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| 01:16.22 | Skry | could someone with some uptime check how much the 550MHz is used? |
| 01:32.13 | ShadowJK | 600/550/500/250: 25329753/514800/91460151/102289514 |
| 01:33.32 | Skry | thanks |
| 01:34.24 | ShadowJK | C1/C2/C3/C4: 851866345317 / 167290046321 / 314706786667 / 461417554663 |
| 01:38.14 | ShadowJK | those look fishy |
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| 01:42.40 | Skry | hmm, is there any way to get exact (not rounded) mpu clock rate? |
| 01:42.52 | Skry | in hertz |
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| 01:54.14 | wobsite | Hey - I have an n900 with a freshly flashed maemo 5 on it and a dead digitizer. The rest of the phone works fine though as far as I know, and I'd like to make use of it. unfortunately as it stands, it boots up and asks me to input the time before doing anything else, which I can't do because it expects me to use the touchscreen. has anybody had any luck tweaking the software without being able to do anything on the phone itself? |
| 01:55.34 | robbiethe1st | Just buy a digitizer off Ebay |
| 01:55.40 | robbiethe1st | They're cheap |
| 01:57.47 | wobsite | robbiethe1st: I may do that eventually, but I barely actually need the digitizer once I've got a shell open or something. And I learned the hard way when I bought the phone that high positive seller ratings on ebay are meaningless. |
| 01:58.05 | wobsite | If I can figure out how to modify the rootfs though, I'll be fine. |
| 01:58.24 | wobsite | my hope is I can just reflash it after putting something in /etc/rc.local or somesuch. |
| 01:58.25 | robbiethe1st | If you've got backupmenu... |
| 01:58.34 | wobsite | what is backupmenu? |
| 01:58.38 | robbiethe1st | You need a rootfs image with backupmenu |
| 01:59.04 | wobsite | okay... what is backupmenu? |
| 01:59.07 | robbiethe1st | check the topic; basically a pre-boot application for your phone which allows USB access to the home partition, and backup/restore of filesystem images |
| 01:59.11 | robbiethe1st | google for it |
| 01:59.24 | wobsite | ah, cool, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. |
| 02:00.17 | robbiethe1st | There's a reason I wrote it. Because it's so darn useful, and there's nothing else like it for the N900 |
| 02:00.48 | wobsite | yeah, looks like it's exactly what I need. thanks a bunch |
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| 03:34.42 | iluminator105 | how do you know if you running stable or testin cssu |
| 03:34.49 | iluminator105 | how do you know if you are running stable or testin cssu |
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| 03:55.33 | iluminator105 | DocScrutinizer51 you there |
| 03:59.42 | iluminator105 | is scratchbox in the standard repos? |
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| 05:19.56 | Sicelo | Skry: ShadowJK .. how do you get to show that? |
| 05:20.25 | Sicelo | 03:16 < Skry> could someone with some uptime check how much the 550MHz is used? |
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| 07:40.40 | GGon | wow |
| 07:40.59 | GGon | is there a way to get the stock email app to mark all emails as read? |
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| 07:44.26 | GGon | guess not |
| 07:44.34 | GGon | wtf? welcome to 1999? |
| 07:44.36 | GGon | :) |
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| 07:47.15 | VDVsx | GGon, maemo4 ? |
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| 07:47.37 | GGon | 5 |
| 07:47.39 | GGon | modest |
| 07:47.51 | GGon | there is no "mark all as read" option |
| 07:48.05 | VDVsx | select all and then mark as read ? |
| 07:48.05 | GGon | and unfortunately ms doesnt have imap support for outlook.com yet |
| 07:48.09 | VDVsx | or something like that |
| 07:48.23 | GGon | lol |
| 07:48.43 | GGon | there is a way to select all? |
| 07:48.51 | GGon | ctrl a doesnt do it |
| 07:49.12 | VDVsx | I don't remember really, but I think there's a way :) don't even remember last time I used maemo5 :P |
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| 07:49.20 | GGon | heh |
| 07:49.40 | GGon | im using my broken modem n900 tethered |
| 07:49.58 | GGon | i wish i had a modern n900ish device :( i curse nokia |
| 07:50.15 | GGon | someone should make a pi based phone :) |
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| 08:02.20 | eichi | hello! my maemo sais its needs connection to the phone suite from pc to make an os update (community version). I never did this because I dont have windows. is there a way? |
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| 10:14.03 | ShadowJK | eichi, it says that when there's a conflict or not enough free space, iirc |
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| 10:20.31 | kerio | eichi: upgrade the operator name widget first |
| 10:29.58 | eichi | kerio, thanks, i will try |
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| 14:25.15 | Skry | Sicelo: cpufreq-info |
| 14:30.26 | ShadowJK | just looked in /sys |
| 14:31.35 | ShadowJK | the cpuidle numbers dont make any sense to me though |
| 14:35.17 | RST38h | ShadowJK: do keep in mind that these are with respect to current clock |
| 14:42.06 | ShadowJK | Oh I thought they just accumulated ticks |
| 14:42.48 | RST38h | yeah but these are different ticks depending on the frequency;) |
| 14:43.14 | RST38h | So the running average tends to behave funny |
| 14:43.42 | ShadowJK | but in like C4 frequency is 0 |
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| 14:44.58 | RST38h | 0 idle ticks then? =) |
| 14:46.25 | ShadowJK | actually it's defined as microseconds, not ticks |
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| 15:23.02 | FlameReaper | Anyone around? |
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| 16:10.41 | andre__ | FlameReaper: maybe. It's easier if you ask your question directly though :) |
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| 16:17.23 | kgu | I'm sorry for bothering you guys again, but how do I make the switchProfile script start automatic at reboot? I have to choose 'Start' from the status menu before it runs |
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| 16:42.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~tell FlameReaper about ask |
| 16:42.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | kgu: o.O |
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| 16:43.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | kgu: I wasn't aware from src that it has *any* 'GUI' |
| 16:43.44 | FlameReaper | Um, I was about to ask something about reflashing, but then I decided to just reflash the whole rootfs |
| 16:43.50 | FlameReaper | looks like I'll be starting new again :) |
| 16:44.07 | FlameReaper | Thanks for notifying me about that, will keep that in mind. |
| 16:44.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~BM |
| 16:44.08 | infobot | it has been said that backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 16:44.10 | kgu | DocScrutinizer51: It does - there is an icon in the status menu. I would just like it to started as default |
| 16:44.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | strange |
| 16:45.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | icon in statusmenu actually means button? |
| 16:45.51 | kgu | yes, sorry |
| 16:45.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | I always thought it needs amnual tweaking with some (XML?) config files to even make any button show up there |
| 16:46.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | manual* |
| 16:46.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | this pyrhon scriptie seems extremely nifty |
| 16:46.58 | kgu | yes, and it works :) |
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| 16:47.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | I guess I will have to test it eventually |
| 16:47.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | :D |
| 16:47.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | works - even with yor custom profile names? |
| 16:47.59 | kgu | but I guess I need to provide 'start' as action to the /etc/init.d/ script |
| 16:48.07 | kgu | yes, no problem |
| 16:48.51 | kgu | and guess I must have links in the runlevels too |
| 16:49.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's for sure |
| 16:50.16 | kgu | I tried with "update-rc.d -f switch_backend start 99 2 3 4 5 .", but still it doesn't start at boot |
| 16:50.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | though, as already mentioned, I'd start it via desktop file |
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| 16:50.55 | kgu | Yes, maybe I should try that |
| 16:52.00 | kgu | are the desktop-files always started? |
| 16:52.32 | kgu | must admit I'm not to sure about how to create them correctly |
| 16:52.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | "d yes, I recall seeing some def start() which I think I wondered where this function ever gets called |
| 16:53.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | check out modest.desktop |
| 16:53.38 | kgu | What function has this line in the init-script: "unset USE_UPSTART" |
| 16:53.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | or nrowser.desktop |
| 16:54.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | they contain sth like X-MAEMO-AUTOSTART |
| 16:55.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | (Upstart) NFC |
| 16:57.55 | kgu | sorry, I don't know what that is |
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| 17:01.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~nfc |
| 17:01.40 | infobot | from memory, nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications |
| 17:01.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess which |
| 17:02.42 | kerio | Upstart - At Least It's Not Systemd! |
| 17:04.23 | Gh0sty | :P |
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| 17:11.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | kgu: |
| 17:11.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | X-Maemo-Prestarted=always |
| 17:11.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | X-Maemo-Prestarted-Priority=2000 |
| 17:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | pick Prio as you think may fit |
| 17:12.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think the higher the prio, the later in startup the process gets started |
| 17:12.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah >>less /usr/share/applications/hildon/modest.desktop |
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| 17:12.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | copy&edit |
| 17:13.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | first FIX FRIGGIN VERSION (all shame on you Nokia), "Version=1.0" is mandatory |
| 17:14.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | (this is version of .desktop file syntax, *NOT* version of binary started by the desktop file!!! FFS) |
| 17:15.20 | kgu | thx, I will try that as last solution - it MUST be possible to do this with the init script :) |
| 17:20.27 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: nothing gives a crap about the version of a .desktop though :3 |
| 17:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yes |
| 17:21.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's no valid justification to blatantly abuse it |
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| 17:23.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | kgu: well, if the python cranks up a funny system status menu button just out of nothing, then I guess it imports a class that implements that, and instatiates own process from that class. So it's probably that class you should look docs up to understand how to make it do on launch what otherwise you have to do by clicking that button |
| 17:25.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask merlin1991, he seems to have had a look at the code close enough to suggest edits/fixes, so I gather he has a clue what's going on there |
| 17:26.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | have you tried starting the python script directly in shell, maybe with --help as parameter? |
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| 17:27.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik python is rather nifty regarding semi-automatic help integration |
| 17:27.40 | kgu | '/etc/init.d/switch_backend start' work flawless |
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| 17:30.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I meant the python script, not the initscript |
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| 17:31.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | init.d/* start parameter gets evaluated in the initscript |
| 17:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | I meant you copy the line in /etc/init.d/switch_backend that invokes the python "binary" directly to shell, append " --help" and fire |
| 17:33.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | you possibly must stop the instance that got started via initscript before you try that, though |
| 17:34.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | '/etc/init.d/switch_backend stop' |
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| 17:36.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | HMMMM |
| 17:36.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | import sys, traceback, gobject, dbus, dbus.mainloop.glib ,os , subprocess import time, sqlite3,mafw |
| 17:36.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I couldn't think which of those is meant to create a system menu item |
| 17:37.51 | kgu | I think the system menu item is created by another one |
| 17:38.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | so how is it related to profile switcher then? |
| 17:39.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | (hint for lurkers: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72876 ) |
| 17:39.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbl |
| 17:39.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk |
| 17:39.59 | kgu | guess this one creates the status item: |
| 17:40.01 | kgu | /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/switchProfByMeeting.desktop |
| 17:41.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 17:42.42 | kgu | actually this one: /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/switchProfByMeeting.py |
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| 17:48.25 | kerio | http://i.imgur.com/SAp0D.png oh lol |
| 18:09.07 | jaska | yeah, pretty accurate |
| 18:09.22 | jaska | atleast for what ive seen on debian/ubuntu |
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| 20:14.12 | freemangordon | Pali: ping |
| 20:14.23 | Pali | freemangordon, pong |
| 20:14.39 | kgu | Why is mafw-playlist-daemon started at boot? |
| 20:14.41 | freemangordon | Pali: for some reason bootreason driver cannot read atags |
| 20:14.55 | freemangordon | and there is no /dev/atags, any clue? |
| 20:15.14 | Pali | /dev/atags never existed |
| 20:15.18 | Pali | only /proc/atags |
| 20:15.26 | freemangordon | well, the same |
| 20:15.45 | Pali | there is no /proc/atags? |
| 20:15.51 | freemangordon | right now I am in maemo /bin/sh |
| 20:15.55 | freemangordon | no, there is no |
| 20:15.57 | Pali | then enable atags support in kernel |
| 20:16.03 | Pali | in that meego it was |
| 20:16.07 | freemangordon | 2.5.4, mind you. might be some kernel parameter |
| 20:16.19 | freemangordon | *3.5.4 |
| 20:16.29 | Pali | atags are still used on arm |
| 20:16.38 | freemangordon | CONFIG_ATAGS_PROC |
| 20:16.39 | freemangordon | ? |
| 20:16.42 | Pali | so it shouldnt be deleted |
| 20:16.49 | Pali | maybe yes |
| 20:17.00 | Pali | you can look at config file in my patch |
| 20:17.30 | Pali | also do not forget to enable bootreason driver |
| 20:17.35 | freemangordon | it is enabled |
| 20:17.47 | freemangordon | but there is no /proc/bootreason |
| 20:18.09 | freemangordon | seems like omap_get_config is failing |
| 20:18.22 | Pali | then check dmesg for reason why entry was not added |
| 20:19.25 | freemangordon | in sh? :D |
| 20:19.33 | freemangordon | no | sign, you know |
| 20:19.52 | freemangordon | booting normal, will try to find in syslog |
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| 20:31.22 | freemangordon | Pali: my fault, I forgot to merge atags patch (from your patch) |
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