| 00:01.38 | robbiethe1st | How about drooling over Steam for Linux |
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| 00:29.19 | GeneralAntilles | robbiethe1st, 'cause I'm on OS X. :P |
| 00:30.09 | robbiethe1st | So, upgrade to Linux! |
| 00:31.29 | GeneralAntilles | Good one |
| 00:36.47 | jacekowski | SpeedEvil: well, still, more pixels to display |
| 00:37.22 | SpeedEvil | true, of course. |
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| 01:09.30 | Skry | hahah, just saw the best description of vi ever: < phrik> vi only has 2 modes: beep repeatedly, and break everything. |
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| 01:31.29 | RST38h | More or less so |
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| 09:38.44 | jon_y | also, thumb kernel if applicable |
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| 11:16.02 | jon_y | vi_: hey, how do I use dsme to check the wakeups? |
| 11:16.36 | jon_y | also, anybody know if it is a good idea to put /var/log as 24MB tmpfs? |
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| 11:26.06 | vi_ | jon_y: wut? |
| 11:26.47 | vi_ | dsme monitors important processes and kills/restarts them as they crash/get killed etc. |
| 11:27.01 | vi_ | This way nokia can be sure xorg for example will run all the time. |
| 11:27.07 | jon_y | ok |
| 11:27.24 | jon_y | I read your message earlier about dsme monitoring the wakeup signals |
| 11:28.14 | jon_y | anything else to do to investigate? |
| 11:28.30 | jon_y | strangely, the power drain isn't as bad anymore |
| 11:28.46 | jon_y | should last about 2-3 days |
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| 11:30.07 | vi_ | jon_y: that sounds about normal |
| 11:30.26 | vi_ | in truth wakeups/second is kinda irrelevent. |
| 11:30.55 | jon_y | I see, should I post syslog? |
| 11:30.58 | vi_ | as a measurement of how long your system will last. |
| 11:31.09 | vi_ | find the bq27x00 script. |
| 11:31.19 | vi_ | and install i2c tools. |
| 11:31.22 | vi_ | and install i2ctools. |
| 11:31.32 | jon_y | to measure the battery charge? |
| 11:31.41 | vi_ | this will let you read details strait from the 27500 battery controller. |
| 11:31.59 | jon_y | ok |
| 11:32.01 | vi_ | In the data it supplies, you will find average current, standby current etc. |
| 11:32.10 | jon_y | iirc there were 2 versions of the script |
| 11:32.18 | vi_ | I am not sure. |
| 11:32.26 | vi_ | I believe there is onnly 1. |
| 11:32.38 | jon_y | ok |
| 11:32.39 | vi_ | you are perhaps thinking of the charge21 scriot. |
| 11:32.46 | vi_ | you are perhaps thinking of the charge21 script. |
| 11:32.53 | jon_y | maybe I am confusing it with that |
| 11:33.13 | vi_ | bq27500 just reads the battery cell controller. |
| 11:33.22 | vi_ | The other is for charging without BME. |
| 11:33.38 | jon_y | found it http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1053809&postcount=846 |
| 11:33.50 | vi_ | (BME is nokias secret, closed source, in house, totally shit charging control.) |
| 11:34.07 | vi_ | my new n900 is rattly :( |
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| 11:34.23 | jon_y | some sort of charging regulator? |
| 11:34.37 | vi_ | what is? |
| 11:34.46 | jon_y | nokia BME |
| 11:34.58 | vi_ | It is the software part. |
| 11:35.17 | vi_ | It detects the condition of the USB port and takes the appropriate action. |
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| 11:45.00 | Lava_Croft | vi_: i never had a N900 that couldnt do service as a kid's toy |
| 11:45.04 | Lava_Croft | (in relation to the rattling) |
| 11:45.15 | jon_y | vi_: http://pastebin.com/UiszPK7z |
| 11:45.45 | vi_ | Lava_Croft: ugh, someone has tried to repair the screen. |
| 11:45.52 | vi_ | and made a shit job of it. |
| 11:46.04 | vi_ | some of the screws on the lcd assembly are stripped. |
| 11:46.09 | Lava_Croft | vi_: the build quality overall is really bad imo |
| 11:46.28 | vi_ | Also the ribbon connector is different to all the other n900 I have seen. |
| 11:46.33 | Lava_Croft | heh |
| 11:46.38 | Lava_Croft | fake screen? |
| 11:46.39 | vi_ | This upper assembly looks and ffels cheap. |
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| 11:46.53 | vi_ | I have seen the inside of ~6 n900s and this one is different. |
| 11:47.12 | vi_ | Although it is a 2101, so probably a bit older. |
| 11:47.26 | jon_y | sounds like some kind of B grade scifi :) |
| 11:47.40 | vi_ | Lava_Croft: well it does not say 'dexigned in finland' on the back! |
| 11:47.48 | jon_y | dissecting my phone to find alien material all over |
| 11:47.51 | Lava_Croft | vi_: heh? |
| 11:47.55 | vi_ | jon_y: yah, I open n900s, I hate it when they scream. |
| 11:48.09 | jon_y | :) |
| 11:48.24 | vi_ | Lava_Croft: on TMO someone got a 'new' n900 that had come from hong kong. |
| 11:48.31 | jon_y | you open them while they're still running without anesthetics? |
| 11:48.38 | vi_ | It clearly had a fake plastics retrofitted. |
| 11:48.59 | jon_y | how do I get genuine N900s anyway? |
| 11:49.01 | Lava_Croft | vi_: i have two n900's, one from china and one from thailand |
| 11:49.29 | vi_ | jon_y: It is a lottery :(. |
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| 11:49.38 | vi_ | don't buy from the east. |
| 11:49.55 | jon_y | :( |
| 11:50.27 | jon_y | vi_: anything wrong with the pastebin? |
| 11:51.16 | vi_ | jon_y: run: |
| 11:51.26 | vi_ | sleep 35; bq27x00 |
| 11:51.35 | vi_ | quickly lock the screen. |
| 11:51.39 | vi_ | wait 45s. |
| 11:51.49 | jon_y | ok |
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| 11:52.12 | jon_y | vi_: disconnect charger and wifi? |
| 11:54.19 | vi_ | jon_y: obviously. |
| 11:54.22 | vi_ | go offline. |
| 11:54.43 | jon_y | ok |
| 11:57.40 | jon_y | vi_: http://pastebin.com/aUK63iCY |
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| 12:02.06 | vi_ | that looks about right. |
| 12:02.30 | vi_ | I expect about 3-5ma standby current on a offline, standby n900. |
| 12:03.42 | SpeedEvil | about reasonable |
| 12:03.44 | jon_y | thanks vi_ |
| 12:03.59 | jon_y | sometimes when I reboot, I get weird power drains |
| 12:04.06 | jon_y | tracker/indexer? |
| 12:04.19 | vi_ | tracker is a great program. |
| 12:04.27 | vi_ | I do not see what peoples problem is. |
| 12:04.45 | vi_ | As to what is causing your power drain, I cannot say. |
| 12:05.05 | jon_y | I mean, is it cause by it running a full scan on reboot? |
| 12:05.16 | vi_ | jon_y: No. |
| 12:05.25 | jon_y | ok |
| 12:05.26 | vi_ | Tracker does not do that. |
| 12:05.45 | vi_ | If it was tracker, you would see it as one of the top processes in top. |
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| 12:06.04 | vi_ | have you changed any of trackers settings? |
| 12:06.20 | jon_y | I've told it to exclude the other partition on the uSD |
| 12:06.30 | vi_ | that is ok. |
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| 12:06.54 | vi_ | It is my opinion that activating throttling and low memory mode etc is stupid. |
| 12:07.09 | jon_y | there was once that I needed to reboot in order to get all the picture viewer working again |
| 12:07.15 | jon_y | not sure what happened |
| 12:07.28 | jon_y | tried to delete the tracker cache manually failed |
| 12:07.33 | vi_ | Rarely it does get fucked up. |
| 12:07.42 | vi_ | Install trackercfg |
| 12:07.46 | jon_y | -r doesn't rerun the tracker either |
| 12:07.55 | vi_ | It is a nice gui to configure it, |
| 12:07.57 | jon_y | yeah, I have that |
| 12:08.05 | vi_ | with 'rebuild database' option. |
| 12:08.38 | vi_ | Sometimes thumbnailer will fail on a picture and leave a corrupted thumbnail. |
| 12:08.47 | jon_y | well, after rebooting, it automatically ran a full scan and things are working again |
| 12:08.53 | jon_y | not sure what happened earlier |
| 12:09.06 | vi_ | It causes thumbnailer to vomit all over the place, but that is pretty rare in my experience. |
| 12:09.20 | jon_y | yeah, all my thumbnail were corrupted earlier until reboot |
| 12:09.21 | vi_ | jon_y: n900 is like women. |
| 12:09.27 | vi_ | Sometimes moody. |
| 12:09.35 | jon_y | :) |
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| 12:10.21 | ShadowJK | wonders why it doesn't rescan dcim |
| 12:10.34 | jon_y | it did for me |
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| 12:10.48 | jon_y | is the tracker built on inotify? |
| 12:11.03 | vi_ | tracker is built on... |
| 12:11.05 | vi_ | tracker. |
| 12:11.18 | vi_ | OSS program 'tracker'. |
| 12:11.37 | jon_y | I mean the monitoring system |
| 12:11.44 | vi_ | any tips for a new 2101 owner? |
| 12:11.59 | jon_y | it doesn't poll directories periodically right? |
| 12:12.08 | jon_y | yeah, I have a 2101 |
| 12:12.22 | vi_ | jon_y: I am not sure how it deals with monitoring. |
| 12:12.24 | jon_y | lots of funny issues, like u-boot not wanting to start properly sometimes |
| 12:12.31 | vi_ | jon_y: lame. |
| 12:12.36 | ShadowJK | I mean I've copied over DCIM images from previous N900s and they dont appear in photos |
| 12:12.53 | jon_y | oh, refresh the db? |
| 12:12.56 | vi_ | I almost wish I had kept that n900 for zeq and got him another. |
| 12:13.03 | vi_ | It was practically mint condition. |
| 12:13.07 | jon_y | vi_: yeah, only Pali's most recent uboot got it working |
| 12:13.30 | vi_ | PALI RULEZ \m/ 0 \m/ |
| 12:13.43 | vi_ | PALI RULEZ \m/ 0_0 \m/ |
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| 12:13.55 | jon_y | earlier builds caused the kernel to emit cannot mount ubi:0 or some such |
| 12:14.17 | jon_y | it works if I used flasher to load a kernel |
| 12:14.28 | jon_y | after a few tries of course |
| 12:15.03 | jon_y | at which point it can be compared to an old car engine having startup problems |
| 12:15.29 | vi_ | mmm. |
| 12:15.36 | vi_ | I think I want another 2104. |
| 12:15.45 | vi_ | 2101 for mrs vi_ |
| 12:15.51 | vi_ | she does not neet uboot! |
| 12:15.55 | vi_ | she does not need uboot! |
| 12:16.08 | ShadowJK | appears to have 2204 |
| 12:16.24 | vi_ | what makes 2204>2104? |
| 12:16.34 | vi_ | 100 better? |
| 12:16.43 | jon_y | wait, I think I have a 2204 |
| 12:16.54 | jon_y | how do I check it from the n900 itself? |
| 12:16.57 | ShadowJK | I have no clue about differences |
| 12:17.03 | ShadowJK | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 12:17.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | tracker using inotify |
| 12:17.28 | jon_y | yes 2204 |
| 12:17.44 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: thanks, that confirmed my theories :) |
| 12:17.59 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: what is so great about 2204? |
| 12:18.06 | jon_y | 2204 has lots of problems with u-boot |
| 12:18.32 | jon_y | like occasionally not booting up properly if rebooted too quickly |
| 12:18.56 | jon_y | need to use "switch off", wait for 10 seconds before powering on |
| 12:19.09 | jon_y | do it too quickly and the next boot will hang |
| 12:19.36 | jon_y | it seems to boot fine after the first fail though, so for now, just an annoyance |
| 12:19.47 | vi_ | mmm |
| 12:19.51 | vi_ | I do not have uboot, |
| 12:20.02 | vi_ | as no other OS seems able to use the n900 as a phone. |
| 12:20.17 | vi_ | Without a phone the n900 is a shit tablet. |
| 12:20.43 | ShadowJK | meegoce did |
| 12:21.19 | vi_ | yeah...meego. |
| 12:21.28 | vi_ | The most sucessful OS ever. |
| 12:21.38 | vi_ | The most successful OS ever. |
| 12:21.48 | vi_ | ? |
| 12:22.34 | jon_y | btw, any revisions later than 2204? |
| 12:23.52 | jon_y | I still remember when I first got the n900, the fresh battery could go up to a week |
| 12:24.08 | vi_ | jon_y: rly? |
| 12:24.14 | vi_ | o0 |
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| 12:25.18 | vi_ | great, the back cover is missing the kick stand magnet. |
| 12:25.28 | vi_ | Fuck ebay. |
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| 12:25.44 | gry | you could try to complain, that works at times |
| 12:25.55 | vi_ | Then I have to send it back. |
| 12:26.08 | ShadowJK | whoah, new opera version in -devel |
| 12:26.11 | vi_ | Then I am 2 weeks later still without replacement n900. |
| 12:26.19 | vi_ | ShadowJK: where have you been? |
| 12:26.25 | vi_ | opera 12. |
| 12:26.32 | gry | vi_: yeah, given that they asked me to send a piece of paper back to a fake shoes seller that'd be likely |
| 12:26.40 | jon_y | vi_: yes, one week |
| 12:26.50 | ShadowJK | vi_; only check devel every 2 months or so :) |
| 12:27.08 | ShadowJK | was looking for update to gpodder and/or markets today |
| 12:27.31 | vi_ | thgere is a gpodder update? |
| 12:27.45 | ShadowJK | It seems there isn't |
| 12:27.51 | ShadowJK | I was just checking. :) |
| 12:29.41 | jon_y | dude, wtf is with all the linkedin spam I'm getting these days |
| 12:29.52 | jon_y | I don't even know these people |
| 12:30.14 | jon_y | is that like facebook for CVs? |
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| 12:31.46 | ShadowJK | ya |
| 12:32.01 | ShadowJK | or "facebook for professionals" |
| 12:32.29 | jon_y | figures |
| 12:32.35 | marcellus_ | linkedin is a pain in the ass |
| 12:32.44 | marcellus_ | had it once and cancelled it |
| 12:32.54 | marcellus_ | I keep getting notifications |
| 12:33.27 | jon_y | I did use it once to do background check on somebody |
| 12:33.35 | marcellus_ | if you wanna stop notifications you have to login to a non existing account and change the notification settings... |
| 12:33.36 | jon_y | no idea if it is even reliable |
| 12:33.52 | jon_y | login to a non existing account? |
| 12:34.02 | marcellus_ | I cancelled my account |
| 12:34.15 | marcellus_ | it does not exist any more |
| 12:34.35 | marcellus_ | but if I want to stop it, it asks me to login... |
| 12:34.57 | jon_y | so make a new account with same name just to stop it?? |
| 12:36.40 | vi_ | linkedin is fucking gay. |
| 12:36.57 | vi_ | But you need it in order to 'play' the game. |
| 12:37.28 | vi_ | The chief engineer does not hire you, the HR department does. |
| 12:37.39 | marcellus_ | it says this credentials were already used for an account |
| 12:37.46 | marcellus_ | it's a damn catch 22 |
| 12:37.56 | vi_ | They are not impressed by your leet hax, they are impressed by your gimpy linked in page and how many loltweets you made yesterday. |
| 12:38.21 | vi_ | My advice: |
| 12:38.40 | vi_ | Make a professional looking linkedin page, facebook page, twitter account. |
| 12:38.50 | vi_ | Send all notifications to spam bin. |
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| 12:39.18 | vi_ | At the very least it will give the HR departments something to look at when they decide whether you are worth their time. |
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| 13:34.48 | Hurrian | Alright, so I'm heading out for a trip to Hong Kong tomorrow. |
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| 13:35.24 | Hurrian | Planning to have my N9 and N900 nanocoated. Don't exactly feel like chucking them into a pool, though. |
| 13:38.55 | vi_ | nanocoated? |
| 13:40.18 | Hurrian | The liquipel stuff. |
| 13:40.46 | Hurrian | I bought a likely stolen CDMA SGS2 off the local version of eBay to have it coated to see if it's legit. |
| 13:41.01 | Hurrian | ...before chucking my own N9 and N950 into the water, that is |
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| 13:44.04 | Hurrian | Given, a fully assembled device wouldn't get everything coated, and if it got chucked into a pool of chlorine treated water the results wouldn't be so good. |
| 13:51.03 | vi_ | How much does a coating cost? |
| 13:55.39 | vi_ | List of things broken on my new n900: |
| 13:55.48 | vi_ | 1. Kickstand magnet, missing. |
| 13:55.55 | vi_ | 2. Broken stylus, |
| 13:56.06 | vi_ | 3. Camera shutter sensor not functional. |
| 13:56.10 | kerio | vi_: QQ moar |
| 13:56.22 | vi_ | 4. Vibration motor is shagged. |
| 13:56.32 | kerio | vi_: also make sure the back of the camera sensor is half black half white |
| 13:56.35 | kerio | or something |
| 13:56.49 | vi_ | 5. crap all over the inside of the LCD. |
| 13:56.56 | kerio | "shagged" as in "fucked, but british"? |
| 13:57.05 | vi_ | 6. Stripped screw heads on slider. |
| 13:57.09 | vi_ | kerio: yes. |
| 13:57.19 | vi_ | I cannot believ I paid ยฃ100 for this piece of shit. |
| 13:58.41 | vi_ | very good condition my ass. |
| 13:59.01 | kerio | hahaha |
| 13:59.04 | vi_ | more like 'a bit broken but still mostly works. kind of.' condition. |
| 13:59.32 | vi_ | The question is... |
| 13:59.51 | vi_ | Do I extract his email cache and fuck with his identity? |
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| 14:13.26 | jon_y | vi_: do it, you know you want to! |
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| 14:14.04 | jon_y | for some reason I read "Windows Phone 8" as "Windows Phonet" |
| 14:14.14 | jon_y | too much n900 |
| 14:15.37 | jon_y | wait, you can put the phone in standby? echo mem >/sys/power/state |
| 14:16.05 | vi_ | just lock the keypad. |
| 14:16.20 | vi_ | It goes into standby ~10s or so later. |
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| 14:16.32 | jon_y | aha, I didn't know that |
| 14:19.10 | vi_ | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-FAULTY-NOKIA-N900-Smartphones-/221146454694?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item337d5b1aa6 |
| 14:19.14 | vi_ | interesting... |
| 14:25.49 | vi_ | wtf is a 'white' n900? |
| 14:30.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | maybe a N900 in a white case? |
| 14:33.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | jon_y: N900 can suspend_to_RAM, but it's completely useless since A) power consumption is only 3mA less than optimum yero-clock idle state, and B) it wakes up after 10..30s anyway on next unsolicited message from cmt |
| 14:33.35 | vi_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.43 | vi_ | ^ from ebay. |
| 14:34.25 | vi_ | maybe he should have installed *# enabler?! |
| 14:34.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | nfc |
| 14:34.41 | fizzie | vi_: The third picture in the ad seems to be the "white model". |
| 14:35.10 | vi_ | It looks to me that these 2 n900s are fine. |
| 14:35.15 | vi_ | Just need a reflash. |
| 14:35.52 | MrPingu | that white one looks sexy IMO |
| 14:36.59 | vi_ | on closer inspection, they both look fucked. |
| 14:37.03 | vi_ | http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2-x-FAULTY-NOKIA-N900-Smartphones-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$T2eC16JHJGYE9nooiNV3BQ,t6VDW%28g~~60_10.JPG |
| 14:37.36 | vi_ | It is so damn hard to find a decent n900 these days. |
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| 14:39.18 | jon_y | vi_: would get it for ยฃ100.00, if I was in the UK |
| 14:39.40 | jon_y | white case looks like flash reflection |
| 14:39.59 | vi_ | look at the picture I pasted. |
| 14:40.08 | vi_ | It is a higher res than you can see on ebay. |
| 14:40.14 | vi_ | The keyboard is sticking up. |
| 14:40.23 | jon_y | oh |
| 14:40.42 | MrPingu | Yeah indeed, however that chrome ring looks cool :P |
| 14:41.12 | MrPingu | Would love to paint my N900 but don't have the balls/the money to do it |
| 14:41.40 | vi_ | MrPingu: all you need is 2 screwdrivers and a rattle can. |
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| 14:44.42 | MrPingu | Yeah already bought T1-T8 screwdriverset 6 months ago :p |
| 14:45.56 | MrPingu | and paint from the local hobby/model shop? |
| 14:46.40 | jon_y | what are you going to paint on it? |
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| 14:47.06 | vi_ | jon_y: a penguin obviously! |
| 14:47.06 | akls | vi_, are you here? |
| 14:47.12 | akls | oh, yes you are! |
| 14:47.12 | vi_ | NO! |
| 14:47.15 | jon_y | Union Jack! |
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| 14:47.36 | MrPingu | jon_y probably paint that alu ring chrome-like |
| 14:47.39 | vi_ | BRB COFFE |
| 14:47.40 | jon_y | that early UK pop music stuck in my head |
| 14:47.48 | akls | vi_, I have a question about this one http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 14:47.57 | akls | vi_, how can I make xbindkeys to autostart? |
| 14:48.13 | MrPingu | akls, one moment let me find |
| 14:48.14 | akls | vi_, I've tried creating an event.d file but seems like it's too early |
| 14:49.52 | MrPingu | akls: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83643 |
| 14:51.58 | akls | MrPingu, AHa! |
| 14:52.54 | vi_ | You need to use xsession post scripts |
| 14:54.03 | vi_ | or what mr_ping said could work. |
| 14:54.24 | vi_ | His way is probably more 'proper'. |
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| 14:58.04 | akls | MrPingu thank you! :) |
| 14:58.09 | akls | oh. he left.. |
| 14:58.30 | akls | vi_, ok! This one is solved! Now how can I make the same keyboard mapping work in easy debian? |
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| 15:01.51 | MrPingu | wtf, suddenly wifi went down on N900 and always gave me network error |
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| 15:03.32 | MrPingu | No matter what, tried reloading the drivers but the fscking thing kept giving me network errors and was begging for reboot :( |
| 15:03.39 | akls | MrPingu, thanks!! : > |
| 15:03.54 | MrPingu | akls, you are welcome |
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| 15:04.34 | akls | MrPingu, and maybe you know how to make same keyboard mapping work in easy debian? |
| 15:06.14 | MrPingu | akls, copy the keyb map file to ED, I believe |
| 15:10.00 | MrPingu | Make sure it's in the same directory but then under ED ;) |
| 15:10.12 | vi_ | akls: That is what I have heard as well |
| 15:10.24 | vi_ | then you need to run setxkbmap. |
| 15:10.55 | MrPingu | my acces point is evil? |
| 15:11.13 | MrPingu | dmesg is spammed with wlan0 deauthenticated |
| 15:11.25 | vi_ | :0 |
| 15:11.33 | vi_ | someone is trying to hack your network! |
| 15:11.43 | vi_ | you are wpa encrypted right? |
| 15:11.48 | vi_ | what is your ssid? |
| 15:11.56 | MrPingu | hidden ssid |
| 15:12.02 | vi_ | does not matter. |
| 15:12.03 | MrPingu | wpa2 encrypted |
| 15:12.04 | vi_ | what is it? |
| 15:12.15 | vi_ | is it default? |
| 15:12.19 | vi_ | or did you set it? |
| 15:12.26 | MrPingu | no I set it |
| 15:12.33 | MrPingu | but dafuq |
| 15:12.34 | vi_ | inept hacker? |
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| 15:13.14 | MrPingu | guess so, wish my hacker good luck with a 63 char random key |
| 15:13.15 | vi_ | The only time you are going to be flooded with de-auths is when somone is trying to grab your wpa authentication handshake. |
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| 15:13.44 | MrPingu | vi_: I know |
| 15:14.15 | vi_ | Or if someone wants to clear everyone off a particular channel to free it up for themselves. |
| 15:14.26 | MrPingu | can't be |
| 15:14.39 | vi_ | I want channel 1. |
| 15:14.49 | MrPingu | neighbors left use c1, on the right they use 11 |
| 15:14.51 | vi_ | Spam channel 1 with de-auths for 2 months. |
| 15:14.56 | vi_ | No one else uses channel 1 now. |
| 15:15.00 | vi_ | I take channel 1. |
| 15:15.09 | MrPingu | I have c6 |
| 15:15.26 | MrPingu | the whole street has 1 or 11 |
| 15:15.31 | MrPingu | only one with 6 here |
| 15:15.36 | vi_ | heh, you live in the uk? |
| 15:15.46 | MrPingu | Netherlands ;) |
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| 15:16.05 | akls | MrPingu, but what about shift+fn+key characters? Are they going to work too? |
| 15:16.17 | MrPingu | in ED? |
| 15:16.26 | vi_ | akls: They should do. |
| 15:16.36 | MrPingu | akls, honestly I have no idea but I guess they should |
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| 15:18.50 | MrPingu | don't forget like vi_ said to issue setxkbmap |
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| 15:24.34 | jon_y | how do I stop services from the terminal for the n900? |
| 15:24.51 | jon_y | and how do I adjust a service so it is not started on boot? |
| 15:25.10 | jon_y | don't need sysklogd running atm |
| 15:26.37 | jon_y | ok /etc/init.d/klogd stop |
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| 15:28.31 | akls | jon_y, maybe it's started from /etc/event.d/ directory? check it |
| 15:31.39 | jon_y | ok, found update-rc.d |
| 15:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | akls: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70464 |
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| 15:44.32 | MrPingu | DocScrutinizer05: Thanks, might good for yappari too |
| 15:44.45 | MrPingu | *might be |
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| 15:48.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | MrPingu: refresh! |
| 15:48.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | akls: maybe not what you want for a run-once app like xmodmap |
| 15:50.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I treid to start xchat on maemo4(!) via xsession and it never worked |
| 15:50.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | tried* |
| 15:51.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably an events.d job might be the right one |
| 15:51.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or xmodmap would work better from xsession than xchat did |
| 15:52.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | according to general X11 rules, stuff like xbindkeys (not xmodmap, sorry) should get started via xsession |
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| 15:56.31 | MrPingu | Docscrutinizer05, I missed something? refresh? |
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| 15:56.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind |
| 15:57.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | or, rather |
| 15:57.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70464 |
| 15:57.25 | MrPingu | Ah I see, the edit part |
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| 16:05.34 | PBeck | hi |
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| 16:06.29 | MrPingu | PBeck: hi |
| 16:06.34 | PBeck | i have a problem with my n900. I have tested cssu stable and after the installation my locale settings are broken |
| 16:06.38 | PBeck | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=816659 |
| 16:08.15 | PBeck | i have already generated the locale, but its not working - my locale archive is 1,2 mb big |
| 16:08.28 | PBeck | *locale-archive in /usr/lib/locale |
| 16:08.42 | PBeck | i need a new one? |
| 16:09.44 | PBeck | in the language settings of the phone is it not possible to change the language its only empty - perhaps it was a problem that i have used german and not english before the upgrade? |
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| 16:44.20 | vi_ | what happens if two networked printers have the same IP address? |
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| 16:46.32 | PBeck | selfdestruction :> |
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| 16:48.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, the same that always happens when two NIC 'share' same IP - *MESS* |
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| 16:49.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | particularly your ARP tables in switch/PCs/etc will always point to that one who answered last on WHOHAS |
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| 17:07.43 | arvut | hi folks, can I roll back nmap 5.59BETA to 5.50 |
| 17:07.46 | arvut | รค |
| 17:07.48 | arvut | ? |
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| 17:16.21 | MrPingu | yes |
| 17:16.42 | MrPingu | arvut, apt-get install nmap=5.50-2 |
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| 17:43.19 | PBeck | so reflash and update to cssu has worked |
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| 17:51.14 | MrPingu | PBeck, reflash always works |
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| 17:56.44 | PBeck | MrPingu: :) |
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| 18:08.09 | akls | MrPingu, vi_ , sorry for that slow answer, but yes, copying rx-51 to ED was enough. Thank you, awesome guys |
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| 18:09.16 | akls | vi_, haha, another question... :D |
| 18:09.25 | akls | vi_, is there something I can bind to alt? |
| 18:09.33 | akls | vi_, so it's possible to press alt+f4 :D |
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| 18:11.38 | MrPingu | akls, That would create some sort of 5th level binding :o |
| 18:12.17 | MrPingu | akls, never tried but I think you would be better off with xbindkeys and bind alt + f4 |
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| 18:13.39 | akls2 | MrPingu, or maybe I can set some combination to alt down event and some combination to alt up in xbinkkeys |
| 18:13.53 | akls2 | that's going to work, right? |
| 18:16.19 | akls2 | vi_, oh, and another one! can I map some key to "Delete"? I've tried it, but it didn't work |
| 18:17.00 | MrPingu | akls2, just try |
| 18:17.26 | MrPingu | akls2, Delete does not work in osso-xterm but it does work in leafpad for example |
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| 18:17.40 | akls2 | OH. |
| 18:18.01 | MrPingu | seems delete key is bit tricky under maemo |
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| 19:22.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 19:22.56 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
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| 19:51.14 | PBeck | hum is there a other workaround for the communication error (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66870)? i have dissambled the n900 completly and cleaned it |
| 19:51.36 | PBeck | i have reflashed it and i have done the test with two seperate sim cards |
| 19:52.16 | PBeck | i think it can be only a connection problem at the motherboard ( i have done the hammer methode, too), any other thoughts? |
| 19:53.17 | kerio | PBeck: clean sim contacts, buy new sim, buy new n900 |
| 19:53.32 | kerio | stop when it starts working :) |
| 19:54.02 | freemangordon | kerio: did you try EDS? |
| 19:54.02 | kerio | freemangordon: not yet |
| 19:54.02 | PBeck | checked, checked, brought a s3 *duck* |
| 19:54.02 | PBeck | *bought |
| 19:54.02 | kerio | where did you bring it? |
| 19:54.04 | kerio | ah dammit, too slow |
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| 20:00.30 | MrPingu | freemangordon: when will bb-power4 added to thumb repo? Right now it's only available from the garagepage |
| 20:00.49 | freemangordon | fuuu, I forgot that one :D |
| 20:01.03 | freemangordon | going to compile it |
| 20:01.07 | MrPingu | no worries |
| 20:02.17 | Pali | freemangordon, DocScrutinizer05, I will send rx51_battery kernel driver to LKML for comments |
| 20:02.29 | Pali | I think driver is ready for upstreaming too |
| 20:02.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | cool |
| 20:02.55 | freemangordon | Pali: great, but I think they will object because of twl4030-hwmon :( |
| 20:03.20 | freemangordon | hope I am wrong |
| 20:03.28 | kerio | what's bb-power4? :O |
| 20:03.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, again prior "art" which in fact is crap? |
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| 20:04.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | bb sounds like BB5-cmt |
| 20:04.38 | kerio | freemangordon: After this operation, 16,4kB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 20:04.40 | kerio | wtf did you do |
| 20:05.02 | Pali | also CCing power_supply maintainers |
| 20:05.06 | freemangordon | kerio: NFC, binaries are smaller |
| 20:05.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | BB5/cmt has its own battery management entity, though ours is retired and only monitoring |
| 20:05.17 | freemangordon | I told you apt lies |
| 20:05.19 | kerio | freemangordon: what about the size of the whole thing tho |
| 20:05.25 | kerio | you suck |
| 20:05.32 | kerio | also maybe it's an ubifs thing? |
| 20:05.42 | kerio | the old binary is more compressible, maybe :3 |
| 20:05.50 | freemangordon | IDK |
| 20:06.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.00 | kerio | ooh, there's a new busybox-power |
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| 20:07.46 | freemangordon | MrPingu: ready |
| 20:08.02 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what the hell, i keep having these two or three seconds of ACT_DEAD mode when i reboot |
| 20:08.09 | kerio | with no charger connected |
| 20:08.18 | DataGhost | I'm having this weird issue which I've pinned down to python-qt apps (normal Qt apps work fine) but I can't really seem to find the cause... alarmed and syncevolution-frontend (both python-qt apps) don't really show any control outlines, backgrounds etc, just the text (for input boxes this turns out to be black on black). If I run the apps as root, they work fine. I did an strace on alarmed and |
| 20:08.20 | DataGhost | it showed that user was trying to connect() to /tmp/sapwood-:0.0, which failed with ECONNREFUSED, and root successfully connect()ed to /var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0, which are both not on the filesystem, by the way. Does someone have an idea, does it look familiar and is it fixable? I really can't seem to find the issue online. I'm using the latest CSSU-testing by the way. |
| 20:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: eh= 2 or 3 seconds? |
| 20:08.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | eh? even |
| 20:08.53 | kerio | i shit you not |
| 20:09.05 | kerio | i get the charging pattern on the led |
| 20:09.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: sorry I don't get it |
| 20:09.09 | kerio | the one that blinks |
| 20:09.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 20:09.16 | kerio | and then - untouched - starts properly booting |
| 20:09.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, normal |
| 20:09.26 | kerio | that's ACT_DEAD mode, isn't it |
| 20:09.31 | kerio | wtf, why is it normal |
| 20:09.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | NFC |
| 20:09.54 | kerio | freemangordon: where is EDS used? |
| 20:10.15 | freemangordon | kerio: everywhere |
| 20:10.25 | freemangordon | excluding calculator maybe :D |
| 20:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: lemme put it that way: ACT_DEAD is normal booted-up mode with a few services like X/HD etc not started |
| 20:10.53 | freemangordon | DataGhost: does it work on device with stock firmware? |
| 20:11.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: so during bootup there's a time window where system is basically in ACT_DEAD state, modulo it's continuing to start services |
| 20:11.17 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: but why does it do the charging pattern? |
| 20:11.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | because it's charging? |
| 20:11.43 | freemangordon | DataGhost: when it stopped to work? |
| 20:11.48 | kerio | <kerio> with no charger connected |
| 20:11.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
| 20:11.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | then I dunno |
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| 20:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably some transient bogus state of anything |
| 20:12.22 | kerio | i should probably do another full-reset |
| 20:12.30 | kerio | or whatever we called it |
| 20:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I see absolutely same behaviour on my device |
| 20:12.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | and iirc it's been like this from beginning |
| 20:13.24 | MrPingu | freemangordon: great! |
| 20:13.47 | vi__ | set rd mode |
| 20:13.48 | DataGhost | freemangordon: not the question I was hoping for :P I remember that it worked sometime but I think the last time I used a python-qt app was alarmed and that was in sept 2011. I'm not sure if I installed CSSU before that or not. Do you happen to have either alarmed or syncevolution-frontend on a CSSU'd N900? |
| 20:14.13 | vi__ | set bootreason to powerbutton flag. |
| 20:14.23 | vi__ | no more act-dead mode. |
| 20:14.25 | DataGhost | freemangordon: and it works fine as root so I'm guessing it's related to something in my profile but I have no idea where to start looking |
| 20:14.25 | vi__ | ever. |
| 20:15.35 | freemangordon | DataGhost: unfortunately no. But I suspect if it was a general problem with CSSU, there would've been reports to date. afaik alarmed is widely used. BTW what stops you from doing a reflash? |
| 20:15.48 | MrPingu | DataGhost: I syncevolution-frontend working fine and I am on CSSU-T(thumb) |
| 20:16.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: I've seen same problem for all I actually seen when I last time updated CSSU, but next boot fixed it |
| 20:16.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I hafe NFC what's been the cause |
| 20:16.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | have* |
| 20:17.51 | DataGhost | freemangordon: I'd just rather not reflash because it's quite a hassle to restore everything again and if it's caused by something I set then that won't help anyway. |
| 20:17.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: anyway the symptom is 'known', and nobody had an answer for me when I asked what's wrong with my device |
| 20:18.00 | DataGhost | DocScrutinizer05: reboots don't fix it, unfortunately :P |
| 20:18.01 | Pali | driver sent: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/30/446 |
| 20:18.28 | freemangordon | Pali: great |
| 20:19.05 | freemangordon | i suspect it is time for me to subscribe to lkml too :D |
| 20:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: you should /join #maemo-ssu and ask there |
| 20:20.45 | freemangordon | --- /dev/null |
| 20:20.45 | freemangordon | +++ kernel-power/drivers/power/rx51_battery.c |
| 20:20.49 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 20:20.53 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ |
| 20:21.29 | Pali | any problem? patch is correct :-) |
| 20:21.51 | freemangordon | yeah, it is, it is just funny. you're upstreaming KP :D |
| 20:22.17 | Pali | I can use any directory name for driver :-) |
| 20:22.35 | freemangordon | Pali: I know, but it is still funny to me |
| 20:22.45 | Pali | $ diff -Nup --label /dev/null --label kernel-power/drivers/power/rx51_battery.c /dev/null rx51_battery.c |
| 20:23.00 | Pali | I have this for generating patches (to kp tree) ^^^ |
| 20:23.44 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, I am not saying there is some problem. |
| 20:23.50 | Pali | :-) |
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| 20:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if there's any convention about path root of a diff patch. patch -p $random always been a PITA for my understanding |
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| 20:44.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd assume a `patch -p1 ...` should work when your working directory is "root" of the project |
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| 21:02.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | while patch -p0 should work to restore the file to an identical system with identical project dir |
| 21:02.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | if your cwd is / |
| 21:02.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess... |
| 21:03.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | your -p1 should probably be a -p2 then |
| 21:03.18 | DataGhost | DocScrutinizer05 we have the cause :p or at least for my case. python doesn't seem to use $TMPDIR (=/var/tmp) so it uses /tmp instead. setting TMP=$TMPDIR fixes it for me |
| 21:03.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah |
| 21:03.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | great |
| 21:04.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | soinds like a bug in python-qt though |
| 21:04.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds* |
| 21:05.02 | DataGhost | yeah. if you have some time, could you look into #maemo-ssu and run one of the commands I mentioned last? |
| 21:05.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
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| 21:05.30 | vi__ | I have just installed debian on my new PC. |
| 21:05.34 | vi__ | It has xfce. |
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| 21:05.38 | vi__ | WTF is this shit? |
| 21:05.59 | vi__ | I want traditional desktop environment paradigms. |
| 21:06.12 | merlin1991 | then you don't want gnome 3 ;) |
| 21:06.25 | vi__ | When I am struggling to find xterm, I know a distro has lost it's way. |
| 21:07.40 | vi__ | WTFucking christ. |
| 21:07.48 | vi__ | There is no minimise for windows. |
| 21:07.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: just 15min to finish that movie |
| 21:08.09 | DataGhost | sure |
| 21:08.13 | vi__ | There is no 'window list' so I can change what I am doing! |
| 21:08.19 | akls2 | vi_, install lxde then. |
| 21:08.27 | Luke-Jr | vi__: so install KDE already |
| 21:08.32 | vi__ | ...already on it. |
| 21:08.39 | akls2 | lxde or kde? |
| 21:08.44 | vi__ | lxde! |
| 21:08.55 | vi__ | kde has lost its way. |
| 21:09.23 | vi__ | All I need is a mule, 40 acres and xterm. |
| 21:09.47 | merlin1991 | dunno xfce works for me |
| 21:10.01 | vi__ | You find it more intuitive? |
| 21:10.07 | akls2 | merlin1991, what is it for? |
| 21:10.34 | MrPingu | Indeed all DEs seems to be lost |
| 21:10.45 | vi__ | MrPingu: lxde! |
| 21:11.12 | merlin1991 | hm but I do have minimize buttons |
| 21:11.17 | merlin1991 | checks what he really runs |
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| 21:11.45 | vi__ | ... |
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| 21:11.55 | vi__ | maybe I am not using xfce... |
| 21:12.02 | vi__ | then wtf am I running? |
| 21:12.41 | merlin1991 | well the debian image for xfce has no minimize buttons: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Xfce-4.4.png |
| 21:13.01 | vi__ | It says 'activities' on the top left. |
| 21:13.02 | Luke-Jr | vi__: KDE has lost its way - but there's still nothing else reasonable |
| 21:13.14 | merlin1991 | vi__: debian testing or stable? |
| 21:13.26 | vi__ | testing. |
| 21:13.35 | vi__ | My desktop does not look like that. |
| 21:13.42 | merlin1991 | btw I *do* run xfce but have everything I expect from a desktop (including minimize buttons) |
| 21:13.49 | vi__ | mmm |
| 21:13.57 | vi__ | brb, lxde |
| 21:17.27 | akls2 | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-30-231718_629x64_scrot.png |
| 21:17.33 | akls2 | but I can't see "d" |
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| 21:19.53 | merlin1991 | vi___: http://cdnm.at/~christian/xfce.png |
| 21:20.01 | merlin1991 | that's how xfce on my debian testing looks like |
| 21:20.11 | vi___ | merlin1991: I am outside X right now, I cannot look. |
| 21:20.18 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 21:20.32 | vi___ | ... |
| 21:20.58 | vi___ | although, perhaps I could see it using svga through links2... |
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| 21:22.35 | vi___ | libSVGA FTW! |
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| 21:30.16 | kerio | merlin1991: that looks like an ugly debian2/mate |
| 21:31.00 | merlin1991 | why ugly? |
| 21:36.59 | MrPingu | looks a bit ugly but it looks functional though |
| 21:38.30 | freemangordon | ugly? hehe, you should see my XP :D |
| 21:40.43 | kerio | why the hell are you using an 8 years old OS? |
| 21:41.07 | kerio | no, 11 |
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| 21:43.56 | freemangordon | well, I am trying to replace it with some linux, so far the result is that ubuntu and debian does not like HPET :D |
| 21:44.20 | freemangordon | adn that 64bit ATI divers lock the PC |
| 21:45.31 | freemangordon | also that debian is missing the firmware for my wireless, so I cannot install it without having it on some storage |
| 21:45.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | the only ugly thing I can see there is upper left |
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| 21:46.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ bbl |
| 21:46.35 | freemangordon | night |
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| 22:25.18 | Skry | freemangordon: did you try disabling hpet in boot args, or is it something you cant live without? |
| 22:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | high precision e??? timers? |
| 22:27.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf hpet |
| 22:28.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki hpet |
| 22:28.00 | Skry | yeah, high precision timer |
| 22:29.26 | Skry | its not uncommon to have problems with it on some older mb |
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