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| 04:11.20 | Sazpaimon | can anyone see if a package I built on harmattan will build on fremantle? |
| 04:12.26 | Sazpaimon | My laptop was stolen, and I can now only access my remote desktop to my headless desktop via my device |
| 04:12.53 | Sazpaimon | problem is I dont have a machine to run fremantle scratchbox on |
| 04:13.48 | Sazpaimon | and without a keyboard, rdp is pointless so I cant really use it on my N9 |
| 04:14.41 | Sazpaimon | the link in case anyone is interested: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binary?arch=armv7el&filename=libfreerdp1_1.0.1-1maemo1_armel.deb&package=freerdp&project=home%3ASazpaimon&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
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| 04:18.53 | Sazpaimon | in the meantime, presencevnc is good enough |
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| 06:06.11 | DocScrutinizer06 | ManoftheSea: if you neuter your USB's dataline, you will lose ability to reflash device |
| 06:08.49 | DocScrutinizer06 | ManoftheSea: the RF shielding cans can get opened like a cookie box, they have a lid you carefully pry off the body with a pinpointed small knife, strong needle, dentist tool or similar, by carefully unlocking lsatch by latch around the can for maybe 10min. Eventually the lid comes off |
| 06:09.11 | DocScrutinizer06 | best to start in one corner |
| 06:10.23 | DocScrutinizer06 | from corner to left first latch, then to right first, then to left 2 latches, then to right the first 2 latches. and so on |
| 06:11.24 | DocScrutinizer06 | eventually you see the first latch staying "open" (lid bent a tiny bit upward) |
| 06:19.44 | internetishard | lot less activity in here than just a few months ago |
| 06:20.19 | SpeedEvil | :'( |
| 06:20.37 | internetishard | indeed |
| 06:20.45 | internetishard | you carry two phones yet SpeedEvil? |
| 06:20.50 | SpeedEvil | hopefully traffic due to Jolla will pick up |
| 06:20.52 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 06:20.58 | SpeedEvil | still on n900 |
| 06:21.25 | internetishard | where you live? |
| 06:22.21 | SpeedEvil | Scotland |
| 06:22.30 | internetishard | Ah, so you get 3G |
| 06:22.55 | internetishard | I'm still looking for a provider anywhere near me that supports 3G or HSPA+ |
| 06:23.06 | internetishard | None do for n900 freqs |
| 06:23.19 | SpeedEvil | :-( |
| 06:23.25 | SpeedEvil | Canada? |
| 06:23.32 | SpeedEvil | I forget. |
| 06:23.34 | internetishard | Anyway... I'm thinking of a future with the n900 in my backpack for whatever |
| 06:23.38 | internetishard | SF |
| 06:23.45 | internetishard | tech central |
| 06:24.04 | internetishard | but I'll have to use some other phone for good service |
| 06:24.35 | SpeedEvil | planning on setting up my n900 as bridge to internet and storage for nexus 7 |
| 06:25.27 | internetishard | Why not pay for internet on Nexus 7, you'll probably get better speeds @ the same price |
| 06:25.46 | SpeedEvil | Wi-Fi |
| 06:26.58 | internetishard | I don't get it |
| 06:27.24 | internetishard | I guess so you can still make phone calls |
| 06:27.25 | SpeedEvil | it has no cell modem |
| 06:27.41 | SpeedEvil | tablet, not phone |
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| 06:36.31 | internetishard | I've a non-cellular ipad which I tether to the n900 |
| 06:43.03 | Sc0rpius | don't you have T-Mobile in SF? |
| 06:45.06 | internetishard | Yep |
| 06:45.09 | internetishard | I just ditched them |
| 06:45.20 | internetishard | they were charging 100$/mo for 2G for over a year |
| 06:45.25 | internetishard | while promising they'll support me "soon" |
| 06:45.31 | Sc0rpius | T-Mobile should work fine in 3G with an N900 |
| 06:45.36 | Sc0rpius | at least it does in Florida |
| 06:45.43 | Sc0rpius | since it uses 900 MHz in UMTS |
| 06:45.49 | internetishard | Yeah, I hear it does in some states, and I think it did in chicago when I was there |
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| 09:28.50 | RzR | hi |
| 09:29.20 | kerio | 'lo |
| 09:29.27 | RzR | is there a decent map app on n900 ? |
| 09:29.39 | kerio | map or navigation? |
| 09:29.44 | RzR | boths |
| 09:29.55 | kerio | modrana is fairly decent at both |
| 09:30.06 | RzR | because I plan to offer a gps device and so far I focus on lumia800 ... w/ nokia maps |
| 09:30.08 | kerio | and allows to download maps and routing data |
| 09:30.22 | kerio | what do you mean by "offer"? |
| 09:31.14 | RzR | xmass gift |
| 09:31.18 | RzR | :) |
| 09:32.04 | RzR | M4rtinK: btw i built emacs on n950 |
| 09:32.18 | RzR | gtk ui crashes but works in console |
| 09:32.28 | kerio | gift to who? :O |
| 09:37.19 | RzR | some regular non geek pple |
| 09:37.43 | RzR | http://rzr.online.fr/q/emacs# #EmacS 24 ported to #MeeGo #HarmattanDev for !n950Club , works in #terminal ( --no-w) but #GtK #Ui is crashing |
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| 09:44.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | WTF is that? |
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| 09:44.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | makes my eyes bleed |
| 09:45.10 | kerio | don't you love #hashtags? |
| 09:45.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | blaaeeergh! |
| 09:46.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc what use this is meant to serve |
| 09:46.24 | kerio | @DocScrutinizer05 #hashtags are the future man, get in the game! #oldgrumpymen |
| 09:46.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway if that's meant to be a valid URL, my IRC client doesn't get it |
| 09:47.22 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: the # at the end of the url is just an error i think |
| 09:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I have NFC where the "end of URL" is supposed to be |
| 09:49.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | #and #I #really #don't #get #the #use #of #"hashtags" |
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| 09:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | (now you're free to click on each of those and enter the according IRC channels XP) |
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| 11:38.20 | M4rtinK | RzR: good job ! :) |
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| 11:54.11 | RzR | M4rtinK: should I also merge your apps into shared repo ? |
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| 11:58.16 | Superpelican | Hello everyone, I recently bought a 2nd hand Nokia N900 |
| 11:58.21 | Superpelican | But I have a few questions |
| 11:58.53 | Superpelican | My first question is:is the Nokia N900 compatible with UHS-1 (Ultra High Speed) micro SDHC cards? |
| 11:59.09 | Superpelican | I mean, I doesn't have to fully make use of UHS-1 |
| 11:59.15 | Superpelican | But the card at least has to work |
| 12:00.06 | Superpelican | I would like to buy a Sandisk Mobile Ultra microSDHC 8 GB Class 6 |
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| 12:00.25 | Superpelican | Because it seems to have very good random write speeds |
| 12:00.36 | Superpelican | I'm planning to run alternative OSes of it |
| 12:01.00 | Superpelican | So random io is more important for me then classes/sequential |
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| 12:16.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask ShadowJK, he knows a few details about SD performance |
| 12:17.43 | Superpelican | @DocScrutinizer05:Thx for the advice |
| 12:17.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | just got dizzy from checking http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex/ |
| 12:19.07 | Superpelican | ShadowJK:Does the N900 support UHS-1 microSDHC cards? |
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| 12:23.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: basically why shouldn't it? I mean it's SDHC |
| 12:25.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | those should be compatible to all devices that can use SDHC, which N900 evidently can |
| 12:26.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDHC#SDHC |
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| 12:31.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | allegedly even 64GB SDXC cards work with N900, probably after formatting them to FAT32 |
| 12:31.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | speed however is a completely different story |
| 12:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: iirc ShadowJK claimed that 'old' class4 Sandisk are faster that all class10 incl new Sandisk cards |
| 12:33.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | faster than* |
| 12:38.04 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer:Looking at Sandisk Mobile Ultra CLASS 6 |
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| 12:53.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: I noticed that :-) |
| 12:54.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry if the knowledge I been able to share isn't matching what you looked for |
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| 12:57.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: in short: will it work? YES. How fast? You'll have to test for yourself. |
| 12:57.54 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer:Really thanks for all your help |
| 12:58.21 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer:Than I'll buy the Sandisk Mobile Ultra 8GB class 6 :) |
| 12:58.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | please report about your findings regarding speed |
| 12:58.59 | SpeedEvil | as I understand it, at a maximum clock of 25/MHz, so 12 megabytes/s |
| 12:59.21 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer:Don't have Windows :), so what should I use instead of CrystalMark? |
| 13:00.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | now THAT'S a really good question. Testing SD cards for speed is not exactly trivial |
| 13:01.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably benchmarking some real life app workflow would be best |
| 13:01.36 | SpeedEvil | indeed |
| 13:03.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | all generic tests are way too schematic and usually miss out on some relevant aspects for real life usecases |
| 13:04.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | and depending on parameters of your generic test your results may differ massively, to the point where with e.g. blockcount=1000 the card A is twice as fast as card B, while with blockcount=999 it's all the opposite |
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| 13:07.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | however there are some tools for benchmarking that are better than the average, alas I don't know which those are. And for sure you can't compare results of that particular tool to the results of any other tool around, usually |
| 13:08.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | you just can compare cards when tested under that particular tool, and depending on quality of the tool, it will more or less represent the real life experience with that card |
| 13:09.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui the classes of SD cards are just looking at sequential write and/or sequential read |
| 13:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | random write is what may differ most from what the class suggests |
| 13:12.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | otoh random writes are not exactly the most common usecase in real life |
| 13:12.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | (at least when mounted noatime) |
| 13:13.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: anyway welcome to the club |
| 13:13.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: enjoy your N900, and take good care about your USB receptacle |
| 13:15.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: you already reflashed to a clean state? |
| 13:16.39 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:No, didn't reflash |
| 13:16.50 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:Wiped all data and settings |
| 13:16.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | you probably should do that |
| 13:17.01 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:And installed CSSU |
| 13:17.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 13:17.18 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:Device runs fine |
| 13:17.28 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:I use SSH to transfer files |
| 13:17.43 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:I already read about microUSB problems before purchase |
| 13:17.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 13:17.59 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05:So I'm extra careful |
| 13:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | good |
| 13:18.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | depending on your favorite hobby you might consider reinforcing USB |
| 13:18.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix |
| 13:18.47 | infobot | hmm... usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
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| 13:19.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | reinforcing a working USB is low skill weekend job |
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| 13:30.44 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05 & infobot:Thanks, but I don't think I'm going to try that, I'm more of a software nerd |
| 13:31.01 | Superpelican | DocScruntinizer05 & infobot:I'm a bit clumsly with that kind of stuff ;) |
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| 13:31.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | then better don't try it, but keep in mind to look for opportunities to get it done eventually |
| 13:32.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw you don't need to thank the bot ;-) |
| 13:32.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 13:32.09 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) |
| 13:34.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | she's just listening to 'purl', otherwise you could actually thank her |
| 13:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks to purl we got those factoids anyway |
| 13:34.49 | infobot | my pleasure, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 13:35.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes she listens to infobot, or apt |
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| 13:43.35 | kerio | Superpelican: what made you buy a n900? |
| 13:44.24 | kerio | Superpelican: also, you might want to buy a USB AF-USB AF adapter eventually |
| 13:45.04 | Superpelican | kerio:I'm planning to buy a Jolla phone when they are released, but I wanted to sell my cheap Android phone right now |
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| 13:45.21 | Superpelican | kerio:Prices of new cheap Androids are dropping very fast |
| 13:45.43 | Superpelican | kerio:So I'll not be able to sell it for more than $40 in half a year |
| 13:45.54 | kerio | i see |
| 13:45.57 | Superpelican | kerio:So I decided that I needed a phone in the mean time |
| 13:46.14 | Superpelican | kerio:I wanted a phone that wouldn't drop in price fast |
| 13:46.40 | Superpelican | kerio:So I started searching for 2nd hand Nokia phones on a Dutch eBay like website |
| 13:46.42 | kerio | the n900 is already down |
| 13:46.57 | Superpelican | kerio:And then I saw a N900 very cheap |
| 13:47.07 | Superpelican | kerio:The N900 was always a kind of a dream phone to me |
| 13:47.17 | Superpelican | kerio:So I thought why not buy a N900 |
| 13:47.27 | kerio | how much did you pay for it, if you don't mind me asking? |
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| 13:47.41 | Superpelican | kerio:Plus they're unlikely to drop in price even more, because they're getting pretty rare |
| 13:48.01 | Superpelican | kerio:I paid 80 euros (shipping included) for a few months used N900 |
| 13:48.13 | kerio | Superpelican: neat |
| 13:48.20 | Superpelican | kerio:It's like new |
| 13:48.34 | Superpelican | kerio:Aside from some scratches on the screenprotector |
| 13:48.38 | kerio | i paid 150 before the summer, for a truly almost-brand-new one |
| 13:49.36 | Superpelican | kerio:I'm selling my Android for 60 euros now (Samsung Galaxy Mini) |
| 13:49.48 | Superpelican | kerio:Someone I know is willing to pay that for it |
| 13:50.07 | Superpelican | kerio:While I predict that in half a year I won't be able to sell it for more then 30 euros |
| 13:50.50 | Superpelican | kerio:And I was completely fed up with laggy, slow and boring Android |
| 13:51.06 | Superpelican | kerio:So while I wait for Jolla, a beautiful N900 eases the waiting! :) |
| 13:51.08 | kerio | i hope you'll be happy with the laggy, slow, and awesome maemo then |
| 13:51.25 | Superpelican | kerio:I haven't found the N900 lagging yet |
| 13:51.36 | Superpelican | kerio:Yes starting up apps can take a while sometimes |
| 13:51.45 | Superpelican | kerio:But I'm quite used to that and don't really mind |
| 13:51.54 | Superpelican | kerio:At least the UI is smooth |
| 13:52.02 | Superpelican | kerio:And I've true multitasking |
| 13:53.19 | Superpelican | kerio:Also I'm used to immediately closing apps when I'm done |
| 13:53.28 | Superpelican | kerio:I never have a lot running |
| 13:53.41 | Superpelican | kerio:Browser, music and something else at most |
| 13:54.22 | Superpelican | kerio:I don't need to have 9 apps running, so my phone gets slowed down |
| 13:55.19 | Superpelican | kerio:At first I thought about buying a N9, but I'd rather save the money for a Jolla device |
| 13:55.32 | Superpelican | kerio:And N900s are quite cheap |
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| 15:31.19 | ShadowJK | is surprised how "laggy" his quadcore 1g ram android tablet is compared to N900 |
| 15:34.06 | kerio | heh |
| 15:34.21 | kerio | n900 with cssu-thumb? |
| 15:37.22 | RST38h | ShadowJK: Can't beat N900 lag-wise |
| 15:37.42 | RST38h | ShadowJK: I have to wait for dozens of seconds for it to react |
| 15:38.01 | ShadowJK | kerio; no, standard |
| 15:38.10 | kerio | RST38h: your n900 has some problems maybe |
| 15:39.10 | ShadowJK | My android tablet, just running a single browser window with nothing open in it yet, can have 10 second delay between typing on vkbd and the vibration and letters on screen appearing |
| 15:39.15 | RST38h | kerio: same problems as everyone's |
| 15:39.25 | ShadowJK | I have to push N900 pretty hard before that happens on n900 |
| 15:39.31 | RST38h | ShadowJK: This is not normal |
| 15:39.43 | RST38h | ShadowJK: What brand? What firmware? |
| 15:39.51 | RST38h | suspects what is happening |
| 15:40.19 | ShadowJK | Asus TF700, android 4.1 something |
| 15:40.20 | kerio | i advise against pushing on the n900, you could risk damaging it |
| 15:40.28 | kerio | besides, it could deform, and it would look ugly |
| 15:40.28 | RST38h | Ok, I have got a TF700 here |
| 15:40.32 | RST38h | It never does that |
| 15:40.34 | ShadowJK | It doesn't always happen, but occasionally :) |
| 15:40.42 | RST38h | So it must be something running in background there |
| 15:41.31 | Ikarus | huh |
| 15:42.04 | ShadowJK | I hate myself for preferring firefox on android over "Browser" and Chrome :) |
| 15:42.30 | Ikarus | microB is the best :P |
| 15:42.34 | Ikarus | UI-wise atleast |
| 15:42.37 | Ikarus | it just feels right |
| 15:43.03 | ShadowJK | yeah |
| 15:43.41 | ShadowJK | keeps wishing for N900's touchscreen too |
| 15:44.33 | kerio | microb has an awful UI |
| 15:45.10 | Superpelican | hopes that Jolla will create the ultimate mobile webbrowser |
| 15:45.21 | kerio | Superpelican: that would be fennec :) |
| 15:45.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | suspects RST38h is running john on his N900 as screensaver |
| 15:45.49 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: meh, it would only use CPU, wouldn't it |
| 15:46.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | right, my bad |
| 15:46.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably he cought some spyware that records all of RST38h's mumbling and swearing all day long, and stores it to eMMC |
| 15:47.08 | ShadowJK | lol |
| 15:47.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | since actually only lag I ever see on N900 is at end of a call when recaller stores the record and tracker kicks in to index it |
| 15:48.08 | ShadowJK | Has anyone tried disabling ohmd and syspart stuff alltogether? |
| 15:48.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | for sure not |
| 15:49.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | major surgery |
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| 15:50.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | and tbh I first had to attend some lessons about that stuff, it came "after my time" |
| 15:50.18 | ShadowJK | should write scripts to see if over time things run into limits |
| 15:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: Superpelican asked about Sandisk ultra foobar SDHC |
| 15:51.25 | ShadowJK | I have no experience with it |
| 15:51.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 15:51.49 | ShadowJK | But I've been planning to buy a Sandisk UHS-I "android edition" microsdhc |
| 15:52.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMFG "android edition" - not really!! |
| 15:53.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's next? abill_uk edition? |
| 15:53.29 | kerio | you're just jealous that android gets microsds and you don't |
| 15:53.30 | SpeedEvil | I wonder if it means it supports trim somehow |
| 15:53.51 | kerio | heh, a uSD with trim would be awesome |
| 15:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | heh, I just heard/read UDXS supports extended features |
| 15:55.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | SDXC ? |
| 15:55.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs a break |
| 15:55.42 | ShadowJK | The A-data uhs-i I put in my N800 made night and day difference |
| 15:55.57 | ShadowJK | it sits happily at 400M swap used nd is still responsive |
| 15:56.46 | ShadowJK | "android" version usd seems have some vague marketing attached promising faster random i/o and better responsiveness |
| 15:56.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDHC#SDXC >>SDHC host devices do not test the new capability bits defined for SDXC 4.0 cards and thus cannot use the new features of SDXC, such as transfer speeds above UHS104 (104 MB/s).<< |
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| 16:15.29 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: great! |
| 16:20.28 | kerio | 400mb of swap? what the hell |
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| 16:21.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAH! https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/ |
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| 16:23.14 | Superpelican | DocScrutinizer05: :0 |
| 16:23.24 | Superpelican | DocScrutinizer05:That's terrible |
| 16:23.33 | Superpelican | DocScrutinizer05:For an independent Foundation |
| 16:27.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | also interesting that SD standard recommends a MBR and one (or more) partition(s) |
| 16:28.20 | kerio | what the shit, why would they do that |
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| 16:42.55 | ShadowJK | Basically it's specced to match whatever some specific version of windows, at the time, did when formatting |
| 16:43.31 | kerio | can we just use them as block devices? |
| 16:43.42 | ShadowJK | Kingston developed their own controller at one point, and it relies on that geometry and also that it's formatted vfat |
| 16:43.49 | kerio | hahahaha |
| 16:43.54 | kerio | ahahahahahahahaha |
| 16:44.07 | kerio | oh ShadowJK, you're killing me |
| 16:44.20 | kerio | "kingston", pfffffffffffhwhahahaha |
| 16:44.23 | ShadowJK | The FAT area is faster at small writes than the data area :) |
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| 16:45.14 | ShadowJK | but kingston is also the dumping ground for random controller+flash from random manufacturers, so it's not too common to see kingston controller in a kingston card |
| 16:45.26 | ShadowJK | dont know if they even use it anymore at all |
| 16:45.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: don't kill kerio, I already see him blue in the face |
| 16:46.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, actually it's Kingston, not you ;-) |
| 16:46.44 | ShadowJK | kerio; "I bought a high quality kingston card, it must be the card reader's fault it doesn't wokrk!" |
| 16:46.59 | kerio | hahahahahahahahaha |
| 16:47.10 | kerio | "high quality" next to "kingston" is hilarious |
| 16:47.48 | ShadowJK | All my PCs have Kingston RAM :-) |
| 16:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a related topic: what brand was it that required that mmc.ko patch to not permanently damage the card? |
| 16:49.22 | ShadowJK | i havent heard of that? |
| 16:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | you haven't? |
| 16:49.34 | ShadowJK | nope |
| 16:49.57 | ShadowJK | I know of patch to disable omap mmc driver's overly clever timeout code |
| 16:51.10 | Superpelican | kerio:Well my 1GB Kingston thumb drive has survived a little trip in the washing machine ;) |
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| 16:51.26 | Superpelican | kerio:That's why I bought a 8GB Kingston microSDHC |
| 16:51.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno, maybe this one: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mmc/msg16087.html |
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| 16:51.36 | Superpelican | When I was searching for a microSD for my phone |
| 16:51.51 | Superpelican | But now my opinion on Kingston is changing heavily |
| 16:52.22 | Superpelican | their SSDs seem to be very slow according to several tests, the random io of most of their microSD is awful |
| 16:52.44 | Superpelican | And they're not that cheap either |
| 16:52.56 | Aoyagi | Corsair for SSD, Transcend for SD is how I see it. |
| 16:53.11 | kerio | Aoyagi: you mean corsair for SSD, sandisk for SD |
| 16:53.19 | Aoyagi | No, hate Sandisk. |
| 16:53.30 | Aoyagi | Well, their cards anyway. |
| 16:53.46 | ShadowJK | the previous generation sandisk was awesome |
| 16:54.15 | ShadowJK | their class 2 performed better than kingston/transcend/etc class 10 |
| 16:54.17 | Aoyagi | No wait, that's wrong, I don't -hate- them. If it wasn't for Transcend, I'd prolly go with Sandisk. |
| 16:54.43 | Superpelican | is about to buy a Sandisk Mobile Ultra 8GB microSDHC for his N900 |
| 16:54.52 | kerio | Superpelican: to do what? |
| 16:54.58 | Superpelican | wait what, PREVIOUS generation |
| 16:55.12 | ShadowJK | :) |
| 16:55.13 | kerio | if you need space for OSes, you really want a card with good random read/writes |
| 16:55.27 | Superpelican | kerio:That's why I wanted to buy that card |
| 16:55.33 | Superpelican | It has very good random io |
| 16:55.47 | Superpelican | according to the benchmarks on the web |
| 16:55.55 | Superpelican | for exampel RPi forums |
| 16:56.26 | Superpelican | s/exampel/example |
| 16:56.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: I can't find it anymore, but I'm rather sure we already discussed it in CSSU |
| 16:56.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | so maybe Pali or FMG know what *I* meant ;-) |
| 16:57.00 | Superpelican | Aoyagi:Haven't seen any random io benchmarks for Transcend |
| 16:57.21 | Aoyagi | Neither have I. |
| 16:57.25 | ShadowJK | One funny thing with current generation cards (seen it both on recent sandisk and a-data) is that random writes are extremely fast on new card, but then perf drops off |
| 16:57.36 | Superpelican | Aoyagi:I have a 16GB Transcend USB, so I'm not disliking them or something |
| 16:57.43 | Superpelican | I just want to have good random io |
| 16:57.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: wait a minute, timeout mode? rings a bell it seems |
| 16:57.59 | ShadowJK | but is restored after writing card full of 0 |
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| 16:58.36 | kerio | ShadowJK: why 0, i wonder? |
| 16:58.42 | ShadowJK | the 32g sandisk I have can take about 2-3 minutes of random writes before it slows down to 2 IOPS |
| 16:58.51 | kerio | :c |
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| 16:59.52 | ShadowJK | Yeah I wonder if the controller stores data XOR 0xFF, and thus writing 0 would be same as erasing, and it then maybe adds it to free pool |
| 16:59.57 | ShadowJK | poor man's trim |
| 17:03.00 | kerio | have you tried with 0xFF too? |
| 17:03.31 | ShadowJK | no |
| 17:03.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | for somewhat obvious reasons :-D |
| 17:03.51 | ShadowJK | need a /dev/one to complement /dev/zero |
| 17:04.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's dev/zero but no dev/minusone |
| 17:06.12 | flux | there could be a seqfs |
| 17:06.23 | flux | cat /seqfs/0001011 etc |
| 17:06.46 | flux | although it would need some escaping to support /dev/zero, as you cannot have octet \0 in a file name :( |
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| 17:10.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: printf 0xFF >mmcfile; cat mmcfile >>mmcfile |
| 17:11.20 | Superpelican | So what do you guys recommend:a Sandisk 8GB Class 4 or a Sandisk Mobile Ultra class 6? |
| 17:11.26 | Superpelican | Which has better random io |
| 17:11.56 | Superpelican | According to RPi SD benchmarks class4 card was ok, but Mobile Ultra Class 6 was a lot better |
| 17:15.30 | Superpelican | ShadowJK:What do you recommend Sandisk class 4 8GB or Sandisk Mobile Ultra Class 6? |
| 17:15.47 | Superpelican | ShadowkJK:Will be used primary for running Nemo Mobile on N900 |
| 17:16.00 | ShadowJK | i have a class 4 and it was disappointing |
| 17:16.13 | ShadowJK | so I'd get mobile ultra, or the uhs-i cards |
| 17:16.15 | Superpelican | ShadowJK:I thought they were very good |
| 17:16.31 | Superpelican | ShadowJK:Mobile Ultra c6 = UHS-1 |
| 17:16.38 | Superpelican | At least he one I'm lookin at |
| 17:16.42 | ShadowJK | oh |
| 17:17.00 | ShadowJK | yeah I'm looking into getting one of the sandisk uhs cards myself |
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| 17:18.10 | Superpelican | is frightenend: http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Mobile-memory-professional-cards/MicroSD-Mobile-Ultra-8GB-is-NOT-class-6-Please-HELP-me/td-p/220668 |
| 17:20.00 | Superpelican | ShadowJK:Sandisk Mobile Ultra I'm looking at: SDSDQY-008G-U46A |
| 17:21.09 | Superpelican | Strange one the Sandisk website I can only find 4GB Mobile Ultra class 6 cards |
| 17:21.16 | ShadowJK | sandisk's class ratings have always been a bit arbitrary, like I said, I have a sandisk class2 that performs like other brand c10 |
| 17:21.17 | Superpelican | All the 8GBs are class 10 |
| 17:21.38 | Superpelican | Yeah but class rating = sequential |
| 17:21.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: rather for ((i=0; i<256; i++)); do printf '\377'; done >mmcfile; dd if=mmcfile bs=256 count=16G >>mmcfile |
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| 17:22.28 | ShadowJK | Superpelican; also it's minimum speed, not max |
| 17:22.37 | ShadowJK | though kingston and friends seem to use it as max |
| 17:23.09 | Superpelican | http://pct1.sandisk.com/ProductList.aspx?DeviceID=3324 |
| 17:23.22 | Superpelican | Compatible microSDs for the Nokia N900 according to Sandisk |
| 17:23.30 | Superpelican | only "normal" cards |
| 17:23.35 | Superpelican | no Mobile Ultra's |
| 17:24.14 | ShadowJK | lol |
| 17:24.17 | ShadowJK | bs :) |
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| 17:24.52 | Superpelican | Probably they're just meaning that UHS-1 won't work with N900 |
| 17:25.20 | ShadowJK | dunno, uhs-i card worked in my N800 |
| 17:25.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | uhs is a normal SDHC anyway |
| 17:26.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | or SDXC |
| 17:26.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-15 13:23:41] <DocScrutinizer05> Superpelican: basically why shouldn't it? I mean it's SDHC |
| 17:26.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-15 13:25:24] <DocScrutinizer05> those should be compatible to all devices that can use SDHC, which N900 evidently can |
| 17:26.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-15 13:26:52] <DocScrutinizer05> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDHC#SDHC |
| 17:28.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDHC#UHS_Speed_Class |
| 17:28.48 | ShadowJK | uhs adds new bus modes but still supports the old ones |
| 17:28.51 | ShadowJK | iirc |
| 17:29.18 | SpeedEvil | it requires lower voltage at the higher speeds too |
| 17:29.27 | SpeedEvil | - >25m |
| 17:33.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: new datarates and clock speeds, yes |
| 17:34.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | but they still support all the modes mandatory by SD spec |
| 17:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>UHS-I cards, specified in SD Version 3.01,[40] support a clock frequency of 100 MHz (a quadrupling of the original "Default Speed"), which in four-bit transfer mode could transfer 50 MB/s. UHS-I cards declared as UHS104 also support a clock frequency of 208 MHz, which could transfer 104 MB/s. UHS-I is the only class for which products are currently available.<< |
| 17:38.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | however >> SD cards other than SDIO (see below) have a "Default Speed" clock rate of 25 MHz. The host device is not required to use the maximum clock speed that the card supports. It may operate at less than the maximum clock speed to conserve power.<< |
| 17:38.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ergo -> each UHS card will work in standard devices |
| 17:39.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | at default clock speed |
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| 17:40.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: yep, higher speeds require lower voltages, but card needs to explicitly switched into that mode |
| 17:40.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs to be* |
| 17:41.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | each card comes up in single-bit 400kHz mode |
| 17:41.28 | M4rtinK | RzR: yeah, sure |
| 17:42.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | then device queries card's properties and switches card to whatever the device thinks it can support and wants to use |
| 17:42.09 | M4rtinK | RzR: just tge the right repos (I have some Fremantle & Nemo repos on COBS) |
| 17:42.16 | M4rtinK | *take |
| 17:44.00 | M4rtinK | RzR: this is the Mieru Harmattan package repo: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3AMartinK%3Amieru |
| 17:44.23 | M4rtinK | RzR: and this is the modRana Harmattan package repo: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3AMartinK%3Amodrana |
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| 17:50.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | M4rtinK: isn't that stuff for #harmattan ? |
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| 17:57.26 | M4rtinK | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, actually it is |
| 17:57.58 | M4rtinK | DocScrutinizer05: I just didn't want to break the continuity as RzR asked about it in this channel |
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| 18:44.47 | RST38h | Introduction of regular rotation system among containment personnel reduces suicide rate among task force members by 6%. |
| 18:52.58 | kerio | RST38h: wtf? |
| 18:53.05 | RST38h | ...remains of a colony of naturally-occurring nuclear reactors which, for a brief period during the Paleoproterozoic era (approx. 1700Ma), gained sapience and later became extinct. |
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| 19:15.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes thinks RST38h has no other business than searching whole day for most nonsensical citations he can find |
| 19:15.56 | kerio | does he do that often? |
| 19:16.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | every now and then |
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| 20:04.57 | zsolt | hi there.searching for an app,to plan Edinburgh bus routes.there is already one for android |
| 20:06.11 | kerio | write one |
| 20:06.33 | zsolt | from scratch? |
| 20:06.40 | kerio | sure, why not :D |
| 20:07.00 | kerio | also, is there a website for that? |
| 20:07.25 | zsolt | yes |
| 20:07.44 | zsolt | but it would be better to fit on my n900 :-) |
| 20:07.56 | zsolt | i'd like it offline |
| 20:08.40 | kerio | hm, offline routing for public transportation is a bit weird afaik |
| 20:08.50 | kerio | there's nothing for that in OSM |
| 20:08.56 | zsolt | tryed to install nokia public transport,doesn't work |
| 20:09.28 | zsolt | yes,there is,but can't remember to it's name |
| 20:10.43 | zsolt | there is an app for helsinki |
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| 20:57.05 | lnxmen | Hello |
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| 20:59.10 | lnxmen | FM Transmitter doesn't work for me // When I keep my N900 close to antenna I can hear quiet sound... |
| 20:59.51 | lnxmen | but N900 must touch the antenna |
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| 21:00.41 | lnxmen | I read http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56696 |
| 21:01.01 | lnxmen | I have no solution |
| 21:02.31 | lnxmen | my power_level is set on 120 |
| 21:03.09 | lnxmen | Everything is updated |
| 21:04.16 | qwazix | If you tune your radio to a station and then open the transmitter, the radio continues to play normally? |
| 21:04.23 | qwazix | or it goes silent? |
| 21:06.46 | lnxmen | it goes silent |
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| 21:11.52 | lnxmen | but I set Line DAC to 100 in alsamixer -c0 |
| 21:12.24 | lnxmen | without it nothing is transmitted |
| 21:15.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't have to mess with alsamixer |
| 21:15.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually that might already be your problem |
| 21:16.28 | lnxmen | okay, so I will set everything to default |
| 21:17.15 | qwazix | Sorry, I got disconnected and went to check the log |
| 21:17.31 | lnxmen | done |
| 21:17.33 | qwazix | That it goes silent it means that your hardware is ok. |
| 21:18.56 | nox- | http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/3768274/google-gmail-activesync-windows-phone |
| 21:20.23 | Aoyagi | Bah, active sync |
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| 21:24.04 | lnxmen | So signal fm is that lousy normally? |
| 21:25.11 | lnxmen | Nokia-N900:/var/log# cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/power_level |
| 21:25.13 | lnxmen | 120 |
| 21:25.40 | lnxmen | I can't change it... |
| 21:26.01 | Pali | lnxmen, do you have kernel power v5x? |
| 21:26.39 | lnxmen | How to check this? |
| 21:26.50 | Pali | $ uname -a |
| 21:26.54 | lnxmen | 2.6.28.10-power51 |
| 21:27.08 | ShadowJK | 's fm receiver can pick up n900 at 4m or so |
| 21:27.16 | Pali | in nokia kernel is power_level locked |
| 21:27.32 | Pali | in some kernel-power there is patch for unlocking power_level |
| 21:27.37 | Pali | see $ cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/lock |
| 21:27.50 | Pali | and try to write here '0' |
| 21:28.11 | lnxmen | wroted |
| 21:28.32 | lnxmen | sorry |
| 21:28.41 | lnxmen | I changed this value to 0 |
| 21:29.07 | Pali | then you can change power_level |
| 21:29.31 | lnxmen | Yes |
| 21:29.35 | lnxmen | I can change |
| 21:31.21 | lnxmen | What max value can I there write down? |
| 21:33.22 | Pali | max is 120 |
| 21:33.29 | lnxmen | I had it |
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| 21:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | isn't max 147 or sth odd like this? |
| 21:34.29 | Pali | no max is 120 |
| 21:35.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui it's audio level, not TX carrier signal level that causes the problem |
| 21:36.12 | lnxmen | What can I do else to improve my signal? |
| 21:36.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-15 22:11:52] <lnxmen> but I set Line DAC to 100 in alsamixer -c0 |
| 21:36.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-15 22:12:24] <lnxmen> without it nothing is transmitted |
| 21:36.26 | lnxmen | no |
| 21:36.37 | lnxmen | it was mistake |
| 21:36.42 | lnxmen | I can hear |
| 21:36.51 | lnxmen | but antenna must be touched to N900 |
| 21:36.58 | lnxmen | and sorry for my english |
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| 21:37.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got any cable plugged in to N900? |
| 21:37.30 | lnxmen | I'm charging |
| 21:37.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | stop that, unplug charger |
| 21:38.26 | lnxmen | and? |
| 21:38.33 | Pali | then you need modified fmtxd |
| 21:38.44 | Pali | which working with attached usb cable |
| 21:39.42 | lnxmen | okay |
| 21:39.58 | kerio | lnxmen: find a really free frequency |
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| 21:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | N900 attenuates FMTX signal to compensate for aerial gain from plugged cables |
| 21:40.24 | kerio | and accept that the fmtx *is* lousy |
| 21:40.35 | lnxmen | kerio: I have free frequency |
| 21:41.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1) enable fmtx when no USB or headset plugged in |
| 21:41.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2) see if signal has better level then |
| 21:42.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3) get patched fmtxd |
| 21:42.45 | Pali | what about including binary patch for fmtxd into cssu? |
| 21:42.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4) plug dangling USB cable to N900, since N900 can't detect a dangling cable but it boosts FM signal somewhat |
| 21:43.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: arguable |
| 21:43.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: actually it's not a bug |
| 21:43.52 | kerio | Pali: doubtful legal status |
| 21:43.59 | kerio | i vote yes, btw |
| 21:44.07 | Pali | bug is "fmtxd locking kernel power_level" |
| 21:44.26 | Pali | you need kernel power for unlock |
| 21:44.48 | lnxmen | is patched fmtx in repo? |
| 21:44.54 | Pali | no |
| 21:45.24 | Pali | it is here: http://jacekowski.org/Maemo/FMTXD1.3 |
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| 21:47.05 | lnxmen | Should I replaced this file with /usr/sbin/fmtxd ... |
| 21:47.43 | lnxmen | and chmod +x |
| 21:47.44 | lnxmen | done |
| 21:48.37 | lnxmen | should i reboot? |
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| 21:49.11 | kerio | lnxmen: stop fm transmitter, killall fmtxd to be sure, start fm transmitter |
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| 21:49.43 | lnxmen | I rebooted |
| 21:49.50 | kerio | boring :c |
| 21:52.07 | lnxmen | and now should I plug a USB cable? |
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| 21:54.57 | kerio | meh |
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| 21:55.58 | lnxmen | I can't hear the difference ;/ |
| 21:55.58 | Pali | I will create some C program for patching fmtxd |
| 21:56.30 | Pali | because in maemo there is no patch/binary patch utility |
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| 21:57.04 | kerio | Pali: just ship a generic binary patcher |
| 21:57.29 | Pali | bsdiff? |
| 21:57.38 | Pali | +bspatch |
| 21:58.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: actually the lock is in fmtx.ko |
| 21:58.15 | Pali | yes |
| 21:58.25 | Pali | but only fmtxd doing echo 1 > lock |
| 21:58.36 | Pali | and in kernel power there is also support for unlock |
| 21:59.08 | lnxmen | okay, I understand fmtransmitter works normally for me... |
| 21:59.47 | lnxmen | but it's seriously that lousy? |
| 21:59.52 | kerio | yep |
| 22:01.05 | Pali | kerio, are you using my new battery applet? |
| 22:01.06 | lnxmen | I will try it in car - may will be better |
| 22:01.11 | kerio | Pali: yes |
| 22:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf jacekowski! clean that spam on your blog |
| 22:01.18 | Pali | kerio, and no problems? |
| 22:01.27 | kerio | not that i can think of |
| 22:01.44 | Pali | because I found two bugs (stopped bme and loaded kernel modules without new hald-addon-bme) |
| 22:01.56 | Luke-Jr | Pali: what is bsdiff? better than xdelta3? |
| 22:02.10 | kerio | apart for the unnecessary load during startup |
| 22:02.22 | kerio | because of the silly dpkg check :< |
| 22:02.40 | kerio | Pali: i wouldn't know about that, i have the whole replacement pack installed |
| 22:02.40 | Pali | http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ >>> bsdiff routinely produces binary patches 50-80% smaller than those produced by Xdelta <<< |
| 22:03.01 | Luke-Jr | :o |
| 22:03.09 | Pali | Luke-Jr, but I never used that |
| 22:03.10 | Luke-Jr | wonders if he can convert xdelta patches |
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| 22:03.26 | Pali | I only know that bsdiff/bspatch exists |
| 22:04.00 | Pali | kerio, when hald-addon-bme is not used, applet report battery low when charging |
| 22:04.42 | Pali | and there is some race condition (due to reports from hal) that charging/discharging detection is not handled correctly |
| 22:05.03 | Pali | seems that both bugs are fixed, I will push new version to cssu-devel |
| 22:08.09 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, I want maemo wiki! Do you know any ETA? |
| 22:08.37 | Pali | who should be spammed for that? |
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| 22:10.20 | Pali | ping ShadowJK |
| 22:12.00 | lnxmen | thank you for your help |
| 22:13.11 | lnxmen | I'm gonna go to gym... Goodbye my masters |
| 22:13.15 | lnxmen | xD |
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| 22:26.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: (wiki) sorry, seems they won't do anything about it, since in a few weeks it's not their problem anymore |
| 22:26.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | "here, we fsckd it up fubar, now you can take it" |
| 22:26.56 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, do you know current situation? |
| 22:27.00 | SpeedEvil | :-\ |
| 22:27.04 | Pali | will be maemo.org migrated? |
| 22:27.19 | Pali | or nokia power off maemo.org servers and it will be end? |
| 22:27.48 | Pali | or has soembody access to servers (needed for backup/migrate to another server)? |
| 22:28.19 | kerio | more importantly, who's going to pay for it from jan 1st onwards? |
| 22:30.01 | Pali | and what will happen with garage? |
| 22:30.08 | Pali | and all projects? |
| 22:30.32 | Pali | note that only git repositories was backed up to gitorious... |
| 22:31.14 | kerio | is downloads.maemo.nokia.com going to be ok? |
| 22:31.34 | Pali | downloads.maemo.nokia.com not working due to expired GPG key... |
| 22:31.40 | kerio | Pali: it still works |
| 22:31.55 | Pali | but HAM (official SW) refuse to use it |
| 22:31.59 | kerio | oic |
| 22:32.04 | kerio | only ever uses apt |
| 22:32.26 | Pali | so links from OVI store not working |
| 22:32.39 | Pali | which means that OVI store on Nokia n900 not working anymore |
| 22:32.47 | Pali | due to expired gpg key... |
| 22:33.05 | kerio | is there someone who actually uses ovi store? :O |
| 22:33.21 | Pali | I do not know... |
| 22:35.48 | kerio | ovi store, aka the website where you download angry birds |
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