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08:17.20zsolthi!can't figure out why my custom power kernel is unbootable.compiled power kernel 51r1 from src,used scratchbox's cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7
08:18.14zsoltneed some help,I'm stuck
08:19.20zsoltu-boot loads kernel,waits for 10 seconds,but there is no such message or warning,it just shuts down my phone
08:19.24zsoltuse n900
08:19.48zsoltwilling to boot from sd card
08:21.39Sicelomaybe enabling fb will help you ..
08:22.14zsoltit is enabled,but nothing shows up:(
08:22.58Siceloeew... you need people like Pali or freemangordon then
08:23.10zsolttryed with cs2009-armv7hard and with arm-eabi,it was the same
08:27.21zsoltthank you
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09:04.49FIQ|n900Hmm
09:05.05FIQ|n900If I flash kernel-power, wont that break bootmenu?
09:07.10FIQ|n900I attempted to install kernel-power-bootimg and reinstalling bootmenu but it didn't seem to refresh bootup options
09:08.16Sicelobootmenu only show's up wehn you boot with keyboard slid out
09:09.07FIQ|n900yes I know
09:09.10FIQ|n900bootmenu works fine
09:09.30FIQ|n900but it still boots the stock kernel, no kernel-power option, etc
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09:10.26Siceloyou had kernel power before bootmenu?
09:10.52FIQ|n900nope
09:10.55Siceloanyway, flashing kernel power shouldn't break bootmenu.. i would go ahead and do it
09:11.03FIQ|n900but I want to intall it now
09:11.07FIQ|n900hmm ok
09:11.09FIQ|n900*install
09:11.14Sicelohas both kernel power and bootmenu
09:11.28zsoltcould somebody tell me,which compiler is the best for kernel power?
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09:14.22FIQ|n900by the way
09:14.38FIQ|n900"   1.  Install the package kernel-power-settings (section system in Application manager). It will automatically also install kernel-power-flasher. "
09:15.06FIQ|n900this was not the case for me, had to install kernel-power-flasher manually
09:15.18FIQ|n900anyway, brb
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09:17.54FIQ|n900seems to have worked fine
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09:34.00HurrianJust a special request: Can someone build the kernel-power v51r1 sources with CONFIG_MMC=y, CONFIG_MMC_OMAP_HS=y and CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y
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09:38.13HurrianI'll need the zImage and modules.
09:38.34FIQalso when bootmenu or recovery console stays open for too long, the device shuts off.. is this watchdog or what? also how to disable it?
09:39.28Hurrianit's watchdog, load omap_wdt
09:42.39FIQhmmm
09:42.51FIQjust modprobe it, or do I need to sent it anything?
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11:38.21narcosHello all.
11:38.52narcosI'd like to re-image my N900, from a Mac. Looking at https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Mac_OS_X I notice "Both methods work fine for both the 770 and the N800/N810"
11:38.58narcosbut no mention of the N900
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11:39.18narcosAnyone have experience re-imaging the N900 from OSX, is then my question?
11:39.52Hurriannarcos, install the MacFlasher
11:40.07Hurrianthe installer PKG doesn't work correctly with Lion and newer
11:40.17Hurrianso you have to use Pacifist to manually extract the dylibs etc
11:40.24Hurrianand the Flasher-3.5 binary
11:40.33Hurrianit works in Mountain Lion, btw ;)
11:41.24narcosI have 10.6.8 on this box - should that work?
11:42.42narcosloads maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg
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11:45.20Hurriannarcos, it works
11:45.30Hurrianiirc you need to use sudo though
11:46.50narcosHurrian: Cool, trying now
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12:13.25narcosHmm, weird, I created a 48x48 .png to be used as an icon. I copied it to '/opt/usr/share/pixmaps/', and reference it in a .desktop file (without extension). I get a blue square as an icon now.
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12:17.54jacekowskinarcos: reboot
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12:32.36narcosjacekowski: Still blue
12:32.46narcos(da be dee duba dye)
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12:36.17Hurriannarcos: put it in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
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15:32.24keriohm, i'm getting Err on https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com from apt-get
15:33.41Sicelosignature thing?
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15:43.39kerioSicelo: hm, it shouldn't be an Err, though
15:43.47keriomaybe the ssl cert expired too?
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15:55.24freemangordonhehe, moving dots :P
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15:56.53freemangordonoops, ECHAN
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20:11.44RaimuOoh, Opera update for the n900.
20:11.54Raimuv12.1, heavenly.
20:16.52Sicelooh
20:17.23Sicelohasn't done a refresh/update in some time
20:17.47SiceloRaimu: what are the noticeable improvements?
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20:30.28keriomerlin1991: update!
20:30.52RaimuSicelo: ...Bigger version number!
20:31.46RaimuHonestly though, I can't remember anymore. I looked them up when 12 appeared on other platforms months ago.
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22:14.50DocScrutinizer05[general notice] Nomination period for council elections extended til 2012-10-28. PLEASE CONSIDER NOMINATING yourself or others! see: http://maemo.org/community/council/maemo_elections-september_2012/
22:15.03*** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer05] by ChanServ
22:16.04*** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer05 -> Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ -- COUNCIL ELECTIONS nomination period extended til 10-28! Dare to stand! -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
22:16.18timelessanyone here happen to speak swedish?
22:16.24timelessRaimu: ooh, nice
22:16.27DocScrutinizer05sorry
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22:17.08DocScrutinizer05timeless: how's about standing for council?
22:17.15GeneralAntillesHaha
22:17.18timelessheh
22:17.20timelessvery funny
22:17.21DocScrutinizer05you are one of the mammouts
22:17.26deepytimeless: I do
22:17.33timelessdeepy: ooh
22:17.40timelessso, most languages will write distances like:
22:17.43DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: shutup!! ;-)
22:17.44timeless"20 km" "100 km"
22:17.57timelessis swedish more likely to write "20km" "100km" ?
22:18.12deepyYes, but I'll have to double check that one
22:18.21timelessplease :)
22:18.35DocScrutinizer05eh????
22:19.03DocScrutinizer05if it's 20km, why would some Swedish write "100km"?
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22:20.08DocScrutinizer05ooh, it's about the space in between
22:20.10timelessi have an app that analyzes translations, and i noticed a discrepancy between Swedish and everything else
22:20.15timelessDocScrutinizer05: =)
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22:20.35DocScrutinizer05in German it's without space I guess
22:21.44DocScrutinizer05anyway in German it's km/h, not kmh or similar BS
22:22.10timelesshttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/1863381
22:22.25timelessis the output from my app based on some version of google earth's localization files
22:23.24DocScrutinizer05hey, you know I worked for Siemens with Navi voice which been my domain?
22:23.34DocScrutinizer05sounds *very* similar
22:24.33DocScrutinizer05really funny to record all the shit again because we forgot/mis-took one single word, for one language
22:25.28deepytimeless: it's more likely to be 100km
22:25.32DocScrutinizer05(you know you can't construct smooth-sounding sentences from words recorded on differnet days)
22:25.40timelessdeepy: without the space
22:25.42timelessinteresting
22:26.00deepyI did a blind test with 3 friends
22:26.18deepythey all went "Hmm, that has to be personal preference" but all opted for 100km
22:26.33DocScrutinizer05yep
22:26.34timelessinteresting
22:27.17DocScrutinizer05have fun in the Americas, with their M iles
22:27.39DocScrutinizer05;-)
22:27.42timelessDocScrutinizer05: this has nothing to do w/ miles v. km
22:27.47timelessand everything about how spaces are applied
22:27.58timelessjust interesting to see that swedish (and not german!) omits the space
22:28.00DocScrutinizer05eh?
22:28.33timelesssee the html i pastebin'd
22:28.54DocScrutinizer05well, swedish (or $random) omitting space (or not) is minor to some funny weirdos apllying a different metrics
22:29.03timelessshrugs
22:29.40DocScrutinizer05we had quite some fun with GB back when
22:30.05DocScrutinizer05and not only for their "wrong" side to drive on
22:30.20DocScrutinizer05(navi - you see?)
22:33.31deepytimeless: do I now appear in any CREDITS.txt as Swedish locale expert?
22:33.45timelessheh
22:33.45timelessno
22:33.54deepyor Internationalization expert in Swedish
22:34.07timelesssorry, this is just using my tool against a random unrelated party's data as sample input
22:34.25deepyIt's okay, I already have a fancy title at work
22:34.33timelessbut if i have a swedish question in the future, i'm now more likely to ask here, i may or may not remember that you helped me, but i'll remember that this channel worked
22:34.53deepyooh, you should probably remember my nickname instead
22:34.59deepyI am on IRC at random times
22:35.06deepyand I'm in more than 450 channels
22:38.44timelessupdates Opera for n900
22:40.03timelessDocScrutinizer05: for the record, i'm fairly certain my employer would object
22:40.43DocScrutinizer05ooh
22:40.57DocScrutinizer05quite nasty bemployer
22:41.04DocScrutinizer05-b
22:41.06DocScrutinizer05or not
22:42.42DocScrutinizer05deepy: my fancy title is my nick on IRC ;-)
22:43.51DocScrutinizer05deepy: WUT???? fourhunderedandfitty chans??
22:44.05deepyYeah, it went down a bit when I changed to irssi
22:44.08DocScrutinizer05dafaq, I start getting mad on my 30
22:44.30DocScrutinizer05well, I'm chanop on 20 of them
22:47.29ketassomehow, "proper n9 channels" are mostly idle
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22:52.09DocScrutinizer05proper #n9 channel is mine :-/
22:52.39DocScrutinizer05""mine""
22:52.56DocScrutinizer05like to become co-chanop?
22:54.41DocScrutinizer05ketas: I'd love to share responsibility - I really fail on taking care about that channel
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23:08.33ketasirc channels are easier to take care of than people and animals
23:10.21Gh0sty00:44 < DocScrutinizer05> dafaq, I start getting mad on my 30
23:10.32Gh0stythis is channel 20 of ... 32 :p
23:12.29DocScrutinizer05ketas: only until kerio comes in ;-P
23:13.29ketaswhat does kerio do
23:13.35DocScrutinizer05I admit freenode is doing an *extremely* good job to keep spam-bots and the like out, since >1year now
23:14.05DocScrutinizer05kerio: ^^^ what do you do? ;-P
23:14.44DocScrutinizer05well, s/kerio/e.*_/
23:16.34DocScrutinizer05nah, nevermind kerio, he's occasionally in a trolling mood, but he's actually a valuable community meber
23:16.53DocScrutinizer05member*
23:17.05ketasa weirdo
23:17.12ketaspats kerio
23:18.21DocScrutinizer05while estel_ and me are the neutrinos and anti-matter of the maemo universe
23:18.57ketaswhat happens if they are removed
23:19.08ketasprobably everything blows up
23:19.13DocScrutinizer05nothing, everybody will be more happy
23:19.43DocScrutinizer05if you remove both same moment
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23:22.02DocScrutinizer05but, if you maybe got that wrong, mine is the neutrino part. and my ubiquity diminuished during last 9 moths to maybe 10%, without anybody really noticing
23:23.02DocScrutinizer05you still dunno where and when and how much I am, but evidently I got less relevant
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23:27.40ketaswhayt
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