| 00:03.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | on given cause: |
| 00:03.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~autoaway |
| 00:03.55 | infobot | rumour has it, autoaway is We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. So please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, as there are over 800 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. In BX, /set auto_away off. /saveirc, or nick changes are just as annoying. |
| 00:05.35 | kerio | is BX bitchx? |
| 00:05.40 | kerio | i didn't know anybody still used it |
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| 01:11.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo autoaway |
| 01:11.26 | infobot | autoaway -- last modified at Thu Jun 2 00:34:33 2005 by blitzrage!~blitzrage@blitzrage.documenter.extraordinaire.of.asterisk; it has been requested 4 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 1h 7m 31s ago. |
| 01:14.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still see an occasional "too lame to read bitchx howto" in user details |
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| 01:16.11 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: ctcp? |
| 01:16.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | not really, just usual username |
| 01:16.52 | soviettrash | wtf is captain cheese pizza |
| 01:16.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | but maybe that's actually a year or two ago I last seen it |
| 01:17.16 | jon_y | hmm, no idea what the default bitchx username is |
| 01:17.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | soviettrash: eh? |
| 01:17.36 | soviettrash | nevermind |
| 01:17.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: maybe "I'm too lame to read bitchx manpage"? |
| 01:18.06 | jon_y | that is the actual username? |
| 01:18.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno, I never used bitchx |
| 01:19.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, I think I've seen that as username |
| 01:19.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | like yours is "enforcer" |
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| 01:20.16 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: I've been using that since forever |
| 01:20.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | which I guess is not your real name |
| 01:21.04 | jon_y | nope, far from it |
| 01:21.50 | jon_y | heh, gnome3 default on Debian is rather pleasant |
| 01:22.23 | jon_y | than again, I only get the default X desktop envrionment at work |
| 01:22.30 | jon_y | if you can call it that |
| 01:22.42 | jon_y | just floating xterm all around |
| 01:23.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr |
| 01:24.58 | jon_y | oh, did I mention it is over VNC? the machine is half way around the world |
| 01:25.18 | jon_y | lag bad lag in the UI, makes me feel tired after an hour of work |
| 01:26.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | vnc sounds nasty for that |
| 01:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | couldn't you do ssh x-forwarding? |
| 01:27.20 | jon_y | x-forward to my windows laptop? :) |
| 01:27.48 | jon_y | hmm, I should try that with Cygwin |
| 01:27.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, iirc cycwin and some other windows app can actually do that |
| 01:28.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | cygwin |
| 01:28.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | allegedly that other software is simpler and better than cygwin in that respect |
| 01:28.59 | M4rtinK | xming ? |
| 01:29.00 | jon_y | x forward over SSH is even worst, I did actually try that |
| 01:29.22 | jon_y | M4rtinK: I already have Cygwin installed with X, might as well try that :) |
| 01:29.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | xming, yep |
| 01:29.47 | jon_y | is xming free? |
| 01:29.52 | jon_y | and Free? |
| 01:30.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think so |
| 01:30.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~xming |
| 01:30.16 | jon_y | why yes it is |
| 01:30.21 | jon_y | on sf.net |
| 01:31.29 | jon_y | now to figure out if there is an actual NAT layer blocking |
| 01:31.39 | jon_y | well, I'll find out on Monday |
| 01:54.44 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: does it make sense to add cssu stuff into scratchbox? |
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| 05:27.58 | MetalGearSolid | Can anyone confirm if gTranslate 0.6.1 is currently working or not ? |
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| 06:00.41 | markmx | Hi, how I can create my own vanilla firmware from n900 with my condigs? |
| 06:00.57 | robbiethe1st | 'condigs'? |
| 06:01.38 | robbiethe1st | Check the first page of the backupmenu topic - BM's going to be the easiest way to take an image of your system, and there's some commands in there for creating a flashable rootfs image |
| 06:02.10 | markmx | ok, thanks ll check it |
| 06:09.23 | markmx | have to reboot for using it? |
| 06:10.17 | robbiethe1st | It's a pre-boot-environment tool, so yes |
| 06:10.24 | robbiethe1st | open keyboard when first powering on |
| 06:12.46 | markmx | coooool it's working :) |
| 06:18.11 | markmx | holy,,,,, robbie is it you?????? :))) cool soft man |
| 06:20.51 | robbiethe1st | Yeah |
| 06:22.03 | markmx | ok, so, now I have two files, for root and for opt, it's tar archives, if I want to reflash my dev I have to flash combined, then vanilla then install buckupmeny and unpack backup??? |
| 06:22.27 | robbiethe1st | Basically. |
| 06:22.40 | robbiethe1st | Or, you can flash a rootfs image that has BM installed |
| 06:22.46 | robbiethe1st | then restore from there |
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| 06:23.14 | markmx | cool man, thanks again :) |
| 06:27.00 | markmx | have you acc for donation? |
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| 08:32.34 | jonwil | hi |
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| 08:40.48 | beford | hi |
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| 09:15.24 | edchngtf | ~seen idont |
| 09:15.27 | infobot | idont <~iDont@dhcp-077-250-143-002.chello.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 22d 14h 34m 55s ago, saying: 'it's Friday :)'. |
| 09:16.03 | Estel_ | :/ |
| 09:21.16 | jonwil | ~seen pali |
| 09:21.17 | infobot | pali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 1d 22h 1m 5s ago, saying: 'freemangordon, do you know state of portrait keyboard?'. |
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| 10:36.10 | kerio | but then who was quit |
| 10:37.01 | markmx | just want to donate for robbiethe1st's soft :) |
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| 10:47.03 | jonwil | what soft is that |
| 10:47.05 | jonwil | ? |
| 10:48.57 | Skry | backupmenu |
| 10:52.56 | kerio | vi____: i ordered that battery, btw |
| 10:56.32 | jon_y | kerio: is kernel-power only maintained by 1 guy? |
| 10:56.48 | kerio | i s'pose so |
| 10:57.00 | jon_y | I have a minor patch that needs pushing |
| 10:57.15 | jon_y | fix build with newer binutils |
| 10:57.24 | jon_y | one-liner |
| 10:58.17 | jon_y | unfortunately Pali is missing |
| 10:58.34 | kerio | PM on TMO maybe |
| 10:58.35 | kerio | or an email |
| 10:58.38 | kerio | or a NoteServ noce |
| 10:58.40 | kerio | *note |
| 10:59.31 | jon_y | ~noteserv |
| 10:59.49 | jon_y | ~help noteserv |
| 11:03.06 | kerio | /msg noteserv@services. help |
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| 11:03.23 | kerio | no, wait |
| 11:03.26 | kerio | it's not @services. |
| 11:03.28 | kerio | for some reason |
| 11:03.41 | kerio | oh, it's memoserv |
| 11:06.06 | Luke-Jr | kerio: didn't you get the memo? |
| 11:06.19 | kerio | nope! |
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| 11:45.36 | f3bruary | just installed the new cutetube qml |
| 11:46.41 | f3bruary | I wonder why xtube still istn working |
| 11:51.55 | f3bruary | oh cool I fixed it |
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| 11:53.12 | f3bruary | thanks to jurgel on the forums |
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| 12:00.49 | kerio | f3bruary: oh you |
| 12:00.53 | f3bruary | :D |
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| 12:04.27 | f3bruary | kerio: may I ask where you from ? |
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| 12:34.11 | Sicelo | he's likely to be from Mars :P |
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| 12:54.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen robbiethe1st |
| 12:54.49 | infobot | robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@71-221-196-99.spkn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 6h 32m 3s ago, saying: 'then restore from there'. |
| 12:55.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 12:55.04 | infobot | somebody said backupmenu was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 12:58.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~logs |
| 12:58.58 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 13:04.18 | Sicelo | hmm, so we have at least two sets of logs for this chan? |
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| 13:50.50 | f3bruary | Sicelo: + me |
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| 13:59.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: obviously. why? |
| 14:00.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | emphasis on "at least" |
| 14:01.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | f3bruary: could you explain your last post? "+ me" doesn't make sense to me |
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| 14:04.59 | f3bruary | Sicelo> | hmm, so we have at least two sets of logs for this chan? |
| 14:05.04 | f3bruary | f3bruary> | Sicelo: + me |
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| 14:05.41 | f3bruary | my irssi logs all |
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| 14:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, probably each IRC client does |
| 14:37.12 | f3bruary | I don't think irssi does it by default, but I could be wron |
| 14:37.13 | f3bruary | g |
| 14:37.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and there's no way to tell which of those ~250 logs get published anywhere |
| 14:38.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | not even aunt google knows about all publicly available chanlogs |
| 14:44.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels like somebody sneaked a forkbomb into his todo list |
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| 14:46.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | or... do you know those nasty webpages that open child browser windows which open other child browser windows? My desktop looks quite like that, seems I can't close windows as fast as other topics arise that need new windows or tabs to linger around waiting for processing |
| 14:48.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | opens a bookmark directory "discarded/postponed/look here after retirement" |
| 14:48.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe I should rename it to "trashbin, please empty eventually" |
| 14:51.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | just for giving a figure: it sometimes takes me 20min of searching thru my web bookmarks for a particular link I know I got somewhere, until I finally make up my mind to open "edit bookmarks" and exploit the find/grep feature |
| 14:51.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | same for locating the right one out of 45 browser windows with sometimes almost ten tabs each |
| 14:52.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | often it's faster to google for the right URL and open the same window *again*, instead of finding the already opened one |
| 14:52.59 | Sicelo | yeah, by "at least", i was just referring to the fact that i have no way to know if there are other bots here taking logs |
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| 14:55.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | just reduced open windows from 45 to 37 |
| 14:55.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | took only 20 minutes |
| 15:03.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | wiki.m.o completely down? |
| 15:04.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, just usual weekend slowdown |
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| 15:08.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ another window closed, down to 36 |
| 15:09.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ \o\ /o/ \o/ duplicate with 2 tabs, down to 35 |
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| 15:44.25 | markmx | where is robbiethe1st? |
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| 16:30.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | markmx: see: |
| 16:30.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 16:30.26 | infobot | [backupmenu] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 16:31.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | markmx: robbiethe1st is only sporadically on IRC |
| 16:31.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | but - picking up on your pervious comment/request - there's a donation button on bottom of post#1 on that thread about BM |
| 16:34.34 | markmx | donated :) |
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| 16:51.13 | kerio | f3bruary: xvideos, if you have a flash blocker installed, gives you a "your browser doesn't support this website: [download link]" |
| 16:51.27 | kerio | and it's an avi that works well in Media Player |
| 16:51.54 | kerio | ...or so i heard |
| 17:03.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: how's life? |
| 17:03.50 | f3bruary | you talking about xtube kerio ? |
| 17:03.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: brkn? |
| 17:04.05 | f3bruary | I use cutetube for that not a browser |
| 17:04.12 | kerio | f3bruary: i don't know about xtube |
| 17:05.00 | f3bruary | kerio: was that a question or follow up on my previous xtube issue then ? |
| 17:05.03 | f3bruary | cause im confused |
| 17:05.22 | kerio | i was suggesting a website that doesn't require an extra program |
| 17:05.34 | markmx | we need more porn in this chat? |
| 17:05.36 | f3bruary | ah |
| 17:05.42 | f3bruary | markmx: more ? |
| 17:05.50 | markmx | :))) nevermind |
| 17:07.18 | f3bruary | kerio: oh so you install the flash blocker on purpose so you can open the link in media player |
| 17:07.35 | kerio | no, i install the flash blocker because flash player is a piece of crap |
| 17:08.06 | f3bruary | and xvideos is just a bonus that comes with it |
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| 17:10.12 | f3bruary | where u from kerio ? |
| 17:10.19 | kerio | it_IT |
| 17:10.25 | f3bruary | italiano |
| 17:11.25 | markmx | holy ho =_ |
| 17:11.28 | markmx | italia |
| 17:11.55 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: Hi Doc, all's fine brkn should be back home tomorrow so we can go full steam tomorrow onwards |
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| 17:29.29 | f3bruary | so who can recommend a good mp4 player for n90 |
| 17:29.32 | f3bruary | n900 |
| 17:29.58 | f3bruary | cause default often doesnt work or lags/stutters |
| 17:30.05 | f3bruary | so does mplayer |
| 17:30.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: good :-D |
| 17:30.32 | f3bruary | could be due to the quality |
| 17:30.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: tomoorow == doomsday |
| 17:30.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay, tomorrow* |
| 17:31.11 | thedead1440 | haha |
| 17:31.28 | thedead1440 | only metaphorically though :p |
| 17:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not quite sure what will happen |
| 17:31.56 | thedead1440 | does any higher authority know? |
| 17:32.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually *.m.o might go down, nobody knows |
| 17:32.22 | thedead1440 | its on random possibilities? |
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| 17:32.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's some "sekrit wisdom" inside Nokia and Nemein |
| 17:32.58 | thedead1440 | oh those sekrit stuff again |
| 17:33.07 | thedead1440 | NDA and all that |
| 17:33.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, just CBA to share info |
| 17:33.36 | thedead1440 | haha that's the secret NDA :p |
| 17:33.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet inside Nokia and Nemein there is no secrets around when contracts for hosting will ectually expire |
| 17:34.08 | thedead1440 | how could there be secrets for that? |
| 17:34.25 | thedead1440 | thinks time for another email to you-know-who :D |
| 17:34.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a mystery to 'ordinary mortals' like you or me ;-D |
| 17:34.57 | thedead1440 | hence we are ordinary mortals ;) |
| 17:35.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ferenc sent a mail regarding some niche detail about vcs.maemo.org SSL cert, 30 min ago |
| 17:36.03 | thedead1440 | yup read it |
| 17:36.29 | thedead1440 | waiting for the first response to it which would most likely be oh ok that can be added onto the agenda for next NDA meeting :p |
| 17:36.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I gather Nemein has no idea whatsoever about the amount of FUD (literally) in community regarding termination of hosting |
| 17:37.30 | thedead1440 | I am not sure of Nemein but I do know most hosters don't give cahoots unless pushed |
| 17:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not exactly nervous since I know we got proper backups and Nemein is working to migrate stuff to new servers, but what will happen the night from tomorrow to next day... Who knows? |
| 17:38.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict cahoots |
| 17:40.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | we might face a real downtime for *.maemo.org, possibly even weeks |
| 17:40.11 | thedead1440 | i hope not |
| 17:40.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | or we don't see any disruption at all |
| 17:40.24 | thedead1440 | the on-going wiki etc issues are already bad |
| 17:40.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody except Nemein seems to know |
| 17:41.06 | thedead1440 | do they actually know? |
| 17:41.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | if anybody knows then Nemein |
| 17:41.37 | thedead1440 | can't they be asked of what consequences they anticipate, if any? |
| 17:41.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course even they might face "oops, servers scrapped on hoster" on 2013-01-01 |
| 17:42.43 | thedead1440 | this is our mayan apocalypse moment :p |
| 17:42.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | since Nemein is providing system administration, not hosting |
| 17:42.53 | thedead1440 | who is doing the hosting then? |
| 17:42.55 | thedead1440 | logica? |
| 17:42.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 17:43.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 17:43.58 | thedead1440 | logica seem reliable |
| 17:44.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | so let's hope they got no order from Nokia to reliably shut down servers 2013-01-01_00:00UTC |
| 17:44.52 | thedead1440 | want to check with the hostmaster @ Nokia? :D |
| 17:45.00 | kerio | it's more likely that they got no money from nokia to keep the servers up after 2012-12-31_23:59UTC |
| 17:45.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | today? tomorrow? haha! |
| 17:45.10 | thedead1440 | now ;) |
| 17:45.16 | thedead1440 | send an email? |
| 17:45.23 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: is TMO on the wayback machine? |
| 17:45.24 | thedead1440 | or call? |
| 17:45.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: afaik not |
| 17:45.40 | kerio | the wiki? |
| 17:45.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 17:45.56 | thedead1440 | wiki is till july '12 iirc |
| 17:46.28 | thedead1440 | s/'12/'11/ |
| 17:46.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: what would change if we know about what happens in ~30h? Won't it just spoil the surprise? ;-P |
| 17:47.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | we can't change anything anyway |
| 17:47.07 | thedead1440 | haha unfortunately true |
| 17:47.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | (wayback) could somebody trigger an update? |
| 17:49.52 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: hehe even wayback say time is running out :D : https://archive.org/donate/?n=DonateBanner-timeisrunningout.png |
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| 17:59.17 | ShadowJK | If logica is in finland it probably wouldnt shutdown until after 2nd jan, unless someone programmed in a kill |
| 17:59.37 | ShadowJK | (since everyone will be drunk and hungover 31st - 1st) |
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| 18:03.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty awesome: random test URL: http://web-beta.archive.org/liveweb/http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1289836 |
| 18:03.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously "search" won't work as usual ;-P |
| 18:05.00 | thedead1440 | haha |
| 18:05.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | hell, I should donate |
| 18:07.32 | thedead1440 | it seems like you can upload? what does it mean? you can just put a URL and it triggers an update? |
| 18:09.48 | markmx | today is a day of donate :) I was :) |
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| 18:26.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | too |
| 18:27.08 | MrPingu | Hi |
| 18:27.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, need some leisure time before answering ivgalvez' mail about how to proceed with maemo infra |
| 18:28.11 | thedead1440 | good so communication is present :) |
| 18:28.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 18:28.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | he asked for something he doesn't know yet already exists ;-) |
| 18:29.05 | thedead1440 | :D |
| 18:29.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh, should check if my salary came in |
| 18:29.55 | thedead1440 | i didn't know HF are paying you :p |
| 18:30.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hahaha |
| 18:30.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | if anything then rather the other way round ;-) |
| 18:30.37 | thedead1440 | hehe |
| 18:30.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever, bbl o/ |
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| 18:37.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | last wiki snapshot on archive.org: 2012-07-10 |
| 18:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops 2012-06-10 |
| 18:38.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea how to trigger a snapshot |
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