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00:52.41GeneralAntillesI missed the drama on Talk last week.
00:52.43GeneralAntillesToo much fun.
00:53.04aklswhat drama?
00:55.03GeneralAntilleshttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1282399#post1282399
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01:47.54ShadowJKHow can there be drama on a web forum
01:48.52ShadowJKIn my mind, there's so much effort involved in getting a web forum to display, that once you manage it, there'd be no energy left for drama
01:49.21ShadowJKThe effort part is why I don't follow tmo anymore
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05:31.51zsolthi!use bluemaemo to play games on my pc,but my problem is that cant press 2 keys at the same time in gamepad mode
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05:48.32LaoLang_coolHi, is it possible to create a shortcut for a directory or a file?
05:48.48LaoLang_coolI want to open a pdf quickly
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06:21.23DocScrutinizer05well, seems you could create a desktop shortcut for arbitrary http URL, then edit to file://path/to/file
06:21.36DocScrutinizer05LaoLang_cool: ^^^
06:22.09kerioDocScrutinizer05: so that microB can download it again?
06:22.21DocScrutinizer05??
06:22.24DocScrutinizer05no download
06:22.40DocScrutinizer05path/to/file is local
06:22.54kerioyes but microb will prompt you to open or download
06:22.59DocScrutinizer05WFM at least for text files (ascii)
06:23.03keriobut open is "download to tempdir then open"
06:23.04DocScrutinizer05as well as music
06:23.25keriomediaplayer handles urls, pdf viewer doesn't
06:24.24DocScrutinizer05well, if microB isn't able to start pdf viewer when URL points to a pdf, then you're out of luck
06:24.46LaoLang_cool:(
06:24.50kerioit can, but only after downloading, i think
06:25.17DocScrutinizer05FFS, I gathered the pdf is local anyway
06:25.24LaoLang_cooloh, still no friendly
06:25.45kerioDocScrutinizer05: it's a URI like many others
06:25.56DocScrutinizer05so what?
06:26.06LaoLang_coolhow to quickly access a directory?
06:26.10DocScrutinizer05how about you test it instead of pestering me?
06:26.14kerioso i doubt it's special-cased
06:26.38kerioDocScrutinizer05: good morning to you too :3
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06:30.04DocScrutinizer05first step: enter >> file://path/to/local/pdffile.pdf << into microB URL
06:30.17DocScrutinizer05step two: hit <enter>
06:33.57DocScrutinizer05WFM
06:34.09DocScrutinizer05any questions?
06:34.45LaoLang_coolDocScrutinizer05, No, thank you, it works :)
06:34.54DocScrutinizer05yw
06:35.12LaoLang_coolI tried to find the shortcut file in filesytem, but failed...
06:35.33DocScrutinizer05now the trick is you need to create a shortcut for arbitrary URL on desktop, then edit the URL of that shortcut
06:36.22DocScrutinizer05I think e.g. tweakr can edit desktop shortcuts
06:36.27LaoLang_coolI don't know which file maemo creates for me, I searched *.desktop file in /usr/share/, but without luck
06:37.05DocScrutinizer05I already did that, but fail to recall *how* I did it, right now
06:38.01LaoLang_coolok, thank you DocScrutinizer05.
06:38.33LaoLang_coolThis way feels weired though, it will open a blank brower window, I have to close it manually
06:38.45DocScrutinizer05dammit, tweakr can only edit label, not URI
06:40.25DocScrutinizer05well, then at least you have an easy way to create the desktop shortcut ;-)
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06:40.59LaoLang_coolyes
06:50.14kerioyou can be lazy and add a browser bookmark
06:51.08LaoLang_coolYes, I've done it :)
06:51.21LaoLang_coolActually, I add a directory to it...
06:51.45LaoLang_coolso I can open other files easily in the same directory
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08:51.51djszapihi, is the n900 sim lock free? Can I check it somehow for sure?
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08:52.24jacekowskithere were no simlocked n900's as fas as i know
08:57.57djszapithen perhaps my vodafone sim card is not active after no traffic for 2.5 months..
08:58.12djszapishould I still see 3g and vodafone ie for an inactive sim card in the top bar?
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08:58.22jacekowskino
08:58.35jacekowskimaybe
08:58.43jacekowskiyou should be able to make emergency calls regardless
08:59.07djszapiI just wanna get my vodafone sim card used for an incoming call
08:59.25djszapias my other sim card in n9 is not working fine when serving long calls and ap in the meantime.
08:59.29djszapiap goes usually off.
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09:57.11djszapihow can I mute the incoming calls on my N900?
09:57.22djszapiwithout a hackish way just from the UI :-)
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09:58.43djszapiI do not seem to find any options for this in the settings.
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09:59.19trxflip the phone?
09:59.35djszapimeans?
09:59.46trxit will mute the incoming call
09:59.49djszapiI would like to do this permanently.
09:59.57djszapiaka. a settings.
09:59.59djszapisetting*
10:00.05trxtap on the status bar, go to profiles, choose silent
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10:00.28djszapican I also turn the boot noise off?
10:00.34djszapithe usual Nokia sound, I presume.
10:00.45djszapiso so everything should be silent...
10:00.51trxi dont think so but you can test it out
10:00.53djszapiexcept the talks...
10:01.05djszapiflickering is ok.
10:01.24djszapiI do not see "profiles" anywhere.
10:01.43trx"Profile"
10:01.53djszapiahh in the settings, not in the topbar...
10:02.10trxi have it in the status bar too
10:02.16trxmy bad..
10:02.30djszapisystem sounds -> off.
10:02.37djszapiperhaps that eliminates the boot s tuff
10:02.47trxmaybe
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10:05.18djszapitrx: thanks
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11:04.10aklsso I'm trying to compile moc... and now I'm getting this error during make http://pastebin.com/P5jmKdf7
11:04.31aklsit
11:04.43aklsit's something about libdb, but it is installed
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11:05.52vi_Skry: I had another though on your quest for super.
11:08.08aklsJade,
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11:12.51Skryvi_: lets hear it then?
11:13.18vi_Skry: Actually I think I allready mentioned it.
11:13.35vi_Did you try xbindkeys and xdotool?
11:13.48aklsOK
11:14.06aklsnow I understand. set_msgcall is from libdb4.3
11:14.16aklsand on n900 its only possible to install libdb4.2
11:15.38aklsso now it's time to compile libdb4.3? Fuck.
11:15.44Skryvi_: I'll try now
11:17.25aklsby the way, why can't I take moc .deb package that comes for the debian and install it on n900?
11:18.35Hurrianakls, you can try.
11:18.51aklsbut it would still throw an error about libdb4.3 :\\\
11:18.56Hurrianthe libraries shit depends on would probably by the problem.
11:19.24Hurrianakls, are you talking about a debian package that requires libdb4.3?
11:19.35Hurriandpkg -x file.deb directory/
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11:20.25Hurrianthen dpkg -e file.deb directory/
11:20.27aklsHurrian, I'm trying to install moc from source on n900
11:20.31Hurrianah
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11:21.09Hurrianyou can try running "dpkg -x file.deb /" if it's available for Debian ARM
11:21.29aklssomehow I don't get how it's going to help
11:21.56Hurrianthat would install moc into your rootfs, skipping the whole dependency check
11:22.03Hurrianwheter it would work or not is a different story
11:22.12aklsoh
11:22.23aklshehe :D
11:22.24Hurrianif it doesn't actually use newer library features, it'd probably run
11:22.43aklswell I'll try it if nothing works
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11:25.48aklswtf is that? http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/d/db4.8/
11:25.58aklshow can I get this repository to work?
11:26.52aklsoh
11:26.54aklsthat's for meego
11:27.16aklsbut the package says maemo?? WTF??
11:27.30aklsmaemo6? O_o
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11:35.25aklshttp://maemo.org/packages/view/libdb4.7/ and how can I get this package? O_o
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12:47.29DocScrutinizer05akls: some like to cal HARMattan maemo6, since Nokia's idea to rename it to meego is ... well, debatable
12:48.08DocScrutinizer05fact is that meego-HARM aka maemo6 is not entirely compatible to maemo5
12:48.57DocScrutinizer05though you can simply copy *binaries* over from a N900 to a N9 and they usually work, as long as they have no GUI and no tricky low level system stuff
12:49.43DocScrutinizer05I however don't suggest to use libs or services built for HARM on fremantel
12:49.49DocScrutinizer05fremantle*
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13:04.14aklswell
13:04.18aklsI have managed to install mocp
13:04.19aklsfinally
13:04.29aklsbut now it has no decoder plugins, hmmmmm...
13:08.24aklsseems like I have not libmad0 and libmad0-dev
13:08.28aklsbut now I have to go
13:08.32aklsbyeee
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13:22.06kerioDocScrutinizer05: well, there's meecolay or whatever it's called
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13:48.10vi_hey
13:48.20vi_can I mix li-ion and lipo batteries?
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14:04.15ShadowJKIf you connect them in parallell, they must have same voltage when you  do it
14:04.23ShadowJKin series you cant
14:21.38vi_I meant parallell.
14:22.13vi_and yes, connecting a battery @3.2v to a battery @4.2v would result in massive failure.
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14:59.57DocScrutinizer51da fuggin cellmo hung. Didn't allow data via 2G while 3G worked. Going tablet mode and back to online didn't help, had to do a full reboot
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15:33.58kerioDocScrutinizer51: on which one?
15:34.02kerioiron or t?
15:35.12DocScrutinizer05IroN
15:35.25DocScrutinizer05t has no SIM
15:35.38keriohm
15:35.54keriobusted cellmo or just can't be arsed?
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15:52.52kguIs there a way to force fMMS to check for new MMS?
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16:00.48djszapiHi! Is there an online service or application I can measure where my lost N900 can be?
16:01.05djszapiI believe I lost it about an hour ago either at the workplace, on the way, or at home.
16:01.25djszapiI can write sms and call it, so it is probably still in one piece. I just cannot find it anywhere.
16:01.58djszapiunfortunately I turned it into silent this morning, so perhaps I have not recognized the vibration when trying to call it at home and at the company. But I know there are services for instance for Windows phones.
16:02.17vi_djszapi: There is, but you need to install it before you lose it...
16:02.57djszapiit was a brand new phone in terms of usage.
16:03.07djszapiso only default applications available.
16:03.22vi_djszapi: I am sorry for your loss.
16:04.09djszapi:/
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16:08.30djszapiI wrote an s.m.s message to the phone which has been delivered, so I can just hope that the founder will have some honour.
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16:11.32bbayhi guys
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16:32.48djszapigreat a person replied, and brought the phone back. Amazing, there is still honour in the world.
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16:51.09keriodjszapi: "n900" on ebay yields very little money
16:52.12djszapikerio: that does not help when you need it urgently.
16:52.21keriono, i meant the dude that found it
16:52.41djszapiI do not think he even checked it.
16:52.48djszapiit was an old man in a very small town.
16:53.00djszapiusually such places have some honour even nowadays.
16:53.09djszapiif it is found by a kid or teenager, who knows ...
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17:05.01SpeedEvil:-)
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18:11.28akls"<djszapi> I wrote an s.m.s message to the phone which has been delivered, so I can just hope that the founder will have some honour." Unless the founder is a geek
18:11.48akls"<djszapi> great a person replied, and brought the phone back. Amazing, there is still honour in the world." haha, just some stupid bitch? :D
18:12.37raccoon_akls: you're saying geeks have no honour and usually keep shit they found which has obviously been lost (and someone tries to find it)?
18:13.22raccoon_i sure would have gotten myself into the phone to get hold of the owner who misses it
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18:13.34raccoon_being one of those geeks that don't agree with your statement ;-)
18:17.39djszapiakls: an old man.
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18:19.21raccoon_djszapi: good riddance!
18:19.28raccoon_now keep that karma in mind :-)
18:19.58djszapiyes, I appreciate this a lot.
18:21.05djszapinot that it is unbroken, as the screen is quite scratched etc, but that is my fault.
18:21.11djszapiI should stop the reckless biking ^^
18:21.16aklsraccoon_, did you just call n900 shit???
18:21.37aklsdon't say such words about my girlfriend!!!
18:22.17djszapigirlfriends are heavily overrated ^^
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18:26.21keriodjszapi: just buy an otterbox
18:26.29kerioand a screen protector
18:27.41Cor-Aii think we need a screen protector!
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18:28.35keriohe probably left to buy the otterbox and the two screen protectors
18:28.59Cor-Aihope so!
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18:59.01aklsI can login at garage.maemo.org but can't login in maemo.org
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19:33.34DocScrutinizer05well, maybe that's related to both being completely unrelated
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19:36.33aklsDocScrutinizer05, ?
19:37.18aklsDocScrutinizer05, but if I press "register" at maemo.org it redirects me to garage.maemo.org
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19:48.56vi__freemangordon: ping
19:49.09Cor-Aipacket loss
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20:04.42aklsYESSSSSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSSSSS
20:04.48aklsand no, fuck, fuck, fuck.
20:05.23aklsJade,
20:05.37aklsI have installed moc!
20:05.46aklsbut it eats 100% cpu at 600 MHz
20:05.53aklssame behavior as in easy debian
20:06.24vi__what is moc?
20:06.54aklstext based music player
20:07.10aklshttp://moc.daper.net/ try it out
20:07.13aklsit is awesome
20:07.19vi__o0
20:07.34vi__100%
20:07.38RST38hwell do not install random shit
20:07.39vi__wtf is it using to decode?
20:07.50vi__a potatoe?
20:08.10aklsfor mp3 libmad0 libmad0-dev libid3tag0 libid3tag0-dev
20:08.31vi__are those libs neon optimised?
20:08.53vi__have you considered using FMGs thumb toolchain.
20:08.56vi__?
20:09.16aklsI don't even know what are you talking about
20:09.26vi__AFAIK it uses some new fancy shit the neon-i-fies by itself.
20:09.30vi__lol
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20:09.50vi__does it use 100% when it is playing nothing?
20:09.54aklsno
20:10.03vi__just decoding mp3?
20:10.08aklsplaying mp3
20:10.09aklsye
20:10.26vi__is there any way you can get it to use ffmpeg/mplayer as backend?
20:11.42aklshttp://moc.daper.net/node/87
20:11.53aklswell, it should use ffmpeg for playing aac and mp4
20:12.01aklsbut I was unable to find ffmpeg dev packages
20:12.04keriodo you guys know if flasher-3.5 does something to CAL?
20:12.08vi__Y NO 4 MP3???
20:12.26vi__kerio: you can use it to set CAL flags.
20:12.40vi__otherwise, I do not think so.
20:12.41kerioonly rdmode
20:12.57vi__yah.
20:13.04vi__Why?
20:13.24aklsvi__, what can I do :<
20:13.27aklsthere was some guy
20:13.28aklsJade,
20:13.43aklsthat claimed that he was able to install moc successfully
20:13.57aklswithout making it eat 100% cpu
20:14.06vi__well investigate how you can configure what it uses for backend.
20:14.09vi__use
20:14.42vi__gstreamer>ffmpeg/mplayer>libmad>everything else
20:15.19vi__easy debian mplayer (not neon optimised) eats 100% cpu as well.
20:16.12vi__neon is special bit of the cpu for doing maths, like decoding mp3.
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20:21.22aklsvi__, I was trying moc on easy debian - same thing! 100% cpu
20:21.29aklsvi__, but mpg123 was ok
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20:24.10aklsJade, wake up! I want you
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