440 | login and edit works |
| 14:51.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh! |
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| 14:51.35 | thedead1440 | ah false alarm |
| 14:51.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, seems somebody backported the fix from new to obsolete server |
| 14:51.47 | thedead1440 | just found something in my hosts file: 188.117.59.202 wiki.maemo.org |
| 14:51.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAHA |
| 14:52.06 | thedead1440 | so in my sleep I used your hosts file's edit somehow :p |
| 14:52.18 | thedead1440 | i can't remember too why i did that :S |
| 14:52.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe ~jrtools lured you in? |
| 14:52.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 14:52.38 | infobot | cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts-maemobackup && echo "188.117.59.202 wiki.maemo.org" >> /etc/hosts; http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 14:52.46 | thedead1440 | oh yes it must be that |
| 14:52.54 | thedead1440 | you were parroting it a number of times i remember |
| 14:53.27 | thedead1440 | anyway its good I can get some important edits done now. Thanks for it! |
| 14:54.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm honestly feeling relieved that we don't have TWO editable wikis now |
| 14:54.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | would've created next nightmare |
| 14:54.48 | thedead1440 | haha |
| 15:01.22 | timeless | DocScrutinizer05: which part of it? |
| 15:01.27 | timeless | i think someone broke the dns |
| 15:02.14 | timeless | iirc it's somewhere near http://timelesss.justdave.net/mxr.maemo.org |
| 15:02.28 | timeless | ooh, err |
| 15:02.38 | timeless | put that on an s diet? |
| 15:03.34 | timeless | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/maemo/ |
| 15:05.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: we're about to backup stuff for maemo.org. mxr is derived data, but we might want to backup the magic behind it |
| 15:05.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you say mxr.maemo.org is just a redirect to that URL you mentioned? |
| 15:06.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | (sorry for laziness, I probably could check the IPs but my etc/hosts makes that a tad cumbersome) |
| 15:06.42 | timeless | no |
| 15:06.48 | timeless | it's a cname for timeless.justdave.net |
| 15:06.56 | timeless | which responds differently when you visit it by that hostname |
| 15:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 15:07.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | but the host is justdave.net, not maemo.org? |
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| 15:08.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I could consider it "safe" for now? |
| 15:10.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: ^^^ |
| 15:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. the server is not one of those Nokia will tear down soonish? |
| 15:11.23 | timeless | right |
| 15:11.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | good :-) |
| 15:11.31 | timeless | it's actually dreamhost |
| 15:11.38 | timeless | as long as you can cname it, it works |
| 15:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh yeah, don't get me started on DNS |
| 15:12.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | dnsmaster@nokia.com is a vacant position obviously |
| 15:14.46 | timeless | obviously |
| 15:16.58 | timeless | oh, the dns isn't dead yet |
| 15:17.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, the DNS are all under Nokia control still - and *only* under Nokia control |
| 15:18.23 | merlin1991 | oh shit: merlin1991: Posts: 81 | Thanked: 666 times |
| 15:18.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | hm? |
| 15:18.47 | luf | merlin1991: too low values? |
| 15:18.49 | merlin1991 | look at the thankscount ;) |
| 15:19.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, gimme a link and I'll make that 667 |
| 15:19.43 | merlin1991 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1311844#post1311844 hm you could fix it there :D |
| 15:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm more concerned that you broke my record of 6.x thanks per post |
| 15:21.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 15:21.13 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 15:21.32 | luf | merlin1991: 668 ;) |
| 15:21.36 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 15:21.51 | merlin1991 | damn I felt so powerfull and evil, now it's all gone |
| 15:21.52 | timeless | heh |
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| 15:23.40 | luf | merlin1991: this should be your goal ;) freemangordon 7th Jan 2013 , 14:46 Posts: 1,990 | Thanked: 7,582 times | Joined on Mar 2010 |
| 15:24.47 | GeneralAntilles | Karmic competition. |
| 15:24.56 | GeneralAntilles | remembers when there were no Thanks! |
| 15:26.47 | tadzik | there were two buttons: "Thanks!" and "No, thanks" |
| 15:27.34 | GeneralAntilles | "No, thanks" would end badly. |
| 15:28.14 | tadzik | possibly |
| 15:30.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon is cheating ;-P |
| 15:30.21 | merlin1991 | well not so much |
| 15:30.32 | merlin1991 | his ratio is below 4 because he posts so much :D |
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| 15:31.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wish I had posted #1 of some threads that I initiated |
| 15:31.42 | thedead1440 | check MohammadAG's out too ;) Posts: 2,454 | Thanked: 11,967 times | |
| 15:31.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | moh got more thanks for h-e-n than me ;-P |
| 15:32.12 | luf | merlin1991: :D from thanks -> ratio? what next? |
| 15:32.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: accepted? |
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| 15:33.10 | merlin1991 | luf: thanks / # of posts |
| 15:33.24 | luf | I understand ;) |
| 15:33.25 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, hmm? |
| 15:33.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | CO |
| 15:34.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | HF-CO |
| 15:34.25 | GeneralAntilles | Ah, yeah. |
| 15:34.28 | GeneralAntilles | Just needs to be voted on. |
| 15:34.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope that's just formal! |
| 15:35.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | so already congrats from me (and whole council) |
| 15:36.55 | RST38h | Doc: So, is it HF?Or is it CO? Or are we getting all kinky and using DF? =) |
| 15:36.56 | merlin1991 | wtf are you 2 on about? |
| 15:37.04 | merlin1991 | now 3 :D |
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| 15:42.04 | spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: Hi! ;) |
| 15:42.49 | spoofy | When the garage.maemo will be available? |
| 15:43.23 | spoofy | I have a newest and fully working version of nmap |
| 15:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: I guess you're kidding me |
| 15:45.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: HiFo searching for new Communication officer |
| 15:47.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo DNS is http://mwkn.net/2013/01/community.html and http://maemo.cloud-7.de/migration-project/DNS-TBD-.etc.hosts |
| 15:47.03 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 15:47.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: ^^^ please try that |
| 15:48.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: for now the "old" garage will never again come up, and "new" garage may or may not work already, but for sure will be available under the URL no sooner than HiFo owns/controls the maemo domain |
| 15:50.00 | spoofy | Ugh. So you have some serious problems with migration |
| 15:50.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | the main problem we have right now is Nokia not transfering domain control to HiFo |
| 15:51.15 | LinuxCode | no surprise there |
| 15:51.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | deletes a line about a new insulting domain name to be used when that doesn't work out well in the end |
| 15:51.51 | spoofy | Okey. But why? When did HiFo start to talk with nokia guys? |
| 15:52.18 | LinuxCode | DocScrutinizer05, let me guess, they have the TM for maemo, so want to keep hold of the domain too |
| 15:52.22 | LinuxCode | as business asset |
| 15:52.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: for sure no sooner than HiFo got established |
| 15:52.54 | spoofy | nokia wankers... |
| 15:53.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | LinuxCode: that's exactly what hiFo and Nokia lawyers(!) are talking about |
| 15:53.14 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 15:53.18 | LinuxCode | figures |
| 15:54.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I need to establish a best practice for HiFo board to CC council on their negotiations |
| 15:54.36 | spoofy | Ugh. I know that this is not a good moment but can someone contact with onion router developers? We need a tor client update. |
| 15:55.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: everybody looking at *you* |
| 15:55.28 | spoofy | Ugh. Okey. |
| 15:56.13 | spoofy | There's just a few things to finish pwniephone image. |
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| 17:47.18 | kerio | spoofy: how "image" is your image? |
| 17:49.19 | spoofy | kerio: what? |
| 17:49.45 | spoofy | kerio: I'm making a image - snapshot to backup via backupmenu |
| 17:49.52 | spoofy | like in pwniephone |
| 17:50.16 | kerio | a tarball can't really be called image imo |
| 17:50.54 | spoofy | With scripts that can be called "installers"? I think it can be called image ;) |
| 17:52.03 | spoofy | kerio: maybe you prefered to pack this via jpeg or tiff? :P |
| 17:52.21 | kerio | an image is something that you write 1:1 on a storage device |
| 17:52.53 | spoofy | yeah.. and? |
| 17:53.47 | spoofy | Ugh.. nevermind. I update many things on maemo like ruby, subversion, nmap, metasploit |
| 17:55.40 | spoofy | so ppp will be great ;) |
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| 18:38.07 | WizardNumberNext | hello huys |
| 18:38.46 | freemangordon | WizardNumberNext: hi, how is 3.8 going? |
| 18:39.46 | WizardNumberNext | I have one question about bq27x00_battery driver. CURRENT_NOW, CHARGE_NOW, CHARGE_FULL are those in uA or some raw values? |
| 18:40.04 | WizardNumberNext | quite good - I lost track of patches, because of reboot |
| 18:40.34 | WizardNumberNext | but, quite few patches didn't apply, because they were already there and some had be to moved to other places |
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| 18:41.09 | freemangordon | hmm, what wa already there? bqxxx stuff? |
| 18:41.14 | freemangordon | *was |
| 18:41.22 | WizardNumberNext | I made changes in patches itself as well, so I can send it back later on, when it would be finished |
| 18:41.28 | WizardNumberNext | I am around 40 |
| 18:41.44 | freemangordon | 40? |
| 18:41.48 | WizardNumberNext | rx51 ir, charger, bq2xxxxx |
| 18:41.54 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:42.03 | freemangordon | those are already upstreamed |
| 18:42.06 | WizardNumberNext | yes somewhere around 40th patch |
| 18:42.12 | freemangordon | good |
| 18:42.36 | WizardNumberNext | I know, as I said some good to vanilia kernel already |
| 18:42.51 | SpeedEvil | http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3850056/qualcomms-insane-ces-2013-keynote-pictures-tweets |
| 18:42.55 | WizardNumberNext | I am bit worried about API, but we shall see |
| 18:43.13 | SpeedEvil | haha |
| 18:43.16 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 18:44.25 | WizardNumberNext | if, API would be changed, then I would read changes and see if i can fix that (i am not good programmer, but still can fix some stuff and write patches and programms) |
| 18:45.05 | WizardNumberNext | freemangordon, so do you know if those values in bq27x00 are in uA? |
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| 18:45.42 | Pali | WizardNumberNext, uA, uV, or uAh |
| 18:45.50 | MrPingu | Hello! |
| 18:46.21 | Pali | look to Documentations/power in linux git tree |
| 18:46.23 | WizardNumberNext | Pali, so those are in real uV and uA and uAh? If so, then it is really nice |
| 18:46.35 | WizardNumberNext | hello MrPingu |
| 18:47.02 | WizardNumberNext | Pali: I would have to pull pk source to see it |
| 18:47.07 | WizardNumberNext | I am bit lazy |
| 18:47.39 | Pali | I think it is u* ot m* values |
| 18:47.49 | Pali | it should be u* |
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| 18:49.22 | WizardNumberNext | Pali: all would be in micro-something, because values are in thousands (like 4123123 for voltage |
| 18:50.11 | WizardNumberNext | BTW biggest CHARGE_FULL ever got, guys? |
| 18:50.12 | Pali | ok |
| 18:50.25 | Pali | CHARGE_FULL is bad on n900 |
| 18:50.40 | Pali | s/FULL/DESIGN/ |
| 18:51.08 | WizardNumberNext | as long as I was using BME as charge, I wasn't getting beyond 79xxxx |
| 18:51.33 | WizardNumberNext | now with one of batteries I got 1264494 |
| 18:51.48 | Pali | you need to calibrate battery |
| 18:51.49 | Pali | chip |
| 18:52.00 | Pali | otherwise values will be incorrect |
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| 18:53.15 | WizardNumberNext | Pali: I do, I do not use scripts, buer I got this power-something package for statusbar and changed from BME to bq27200 there and now I am getting to voltages like 3.2v before shutdown |
| 18:53.43 | kerio | advanced power monitor, probably |
| 18:53.57 | WizardNumberNext | chip is self-calibrating (at least this is what datasheet says) |
| 18:54.12 | WizardNumberNext | kerio: you might be right |
| 18:54.15 | freemangordon | APM? isn;t that a piece of crap? |
| 18:54.17 | kerio | yep |
| 18:54.38 | freemangordon | WizardNumberNext: it is self-calibrating, but BME does not allow it ti calibrate |
| 18:54.43 | freemangordon | *to |
| 18:54.55 | kerio | well, if you're lucky you might get to EDV1 for enough time |
| 18:55.01 | kerio | i think |
| 18:55.04 | WizardNumberNext | freemangordon: it works better then BME, so it is better then nothing, but if you know something better I would jump right on it |
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| 18:55.49 | freemangordon | uses BME and waits Pali to finish with BME replacement stuff |
| 18:55.53 | WizardNumberNext | I noticedd that BME doesn't allow it to calibrate (voltage never falls to approparaite level) |
| 18:55.58 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:56.28 | kerio | freemangordon: the bme replacement WORKSFORME |
| 18:56.51 | freemangordon | kerio: KP is still not released |
| 18:56.55 | freemangordon | KP52 |
| 18:57.05 | kerio | kp52 also WORKSFORME |
| 18:57.07 | kerio | :) |
| 18:57.32 | WizardNumberNext | what's new in KP52? |
| 18:57.35 | Pali | kp is not released because extras-devel not working |
| 18:57.35 | freemangordon | kerio: sure, but I have enough development stuff on my device |
| 18:57.37 | kerio | stuffs |
| 18:57.45 | freemangordon | Pali: I know :) |
| 18:57.53 | kerio | notably, bridge interfaces |
| 18:58.01 | Pali | also there is final ipv6 support |
| 18:58.02 | freemangordon | actually I am wating for kernel in CSSU :D |
| 18:58.05 | Pali | on my hdd |
| 18:58.06 | freemangordon | *wating |
| 18:58.18 | luf | KP52 ... what about my bug report? |
| 18:58.27 | Pali | freemangordon, migrated wiki is working :-) |
| 18:59.00 | freemangordon | Pali: yep, but I was on certs, tklock, obexftp, what else? these days :) |
| 18:59.02 | luf | Pali: ^^^? |
| 18:59.05 | WizardNumberNext | kerio: does it mean it would be possible to implement hostapd on N900? |
| 18:59.23 | Pali | luf, edit /etc/hosts |
| 18:59.32 | Pali | WizardNumberNext, no |
| 18:59.35 | kerio | afaik you can't hostap because of the hardware |
| 18:59.37 | WizardNumberNext | why? |
| 18:59.43 | Pali | our wifi driver has not AP mode |
| 18:59.49 | luf | Pali: KP52 ... what about my bug report? |
| 18:59.49 | kerio | you can do that with ad-hoc mode ofc |
| 18:59.57 | kerio | but you only need iptables for that |
| 19:00.04 | WizardNumberNext | wait - let me se what linuxwireless is telling about it - maybe it is possible |
| 19:00.04 | kerio | and that's been in kernel-power for ages |
| 19:00.24 | WizardNumberNext | I do not want ad-hoc - WPA doesn't work in ad-hoc |
| 19:00.25 | Pali | WizardNumberNext, wl1251 kernel driver has no AP mode :-( |
| 19:00.26 | freemangordon | Pali: iirc firmware supports AP mode, it is the driver that does not supports it. might be wrong though |
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| 19:00.32 | WizardNumberNext | shit! |
| 19:00.38 | Pali | WizardNumberNext, WPA2 working in ad-hoc too |
| 19:00.40 | kerio | well, maybe the drivers that support injection could work |
| 19:00.46 | WizardNumberNext | how is that? |
| 19:00.49 | Pali | look at wpa_supplicant example configuration |
| 19:01.18 | Pali | but on maemo you need to turn off wlancond and install wpa_supplicant |
| 19:01.19 | WizardNumberNext | but WPA needs RADIUS server (which is in hostapd) |
| 19:01.32 | Pali | I mean WPA-PSK |
| 19:01.35 | Pali | not EAP |
| 19:01.48 | Pali | RADIUS server is needed for WPA-EAP |
| 19:02.21 | Pali | freemangordon, no |
| 19:02.29 | Pali | firmware does not support AP mode |
| 19:02.30 | WizardNumberNext | even WPA-PSK still uses embedded radius - at least it looks like it - I see kernel messages on my server (I have two AP on it) |
| 19:02.36 | Pali | only HW has support |
| 19:02.37 | freemangordon | Pali: ok |
| 19:02.48 | Pali | but firmware was not released (maybe not exists) |
| 19:02.56 | Pali | wl1251 is in maemo |
| 19:03.04 | Pali | wl1271 *has* AP mode |
| 19:03.11 | SpeedEvil | would be great |
| 19:03.25 | WizardNumberNext | actually I was thinking about making it possible to stay connected to my private WLAN and at same tiume use 3G |
| 19:03.28 | freemangordon | Pali: did someone try firmware from HARM? |
| 19:03.28 | Pali | but wl1251 hw is different as wl1271 |
| 19:03.40 | SpeedEvil | wrt android 4.2 not doing ad hoc |
| 19:03.41 | Pali | freemangordon, will not work |
| 19:03.52 | Pali | wl1251 and wl1271 are very different |
| 19:03.56 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:04.07 | kerio | WizardNumberNext: it's possible |
| 19:04.15 | kerio | it's just not supported by the UI and/or ICD2 |
| 19:04.20 | WizardNumberNext | I know - it is only up to software |
| 19:04.27 | Pali | and now wl1251 is old HW and TI does not supporting it :-( |
| 19:04.43 | WizardNumberNext | I use Linux on server, desktop and laptop, so I am quite experienced in it |
| 19:05.17 | Pali | WizardNumberNext, do you using WPA-EAP with hostapd? |
| 19:05.24 | Pali | on server? |
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| 19:05.45 | WizardNumberNext | wait I am just thinking about NETGEAR router - something like DGsomething - it have wl1251 |
| 19:05.50 | WizardNumberNext | and it works in AP |
| 19:05.59 | Pali | really?? |
| 19:06.09 | WizardNumberNext | Pali: no I use WPA-PSK with hostapd |
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| 19:06.26 | WizardNumberNext | I was to lazy to set up WPA-PSK there, but it is planned |
| 19:06.35 | Pali | if it has TI wl1251 and AP working, can you share linux kernel with firmware? |
| 19:06.47 | WizardNumberNext | DG638v2 I suppose |
| 19:06.49 | Pali | linux with sources? |
| 19:07.07 | WizardNumberNext | and there are soureces for it as well |
| 19:07.20 | WizardNumberNext | for whole lot! not only kernel |
| 19:07.33 | Pali | 2 years ago I tried to find FW for wl1251 with AP mode but nothing |
| 19:07.44 | WizardNumberNext | I have it somewhere on server - give me sec and I would get back with more knowlegde |
| 19:07.51 | Pali | I did not find anything... |
| 19:08.07 | WizardNumberNext | BTW look it up on openwrt |
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| 19:09.04 | WizardNumberNext | Netgear DG834v2 |
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| 19:09.22 | Pali | WizardNumberNext, also please check again if it has Texas Instruments wifi chip wl1251 |
| 19:09.55 | Pali | I still did not belive that there is AP support in wl1251... |
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| 19:13.49 | Pali | ping lxp |
| 19:14.24 | Pali | lxp, has wl1251 AP mode? |
| 19:14.25 | WizardNumberNext | Pali I am pretty sure, but cannot guaranty it |
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| 19:15.34 | Pali | lxp worked on wl1251 kernel driver, maybe will know something more |
| 19:15.51 | lxp | hi |
| 19:16.08 | lxp | not yet, but it should be possible |
| 19:16.21 | Pali | lxp, is there firmware with AP mode support? |
| 19:16.44 | lxp | i think there is one around, but i don't have it |
| 19:16.51 | lxp | you can always use softap |
| 19:17.07 | lxp | but it needs to be supported by the driver |
| 19:17.14 | Pali | I did not find any FW with AP mode... |
| 19:17.17 | Pali | what is softap?ň |
| 19:17.52 | WizardNumberNext | it is AP working on software only |
| 19:17.53 | lxp | i haven't tested it myself but i think most ap drivers works with hostapd nowadays |
| 19:18.14 | lxp | sry i meant most drivers supporting ap mode use hostapd |
| 19:18.42 | WizardNumberNext | not much of use, but I run my APs on RaLink RT2561s and RT3070 |
| 19:19.25 | lxp | hostapd supports mac80211 drivers -> wl1251 is a mac80211 driver |
| 19:19.51 | lxp | as far as i know the driver only needs to support a special ap mode which is nothing more than monitor mode+injection |
| 19:20.32 | lxp | but i haven't experimented with it |
| 19:23.43 | Pali | lxp, did you tried to upstream your changes in wl1251 again? |
| 19:24.33 | Pali | version of wl1251 in maemo kernel has still better power management as in upstream kernels or your packet injection version |
| 19:25.38 | lxp | no, i haven't finished the reimplementation which could eventually get accepted upstream |
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| 19:26.31 | lxp | are you talking about the 0.2 version or 0.1 version of my packet injection driver? |
| 19:26.57 | lxp | 0.2 includes some fixes which may affect power management |
| 19:27.29 | Pali | 0.2 |
| 19:28.13 | Pali | run bq27200.sh for current |
| 19:28.44 | WizardNumberNext | Pali: I think I might be wrong about this router - most probably this wireless predates wl1251 and I cannot seam to find it to support any SPI or I2C (don't remeber which bus it is sitting on) |
| 19:29.06 | Pali | SPI |
| 19:29.10 | MrPingu | WizardNumberNext: I can't find any info about Netgear DG834v2 is using wl 1251 |
| 19:29.36 | WizardNumberNext | MrPingu: it looks like I got it wrong |
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| 19:37.13 | lxp | Pali: this is interesting, if you tested in managed mode with fully activated power saving then there must be some change i haven't noticed... it's somehow sad that nokia didn't upstream the maemo changes for wl1251 |
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| 19:43.39 | WizardNumberNext | Pali, MrPingu: I am not sure if acx and wl1251 are the same devices or not - need to see on N900 schematics - get back after extensive search, if I would find what I am looking for |
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| 19:45.35 | WizardNumberNext | BTW where wifi chip is located on N900? |
| 19:46.11 | WizardNumberNext | next to SIM? |
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| 20:02.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: /hidden/docs/hw/Nokia_N900_RX-51_Schematics.pdf |
| 20:02.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | on maemo.cloud-7.de |
| 20:03.07 | WizardNumberNext | I already have schematics, but cannot p[rint it for some strange reason (is this one printable?) |
| 20:03.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | please never post full URL (to hide it from spiders) |
| 20:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno, i'd think it is, at least in some non-adobe pdf readers |
| 20:03.58 | WizardNumberNext | I won't post it anywhere - I wish to keep this copy where it is |
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| 20:06.21 | WizardNumberNext | looks like it is printable - printer just woke up |
| 20:06.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a component placement on last 2 or 3 pages |
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| 21:00.44 | fasta | Is the wifi chip on the N900 of high quality or something like that? I have another device which is 2 years newer and has much worse reception while it's even bigger. |
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| 21:01.26 | fasta | The one in my laptop is even better, but considering that it's only a phone, it's quite good. |
| 21:02.02 | fasta | I thought wifi chips were commodity chips now, but apparently not all are created equally. |
| 21:02.16 | fasta | It would be interesting to have scientific data on the various vendors. |
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| 21:33.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: what's been the suggestion to revive 2G data connectivity? |
| 21:34.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: what's been the suggestion to revive 2G data connectivity? |
| 21:34.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~ping |
| 21:34.55 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 21:35.44 | kerio | idk, reboot |
| 21:36.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | didn't you suggest killall ICD2 or sth |
| 21:36.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | or csd |
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| 21:50.45 | kerio | well, yes |
| 21:50.51 | kerio | restart both ICD2 and sscd |
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| 22:19.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | sscd, THANKS |
| 22:19.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's been the magic word |
| 22:19.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll try it in 10 min |
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| 22:37.55 | Guest16821 | Hello, I get from time to time “Internet Connection Failed” “Retry?” on my n900. Can I configure the n900 simply to retry without asking? |
| 22:41.24 | MrPingu | fasta: Noticed the same, wifi on N900 is way better than all other handhelds |
| 22:41.45 | fasta | MrPingu: who made the actual chip? |
| 22:42.02 | MrPingu | TI |
| 22:42.07 | MrPingu | wl1251 ;) |
| 22:42.37 | fasta | MrPingu: my atheros chip is better (but it's in a laptop) |
| 22:42.57 | MrPingu | fasta: with handhelds, I didnt mean laptops |
| 22:43.00 | fasta | MrPingu: are they the same package? |
| 22:43.04 | fasta | MrPingu: I understood. |
| 22:43.17 | fasta | MrPingu: I mean: can a laptop chip be put into a cellphone? |
| 22:44.30 | MrPingu | I don't know, I dont have enough knowledge of HW designing to answer that one |
| 22:47.01 | MrPingu | What I assume you can use any wlanchip on any motherboard |
| 22:47.38 | MrPingu | Doc: ^ |
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| 23:00.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | sorry, doc doesn't highlight here |
| 23:01.22 | MrPingu | anyway, HW design is your topic ;) |
| 23:01.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | the chips don't differ for cellphone |
| 23:02.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | antenna does |
| 23:02.17 | MrPingu | That's what I thought |
| 23:03.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | and for embedded you more and more prefer BT+WLAN combo chips |
| 23:03.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | bbiab, afk |
| 23:03.46 | MrPingu | Nah, it makes a2dp + browsing over wlan horrible :( |
| 23:04.07 | ShadowJK | it's separate chip on n90 |
| 23:04.09 | ShadowJK | n900 |
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