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| 00:11.07 | gregoa | narcos: if it can be perl: echo "hello there my friend" | perl -pe 's/(hello )(.+)( friend)/${1} . unpack("H*", $2) . ${3}/e' |
| 00:13.04 | narcos | gregoa: Ahhh great! I was on the Perl path, but hadn't quite gotten it yet |
| 00:13.18 | narcos | Thanks |
| 00:13.27 | gregoa | np :) |
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| 00:17.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "hello there my friend" | sed "s/\(hello\)\(.*\)\(friend\)/echo -n \1; echo \2|xxd -p|sed 's%\(.*\)\$%\1%'; echo \3/"|sh |
| 00:17.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I'm still not happy with the second sed (it simply doesn't cut the \n ) |
| 00:21.18 | narcos | DocScrutinizer05: Ah, nice chaining |
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| 00:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: http://pastebin.ca/2233327 |
| 00:36.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: ^^^ made it more complicated than needed, assuming "hello" and " friend" are no constant strings that could simply get hardcoded |
| 00:39.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, forget the first 10 lines, it's only line 11-20 which are relevant |
| 00:42.28 | narcos | DocScrutinizer05: Ahhh, brilliant, thank you! |
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| 00:42.35 | narcos | Or, 5468616e6b20796f75206d7920667269656e64210a |
| 00:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course you could write >> result=$(echo -n $result; echo $a|sed 's/.*\( f.*\)/\1/') << as well like >> result=$result$(echo $a|sed 's/.*\( f.*\)/\1/') |
| 00:43.33 | narcos | ok gotcha |
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| 01:19.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: here's yet another one: echo -n "hello there my friend" | sed "s/\(hello\)\(.*\)\(friend\)/echo -n \1; echo -n \2|xxd -ps|tr -d '\n'; echo -n \3/"|sh |
| 01:24.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | gets senile, couldn't recall name of command tr, needed info pages to look it up |
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| 01:25.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | konqueror is awesome: "info:/coreutils/Operating on characters" |
| 01:26.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | or short: ##coreutils |
| 01:26.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | even shorter: ##, if you're completely lost |
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| 01:26.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | # is also nice |
| 01:27.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | (the "see also:" section are real links in konqueror |
| 01:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ) |
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| 11:57.35 | Pali | ~seen jonwil |
| 11:57.36 | infobot | jonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 27d 1h 29m 5s ago, saying: 'yay, my N900 is finally fixed :)'. |
| 11:59.24 | SpeedEvil | :'( |
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| 12:21.38 | Pali | where is jonwil? |
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| 12:35.05 | vi_ | yo |
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| 12:45.01 | dee | Dd |
| 12:45.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | deedd |
| 12:46.48 | dee | Ddd |
| 12:52.40 | vi_ | I am typing this from an old ipaq spp BT keyboard! |
| 12:52.57 | vi_ | It is more exciting than it should be. |
| 12:54.42 | vi_ | sswhoaah |
| 12:55.07 | vi_ | even the blu function key in the kbd works the same as the n900 kbd! |
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| 13:08.43 | dhbiker | hi |
| 13:09.00 | dhbiker | what is the package name of Community SSU Enabler ? |
| 13:09.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | irrelevant |
| 13:09.38 | dhbiker | err |
| 13:09.43 | dhbiker | i'm still having that issue |
| 13:10.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | visit http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU and install it from there, there are one-click-install buttons |
| 13:10.42 | dhbiker | no valid internet connections when i install CSSU testing |
| 13:10.51 | dhbiker | so i cant really connect to internet |
| 13:11.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you're out of luck. Offline installation not supported |
| 13:11.31 | dhbiker | YAY! lucky me |
| 13:11.49 | kerio | what do you mean no valid internet connections? |
| 13:11.59 | kerio | ICD2 stops working? D: |
| 13:12.16 | dhbiker | means i cant select anything |
| 13:12.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | IF that's the case, no CSSU will fix that |
| 13:12.27 | dhbiker | as an internet connection |
| 13:12.35 | vi_ | is there an automatic bluetooth keyboard package? |
| 13:13.03 | dhbiker | DocScrutinizer05: it works fine before this latest update |
| 13:13.05 | vi_ | right now I have to rfcomm connect then manually run kbdd. |
| 13:13.07 | ShadowJK | indeed, trying to install cssu (or anything at all) onto a broken system is unadvisable :) |
| 13:13.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | then roll back to state before that update |
| 13:13.21 | dhbiker | its not broken... |
| 13:13.25 | kerio | vi_: http://maemo.org/packages/view/extkbd/ maybe |
| 13:14.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | though there's not a single additional report like yours, afaik |
| 13:14.56 | dhbiker | not sure yet why it happens but it happens after this latest CSSU-T update |
| 13:15.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | so odds are it's not related to the update (whatever that was), but rather to something unique to yur hw/sw config |
| 13:15.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus CSSU-T didn't even touch anything ICD related afaik |
| 13:16.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | for good reason, I have to add |
| 13:16.38 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, so, you're throwing your hat in the ring? |
| 13:16.49 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: osso-wlan 3.0.20.1+0cssu2 |
| 13:17.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | but there *might* be other changes in cssu-t that cause breakage in some weird nasty connection manager package you might have installed |
| 13:17.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: they tricked me, yeah :-/ |
| 13:17.36 | dhbiker | i have nothing special installed |
| 13:17.39 | kerio | dhbiker: do you use autodisconnect or wifiswitcher |
| 13:17.41 | kerio | or something like that |
| 13:17.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: rrright, but afaik that's old |
| 13:18.07 | dhbiker | kerio: only widget for disabling the wifi yes |
| 13:18.25 | kerio | dhbiker: i think it's the issue here |
| 13:18.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | might conflict with packet injection stuff though. Not sure if that aspect got tested |
| 13:19.01 | dhbiker | hm |
| 13:19.06 | dhbiker | i'll test that later |
| 13:19.13 | dhbiker | i have to go now |
| 13:19.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | (though it's meant to faciliate pkt inj, so it would be rather funny if it breaks stuff instead when the hacker apps rush in) |
| 13:20.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: I'll nominate you :-D |
| 13:20.30 | kerio | GeneralAntilles: DocScrutinizer05 is our eternal leader! heil joerg! o/ |
| 13:20.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: you're not makeing friends like that |
| 13:21.14 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, nominate all you want, I'm not accepting. :P |
| 13:21.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | but well, maybe it disgusts a few voters so much that they think twice before they vote for me, so please go on |
| 13:22.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: but.. but... |
| 13:23.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | you CANT reject |
| 13:25.03 | GeneralAntilles | lol |
| 13:25.19 | GeneralAntilles | I think historical precedence is with me. |
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| 13:42.32 | Pali | ping freemangordon |
| 13:42.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, then I hope you'll be available for a position as my personal councilor, when it hits me |
| 13:42.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 13:43.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly your experience would've been needed right now |
| 13:43.46 | Pali | freemangordon, now I'm testing hald-addon-bme. I fixed one bug (bad detection of empty state), but there is problem with maemo statusbar applet... |
| 13:44.20 | Pali | statusbar applet does not show any messages (like battery to low or charger disconnected) |
| 13:44.35 | Pali | but I see all dbus messages in dbus-monitor |
| 13:45.22 | Pali | need to RE status-area-applet-battery.so and understand why... |
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| 13:45.32 | kerio | Pali: or rewrite it |
| 13:45.57 | Pali | we should understand how to send information about battery empty status |
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| 13:46.34 | Pali | now hald-addon-bme sending dbus signal about low/empty state |
| 13:46.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: wrong dbus maybe? or wrong address? |
| 13:46.42 | Pali | same address |
| 13:46.43 | ShadowJK | Do you have any writeup of the dbus messages? |
| 13:46.47 | Pali | as binary bme |
| 13:46.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: run-standalone.sh thing related? |
| 13:46.58 | Pali | I think no |
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| 13:47.14 | Pali | dbus-monitor show same dbus messages for our implementation and bme |
| 13:47.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 13:48.07 | Pali | battery is empty is handled by DSME, so I'm sending to dsme info --> and this is working dsme turn device off |
| 13:48.23 | Pali | but that stupid statusbar does not show any message... |
| 13:48.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | FFS |
| 13:48.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, is it actually the statusbar thingie that shows those? |
| 13:49.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | or does it simply send another msg to hildon-notifierd or whatever? |
| 13:50.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I guess those are signals (null destination addr), not msgs from A to B |
| 13:50.15 | Pali | I looked at bme and hald-addon-bme and they sending only dbus messages which sending our implementation... |
| 13:50.31 | ShadowJK | is there other path of communication too? |
| 13:50.57 | ShadowJK | iirc for Mer during N8x0 times the mer battery statusbar didnt use dbus |
| 13:51.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | signals can get acted upon by arbitrary monitors on dbus |
| 13:51.39 | Pali | ShadowJK, can you give me link for that statusbar? |
| 13:51.56 | ShadowJK | oh wait, it was hald-addon-bme that did non-dbus communication with bme |
| 13:52.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: how's about running for council? |
| 13:52.14 | ShadowJK | no |
| 13:52.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty clear |
| 13:52.47 | ShadowJK | http://gitorious.org/mer-toggles/hald-addon-bme |
| 13:53.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't think I enjoy the results of temporary mental blackout yesterday |
| 13:53.58 | Pali | ShadowJK, I know about that hal addon |
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| 13:54.08 | Pali | our implementation is based on that |
| 13:54.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's just too embarrassing to step down now |
| 13:55.13 | Pali | status-area-applet-battery.so is 24K... somebody with ida can disassemble it? |
| 13:55.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe another twoo weeks will readjust the weights on embarrassment and anticipated/already-felt pain |
| 13:56.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio help a lot in that regard ;-) |
| 13:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | waits for kerio calling him adolf instead of doc |
| 13:57.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | "our eternal leader" PFFFFF |
| 13:57.55 | kerio | JesusScrutinizer05 |
| 14:01.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know that one vanished after 4 weeks |
| 14:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 14:02.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | or was it 40 days? |
| 14:02.27 | kerio | after 33 years |
| 14:03.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, then I'm already decades on retirement |
| 14:04.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | sitting here with my MTHELS at left hand, and my IT parc on my right hand... errr that's not exactly precise |
| 14:06.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks for the HUGE wate tap to open |
| 14:08.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | hums Fripp&Gabriel "when the flood comes" and heads out for RL |
| 14:09.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually "here comes the flood" |
| 14:10.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye8iDnKJDss |
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| 15:05.32 | Guest57704 | Has anybody azimuth working? http://blog.desmottes.be/post/2010/04/25/Introducing-Azimuth-for-Maemo It worked for me in the past, but stopped some time back. Not sure if that was CSSU related... |
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| 15:18.55 | Lava_Croft | randomly mumbles about how dbus-scripts is lovely |
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| 15:20.10 | Cor-Ai | :) |
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| 15:50.48 | dhbiker | kerio: uninstalling wifi widget didnt help |
| 15:50.56 | dhbiker | or do i have to do it before updating ? |
| 15:51.03 | kerio | i think you have to do it before updating |
| 15:51.06 | kerio | but idk |
| 15:51.14 | dhbiker | oh ok |
| 15:51.25 | dhbiker | i'll try that too |
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| 15:53.57 | kerio | aww, i want to buy a game gripper |
| 15:54.00 | kerio | but it doesn't work with a case |
| 15:54.43 | dhbiker | lol |
| 15:54.51 | kerio | and i do love my otterbox |
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| 16:15.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | dhbiker: kerio: former reports suggest that all those connection managers mess up system files and don't uninstall cleanly |
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| 16:16.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | so only reliable recovery path so far been a reflash |
| 16:16.43 | kerio | hm, i thought wifiswitcher uninstalled fine, if you uninstall it when the wifi is on |
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| 16:17.03 | dhbiker | seriously ? |
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| 16:27.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | I don'r have detailed records about all the reports of breakage here during last 2 years |
| 16:28.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | general assumption: this class of apps is usually implemented in an unclean way, since for such apps the unclean way is the only feasible way |
| 16:29.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | (reports) there were quite a few anyway |
| 16:30.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | and every single one I recall ended with "I reflashed, now finally it works again. Many thanks" |
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| 16:42.53 | kerio | ~shadowjk |
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| 16:49.16 | vi__ | hello |
| 16:49.33 | vi__ | who here is familliar with bluetooth keyboards? |
| 16:49.51 | vi__ | I can connect to it with rfcomm. |
| 16:50.01 | vi__ | Then make it work with kbdd. |
| 16:50.21 | vi__ | I can type stuff etc. |
| 16:50.34 | kerio | vi__: have you tried extkbd? |
| 16:50.44 | vi__ | Is there a more 'seamless' way of making it work? |
| 16:50.52 | vi__ | yes I have extkb. |
| 16:51.02 | kerio | it doesn't help? :( |
| 16:51.15 | vi__ | but I do not understand what it does exactly. |
| 16:51.48 | Sicelo | i think freemangordon may help there |
| 16:51.54 | vi__ | rfcomm lets me make a profile for the keyboard right? |
| 16:52.08 | vi__ | where I enter the mac address. |
| 16:52.35 | vi__ | This makes the keyboard always appear on the correct /dev/rfcomm |
| 16:52.38 | vi__ | right? |
| 16:53.39 | CodenameStrike-N | Bluetooth keyboards? |
| 16:53.48 | kerio | bluetooth keyboards! |
| 16:54.03 | vi__ | then in /etc/bluetooth/kbdd.conf you set your KB type and rfcomm number. |
| 16:54.16 | CodenameStrike-N | I have at least, but I can't remember whether I had any packages from repos |
| 16:54.28 | CodenameStrike-N | to facilitate the addition of one |
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| 16:54.47 | vi__ | so what do I use to initiate the connection to the KB when I want it? |
| 16:54.49 | CodenameStrike-N | I tried that during my work as a retail assistant on several devices |
| 16:55.09 | CodenameStrike-N | all seem to be seamless |
| 16:55.23 | CodenameStrike-N | not sure, there was a package in the repos |
| 16:55.30 | CodenameStrike-N | I can't remember |
| 16:55.38 | kerio | vi__: tried just connecting to the keyboard? |
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| 16:57.05 | CodenameStrike-N | at most probably you'll have to set the access pin as 0000 |
| 16:57.06 | vi__ | kerio: how do I do that? |
| 16:57.29 | kerio | vi__: from the bluetooth menu, devices, <your keyboard>, settings, connect |
| 16:57.31 | kerio | or something |
| 16:57.34 | CodenameStrike-N | have you set the keyboard to go on accepting connections mode? |
| 16:58.32 | vi__ | CodenameStrike-N: the kb works. |
| 16:58.41 | vi__ | I can type with it. |
| 16:59.29 | CodenameStrike-N | I guess that's as far as "seamless" goes by definition with it |
| 16:59.34 | vi__ | except I have to use the command line to use rfcomm to connect to its mac address then use kbdd to use the kb. |
| 16:59.48 | vi__ | I thought there must be an easier way. |
| 17:00.07 | CodenameStrike-N | Hmm |
| 17:00.25 | vi__ | I was hoping there might be somone with some experiance who could say yay or nay. |
| 17:00.32 | CodenameStrike-N | Come to think back of it, I had extkb and didn't have to |
| 17:00.55 | CodenameStrike-N | probably experience varies between keyboard models |
| 17:01.19 | CodenameStrike-N | what's the keyboard's model? |
| 17:02.59 | vi__ | it is and SPP type kb, not an HID which may be part if the problem. |
| 17:03.24 | CodenameStrike-N | Might be |
| 17:03.44 | CodenameStrike-N | because extkbd depends on HID for the job |
| 17:06.08 | Sicelo | vi__: definitely discuss this with FMG when he's around.. just the past week he assisted someone else.. and i think it was an SPP issue |
| 17:08.37 | CodenameStrike-N | my thoughts too. |
| 17:09.25 | vi__ | I dont want to squander his time. |
| 17:11.44 | kerio | awww, there's no layout for the iGO stowaway bluetooth keyboard |
| 17:12.50 | CodenameStrike-N | oh yeah I don't know if this is more towards hildon-desktop in general |
| 17:13.07 | kerio | oh well, USA 106-keys works fine |
| 17:13.24 | CodenameStrike-N | At intervals, mostly when the system is about to go into load |
| 17:13.43 | CodenameStrike-N | transitions sometimes freeze, buttons stop responding |
| 17:13.56 | kerio | vi__: your keyboard might suck |
| 17:14.00 | CodenameStrike-N | but doesn't affect my ssh session if I'm connected |
| 17:14.07 | kerio | but mine works perfectly, just by installing extkbd, pairing and connecting from the bluetooth menu |
| 17:14.08 | kerio | :3 |
| 17:14.25 | CodenameStrike-N | but issuing a restart signal to hildon-desktop does not work |
| 17:14.53 | CodenameStrike-N | in most cases the phone's display will stick like that until I issue a reboot signal |
| 17:15.00 | CodenameStrike-N | either locally or by remote |
| 17:15.11 | CodenameStrike-N | is this a sign of an Xorg lockup? |
| 17:15.56 | Sicelo | not xorg, afaik |
| 17:18.38 | vi__ | kerio: but there is no connect function in the BT menu... |
| 17:18.54 | vi__ | also, i am typing this on my KB right now. |
| 17:19.33 | vi__ | also, is rfcomm.conf supposed to be run as you turn BT on? |
| 17:19.57 | kerio | it's supposed to be run when bluetoothd starts |
| 17:20.31 | kerio | vi__: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1405219/Screenshot-20120930-191921.png <- the "Disconnect" button becomes "Connect" when the kbd isn't connected |
| 17:21.15 | vi__ | when does bluetoothhd start? |
| 17:21.35 | kerio | vi__: it's either started during boot, or it's started/stopped when you start/stop bluetooth |
| 17:21.38 | kerio | i don't remember |
| 17:21.45 | vi__ | my one shows disconnect greyed out all the time. |
| 17:21.45 | kerio | anyway, it's running if the bluetooth is on |
| 17:21.54 | vi__ | mmm |
| 17:22.26 | vi__ | now I am connected it shows the disconnect button. |
| 17:22.39 | vi__ | but why no 'connect' button? |
| 17:22.53 | vi__ | also, why hide it at the bottom of 4 menus?? |
| 17:23.10 | kerio | the connect button is there when it's not connected |
| 17:23.13 | kerio | if it's something that the bluetooth UI can handle |
| 17:23.15 | kerio | like HID |
| 17:23.22 | vi__ | mmm |
| 17:23.48 | vi__ | where are the devices listed? |
| 17:23.55 | kerio | hey, why doesn't ctrl+shift+x work, with the kbd? :c |
| 17:23.59 | vi__ | is it in some kind if conf file? |
| 17:24.03 | kerio | other ctrl+shift+foo stuff works |
| 17:24.12 | kerio | vi__: idk, but bluetoothd is fairly standard |
| 17:24.16 | kerio | it's the bluez daemon |
| 17:24.23 | kerio | read up some documentation |
| 17:24.41 | vi__ | kerio ctrl+shft+x works on my kbd. |
| 17:24.58 | vi__ | ctrl+backspace too. |
| 17:25.00 | kerio | hrmpf |
| 17:25.06 | kerio | ctrl+bksp works too |
| 17:25.12 | kerio | dammit, only the most useful one doesn't work |
| 17:25.12 | vi__ | even the blue function key works! |
| 17:25.40 | kerio | my kbd's two Fn keys work perfectly |
| 17:25.43 | kerio | but i think those aren't even sent |
| 17:25.49 | kerio | the translation is done inside the kbd |
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| 17:25.54 | vi__ | I have ctrl, blue, window, alt AND alt_gr on this kbd! |
| 17:26.35 | vi__ | Even my wacky ctrl+shift+number works for F keys! |
| 17:27.48 | Strike-N900 | blue? |
| 17:28.10 | kerio | vi__: hm, extkbd loads a separate layout for the external kbd |
| 17:28.22 | kerio | vi__: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1405219/20120930_005.jpg my awesoem kbd |
| 17:28.32 | kerio | it folds in half! :D |
| 17:28.49 | kerio | freemangordon: extkbd++ |
| 17:29.13 | kerio | freemangordon: worked perfectly after a reboot, no issue, nice UI, A++++ would kbd again |
| 17:30.09 | FlameReaper | kerio: that keyboard looks nice |
| 17:30.18 | kerio | =D |
| 17:30.19 | kerio | it does! |
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| 17:30.45 | FlameReaper | say |
| 17:30.45 | _PanzerSajt | Skry, hy! :) |
| 17:30.46 | vi__ | I have an old hp ipaq foldable kbd. |
| 17:31.09 | FlameReaper | is there a #jolla or something? |
| 17:31.12 | vi__ | it even has a little stand to hold your n900 at an angle. |
| 17:31.13 | FlameReaper | as in a channel? |
| 17:31.16 | kerio | FlameReaper: #jollamobile |
| 17:31.16 | FlameReaper | :P |
| 17:31.21 | FlameReaper | Ah |
| 17:31.23 | kerio | vi__: mine too! :D |
| 17:31.32 | FlameReaper | that's way ahead than what I though |
| 17:31.32 | vi__ | try #vapourware |
| 17:31.50 | FlameReaper | ... oh you... |
| 17:31.51 | kerio | vi__: oh you |
| 17:32.01 | kerio | FlameReaper: oh you |
| 17:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | moh booh |
| 17:32.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | low ยต |
| 17:32.59 | vi__ | so where does bluetoothhd keep its config files? |
| 17:33.25 | FlameReaper | apparently as I've verified, another cross-platform graphics tool proved it can run on the N900 |
| 17:34.18 | kerio | vi__: /etc/bluetooth/ iirc |
| 17:34.25 | kerio | but the UI also tells it some stuff |
| 17:34.38 | FlameReaper | which reminds me, is icedtea6 the only way we can have java? |
| 17:34.53 | kerio | FlameReaper: well, it has to be an arm binary |
| 17:35.35 | vi__ | kerio: nope |
| 17:35.50 | FlameReaper | figures |
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| 17:36.08 | kerio | i suppose any java you can compile for ARM is fine |
| 17:36.25 | Skry | _PanzerSajt: hi |
| 17:37.20 | _PanzerSajt | Skry, How can I help you with the kernel developement? |
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| 17:39.33 | vi__ | freemangordon: ping |
| 17:40.50 | Skry | _PanzerSajt: I'm kinda busy atm, I'll query you later ok? |
| 17:41.02 | _PanzerSajt | Skry, no problem |
| 17:45.08 | FlameReaper | kerio: Alright, so we have the one app from http://al.chemy.org working on this N900 |
| 17:45.31 | FlameReaper | though the UI is more geared towards desktop use |
| 17:45.37 | kerio | neat :D |
| 17:45.41 | FlameReaper | but it's pretty manageable |
| 17:45.59 | kerio | i'm surprised a graphics editor fits in 800x480 |
| 17:46.03 | FlameReaper | but unlike mypaint |
| 17:46.20 | FlameReaper | it's limited to the screen size its platform runs in |
| 17:46.35 | kerio | of course it is |
| 17:46.38 | kerio | but it has to fit |
| 17:46.44 | FlameReaper | yeah |
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| 17:54.40 | FlameReaper | kerio: Was running and getting another sample screenshot of the app |
| 17:54.56 | FlameReaper | http://i.imgur.com/jITO2.png |
| 17:55.11 | kerio | pretty |
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| 18:08.55 | vi__ | kerio: can you look at your /var/lib/bluetooth/class file and tell me what the string is for your bt kb? |
| 18:09.33 | kerio | i don't have a class |
| 18:09.39 | kerio | i have a <mac address>/classes |
| 18:10.12 | vi__ | kerio: yeah look in there. |
| 18:10.24 | vi__ | you will see your btkb mac |
| 18:10.34 | kerio | 0x002540 |
| 18:10.49 | kerio | and the icon in the BT UI is a keyboard |
| 18:11.21 | vi__ | interesting... |
| 18:11.36 | kerio | or maybe a generic hid device? idk |
| 18:13.06 | vi__ | ... |
| 18:13.19 | vi__ | it now lists it as a keyboard |
| 18:13.23 | kerio | yay |
| 18:13.38 | vi__ | but there is still no 'connect' button. |
| 18:13.51 | vi__ | just a greyed out disconnect. |
| 18:16.57 | kerio | sucks to be you i guess |
| 18:17.00 | kerio | reboot, maybe? |
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| 18:17.31 | vi__ | kerio: do you have 'connect' against any other bluetooh connections? |
| 18:17.39 | kerio | my headphones |
| 18:18.01 | vi__ | what about other mobile phones? |
| 18:18.08 | kerio | what would "connect" mean, there? |
| 18:18.24 | vi__ | IHNFC |
| 18:18.35 | kerio | for more capable things, i have "disconnect" when there's a connection |
| 18:18.42 | kerio | but no straight-up "connect" |
| 18:18.47 | vi__ | kerio: same here |
| 18:19.07 | vi__ | brb |
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| 18:28.20 | narcos | Anyone savvy with OpenVPN? |
| 18:29.04 | narcos | #openvpn is rather quiet today. When creating client certs in batch mode with pkitool, I'm getting the error "TXT_DB error number 2" resulting in a blank .crt file |
| 18:29.10 | narcos | I suspect I'm doing something 'silly' |
| 18:30.15 | Gh0sty | that does not look like an openvpn problem but an pkitool problem :p |
| 18:30.46 | narcos | I suspect it's a user problem at the end of the day :) |
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| 18:31.07 | narcos | Here's my config, and the outcome - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u0056buX |
| 18:31.45 | narcos | If I use "pkitool --interact", and enter the default values for all prompts, then all is well |
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| 21:11.04 | kerio | free |
| 21:11.08 | kerio | ah fuck |
| 21:11.31 | kerio | freemangordon: your fucking extkbd fucked up my layout |
| 21:14.52 | kerio | is rx-51 actually used by the bt keyboard? |
| 21:14.57 | kerio | i restored it now |
| 21:21.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | speech! |
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| 21:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3 times is probably too much, even for me |
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| 21:27.26 | vi__ | freemangordon: ping |
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| 21:34.12 | MrOpposite | How do I allow microb (or webpages) to access my GPS? |
| 21:34.32 | SpeedEvil | hmm |
| 21:34.46 | SpeedEvil | I vaguely remember something inatallable |
| 21:34.55 | SpeedEvil | search location. in ham |
| 21:34.57 | MrOpposite | Some time ago I got the question if I wanted to allow a certain site to use the GPS when I navigated to it |
| 21:35.32 | MrOpposite | But that site changed design, and it's now a javascripted button, which gives me an error message saying permission denied |
| 21:35.46 | MrOpposite | SpeedEvil ham? |
| 21:37.44 | SpeedEvil | hildon application manager |
| 21:38.04 | MrOpposite | ah, that slow thing :P |
| 21:38.21 | MrOpposite | I mainly use the terminal for package installation... |
| 21:40.03 | SpeedEvil | well apt-cache death location |
| 21:40.10 | SpeedEvil | search, not death |
| 21:41.24 | vi__ | search repos for microb geolocation |
| 21:41.48 | vi__ | I have NFC as to how it actually does it though. |
| 21:42.13 | MrOpposite | yea I did |
| 21:42.13 | MrOpposite | Looking at the microb-geolocation package atm |
| 21:42.13 | MrOpposite | Trying to figure out whenever it's IP based or GPS based |
| 21:42.21 | SpeedEvil | go |
| 21:42.25 | SpeedEvil | GOS |
| 21:42.27 | SpeedEvil | GPS |
| 21:43.16 | vi__ | obviously it is GPS based but how?? |
| 21:43.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | liblocation based |
| 21:44.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | search wiki for liblocation |
| 21:46.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | liblocation0 and maemo-geolocation, I'd guess |
| 21:48.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | liblocation does at least GPS based rough location, GPS and AGPS |
| 21:48.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | s/GPS/GSM/ |
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| 21:49.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's unclear if it does wifi location as well, ala skyhook |
| 21:50.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | we're all *very* happy it's another piece of software put by okia into FOSS... *NOT* |
| 21:52.57 | MrOpposite | whei! |
| 21:52.59 | MrOpposite | anyway |
| 21:53.16 | MrOpposite | I take it is the super-mega-awesome geolocation extension for microb I need |
| 21:53.18 | MrOpposite | and had installed |
| 21:53.21 | MrOpposite | now to the fun part |
| 21:53.29 | MrOpposite | where do I manage it's permissions? |
| 21:53.55 | MrOpposite | its* |
| 21:53.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | NFC |
| 21:54.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | about:settings? |
| 21:54.27 | MrOpposite | horray for easily cofigurable free software! |
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| 21:54.45 | MrOpposite | configurable* |
| 21:55.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | what's free in this POS? |
| 21:55.11 | vi__ | free? |
| 21:55.16 | vi__ | LOLLINNGTONS |
| 21:55.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | webkit engine? |
| 21:55.37 | vi__ | you are free to GTFO. |
| 21:55.44 | vi__ | accordingm to nokia. |
| 21:55.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | vi__: please! |
| 21:55.54 | MrOpposite | I was being sarcastic at the lack of documentation for the geolocation |
| 21:56.19 | MrOpposite | oh right |
| 21:56.24 | vi__ | I am unaware of there being any settings for geolocation for microb. |
| 21:56.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | oooh, it HAS quite a bit of docs in wiki |
| 21:56.32 | MrOpposite | really? |
| 21:56.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | like 3 screens full |
| 21:56.53 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer51: geolocation for microb? |
| 21:57.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | liblocation that is |
| 21:57.12 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer51: do you use a BT KB? |
| 21:57.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | no |
| 21:57.24 | MrOpposite | anyway |
| 21:57.26 | vi__ | have you ever? |
| 21:57.39 | MrOpposite | I've tried cofiguring the about:config page in microb once before |
| 21:57.52 | MrOpposite | it involved xforwarding to a desktop in order to use right-click |
| 21:57.56 | MrOpposite | is there an easier way? |
| 21:57.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's tricky |
| 21:58.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | nah, I recall I found a trick |
| 21:58.26 | vi__ | I got this one! |
| 21:58.31 | vi__ | ~vibinds |
| 21:58.38 | vi__ | ~vi_binds |
| 21:58.43 | vi__ | god dammit |
| 21:58.51 | vi__ | ~vi_bind |
| 21:58.59 | vi__ | ~vibind |
| 21:59.05 | vi__ | -_- |
| 21:59.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | was like typing name of parameter to top search |
| 21:59.16 | vi__ | how to search? |
| 21:59.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | where? |
| 21:59.30 | vi__ | list key thing |
| 21:59.34 | vi__ | here in irc |
| 21:59.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~listkeys xy |
| 22:00.04 | vi__ | ~listkeys vi |
| 22:00.50 | vi__ | someone deleted it? |
| 22:01.06 | vi__ | ~listkeys vi- |
| 22:01.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | deleted what? |
| 22:01.17 | vi__ | ~vi-kbd |
| 22:01.18 | infobot | i heard vi-kbd is http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 22:01.24 | vi__ | BOOYAH |
| 22:01.38 | vi__ | who wanted right click? |
| 22:01.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | there's also listvalues |
| 22:02.11 | vi__ | MrOpposite: ~vi-kbd |
| 22:02.27 | MrOpposite | thank you |
| 22:02.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | and something like author |
| 22:02.43 | MrOpposite | can I use the mouse-thingie without the actual keymap? |
| 22:02.55 | vi__ | MrOpposite: yes. |
| 22:03.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~author vi_ |
| 22:03.04 | MrOpposite | goodie |
| 22:03.10 | vi__ | you need xdotool and xbindkeys though. |
| 22:03.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh, there's ~help |
| 22:03.39 | vi__ | lets you use ctrl+click on screen to right click. |
| 22:04.55 | vi__ | the keymap is also thouroughly recommended |
| 22:06.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | indeed, though I didn't manage to deal with it yet |
| 22:08.35 | vi__ | gtg bb |
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| 23:31.54 | SpeedEvil | :'( |
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