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| 04:31.44 | archeyDevil | Hey.. could anyone here explain why my nokia n900 won't upgrade correctly? apt-get upgrade = apt "upgrades" (every time) and there are 6 not upgraded packages. |
| 04:32.13 | archeyDevil | The following packages have been kept back: libcurl3 libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++6 |
| 04:32.21 | archeyDevil | The following packages will be upgraded: apt |
| 04:32.22 | archeyDevil | 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. |
| 04:34.36 | archeyDevil | http://ix.io/35u |
| 04:35.08 | archeyDevil | ^_^ ssh apt-get dist-upgrade # Why this fail?? and apt-get upgrade # No fail but won't continue to do the rest nor stop "updating" apt. |
| 04:47.42 | ShadowJK | apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade usually mess up things |
| 04:48.58 | archeyDevil | What todo then? |
| 04:51.34 | ShadowJK | dont use apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 04:53.20 | ShadowJK | I'm surprised system wasnt blown away into unbootable state rightaway :P |
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| 04:57.22 | narwalrus | Hello |
| 04:57.28 | narwalrus | (?) |
| 04:58.32 | narwalrus | How do I transfer files into /opt on my n900? |
| 04:58.36 | narwalrus | I can't find it |
| 04:59.36 | narwalrus | okay.. |
| 04:59.43 | narwalrus | so I got opt open in my terminal |
| 04:59.59 | narwalrus | but need to transfer files into a subdir |
| 05:00.05 | narwalrus | preferably with a gui |
| 05:00.10 | narwalrus | please someone be not dead |
| 05:00.40 | ShadowJK | I don't know of a gui, system directories aren't visible in maemo guis |
| 05:00.54 | ShadowJK | presumably so you dont do anything silly |
| 05:01.15 | narwalrus | Aha |
| 05:01.16 | Skry | man cp |
| 05:01.21 | Skry | oh, no man pages |
| 05:01.23 | narwalrus | I can cp just fine |
| 05:01.34 | narwalrus | But I'm lazy |
| 05:01.47 | narwalrus | and if for in the furure I can make them availiable it would be nice |
| 05:01.56 | narwalrus | Any way around that? |
| 05:02.07 | Skry | just being sarcastic about missing man-pages in maemo |
| 05:02.38 | narwalrus | Where could I drop the files to transfer from |
| 05:02.53 | narwalrus | is /home the same as te viewable root |
| 05:02.58 | narwalrus | the* |
| 05:03.19 | ShadowJK | /home/user/MyDocs/ is what gets exported over usb |
| 05:03.33 | narwalrus | Okay. |
| 05:03.55 | narwalrus | I need to copy a directory and a file to /opt |
| 05:04.08 | narwalrus | Two seperate cp's? |
| 05:04.17 | narwalrus | Or just space between them, or what |
| 05:05.03 | ShadowJK | if you want a gui, openssh on n900 and filezilla on a pc could work if you've got wifi lan |
| 05:05.19 | narwalrus | I do. |
| 05:05.39 | narwalrus | Openssh |
| 05:05.41 | narwalrus | Sounds complicated |
| 05:05.49 | narwalrus | whats my cp command need to be? |
| 05:06.05 | narwalrus | home/user/MyDocs/file cp /opt |
| 05:06.15 | narwalrus | and then again but with the other directory |
| 05:06.18 | ShadowJK | cp goes first |
| 05:06.20 | narwalrus | is all, right? |
| 05:06.23 | narwalrus | oh right |
| 05:06.28 | ShadowJK | and cp -r for directory |
| 05:06.31 | archeyDevil | Any reason I can't get my sd card to mount on my n900? |
| 05:06.36 | archeyDevil | doesn't show up in blkid |
| 05:06.59 | narwalrus | so: cp -r directory directory and then for the file: cp file directory |
| 05:07.00 | ShadowJK | if your back cover on? |
| 05:07.12 | ShadowJK | narwalrus; yes.. |
| 05:07.21 | narwalrus | Will do.. thanks |
| 05:07.48 | narwalrus | By the way, just trying to put cavestory on here haha.. |
| 05:08.23 | ShadowJK | archeyDevil; there's a little magnet in the back cover. when you remove back cover, sd is unmounted and unaccesible. Also if the magnet is lost it wont notice if back cover is on |
| 05:11.59 | ShadowJK | heh, it'd make more sense for cavesory to access data files in Mydocs, and easier for users, but i guess author didnt think that far :/ |
| 05:13.02 | ShadowJK | sleeps |
| 05:14.54 | narwalrus | It's a port of course... |
| 05:15.00 | narwalrus | By a user |
| 05:15.07 | narwalrus | And it works I suppose |
| 05:15.32 | narwalrus | I gotta restart and go back to windows to run the patcher before I transfer |
| 05:15.34 | narwalrus | so cya |
| 05:17.56 | ShadowJK | archeyDevil; if you're a linux poweruser type person, beware that although it looks like debian, it doesnt always behave like debian. examples; /etc/fstab does nothing, apt-get can be dangerous for some things, initscripts are run by busybox, a single typo if you edit them usually results in device rebooting on boot. |
| 05:20.23 | ShadowJK | (and dont try change default shell away from busybox) |
| 05:20.41 | kerio | >don't try to change the default shell away from busybox |
| 05:20.43 | kerio | why? |
| 05:20.47 | kerio | it works fine |
| 05:23.18 | ShadowJK | maybe it was on diablo that it blows up |
| 05:23.47 | kerio | i mean, there's no reason scripts should blow up |
| 05:23.51 | kerio | they start with "#!/bin/sh" |
| 05:23.53 | kerio | aka run with /bin/sh |
| 05:24.23 | kerio | you might have a problem if bash isn't in /etc/shells |
| 05:24.34 | kerio | because sometimes you can only login if your login shell is listed there |
| 05:24.38 | kerio | so... list it |
| 05:24.48 | kerio | ...i mean, put it there |
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| 06:00.05 | narwalrus | "can't cd to bin" |
| 06:00.20 | narwalrus | So I got it running, but now I need to fix the shortcut |
| 06:00.31 | narwalrus | Which is in bin |
| 06:00.37 | narwalrus | Help? |
| 06:04.52 | Skry | what bin? you mean /bin ? |
| 06:05.19 | Skry | or perhaps /usr/bin ? |
| 06:07.39 | narwalrus | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.12 | narwalrus | So do I need to ssh/ftp to it? |
| 06:08.28 | Skry | cd /bin gives you that error? you have rights to enter it? |
| 06:09.01 | narwalrus | I'm su in the terminal session |
| 06:09.29 | narwalrus | Seems odd |
| 06:09.36 | Skry | very |
| 06:10.06 | narwalrus | " /hom # cd bin |
| 06:10.24 | narwalrus | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.36 | Skry | cd /bin |
| 06:10.53 | narwalrus | ohhhhh.... |
| 06:10.55 | narwalrus | that worked |
| 06:10.57 | narwalrus | :P |
| 06:10.59 | narwalrus | Thanks |
| 06:11.08 | Skry | np |
| 06:11.44 | Skry | cd bin tries to enter directory named bin in current dir |
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| 06:14.34 | narwalrus | btw |
| 06:14.49 | narwalrus | Realized O have a french keyboard n900 today |
| 06:14.55 | narwalrus | I* |
| 06:15.20 | narwalrus | also |
| 06:15.26 | narwalrus | :wq exits and saves vi right? |
| 06:15.36 | Skry | yes |
| 06:16.20 | narwalrus | Okay... |
| 06:16.25 | narwalrus | I need an ampersand |
| 06:16.32 | narwalrus | and my keyboard doesnt have one |
| 06:16.36 | narwalrus | interent? |
| 06:16.42 | narwalrus | find one and copy it? |
| 06:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: pong |
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| 06:29.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: kerio: nope, the busybox dependencies in initscripts (or rather, xsession or whatever starts processes under user, for desktop) are quite well known for early fremantle |
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| 06:30.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what our bitching e*_ friend never really decoded when I explained why changing busybox to busybox power might be dangerous |
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| 06:31.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never talked about friggin "3rd party scripts", what a nonsense |
| 06:33.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | it been hildon-desktop itself that didn't boot when you changed user's default shell (plus unix-tools) from messybox to bash+proper, and that caused a bootloop thanks dsme, and users doing this change of user's default shell had to reflash |
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| 06:37.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc we even once had traced the problem down to a particular cmd that behaved non-posix'ish in messybox and the script depended on that behaviour. Can't recall whether it been ls, ps, or sth completely different |
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| 06:41.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I think bash worked fine as long as you didn't replace that particular messybox provided unix-tool by its original, and bash and unix-tools ever worked great for user:"root" and initscripts, it's always been user:"user" and X startup that failed |
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| 06:52.30 | Skry | sometimes i just wonder how nokia managed to make maemo such an abomination :\ |
| 06:53.46 | Skry | sure hildon desktop is very nice to use, looks and behaves good but internally its just.. well, that. |
| 06:54.23 | freemangordon | Skry: how is kernel 3.4 going? |
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| 06:56.43 | Skry | freemangordon: 3.5.4 is running steady, bumped into some problems with 3.6, I'm about to upload 3.5 to my arch repo today once i get it packaged |
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| 06:58.03 | freemangordon | good, so we can expect maemo5 with 3.5.4 by the end of the month? :P |
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| 07:02.51 | Skry | freemangordon: high hopes! :D seriously speakin, I'll try and see what happens when I get charging and sgx done and I already have modem patches for 3.x waiting for love. |
| 07:03.24 | Skry | happens when I try to boot to maemo that is |
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| 07:03.56 | freemangordon | Skry: did bqxxx and rx51_battery patches from Pali apply to your tree? |
| 07:04.13 | freemangordon | or you didn't try them? |
| 07:04.33 | freemangordon | as if those apply, charging should work OOB |
| 07:04.52 | Skry | freemangordon: I tried only bq patch but it didnt quite work out |
| 07:05.17 | freemangordon | :( . strange, IIRC Pali prepared it for upstreaming |
| 07:05.46 | Skry | it detects charger ok, sysfs shows its charging but in reality it does not charge |
| 07:06.15 | freemangordon | bq_battery would not enable charging, you need bq_charger |
| 07:06.53 | Skry | bq24??_charger from git is the one i used |
| 07:07.25 | freemangordon | hmm, it should work, how did you check if it is charging or not? |
| 07:07.30 | Skry | the one which requires patch against isp1704 which is quite unorthodox especially when there is charger_manager around |
| 07:07.55 | Skry | i checked it from bq27x00_battery |
| 07:08.12 | freemangordon | the current? it should be negative when charging |
| 07:08.44 | Skry | it shows discharging, and all the readings lower normally |
| 07:09.20 | freemangordon | Skry: did you remember if current was positive or negative? |
| 07:09.41 | Skry | I think it was positive |
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| 07:09.54 | freemangordon | well, that is very strange |
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| 07:10.31 | freemangordon | bqxxx_charger works ok with stock kernel, I don't see a reason why it would not work with 3.5 |
| 07:11.04 | Skry | anyhow, manually charging with joergs script works (and gets reported by bq27x00) so I think I'll adapt it to work with udev which should be enough for now |
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| 07:11.10 | freemangordon | maybe you can ask Pali for some help, he should know the code pretty well |
| 07:11.35 | Skry | I already did |
| 07:12.44 | freemangordon | Skry: BTW I don't think sgx is of that much importance, most of the benchmarks say that 2D SW rendering is faster than OGL on sgx530 (IIRC) |
| 07:13.56 | freemangordon | and I think it was aapo who built and tested hidon-desktop without OGL acceleration. though can't remember what was the outcome :D |
| 07:14.08 | Skry | noticed that one too, I did a quick and dirty hack to fbdev-sgx and got it running, very slowly. |
| 07:14.45 | freemangordon | slowly as in? |
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| 07:15.10 | freemangordon | because lxde in ubuntu is very fast |
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| 07:15.42 | freemangordon | hi Pali |
| 07:15.50 | Skry | slower than regular fbdev. i also noticed those /* render acceleration is slow and unstable, enable if you dare */ comments in fbdev-sgx source |
| 07:16.00 | freemangordon | Skry: and by very fast, I mean as fast as on my desktop |
| 07:16.07 | Skry | enlightenment is also very fast on fbdev |
| 07:16.08 | freemangordon | aaah |
| 07:16.19 | Hurrian | ohai Skry. |
| 07:16.23 | freemangordon | well, then why do you need 2D accel? |
| 07:16.33 | Skry | because :) |
| 07:16.37 | freemangordon | after all sgx is 3D acceleratior :P |
| 07:16.38 | Skry | Hurrian: hi |
| 07:17.17 | Hurrian | Skry, so if I have the details right, the current fbdev is OMAP? |
| 07:17.23 | Hurrian | *the built in one on the OMAP? |
| 07:17.41 | Skry | freemangordon: most ideal would be if someone could hack xv into xf86-video-modesetting so omapdrm would be usable |
| 07:17.49 | Pali | freemangordon, hi |
| 07:18.03 | Skry | Hurrian: fbdev is fbdev :) |
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| 07:19.08 | Hurrian | 2D acceleration wouldn't really provide a perf boost, but it is a stepping stone to 3D. |
| 07:19.15 | freemangordon | Hurrian: it should be, but for some reason Skry wants omapdrm, not omaplfb :D |
| 07:19.38 | freemangordon | (fbdev) |
| 07:19.57 | Skry | i dont necessarily want, I prefer : |
| 07:19.58 | Skry | ) |
| 07:20.07 | freemangordon | :P |
| 07:20.40 | freemangordon | but you don;t have x driver for it AIUI |
| 07:20.58 | Hurrian | freemangordon, KMS and DRM being the two biggest reasons |
| 07:21.28 | freemangordon | do we really need KMS on n900? |
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| 07:22.41 | Hurrian | uhh, it makes the 30 seconds you look at Plymouth nice and shiny |
| 07:22.47 | Hurrian | and iirc it's needed for Wayland |
| 07:22.49 | Skry | freemangordon: there is unaccelerated modeset driver for x, and there is the "official" driver with hardware acceleration but a) it does not work on n900 (it has software rendering too) for some reason and b) it relies on closed source libs which are currently omap4 only |
| 07:22.55 | Hurrian | both of which we don't need right now, but are neat |
| 07:23.27 | freemangordon | Skry: isn't it possible to forward-port sgx from meego n900 HW adaptation and use closed blobg from meego? |
| 07:23.37 | freemangordon | *blobs |
| 07:23.48 | Skry | Hurrian: stskeeps has had wayland running on n900 framebuffer |
| 07:24.17 | freemangordon | those are v1.4 for omap3 soft or hardfp |
| 07:24.21 | Hurrian | iirc Skry's kernel uses the newest OMAP SGX code |
| 07:25.19 | freemangordon | yes, but it seems usermode blobs does not work as they are for omap4 |
| 07:25.24 | freemangordon | if I get it right |
| 07:25.39 | Hurrian | that's correct. |
| 07:25.54 | Skry | freemangordon: i already have 3d working with latest ti drivers on framebuffer, and the fbdev-sgx i mentioned is from meego/mer |
| 07:26.34 | Skry | working == tests pass :P |
| 07:27.02 | freemangordon | hmm, you don;t really need 2D through SGX, you want it through framebuffer, trust me on that |
| 07:27.24 | freemangordon | video overlays won't work with sgx |
| 07:27.52 | freemangordon | Skry: i played a lot with this back in times i was doing 720p |
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| 07:28.29 | freemangordon | not to mention stuff like DMA to fb, etc |
| 07:28.53 | freemangordon | and iirc sgx does some SW resizing/ color space conversions |
| 07:29.16 | Hurrian | freemangordon, the "DSS2" ? |
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| 07:29.35 | freemangordon | yes, that is what we want |
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| 07:29.44 | Skry | hmm, maybe I'll leave that then for now then |
| 07:29.59 | freemangordon | you better leave it forever |
| 07:30.05 | freemangordon | it gains nothing |
| 07:30.30 | freemangordon | Hurrian: you may try sgx drive in maemo5 too |
| 07:31.01 | Hurrian | freemangordon, getting GLES2 working in 3.5 and newer would be nice |
| 07:31.01 | freemangordon | by building a simple gstreamer pipeline, and choosing device=1 for xvideosink |
| 07:31.14 | freemangordon | but AIUI this one works |
| 07:31.45 | freemangordon | Skry: is trying to enable sgx X driver, not ogl acceleration |
| 07:32.07 | Skry | yeah, ogl already works |
| 07:32.12 | Skry | sorta |
| 07:33.48 | Skry | anyways, there is new version of the drivers coming from ti which should have big improvements |
| 07:34.01 | freemangordon | for aomp3? |
| 07:34.06 | freemangordon | *omap |
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| 07:34.30 | freemangordon | Skry: BTW I have about 8-10 different SGX SDK versions |
| 07:34.39 | freemangordon | (install packages that is) |
| 07:35.20 | Skry | i understood that omap3 support would a matter of getting someone from ti to compile those drivers |
| 07:35.25 | Skry | would be |
| 07:36.25 | Skry | but we'll see how it turns out |
| 07:37.24 | Skry | IMO that sdk is unbelievable crap |
| 07:37.27 | freemangordon | Skry: no matter the drivers, I don't think there is a way HW 2D rendering to be faster that SW. And you still have the problems with gfx/ovl |
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| 07:38.43 | freemangordon | an example: you know how mediaplayer overlays buttons over the video. it is gfx DSS2 plane that is used for those buttons |
| 07:38.51 | flux | you can use opengl for video rendering, but it's going to consume a lot more electricity than using overlays |
| 07:38.57 | freemangordon | and avl1 or 2 is used for the video |
| 07:39.06 | freemangordon | *ovl1 |
| 07:39.24 | freemangordon | sgx driver uses gfx layer for vide |
| 07:39.27 | freemangordon | o |
| 07:39.46 | freemangordon | flux: :nod: |
| 07:40.26 | freemangordon | Skry: so there is no way to show such buttons in HW |
| 07:40.41 | freemangordon | AFAIK |
| 07:41.49 | Skry | damn it, there is gotta be even some use of that pos chip, I've wasted so many hours with it :D |
| 07:42.31 | freemangordon | Skry: sgx530? use it for what it is supposed to be used - 3D accel :P |
| 07:43.14 | freemangordon | and use DSS2 for 2D/video/TV out, etc |
| 07:43.29 | teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: wanted to pick your brain regarding phone unlocking (not Nokia phones). Do you have any knowledge? |
| 07:43.40 | teotwaki | (in that area... I know you have knowledge otherwise :P) |
| 07:45.19 | deepy | teotwaki: what kind of phone is it? |
| 07:48.23 | Skry | freemangordon: meh, I guess you're right. I started playing with omapdrm in hopes for wayland, then I found out that wayland can run on framebuffer (mer guys are doing it on n900 already), and somehow i got stuck in a loop and started this hassle with all these drivers :S |
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| 07:51.17 | freemangordon | Skry: I am :P. Imagine if you want a video to be played decoding with DSP using DMA to framebuffer and HW rescaler. No way to achieve that with SGX |
| 07:53.22 | freemangordon | or capturing a video with ISP doing DMA to fb, thus avoiding 2 memcpys per frame for preview vindow |
| 07:53.38 | freemangordon | etc, etc |
| 07:54.31 | teotwaki | deepy: blackberry. |
| 07:54.57 | Skry | freemangordon: yeah, i get you. btw have you noticed that there is video scaler for dsp available from ti? |
| 07:55.04 | teotwaki | I see a lot of sites that offer to give me unlock codes for 10 quid or so, so I'm thinking: Where the hell did they get the algorithm to calculate said unlock code... |
| 07:55.11 | freemangordon | Skry: VPP? :P |
| 07:55.28 | freemangordon | is is not only a rescaler ;) |
| 07:55.55 | freemangordon | it can do crop/color space conv too. |
| 07:57.15 | freemangordon | though ysing VPP is not a good idea while capturing HD video. BTW if we manage to run newer kernel with maemo5 I will show you some magic by using ISP rescaler :D |
| 07:57.25 | freemangordon | everything in HW |
| 07:57.48 | Skry | damn, gotta start working then :D |
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| 07:58.22 | freemangordon | Skry: yeah, I am 99% sure I can output HW downsampled HD on TV out |
| 07:58.47 | Skry | why arent you already doing so? :) |
| 07:59.14 | freemangordon | because there were some probles in stock kernel IIRC |
| 07:59.28 | freemangordon | and DSS just cannot downscalle 720p to PAL/NTSC |
| 07:59.53 | freemangordon | anyway, I got to go, bbl |
| 08:00.00 | Skry | seeya |
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| 08:54.37 | vi_ | teotwaki: dont buy online codes. |
| 08:54.52 | vi_ | Your best bet is to take it to a phone chop-shop. |
| 08:55.24 | vi_ | kerio: ping |
| 08:55.50 | teotwaki | vi_: but even then, I don't see why I should pay for it... |
| 08:56.04 | teotwaki | vi_: and phone chop shops in France aren't all that popular, to be honest. |
| 08:56.12 | vi_ | for unlocking your phone? |
| 08:56.23 | vi_ | did you buy this phone 2nd hand? |
| 08:56.31 | teotwaki | Was given to me. |
| 08:56.41 | teotwaki | I'd like to unlock it so I can use it as a backup. |
| 08:56.42 | vi_ | do you know the giver well? |
| 08:56.48 | teotwaki | He's my CEO :) |
| 08:56.53 | vi_ | good. |
| 08:57.04 | teotwaki | But it wasn't his. |
| 08:57.12 | vi_ | bad. |
| 08:57.47 | teotwaki | Anyway, I know I can just go to a local shop and have it unlocked. |
| 08:58.07 | teotwaki | But if there are a bazillion websites that are able to generate the code for me, if I pay them good money. |
| 08:58.15 | vi_ | Although, if you pay for an online code with a credit card and it fails you can always just do a chargeback. |
| 08:58.19 | teotwaki | Surely I should be able to find the same resources they've used to create the generators in the first place. |
| 08:58.28 | vi_ | teotwaki: ha. |
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| 08:58.49 | vi_ | teotwaki: The resources that go into that are organised crime and industrial espionage. |
| 08:58.51 | Hurrian | those codes come from who knows where. |
| 08:59.05 | Hurrian | even the unlocker boxes used by chop shops need those codes |
| 08:59.19 | teotwaki | Not really. |
| 08:59.30 | Hurrian | for newer phones, that is. |
| 08:59.41 | vi_ | You will not find an un-passworded git server with NOKIA_DCT-8_BBL-5_KEYGAN.c |
| 09:00.10 | teotwaki | Basically, the phone has a MEP code and its IMEI. Only those two pieces of information are required to compute the new MEP code. |
| 09:00.32 | vi_ | teotwaki: correct, possibly also some manufacturer keys. |
| 09:00.36 | teotwaki | vi_: why nokia dct8? |
| 09:00.39 | vi_ | for the salting! |
| 09:00.49 | vi_ | dct8-first I could think of. |
| 09:01.01 | vi_ | dct8=3110 (i think) |
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| 09:10.03 | teotwaki | FlameReaper: those are some nicknames. |
| 09:10.27 | teotwaki | How do you reap flames, though? |
| 09:10.57 | teotwaki | Do you use a water scythe? |
| 09:10.58 | vi_ | by previously sowing said flames. |
| 09:11.15 | teotwaki | checks spelling on scythe, doesn't look right. |
| 09:11.26 | vi_ | checks out. |
| 09:11.28 | Lava_Croft | scythe is correct iirc |
| 09:11.37 | teotwaki | indeed. |
| 09:16.13 | FlameReaper | teotwaki: I have no idea, it just happened. |
| 09:16.35 | teotwaki | You have no idea how you reaped them flames? |
| 09:16.45 | teotwaki | Tough. |
| 09:16.56 | FlameReaper | ... Umm... magic? |
| 09:16.57 | FlameReaper | :P |
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| 09:18.20 | vi_ | kerio: |
| 09:18.22 | vi_ | kerio: ping |
| 09:45.28 | grammoboy | I want to run rm -rf ~/.claws-mail/imapcache |
| 09:45.32 | grammoboy | every day |
| 09:46.02 | grammoboy | can I make a script for startup, which sleeps for two days and then run the command again |
| 09:46.16 | grammoboy | the script should run always in the background |
| 09:46.19 | teotwaki | grammoboy: cron? |
| 09:46.32 | grammoboy | teotwaki, that works on n900? |
| 09:47.45 | teotwaki | grammoboy: yeah |
| 09:47.54 | teotwaki | grammoboy: otherwise there's also Alarmed (alarmd). |
| 09:47.54 | grammoboy | ok |
| 09:48.49 | Lava_Croft | alarmd is a recommended app indeed |
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| 09:57.48 | archeyDevil | ShadowJK: There is a magnet? |
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| 10:03.58 | archeyDevil | Oh, magnet in the back clip. Sensor to see if it's there? Nice |
| 10:04.09 | archeyDevil | Nokia-N900:~# blkid |
| 10:04.09 | archeyDevil | /dev/mmcblk1p1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="3738-3739" TYPE="vfat" |
| 10:04.15 | archeyDevil | That entry doesn't exist anymore btw |
| 10:04.22 | archeyDevil | Was there before. |
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| 10:09.38 | archeyDevil | Nokia-N900:/mnt# mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/sdcard |
| 10:09.38 | archeyDevil | mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /mnt/sdcard failed: Invalid argument |
| 10:09.45 | archeyDevil | Whats wrong with that command? O.o |
| 10:09.54 | archeyDevil | And blkid doesn't find it ... |
| 10:10.43 | archeyDevil | fixed |
| 10:10.58 | archeyDevil | err. blkid only fixed. (re-mkfs) |
| 10:11.18 | archeyDevil | got it -t ext2 # wow; this is old xD |
| 10:19.02 | vi_ | avoid cron, use alarmd |
| 10:19.38 | vi_ | alarmd is running all the time anyway, no need to add an extra thing running in the background. |
| 10:20.45 | grammoboy | k |
| 10:21.02 | vi_ | grammoboy: there is even a nice frontend called alarmed |
| 10:21.15 | grammoboy | I just installed it |
| 10:21.18 | grammoboy | seems to work ok |
| 10:21.19 | vi_ | it accepts cron style frequency settings. |
| 10:22.25 | vi_ | I use it to run a radio alarm script. |
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| 11:08.21 | vi_ | wtf is stdcam_replacer? |
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| 11:18.11 | archeyDevil | standard camera replacer? |
| 11:20.21 | vi_ | obviously, but what does it do? |
| 11:20.52 | archeyDevil | My guess, allow you to switch between front/normal camera? |
| 11:20.59 | archeyDevil | Assuming they come up as the same /dev |
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| 11:28.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, they come up as different /dev/*, and a muxer routes OMAP video capture bus to the one that's opened opened |
| 11:28.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: I couldn't add any info re unlock to what others said here |
| 11:29.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think the whole scene is a proper example of commercializing a hack |
| 11:33.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | or they even use genuine service tools and software |
| 11:33.44 | archeyDevil | error: duplicated database entry 'kmod' |
| 11:33.53 | archeyDevil | pacman ^_^ How to remove this error?? |
| 11:33.58 | archeyDevil | It's for lots of others too |
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| 11:35.12 | archeyDevil | pacman-mirrorlist linux-headers-omap coreutils ppp pacman util-linux libedit inetutils kmod linux-omap man-db initscripts cracklib mkinitcpio-busybox procps-ng openssh dhcpcd filesystem binutils tzdata libarchive syslog-ng libpipeline sysvinit hwids pinentry less pacman-mirrorlist linux-headers-omap coreutils ppp |
| 11:36.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: don't you think you should share a tad more of background info so anybody could guess what you're doing? |
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| 11:36.48 | archeyDevil | I'm installing archlinux arm on an sd card on my Nokia N900 |
| 11:37.04 | archeyDevil | http://dismantle-it.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/install-arch-linux-on-nokia-n900.html -- Following this |
| 11:38.32 | archeyDevil | I'm skipping the udev/watchdog parts cause I've got systemd |
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| 11:40.42 | archeyDevil | My phone is frozen ^_^ |
| 11:40.45 | archeyDevil | lol |
| 11:42.12 | ShadowJK | recommends ext3 instead of ext2 |
| 11:42.35 | ShadowJK | also: echo 4096 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/nr_request |
| 11:42.37 | archeyDevil | umm |
| 11:42.39 | archeyDevil | WTF? |
| 11:42.42 | ShadowJK | (and mmcblk1) |
| 11:42.43 | archeyDevil | I installed multiboot... |
| 11:42.47 | archeyDevil | Press a to boot. |
| 11:42.56 | archeyDevil | It's got no options!! |
| 11:43.07 | ShadowJK | did you use apt-get? |
| 11:43.16 | archeyDevil | Yea? |
| 11:43.18 | archeyDevil | wait no |
| 11:43.21 | archeyDevil | I used the app manager |
| 11:44.25 | archeyDevil | Anyone here using multiboot? |
| 11:44.33 | archeyDevil | Cause it's not letting me use my phone.. |
| 11:44.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 11:44.39 | infobot | [maemo-multiboot] deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
| 11:45.02 | archeyDevil | You serious? |
| 11:45.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, absolutely |
| 11:45.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | it is *FLASHING* new kernel during boottime |
| 11:45.50 | archeyDevil | Recovery option? |
| 11:46.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | reflash if it's broken |
| 11:46.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't use it |
| 11:46.17 | archeyDevil | Can't recover from this? |
| 11:46.19 | freemangordon | archeyDevil: u-boot is what you want to use for different os-es;) |
| 11:46.30 | ShadowJK | wonders if it does normal boot with keypad closed |
| 11:46.57 | archeyDevil | ShadowJK: trying |
| 11:47.09 | archeyDevil | Possible to bipass it? |
| 11:47.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: how could it? as mentioned above it _flashes_ your kernel (almost?) every boot |
| 11:47.27 | freemangordon | would flashing both kernel and rootfs solve the issue? |
| 11:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: that's what ~maemo-multiboot says |
| 11:48.06 | archeyDevil | It's booting :D |
| 11:48.14 | archeyDevil | I think.. |
| 11:48.20 | archeyDevil | No? |
| 11:48.26 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: sorry, I didn;t see it initially :) |
| 11:48.28 | archeyDevil | It had the booting / loading dots ... |
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| 11:48.54 | archeyDevil | How to reflash? |
| 11:48.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash |
| 11:49.00 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 11:49.05 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
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| 11:51.46 | archeyDevil | How to reflash??? |
| 11:51.49 | archeyDevil | It doesn't give me the instruction? |
| 11:51.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: if you want a duabboot setup for maemo/$arbitrary-other-os_native(not chroot or whatever), you want to investigate how MER / MEEGO did it |
| 11:52.16 | archeyDevil | Just want my maemo back for now |
| 11:52.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: you got IRC connectivity issues? |
| 11:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | see ^^^ |
| 11:52.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash |
| 11:52.28 | infobot | it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 11:52.40 | archeyDevil | I see it |
| 11:52.41 | archeyDevil | But how? |
| 11:52.59 | archeyDevil | MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOUR LOCK CODE (default: 12345) There has been at least one report where a device started to ask for lock code after reflashing! |
| 11:53.05 | archeyDevil | never knew the lock code .. |
| 11:53.07 | archeyDevil | (second hand) |
| 11:53.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | HOW? click that link, it's supposed to open a website in your browser |
| 11:53.54 | archeyDevil | No.. I mean, isn't there a few buttons to hold down to reflash back to factory default? |
| 11:53.57 | archeyDevil | has done it before |
| 11:54.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: usually your lockcode is default if you never touched it. Also a complete flash of VANILLA *and* COMBINED inmages shall reset lockcode afaik |
| 11:54.53 | ShadowJK | archeyDevil; no, there's no copy of the initial install on device |
| 11:55.03 | archeyDevil | Hmm... |
| 12:03.22 | freemangordon | what database is used by conversations? |
| 12:04.59 | freemangordon | sqllite3? |
| 12:06.02 | Pali | freemangordon, yes |
| 12:06.20 | freemangordon | Pali: and who uses libdb then? |
| 12:06.36 | Pali | I do not know |
| 12:07.02 | Pali | 2 years ago I wrote program which convert conversations logs to Kopete format |
| 12:07.12 | Pali | and I used sqlite qt plugin |
| 12:09.46 | archeyDevil | Do I have to unlock the boot loader or anything? |
| 12:11.26 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: do you have an idea what uses Berkeley database? |
| 12:12.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | contacts? |
| 12:12.32 | freemangordon | aah, yes. thanks. |
| 12:12.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 12:13.02 | archeyDevil | While my nokia is bricked.... |
| 12:13.08 | archeyDevil | Should I install uboot? |
| 12:13.09 | archeyDevil | xD |
| 12:13.31 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: ^ |
| 12:13.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems uBoot is a rather nice thing to install, if you're feeling like a hacker |
| 12:13.53 | archeyDevil | Okay.. tutorial hunting time ^_^ |
| 12:13.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's "The Right Way [TM]" |
| 12:14.16 | archeyDevil | You will need a 4 GB microSD card or bigger. You may also see "MMC", which is basically the same thing as the microSD card. |
| 12:14.19 | archeyDevil | Fail already |
| 12:14.27 | archeyDevil | No > 2G sd :/ |
| 12:14.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 12:15.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-GSM-micro-original-Handelsverpackung/dp/B000Q8623U four euro |
| 12:15.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | five even |
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| 12:15.46 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: any idea how to test sqlite3/BDB speed? |
| 12:15.47 | archeyDevil | need to unbrick my phone first :/ |
| 12:15.57 | vi_ | ShadowJK: echo 4096 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/nr_requests |
| 12:16.04 | vi_ | Rationale for this pls. |
| 12:16.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can't unbrick and install uBoot same pass |
| 12:16.14 | freemangordon | vi_: 4096 is way too much |
| 12:16.31 | vi_ | freemangordon: shadowjk suggested it. |
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| 12:16.36 | freemangordon | aah |
| 12:16.40 | vi_ | I want to know why. |
| 12:16.45 | freemangordon | i see |
| 12:16.47 | ShadowJK | vi_, so that it gets all the chance it can get to reorder writes |
| 12:16.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it seems to work (with 4096) |
| 12:16.50 | vi_ | Why such a value. |
| 12:17.15 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: but UI responsiveness is affected by such a high value |
| 12:17.24 | vi_ | ShadowJK: increasing the liklyhood of sequantial write? |
| 12:17.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | evidently? |
| 12:17.31 | ShadowJK | I'd say that UI responsiveness is affected more by the default value |
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| 12:17.37 | freemangordon | agree |
| 12:17.57 | ShadowJK | Anyway, I'd say 1024 would be the minimum you'd want? |
| 12:18.01 | freemangordon | but 1024 or even 512 fits much better at a cost of slightly reduced write speed |
| 12:18.14 | freemangordon | i use 512 |
| 12:18.30 | vi_ | dont look at me, I use compcache! |
| 12:18.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders how everybody pulling numbers and assumptions outa his a*** |
| 12:18.40 | freemangordon | it is 512 IIRC |
| 12:19.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | could we solve this debate the scientific way, please? |
| 12:19.11 | ShadowJK | 1024 is 4M/4k, 4M block size on flash, and random writes mostly being 4k |
| 12:19.18 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: empirical testing. |
| 12:19.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, like that |
| 12:19.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: ^^^ |
| 12:19.36 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I found that 512 by using transmission for stress-testing (as I already said) |
| 12:19.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 12:20.06 | archeyDevil | ~flash |
| 12:20.07 | infobot | somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 12:20.20 | freemangordon | transmittion is the ultimate "on your knees" tool for n900 :D |
| 12:20.43 | vi_ | something is totally broken intransmission. |
| 12:20.45 | ShadowJK | Already a cp from MyDocs to usd seems challenging with the default settings :) |
| 12:20.47 | vi_ | rtorrent works fine. |
| 12:20.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | fair enough, scientific enough :-D |
| 12:21.05 | freemangordon | :D |
| 12:21.25 | freemangordon | though 1024 might fit better for day-to-day use |
| 12:22.06 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I am not sure we can find a better approach having in mind customies swap subsystem we have on n900 |
| 12:22.12 | archeyDevil | Lol archuserrepos. flasher is there :P |
| 12:22.15 | freemangordon | *customised |
| 12:22.32 | archeyDevil | Blah |
| 12:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | in my theoretical approach, a high number of cueue entries has advantage of better serializing the writes; disadvantage of each pending write eating - yet to be determined - ammount of RAM for cueue entry AND buffers |
| 12:22.34 | archeyDevil | lib32 -.- |
| 12:23.11 | archeyDevil | crap |
| 12:23.18 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: iirc queue is emptied on queuesize bursts |
| 12:23.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, probably it's also emptied on timeout and other stuff |
| 12:24.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | (sync) |
| 12:24.02 | vi_ | wtf keeps resaurecting modest after I kill it? |
| 12:24.08 | freemangordon | dsme |
| 12:24.12 | ShadowJK | <3 customized swap subsystem |
| 12:24.36 | freemangordon | yeha |
| 12:25.12 | ShadowJK | On diablo I have a queue size of 8, iirc. Because the scheduling is so bad, swap algo is so bad, the latency gets out of hand pretty badly with anything bigger. |
| 12:26.25 | freemangordon | btw a very important parameter is page-cluster |
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| 12:26.40 | ShadowJK | It seems to mostly only make a difference for reads |
| 12:26.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's quite a number of very important parameters |
| 12:26.54 | freemangordon | page-cluster? |
| 12:26.56 | ShadowJK | yeah |
| 12:27.02 | ruskie | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/MeeGo-to-return-next-month-with-Jolla-phone-launch-1722465.html |
| 12:27.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | W*T*F |
| 12:27.15 | freemangordon | hmm, not sure,lemme ask google |
| 12:27.21 | ShadowJK | On Diablo I don't get any less swap fragmentation with higher page-clusters |
| 12:28.12 | ShadowJK | And fremantle is "fragmentation resistent" anyways, though increasing page-cluster does change the amount of bytes *read* from swap noticeably |
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| 12:29.18 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/03/nokia_hq_espoo_sell_off/ <-- bye bye nokia was nice knowing you |
| 12:29.19 | ShadowJK | On my desktop I have page-cluster 8 or 9 or something silly like that, it dramatically speeds up wakeup from hibernate |
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| 12:30.33 | archeyDevil | Problem... |
| 12:30.47 | archeyDevil | can't compile to install lib32-libusb-compat to get flasher to work on my desktop.. |
| 12:33.43 | archeyDevil | has grabbed a windows box.... (sigh) |
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| 12:34.17 | vi_ | freemangordon: are you CERTAIN modest is kept alive by dsme? |
| 12:34.27 | ShadowJK | or you could get a ubuntu livecd/usb ;) |
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| 12:34.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: windoze not recommended for flasher |
| 12:35.04 | archeyDevil | :/ |
| 12:35.10 | archeyDevil | Will boot ubuntu live? |
| 12:35.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: at least you'll not see much of any support when you run into trouble with windows flasher-3.5 |
| 12:36.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: nope, it's in .desktop file |
| 12:36.14 | vi_ | on 'doze it is the same as nix. |
| 12:36.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: so basically it's hildon-desktop restarting it |
| 12:36.30 | vi_ | just using the doze command line is very painful. |
| 12:36.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you got other symptomatics on problem cases |
| 12:36.52 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: but my modest.desktop file has no 'prestart' value. |
| 12:36.56 | archeyDevil | gonna boot ubuntu live |
| 12:37.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: :-o |
| 12:37.22 | archeyDevil | 11.10 ubuntu -.- |
| 12:37.24 | vi_ | archeyDevil: you can also try gparted. |
| 12:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: right approach |
| 12:37.38 | archeyDevil | Got that on a disk lol |
| 12:37.45 | archeyDevil | meh. got this ubuntu livecd |
| 12:37.50 | vi_ | just add debian repos and away you go. |
| 12:38.06 | archeyDevil | would rather get flasher working on arch but seems more complicated due to multilib craps |
| 12:38.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | arch seems really convenient POS distro |
| 12:38.45 | archeyDevil | wtf bios w\ mouse -.- (dad's notebook w\ win.7 installed) |
| 12:38.47 | archeyDevil | Blah |
| 12:38.51 | ShadowJK | It's like the new gentoo, I think |
| 12:39.16 | jaska | there was ami winbios in early-mid 90s.. which looked distantly like win3.x |
| 12:39.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | (POS != Point Of Sales) ;-P |
| 12:39.42 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: http://cxg.de/_c9af9f.htm |
| 12:39.44 | archeyDevil | POS? |
| 12:39.46 | vi_ | Riddle me this ^ |
| 12:39.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | HP Bios still using mouse |
| 12:39.54 | vi_ | POS=PILE OF SHIT. |
| 12:39.57 | archeyDevil | I read POC (proof of concept) and almost ranted at you haha |
| 12:39.58 | jaska | as long as it works with a kbd .) |
| 12:40.09 | archeyDevil | WTF UBUNTU!! Why you not booted yet >_< |
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| 12:41.28 | vi_ | have you seen pbput and pbget with the new pastebinit? |
| 12:41.49 | vi_ | It lets you store data on a pastebin. |
| 12:42.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: you recently commented that out? |
| 12:42.22 | vi_ | using base64, tar and gpg! |
| 12:42.27 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: ages ago. |
| 12:42.38 | Hurrian | Nokia's selling off their HQ? |
| 12:42.47 | Hurrian | man, they're deep in the gutters. |
| 12:43.06 | archeyDevil | Nokia ♥ |
| 12:43.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: I had a hard time make HD forget an Maemo-Prestarted=always in xchat, once I commented it out. I *think* it at very least needed reboot |
| 12:43.29 | archeyDevil | wow...... ubuntu ... BOOT!! |
| 12:43.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: HMMM on "ages ago" |
| 12:44.05 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: I have had at least 9000 reboots since commenting it out. |
| 12:44.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: grep -r Maemo-Prestarted=always / |
| 12:44.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: I *think* I found it in some friggin cache as well |
| 12:45.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | or mirror, or whatever you wanna call it |
| 12:45.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I had a *really* hard time make that autostart vanish from xchat |
| 12:45.54 | jaska | autostarting modest.. camera etc is kinda awful |
| 12:45.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I attributed it to the mess I did when testing it |
| 12:46.07 | jaska | and some of that software wont die when you close the window |
| 12:46.21 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: here is where it gets crazy. |
| 12:46.31 | vi_ | It only won't die when wifi is connected. |
| 12:46.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 12:47.00 | vi_ | and no, autocheck email is not on. |
| 12:47.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | dbus proxy invoking the service? |
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| 12:47.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | only thing I could think of |
| 12:48.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | X-Osso-Service=com.nokia.modest |
| 12:49.22 | vi_ | activesync.modest.plugin. |
| 12:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | so any dbus msg to com.nokia.modest will invoke/start modest |
| 12:49.28 | vi_ | MUTHARFUCKER. |
| 12:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUCH |
| 12:49.52 | archeyDevil | Ubuntu is finnaly up and running w\ wifi |
| 12:49.56 | vi_ | GO HOME ACTIVESYNC, NO ONE INVITED YOU. |
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| 12:50.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | kicks activesync in the guts hard |
| 12:50.20 | archeyDevil | Err. wifi not even :| |
| 12:51.08 | vi_ | wtf is activesync and how do I make if FO. |
| 12:51.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: a nice and handy thing are flasher-3.5 and the images on a USB-stick or mountable volume on your PC already |
| 12:51.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~google activesync |
| 12:51.54 | archeyDevil | Problem is.. capability |
| 12:51.57 | archeyDevil | I use arch |
| 12:52.02 | archeyDevil | flasher doesn't like arch ;) |
| 12:52.08 | archeyDevil | Well.. x86_64 arch |
| 12:52.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: I'm talking about running flasher under a live linux |
| 12:52.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: download and storing is easier when done under your usual OS |
| 12:53.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | port it to live OS via USBstick or on (even VFAT) partition |
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| 12:54.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | since your usual live OS image doesn't boot up with flasher-3.5 preinstalled, and COMBINED/VANILLA in /home/~ |
| 12:55.33 | archeyDevil | no vfat lol |
| 12:56.06 | archeyDevil | is installing flasher on ubuntu live |
| 12:56.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveSync |
| 12:56.32 | vi_ | ... |
| 12:56.35 | vi_ | sybe |
| 12:56.39 | vi_ | skype |
| 12:56.41 | vi_ | addressbook |
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| 12:56.45 | vi_ | signond |
| 12:56.49 | vi_ | its all linked. |
| 12:56.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | to modest?? |
| 12:57.32 | vi_ | every dick and his wife seems to be calling for modest over dbus |
| 12:57.59 | vi_ | evolution dataserver |
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| 13:00.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng activesync |
| 13:01.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and push-mail |
| 13:01.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | both zombified |
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| 13:03.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | simple approach: ln -s /bin/false /usr/bin/modest |
| 13:03.44 | vi_ | apt-get remove as-daemon-0 |
| 13:03.51 | vi_ | problem solved |
| 13:03.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | that too |
| 13:04.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and comment out the X-Osso-Service=com.nokia.modest as well |
| 13:04.44 | bullet9mm | hi all! |
| 13:04.47 | vi_ | wont that ruin mailto: handler? |
| 13:04.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | so no more proxy on dbus that could start modest when anybody nagging ;-) |
| 13:05.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly, yes |
| 13:05.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi bullet9mm |
| 13:05.54 | archeyDevil | Okay.. |
| 13:06.06 | vi_ | ... |
| 13:06.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | okay? |
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| 13:06.19 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: So, I download the 1009 vanilla emmc bin file? |
| 13:06.22 | archeyDevil | 209 * |
| 13:06.24 | archeyDevil | 2009 * |
| 13:06.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: lsmod|grep phonet |
| 13:06.28 | vi_ | why does mp-fremantle-community-pr depend on modest-home-applet?? |
| 13:06.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | goooood question ;-P |
| 13:06.58 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: It's working and I put my phone in R&D more |
| 13:06.59 | archeyDevil | mode |
| 13:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | fine :-) |
| 13:07.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | download *latest* |
| 13:07.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | of both VANILLA and COMBINED |
| 13:07.32 | vi_ | look carefully it does say pr1.3 global |
| 13:07.41 | ShadowJK | the emmc one is probably not required for you to recover from this |
| 13:07.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | that too |
| 13:08.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, as ~flashing says, COMBINED only rarely needed |
| 13:08.15 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: diff w\ vanilla and combined? |
| 13:08.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | err scratch that |
| 13:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | VANILLA only rarely needed |
| 13:08.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~xyawn |
| 13:08.34 | infobot | i heard xyawn is strong coffee |
| 13:08.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | AYESIR, MAM |
| 13:09.02 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Which should I get? vanilla or combined? |
| 13:09.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | get both, just in case |
| 13:09.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | try flashing combined first |
| 13:09.27 | archeyDevil | HEAPS of links lol |
| 13:09.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | check for LATEST |
| 13:09.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | right col |
| 13:09.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-10-03 15:07:32] <vi_> look carefully it does say pr1.3 global |
| 13:10.23 | archeyDevil | Go Latest Maemo 5 Global release for Nokia n900? |
| 13:10.29 | archeyDevil | PR combined |
| 13:10.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sounds good |
| 13:10.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | LATEST... COMBINED |
| 13:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | global |
| 13:11.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | all three regex match ;-) |
| 13:11.15 | archeyDevil | Whoah |
| 13:11.20 | archeyDevil | WTF DID UBUNTU DO TO ALT TAB!! |
| 13:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~buntkuh |
| 13:11.38 | infobot | i guess buntkuh is http://xkcd.com/424/ ... Redmond, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein-Rind |
| 13:11.54 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: You're biolink'd to the bot lol |
| 13:12.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 13:12.07 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 13:12.54 | archeyDevil | lol. |
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| 13:13.22 | archeyDevil | 191MB file downloading....... 300-400KB/sex |
| 13:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sex |
| 13:13.37 | infobot | [~sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; emerge --oneshot condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; emerge -C condom; make clean; sleep; |
| 13:13.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 13:13.49 | infobot | I'm pregnant |
| 13:13.52 | archeyDevil | haha |
| 13:14.31 | vi_ | ding dong the modest is dead. |
| 13:14.34 | bullet9mm | I need some help...when i try run "apt-get update" the console return this error..... W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 134924954 ....some ideas? thanks at all! |
| 13:14.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 13:14.46 | vi_ | bullet9mm: Yeah, just ignore it. |
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| 13:15.16 | vi_ | bullet9mm: is 9mm your favourite kind of bullet? |
| 13:15.50 | bullet9mm | vi_ it's only a nick... :) |
| 13:16.34 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: I'm getting this bin first (only) and I'll download the other if this fails |
| 13:16.45 | archeyDevil | Btw. I have no usb ports for usb flash drives xD |
| 13:17.00 | archeyDevil | 2 for usb-cdrom. 1 for phone haha |
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| 13:17.33 | archeyDevil | can't believe that he bricked his phone :P |
| 13:17.49 | FlameReaper | Oh |
| 13:18.03 | archeyDevil | When I stuffed up my desktop and notebook's.. It was my backup for everything (ty 32G flash) |
| 13:18.06 | archeyDevil | xD |
| 13:18.06 | bullet9mm | vi_ thank you for the answer, but I'd like to know why I've this warning and why ignore it will fix it...thanks! |
| 13:19.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: read all about: |
| 13:19.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 13:19.25 | infobot | it has been said that backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 13:19.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ...or simply *install* and *use* it ;-) |
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| 13:20.27 | freemangordon | the fuck, sqlite3 writes its journal in /var/lib/sqlite3 |
| 13:20.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ham ->install, "all" type-search "backup", install |
| 13:20.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | (enable extras-devel prior to that) |
| 13:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | (and get a softdrink of your choice, or better a nice cup of coffe, it will take HAM like 5min to start up, with extras-devel enabled) |
| 13:21.52 | archeyDevil | Where I get the rootfs? |
| 13:22.01 | archeyDevil | problem |
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| 13:23.10 | archeyDevil | http://typewith.me/p/archeydevil-n900 |
| 13:23.42 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: ^_^ |
| 13:24.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
| 13:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: WTF indeed |
| 13:24.40 | ShadowJK | 503 Service Unavailable |
| 13:24.41 | ShadowJK | No server is available to handle this request. |
| 13:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.29 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: sqlite3 is user users |
| 13:25.35 | archeyDevil | ShadowJK: Please tell me thats not for my link? |
| 13:25.42 | ShadowJK | archeyDevil, it is |
| 13:25.48 | archeyDevil | ShadowJK: Working here |
| 13:25.50 | archeyDevil | Just clicked it ^_^ |
| 13:26.03 | bullet9mm | no one has ideas for my issue? |
| 13:26.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: /var7lib/sqlite ? even worse! |
| 13:26.27 | archeyDevil | Err not working on desktop |
| 13:26.27 | freemangordon | this is patch made by nokia |
| 13:26.30 | archeyDevil | but worked on notebook |
| 13:26.32 | archeyDevil | hmm |
| 13:27.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | bullet9mm: either server is fsckd up, a thing not unheard of. Or you nuked your key on your device |
| 13:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 13:27.41 | archeyDevil | http://pastebin.com/7y5Kc8v5 |
| 13:27.47 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: Fixes: NB#138038 Sqlite's journal stored in fast flash |
| 13:28.01 | freemangordon | :D |
| 13:28.17 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: any suggestions?? |
| 13:28.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: flasher 3.TWELFE!! |
| 13:28.39 | archeyDevil | ? |
| 13:28.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | is for N9/HARMATTAN |
| 13:28.44 | freemangordon | 3.12 |
| 13:28.54 | archeyDevil | Hehe |
| 13:28.57 | archeyDevil | Wrong version ima guess. |
| 13:28.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3.5 for fremantle |
| 13:29.01 | freemangordon | you need 3.5 (iirc) |
| 13:29.06 | bullet9mm | DocScrutinizer05 ...thanks, any idea to check if my key is valid? |
| 13:29.25 | freemangordon | bullet9mm: ignore that, you can do nothing about it |
| 13:29.26 | archeyDevil | Okay |
| 13:29.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are ways to import the key, to install the right file with key, and to do other nice stuff. I got no clue though |
| 13:29.59 | bullet9mm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.01 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Where get 3.5???? |
| 13:30.08 | freemangordon | bullet9mm: assuming your system date is correctly set |
| 13:30.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | same place |
| 13:30.17 | archeyDevil | oh nvm |
| 13:30.52 | archeyDevil | grr, have to use i386 binary |
| 13:31.05 | archeyDevil | Nokia... Why you no open source?? |
| 13:31.31 | archeyDevil | Open source your GSM stuffs please :) |
| 13:31.38 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: do you agree with me that having sqlite journal on flash is a bad idea? |
| 13:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2204<< wow |
| 13:31.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | rare hw-version |
| 13:31.57 | bullet9mm | freemangordon , yeah! seems all right... |
| 13:32.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: I'd not instantly argue against you rPOV |
| 13:32.43 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: the problem is I can' explain why I don;t like it :D:D:D |
| 13:32.50 | freemangordon | *can't |
| 13:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | my problem is I got NFX what the journal is meant for |
| 13:33.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/X/C/ |
| 13:33.27 | freemangordon | this is one of the rare moments I would love to be proven wrong |
| 13:33.31 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Really? |
| 13:33.34 | archeyDevil | How so is it rare? |
| 13:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: usual hw rev is sth like 21xx |
| 13:34.15 | bullet9mm | ok, thanks at all for help, bye! |
| 13:34.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw, come back eventually |
| 13:34.35 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: not that I know how exactly sqlite3 works, but journal keeps transactions until they are comited or reverted |
| 13:34.36 | *** join/#maemo FlameReaper (~assassin@115.132.44.5) |
| 13:34.37 | archeyDevil | So I got one of the newest? |
| 13:34.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: then it belongs into /tmp |
| 13:35.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: prolly |
| 13:35.11 | FlameReaper | Damn, battery died. |
| 13:35.29 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Cool. :D |
| 13:35.30 | FlameReaper | So I have this curiosity about hildon-desktop and possibly transitions.ini |
| 13:35.39 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, it should be on a permanent storage , so you can recover the db in case of power fail |
| 13:36.02 | FlameReaper | At some times, hildon-desktop will freeze, buttons will stop responding |
| 13:36.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | FlameReaper: I recall your question. CSSU and transitions.ini are not identical to other GUI tweaker tools |
| 13:36.20 | archeyDevil | WTF UBUNTU!!???? |
| 13:36.27 | FlameReaper | DocScrutinizer05: Ah |
| 13:36.35 | archeyDevil | Firefox. shortcut to open downloads dialoge.. Ctrl + shift + Y ??? |
| 13:36.57 | FlameReaper | DocScrutinizer05: So I suppose I can't get help regarding that? |
| 13:37.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | FlameReaper: device GUI "freezing" usually caused by swap hell |
| 13:37.10 | FlameReaper | Ah |
| 13:37.19 | FlameReaper | At most times when I observed |
| 13:37.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got browser open, with heavy flash pages |
| 13:37.33 | FlameReaper | my SSH session with the phone as the host |
| 13:37.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 13:37.44 | FlameReaper | it's usually fine |
| 13:37.57 | FlameReaper | but when I try to issue a hildon-desktop restart from there |
| 13:38.04 | FlameReaper | it won't work, when it should |
| 13:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, since it's not CPU hogged, but HD parts swapped out |
| 13:38.16 | archeyDevil | installing flasher 3.5 |
| 13:38.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | close suspicious apps, esp browser |
| 13:38.46 | FlameReaper | I see |
| 13:38.58 | FlameReaper | Most of the time I use opera, but that might also be the culprit |
| 13:39.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | an occasional killall browserd helps miracles |
| 13:39.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 13:39.24 | FlameReaper | browserd does run even when you're offline isn't it? |
| 13:39.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 13:39.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | used for quite a number of other stuff, than just for websurfing |
| 13:39.48 | FlameReaper | because I've observed in some cases HD locked up when I was offline |
| 13:40.08 | freemangordon | FlameReaper: do you have cssu-thumb by chance? |
| 13:40.17 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Error |
| 13:40.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | you being offline doesn't mean your HTML-related mem-hogs got closed |
| 13:40.29 | archeyDevil | Ubuntu won't install the i386 on the x86_64 -.- |
| 13:40.38 | archeyDevil | Ubuntu has multilib crap last time I checked >_< |
| 13:40.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash |
| 13:40.42 | infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 13:41.00 | freemangordon | archeyDevil: just get tarball and extract it |
| 13:41.11 | archeyDevil | freemangordon: Okay |
| 13:41.13 | FlameReaper | freemangordon: I have it, but those freezes occur before I decided to. |
| 13:41.34 | FlameReaper | Still have them now on ocassions, though |
| 13:41.40 | FlameReaper | I mean, freezes. |
| 13:42.00 | freemangordon | I see. did you check your dmesg log for SGX recovery errors? |
| 13:42.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: also >> you are probably on 64 bit and you need to install a libusb compatibility package. For example, on openSUSE 11.4 you just run zypper in libusb-0_1-4-32bit<< |
| 13:42.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | "some notes:" on http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Linux_PC |
| 13:43.11 | FlameReaper | freemangordon: Can't remember if I did |
| 13:43.30 | FlameReaper | I think I only saw it once, but that's probably because I did it only once when I managed to |
| 13:43.50 | FlameReaper | and that probably was when I SSH'd into it |
| 13:43.55 | freemangordon | FlameReaper: do it next time when it happens. and remember - never reboot your phone, do a complete power cycle |
| 13:44.10 | freemangordon | (if reboot is needed) |
| 13:44.15 | FlameReaper | power cycle != reboot? |
| 13:44.17 | FlameReaper | notes |
| 13:44.21 | FlameReaper | Hmm |
| 13:44.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: please read http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware *completely* prior to flashing. Dunno this recommendation once seemed to be on top of that page, isn't anymore |
| 13:44.26 | freemangordon | power off/power on |
| 13:44.28 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: lol! libusb++ |
| 13:44.34 | FlameReaper | Oh |
| 13:44.52 | FlameReaper | And when you said "reboot" do you mean by issuing the "reboot" command? |
| 13:44.57 | archeyDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.58 | archeyDevil | MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOUR LOCK CODE (default: 12345) There has been at least one report where a device started to ask for lock code after reflashing! |
| 13:45.02 | archeyDevil | How to get past that? |
| 13:45.05 | archeyDevil | never knew the code |
| 13:45.12 | freemangordon | FlameReaper: yes |
| 13:45.22 | archeyDevil | Got the phone off eBay for $120 second hand several months back |
| 13:45.23 | FlameReaper | archeyDevil: Did you ever use the lock code? |
| 13:45.30 | FlameReaper | Oh. |
| 13:45.30 | archeyDevil | ^_^ Second hand |
| 13:45.34 | *** join/#maemo alehorst (~alehorst@177.16.37.167) |
| 13:45.35 | archeyDevil | Never touched lock codes |
| 13:45.56 | FlameReaper | In my case, the previous owner almost never did anything with the phone, it was as good as brand new |
| 13:46.16 | archeyDevil | Mine pretty much |
| 13:46.19 | archeyDevil | few scratches |
| 13:46.27 | archeyDevil | just a bubble under the screen protecter |
| 13:46.29 | FlameReaper | so supposedly the could should stay 12345 |
| 13:46.34 | FlameReaper | *lock code |
| 13:46.36 | archeyDevil | slightly worn keyboard |
| 13:46.58 | archeyDevil | wtf ubuntu?? |
| 13:47.02 | archeyDevil | ls flaser-3.5 |
| 13:47.06 | archeyDevil | ./flasher-3.5 |
| 13:47.09 | archeyDevil | not found |
| 13:47.11 | archeyDevil | flasher * |
| 13:47.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | if your lockcode kicks in, you'll have to do complete flash (vanilla as well) |
| 13:47.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I told you some hours ago |
| 13:47.23 | archeyDevil | is using tab auto completion!! |
| 13:47.36 | archeyDevil | Okay |
| 13:47.45 | archeyDevil | flasher >> Why not working? wtf? |
| 13:47.47 | FlameReaper | archeyDevil: Try "chmod +x ./flasher-3.5" ? |
| 13:48.00 | FlameReaper | and then try running it again. |
| 13:48.00 | freemangordon | wrong architecture |
| 13:48.11 | archeyDevil | did |
| 13:48.18 | freemangordon | ^^^ |
| 13:48.22 | archeyDevil | freemangordon: Yupp |
| 13:48.25 | archeyDevil | No x86_64? |
| 13:48.33 | freemangordon | install 32bit compat libraries |
| 13:48.45 | archeyDevil | doesn't use ubuntu. Mind guiding? |
| 13:48.59 | archeyDevil | uses the rather easy to use archlinux ;) |
| 13:49.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-10-03 15:42:15] <DocScrutinizer05> archeyDevil: also >> you are probably on 64 bit and you need to install a libusb compatibility package. For example, on openSUSE 11.4 you just run zypper in libusb-0_1-4-32bit<< |
| 13:49.02 | vi_ | ..°.°... ... |
| 13:49.12 | FlameReaper | ... I have no words. |
| 13:49.15 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Need 32 bit stuff |
| 13:49.19 | freemangordon | well, i got them as a part of wine installation |
| 13:49.26 | archeyDevil | FlameReaper: I tried that did nothing |
| 13:49.31 | archeyDevil | ubuntu wouldn't even say it's a file |
| 13:49.49 | freemangordon | archeyDevil: and what google has to say about it? |
| 13:50.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: where you stored your flasher-3.5? |
| 13:50.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | by any odds that's maybe VFAT fs? |
| 13:50.52 | *** join/#maemo Dibblah (~Dibblah@host86-163-221-238.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:51.20 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: in root's home dir |
| 13:51.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, should be fine |
| 13:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls -l ./fla* |
| 13:51.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | paste here |
| 13:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | (no more than 3 lines please!) |
| 13:52.36 | archeyDevil | here.. |
| 13:53.01 | archeyDevil | http://pastebin.com/xGReP6Ud |
| 13:53.04 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: how about one? |
| 13:53.38 | archeyDevil | I'm missing the lib32 crap I guess |
| 13:54.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | so a mere >> ./flasher-3.5 << gives you what? |
| 13:54.39 | archeyDevil | -bash: ./flasher-3.5: No such file or directory <<< RETARTED UBUNTU |
| 13:55.01 | archeyDevil | uses tab to auto complete ^_^ |
| 13:55.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's kinda odd, but I kinda recall that |
| 13:55.14 | archeyDevil | Suggestions? |
| 13:55.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm |
| 13:55.38 | archeyDevil | Please don't say get i386 :P |
| 13:55.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, see above post re libusb-0_1-4-32bit |
| 13:55.57 | FlameReaper | DocScrutinizer05: VFat? |
| 13:56.01 | archeyDevil | Acturally |
| 13:56.06 | FlameReaper | I mean, will that happen on vfat? |
| 13:56.09 | archeyDevil | ?? |
| 13:56.12 | archeyDevil | Where link?? |
| 13:56.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | FlameReaper: on VFAT there's no +x |
| 13:56.33 | FlameReaper | Ah |
| 13:56.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash |
| 13:56.34 | infobot | somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 13:57.02 | archeyDevil | stuff it. ima reboot into i386 ubuntu 10.10 |
| 13:57.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | good plan :-) |
| 13:57.29 | archeyDevil | downgrading more :P |
| 13:58.08 | archeyDevil | This better be i686 |
| 13:58.43 | *** join/#maemo rm_work (~rm_you@johnx.xen.prgmr.com) |
| 13:58.43 | *** join/#maemo rm_work (~rm_you@Maemo/community/cssu/rm-you) |
| 13:58.54 | FlameReaper | ... |
| 13:59.05 | FlameReaper | i686 and i386 isn't the same thing? |
| 13:59.43 | archeyDevil | FlameReaper: Close enough - are cap. |
| 13:59.54 | archeyDevil | In Linux atleast |
| 14:00.00 | archeyDevil | It's all i686 anyhow |
| 14:00.17 | archeyDevil | i386 doesn't really exist anymore lol. (VERY old computers have i386) |
| 14:00.50 | FlameReaper | Hmm |
| 14:01.08 | archeyDevil | Eh. you know what I mean i386 * i686 |
| 14:01.12 | archeyDevil | Eh |
| 14:01.27 | archeyDevil | i386 in use |
| 14:01.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya guys, I have to take a few minutes of breathing real fresh air out in the big Bluebox |
| 14:01.39 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Okay |
| 14:01.46 | archeyDevil | needs to sleep and get fresh air too.. |
| 14:02.55 | FlameReaper | Hmm |
| 14:02.56 | archeyDevil | Yay a noicy ubuntu :D |
| 14:03.01 | archeyDevil | 10.10 makes noise :P |
| 14:03.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders setting up a tiny openSuse custom distro live image, with flasher-3.5 and all the good fiaco images preinstalled. Shouldn't be more than maybe 200MB download |
| 14:03.05 | FlameReaper | But as far as I can remember |
| 14:03.21 | archeyDevil | O.o |
| 14:03.22 | FlameReaper | it's both x86 |
| 14:03.28 | archeyDevil | I like ths sound of that :) |
| 14:03.44 | FlameReaper | ... Or |
| 14:03.46 | archeyDevil | if I can't get this done. Mind uploading somewhere? |
| 14:03.57 | FlameReaper | Since this is *buntu we're talking about |
| 14:04.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the plan, if ever I get around to do it |
| 14:04.18 | FlameReaper | an easier way to do things is to get the *.deb installer for the flasher |
| 14:04.33 | FlameReaper | < to me anyway ._. |
| 14:04.51 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Just don't add any virus, backdoor etc lol |
| 14:04.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~buntkuh |
| 14:04.54 | infobot | buntkuh is, like, http://xkcd.com/424/ ... Redmond, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein-Rind |
| 14:05.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: no need for that, I already got my backdoor exploit sneaked into all existing linux kernels ;-D |
| 14:06.03 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: lol |
| 14:06.38 | archeyDevil | is surprised no one has uploaded a device driver that makes a USB w fakable details to be a rootsh no login :) |
| 14:06.42 | archeyDevil | Get that into android ;) |
| 14:06.49 | archeyDevil | USB cable. rootsh :D |
| 14:07.23 | archeyDevil | Crap.. |
| 14:07.27 | archeyDevil | gotta redownload this image haha |
| 14:08.24 | archeyDevil | firefox crashed -. |
| 14:08.25 | archeyDevil | -.- |
| 14:08.27 | *** join/#maemo hardaker (~hardaker@mail.hardakers.net) |
| 14:08.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: once you're past your debricking (or even now...) you might want to search ~jrtools for details you find useful |
| 14:09.06 | archeyDevil | wtf.. |
| 14:09.28 | archeyDevil | Could not launch "terminal" failed to execuite chile process ... (input.output error) >_< |
| 14:09.45 | archeyDevil | ~jrtools |
| 14:09.45 | infobot | rumour has it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 14:10.27 | archeyDevil | WTF UBUNTU!! |
| 14:10.28 | archeyDevil | -.- |
| 14:10.32 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: I need your image |
| 14:10.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, that's vapourware |
| 14:10.58 | archeyDevil | huh? |
| 14:10.59 | FlameReaper | watches on as he tilts his head looking at someone who has problems with ubuntu |
| 14:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | archeyDevil: I haven't done it yet |
| 14:11.24 | archeyDevil | FlameReaper: I don't have issues with good systems, just noob systems. |
| 14:11.28 | archeyDevil | TOO POINT/CLICK!! |
| 14:11.35 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Damn.. |
| 14:11.49 | FlameReaper | tilts his head to the other side |
| 14:12.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives |
| 14:12.47 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Where should I start from? |
| 14:12.54 | archeyDevil | This ubuntu doesn't wanna give me gnome-terminal >_< |
| 14:12.58 | archeyDevil | still got tty tho |
| 14:13.25 | archeyDevil | yea squashfs died |
| 14:13.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://software.opensuse.org/122/en KDE live maybe? |
| 14:14.19 | archeyDevil | 4.7GB DVD |
| 14:14.21 | archeyDevil | I think not |
| 14:14.31 | archeyDevil | Download speed 200-400KB/sex |
| 14:14.42 | archeyDevil | has been talking to GF too often.... |
| 14:14.44 | archeyDevil | sec ** |
| 14:15.24 | freemangordon | archeyDevil: WTF are you doing? how is that ubuntu does not have gnome terminal? |
| 14:15.39 | archeyDevil | freemangordon: io errors |
| 14:15.40 | archeyDevil | lol |
| 14:15.53 | archeyDevil | I'm waiting for it to boot again |
| 14:15.55 | archeyDevil | SOO SLOW |
| 14:16.09 | archeyDevil | would be using archlinux for this but flasher doesn't like my x86_64 |
| 14:16.34 | archeyDevil | And my arch i386 doesn't boot :P |
| 14:16.57 | FlameReaper | io errors? |
| 14:17.04 | archeyDevil | FlameReaper: livecd |
| 14:17.13 | FlameReaper | Figures |
| 14:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/12.2/iso/openSUSE-12.2-KDE-LiveCD-i686.iso 671MB |
| 14:17.23 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: too big |
| 14:17.24 | archeyDevil | lol |
| 14:17.38 | archeyDevil | Will take about 45 minutes to download haha |
| 14:17.40 | archeyDevil | maybe longer |
| 14:17.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm away now anyway |
| 14:17.57 | freemangordon | archeyDevil: i really wonder what are you doing, but once unity is removed, ubuntu is absolutely fine |
| 14:17.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry |
| 14:17.59 | archeyDevil | D: |
| 14:18.12 | archeyDevil | freemangordon: ubuntu 10.10 ;) |
| 14:18.21 | archeyDevil | No unity ♥ |
| 14:18.23 | freemangordon | aah, so no uninty |
| 14:18.49 | archeyDevil | rathers tiler window managers or tmux :) |
| 14:19.02 | archeyDevil | tmux = tty "window manager" :D |
| 14:19.04 | freemangordon | you should not have any problems. Besides PEBKAC |
| 14:19.05 | archeyDevil | screen is meh |
| 14:19.17 | archeyDevil | PEBKAC? |
| 14:19.27 | freemangordon | ~pebkac |
| 14:19.27 | infobot | PEBKAC: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair. |
| 14:19.31 | freemangordon | :P |
| 14:19.40 | archeyDevil | No chair :S |
| 14:19.55 | freemangordon | well, get one |
| 14:20.01 | FlameReaper | freemangordon: I favored KDE out of the rest of the DEs I have seen. |
| 14:20.10 | archeyDevil | dafaqbnu? |
| 14:20.23 | archeyDevil | dafaqbuntu? |
| 14:20.38 | freemangordon | FlameReaper: i've ever preffered gnome over KDE, but don;t ask me why :D |
| 14:20.58 | FlameReaper | I don't need to guess. |
| 14:21.03 | FlameReaper | Or rather, I shouldn't. |
| 14:21.03 | freemangordon | excuding Fedora (core1) |
| 14:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | fact is: for flashing N900 you don't need any friggin X at all, even less any desktop-manager |
| 14:21.29 | archeyDevil | This is what I'd prefure more http://jamesm.com.au/ -- Look at the screenshots :D |
| 14:21.45 | freemangordon | FlameReaper: yeah, unfortunately I am using windoze much more than I would like to |
| 14:22.02 | FlameReaper | freemangordon: Hey, I keep winlol too. |
| 14:22.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | only thing you'd need X for is that friggin download from that IMEI "secured" webpage, via browser |
| 14:22.16 | FlameReaper | Just because it's inside when I bought my laptop. |
| 14:22.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | (even that *might* be possibly with lynx or sth ;-P) |
| 14:22.48 | freemangordon | even my home pc still runs XP, I just cannot find the week of free time needed to migrate everything under linux |
| 14:23.00 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Not really. w3m will do fine too :) |
| 14:24.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | w3m == lynx ?? |
| 14:24.25 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: no |
| 14:24.35 | archeyDevil | lynx can't use framebuffer for images ;) |
| 14:24.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 14:24.56 | archeyDevil | But similar |
| 14:25.12 | archeyDevil | jpg or png only can't recal which |
| 14:25.15 | archeyDevil | recall * |
| 14:25.28 | archeyDevil | libim deals with the fb |
| 14:25.37 | trx | hm, does the autobuilder no longer have internet access in the build process? |
| 14:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd love to set up curl or wget to download those friggin images and binary without any "web-browsing" user activity |
| 14:26.08 | archeyDevil | +1 |
| 14:26.27 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: You make a flasher OS and I'll help you get it out there ;) |
| 14:26.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | open a requester: "please enter your IMEI" preconfigured to show the publicly known working IMEI |
| 14:26.34 | archeyDevil | Make sure it supports more than just nokia lol |
| 14:27.00 | vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: luke-jr wrote a script to do just that. It even used your imei to authenticate. |
| 14:27.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh |
| 14:27.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: link? |
| 14:27.21 | vi_ | cannot remember |
| 14:27.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 14:27.32 | vi_ | was months ago. |
| 14:27.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | summons luke-jr |
| 14:27.41 | archeyDevil | vi_: firefox Ctrl+h |
| 14:27.59 | archeyDevil | firefox.crashcount # 4 |
| 14:28.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | your PC is fsckdup |
| 14:28.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | or it's just |
| 14:28.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~buntkuh |
| 14:28.36 | infobot | from memory, buntkuh is http://xkcd.com/424/ ... Redmond, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein-Rind |
| 14:28.58 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: My PC is perfect w\ io error'n HDD and limited lvm parition space + crypto. :) |
| 14:29.14 | archeyDevil | firefox.crashcount # 5 |
| 14:29.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, use other browser! |
| 14:29.30 | archeyDevil | wikki.maemo.org crashes firefox xD |
| 14:29.52 | archeyDevil | oh lol |
| 14:29.55 | archeyDevil | io errors again |
| 14:30.02 | archeyDevil | Bai bai ubuntu 10.10 *snap* |
| 14:30.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | your PC is fsckdup |
| 14:30.20 | archeyDevil | ubuntu livecd is snapped |
| 14:30.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | IO errors usually HW |
| 14:31.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | also boot taking eternal indicates your CD is full of bad / poor sectors |
| 14:31.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | making drive retry all the time, can take minutes |
| 14:32.00 | archeyDevil | DocScrutinizer05: Work on your flasher OS ;) |
| 14:32.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | or CD drive lase lens covered with dirt |
| 14:32.16 | archeyDevil | has to wait 3 plus days before he can continue with this flashing |
| 14:32.51 | archeyDevil | Girlfriend is having a movie night tomorrow. and I have lots of homework to do :| |
| 14:32.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya then, for good now. I'm really feeling embarassed by this running gag of me never getting away from PC |
| 14:33.12 | archeyDevil | hates school. Learn nothing. I know that I can hack their wifi with my phone! (after being unbricked ;) ) |
| 14:33.16 | archeyDevil | lol |
| 14:33.16 | archeyDevil | Bai bai |
| 14:33.33 | archeyDevil | ( I know cause I have ) |
| 14:33.36 | archeyDevil | lol @ certs |
| 14:33.41 | archeyDevil | Bai bai. -- offline. |
| 14:42.32 | trx | does the autobuilder no longer have internet access in the build process(i used it before to checkout some svn sources and compile them in the buld proccess)? |
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| 14:48.57 | vi_ | archeyDevil: ctrl+h?? what? |
| 14:49.55 | vi_ | archeyDevil: heh, school is the best years of your life son. ENjoy it while you can. |
| 14:57.19 | trx | X-Fade ping |
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| 14:58.54 | grammoboy | hm I had a phone call but can't find the number or event on my phone |
| 14:59.16 | grammoboy | I like to know who was that guy who called me |
| 14:59.24 | grammoboy | n900 |
| 15:00.53 | grammoboy | everything seems to work, except the phone has some issues apparently :) |
| 15:01.00 | grammoboy | real geeky |
| 15:01.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it's not in call log, it probably isn't in eventsdb either (maybe due to that db being corrupted or just too large). Odds are you'll never find out |
| 15:01.53 | grammoboy | hm i'll call myself to check it out |
| 15:03.15 | FlameReaper | DocScrutinizer05: Looks like I forgot something when I asked about HD behavior back then - I suppose when HD is in that state, any calls made to me won't get through, is it? |
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| 15:04.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | grammoboy: ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db |
| 15:04.47 | grammoboy | rejected call gets notified |
| 15:04.56 | grammoboy | accepted call give no info afterwards |
| 15:05.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
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| 15:05.31 | FlameReaper | Notifications yes |
| 15:05.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty much sounds like corrupted sqlite db |
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| 15:06.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | FlameReaper: HD in which state? |
| 15:06.31 | FlameReaper | DocScrutinizer05: The state of freezing I mentioned earlier |
| 15:06.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends |
| 15:06.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | call-ui is mostly independent of HD |
| 15:06.59 | FlameReaper | Hmm |
| 15:07.15 | FlameReaper | Might be an X-related problem |
| 15:07.44 | FlameReaper | since any calls made to my phone will have the dialtone, indicating my phone should be ringing |
| 15:08.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | use htop etc to check general system sanity |
| 15:08.20 | FlameReaper | Hmm |
| 15:08.33 | FlameReaper | Might need to do that while SSH'd |
| 15:08.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be sth hogging CPU, dbus, swap+freemem, whatever |
| 15:08.43 | FlameReaper | else when that happens I completely lose control |
| 15:08.49 | FlameReaper | of the phone |
| 15:09.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually powerbutton "kill this task" still works |
| 15:10.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | though not instantly |
| 15:10.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | quite usually you find your device has entered swap hell |
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| 15:10.41 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what was that about completely disabling modest? |
| 15:10.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, that |
| 15:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | could you repeat the question? ;-P |
| 15:11.44 | kerio | how do i do it |
| 15:11.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | see backscroll |
| 15:11.56 | grammoboy | hm |
| 15:11.59 | kerio | i don't want to see backscroll D: |
| 15:12.00 | kerio | it's long |
| 15:12.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | comment out the autostart line in modest.desktop |
| 15:12.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | kill activesync |
| 15:12.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask original poster about further stuff needed |
| 15:12.39 | grammoboy | user users 13160448 |
| 15:12.50 | grammoboy | ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db |
| 15:13.00 | FlameReaper | [23:10] <DocScrutinizer05> quite usually you find your device has entered swap hell |
| 15:13.23 | FlameReaper | I suppose I should try a restore of the system's default swap configuration |
| 15:13.27 | FlameReaper | since I was using swappolube |
| 15:13.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh |
| 15:13.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty sure you should |
| 15:13.46 | FlameReaper | I should've mentioned that earlier |
| 15:13.54 | kerio | hehehe, i really wonder how i'm going to recover from the lack of a swap partition if my uSD fucks up |
| 15:14.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | grammoboy: kinda large |
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| 15:14.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | lots of SMS? |
| 15:14.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and other stuff? |
| 15:14.51 | grammoboy | DocScrutinizer05, no the previous owner has completely rm everything |
| 15:15.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | still kinda large |
| 15:15.11 | grammoboy | DocScrutinizer05, but I get now an sms from one year ago |
| 15:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 user users 601088 2012-10-02 14:15 /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db |
| 15:15.19 | kerio | vi_: is modest removable without too many issues? |
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| 15:15.44 | grammoboy | hm |
| 15:16.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | grammoboy: and that's a db used since 2 years something, and never got cleared |
| 15:16.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm doing extremely little SMs and calls though |
| 15:17.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | average for sure no more than one/day |
| 15:17.28 | grammoboy | DocScrutinizer05, new txt message :) |
| 15:17.45 | grammoboy | DocScrutinizer05, someone is in love but not with me, all though it looks she is |
| 15:18.03 | grammoboy | really something odd going on here |
| 15:18.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | try to find a way to reset/clean that database |
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| 15:18.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | (sorry no other way than reflashing known to me, though I bet there has to be) |
| 15:19.11 | trx | any idea who maintains the auto builder? |
| 15:19.26 | trx | (and possibly how to contact them) |
| 15:19.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | a simple mv /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db_away may cause system to create it new on next boot |
| 15:19.39 | grammoboy | http://www.parorrey.com/blog/technology/resolve-disappearing-conversations-and-sms-text-messages-sending-failed-problem-on-nokia-n900/ |
| 15:20.02 | kerio | open it with sqlite3 and reindex it |
| 15:20.04 | kerio | or something |
| 15:20.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | trx: X-Fade |
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| 15:21.35 | vi_ | kerio: I do not want to remove modest entirely, just stop it from randomly starting on it's own accord. |
| 15:21.41 | vi_ | I have removed mfe. |
| 15:21.45 | kerio | :o |
| 15:21.47 | kerio | neat |
| 15:21.49 | vi_ | It seems to have mostly done it. |
| 15:21.52 | kerio | with activesync? |
| 15:22.16 | vi_ | activesync is GONE. |
| 15:22.18 | kerio | vi_: what's the package called? |
| 15:23.03 | vi_ | as-daemon-0 |
| 15:23.32 | kerio | what about as-config-applet-0 or as-utils or libas-common-utils-0 or libas-storage-0 or modest-as-plugin-0 or camel-as-provider-0 |
| 15:23.38 | vi_ | kerio: http://cxg.de/_4ad92a.htm |
| 15:23.39 | trx | DocScrutinizer05 thanks |
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| 15:24.06 | vi_ | some of those get nuked as they are dependancies. |
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| 15:24.16 | kerio | meh, i think i'm ok with leaving an empty daemon that does nothing |
| 15:24.23 | kerio | vi_: not here, idk why |
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| 15:24.54 | vi_ | well, it means I can now kill modest to free up some ram for browsing internet pr0n. |
| 15:25.04 | kerio | yay pr0n |
| 15:25.13 | kerio | and with flash player 10, pretty much every streaming website works :D |
| 15:25.40 | SpeedEvil | :-) |
| 15:25.45 | kerio | anyway, where's that script? /etc/network/ifup.d/ ? |
| 15:25.47 | freemangordon | vi_: even with -thumb you still don;t have enough free RAM?!? |
| 15:26.03 | kerio | those are called *after* the IP side is done, right? |
| 15:26.15 | kerio | freemangordon: you always need moar ram, no exceptions |
| 15:26.21 | kerio | because you always need moar pr0n |
| 15:26.38 | vi_ | 8 tabs of pr0n will not play in no ram. |
| 15:26.44 | kerio | haha |
| 15:26.58 | kerio | my pr0n browsing is strictly serial |
| 15:27.02 | vi_ | kerio: You wanted the if-up.d script. |
| 15:27.05 | kerio | no parallel browsing |
| 15:27.12 | kerio | vi_: yes i did, and for that i thank you |
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| 15:27.32 | vi_ | just rip out my junk and put in some curl magic. |
| 15:27.36 | kerio | yeah, yeah |
| 15:27.46 | freemangordon | but, but,... how do you watch them simultaneously |
| 15:27.56 | freemangordon | :P |
| 15:27.57 | kerio | freemangordon: tasknav :D |
| 15:28.09 | vi_ | freemangordon: mplayer+easydebian+dwm |
| 15:28.13 | freemangordon | don;t work, mp stops when not in focus ;) |
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| 15:28.26 | freemangordon | aah, I see |
| 15:28.51 | vi_ | Is it possible to make the tasknav previews bigger? |
| 15:29.00 | freemangordon | vi_: well, I am preparing a new update to support your p0rn |
| 15:29.03 | freemangordon | vi_: yes |
| 15:29.09 | freemangordon | edit transittions.ini |
| 15:29.21 | grammoboy | ok second option of that link helped me out |
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| 15:29.38 | kerio | vi_: hm, does ICD2 disconnect wlan0 before connecting gprs0? |
| 15:30.44 | vi_ | kerio: I dont know. |
| 15:31.27 | kerio | vi_: also, is the output logged somewhere? |
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| 15:43.16 | vi_ | kerio: NFC |
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| 15:45.33 | ShadowJK | i think it keeps old connection until new is established |
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| 15:55.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: definitely keeps old vonnection until new gets established |
| 15:57.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | log could get logged into /var/log/syslog, /var/log/*(/*), or any other randomly picked file the devels of ICD thought might be funny |
| 15:57.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: logger foobar anyway logs foobar to syslog, unconditionally |
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| 15:59.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: an `exec 2>>/your/stderr_logfile` at beginning of any script is a nice way to have a log. same for stdout without the "2" in it |
| 16:00.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | exec 2>>/your/logfile_all 1>&2 |
| 16:01.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | or... |
| 16:01.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | exec 2>>/your/logfile_all 1>>&2 |
| 16:01.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | not sure right now |
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| 16:03.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | does anybody know of semantics in 3>&5 ? will it reopen FD5 or just set FD3 to the content already existing in FD5, without new open() ? |
| 16:05.11 | kerio | ShadowJK: no big deal, i can check for IFACE |
| 16:05.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E will pointers in FD3 point to same location as those in FD5 after that, or will FD3 pointers point to default? |
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| 16:07.12 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: can i assume grep, awk and cut are just there in the path? |
| 16:08.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | yet another way of wording it: will the code execute fd5=fd3, or will it execute fopen(fd5, &fd3) ? |
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| 16:08.31 | kerio | ugh, why is ifconfig wlan0 | grep "inet addr" | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ print $1 }' the easiest way to get the ip address for a particular interface? |
| 16:08.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: you generally shouldn't assume much for your $PATH in scripts |
| 16:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | though core system commands are probably supposed to be available via $PATH |
| 16:10.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: good question |
| 16:10.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: also don't forget to setenv LANG=C; export LANG prior to that |
| 16:10.52 | kerio | ugh, good point |
| 16:11.06 | kerio | fucking bullshit |
| 16:13.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | awk '{ print $1 }' however looks kinda awkward |
| 16:13.38 | kerio | what should i do? |
| 16:15.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe sed "s/.*inet addr:\([0-9a-f.]*\).*/\1/" |
| 16:16.22 | kerio | it's still a fucking dumbbullshitsauce |
| 16:16.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, sure |
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| 16:17.07 | kerio | wait, a-f? |
| 16:17.18 | kerio | what kind of silly ipv4 addresses have you been using? :o |
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| 16:21.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no a-f |
| 16:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbl |
| 16:21.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the sed cmd should replace cut and awk |
| 16:22.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and, if a bit improved, may also replace grep |
| 16:23.45 | kerio | no seriously, this is dumb as hell |
| 16:29.49 | kerio | alright, LANG=C /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 should work |
| 16:29.55 | kerio | this is some *serious* bullshit |
| 16:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet there's some way to find out about IP addr of a NIC in an unambiguous form |
| 16:34.46 | kerio | well, i haven't found it |
| 16:34.53 | kerio | probably using ip instead of ifconfig |
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| 16:35.00 | kerio | but that's just a different text substitution |
| 16:35.01 | kerio | fukken unix |
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| 16:38.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | or that >>Wanting to read interface addresses reeks of a design problem.<< |
| 16:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | fukken unix noob ;-P |
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| 16:41.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9941030/get-ip-address-of-local-nic-from-kernel-module/9946953#9946953 |
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| 16:44.38 | kerio | hahahaha |
| 16:44.40 | merlin1991 | ip addr show $interface |
| 16:44.48 | merlin1991 | though ip does not exist on maemo5 |
| 16:44.57 | kerio | sure it does |
| 16:45.07 | kerio | in busybox-power >:D |
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| 16:45.18 | merlin1991 | -sh: ip: not found |
| 16:45.19 | kerio | merlin1991: even then, it doesn't just show the ip |
| 16:47.18 | Pali | merlin1991, ip is in package iproute |
| 16:47.39 | Pali | I pushed new version to extras-devel |
| 16:48.28 | Pali | ifconfig is deprecated on linux >= 2.6 (or 2.4 ?) |
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| 16:49.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | like ntpdate ? |
| 16:49.38 | kerio | ugh, nokia GPG keys are expired |
| 16:49.44 | kerio | this is going to be fucking awful |
| 16:49.53 | merlin1991 | the main reason ifconfig is deprecated, because each and every version produces a different output |
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| 16:50.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | deprecated core unix commands are very hard to kill |
| 16:50.07 | merlin1991 | and then it can't set everything new kernels support :D |
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| 16:50.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | fair enough |
| 16:50.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ip seems nice, once you recall it exists ;-D |
| 16:51.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | IF it exists |
| 16:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | XP |
| 16:51.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
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| 16:53.26 | kerio | ip -4 addr show dev wlan0 | grep inet | awk '{ print $2 }' | cut -d/ -f1 |
| 16:53.28 | kerio | LOL |
| 16:56.57 | Pali | kerio, it print all assigned ipv4 address |
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| 16:57.14 | Pali | ifconfig show only first ip address, ip show all |
| 16:57.18 | kerio | i just want one :'( |
| 16:57.54 | Pali | | head -1 |
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| 16:59.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay |
| 17:00.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Wanting to read interface addresses reeks of a design problem.<< http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9941030/get-ip-address-of-local-nic-from-kernel-module/9946953#9946953 |
| 17:00.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | WTF would you need to do this anyway? |
| 17:00.53 | kerio | it's not my fault, bluesocket wants the ip passed as a POST parameter |
| 17:01.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | unix commands are built in a way you usually shouldn't need to know your own IP |
| 17:01.12 | kerio | i suppose that a much cleaner way would be to actually fetch the login page, and mechanize it |
| 17:02.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf bluesocket? |
| 17:02.13 | kerio | a wifi hotspot thingy |
| 17:02.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUCH |
| 17:02.24 | kerio | my university's wifi uses it |
| 17:03.56 | kerio | yeah, i know |
| 17:04.37 | kerio | /usr/bin/curl -Lk -d "_FORM_SUBMIT=1&which_form=reg&destination=&source=${IP}&error=&bs_name=REDACTED&bs_password=REDACTED" https://wifigw2.uniroma1.it/login.pl |
| 17:04.43 | kerio | this shit right here |
| 17:04.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the life of mine I couldn't figure WTF a HTTP URL has to know your NIC's IP for, they should *know* it from you talking to them via that very NIC |
| 17:05.00 | kerio | i know, but it's a parameter that's passed in the web page itself |
| 17:05.04 | kerio | and i don't know if i can skip it |
| 17:05.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | hands kerio a huge LART |
| 17:05.30 | kerio | iirc i tried with just user and password, and it didn't work |
| 17:05.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | for applying it to your university's admins |
| 17:07.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I guess you have to get prior form from server via curl, it will contain that crap with correct parameters |
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| 17:08.17 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: or i can just pass a random IP and hope that it's not actually needed |
| 17:09.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's all so incredibly silly |
| 17:09.37 | kerio | i know |
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| 17:09.48 | kerio | the wifi hotspot is incredibly silly |
| 17:09.57 | kerio | i think it goes by mac address, anyway |
| 17:10.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | has to leave that starnge world of silly admins and IT at alrge, and get some food |
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| 17:32.30 | kerio | will nokia eventually sign the packages with a non-expired key again? |
| 17:32.37 | kerio | i've got a bunch of KEYEXPIRED |
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| 17:45.24 | RST38h | BGR has learned that the Redmond, Washington-based company plans to release its own Windows Phone 8 smartphone in the coming months. |
| 17:45.34 | RST38h | laughs satanically |
| 17:55.55 | freemangordon | Pali: ping |
| 17:56.08 | Pali | freemangordon, pong |
| 17:58.26 | freemangordon | Pali: does u-boot includes my patches for thumb2? |
| 17:58.30 | freemangordon | *include |
| 17:58.40 | freemangordon | setting of IBE bit that is |
| 17:58.42 | Pali | I think yes |
| 17:58.52 | freemangordon | can you check it? |
| 17:59.10 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/u-boot-shr/u-boot |
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| 17:59.28 | freemangordon | Pali: is that what you have used to make .debs? |
| 17:59.43 | Pali | yes, branch pali |
| 18:00.09 | Pali | board code is here: https://gitorious.org/u-boot-shr/u-boot/blobs/pali/board/nokia/rx51/rx51.c |
| 18:00.35 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/u-boot-shr/u-boot/blobs/pali/board/nokia/rx51/rx51.c#line383 |
| 18:01.07 | freemangordon | hmm, where is my name? :P |
| 18:01.13 | freemangordon | ok, it is included |
| 18:01.38 | Pali | I will add your name when I rebase patches on top of current "master" |
| 18:01.42 | Pali | :-) |
| 18:02.19 | Pali | I'm waiting for including ansi terminal support in framebuffer driver |
| 18:02.26 | Pali | in upstream |
| 18:02.28 | freemangordon | :) |
| 18:03.30 | Pali | ~seen jonwil |
| 18:03.33 | infobot | jonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 30d 7h 35m 2s ago, saying: 'yay, my N900 is finally fixed :)'. |
| 18:03.39 | Pali | where is jonwil? |
| 18:03.53 | freemangordon | hehe, he has his toy back :D:D:D |
| 18:04.02 | Pali | is he alive? |
| 18:04.16 | freemangordon | ~seen zeq |
| 18:04.16 | infobot | zeq <~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:1:e6ec:10ff:fe9a:d418> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 20d 4h 1m 8s ago, saying: 'hi freemangordon'. |
| 18:04.26 | Pali | what happened to his n900? |
| 18:05.36 | freemangordon | NFC, gatters dust |
| 18:05.47 | freemangordon | but he got it |
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| 18:07.37 | freemangordon | well, the last time we talked he said that he has some job |
| 18:08.06 | freemangordon | having in mind he is a freelancer, ... |
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| 18:54.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 18:55.44 | kerio | hahaha |
| 18:55.46 | kerio | he ran away with the n900 |
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| 19:12.50 | Woody14619 | :P I so hate flying... |
| 19:13.21 | Woody14619 | Have a fun election folks... I'll see you on the other side. Work becons... |
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| 19:23.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah |
| 19:23.59 | Pali | freemangordon, now I rebased rx51 patches on top of u-boot master and booting kernel in qemu working... |
| 19:24.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I so hate flying... - he said, and took a flight out of IRC and to work |
| 19:25.44 | Pali | I added code which reuse bootmode (normal, update - for emmc flash) + added 2 global env variables (setup_boot_mode_atag, setup_boot_reason_atag) which overwrite bootmode and bootreason |
| 19:26.15 | Pali | freemangordon, + added your name to code :-) |
| 19:27.26 | freemangordon | Pali: good :D |
| 19:27.49 | freemangordon | how is the upstreaming process developing? |
| 19:28.02 | Pali | freemangordon, two features missing: 1) display brightness support 2) battery charging |
| 19:28.24 | Pali | after changes I will resend patches again |
| 19:28.54 | Pali | I can write battery charging support (rewrite charge21.sh to u-boot) |
| 19:29.21 | Pali | but for display brightness is needed to write function for communication via SPI |
| 19:30.36 | internetishard | Do I need to kill any daemons before moving the message db (el-v1.db) and replacing it? |
| 19:32.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | no |
| 19:32.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | somply move it |
| 19:32.28 | internetishard | It doesn't get written to until... some special time? |
| 19:32.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | just *then* reboot |
| 19:32.39 | internetishard | ah, okay! |
| 19:33.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | keep a backup! |
| 19:33.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | also better do a bm full backup before, just in case |
| 19:34.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~bm |
| 19:34.12 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 19:34.39 | internetishard | srsy? Why would I have to do that? |
| 19:35.24 | internetishard | That'll be like Gigs... I just took el-v1.db and tried to fix it's corruption... made a new db out of it. and I'll put it back and see if it worked |
| 19:37.35 | internetishard | DocScrutinizer are you saying this file might depend upon something? |
| 19:40.03 | kerio | internetishard: nah, it's like half a gig in total |
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| 19:43.28 | internetishard | I don't see why messing with this file is backup worthy... Maybe it contains something I don't know about... |
| 19:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, wut? |
| 19:45.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's the problem with doing a bm backup? it's not like it's stored to an NFS volume anyway |
| 19:45.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | won't even leave your beloved N900 |
| 19:45.57 | kerio | heh, i almost do a BM backup every time i reboot |
| 19:46.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless your remove the uSD or do a mass-storage backup of MyDocs |
| 19:47.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | BM is the smartest thing since sliced bread got invented |
| 19:47.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you're really supposed to use it a *lot* |
| 19:48.02 | internetishard | The slicing of bread has been deprecated |
| 19:48.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | for sure it's mandatory to do BM backup before messing with system files |
| 19:48.33 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: if only we had incremental BM backups... |
| 19:49.12 | internetishard | yes, there should be a cloud solution |
| 19:49.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: move all those to a single tar.gz file, the dictionary will hopefully do the rest |
| 19:49.39 | internetishard | not just for user file |
| 19:49.45 | internetishard | It would be quit easy to create |
| 19:49.58 | internetishard | and might use backupmenu as a part of the process - but automatically. |
| 19:50.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | FSCK CLOUD!!! >:-(( |
| 19:50.24 | internetishard | DocScrutinizer I don't follow |
| 19:50.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | only defined clouds are thpose in the sky |
| 19:50.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | aqnd those I blow when smoking |
| 19:51.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | a) BM can't get automated (at least not easily) since it runs during boot |
| 19:52.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | b) how T F is BM supposed to access any "cloud" (ooh this term!!), when it doesn't even have WLAN? |
| 19:52.17 | internetishard | It couldn't get set? |
| 19:52.37 | internetishard | I don't think it would be necessary. But yes, I'm talking about an automation 'in the cloud' solution |
| 19:53.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | internetishard: you obviously don't get the purpose of BM. It does a full disk image (though on file level). For this to work, nothing must mess with the disk during snapshot is taken |
| 19:53.14 | internetishard | backupmenu shouldn't be necessary, just something rsyncy |
| 19:53.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
| 19:53.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | look |
| 19:53.56 | internetishard | DocScrutinizer: yeah, I got that - I was thinking it could be imaged, automatically at boot and that image would be used |
| 19:53.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 19:53.59 | infobot | it has been said that jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 19:54.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | at very bottom |
| 19:54.37 | internetishard | android and iOS have solutions whereby you can throw out your phone after a backup was made an easily get started with a new one |
| 19:54.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and still no "cloud" of any kind involved |
| 19:54.58 | internetishard | when? |
| 19:55.10 | internetishard | Will this be easier on me if I don't use that word :P |
| 19:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I don't feel like discussing this insane and yet fuzzy maketing speak concept of "cloud" anymore |
| 19:55.46 | internetishard | I mean, I could just call it 'webservice' |
| 19:56.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | a webservice is something significantly different from what's originally been called cloud computing |
| 19:57.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | cloud computing is distributed computing resources located at a dynamic flock of small heterogenous devices |
| 19:57.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | spreead all over the internet |
| 19:57.19 | internetishard | like AWS |
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| 19:57.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | originally invented by Amazon iirc |
| 19:58.08 | vi__ | or plan 9 from bell labs. |
| 19:58.11 | internetishard | The cloud was invented by amazon??? The cloud concept doesn't matter in this case. I'm just curious |
| 19:58.16 | vi__ | which is genius. |
| 19:58.33 | internetishard | Anyway, I'm just talking about an automated backup like iOS and Android |
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| 19:58.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's for sure no cloud, in classic terms |
| 19:59.07 | internetishard | Would be slick. So you could break your phone, plug in a new or flash n900, and it would pull down your last (or specified) backup |
| 19:59.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | it a typical centralized webservice |
| 19:59.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | as opposed to same thing hosted on your local PC (a somewhat better concept in my book) |
| 20:00.35 | vi__ | cloud==thin client computing |
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| 20:00.56 | internetishard | cloud is context dependent in my experience |
| 20:01.02 | vi__ | cloun!=backing up your loltweets to the internet. |
| 20:01.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, I do this quite easily: flash new N900 with BM image, sync my MyDocs backup to device, run BM restore --- done, profit! |
| 20:01.10 | internetishard | haha |
| 20:01.18 | internetishard | I knew I shouldn't have used that work |
| 20:01.20 | internetishard | word |
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| 20:02.58 | kerio | internetishard: no, seriously |
| 20:03.11 | kerio | restoring a BM backup will give you a functionally equivalent n900 |
| 20:03.16 | kerio | modulo BT pairings |
| 20:03.22 | kerio | ...and that's basically it, really |
| 20:04.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki cloud computing |
| 20:04.21 | internetishard | The reason the other popular phones don't use that model is because you have to manage that backup yourself. You could lose or break the phone and it would be lost. |
| 20:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | and LOL for the diagram upper right |
| 20:04.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | also see "history" |
| 20:05.10 | internetishard | The thing is... I've setup "clouds" (using AWS and rackspace) for people - and everyone where I work seems to use the term this way... I don't feel so in the wrong. |
| 20:05.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the many different "meanings" associated today which render the term "cloud" basically meaningless |
| 20:06.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | so s/cloud/net/g please |
| 20:06.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | for [inter|intra|GPRS|younameit]net |
| 20:07.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and since my rsync solution on bottom of ~jrtools for sure is no cloud based service, it is still a net service |
| 20:07.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | in my intranet |
| 20:08.33 | internetishard | iOS backup is called iCloud :> |
| 20:08.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | my ass is called iAss |
| 20:08.52 | Sicelo | lol |
| 20:08.57 | ampharos | my n800 is iNeglected |
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| 20:09.11 | ampharos | poor n800, community has left it for dead |
| 20:09.23 | internetishard | what about n900? |
| 20:09.26 | internetishard | nokia left for dead |
| 20:09.38 | internetishard | and all the shit it needs changed isn't open source |
| 20:10.07 | internetishard | Contacts and Messages |
| 20:10.24 | Sicelo | internetishard: if i owned an iphone, i would for sure disabled that cloud backup thingy asap |
| 20:10.28 | ampharos | but the n900 is stilled loved by the community |
| 20:10.55 | internetishard | Sicelo: why? |
| 20:10.56 | ampharos | my n800 and the 810 for that matter got shafted as sson as the n900 came out, then the community had a dead |
| 20:11.05 | internetishard | I'd do so if it were insecurre |
| 20:11.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | internetishard: why? isn't that obvious? |
| 20:11.52 | peetah | freemangordon: i finally found the time to test thumb2 firefox 17.0a1: while it is still a huge ram consumer, it definitely feels smoother than my previous non thumb2 firefox 14; thanks again for all your work ! |
| 20:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | who wants to store his very own private data on some alien server |
| 20:12.45 | internetishard | ok... I might have finally fixed el-v1.db's corruption. It's 18megs though so it still slows down everything... |
| 20:12.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, except of course we're talking those individuals who use google for their phonebook app anyway |
| 20:13.09 | freemangordon | peetah: yeah, unfortunately XUL is memory hungry, lets see how it will develop it IPCLite |
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| 20:24.54 | internetishard | I don't understand why the email program takes any time to show your current emails when the network is down and it wants to display new messages and the old emails at the same time... |
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| 21:04.31 | ShadowJK | still uses his N800 almost daily |
| 21:05.29 | ampharos | fistbumps ShadowJK |
| 21:05.34 | ampharos | i need to get a new battery |
| 21:05.45 | ampharos | mine is shot; drains fast and uses 40% of it starting up |
| 21:06.50 | ShadowJK | the original batteries were never very good |
| 21:07.17 | ampharos | i got mine in about 2010, used |
| 21:07.36 | ampharos | cheaper than an N810 or N900 (those go for a lot!) |
| 21:07.38 | ShadowJK | on the third battery for my N810 now |
| 21:07.46 | ShadowJK | I've gotten new ones when they've gone down to about 60% of original capacity |
| 21:08.12 | ampharos | but I'd love to use it more, but batteries :( |
| 21:08.54 | ShadowJK | but it's hard to find a BP-5L that looks vguely trustworthy |
| 21:09.20 | ampharos | i only order from canada |
| 21:09.29 | ampharos | shipping is like $40 from US |
| 21:09.35 | ampharos | and no matter where customs |
| 21:10.30 | ampharos | I don't trust HK batteries |
| 21:10.54 | ampharos | I want a charge, not a chemical grenade waiting to go off |
| 21:11.04 | ShadowJK | customs is 0 here if total customs fees would be less than 10E |
| 21:11.22 | ShadowJK | customs fee would mostly be VAT of 23%, so if battery costs less than 10/.23, no customs charges |
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| 21:20.13 | trumee | freemangordon, ping |
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| 21:20.58 | freemangordon | trumee: pong |
| 21:21.24 | trumee | freemangordon, E: Version '21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb0' for 'mp-fremantle-community-pr' was not found |
| 21:21.37 | trumee | freemangordon, i tried to run cssu shell script |
| 21:21.57 | freemangordon | trumee: edit that to be 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb3 |
| 21:22.06 | freemangordon | in the script that is |
| 21:22.21 | freemangordon | you've waited too long to update :D |
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| 21:25.16 | trumee | freemangordon, thanks it is installing now. |
| 21:25.43 | freemangordon | np. and night |
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| 21:28.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 21:29.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | trumee waiting too long to update, incredible, impossible ;-D |
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| 22:55.54 | Skry | DocScrutinizer05: you wrote that battery charging script? if so do you remember anything about those status values? |
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| 23:12.20 | SpeedEvil | what about them? |
| 23:12.35 | SpeedEvil | I remember an overview |
| 23:14.25 | ShadowJK | there's an overview in the script |
| 23:15.19 | ShadowJK | atleast charge2 and charge3, iirc |
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| 23:20.29 | Skry | just need to know the meaning of 0x40 |
| 23:20.43 | SpeedEvil | look up the data sheet |
| 23:21.05 | ShadowJK | in a function called decode_status() no less :) |
| 23:21.22 | SpeedEvil | or that |
| 23:24.41 | ShadowJK | I've never seen 0x40 |
| 23:25.50 | ShadowJK | checks datasheet for what sspin is |
| 23:25.54 | Skry | yeah, me neither before today |
| 23:27.00 | Skry | and I dont have charge 2 or 3 |
| 23:28.21 | ShadowJK | "enable stat pin function" |
| 23:29.13 | ShadowJK | the default is 1, but it's turned off by bme and charge*.sh |
| 23:29.14 | ShadowJK | the chip probably got reset to defaults at some point |
| 23:31.55 | Skry | hmm, you know what that stat pin function is? I mean, is it safe to charge even if the status is 0x40 |
| 23:33.14 | Skry | I started getting that when I fixed loading order of musb modules |
| 23:33.33 | internetishard | man... after fixing the messages database (el-v1.db) my n900 is about 4x as responsive |
| 23:33.51 | internetishard | just like new |
| 23:34.24 | SpeedEvil | :-) |
| 23:35.39 | beford | link internetishard? |
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| 23:41.14 | internetishard | link to what? |
| 23:42.31 | beford | to check how to fixe the messages database :P |
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| 23:43.31 | internetishard | mine was corrupt |
| 23:44.17 | internetishard | what I did was move el-v1.db to my computer, run an sqlite3 check (pragma integrity_check;) |
| 23:44.53 | internetishard | if that says it isn't okay, then you can probably benefit from dumping it to a new sql database, and then creating a new db |
| 23:45.00 | internetishard | that's all I did really |
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| 23:47.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: iirc status pin is the one causing amber steady LED |
| 23:47.40 | Skry | ok, weird |
| 23:48.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | so basically it's mirroring the status of OTG input, which in turn is driven by 1707 PHY fastcharger detect - IIRC |
| 23:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | bme is disabling it since bme and relatives are managing indicator LED patterns via system (MCE) |
| 23:49.52 | Hurrian | Isn't there a sysfs entry to upload patterns into? |
| 23:50.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 23:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's related to LP5523 LED controller chip, not bq24150 battery charger chip |
| 23:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | both share the (amber, aka red and green) indicator LED |
| 23:53.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | during emergency charging you see steady amber from bq24150, via status pin, but as soon as bme starts up (actually as soon as mce starts up) this will change, and LP5523 controls the complete LED while bq24150 is supposed to "shut up" and leave LED alone |
| 23:53.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flatbatrecover |
| 23:53.21 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover |
| 23:53.44 | *** part/#maemo internetishard (~root@c-98-210-156-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.29 | *** join/#maemo DHR (~hugh@CPE00606767ed59-CM000f9fa81660.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:57.25 | Skry | DocScrutinizer05: so is it safe to charge even when the status is 0x40 instead of 0x90 ? |