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| 02:47.01 | SpeedEvil | http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/25/rooted-motoactv-brings-web-browsing-and-angry-birds-to-your-wrist/ |
| 02:47.10 | SpeedEvil | (same hw as n900) |
| 02:56.55 | GeneralAntilles | Cazy |
| 02:57.28 | GeneralAntilles | s/Cazy/Crazy |
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| 03:01.38 | SpeedEvil | well, closeish |
| 03:12.14 | SpeedEvil | hah |
| 03:12.20 | SpeedEvil | note the USB socket |
| 03:12.33 | SpeedEvil | with through hole anchors |
| 03:13.21 | GeneralAntilles | Genius |
| 03:13.29 | GeneralAntilles | Too bad Nokia didn't think of it and patent it. |
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| 04:52.00 | kerio | the specs are better than the n900 |
| 04:52.03 | kerio | wifi n, 8gb of nand |
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| 05:44.13 | DJKillcrazy | O_O |
| 05:44.21 | DJKillcrazy | Wow, big channel |
| 05:45.22 | DJKillcrazy | Hello, I am a wanna-be N9 enthusiast. |
| 05:45.30 | DJKillcrazy | Can anyone help me? |
| 05:46.41 | wmarone_ | #harmattan |
| 05:47.02 | DJKillcrazy | Thanks |
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| 13:56.03 | fasta | How do I enable the lockscreen? The thing which normally requires swiping from left to right to unlock? |
| 13:59.19 | MrPingu | enable? |
| 13:59.51 | MrPingu | It should pop-up if you press the powerbutton, if locked |
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| 14:07.11 | fasta | MrPingu: yes, but it doesn't. |
| 14:07.54 | fasta | I also would like to replace the lockscreen with some other lockscreen, if possible. |
| 14:08.03 | MrPingu | qtlockscreen? |
| 14:08.16 | fasta | I tried the htc lockscreen, IIRC. |
| 14:08.21 | fasta | But it didn't actually do anything. |
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| 14:08.49 | fasta | I can also install qtlockscreen, but I am not so much looking to configure anything, but more to use something premade. |
| 14:09.10 | fasta | And for now, I am cracking the DES key on my phone :P |
| 14:09.32 | MrPingu | IIRC, there are premade configs available |
| 14:10.10 | MrPingu | My lockscreen doesn't show up on 1 press either, I always double or triple push the powerbutton |
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| 14:13.14 | fasta | Ok, that was easy to crack o.O |
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| 14:20.33 | fasta | MrPingu: I set QtLockscreen to 'sensation', but when I press the 'Lock screen and keys button', the screen goes black, but it's not locked. |
| 14:20.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | what do you expect of a 5-digit DES key? |
| 14:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could even brute force it manually, given you're a patient character |
| 14:22.01 | MrPingu | fasta: That sounds weird |
| 14:22.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | Lock screen and keys does exactly that: blank screen and lock input |
| 14:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't activate devicelock |
| 14:23.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, you're not talking about device lock either |
| 14:23.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what do you mean by "but it's not locked"? |
| 14:23.58 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: so, how do I lock it in such a state that I see qtlockscreen? |
| 14:24.11 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: or any lock screen, like the default one? |
| 14:24.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | do you say your screen goes black but still takes touch events? |
| 14:24.26 | fasta | I don't think it takes touch events. |
| 14:24.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | then it's exactly expected behaviour |
| 14:25.09 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: that's ok, but I still don't know how I get it to show this 'lock screen'. |
| 14:25.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | the 'lockscreen' with the slider is exclusively to avoid unlocking screen by accidentally preesing power button when screen blanked&locked |
| 14:26.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | so to see lockscreen you might lock device e.g. by locksliderswitch, then press powerbutton once |
| 14:26.49 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: what is locksliderswitch? |
| 14:27.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | the slider switch at side of device |
| 14:27.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | above headset receptacle |
| 14:27.30 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: excellent |
| 14:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | you slide it down to unlock/lock |
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| 14:27.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | it wil NOT show the lockscreen on unlock |
| 14:28.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | lockscreen ONLY shows when pressing power button |
| 14:28.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ...on locked device |
| 14:29.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | (at least that's how my devices are configured, I think you can tweak this behaviour in mce.ini) |
| 14:29.17 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, did you see the 20% off all future MetaWatch products? |
| 14:29.32 | javispedro | yep |
| 14:29.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: DUH!!! Alive :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) |
| 14:29.39 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: so, by default, it requires two user actions to activate. |
| 14:29.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: HI pal! |
| 14:30.16 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: but that does not include bastards like me who didn't buy the strata ;) |
| 14:30.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | fasta: lockscreen only shows on locked device |
| 14:30.39 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: yiiha :) |
| 14:30.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't make sense to show it on an actively used device |
| 14:31.01 | GeneralAntilles | I'm interested to see what it is they come up with for 2011 buyers |
| 14:31.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | fasta: usually devices auto-lock after a few minutes |
| 14:31.20 | GeneralAntilles | I queried them on Twitter about it. |
| 14:31.58 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: how do I really lock it (i.e. require some kind of code) for it to unlock? |
| 14:31.59 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, if I don't use a discount voucher you're welcome to it, though. |
| 14:32.13 | GeneralAntilles | Since sowatch changed my life. :D |
| 14:32.19 | javispedro | I will probably need to buy one in the future |
| 14:32.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | fasta: I use power button only to look up time |
| 14:32.24 | MrPingu | fasta: the lockslider on the side, skips the lockscreen |
| 14:32.34 | javispedro | 2 out of 4 pins are now rusted on mine :/ |
| 14:32.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | then immediately put back device to holster |
| 14:32.41 | MrPingu | DocScrutinizer05: smae here :P |
| 14:32.46 | MrPingu | *same |
| 14:33.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: creepy voltage? |
| 14:33.29 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, email Dave. He'll hook you up with a replacement. |
| 14:33.31 | fasta | What I don't get is that both qtlockscreen and the default are active at the same time. |
| 14:33.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: electrolytic stain? |
| 14:33.41 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: we'll see, they'lll probably follow you on that 2011-buyers-benefit-program, we can't be that many. |
| 14:34.01 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: along with human sweat :) |
| 14:34.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 14:34.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | insane to keep voltage on sth that has contact to skin |
| 14:34.34 | javispedro | supposedly they were not able to tristate or similar the pins on this design |
| 14:34.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | will etch off your skin too |
| 14:35.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | one with Na+ the other with Cl- ;-P |
| 14:35.59 | javispedro | fortunately I don't notice anything because the pins are actually slightly protruded inwards |
| 14:36.08 | javispedro | but there are some scary pictures on the forums |
| 14:36.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're lucky |
| 14:36.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | I's ue them outa the water |
| 14:36.34 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, seriously, though, if it stops charging contact Dave. |
| 14:36.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | never work again in my life (only for Americans) |
| 14:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd sue* |
| 14:36.55 | javispedro | :) |
| 14:37.53 | GeneralAntilles | By the way, how much extra effort is it to support STRATA? |
| 14:38.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: how's life? Long time no see :-/ |
| 14:38.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | fed up with maemo? |
| 14:39.07 | javispedro | did not had much time to play :( |
| 14:39.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh |
| 14:39.23 | javispedro | so, nothing new from my side |
| 14:39.51 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: supposedly it will be the same |
| 14:39.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | already though we lost you to whatever other team |
| 14:39.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | thought* |
| 14:40.18 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: tbh I am not happy with what metawatch is doing atm, with the surprise factor and all that |
| 14:40.35 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: no firmware commits for months despite the fact they are surely rushing right now |
| 14:40.53 | javispedro | they'll probably throw it over the wall when the first watches arrive |
| 14:41.30 | javispedro | so, no idea what exactly they will use the new hardware (aka more RAM) for |
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| 14:42.21 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: not yet |
| 14:42.24 | javispedro | :) |
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| 14:43.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | good to hear, though it's a pity when your work is as demanding as mine regarding time left over for #maemo* |
| 14:43.22 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: battery life with the latest firmwares has increased spectacularly on my watch; the strata is quite probably going to reach 2 weeks or so. |
| 14:43.36 | GeneralAntilles | Crazy |
| 14:46.04 | MrPingu | fasta: That's why I don't bother with qtlockscreen |
| 14:46.20 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: more like #* :( |
| 14:46.21 | MrPingu | Only eating extra memory |
| 14:46.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: indeed |
| 14:47.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: heard the latest bad news? |
| 14:47.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: seems I have to do 6 months @ jail err council |
| 14:47.51 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 14:48.59 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: you'll do better than some by not showing to work .... :/ |
| 14:49.00 | javispedro | hides |
| 14:49.39 | javispedro | *by _just_ not showing to work, I mean. |
| 14:49.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the plan ;-P |
| 14:49.54 | GeneralAntilles | Evil. |
| 14:50.13 | javispedro | I think that there's more pressing matters on the foundation side |
| 14:50.31 | javispedro | if nothing changes within 6 months there would be not community to "council" over. |
| 14:50.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | in fact my time available to assign to council topics is extremily limited |
| 14:50.53 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, foundation's got its work cut out for. |
| 14:50.57 | GeneralAntilles | it' |
| 14:51.24 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, get somebody to update the freaking council wiki docs. |
| 14:51.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | first I'm awaiting my sentence |
| 14:52.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | right now it's still the leaving council in duty |
| 14:52.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: what exactly needs update? |
| 14:53.08 | javispedro | iirc, didn't one of the "leaving council" members get a "get out of jail free" card? |
| 14:53.29 | GeneralAntilles | The list of hot topics hasn't been changed since I was on the council. :P |
| 14:53.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol, yeah, noticed that several times |
| 14:53.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe there are no hot topics anymore |
| 14:54.21 | javispedro | just put a script there that dumps the hot topics from TMO |
| 14:54.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeew |
| 14:54.44 | javispedro | so that you get things like "My whatscrapp login is broken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one" |
| 14:54.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 14:55.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | better tear down the whole wiki page |
| 14:55.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/better/rather/. |
| 14:55.57 | javispedro | nah, just remove the topics as soon as you raise to power |
| 14:56.33 | javispedro | btw, getting into business... |
| 14:56.48 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: do you have a link to the musb/mentor graphics datasheet? |
| 14:56.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 14:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, I doubt there's *anything* available |
| 14:57.25 | javispedro | thought that :( |
| 14:57.27 | javispedro | meh |
| 14:58.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | all info about fsckng mg musb been from OMAP TRM |
| 14:58.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | back when I did h-e-n |
| 14:58.25 | javispedro | http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=41826&postcount=72 |
| 14:58.28 | javispedro | ^^ saw that? |
| 14:58.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus some crappy press release level papers from MB |
| 14:58.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | MG |
| 14:59.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | DAFAQ fmg still active?? |
| 14:59.17 | javispedro | I know that you are not happy if it's OTG instead of real hostmode... but I suspect this might be easier to implement on the kernel. |
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| 14:59.38 | javispedro | (and since I have at most a few hours to hack on it...) |
| 15:00.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | it actually might work OOTB |
| 15:01.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least with OTG enabled kernel, and OTG is sufficently hostmody |
| 15:01.19 | javispedro | it doesn't, but I'm trying to figure out the changes |
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| 15:01.32 | javispedro | the ID pin comparator was gated, but I fixed that |
| 15:01.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey :-D |
| 15:02.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | trying to lure me into HARM tasks again? |
| 15:02.06 | javispedro | heehee :) |
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| 15:02.37 | javispedro | I got it to advance to a_idle, just by plugging the modded cable |
| 15:02.52 | javispedro | but then neither vbus pump starts |
| 15:03.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw (re your fmc post) that's not exactly a "simple cable mod" since I haven't found a 5wire cable with micro-usb plug so far |
| 15:03.36 | javispedro | I have one :) |
| 15:03.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh! |
| 15:03.48 | javispedro | they're sold on ebay |
| 15:03.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, where? |
| 15:04.05 | javispedro | they call those "samsung otg cables" |
| 15:04.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhmmmm |
| 15:04.16 | javispedro | seems that samsung is also not a big lover of the microa/b port duality |
| 15:04.30 | javispedro | so they just put microb ports and call it otg |
| 15:04.40 | javispedro | wonder why they usb guys didn't jump on them already |
| 15:04.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 15:04.44 | javispedro | *the usb guys |
| 15:05.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe they don't print a OTG badge on their box? |
| 15:05.49 | javispedro | heh, probably |
| 15:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI USB-cert rules don't forbid checking ID pin on usb_b and acting accordingly |
| 15:07.03 | javispedro | hm |
| 15:07.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | they just say that official OTG devices need a usb_a(/b) receptacle |
| 15:08.03 | javispedro | well |
| 15:08.23 | javispedro | I know that the musb can be configured to NOT trigger the gaia/twl4030 vbus pump |
| 15:08.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr, yep |
| 15:08.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably |
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| 15:08.52 | javispedro | we'll need to figure out how to do the entire vbus pump setup, with either your bq2xxxx scripts or using gaia |
| 15:09.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs kernel patches |
| 15:09.22 | javispedro | bq2xxxx certainly, but using gata might not need any change at all |
| 15:09.29 | javispedro | just check how bme reacts to that |
| 15:09.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | or a userland auxilary driver |
| 15:09.35 | javispedro | hopefully not by frying the device |
| 15:10.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | it WILL fry the device |
| 15:10.11 | javispedro | bme still seems to use twl4030 to do charger detect |
| 15:10.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | no kidding |
| 15:10.21 | javispedro | and IF twl4030 sense ID pin, then it NEVER reports charger detect |
| 15:10.31 | javispedro | not that I would test that theory on my device :/ |
| 15:10.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
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| 15:11.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | that'd be indeed a rather sane solution, almost as sane as when bme would switch bq24xxx from charging to boost mode on ID detect. Errr nope scratch that, will not play nice with OTG |
| 15:12.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: pali did a kernel driver for bq24xxx |
| 15:12.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | based on my original draft |
| 15:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 15:13.08 | javispedro | just integrating that with harmkernel is probably already out of my freetime slot :( |
| 15:13.13 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, yesterday I sent new version for upstreaming to LKML |
| 15:13.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: noticed that |
| 15:13.34 | javispedro | btw |
| 15:13.59 | javispedro | so, how long would it take to fry my device if shit happens (aka bme charges with bq2xxxx or gaia vbus pump active)? |
| 15:14.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I'm staying here for one more coffee, before I have to leave for RL |
| 15:14.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | (should've been gone 2h ago) |
| 15:14.29 | javispedro | haha |
| 15:14.59 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: feel free to leave, I know how vengeful RL can be... |
| 15:15.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: (how long) usual overtemp issues, so between several seconds and never |
| 15:15.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, much to excited to talk to you like first time this year |
| 15:15.42 | javispedro | because I'm thinking on testing and see what bme does |
| 15:16.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: basically the problem is when twl4030 chargepump power gets eaten completely by bw24xxx trying to charge |
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| 15:16.55 | javispedro | because I presume bme will disable bq2xxx pump, so the problem is only with the twl4030 one |
| 15:17.28 | javispedro | that's why I was trying to find out how I can disable the twl4030, which, according to docs, will turn on by itself on id sense |
| 15:17.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | possible outcome: twl4030 detects overcurrent and shuts down, bme detects bad powersource and stops charging, or twl4030 overheats due to overloading |
| 15:19.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: for a start you should be fine with simply stopping bme and waiting til bw24xxx 32s timeout |
| 15:19.40 | javispedro | !! |
| 15:19.41 | javispedro | MUSB_ULPI_USE_EXTVBUS |
| 15:19.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless the chip is actually entering emergency chage mode then, when seeing VBUS (from twl), and draws so much power that twl chargepump goes down |
| 15:20.11 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: can it enter emergency charge without charge detect? |
| 15:20.45 | ShadowJK | The only sure way is to tell it not to charge. |
| 15:20.46 | javispedro | USE_EXTVBUS looks exactly what I wanted |
| 15:20.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the idea, but for hw charger detect (d+- short) on N900 we got the 1707 |
| 15:20.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | since twl was broken re that |
| 15:21.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | (ext_vbus) :nod: |
| 15:21.13 | ShadowJK | without software control it reverts to eating 100mA on input side |
| 15:21.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: yep, but only if Vbat < 3.7V |
| 15:22.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: otherwise yep, to stop bq24xxx completely, you need to tell it to stay idle every 15s |
| 15:23.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | (coffee, bbl) |
| 15:31.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, this could've been the first on-topic convo in #maemo-hostmode-discussion since _ages_ |
| 15:33.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I guess some IRC channels simply die from obsolescence eventually |
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| 15:34.36 | javispedro | hey, #meego still has some people around :) |
| 15:34.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, 170 |
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| 15:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and a real 5 lines of convo yesterday |
| 15:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, thursday |
| 15:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yesterday nuttin |
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| 15:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: if you're interested - I still have a N9 here that's ready to test potentially dangerous stuff like that |
| 15:38.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what this device been meant for |
| 15:38.31 | javispedro | meh, I'm testing on N950, that's how much I appreciate it =) |
| 15:38.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehehe |
| 15:39.03 | Skry | Pali: does the bq driver you posted on mailing list differ from the one you have on gitorious? |
| 15:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | you fool, better sell it for 1800GBP |
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| 15:39.27 | Pali | Skry, no, it is last version from gitorious |
| 15:39.49 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: for testing what? |
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| 15:39.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | hostmode |
| 15:40.15 | vi__ | on n9/50? |
| 15:40.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | VBUS chargepunp/boost actually |
| 15:40.24 | Skry | Pali: ok, thanks. |
| 15:40.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 15:40.35 | vi__ | well damn. |
| 15:41.25 | vi__ | Pali: is there any chance your policy file for jack bias could stop tv-out working? |
| 15:41.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | not completely impossible |
| 15:42.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | tv-out is same jack pin as mic(-bias) |
| 15:42.19 | javispedro | just to remember, rm-680 is n950 and rm-696 is n9? |
| 15:42.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 15:42.30 | javispedro | google says so |
| 15:42.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | then yes ;-) |
| 15:42.49 | javispedro | patches both |
| 15:43.09 | Pali | vi__, my patch to policy file no, but you know that I disassembled binary file, so there can be problem |
| 15:44.00 | javispedro | curiously enough, the n9/50 kernel defines a 100mA power limit for boost |
| 15:44.02 | Pali | but I tested new compiled file in swi prolog interpretor and it had all predicats |
| 15:44.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | what you say is "not my changes but the disassembly process might have introduced bug" |
| 15:44.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | right? |
| 15:44.11 | masch|phone | hi. is someone using yappari? |
| 15:44.24 | Pali | vi__, so I think that problem is not here... |
| 15:44.35 | vi__ | Pali: ok, thank you. |
| 15:44.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: KP? |
| 15:45.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: err CSSU? |
| 15:45.13 | vi__ | my problem is tv-out would not work when I hooked my n900 up to my projector. |
| 15:45.28 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, disassembling can intruduce bug in way that some predicate is missing |
| 15:45.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: you're using CSSU-T ? |
| 15:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: yep, got that |
| 15:45.41 | Pali | but not that code of predicate was changed |
| 15:46.03 | vi__ | although my projector has strated becomming a bit flakey in its old age and I have not tried it on any other composite input. |
| 15:46.05 | Pali | but I tested if new compiled version has same predicates as old nokia |
| 15:46.18 | vi__ | I have cssu-t and kernel-cssu3 |
| 15:46.18 | Pali | and I also started ohm debugger to dump data |
| 15:46.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: you got me on your ignore list? |
| 15:46.24 | Pali | *on device |
| 15:46.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah |
| 15:46.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: in cssu-t you need to twiddle a bit with advanced tv-out settings |
| 15:46.47 | Pali | so I think disassembling was correct |
| 15:46.49 | vi__ | no, I am on the ol' n900 and typing stuff takes time! |
| 15:46.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't work on 100% zoom |
| 15:47.05 | Pali | default zoom is 90% |
| 15:47.15 | Pali | also try to change to pal |
| 15:47.29 | Pali | and click on enable button :-) |
| 15:47.29 | vi__ | well hal reported that video cable was inserted. |
| 15:47.55 | vi__ | dmesg said cable was inserted but nothing was coming out. |
| 15:48.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: also it seems you need to switch back and foce all settings of tv-out once, since the new applet doesn't sync automatically with old settings |
| 15:48.22 | Pali | cssu applet listening to HAL for changes |
| 15:48.29 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: interesting. |
| 15:48.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: so: change every parameter in settings-TV and store. Then revert to original settings |
| 15:49.04 | Pali | it check HAL property jack (there should be list where is video string) |
| 15:49.06 | vi__ | I must try it on other composite inputs before I can say for certain it is my n900. |
| 15:49.14 | Pali | also try to reboot n900 |
| 15:49.18 | vi__ | Pali: yes, it said video. |
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| 15:49.33 | Pali | vi__, and is cssu applet visible in menu? |
| 15:49.36 | Pali | status menu? |
| 15:49.52 | Pali | it is visible only when cable is connected |
| 15:50.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | mine been visible but didn't work until I switched to disabled and then back to enabled |
| 15:50.29 | vi__ | I cannot recall, I do not think so. |
| 15:50.46 | vi__ | let me just go test right now. |
| 15:50.48 | vi__ | brb. |
| 15:51.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: also keep in mind you need to frist plug cable to TV, only then to N900 |
| 15:51.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise detection fails |
| 15:51.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | first* |
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| 15:53.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | the hw is testing resistance from 3rd pin to GND. For TV plugged this should probably be >0 but <infinite |
| 15:53.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd actually guess it's 50R nominal |
| 15:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | for TV |
| 15:53.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | and 2kR for headset mic |
| 15:54.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | with cable not plugged in to TV it's infinte (open circuit) |
| 15:54.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | with headphones it's zero |
| 15:54.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka shortcircuit |
| 15:55.08 | vi__ | well fsck me. |
| 15:55.13 | vi__ | it worked. |
| 15:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 15:55.41 | vi__ | after redoing all the settings from the applet perhaps, I cannot be certain. |
| 15:55.57 | vi__ | i didnt test before. :/ |
| 15:56.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya you need to redo settings |
| 15:56.18 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer05: what would happen if both bq2xxxx and gaia pump were to turn on? |
| 15:56.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing bad |
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| 15:56.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | increased battery drain |
| 15:56.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | negligible |
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| 15:57.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and more power available on VBUS |
| 15:58.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | inclear though what chips' logic (esp any possible softstart) would say when there's already full VBUS when boost about to start |
| 15:59.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably no impact either |
| 15:59.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | worst thing to happen was an error condition of either of the both chips |
| 16:00.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | like "overvoltage" or whatever |
| 16:01.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | OTG HNP though will fail miseably |
| 16:01.12 | javispedro | yeah... |
| 16:01.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | as will OTG suspend mode |
| 16:01.31 | javispedro | still stuck at a_idle, even with bq2xxx |
| 16:01.34 | javispedro | pump |
| 16:01.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily we're not interested in either |
| 16:02.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 16:02.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | no auto ENUM then? |
| 16:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | you have set it to OTG in /proc or /sys ? |
| 16:02.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | (forgot where) |
| 16:02.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | since default state probably is "device" |
| 16:03.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, a_idle seems to indicate you did |
| 16:03.50 | javispedro | id pin sense did |
| 16:04.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise should be b_idle iirc, for "device" |
| 16:04.10 | javispedro | yep |
| 16:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: nonono, it still needs right mode |
| 16:04.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | it won't change from 'device' to 'OTG' mode automagically |
| 16:05.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo OTG >/*/mode |
| 16:05.27 | javispedro | mode is what returns "a_idle" |
| 16:05.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ummm |
| 16:05.45 | javispedro | the other one (that was on gaia's sysfs iirc on n900) is gone |
| 16:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang |
| 16:06.04 | javispedro | well, if it's not trivial |
| 16:06.12 | javispedro | let me enable debug output .. |
| 16:12.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: echo OTG >/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode |
| 16:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 16:13.23 | javispedro | oh, it works |
| 16:13.28 | javispedro | I mean, the write |
| 16:13.36 | javispedro | the rest is still stuck at a_idle |
| 16:14.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# echo hostf >/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode |
| 16:14.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode |
| 16:14.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | b_idle |
| 16:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# echo OTG >/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode |
| 16:14.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode |
| 16:14.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | b_idle |
| 16:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | original valid parameters to echo been 'host', 'OTG', 'device' |
| 16:15.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 16:15.43 | javispedro | lowercase |
| 16:16.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 16:16.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | coffee over |
| 16:16.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | no more excuse to procrastinate |
| 16:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbl o/ |
| 16:17.31 | javispedro | cya DocScrutinizer05 |
| 16:17.37 | javispedro | maybe next year ;) |
| 16:19.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | I seriously hope to not wait that long |
| 16:20.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might find a 15 min every other weekend |
| 16:24.21 | Pali | host[h|f|l] and peripheral is on n900 |
| 16:27.21 | vi__ | how hard would it be to change the policy that governs playing audio while on a phone call? |
| 16:28.07 | javispedro | meh, removing the gadget driver tears down usb _host_ support, how stupid |
| 16:28.19 | vi__ | I used ionice to give rtcom-call-ui realtime priority. Is there any reason I should do that? |
| 16:33.39 | Pali | vi__, first RE/disassemble libplayback library and alsaped daemon and then understand nokia pulseaudio, ohm, alsa, ... patches :-) |
| 16:34.23 | Pali | javispedro, some usb gadget (e.g. g_file_storage) must be loaded for usb host mode |
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| 17:29.15 | vi__ | Pali: let me put it another way. |
| 17:29.23 | vi__ | Pali: Il buy you a pizza. |
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| 17:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I think the missing docs and closed nature at large of audio handling on fremantle is one of Nokia's mortal sins |
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| 17:38.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | since, dang, it's a *phone* and a *mediaplayer*, and also maybe a recorder |
| 17:38.24 | merlin1991 | well if anything superior voice quality is the "secret sauce" on any phone |
| 17:38.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | voice quality not related to policy handling |
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| 17:39.21 | vi__ | merlin1991: what is this? 2001? no one uses 'phones' for 'phone-calls' anymore. |
| 17:39.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | not like if it's a secret thing at least |
| 17:40.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | there needs to be clear specs how any arbitrary audio app is supposed to either step back or take priority over e.g. inbound phonecall |
| 17:41.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | "we're doing that for you. You got game-audio-class, and system-audio-class - so smile and be happy" is kinda like telling devels "F U, don't dare to mess with 'our' audio" |
| 17:43.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I want finegrained config options whether ringtone is supposed to get played back via BT, via wired headphone, via wired headset, via TV-out |
| 17:44.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I want to decide whether inbound call stops camera, or camera stops inbound call |
| 17:44.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe inbound call just doesn't ring when camera active |
| 17:44.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | but still is signalling the call on display |
| 17:45.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | all that is not at all related to *quality* of call audio, but merely about policy management and handling |
| 17:47.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, I'm aware users _could_ mess up their call audio beyond usability by brainless meddling with those policies, but that's no excuse to lock it down and not document it |
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| 17:56.20 | vi__ | knowing my luck I would insert the jack to go handsfree on the call only for open media player to resume flooding my conversation with the sounds of pornography. |
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| 18:00.22 | SpeedEvil | http://www.cmw.me/?q=node/55 DocScrutinizer05 n900ish watch |
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| 18:00.35 | SpeedEvil | note the USB soldering |
| 18:03.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: that page sucks on loading - stalls at 85% |
| 18:05.52 | SpeedEvil | odd. wfm |
| 18:05.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it rapes my CPU |
| 18:06.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | could there be some fsckdup js video player or sth on that page? |
| 18:06.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | or a virus? |
| 18:07.21 | SpeedEvil | dunnp. loads OK on my tablet |
| 18:09.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, the virus will work on your standard browser. It's not designed to rape CPU by default and thus give away about own existence ;-) |
| 18:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm using Konqueror and it rapes both cores of my 2.3GHz CPU to 50%, about 3/4 of that being system(! :-o ) |
| 18:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it really stalls at 89%, showing a partially loaded page (second gfx object from top is a black blob) |
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| 18:13.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | so alas no soldering I could view |
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| 18:13.53 | vi__ | use a real browser. |
| 18:14.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | why? to allow the virus to rape my PC properly? |
| 18:14.34 | SpeedEvil | chrome/n7 here |
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| 18:16.41 | vi__ | links2 in svga framebuffer here. |
| 18:16.49 | vi__ | I can view gifs. |
| 18:17.21 | vi__ | w3m on a braille keyboard here. |
| 18:27.53 | joga | can you feel gifs |
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| 19:32.54 | freemangordon | vi__: I am cursed to stuck with windoze :( |
| 19:33.33 | freemangordon | debian (both wheezy and stable) won't boot without acpi=off |
| 19:33.56 | freemangordon | leaving me with only one core from 4 |
| 19:35.15 | Pali | freemangordon, what happen if you booth without acpi=off? |
| 19:35.21 | Pali | kernel panic? |
| 19:35.25 | freemangordon | it freezes |
| 19:35.55 | freemangordon | no panic, nothing. from time to time it reboots, otherwise it panics |
| 19:35.56 | Pali | freeze when booting or when starting X server? |
| 19:36.00 | freemangordon | booting |
| 19:36.14 | Pali | what HW and what kernel version? |
| 19:36.20 | freemangordon | and it is even stranger if I enable hpet |
| 19:36.28 | freemangordon | well, hardware is weird |
| 19:36.48 | Pali | acpi is big shit and there are a lot of hacks for windows... |
| 19:37.00 | Pali | you can tell ACPI intertreter OS name |
| 19:37.48 | Pali | for example my ACPI DSDT has code if WIN XP then ... else WIN VISTA then ... else WIN 7 then ... endif |
| 19:37.56 | freemangordon | asrock nforce3 AGP/PCIE with Phenom II 950 and Ati Radeon AGP card :D |
| 19:38.42 | freemangordon | hmm, what I have to add to boot parameters for that? |
| 19:38.49 | freemangordon | (interpreter) |
| 19:38.50 | javispedro | Pali: and with recent linux versions, the in-kernel interpreter will evaluate all three branches =) |
| 19:39.48 | Pali | javispedro, that code is handling some hot keys |
| 19:40.08 | Pali | and VISTA code is stupid not compatible with windows (some WMI...) |
| 19:40.18 | Pali | *with other windows |
| 19:40.30 | Pali | and also with no linux kernel |
| 19:40.32 | freemangordon | if I enable HPET boot process stucks until i press a key :D |
| 19:40.57 | freemangordon | after 2-3 key presses it either reboots or hangs |
| 19:41.36 | freemangordon | tried squeeze 32 bit, wheezy 64 bit, ubuntu 12.04 64 bit |
| 19:41.49 | freemangordon | the only one that boots without acpi=off is ubuntu |
| 19:42.09 | freemangordon | but ATI closed source driver does not work :( |
| 19:42.19 | Pali | ubuntu has more their patches in kernel |
| 19:42.27 | Pali | do not use fglrx, it is shit |
| 19:42.41 | freemangordon | but how to play HalfLife # then? :D:D:D |
| 19:42.49 | freemangordon | HalfLife 3 |
| 19:42.49 | javispedro | get a macintosh! |
| 19:42.53 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 19:42.57 | freemangordon | no, thanks |
| 19:43.11 | Pali | open source radeon driver worked fine on more tested pc |
| 19:43.27 | freemangordon | it works here, but afaik there is no 3d accel |
| 19:43.44 | freemangordon | (with ubuntu that is) |
| 19:43.56 | Pali | check: glxinfo | grep OpenGL |
| 19:44.06 | freemangordon | and I don;t want ubuntu in the light of recent news |
| 19:44.23 | Pali | opeon source radeon driver has 3d accel (both r300 and r600) |
| 19:44.50 | freemangordon | Pali: I tried glgears (or whatever the name was) it it told me that there is no /usr/lib/libGL???.so |
| 19:45.02 | Pali | do you have ubuntu? |
| 19:45.07 | freemangordon | not anymore |
| 19:45.19 | freemangordon | now it is wheezy installed over it |
| 19:45.48 | Pali | you need to remove fglrx and then install packages: libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 19:45.49 | freemangordon | anyway, I was just ranting, will try again tomorrow :) |
| 19:46.11 | Pali | I do not know if debian has packages with same name, but for ubuntu should be above enought |
| 19:46.17 | freemangordon | but,but isn;t mesa using CPU? |
| 19:46.34 | Pali | swraster is CPU |
| 19:46.44 | Pali | mesa has also HW support |
| 19:46.48 | freemangordon | well, ubunto is nogo, I just won;t sacrifice 3 cores for the sake of not running windoze |
| 19:47.02 | freemangordon | s/ubunto/debian |
| 19:47.46 | freemangordon | Pali: anyway, thanks |
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| 19:48.02 | freemangordon | Pali: did you look at the table I prepared on wiki? |
| 19:48.10 | freemangordon | for CSSU kernel patches |
| 19:48.34 | Pali | I had never problems with *buntu & open source radeon driver... maybe I have good tested cards... :-) |
| 19:48.38 | Pali | yes, I edited some info |
| 19:48.41 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:48.50 | freemangordon | I'll edit more tomorrow |
| 19:49.19 | freemangordon | Pali: but I don;t want ubuntu anymore, it was you to post the bugreport on launchpad :D |
| 19:49.45 | Pali | :D |
| 19:49.49 | Pali | I'm using kubuntu |
| 19:49.56 | freemangordon | seems they are going the google way. thanks |
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| 19:50.24 | Pali | maybe I will migrate to LXDE :-) |
| 19:50.50 | Pali | but ubuntu core packages (kernel, xserver, libs, ...) are still ok for me |
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| 21:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | just once more notices repugnant similarity between COBOL and SQL |
| 21:39.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | prosa pretending to implement logic |
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| 21:43.54 | BigBoxDr_ | Hi folks, any experience w/ n900 and dropbox setup he? I'm struggling w/ it ... |
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| 22:03.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I'm using my own service ;-) |
| 22:05.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | for now I transmit snapshots via share service plugin that actually invokes a sftp shell command |
| 22:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | if I'd need more than that, I'd probably set up a fish mount |
| 22:06.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | sshfs, or even a VPN |
| 22:07.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess sftp:// via midnight commander should be just fine for about everything I could think of |
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| 22:15.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | and unlike dropbox I'm in full control of my files and what happens to them |
| 22:19.07 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: fish mount? |
| 22:20.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | fish fs |
| 22:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSHFS |
| 22:20.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 22:20.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol |
| 22:21.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course the term 'mount' been inappropriate |
| 22:22.24 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, mc still speaks it, and superseded doesn't mean obsoleted |
| 22:23.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah >>I guess sftp:// via midnight commander should be just fine for about everything I could think of |
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| 22:54.48 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, do you have full discharge log from bq27200.sh? |
| 22:54.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 22:55.39 | Pali | that you have on maemo wiki are not full |
| 22:56.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I shortened it |
| 22:56.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | since the full log made wiki editor blow chunks |
| 22:57.12 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, when battery is not calibrated, the only way how to check battery is low, very low and empty is to look voltage |
| 22:57.22 | Pali | or is there any other way? |
| 22:58.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 22:58.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | only way |
| 22:58.23 | Pali | so I need to see some full discharge log and find candidate for it |
| 22:58.40 | Pali | do you have some on internet? |
| 22:58.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I found one you'll not like either |
| 22:58.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme upload it for you |
| 22:59.01 | Pali | ok |
| 23:00.16 | Pali | I see that we must change percentage capacity (in bme replacement) for status bar battery applet :-( because "very low" is when bme reports 0% |
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| 23:00.55 | Pali | very low should be EDV1 flag (from bq27200) and that is about 7% |
| 23:01.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/bqlog-fullcycle.txt |
| 23:01.57 | Pali | ok, thanks |
| 23:03.09 | Pali | hm, this is not good, because there is big step: |
| 23:03.09 | Pali | 06:12 3230 43 42 -777 883 865 865 65535 67 46 0 |
| 23:03.09 | Pali | 06:12 3238 7 7 -671 127 127 127 65535 11 46 1 |
| 23:03.28 | Pali | 42% to 7% is really big |
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| 23:12.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/n900-bq27log_til_empty.log |
| 23:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ^^^ you'll like that one better |
| 23:13.05 | Pali | ok |
| 23:17.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: btw EDV1 and EDVF flags are always working, and they have proper voltage comparators working for you |
| 23:18.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | no matter what's charge% |
| 23:18.15 | Pali | EDVF = empty, EDV1 = very_low |
| 23:18.23 | Pali | and I need something for LOW |
| 23:18.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah |
| 23:18.35 | Pali | about 15% of capacity |
| 23:18.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, you need voltage for that |
| 23:18.43 | Pali | yes |
| 23:18.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you actually need that |
| 23:19.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't see what for |
| 23:19.14 | Pali | I need to wait until my n900 discharge... |
| 23:19.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOW isn't any state which the battery maintenance system would need to act upon |
| 23:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you wanna start warning user about low battery |
| 23:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | but nothing to do for battery manager |
| 23:20.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | at 15% |
| 23:21.32 | Pali | status area battery applet recognize: charging, charger conncted & fully charged, charger disconnected & fully charged, normal, low, very low, empty |
| 23:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw it would be a very nice feature if user could actually set the level for bat-low-warning to kick in |
| 23:21.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | not hardcoded at 15% or whatever |
| 23:21.59 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer05: +1 |
| 23:22.28 | Pali | very low is when state=low && capacity=0 |
| 23:22.40 | Pali | low is when state=low && capacity!=0 |
| 23:22.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 23:22.49 | Pali | empty is when state=empty |
| 23:23.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | useless, since system shuts down 10s later anyway |
| 23:23.13 | Pali | (when empty dsme turning device off immediately) |
| 23:23.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 23:24.09 | Pali | now very low is reported when EDV1 is set |
| 23:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, it needs to detect empty to play that disgusting sound |
| 23:24.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess |
| 23:24.23 | Pali | yes, you are right |
| 23:24.42 | Pali | but I need state for reporting LOW |
| 23:25.00 | Pali | so good candidate is percentage when battery is calibrated |
| 23:25.07 | Pali | or voltage when battery is not calibrated |
| 23:25.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | make that a config option to kick in anywhere between 6% and 99% |
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| 23:26.43 | Pali | ok |
| 23:27.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 23:27.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could use the 2nd URL I posted to set up a conversion table from voltage to %, if CI=1 |
| 23:28.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter when your formula results in 10% off/error, since it's not the usual case and voltage anyway isn't that exact for telling % from it |
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