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04:44.54bobofosho123Hello, is anyone home?
04:45.52bobofosho123Hello everyone-
04:45.53bobofosho123I currently own a Cyan Nokia N9 16g. I've had the phone for a about 4 months and have never had a data plan with my carrier active on the phone. For the record, I live in the USA and use T-Mobile, which uses the 1700 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G and HSPA+ data. Even though the phone is clearly compatible with the network for Internet I've had tons of issues properly configuring the phone to work with the data connection. I've
04:45.53bobofosho123already made sure the APN is set to epc.t-mobile.com and that the Access Point code (1234) is correct. I've spoken to reps at the highest level of tech support to see what the issue and they can't seem to find anything wrong, so now I'm coming here to see if anyone has any ideas. I've uploaded some screenshots of the settings for the data connection below:
04:45.53bobofosho123[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JGFZn.png[/IMG]
04:45.53bobofosho123[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JI2p6.png[/IMG]
04:45.54bobofosho123[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fS6F2.png[/IMG]
04:45.56bobofosho123The connection works intermittently, sometimes it'll work for a day, sometimes it won't work at all. Sometimes it'll load web pages halfway and then cut out, other times it won't sync properly with my email, Facebook, or Twitter accounts, etc. The problems seem to be random. FYI, I already know it works totally fine on wifi connections. If anyone has any ideas feel free to help. Thanks in advance.
04:45.58bobofosho123-Cheers, bobofosho123
04:46.00bobofosho123UPDATE: I forgot to mention a few other details, whenever I reboot the phone I get a text from T-Mobile saying "We see your phone doesn't have correct settings to access the Internet or send MMS. You will receive a message on how to fix this." After that, a screen appears asking for the access point access code, which is 1234, and then it comes up again twice and then it finally connects. However, it normally fails to
04:46.02bobofosho123properly connect to the data network, meaning I'm still unable to access the Internet.
04:46.29bobofosho123If anyone can help me out I would appreciate it.
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04:52.22DocScrutinizer05bobofosho123: /join #harmattan
04:52.35bobofosho123way ahead of you
04:52.36bobofosho123thanks
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05:23.30DocScrutinizer05friggin server password <user:password> user part is CASEsensitive >:-(
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08:14.34kerioDocScrutinizer05: hehe, i forgot to charge my n900 this night, woke up this morning and it wouldn't even show the led while holding the powerkey
08:14.54keriobut then i plugged in the wallcharger, and it booted in act_dead mode after ~20 seconds
08:15.04keriono, even less
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08:35.18kerioDocScrutinizer05: have you read the awesome idea fmg had to push the HAM fix?
08:35.31DocScrutinizer05yep
08:35.48freemangordonand?
08:36.10DocScrutinizer05as long as it works...
08:36.14Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: you don't by any chance know a nice wristwatch with firmware source code I can build with free sw? :P
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08:37.06DocScrutinizer05there's been that watch thingie javispedro built a interface for on HARM
08:37.22DocScrutinizer05analog and digital
08:37.27Luke-JrO.o?
08:37.44SpeedEvilthe ti watch
08:37.48SpeedEvilTI
08:37.57SpeedEvilI forget the name
08:38.06Luke-JreZ430-Chronos-915 - Chronos: Wireless development tool in a watch ?
08:38.32int_uakerio: HAM fix?
08:38.49kerioint_ua: something to allow normal users to still use the nokia repos
08:38.53kerioto do system upgrades
08:39.03freemangordonint_ua: nokia gpg key
08:39.07int_uaoh
08:40.03DocScrutinizer05the TI was nice too, but I think there also been another one
08:41.17Luke-Jrhmm
08:41.24DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: probably "nifty :-D" been what you wanted to hear, eh?
08:41.33freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: no
08:41.45DocScrutinizer05but it is!
08:43.15freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I wanted to hear whether you think it will work and how do you like the idea to "backdoor" a package into users' deviced
08:43.24freemangordon*devices
08:43.45Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2 ?
08:44.30DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I think it could work, though I haven't checked in depth. And I like the idea
08:44.49DocScrutinizer05since it's probably our only option anyway
08:45.02DocScrutinizer05yeah, metawatch
08:46.16freemangordonkerio: fmtx enabler is in both -extras and -ssu repos, I am afraid it being in -ssu won't allow newver version through -extras
08:46.37freemangordonwhat do you think?
08:47.05kerioi told you, there's no way i can think of to get a list of trust levels from HAM, so we can't really do an analysis from here
08:47.11keriowe need someone on PR 1.3 to check that
08:47.18freemangordonand in general - please, someone give an idea how to test that
08:47.18DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: duh, seems they dropped the analog one
08:47.19keriomore importantly, on PR 1.2
08:47.50keriofreemangordon: edit the maemo.org extras URL and key to use a repo we have to create for the purpose
08:47.57kerioand push the package there
08:47.58Luke-Jrhmm, IIRC MetaWatch has terrible battery life
08:48.44freemangordonhmm, could we use cssu-devel?
08:49.01Luke-Jryeah, a week tops lol
08:49.12keriofreemangordon: hm, i suppose so
08:49.12freemangordonit should be the same for CSSU device
08:49.21Luke-Jrwho wants to charge their wristwatch every week? XD
08:49.30keriooh, no it may not be the same
08:49.38freemangordonkerio: why?
08:49.42kerio1) cssu-devel has a higher trust level than nokia repos
08:49.46DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: every week was great. I heard you better charge every other day
08:49.49kerio2) HAM was changed in cssu
08:50.05freemangordonkerio: well, i'll edit that to match -extras
08:50.09Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: the eZ430 one claims it lasts 1-2 years
08:50.29DocScrutinizer05excuse me while I LOL
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08:50.42freemangordonkerio: and it is easy to downgrade HAM
08:51.05DocScrutinizer05the point is: you CANT get 2 years of standby with any form of connectivity
08:51.17Luke-JrI don't need connectivity <.<
08:51.21Luke-Jron my watch
08:51.30DocScrutinizer05well, then...
08:51.35freemangordonkerio: though it might be easier to just flash PR1.2
08:51.39keriofreemangordon: i'd still prefer that someone with stock everything checked
08:51.49freemangordon^^^
08:51.49keriofreemangordon: good point, we also need to check the fix anyway
08:51.50Luke-JrI just want to see the time
08:52.05keriofreemangordon: we can use cssu-devel as the repo, though
08:52.20freemangordonkerio: yes, to do the initail testing
08:52.25freemangordon*initial
08:52.38DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: for that I suggest stranglers: 40 million watches with a strap to sell
08:53.18kerioi would most definetely not suggest stranglers
08:53.23DocScrutinizer05if they would ever sell out, that would be the end of... be the end of... be the end of TIME
08:53.24keriounless you don't have a neck
08:53.25Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: can I change the firmware w/ free sw?
08:54.05kerioor unless you mean these stranglers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B4bsqYxwo0
08:55.41keriofreemangordon: make sure to also specify the cssu-devel gpg key fingerprint in variant-domains.xexp
08:55.58kerioand add a keychain with that key in the keys directory
08:56.09DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3knQCtDOa0
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08:56.24freemangordonkerio: TBH I am not sure I am the one to test that. I miss too much knowledge on apt
08:57.17freemangordonI think it should be you, Pali or merlin1991
08:57.20DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFoOie1CRuk
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09:04.08DocScrutinizer05kerio: >>Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.<<
09:04.39DocScrutinizer05no proper stranglers for me on tube
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09:05.07freemangordonkerio: what exactly gives me apt-cache policy?
09:05.21keriofreemangordon: that's the apt priority, it's not relevant to what HAM does
09:05.29freemangordon:(
09:05.37kerioDocScrutinizer05: have you tried Modify Headers?
09:05.55kerioadd an X-Forwarded-For and then an IP from somewhere outside germany
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09:10.33DocScrutinizer05kerio: is there a howto for dummies?
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09:17.40kerioDocScrutinizer05: probably
09:18.08DocScrutinizer05well, I'd need that
09:18.45DocScrutinizer05or I would start writing a python local proxy
09:19.09DocScrutinizer05or just use a realy relay somewhere in US or whatever
09:19.19DocScrutinizer05though those never really work
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09:29.50kerioDocScrutinizer05: nah, the beauty is that you tell youtube *you* are a proxy
09:29.54keriofor someone in the US
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10:13.21DocScrutinizer51kerio: I got that. But *how*?
10:13.37kerioinstall the Modify Headers firefox extension
10:13.43kerioif you use chrome, stop using chrome
10:13.45kerioand install firefox
10:13.51keriobecause it's better
10:13.55DocScrutinizer51mhm
10:14.13DocScrutinizer51chrome, haha
10:14.52DocScrutinizer51Konqueror here, but FF as secondary
10:15.09kerioi didn't know people used Konqueror willingly
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10:17.34DocScrutinizer51it's the only UI that nicely integrates filemanager with (s)ftp and viewer and editor and html renderer
10:18.36DocScrutinizer51ooh, also ark
10:18.43kerioyou make me sick
10:19.37DocScrutinizer51heh
10:21.26DocScrutinizer51it's a damn shame they dropped konqueror for this friggin dolphin in kde4
10:22.18DocScrutinizer51in konqueror I can even pick two alternative rendering engines
10:22.45DocScrutinizer51webkit and gecko iirc
10:24.04DocScrutinizer51look, in konqueror I seamlessly copy stuff from my N900 to cloud-7.de
10:24.33DocScrutinizer51and instantly watch the http result in another tab
10:24.57DocScrutinizer51even wget
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10:30.47kerioDocScrutinizer51: yeah but... KIO :s
10:33.19kerioyou could do the same with a "mv" with fuse
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10:41.59thedead1440is there a new build for ffmpeg on the n900? The one in the repos seems to be from 21/12/2009
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10:45.21TimoHey guys
10:46.05TimoOh, sorry, I would ask something about harmattan... Sorry! Joining #harmattan now ;)
10:47.07Hurrianthedead1440: http://maemo.org/packages/view/ffmpeg/
10:47.09Hurrianapparently not.
10:47.31Hurriandamn, that's a really old build
10:47.46thedead1440Hurrian: thanks
10:47.49Hurrian0.5svn in Fremantle versus 1.0.1 current.
10:48.21thedead1440yup thats why i couldn't get baseline in -vprofile as an option
10:54.13keriothedead1440: try mailing the maintainer
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10:56.28thedead1440kerio: done :D
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11:11.59Hurrianman, shitty day. N900 got stolen the one time I bring it out again.
11:12.20DocScrutinizer51dafaq!!!
11:12.28freemangordonHurrian: what? you have your n900 stolen? damn :(
11:12.34SpeedEvil:-\
11:12.38SpeedEvildamnit
11:12.50Hurrianfreemangordon, brought it out of my pocket to change the song, and it got snatched.
11:13.00DocScrutinizer51what an idiot lifts a N900?
11:13.07freemangordonhehe
11:13.19HurrianHad the missus and kids, didn't want to run after the thief.
11:13.28DocScrutinizer51you cant sell it, definitely
11:13.45SpeedEvilstupid people. :'(
11:13.58HurrianIt was black, shiny, and had a large touchscreen.
11:14.06DocScrutinizer51Hurrian: which town?
11:14.09freemangordonyeah. you have another one?
11:14.48HurrianWas in Cubao to attend the early morning mass.
11:15.15DocScrutinizer51cubao?
11:15.20HurrianPhilippines.
11:15.25DocScrutinizer51aah
11:15.55Hurrianfreemangordon: unfortunately not anymore, as I previously sold the other working ones. I still have some scrap N900 spares, but not entirely sure I can put together a working machine from the scraps.
11:16.27DocScrutinizer51well, if I ever go there, I'll chain the N900 to my wrist. And take my P99 with me
11:16.52HurrianI could buy cheap ones for ~US$60, but I don't feel like getting one in sketchy condition.
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11:17.32Hurrian"new" ones are still being sold for ~$500, but it's obvious they're "lightly used" devices
11:18.00freemangordon:(
11:19.37HurrianI'm playing with my N9 to relieve some of the stress, but it simply isn't the same.
11:20.29HurrianTime to dig around for one, I guess.
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11:22.54freemangordonHurrian: well, maybe push harder on forward-porting hildon-desktop :). Not that it will bring fmtx and uSD slot
11:24.04Hurrian<PROTECTED>
11:24.37HurrianOh well. I'll think on what to do, but I guess the N900 QEMU image will have to do for now.
11:25.08freemangordonHurrian: what functions newer glib lacks?
11:25.26Hurrianfreemangordon: not functions, it's the header files
11:25.50HurrianIIRC there was a post on tmo that described exactly the problem I was having
11:25.56freemangordonHurrian: but, but, .. did you try cordia one?
11:26.20freemangordonafaik that one should work
11:26.26HurrianNot the cordia ones, I didn't want to use GTK3 because it's half-broken.
11:26.33freemangordonaah, i see
11:26.34SpeedEvil'brand new' ones on eBay for $200. I guess these are HK refurbs
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15:21.27thedead1440got a mail from the ffmpeg maintainer:
15:21.34thedead1440It has been so long I couldn't even remember what Freemantle was. I stopped working on Maemo a long time ago.
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15:39.35merlin1991thedead1440: anything in that mail you can share in case somebody picks up on what you did?
15:39.55thedead1440merlin1991: he said good luck after that and hi before it :D
15:40.27thedead1440It has been so long I couldn't even remember what Freemantle was. I stopped working on Maemo a long time ago.
15:40.29thedead1440Good luck,
15:40.30thedead1440-Jeff
15:40.45merlin1991ah I thought that was from you :D
15:40.55merlin1991I missed the : :D
15:41.00thedead1440me? I'm no developer :D
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17:32.43tadzikdamn wagic. Sure, open a dialog which can't be closed and keeps downloading megabytes of data :/
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18:59.56zsolthello!how to import words to autocomplete dictionary?my goal is to import words from hunspell dict.
19:00.23zsoltbut got some errors with the headers
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19:32.28DocScrutinizer05hmm, good luck with that. dunno if it's even open
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20:03.40kerio~2119
20:03.40infobotThe key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
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20:32.40DocScrutinizer05hmm?
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20:39.57kerioDocScrutinizer05: needed that for a thing
20:44.24DocScrutinizer05qwazix_900: ping
20:50.56kerioDocScrutinizer05: should i buy a gta04?
20:51.12DocScrutinizer05dunno
20:52.32kerioholy shit it costs a ton
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20:59.07DocScrutinizer05the inevitable downside of small volume
21:00.27DocScrutinizer05qwazix: ping
21:00.36DocScrutinizer05oops
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21:01.30DocScrutinizer05qwazix_900: PINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPING
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21:17.48qwazix_900DocScrutinizer05: I saw your ping, I'll ping you back later, can't right now.
21:18.08DocScrutinizer05ok
21:18.14DocScrutinizer05see PM
21:18.17DocScrutinizer05aka query
21:18.29DocScrutinizer05also see qwazix
21:18.45DocScrutinizer05or /whois qwazix
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21:39.04okiasHello, anyone from screenlocker devs?
21:40.08tadzikfreemangordon?
21:40.29okiasquestion: if I replace classic lock with new lockscreen app, why old is not possible to remove? how can be avoided running old lockscreen?
21:40.50tadzikdefine: new lockscreen
21:41.16okiasqt-lockscreen
21:41.21tadzikah, then nevermind me
21:41.29okiasno, its my bad
21:41.30keriotadzik: still relevant
21:42.00okiasI tried remove something "system" but then even qt-lockscreen stopped work
21:42.31okiasand when I left it there, it sometimes "blink" before qt-lockscreen, sometimes qt-lockscreen isn't displayed correctly and is displayed old lock
21:44.00okias(dammit, I should start thinking before writing)
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23:19.42JZAhi anyone around?
23:19.59JZAI am not a debian guy, i want to search for a file within the packages in the repos
23:20.04JZAwhat would be the apt-get command for that
23:20.18JZAI am looking for the module that has utf8_heavy.pl
23:23.48ShadowJKapt-cache search foo
23:27.38JZAShadowJK: that will search me the package, but I need to look for the file within that package
23:27.45JZAI am looking for utf8_heavy.pl
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23:30.23JZAthis could be the module /usr/share/perl/5.8/utf8.pm
23:30.43JZAany perl guy know the command for the package manager
23:30.47JZAcpan
23:32.16ShadowJKhm, is it in perl-base?
23:32.58JZAwell I do have perl-base and is not
23:33.20JZAI found other issues about it, but I think is contained on the utf8.pm so a perl package manager can fetch the module
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23:35.40merlin1991JZA: you are looking for apt-file
23:35.47merlin1991but afaik it's not avaiable on maemo
23:35.49JZAIyeah
23:35.54JZAyeah
23:36.06JZAso no cpan and no utf8.pm?
23:36.26merlin1991but if you have the file on your device you can check which pacakge it belongs to via "dpkg-query -S $PATH"
23:36.43JZAI see
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