IRC log for #maemo on 20121120

00:02.49Drathirnice looks when played somthing in omp go to backround with ctrl backspace to app chose screen in background could see somthing funny moving pixels... but perhaps this is connected with open media player...
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00:04.55DocScrutinizer05fil: * has a relatively nice debug print iirc
00:20.38filDocScrutinizer05: I just need to work out the relevant incatations to get * to log into FS and let me dial in and out via there, and I can do some tests, but that can wait till tomorrow -- time for bed
00:20.58filhasn't touched * for about 6 years
00:21.45filactually, make that 8 or 9 -- time flys when you're having fun, eh?
00:26.29DocScrutinizer05actually my time flies when I'm bored
00:26.40DocScrutinizer05the days are endless, the years fly by
00:27.55DocScrutinizer05I think the subjective duration of a year is measured by the number of remarkable events in it
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03:49.33Devilinsidehow to use phoneme runmidlet swrvice to run any j2me??
03:51.46Devilinsideanyome there??
03:55.16kerioDocScrutinizer05: it's been fmg
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05:10.37Devilinsidehow to run j2me using phoneme??
05:12.25Devilinsidewhentrying to use run-midlet service , the only response is - waiting for midlet to start
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05:53.05Devilinsideis there anyway to run flash in iceweasel?? easy deb??
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06:10.45Devilinsideokay ... iceweasel isnt crashin n is even showing the starting of video wen /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin /libdebianflashplayer.so is replaced by our n900 adobe 10 flash.. can anyonw with hgh speed internet, confirm its working??
06:11.16Devilinside????
06:15.20Devilinsideokay the video skipped from 2 sec to 8second but its working. now trying for epiphany.
06:16.07Devilinsidecan anyone provide me with stock libflashplater.so
06:18.09Devilinsidehelp !! need flashplayer default one.. this adobe 10 is causing problems.
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06:55.37Devilinsidehelp!! epiphany is the newest version but it still is saying - epiphany , command not found
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07:25.19freemangordon:( valgrind does not like thumb2
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11:03.56vi_dafaq_is_this_madness.jpg
11:04.59vi_^my face when I see that the previous guy has the device polling the keypad for a button press in the middle of a timer interupt service routine.
11:06.54vi_Instead of waiting for the i2c busy flag to clear, he simply waits 40ms.
11:09.05trxlol
11:10.29jon_yvi_: he does audrino in his free time? :)
11:11.08vi_The real ball kicker is he was getting paid 25% more than I am now.
11:11.20jon_y:(
11:12.02jon_yI inherited Java code from a veteran that is obviously paid more than 25% than me, in the code, he did:
11:12.35jon_yif(obj instanceof class1).... if(obj instanceof class2) ..... if(obj instanceof class3)....
11:12.46jon_ya whole table of it, everywhere
11:12.55trxhaha
11:13.02jon_yalso, reimplementing your own tree structure
11:13.19jon_yhe needed to for check node properties
11:13.44vi_The GUI programmers here use some obsolete bullshit.
11:13.47vi_PASCAL.
11:13.54jon_yso adding another class can potentially cause the program to explode
11:14.06vi_lol
11:14.50jon_ystick a JVM/C# managed code to the PASCAL bootstrap code and call it a day :)
11:15.08ShadowJKvi_, adata random read/write has gone down dramatically after I used (read: benchmarked) the card for awhile
11:15.30jon_yShadowJK: how is that happening?
11:15.32ShadowJKI rebenched a sandisk, and it too did the same thing
11:15.44ShadowJKPresumably when it was fresh it was all empty, but now it's not
11:15.46jon_ycell fragmenation?
11:15.57ShadowJKAnd making it "empty" or erased again is tricky
11:16.25jon_ydo SD cards to wear control?
11:16.31ShadowJKSort of
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11:16.40ShadowJKhm, adata perf came back after I wrote all zeroes to it
11:16.45ShadowJKsandisk too :-)
11:17.00jon_yI would assume it was very very lazy with GC or something
11:17.04vi_ShadowJK: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your_card
11:17.07vi_job done
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11:17.22vi_ShadowJK: That is disappointing.
11:17.37vi_How much of a performance drop did you see after testing?
11:17.43vi_(as a percentage)
11:17.55vi_on 4k blocks that is.
11:18.00ShadowJKLast time someone reverse engineered an SD card, they discovered that the card is dividied into areas consisting of 1024 blocks, out of which 1000 are used and 24 spare. Whenever you write, it takes one of the 24 and uses that, and puts the old one back into the pool of 24 and erases it
11:18.11jon_ytry 64K blocks :)
11:18.42vi_ShadowJK: Do you have a link?
11:18.46ShadowJKabout 50% on adata and 10000 percent on sandisk :)
11:18.56jon_ythe most I did on an SD card was talking to it over serial
11:19.04vi_ShadowJK: So the sandisk utterly choked after being used once?
11:19.14jon_yI forgot what the protocol was called
11:19.43ShadowJKvi_, I'd say it reverted to its native speed after using up all empty erased blocks ( it might start out with 1024 erased ones, and can skip the erase step at first)
11:20.07jon_yyes, SPI comm
11:20.08ShadowJKWhen I first benchmarked the sandisk, I thought the results made no fucking sense, and that my method was probably broken.
11:20.16ShadowJKAnyway, have to run
11:20.46vi_ok.  Keep us posted!
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11:27.18kerioShadowJK: that was what i suspected :(
11:27.43kerioit's sad that a uSD that boasts high IOPS fails so hard :(
11:29.02jon_yfalse advertising 101?
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11:45.08ShadowJKWell, adata's degraded perf is still 10 better than that of the sandisk c4
11:45.32ShadowJKthe adata also timed out and vanished during benchmarking once..
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11:49.58vi_wow
11:50.10vi_adata is shittifyingly bad then?
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12:11.03vi_who uses a UWord16 to store a bool?
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12:11.06vi_WHY?
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12:11.56jon_yvi_: obviously they though it be more aligned to the machine word :)
12:12.19jon_ybecause memory is so cheap these days they say
12:13.45vi_One of the issues this device is facing is a lack of variable data storage.
12:14.49jon_ythese guys should really use the linker script
12:15.59jon_yits like a game of jigsaw puzzles or tetris when you try to fit the pieces together :)
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14:42.44vi____Yo
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14:45.56vi____~man iwconfig
14:45.56infobotNo manual entry for iwconfig
14:46.01vi____~man ls
14:46.01infobotNo manual entry for ls
14:46.05vi____~man man
14:46.06infobotNo manual entry for man
14:46.15vi____~2d6
14:46.15infobotYou roll a 6
14:46.20vi____yeah!
14:46.25vi____~2d6
14:46.25infobotYou roll a 9
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14:47.05vi____~!3
14:47.20vi____~2d7+4
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14:47.29vi____~(2d7)+4
14:47.44vi____~4+(2d7)
14:48.03vi____How to roll my +4 uSD card?
14:52.48tadzikaw, 2d6 giving one number?
14:52.51tadzik~3d20
14:53.10tadzikgrumbles
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14:54.33vi____~2d7
14:54.40vi____~2d6
14:54.40infobotYou roll a 6
14:54.43vi____~2d7
14:54.55vi____~2d5
14:55.04vi____~2d6
14:55.04infobotYou roll a 8
14:55.17vi____~2d6
14:55.17infobotYou roll a 9
14:55.32vi____Infobot can only deal with 6 sided di.
14:55.38vi____what a noob.
14:55.44vi____infobot: YOU ARE NOOB.
14:55.44infobotvi____: what are you talking about?
14:56.08jon_y~3d20
14:56.30jon_yinfobot hates d20
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15:26.51DocScrutinizer05dang, it's no command, it's a 'nifty' (or silly, stupid) factoid
15:27.04DocScrutinizer05~literal 2d6
15:27.04infobot"2d6" is "<reply>You roll a (2|3|3|4|4|4|5|5|5|5|6|6|6|6|6|7|7|7|7|7|7|8|8|8|8|8|9|9|9|9|10|10|10|11|11|12)"
15:27.41tadziknoooo
15:27.42DocScrutinizer05~factinfo 2d6
15:27.42infobot2d6 -- created by ckknight_ <i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com> at Mon Jul 24 01:59:47 2006 (2311 days); it has been requested 8 times, last by vi____, 32m 25s ago.
15:27.53Pali:D:D
15:27.57tadzikwhywouldyoudothat
15:28.40DocScrutinizer05~listkeys 2d
15:29.08hariainmare you guys playing D&D on IRC?
15:29.30DocScrutinizer05I'm trying to convince them not to do ;-P
15:29.42DocScrutinizer05also:
15:29.44DocScrutinizer05~query
15:29.45infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)
15:35.15vi____It is a well written factoid.
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15:36.17DocScrutinizer05~literal diceroll
15:36.17infobot"diceroll" is "<reply> $rand6"
15:36.47vi____~diceroll
15:36.48infobot5
15:36.58vi____$rand999999999
15:37.11vi____$rand6
15:37.25vi____~$rand999999999
15:37.31vi____$rand99
15:37.36vi____~$rand999999999
15:37.41vi____~$rand9
15:38.02vi____~$rand6
15:38.37DocScrutinizer05~say #maemo $rand200.3
15:38.47DocScrutinizer05damn you infobot
15:39.17DocScrutinizer05~#maemo rnadtest is <reply> $rand200.3
15:39.17infobotokay, DocScrutinizer05
15:39.26vi____infobot: I mock your value system.
15:39.27infobotYou mock your value system.?
15:39.34DocScrutinizer05~rnadtest
15:39.34infobot48.448
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15:40.16vi____~rnadtest
15:40.16infobot98.044
15:40.16DocScrutinizer05~forget rnadtest
15:40.16infoboti didn't have anything called 'rnadtest' to forget, DocScrutinizer05
15:40.29DocScrutinizer05~forget #maemo rnadtest
15:40.29infoboti forgot #maemo rnadtest, DocScrutinizer05
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15:42.18vi____~seen less than 10 penises
15:42.21infoboti haven't seen 'less than 10 penises', vi____
15:45.28DocScrutinizer05vi____: beware of annoying infobot so much that she's going to ignore you
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17:05.53freemangordonthats insane :(. seems like libosso-abook caches avatars
17:06.04freemangordon*all avatars
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18:45.31RzRhttps://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23HarmattanDev&src=hash
18:45.35RzRplease RT
18:45.41RzRto your nokia contacts
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21:19.12DocScrutinizer05wow, 265 users, 5 lines of posts in 3h
21:19.40DocScrutinizer05266 :-)
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21:25.26RzRlol https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HarmattanDev&src=hash
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21:45.43vi_...and in other news the test connectors on the n900 PCB are NOT uf.l.
21:47.37amospallaque sii
21:47.39amospallaque nooo
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21:47.52amospallawrong channel ...
21:56.18vi_Pali: ping
21:56.28Palipong pi_
21:56.31Pali*vi
21:57.04Pali*vi_ :D
21:57.14vi_heh
21:57.25vi_how do I mount an ubifs image?
21:58.06Paliwhere?
21:58.14Palidevice or pc?
21:59.01vi_I have extracted the rootfs image from the pr1.3 rootfs bin/
21:59.04vi_I have extracted the rootfs image from the pr1.3 rootfs bin.
21:59.37vi_I want to mount it so I can extract the contents.
21:59.42vi_On my PC that is.
21:59.59vi_I am running debian squeeze with a 3.X kernel.
22:00.57vi_Do I have to use nandsim?
22:01.21Pali$ modprobe nandsim first_id_byte=0x20 second_id_byte=0xaa third_id_byte=0x00 fourth_id_byte=0x15 parts=1,3,2,16,16,2010 && modprobe mtdblock && dd if=rootfs.jffs2 of=/dev/mtdblock5 bs=2048 && rmmod mtdblock && modprobe ubi && ubiattach -m 0 && mkdir /mnt/n900 && mount ubi:rootfs /mnt/n900 -t ubifs
22:01.39Palireplace rootfs.jffs2 and /mnt/n900
22:01.48vi_whoa, a one liner.
22:01.53vi_I was not expecting that!
22:02.46Paliwhen you finish, correct umount is: $ umount /mnt/n900 && ubidetach -m 0 && rmmod nandsim && rmmod ubifs && rmmod ubi
22:02.54Paliall run as root
22:03.06vi_I only need to mount it once to get the filesystem out.
22:03.28vi_I am able to roll my own rootfs fiasco images.

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