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| 00:28.35 | SpeedEvil | kerio: wipe the flash enough times that you wear out the boot block. |
| 00:38.22 | kerio | SpeedEvil: hm, i thought ROMBL could still load an xloader from usd |
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| 00:39.08 | kerio | to be fair i suppose that it would still be bricked, we don't have an xloader to unbrick because of the signing |
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| 01:47.18 | bennypr0fane | hello, I'm having problems with my apt-get, somehting's messed up, but I don't know what the error msg means. Would you mind taking a look at it? here: http://pastebin.com/sFqvkkKu |
| 01:53.07 | Hurrian | Try to use regular apt-get. |
| 01:55.32 | bennypr0fane | Hurrian just did. apt-get update doesn't work, it suggests to run apt-get to fix that :-D |
| 01:55.52 | Hurrian | The DepCompareOp problem is known, just ignore it. |
| 01:56.50 | bennypr0fane | but it won't let me install anything unless I fix that problem, it seems |
| 01:57.42 | bennypr0fane | you mean I can't use FAM, only apt-get to install anyhting? |
| 01:59.33 | bennypr0fane | FAM always updates before going to install interface, and after this error it goes back to main menu |
| 02:19.55 | LaoLang_cool | apt-get -f install? |
| 02:20.39 | LaoLang_cool | oh, ignore me please |
| 02:21.16 | LaoLang_cool | I'm not sure if /opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-devel_dists_fremantle-1.3_non-free_binary-armel_Packages can be deleted |
| 02:22.01 | LaoLang_cool | If I were you, I will have a try ;p but I don't know what will happend |
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| 04:22.37 | NitaChan | I realize that development for N900 is mostly dead these days, but does anyone happen to know how to turn the camera flash LEDs on from command line? I've been trying to Google around, but the damn thing keeps returning completely bogus results |
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| 04:25.03 | merlin1991 | NitaChan: there are I think 2 flashlight applications in maemo extras, maybe there's something in the source you could use |
| 04:27.08 | NitaChan | Yeah, I just downloaded some sources and trying to check if I can find the magic.. |
| 04:28.21 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:28.32 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 04:28.38 | SpeedEvil | settings |
| 04:28.58 | NitaChan | So, dov4l should be able to toggle the LED? |
| 04:29.36 | SpeedEvil | something that can open the v4l device, hold it open, and perform the right ioctl will work |
| 04:31.30 | SpeedEvil | I'd love a frontend to the camera that launches on camera door open, and if pointed down (accel), turns on the flashlight |
| 04:32.25 | NitaChan | That shouldn't be too hard to do |
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| 04:43.23 | NitaChan | Now, any suggestions as to how to stream live video from N900 to an arbitrary computer? I can stream live video with GStreamer via udpsink/udpsrc, but that seemingly requires you to specify an IP-address you wish to stream to, but I wish to be able to stream from any random IP |
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| 05:13.47 | iluminator105 | after i flashed n900 sudo is asking for a password this is with nokia vanilla image |
| 05:15.13 | NitaChan | Yes, it does that. Install rootsh from repos, then use the command "root" to become root, not sudo |
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| 05:37.09 | NitaChan | Nice, now I can stream live audio and video in a Matroska-container over HTTP, finally! That means I can stream it to any mobile device with Matroska-supporting video player and to anything with VLC :) |
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| 05:44.04 | internetishard | Is the connection supposed to automatically switch back to internet from MMS after fMMS runs? |
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| 05:44.37 | internetishard | The fact that it doesn't on my phone means that it's randomly crippled from receiving emails - etc - and I have to go scout out what the deal is... |
| 05:45.28 | NitaChan | I suppose it should reconnect automatically, but I'm not sure. I can't remember anymore as it's been years since I actually used my N900 as a phone |
| 05:56.24 | internetishard | NitaChan: what you use as a phone? what you use the n900 as? |
| 05:57.00 | NitaChan | I do random projects with it. Right now I'm just planning to install it on the wall so that I can stream live audio and video from it over the web |
| 06:04.56 | internetishard | NitaChan: why use the n900 for that? why not put screens places and stream to them using computers, phones, and tablets? |
| 06:06.47 | NitaChan | screens places? |
| 06:07.05 | NitaChan | I'm not sure what you're saying |
| 06:07.33 | internetishard | you said you'll put n900s on walls |
| 06:07.44 | internetishard | use whatever LCDs you want whever you want... |
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| 06:08.06 | NitaChan | No, I don't stream video TO N900, I stream video FROM it |
| 06:08.25 | internetishard | Oh, from it's camera? |
| 06:08.48 | NitaChan | Yes, that's what I said: live streaming of N900's camera and microphone over the Internet |
| 06:10.35 | NitaChan | The N900 consumes very little power if one uses H/W-accelerated encoding, it's small, and the camera and microphone are integrated to it already, so it's quite perfect for that purpose |
| 06:10.57 | internetishard | how do you use HW-accel encoding? |
| 06:11.10 | NitaChan | GStreamer and dsph264enc - plugin |
| 06:11.36 | internetishard | I use mplayer to play songs on it, and I often want to slow them down (using '[' key in mplayer), but it starts clipping, like the CPU can't handle it |
| 06:12.04 | NitaChan | Yes, mplayer doesn't use GStreamer |
| 06:12.14 | NitaChan | Therefore it does everything in software |
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| 06:15.46 | internetishard | seems cool! you should post about it and make a pkg when you get it working |
| 06:16.30 | internetishard | I'd like to see images that we can flash our n900s with... Like people who have done different things with it, or want to have a default configuration to pass around, etc. |
| 06:19.43 | NitaChan | There's no sane way of packaging what I did since it's just a script for node.js |
| 06:20.01 | NitaChan | And it'd have to be customized anyways for whatever one plans to do with it |
| 06:20.07 | internetishard | so you could just hand over the script without your passwords and URLs? |
| 06:20.15 | internetishard | :D |
| 06:20.21 | NitaChan | There are no passwords there at the moment |
| 06:22.29 | NitaChan | I can pastebin the script if you really want it, but you need to install node.js and learn some GStreamer - settings to use it properly |
| 06:25.53 | NitaChan | http://pastebin.com/0Sv8P5Pa -- save it to e.g. stream.js, then run it with /opt/node/bin/node /path.to/stream.js, and then open the stream in VLC with http://your.phone's.ip.address:9001/ |
| 06:26.21 | NitaChan | Oh, and you need to install express for node.js for the script to work |
| 06:27.26 | NitaChan | Momma gonna go AFK, gotta take dogs out for poop. |
| 06:27.50 | internetishard | thank you! |
| 06:44.19 | AndrewX192 | has the maemo wiki been submitted to archive.org? |
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| 07:06.01 | NitaChan | Back |
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| 08:19.12 | iluminator105 | NitaChan, thanks |
| 08:19.47 | iluminator105 | after i reflashed i can't connect to wifi i get a network connection error which is strange |
| 08:20.30 | NitaChan | Reflashed what, exactly? |
| 08:20.36 | iluminator105 | n900 |
| 08:21.52 | NitaChan | No, what did you flash on it? A new kernel? MMC data? The root filesystem? |
| 08:22.35 | iluminator105 | NitaChan, long time not going get into it now....i will removing the connection and adding it |
| 08:22.45 | iluminator105 | story* |
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| 15:56.33 | RST38h | http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/26/mk802-ii-mini-pc-now-costs-as-much-as-raspberry-pi-model-b-lets-compare-them/ |
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| 16:27.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | incredible traffic today |
| 16:28.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: you spoiled it, we tried to keep this day's chanlog empty ;-P |
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| 16:32.45 | kerio | RST38h: you ruined it! |
| 16:32.46 | kerio | for shame! |
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| 16:47.29 | merlin1991 | really, how could you? |
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| 17:06.49 | vi_ | greetz |
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| 17:07.01 | kerio | 'sup |
| 17:07.13 | vi_ | not much. |
| 17:07.31 | vi_ | may have found a 1600mAh battery. |
| 17:08.19 | vi_ | also, where is the details I need to set up using n900 as a DUN modem over bluetooth? |
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| 17:08.42 | vi_ | that is, android>n900>internet |
| 17:08.54 | vi_ | r00t|home: ping. |
| 17:11.14 | kerio | vi_: are you sure you want DUN? |
| 17:11.16 | kerio | PAN is neater |
| 17:12.19 | vi_ | TBH I dont know what I want. I just need to make internet appear on mrs vi__ nexus 7 from her n900. |
| 17:12.29 | kerio | what can android do? |
| 17:12.35 | vi_ | any pointers? |
| 17:12.48 | vi_ | android can go suck a fuck. |
| 17:12.57 | vi_ | it is however what she has. |
| 17:13.07 | kerio | ok, whatevs, let's go with DUN |
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| 17:13.18 | kerio | vi_: are you willing to install potentially unstable software on your n900? |
| 17:13.31 | vi_ | it is the latest version. |
| 17:13.44 | vi_ | depends...how unstable? |
| 17:13.49 | kerio | meh, not much |
| 17:13.58 | kerio | luf's updated bluez |
| 17:14.11 | vi_ | has it got magic? |
| 17:14.16 | kerio | loads of it |
| 17:14.37 | vi_ | where do I find it? |
| 17:15.04 | kerio | http://merlin1991.at/~luf/bluez/bluez_4.99-2maemo2%2b0cssu1_armel.deb and http://merlin1991.at/~luf/bluez/libbluetooth3_4.99-2maemo2%2b0cssu1_armel.deb |
| 17:15.28 | kerio | before installing, sudo stop bluetoothd |
| 17:15.31 | kerio | after installing, sudo start bluetoothd |
| 17:15.34 | kerio | or reboot, whatevs |
| 17:17.54 | kerio | vi_: your n900 will appear to also be an audio sink - it's true, but you need some extra configuration to use it that way |
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| 17:18.56 | kerio | vi_: audio sink means that it can be used as bluetooth headphones |
| 17:21.23 | vi_ | oh...ok. |
| 17:23.13 | kerio | namely, you need a loopback module in pulseaudio and some minor dbus ritual |
| 17:23.21 | kerio | DUN should be working right now |
| 17:23.52 | kerio | if you want to try PAN you need a kernel that supports bridge interfaces and iptables |
| 17:24.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | is missing an option in friggin PA to playback audio files via earpiece |
| 17:24.40 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: ear*piece*? |
| 17:24.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | for listening to recorded phonecalls |
| 17:24.50 | kerio | HSP/HFP? |
| 17:24.54 | kerio | ew, that sucks |
| 17:24.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope |
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| 17:25.16 | kerio | if it's a2dp just, you know, open the file in Multimedia |
| 17:25.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | just want to listen to arbitrary audio as if it were a normal call |
| 17:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | holding N900 to my ear |
| 17:26.00 | kerio | oh, that way |
| 17:26.03 | kerio | hm |
| 17:26.20 | vi_ | ok, I installed that shit. |
| 17:26.23 | vi_ | now what? |
| 17:26.29 | kerio | vi_: rebooted? or restarted bluetoothd |
| 17:26.31 | int_ua | wait, doesn't it play audio through BT? Searching for my headset... |
| 17:26.42 | kerio | int_ua: he means the actual speaker on the front of the n900 |
| 17:26.46 | int_ua | oh |
| 17:27.00 | int_ua | hm, nice idea |
| 17:27.09 | kerio | int_ua: to be fair i'm not sure if it plays audio through non-a2dp headsets |
| 17:27.20 | kerio | vi_: at that point it's all an android matter |
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| 17:29.33 | vi_ | how do I make it 'dial'??? |
| 17:29.47 | vi_ | are there any droid users here? |
| 17:30.00 | kerio | vi_: iunno |
| 17:30.41 | vi_ | do i heed to install the bluetooth-dun package from the repo? |
| 17:30.47 | kerio | no, your n900 is set |
| 17:30.59 | kerio | you just need to "dial" from the other device |
| 17:31.19 | kerio | aka do the slightly magical AT invocation and then dial *99# |
| 17:31.33 | kerio | perhaps PAN would be easier actually |
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| 17:32.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends, I heard some devices do PAN only, other DUN only |
| 17:33.59 | vi_ | how do I make gthe bluetooth sound come out of the n900? |
| 17:34.13 | vi_ | the device is connected and playing. |
| 17:34.45 | vi_ | is pan easier? |
| 17:35.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, PAN is basically a LAN |
| 17:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | while DUN is a modem |
| 17:36.24 | kerio | vi_: "playing"? wtf |
| 17:36.31 | kerio | luf: how does one make audio sink work? |
| 17:36.43 | vi_ | doc |
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| 17:36.55 | kerio | for instance, the iphone only knows how to pan afaik |
| 17:36.58 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: I understand that. |
| 17:37.17 | kerio | vi_: do you have a capable kernel? |
| 17:38.11 | vi_ | latest thumb. |
| 17:38.33 | kerio | do you have busybox-power? |
| 17:38.39 | vi_ | yes |
| 17:38.58 | kerio | ok |
| 17:39.08 | kerio | in /etc/bluetooth/network.conf |
| 17:39.33 | vi_ | that file does not exist. |
| 17:39.35 | kerio | uncomment the Interface= line in [NAP Role] |
| 17:39.46 | kerio | then you botched the bluez install i suppose |
| 17:40.04 | kerio | hm, maybe not |
| 17:40.19 | vi_ | how the fuck can I botch dpkg -i l./*.deb? |
| 17:40.28 | kerio | iuno |
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| 17:41.10 | kerio | vi_: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2024141 |
| 17:41.28 | kerio | ignore the Script line for now |
| 17:41.31 | kerio | just the first two |
| 17:41.46 | kerio | then restart bluetoothd |
| 17:41.59 | kerio | you should have a "btnap" interface |
| 17:42.20 | kerio | as clients connect, they'll get bnep<x> interfaces, all bridged together so you shouldn't care about those |
| 17:42.51 | kerio | now follow any howto on how to share a connection on linux |
| 17:43.06 | kerio | the interface you have to share on is btnap |
| 17:46.26 | vi_ | you say btnap interface, listed wit ifconfig. |
| 17:46.46 | vi_ | ? |
| 17:46.53 | kerio | did you restart bluetoothd? |
| 17:46.57 | vi_ | yes |
| 17:47.02 | kerio | don't lie to me |
| 17:47.17 | kerio | hold on, do you have it? |
| 17:47.23 | vi_ | no |
| 17:47.30 | kerio | LIAR |
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| 17:47.43 | kerio | hm |
| 17:48.01 | kerio | vi_: check in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf if "network" is in the disabled plugins |
| 17:49.15 | vi_ | nope. |
| 17:49.43 | kerio | vi_: have you rebooted after installing the new bluez? |
| 17:49.54 | vi_ | twice. |
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| 17:51.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | network is NOT in your /etc/bluetooth/main.conf 4th line? |
| 17:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | here it is |
| 17:51.11 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: new bluez |
| 17:51.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 17:51.47 | kerio | vi_: can you try and do sudo brctl addbr btnap |
| 17:52.07 | kerio | hold on actually, how are you listing the interfaces? |
| 17:52.10 | kerio | you need to ifconfig -a |
| 17:52.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 17:52.28 | vi_ | yes |
| 17:52.46 | kerio | vi_: what does brctl show list? |
| 17:52.58 | kerio | the command is "brctl show" |
| 17:53.15 | vi_ | I do not have brctl |
| 17:53.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | so why don't you use backticks? |
| 17:53.28 | kerio | vi_: you said you have busybox-power installed |
| 17:53.32 | kerio | you son of a bitch |
| 17:53.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | like `brctl list` for example |
| 17:53.43 | kerio | no, `brctl show` |
| 17:53.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: speech |
| 17:53.57 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: he's full of lies! |
| 17:53.59 | vi_ | oops, wrong device. |
| 17:54.05 | kerio | ... |
| 17:54.08 | vi_ | installing bbp now. |
| 17:54.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: official |
| 17:54.12 | kerio | vi_: hostnames! |
| 17:55.04 | kerio | official what? |
| 17:57.34 | vi_ | just installed bbp with FAM. it autoremoved a bunch of critical stuff. |
| 17:57.39 | vi_ | FML. |
| 17:57.44 | vi_ | F FAM. |
| 17:58.04 | kerio | ~fapman |
| 17:58.04 | infobot | hmm... fapman is Faster Application Manager, an alternative to the bulky and slow one that comes by default on the N900 |
| 17:58.37 | kerio | infobot: no, fapman is a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it ever again |
| 17:58.37 | infobot | kerio: okay |
| 17:58.43 | kerio | ~fapman |
| 17:58.43 | infobot | i heard fapman is a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it ever again |
| 17:59.10 | kerio | infobot: no, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it ever again |
| 17:59.10 | infobot | okay, kerio |
| 17:59.19 | kerio | ~fam |
| 17:59.19 | infobot | somebody said fam was short for familiar |
| 17:59.40 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how do i make a #maemo-only factoid? |
| 17:59.43 | kerio | and how do i redirect? |
| 17:59.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo fam is <reply>see fapman |
| 17:59.59 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 18:00.32 | vi_ | goddamn. I never thought fapman could fubar eerything so fast. |
| 18:00.46 | kerio | there's a reason apt asks for confirmation |
| 18:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fam |
| 18:01.47 | infobot | from memory, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it ever again |
| 18:02.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~_default fam |
| 18:02.32 | infobot | methinks fam is short for familiar |
| 18:03.15 | vi_ | ok, i now have bbp |
| 18:03.38 | kerio | vi_: `brctl show` |
| 18:03.54 | vi_ | returns an error |
| 18:04.28 | vi_ | brctl: SIOCGIFBR: package not installed. |
| 18:04.32 | kerio | :c |
| 18:04.57 | vi_ | why the hell nothing ever works. |
| 18:05.17 | vi_ | what is supposed to create the network.conf? |
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| 18:05.48 | kerio | vi_: you |
| 18:06.23 | Belzebub | kraft: daddy? |
| 18:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbp-fff |
| 18:06.56 | kerio | vi_: maybe the kernel isn't good enough |
| 18:06.59 | kerio | i'd install kp52 |
| 18:07.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | can't you check lsmod? |
| 18:08.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | :3 |
| 18:08.13 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i'm not sure that network bridging is in a module |
| 18:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | something has to create bnep |
| 18:08.52 | kerio | bluetoothd should do |
| 18:08.58 | kerio | but brctl should be able to do that too |
| 18:09.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, a kernel module is doing that |
| 18:09.20 | kerio | oh you mean even higher |
| 18:09.27 | kerio | hm, the "bridge" module apparently |
| 18:09.42 | kerio | it's automatically loaded for me, though |
| 18:09.52 | kerio | vi_: modprobe bridge |
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| 18:10.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I said lsmod |
| 18:10.32 | vi_ | there is no module bridge. |
| 18:10.41 | kerio | your kernel sucks, install kp52 |
| 18:10.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | modinfo even |
| 18:11.14 | kerio | in the mean time, are you toying around with the android tablet to see if bluetooth DUN is doable? |
| 18:11.21 | kerio | because that one is definetely working *right now* for you |
| 18:11.34 | vi_ | she is on it. |
| 18:11.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | lsmod to see if it's already loaded, modinfo to see if it's available |
| 18:11.48 | vi_ | cruising the crapp store for spyware. |
| 18:12.02 | kerio | vi_: yep, the bridge module is in kp52 |
| 18:12.16 | vi_ | I will try DUN. |
| 18:12.44 | vi_ | Then I will grind 1 year off my lifespan trying to make PAN work. |
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| 18:15.03 | vi_ | droid users just dont give a shit about their OS being a giant spyware trap. |
| 18:15.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't PAN supposed to work since ages? even on stock? |
| 18:15.55 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: on diablo, maybe |
| 18:17.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN |
| 18:17.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 18:17.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe |
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| 18:23.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_DUN might have info even useful for android |
| 18:25.59 | kerio | vi_: remember that you don't need the "bluetooth-dun" package |
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| 19:43.23 | okias | Hello, is possible replace dpkg with newest compiled dpkg from debian? |
| 19:43.52 | okias | I having problem compile some new packages, which higher versions of dpkg... |
| 19:44.17 | kerio | okias: no you don't |
| 19:45.09 | okias | kerio: why? I need get new software to n900 without replace distribution... ;-) |
| 19:45.21 | kerio | you don't compile on the n900 anyway |
| 19:45.48 | okias | I heard something that apt/dpkg pretty heavy modifyied |
| 19:46.04 | okias | kerio: I compile in VirtualBox in scratchbox |
| 19:46.28 | kerio | and what's your issue? |
| 19:47.16 | okias | I used some debian based debian/ directory and want to compile it, but it use Multiarch |
| 19:47.27 | okias | and seems it needs few more things |
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| 20:06.05 | SpeedEvil | I compiled on the n900 |
| 20:06.30 | SpeedEvil | less painful than setting up an environment for small stuff |
| 20:06.45 | sardinimouspipi | hello |
| 20:06.57 | ShadowJK | compiles on N800 for same reason |
| 20:07.45 | freemangordon | SpeedEvil: it might be ok as POC, but I wonder how long it will take to comple the kernel or Qt :P |
| 20:08.02 | okias | SpeedEvil: too old core packages already :-( |
| 20:08.17 | okias | SpeedEvil: when I get some microSD, I'll move to NemoMobile... |
| 20:08.25 | SpeedEvil | from memory, about an hour |
| 20:08.45 | freemangordon | SpeedEvil: it takes ~ hour on my 4 cores |
| 20:09.05 | freemangordon | 3.2GHz |
| 20:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | in qemu? ;-) |
| 20:09.20 | freemangordon | compilers are native afaik |
| 20:09.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure about that |
| 20:09.34 | freemangordon | I am |
| 20:09.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
| 20:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yes, took >1h here too |
| 20:10.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 20:10.30 | merlin1991 | SpeedEvil: I hope you did it in a chroot |
| 20:10.41 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 20:10.47 | freemangordon | Qt is about 40 mins, the kernel about 25 |
| 20:10.55 | SpeedEvil | copy / to chroot |
| 20:11.03 | freemangordon | no way n900 will compile Qt in 1 hour |
| 20:11.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, kernel |
| 20:11.17 | SpeedEvil | apt-get install build-essentials |
| 20:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 20:11.40 | freemangordon | hmm, is a8 that powerful? |
| 20:11.41 | SpeedEvil | about an hour meant 20 minutes to 3 hours |
| 20:11.54 | SpeedEvil | I forget the actual time |
| 20:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | and when we talk about kernel, define what that includes ;-D |
| 20:12.05 | SpeedEvil | I think it was closer to an hour, |
| 20:12.15 | SpeedEvil | and just a kernel image and modules |
| 20:12.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | kernel might be fast, modules take ages |
| 20:13.09 | ShadowJK | Compiling kernel for my desktop takes an hour, but I mostly use the distro's .config, which includes everything and the kitchen sink |
| 20:13.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm compuerized kitchen sink, cute |
| 20:14.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only got a computerized flat door lock |
| 20:14.46 | ShadowJK | also the coffeemaker protocol |
| 20:14.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | and warm water from a digital heater |
| 20:14.55 | ShadowJK | and blinkenlights driver |
| 20:15.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | with 443MHz remote :-) |
| 20:15.30 | ShadowJK | only the 1 bit blinkenlights driver, not the new 4 bit one |
| 20:15.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay |
| 20:15.56 | ShadowJK | (pieces of hardware that there only ever existed one device ever, for less than a month) |
| 20:16.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, like cdc_phonet ;-P |
| 20:16.36 | SpeedEvil | also, -j2 made it 20% faster' IIRC |
| 20:16.40 | ShadowJK | no, there are many N900s |
| 20:16.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | once it's in linus kernel, you never get it out again |
| 20:17.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: but only one app ever used cdc_phonet I guess |
| 20:17.20 | ShadowJK | blinkenlight was a building modified for one weekend |
| 20:17.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | the test app |
| 20:17.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know |
| 20:17.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | cdc_phonet never been used at all |
| 20:18.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I might be wrong though on that one |
| 20:18.44 | merlin1991 | ShadowJK: in the vienna metalab we have a blinkenwall :) |
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| 20:23.54 | kerio | i read that as "methlab" and was worried for a minute |
| 20:34.03 | merlin1991 | hm don't know about those :D |
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| 20:48.07 | kerio | vi_: you said you had a 1600mAh battery? |
| 20:48.11 | kerio | where? |
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| 21:04.01 | vi_ | kerio: in my phone |
| 21:04.08 | kerio | where did you get it |
| 21:04.11 | kerio | tell me |
| 21:04.16 | vi_ | aliexpress |
| 21:04.36 | vi_ | let me calibrate it one last time to be certain. |
| 21:04.42 | freemangordon | vi_: hi |
| 21:04.49 | vi_ | hey FMG! |
| 21:04.57 | vi_ | happy xmas! |
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| 21:05.02 | kerio | vi_: are we talking about bl-5js? |
| 21:05.10 | vi_ | kerio: yes |
| 21:05.16 | kerio | which one is it? |
| 21:05.30 | freemangordon | vi_: enjoying the new -thumb? |
| 21:05.31 | vi_ | it is orange with lots of chinese writing on ot. |
| 21:05.58 | kerio | the one that claims 1700? |
| 21:05.58 | vi_ | I have not updated yet. |
| 21:06.03 | vi_ | possibly |
| 21:06.08 | vi_ | linky |
| 21:06.11 | freemangordon | kerio: link please |
| 21:06.12 | kerio | vi_: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1700mAh-BL-5J-Battery-for-Nokia-5523-5230-5230-Nuron-5800XM-5800-XpressMusic-C3-00-N900/312109846.html |
| 21:06.33 | kerio | "High quality Li-ion battery" |
| 21:06.38 | freemangordon | Total Price: |
| 21:06.38 | freemangordon | US $46.23 |
| 21:06.42 | freemangordon | nice :D |
| 21:06.42 | kerio | that doesn't look remotely like high quality |
| 21:06.55 | kerio | wat? |
| 21:07.01 | kerio | it's 9.94 for me |
| 21:07.10 | vi_ | That is the picture... |
| 21:07.10 | kerio | how much is the shipping to germany? |
| 21:07.28 | vi_ | worldwide for free if you take the slo boat. |
| 21:07.45 | freemangordon | shipping cost to bulgaria is 37.24 |
| 21:07.59 | kerio | ...aren't you german? wtf |
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| 21:08.06 | kerio | no you're not |
| 21:08.21 | freemangordon | kerio: no. never been :P |
| 21:08.31 | kerio | freemangordon: sorry for your loss in shipping deals |
| 21:08.37 | vi_ | heh |
| 21:08.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is going on with donations for board? http://hildonfoundation.org/supporters/ they get less instead more, iirc this total been ~2800 a week ago |
| 21:09.13 | freemangordon | actually there is a cost some 400 km from here |
| 21:09.18 | freemangordon | *coast |
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| 21:09.38 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: -249 |
| 21:09.43 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: they paid for some license |
| 21:09.43 | kerio | vBulletin License purchase |
| 21:09.48 | freemangordon | yep |
| 21:09.49 | vi_ | I will find my order and find the battery I ordered. You know the chinese will rip off a rip-off whle rip-off themselves. |
| 21:10.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, that's in with the donations? |
| 21:10.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | odd |
| 21:10.23 | teotwaki | I don't see the point of paying for vbulletin. |
| 21:10.24 | freemangordon | both credits and debits |
| 21:10.27 | teotwaki | I mean seriously. |
| 21:10.34 | freemangordon | teotwaki: we run out of time |
| 21:10.48 | teotwaki | Funny, I'm watching "Timeout" |
| 21:11.02 | freemangordon | no timeout for TMO :) |
| 21:11.06 | teotwaki | Anyway, freemangordon, running out of time? |
| 21:11.26 | freemangordon | reggie said he'll shut down TMO around 20 Jan |
| 21:11.31 | teotwaki | and? |
| 21:11.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: migrating to a free solution 'costs' us way more than the license |
| 21:11.42 | teotwaki | sardinimoi-away: please deactivate your stupid away nicknames. |
| 21:11.48 | freemangordon | not time to find FOSS solution and to migrate |
| 21:12.08 | freemangordon | *no |
| 21:12.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and not 'around' but 01-20 the latest |
| 21:12.57 | freemangordon | while keeping the functionality intact. at least that's my understanding |
| 21:13.05 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: :nod: |
| 21:13.19 | teotwaki | I'm fairly sure SMF has converters for every version of vB available. |
| 21:13.35 | freemangordon | teotwaki: there are some custom plugins aiui |
| 21:13.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | we got proprietary plugins |
| 21:14.02 | freemangordon | hmm, actually doc knows better then me :) |
| 21:14.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway even conversion is not an option when low on manpower and stuff *has* to work |
| 21:15.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a silly 2xx $ |
| 21:15.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | how much do you take the hour? |
| 21:15.41 | teotwaki | me? |
| 21:15.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 21:15.45 | teotwaki | Free, for maemo.org. |
| 21:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah |
| 21:16.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | deal, but not for tmo, for admin |
| 21:17.04 | teotwaki | I've paid those 250 many times over in bandwidth. |
| 21:17.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever, Reggie helps on migration, given we use vBulletin |
| 21:17.59 | teotwaki | sure |
| 21:18.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's just playing safe |
| 21:19.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | we'll atckle that issue later, when migration is done and everything running just like (or better than) before |
| 21:19.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | tackle* |
| 21:19.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | teckle? |
| 21:19.30 | teotwaki | tackle |
| 21:20.03 | vi_ | brb |
| 21:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | o7 |
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