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| 00:33.37 | RST38h | yawns |
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| 01:38.48 | nox- | http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/01/texas-instruments-shutters-consumer-omap-lines/ |
| 01:44.58 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 01:45.04 | SpeedEvil | few days old now |
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| 01:45.09 | SpeedEvil | :-( |
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| 02:03.12 | narcos | yawns |
| 02:04.06 | ShadowJK | What's this "performance no longer matters" thing in that article about? |
| 02:05.07 | narcos | Zzz. Night * |
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| 02:10.29 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: to a degree, the race to the bottom, and the fact that tablets are possibly fast enough |
| 02:12.34 | ShadowJK | my android tablet received jelly bean update today. Now I'm wishing for double the ram and cpu :/ |
| 02:12.53 | ShadowJK | (It has quadcore 1.66Ghz Tegra and 1G ram) |
| 02:13.44 | SpeedEvil | indeed |
| 02:14.06 | SpeedEvil | I'm not sure I agree |
| 02:14.33 | SpeedEvil | I can certainly see why you'd hesitate in investing in a cut-throat area. |
| 02:16.48 | ShadowJK | Sure, but I don't buy the "fast eough" argument :) |
| 02:17.15 | SpeedEvil | I have pondered upgrading my nexus 7 to 2g |
| 02:17.23 | robbiethe1st | See, this is where the waste of Android comes forth; when a 1ghz single-core processor and 256mb of ram can perform fast enough when loaded with a gpu-accellerated, true Linux OS, yet with 4x that in ram and processing power and Android... |
| 02:17.28 | SpeedEvil | still need to confirm stiff |
| 02:17.35 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 02:18.02 | SpeedEvil | I really want proper Linux on it, |
| 02:18.12 | SpeedEvil | and not in a chroot |
| 02:18.17 | robbiethe1st | No way to load Ubuntu natively? |
| 02:18.27 | robbiethe1st | Using the stock modules and a compatible kernel? |
| 02:18.41 | robbiethe1st | I mean, for the Allwinner A10-based tablets, that's how you do it. |
| 02:20.12 | SpeedEvil | sure. |
| 02:20.19 | SpeedEvil | no graphics though |
| 02:20.23 | SpeedEvil | aiui |
| 02:20.37 | SpeedEvil | I need to investigate properly. |
| 02:21.17 | SpeedEvil | but got boring stuff to do. writing 25 page documents with detailed case law arguing your disabilities is not fun. |
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| 08:25.34 | rantom | Hello |
| 08:26.15 | Cor-Ai | no |
| 08:26.44 | rantom | I was browsing the packages section in maemo.org and came across this |
| 08:26.45 | rantom | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/cssutransitionstuner/0.2.0/ |
| 08:27.17 | rantom | The karma is already over the required one so I have to ask why isn't that package uploaded to the extras? |
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| 08:59.32 | Hurrian | package maintainer still has to manually do so |
| 08:59.41 | Hurrian | IIRC auto-promote is not yet implemented |
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| 09:06.07 | rantom | Hmm, ok |
| 09:07.40 | rantom | According to his profile in tmo though: http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=27954 he's been off since 21.11.2011 |
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| 09:29.31 | Hurrian | bug X-Fade to promote it |
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| 09:38.05 | rantom | Done |
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| 09:38.54 | rantom | But thanks for the info. I thought promoting (to extras) was automatic |
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| 11:29.32 | grammoboy | is there a way to watch bbc with the n900? |
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| 11:51.15 | grammoboy | hm mplayer can't play the webm file form the new blender movie |
| 11:51.26 | grammoboy | mplayer on desktop does |
| 11:52.48 | grammoboy | too old ffmpeg probably |
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| 13:38.23 | grammoboy | is it possible to make a custom desktop shortcut? |
| 13:38.32 | grammoboy | also for root? |
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| 13:42.58 | andre__ | grammoboy, http://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_file_format |
| 13:43.36 | grammoboy | andre__, ah ok thx |
| 13:43.51 | grammoboy | andre__, is it possible to run a command as root via such a desktop file? |
| 13:43.58 | andre__ | why would you need that? |
| 13:44.15 | grammoboy | for umount my sshfs / fuse filesystem |
| 13:45.18 | grammoboy | I play music from my server |
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| 13:52.48 | Skry | grammoboy: not exactly a proper solution but have you thought about installing minidlna to your server which would eliminate all sshfs and fuse configuration on client. |
| 13:53.44 | grammoboy | Skry, I bought a qnap ts 209 and like to install debian on it |
| 13:54.05 | grammoboy | Skry, I'm thinking about the best way to play multimedia from the server with my n900 |
| 13:54.33 | grammoboy | Skry, till now it is sshfs fuse, but I read also about NFS, dunno what the best solution is |
| 13:55.37 | Skry | grammoboy: well, minidlna is working for me (runs on my desktop and streams music to n900 on wifeys pc) and is lightweight |
| 13:55.50 | Skry | and wifeys pc |
| 13:56.59 | Skry | and you'll get videos too via that :) |
| 13:58.22 | Skry | i prefer that way over nfs/samba because it needs no client side configuration or user intervention |
| 14:00.37 | grammoboy | I've to do more research on that, thx for info |
| 14:01.38 | Skry | you're welcome. |
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| 14:59.35 | vi_ | spoofy: yo! |
| 14:59.57 | vi_ | why did you take down your nmap 6 deb? |
| 15:01.47 | GGon | been using my n900 quite a bit tethered lately |
| 15:01.54 | GGon | mostly because of the keyboard |
| 15:02.36 | kerio | which keyboard? |
| 15:02.38 | kerio | bt or usb? |
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| 15:26.57 | kerio | freemangordon: plugins-base-extra is not in any repo, wtf |
| 15:27.30 | spoofy | vi_: couse I need to recompile it again |
| 15:27.35 | spoofy | with working zenmap |
| 15:27.39 | spoofy | and optify it |
| 15:28.12 | spoofy | Now I'm working on ruby1.9.3 and postgres9.2 |
| 15:29.18 | spoofy | I'm also making my image of maemo with many scripts. Something like pwniephone |
| 15:29.22 | spoofy | but better ;) |
| 15:29.43 | spoofy | Hope that lastest metasploit will work with ruby1.9.3 and postgres |
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| 15:41.09 | vi_ | spoofy: any chance you could make the deb available for people who do not care for zenmap? |
| 15:41.12 | vi_ | people like me? |
| 15:41.20 | vi_ | I will email you a donut. |
| 15:42.08 | entitled | I wanna pizza roll |
| 15:42.19 | vi_ | how would that work? |
| 15:42.25 | vi_ | It would flop onto its side. |
| 15:43.22 | vi_ | cheese side down as well. |
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| 15:45.34 | vi_ | spoofy: I tried the old address on your server but it was not working. |
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| 15:51.33 | kerio | hi dudes |
| 15:52.02 | kerio | is there a good way to autologin to known hot spots that require a login from a browser? |
| 15:52.21 | vi_ | kerio: curl |
| 15:52.31 | kerio | no fucking shit |
| 15:52.34 | kerio | *auto*login |
| 15:52.39 | kerio | as in, something with ICD2 |
| 15:54.14 | vi_ | ICD2 deals with network adapters etc, not stupid html login pages. |
| 15:54.46 | vi_ | put a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/50_mynetworks |
| 15:55.10 | kerio | vi_: can i do that only when on a particular SSID? |
| 15:55.17 | vi_ | sure |
| 15:55.34 | vi_ | I have a script in there that adjust wifi power depending on what network I am on |
| 15:55.39 | kerio | neat |
| 15:55.42 | kerio | pastebin plskthx |
| 15:55.46 | vi_ | You could make it do anything. |
| 15:55.52 | vi_ | curl for example. |
| 15:56.37 | vi_ | google curl wifi login. |
| 15:58.08 | spoofy | vi_: try spoofy@os.pl ;) |
| 15:58.09 | kerio | yeah, yeah |
| 15:58.12 | kerio | i need the glue |
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| 15:58.27 | spoofy | vi_: sure - I'll make a .deb without zenmap for you ;) |
| 15:59.36 | spoofy | But first I must reinstall my desktop and sdk so please be patient |
| 16:01.28 | kerio | vi_: srsly, pastebin dat |
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| 17:09.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | pastebin? :-O this belongs to wiki! |
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| 17:24.03 | sixwheeledbeast | mo |
| 17:27.35 | kerio | vi_: you bitch, pastebin your script |
| 17:27.42 | kerio | it belongs in a museum! |
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| 17:46.28 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: use your council powers to make him pastebin it! :c |
| 17:58.47 | gregoa | kerio: here's something I've been using for a login page: http://paste.debian.net/195406/ |
| 17:59.05 | gregoa | kerio: note that this was on debian and called from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:59.18 | kerio | goddammit i don't need the login mechanism i need the ifup.d glue |
| 17:59.59 | gregoa | kerio: well, that's left as an exercise for the reader :) [I'd have to look it up myself] |
| 18:02.15 | gregoa | kerio: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_scripting_with_the_ifupdown_system might help to find the variables passed to the scripts |
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| 18:07.21 | grammoboy | does setting off 'power save' improve the internet connnection? |
| 18:08.00 | grammoboy | what is good practice to get reliable internet connection for streaming video at home for instance? |
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| 18:10.27 | Lava_Croft | grammoboy: wifi? |
| 18:10.37 | grammoboy | Lava_Croft, yep |
| 18:10.41 | Lava_Croft | i use stock settings |
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| 18:10.52 | sixwheeledbeast | kills your battery with power save off. do you have unreliable connection? |
| 18:11.02 | Lava_Croft | yup, it does |
| 18:11.06 | grammoboy | I've turned powersaving up and it seems to improve the streaming |
| 18:11.12 | Lava_Croft | i never found a reason to turn off powersaving |
| 18:11.17 | grammoboy | *down |
| 18:11.40 | Lava_Croft | well, thats logical |
| 18:11.47 | Lava_Croft | power saving degrades performance |
| 18:12.01 | grammoboy | looking at a film from nas server |
| 18:12.47 | sixwheeledbeast | can be the router if switching power saving off helps |
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| 18:13.45 | grammoboy | what could that be? |
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| 18:15.40 | sixwheeledbeast | i have trouble with ssh if power saving is on full on my home router but on another network no probs. |
| 18:15.58 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_Power_Saving_Mode_%28PSM%29 |
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| 18:16.28 | grammoboy | hm |
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| 18:17.47 | kerio | is powersaving disabled when on charger? |
| 18:19.48 | grammoboy | it could also be 10 vs 100W |
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| 18:23.14 | grammoboy | hm it still runs smoothly with powersaving on, and 100 |
| 18:23.43 | grammoboy | ah now the film stops |
| 18:24.24 | sixwheeledbeast | try Intermediate |
| 18:26.39 | grammoboy | I do |
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| 18:30.11 | grammoboy | it might also depend on what you use for the multimedia on the server |
| 18:30.18 | grammoboy | sshfs / fuse |
| 18:35.04 | grammoboy | so far so good |
| 18:35.13 | grammoboy | intermediate |
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| 19:14.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | AP sends wakeup calls when there's data to transmit down to the client wlan device |
| 19:15.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | on AP side you can sometimes configure whether you want data-pending-msg get sent with each beacon, with every 2nd, every 10th or whatever |
| 19:21.30 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how is it called in ddwrt? |
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| 19:28.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | so: 1st set your AP to send at least 10 beacons / second. 2nd set DTIM=1 |
| 19:28.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: ^^^ |
| 19:28.50 | kerio | i see |
| 19:29.02 | kerio | my DTIM is at 1 |
| 19:30.07 | ShadowJK | Would be interesting to plot poweruse vs beacon interval |
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| 19:32.58 | SpeedEvil | mm mm. |
| 19:33.05 | SpeedEvil | bacon interval. |
| 19:33.29 | kerio | SpeedEvil: 10 bacons/second |
| 19:33.30 | SpeedEvil | power use at normal intervals is pretty small though |
| 19:33.32 | kerio | *at least* |
| 19:38.22 | grammoboy | could someone hack maetronome and make bpm < 40 possible? 30 is a better starting point |
| 19:40.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, most critical problem here to test it: reduce real data transfer to 0, so it won't mess up results |
| 19:41.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | grammoboy: what sucker hardcoded such lower limit into a metronome? |
| 19:41.28 | grammoboy | dunno |
| 19:41.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | hell, when I use a cumputerized metronome, then there's only one lower limit I'd maybe accept: 0.1 |
| 19:42.03 | grammoboy | 40 is a common value with 'real' metronomes |
| 19:42.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter |
| 19:42.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5 difits is normal limit of an abacus |
| 19:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | digits |
| 19:44.14 | grammoboy | agreed |
| 19:44.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like my age old plan to come up with absolutely original slide rule simmulation |
| 19:44.34 | grammoboy | hm you can fiddle with the signature |
| 19:44.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, is it qt? |
| 19:45.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it is, then odds are the limit is in qt widget and changeable without a single line of patched code |
| 19:45.56 | grammoboy | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42420 |
| 19:46.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | just start qt-designer on the qt GUI of your metronome, check the dial for bpm, and check the lower limit in there. Change it from 40 to 1 and recompile |
| 19:53.39 | grammoboy | maybe later |
| 19:59.15 | sixwheeledbeast | Can anyone help me setup Maemo5 targets in the latest QTSDK? |
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| 20:05.39 | sixwheeledbeast | found them |
| 20:07.23 | kerio | you're welcome! |
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| 20:07.42 | sixwheeledbeast | ta |
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| 20:39.00 | vi__ | is there a simple method of determining how many minutes of telephone you have used in the month? |
| 20:39.24 | kerio | sure |
| 20:39.28 | kerio | don't talk |
| 20:39.40 | kerio | you'll then have used 0 minutes |
| 20:40.45 | vi__ | oh your hillarious. |
| 20:40.50 | vi__ | no wait. |
| 20:40.54 | vi__ | the other one. |
| 20:40.57 | vi__ | droll |
| 20:41.02 | vi__ | droll as fuck. |
| 20:42.35 | ShadowJK | also how many minutes at each tariff |
| 20:43.33 | vi__ | ShadowJK: I mean like the gprs data counter. |
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| 22:18.46 | ShadowJK | the gprs data counter also doesn't let you calculate cost when there's minimum charge per use :/ |
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| 22:21.59 | ShadowJK | wait, the gprs counters arent per month either? |
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| 22:22.55 | ShadowJK | manual reset like the call timers |
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| 22:41.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or per autodetected notification SMS from your carrier |
| 22:42.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | (another point on my nice-to-have maybe-todo list) |
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| 23:11.20 | teotwaki_ | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
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