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| 02:08.45 | iluminator105 | how do you turn on front facing camera at all times on n900? |
| 02:11.19 | SpeedEvil | umm... what? |
| 02:11.30 | SpeedEvil | little uses the front can |
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| 02:12.42 | iluminator105 | for surveillance |
| 02:19.03 | iluminator105 | ? |
| 02:22.18 | iluminator105 | permission to pm DocScrutinizer05 |
| 02:22.35 | iluminator105 | permission to pm DocScrutinizer51 i meant |
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| 02:24.53 | SpeedEvil | there probably isn't software to do this. of wouldn't be hard thouh,. |
| 02:25.37 | iluminator105 | how do you just turn on front facing camera |
| 02:26.56 | SpeedEvil | read the right /dev/video device |
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| 04:07.17 | kerio | vi__: no it fucking doesn't |
| 04:07.21 | kerio | (re:compcache) |
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| 05:21.49 | kerio | yay, python 2.7 ^_________^ |
| 05:22.52 | Luke-Jr | FAIL |
| 05:22.59 | kerio | ? |
| 05:23.03 | Luke-Jr | 2.7 = obsolete |
| 05:23.07 | Luke-Jr | 3.2 = current |
| 05:23.26 | kerio | W: Unable to locate package python3 |
| 05:23.28 | kerio | W: Unable to locate package python3.2 |
| 05:25.20 | kerio | hm, i wonder if doing alias python=python2.7 is a good idea |
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| 07:01.20 | iluminator105 | so how do you turn on front face camera in n900 |
| 07:01.40 | kerio | turn on FOR WHAT? |
| 07:02.28 | iluminator105 | permission to pm kerio |
| 07:02.32 | kerio | fuck off |
| 07:03.09 | iluminator105 | hey be nice |
| 07:03.13 | beford | you have my permission |
| 07:04.27 | iluminator105 | just turn on front facing camera its there might as well use it |
| 07:05.00 | beford | skype uses the front camera |
| 07:05.08 | beford | not sure if there are more apps that use it |
| 07:05.27 | iluminator105 | i could run ekiga and see if it turns the front facing camera |
| 07:06.03 | beford | i guess |
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| 07:10.18 | luf | let's find on tmo. There is thread that gstreamer can use front camera. I think also camera-ui replacement can use front camer. |
| 07:10.54 | luf | Unfortunately I don't have the link here. |
| 07:11.19 | iluminator105 | hmm... |
| 07:12.31 | beford | http://wiki.maemo.org/Streaming_video_from_built-in_webcam |
| 07:17.20 | Flyser | there is a mirror ap |
| 07:17.22 | Flyser | p |
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| 07:22.35 | flux | I've found the camera streaming tools for n900 aren't quite satisfactory |
| 07:22.46 | flux | for example I haven't found a way to focus the image |
| 07:22.53 | kerio | flux: what do you mean? it's gstreamer! |
| 07:24.02 | kerio | heh, "Image quality depends on hw revision" |
| 07:24.13 | kerio | no it fucking doesn't, camera-ui2 has a much better quality |
| 07:24.20 | flux | but I haven't tried/known about flumotion, should do that some day |
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| 09:29.18 | Lava_Croft | mo |
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| 09:38.32 | internetishard | moooooooooo |
| 09:41.26 | kerio | ยต |
| 09:41.43 | internetishard | very funny |
| 09:42.07 | internetishard | I'm gonna cry unless I get an iphone 5! waaaaaa |
| 09:42.10 | internetishard | lmao |
| 09:55.40 | chem|st | internetishard: cry babe |
| 09:56.35 | internetishard | yoyoyo |
| 09:56.46 | internetishard | 3am, bright eyed and bushy tailed |
| 09:57.01 | internetishard | 'YOLO@night' |
| 09:57.06 | kerio | does anyone play FTL? i need to brag about something |
| 09:57.41 | internetishard | q3 here. yo' shits obscure |
| 10:03.05 | SpeedEvil | @######---D### |
| 10:04.31 | SpeedEvil | ##physics enjoys discussion of FTL |
| 10:04.41 | SpeedEvil | ( not really ) |
| 10:07.34 | kerio | SpeedEvil: wtf is that? |
| 10:07.38 | kerio | dragon breathing in a corridor? |
| 10:08.10 | internetishard | SpeedEvil: what do you consider your speciality? |
| 10:10.23 | SpeedEvil | hardware/firmware, and disability regulations in the UK, specifically regulations, law and case law around employment and support allowance and disability living allowance. |
| 10:10.52 | SpeedEvil | ponders judicial review again. |
| 10:11.04 | internetishard | I take it you're disabled? |
| 10:13.09 | SpeedEvil | unfortunately. |
| 10:13.27 | internetishard | :( |
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| 10:23.43 | Lava_Croft | SpeedEvil: in case you are in a wheelchair, do a lot of people also approach you as if you are mentally disabled? |
| 10:23.48 | Lava_Croft | just because you are in a wheelchair? |
| 10:23.57 | Lava_Croft | I have that with a friend of mine who lost his legs in an accident |
| 10:24.02 | SpeedEvil | I am not. |
| 10:24.07 | Lava_Croft | Sometimes his reactions to such people are quite amusing |
| 10:24.09 | Lava_Croft | SpeedEvil: ah |
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| 10:24.56 | Lava_Croft | I wonder if its bad to feel curisoity regarding the kind of disability you have |
| 10:25.01 | SpeedEvil | I'm in the position I envy those that are in some ways. I look fit. I would have my legs cut off tomorrow if it would cure my chronic fatigue syndrome, |
| 10:25.05 | Lava_Croft | somewhere somehow it feels wrong to be curious |
| 10:25.14 | Lava_Croft | ah |
| 10:25.16 | Lava_Croft | Pfeiffer? |
| 10:25.22 | Lava_Croft | or worse |
| 10:26.06 | Lava_Croft | My wife had pfeiffer as a child, a friend of hers suffers from ME |
| 10:26.33 | Lava_Croft | especially the case of ME is pretty gruesome now and then, considering the fact that she looks fine physicallyt |
| 10:26.47 | Lava_Croft | much like you :| |
| 10:27.18 | SpeedEvil | it was likely triggered by some routine childhood virus. |
| 10:27.30 | Lava_Croft | how is it called |
| 10:27.39 | Lava_Croft | just chronic fatigue syndrome? |
| 10:27.44 | SpeedEvil | glandular fever |
| 10:27.50 | Lava_Croft | what glands? |
| 10:28.07 | Lava_Croft | which is better english |
| 10:28.13 | internetishard | I do biology |
| 10:28.18 | internetishard | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20209476 don't forget this |
| 10:28.19 | SpeedEvil | ME is an alternate name for CFS |
| 10:28.26 | Lava_Croft | SpeedEvil: yeah, thats why i asked |
| 10:28.32 | Lava_Croft | sometimes there is confusing about the naming |
| 10:28.38 | Lava_Croft | I thought i might be wrong/confused |
| 10:28.58 | Lava_Croft | That's a pretty nasty disability :\ |
| 10:29.08 | SpeedEvil | it varies. |
| 10:29.09 | Lava_Croft | a wall of misunderstanding |
| 10:29.20 | SpeedEvil | some are able to work fulltime. |
| 10:29.24 | internetishard | Have you also tried acupuncture? |
| 10:29.41 | Lava_Croft | SpeedEvil: yes, it can vary greatly |
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| 10:29.54 | Lava_Croft | Does it detiorate? |
| 10:30.08 | Lava_Croft | deteriorate whatever damn english |
| 10:30.10 | SpeedEvil | I have severe problems getting out, due to no legally operable car, and taxis being murderously expensive. |
| 10:30.24 | Lava_Croft | NHS doesnt provide transport? |
| 10:30.30 | SpeedEvil | my condition is at the moment stable. |
| 10:30.32 | Lava_Croft | as in, the money for it |
| 10:30.45 | Lava_Croft | good to hear |
| 10:30.54 | SpeedEvil | it's reliant on doctor referrals. |
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| 10:31.08 | Lava_Croft | i still somehow feel like a voyeur, talking about it with you on irc |
| 10:31.12 | Lava_Croft | ah |
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| 10:31.21 | Lava_Croft | so i take it your referrals arent 'good enough' for it |
| 10:31.26 | Lava_Croft | much the same situation as in NL |
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| 10:32.16 | Lava_Croft | and electric vehicles? |
| 10:32.32 | Lava_Croft | like an electric powered bicycle, or threewheel bicycle? |
| 10:32.55 | SpeedEvil | I've been over the last 6 weeks preparing a 30 or so page document going into various case law, and my disability in detail. irc is easy. |
| 10:33.08 | Lava_Croft | friend of my wife's has a three wheeled bycicle normally used by people with motoric disabilities |
| 10:33.11 | Lava_Croft | SpeedEvil: hah:D |
| 10:33.19 | Lava_Croft | only her's is electrically powered |
| 10:33.36 | Lava_Croft | she can, if she wants, also move herself, but the electric engine always backs her up |
| 10:33.36 | SpeedEvil | they are so ridiculously slow that they are unsuitable for getting to tow. |
| 10:33.39 | Lava_Croft | it works quite well |
| 10:33.45 | SpeedEvil | town |
| 10:33.46 | Lava_Croft | what? her's is fine |
| 10:33.56 | Lava_Croft | she can easily go 25km/h |
| 10:34.23 | SpeedEvil | they cannot legally go over 15km/h iirc |
| 10:34.29 | Lava_Croft | in NL they can |
| 10:34.36 | Lava_Croft | but 15km/h is pretty meh indeed |
| 10:34.42 | SpeedEvil | this is very unsuitable for country lanes. |
| 10:34.46 | Lava_Croft | you really need three wheels then |
| 10:34.50 | Lava_Croft | or else you just fall |
| 10:34.58 | Lava_Croft | yeah, i know UK country lanes:) |
| 10:35.08 | Lava_Croft | up and down winding roads, i love them |
| 10:35.36 | Lava_Croft | hmm, so its the 15km/h max that ruins it all |
| 10:35.41 | SpeedEvil | 'invalid carriage' is a separate and very limited class of vehicle. |
| 10:35.43 | Lava_Croft | who would have thought :< |
| 10:35.51 | Lava_Croft | here its just treated as a bicucle |
| 10:35.57 | Lava_Croft | bicycle* at least in her case it is |
| 10:36.14 | Lava_Croft | since its just a bicycle to begin with, not an 'invalid carriage' |
| 10:36.16 | SpeedEvil | problem is failing driving test due to failing concentration 30 main in. |
| 10:36.22 | Lava_Croft | hm |
| 10:36.43 | Lava_Croft | gotta love the law |
| 10:36.51 | SpeedEvil | minutes |
| 10:37.01 | Lava_Croft | i figured the typo:) |
| 10:37.27 | Lava_Croft | well, that makes your situation pretty fucked up, to put it mildly |
| 10:37.37 | SpeedEvil | I need to find out how to feed this vkbd 20m of IEC logs from me. |
| 10:37.42 | SpeedEvil | irc |
| 10:37.46 | Lava_Croft | hah |
| 10:37.55 | Lava_Croft | no idea |
| 10:39.39 | Lava_Croft | oh, the protocol surrounding ME with the NL equivalent of the NHS isnt all that either |
| 10:39.42 | Lava_Croft | i read now |
| 10:42.37 | SpeedEvil | problem is it's so variable. it ranges from people able to do fulltime work, and run a family, down to the bed-bound. |
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| 10:43.03 | Lava_Croft | that's what critics in NL apparently say about the approach that our NHS takes to CVS/ME |
| 10:44.05 | Lava_Croft | a narrow view |
| 10:44.17 | Lava_Croft | or in quake terms, a low FOV :) |
| 10:46.57 | SpeedEvil | it's hard to assess right, without someone spending a couple of weeks watching you. |
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| 10:55.53 | chem|st | we are polling everything and vote just BS! sd registered NFP named "hildon"... |
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| 10:57.19 | chem|st | just a name though |
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| 11:01.30 | vi__ | NHS is fucked. |
| 11:01.41 | vi__ | Tories sold off the good shit last time round. |
| 11:01.51 | vi__ | Now they are up for selling off the rest. |
| 11:02.12 | vi__ | But you have free healthcare vi_ |
| 11:02.15 | vi__ | ! |
| 11:02.33 | vi__ | Then why do I have to pay for goddamned dental work? |
| 11:03.06 | vi__ | WHy do I have to pay to extend the lives of fat useless smokers? |
| 11:03.32 | vi__ | What are we complaining about here? |
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| 11:08.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm not fat!!! |
| 11:08.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | useless mabe, but definitely not fat |
| 11:08.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | baybe* |
| 11:08.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh |
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| 11:15.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | vi__: isn't like a packet of cigs is ~10GBP at yours? what do you think the 9GBP tax in it will pay for? To me it seems the smokers pay for you, not other way round |
| 11:16.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | smokers pay billions of tax each year, and die conveniently early so all the tax can be used for the non-smokers |
| 11:17.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | smoker-haters, BAH! |
| 11:21.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~ping |
| 11:21.10 | infobot | ~pong |
| 11:21.54 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: like a forest? :D You'll win the olympic games :D |
| 11:22.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm? |
| 11:22.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | luf: sory, please rephrase |
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| 11:23.26 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: you play ping + pong with the wall or the bot like Forest Gump ;) |
| 11:23.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | aah |
| 11:24.03 | fizzie | Statistics for Finland from the Finnish Medical Association (I don't guarantee the quality of these) say that the yearly losses (direct health costs, loss of work, etc.) to "society" due to smoking are about 750-800 million euros, while the tax gained from sales of tobacco products is (very) slightly less than that. |
| 11:24.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | let's ring some bells |
| 11:24.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~ding |
| 11:24.19 | infobot | dong |
| 11:26.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | while that might be true for Finland, it for sure doesn't apply to countries like Germany or GB, where NHC is fuckedup |
| 11:29.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | and actually I won't allow them to count in 'loss of work' costs. It's *MY* work, I own it and I get (or not) paid for it, that's nothing to do with cost to society since my wok isn't owned by society |
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| 12:47.28 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer51: sup |
| 12:47.41 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer51: are u running for council/board? |
| 12:48.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | omgomgomgomg :-P |
| 12:49.04 | kerio | DOCSCRUTINIZER/FREEMANGORDON 2012 |
| 12:49.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | WUT? |
| 12:50.11 | kerio | like, yknow, elections |
| 12:50.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | don't dare to post a link, I'm mobile |
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| 12:51.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | just tell me what you're suggesting |
| 12:53.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | don't tell me FMG found time for council/board work in his calendar crammed with kernel hacking |
| 12:53.09 | kerio | haha |
| 12:53.11 | kerio | he should! |
| 12:54.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | since if he did, I'd probably run as well, to show him I can perform similarly poor |
| 12:54.31 | kerio | omfg |
| 12:54.49 | kerio | i vote DocScrutinizer as our eternal leader |
| 12:55.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | honestly, I think that's a poor idea |
| 12:55.24 | freemangordon | kerio: don't spread FUD please |
| 12:55.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | and neither council nor board are Leaders by any means |
| 12:56.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | both are meant to provide a sort of service to community |
| 12:56.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | not *lead* |
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| 12:56.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | afk, daywork calling |
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| 12:59.29 | rzr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:13.31 | r00t|home | rzr: don't have any demolition tools around? |
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| 14:18.19 | zsolt | hello everybody!need advice!i repartitioned emmc,got 14Gb fat,12Gb ext3 2Gb factory default emmc part and 700~Mb of swap |
| 14:18.54 | zsolt | i willing to move everything from factory part to 12Gb partition |
| 14:18.58 | zsolt | used rsync |
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| 14:19.23 | zsolt | how to mount 12Gb new part as /home/opt? |
| 14:19.54 | zsolt | patching vanilla kernel is not an option,since it is too dangerous |
| 14:20.05 | zsolt | sorry vanilla fs |
| 14:20.30 | zsolt | thank you so much |
| 14:20.46 | kerio | "patching" |
| 14:20.48 | kerio | what? |
| 14:21.03 | kerio | go edit the place where /home/opt is bindmounted to /opt |
| 14:21.09 | kerio | instead of doing that, mount your partition as /opt |
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| 14:22.20 | zsolt | it is a factory default phone and I'am an intermediate user,so could you tell me more details? |
| 14:22.37 | zsolt | where is this file to edit? |
| 14:24.36 | kerio | zsolt: edit the awk script that generates /etc/fstab |
| 14:24.48 | kerio | /opt is mounted with "mount /opt" |
| 14:25.47 | kerio | zsolt: /usr/lib/genfstab.awk |
| 14:27.43 | zsolt | well,I can't find any partition number |
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| 14:28.06 | zsolt | i need to use mmcblk0p4 instead of mmcblk0p2 |
| 14:28.14 | kerio | zsolt: oh god why |
| 14:28.27 | kerio | so you actually moved the /home partition? :s |
| 14:28.32 | kerio | you're screwed |
| 14:28.35 | zsolt | no |
| 14:28.38 | zsolt | didn't |
| 14:29.03 | kerio | oh, you just added a new partition at the end? |
| 14:29.04 | zsolt | just rsynced to a new partition |
| 14:29.05 | kerio | neat |
| 14:29.30 | kerio | still kind of a bad idea, most things will expect /opt to be a bindmount to /home/opt |
| 14:29.49 | zsolt | i know,but 2gigs are too small |
| 14:29.58 | kerio | but regardless, just change that line to "/dev/mmcblk0p4 /opt extwhatever whateveroptions 0 0" |
| 14:30.15 | kerio | (the line that says printf "/home/opt /opt/ none bind\n" |
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| 14:31.02 | zsolt | that's sounds great:) |
| 14:31.07 | zsolt | thank you |
| 14:31.21 | kerio | zsolt: a much, much, much more reliable solution would've been to make /home bigger |
| 14:32.28 | zsolt | i need a separate /opt partition |
| 14:32.33 | kerio | no you don't |
| 14:32.42 | kerio | unless you want to keep /home small, for some reason |
| 14:34.05 | kerio | is there? |
| 14:34.40 | kerio | hell, just /home in a separate partition forces maemo to do all kind of weird shit |
| 14:34.49 | kerio | adding another is even weirder |
| 14:35.29 | zsolt | :( |
| 14:35.46 | kerio | zsolt: do you have a backupmenu backup? |
| 14:35.51 | zsolt | i trying to keep original part untouched |
| 14:35.59 | zsolt | yes,i have |
| 14:36.07 | zsolt | no i'm in usb ssh |
| 14:36.15 | kerio | then you could do in a really cool way |
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| 14:42.05 | kerio | there's a file in the VANILLA image that decides the partition layout |
| 14:45.18 | zsolt | yes,i know |
| 14:45.56 | kerio | reflash, install previous kernel, install backupmenu, restore backupmenu backup |
| 14:46.33 | zsolt | i patched the latest vanilla image |
| 14:47.02 | zsolt | but I'm not so curious to flash it |
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| 14:52.27 | zsolt | ok,now got a that awk file |
| 14:52.56 | zsolt | seems it doesn't regenerates the fstab only if I change something there |
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| 15:08.28 | kerio | zsolt: it's generated on boot |
| 15:09.14 | zsolt | what about /etc/event.d/rcS-late? |
| 15:09.29 | zsolt | googled a lot |
| 15:09.58 | zsolt | but didn't find any solution |
| 15:10.22 | kerio | which "solution"? |
| 15:10.29 | kerio | /etc/fstab is generated every boot |
| 15:10.37 | kerio | on your next boot, you'll get your modified fstab |
| 15:10.50 | kerio | if you want to change it now... change it |
| 15:10.52 | kerio | it's a text file |
| 15:11.07 | StyXman | or just remove the call to the generator and live with a user managed fstab :) |
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| 15:12.11 | zsolt | where can i remove that call? |
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| 15:15.48 | kerio | zsolt: it's a file in /etc/event.d afaik |
| 15:16.52 | zsolt | thank you |
| 15:17.52 | kerio | "This file was generated by scripts /etc/event.d/rcS-late and /usr/lib/genfstab.awk" |
| 15:18.04 | kerio | zsolt: seriously, you're doing something stupid with this |
| 15:19.05 | kerio | StyXman: do you have a manual /etc/fstab? |
| 15:22.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol |
| 15:22.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | you kids seem to have some fun :-) |
| 15:25.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | while I waste my daytime to figure how to make WinXP taskmgr start on every boot |
| 15:25.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway |
| 15:26.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~jrtools |
| 15:26.00 | infobot | well, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 15:30.09 | StyXman | kerio: used to |
| 15:31.04 | kerio | StyXman: why did you stop? |
| 15:32.23 | zsolt | i did it,i did it:) |
| 15:32.26 | StyXman | kerio: at the end it made no sense having a ยตSD in ext* |
| 15:33.13 | StyXman | beh, I still have it |
| 15:33.14 | zsolt | uncommented lines and printf options >/etc/fstab |
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| 15:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly hope for you you'll survive next boot |
| 15:39.10 | rm_work | DocScrutinizer51: err, add a shortcut to Taskmgr.exe to the Startup folder? :P |
| 15:39.24 | rm_work | sounds like a boring day |
| 15:39.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | rrrright |
| 15:39.35 | bigotes | lol |
| 15:39.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | just have to use torturing memories of c:\windows\system32\ |
| 15:40.18 | rm_work | well, sounds a lot like my job too anyway :P |
| 15:41.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | since, well, seems taskmgr has no 'icon' anywhere |
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| 15:43.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | and my fist approach been to create a shortcut on desktop just to drag&drop it inot the autostart menu, just to find this creates a link to the desktop "icon2 I planned to delete after the action |
| 15:43.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | first* "icon" |
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| 15:44.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and still it seems the taskmgr option "minimize ob start" is defunct |
| 15:44.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | silly stuff |
| 15:45.34 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: how is it related to maemo? |
| 15:46.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily not at all, besides this nonsense doesn't allow me to dedicate more time to maemo/council/board |
| 15:46.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | and drives me nuts anyway |
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| 16:02.43 | kerio | i wonder if there's a way to open a fifo with openmediaplayer |
| 16:02.48 | kerio | (as a stream, obviously) |
| 16:03.45 | Woody14619 | <DocScrutinizer51> both are meant to provide a sort of service to community |
| 16:03.53 | Woody14619 | Just won my vote.... Just saying... |
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| 16:04.54 | kerio | yep |
| 16:05.26 | kerio | joerg for president! |
| 16:07.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | If you're crazy enough to vote a president who's constantly grumpy, lacks any social skills, and promises to dedicate no more than max 2h/week to that job, then go ahead ;-P |
| 16:08.00 | rm_work | DocScrutinizer05: oh... that's it? |
| 16:08.11 | kerio | everyone knows that you're always here anyway |
| 16:08.19 | rm_work | DocScrutinizer05: A, you can rightclick->drag the icon to the startup folder and choose copy instead of link |
| 16:08.34 | rm_work | second, you could open the startup folder in explorer and create the shortcut there directly |
| 16:08.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | rrright |
| 16:09.03 | rm_work | third, taskmgr DOES have an "icon", in that you can browse to it and right click->drag it to the startup folder too |
| 16:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it wasn't friggin windows, I probably would've known |
| 16:10.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | (drag to start folder) would seem it creates a copy of the binary |
| 16:10.14 | rm_work | right click drag |
| 16:10.17 | rm_work | not left click drah |
| 16:10.19 | rm_work | *drag |
| 16:10.28 | rm_work | right click drag always gives you a menu with you drop |
| 16:10.31 | Woody14619 | DocScrutinizer05: grumpy & lacks social skills? I can think of at least 2 of those elected the last cycle. ;) |
| 16:10.31 | rm_work | with options |
| 16:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | OOOH mighty mytserious magic ;-P |
| 16:11.03 | rm_work | the left click drag default is usually dumb :P |
| 16:11.20 | rm_work | copy when you want move, link when you want copy, move when you want link, etc |
| 16:11.28 | rm_work | just don't do it :P |
| 16:11.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I use shift and ctrl modifier keys |
| 16:11.47 | rm_work | well then, ALT is "link" |
| 16:11.59 | Woody14619 | rm_work: actually, it's pretty predictable. copy when on the same media, move when not, and link when going to a "special folder" (desktop, start menu, etc) |
| 16:12.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, seems sometimes it doesn't do what i'd expect it to |
| 16:12.03 | rm_work | in the same way that ctl/shift are copy/move |
| 16:12.14 | rm_work | Woody14619: well, yes, *I* know that |
| 16:12.23 | rm_work | but from the perspective of a normal user it is pretty random |
| 16:12.29 | Woody14619 | True |
| 16:13.09 | rm_work | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, you got it now? :P |
| 16:13.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 16:13.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | just annoyed me another 10 min of my life |
| 16:13.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | this afternoon |
| 16:13.47 | rm_work | would have helped earlier but i thought you were being sarcastic about it :/ |
| 16:13.58 | rm_work | the perils of text on the internet |
| 16:14.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and taskmgr still come up with full window, not in systray |
| 16:14.07 | rm_work | heh |
| 16:14.42 | rm_work | you want it to start minimized with "hide on minimize" option set? |
| 16:14.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 16:15.49 | rm_work | go to the shortcut for taskmgr you made, and go to properties |
| 16:16.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | (I would even prefer it to not be closeable at all by 'normal' means. I.E. closing the window just minimizes, or alternatively no [X] close button at upper right at all) |
| 16:16.22 | rm_work | that's... harder |
| 16:16.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think I managed that once, like 12 years ago |
| 16:16.47 | rm_work | anyway, on the "shortcut" tab, just change the dropdown for "run" from normal to minimized |
| 16:17.03 | rm_work | and once you set the option for "hide when minimized" once, it'll stay |
| 16:17.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | HEY, mille gracie! |
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| 16:18.31 | rm_work | DocScrutinizer05: the SECOND option on this page would be easier to roll out en-mass: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/permanently-add-the-task-manager-to-your-system-tray/5318594 |
| 16:18.40 | rm_work | just make a registry file and run it on every machine, done |
| 16:19.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | nice |
| 16:19.20 | rm_work | you know how to make a registry file? |
| 16:19.40 | rm_work | not sure if you're used to working with windows >_> |
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| 16:19.50 | rm_work | sorry if i'm vastly underestimating your skill level :P |
| 16:20.17 | rm_work | but sometimes with linux stuff people used to tell me "obviously you just need to make a startup script for this daemon" and i'd be like "WUT" |
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| 16:23.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 16:23.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know regedit |
| 16:24.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I won't need a .reg file right now for that, as it's only for my fsckng machine at job |
| 16:24.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | rm_work: thanks a lot :-) |
| 16:24.27 | rm_work | lol |
| 16:24.31 | rm_work | yeah np :P |
| 16:26.01 | Skry | I'm totally lost with windows, last time had one installed was xp when it was released, for few months. |
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| 16:27.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | last time I seriously touched those windows abominations been last century. since then I managed to mostly avid management of any such machine. Alas in industry you usually aren't admin of your own workstation, and you have to use what the company puts in front of you |
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| 16:27.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | avoid* |
| 16:28.37 | jacekowski | FFS, useless omron |
| 16:28.43 | jacekowski | i've had VSD blow up today |
| 16:29.01 | jacekowski | not here |
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| 16:30.09 | kerio | vsd? |
| 16:35.10 | Skry | should have paid more attention at school when we had C, I'm mentally so limited that I just cant get into that shit :S |
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| 16:35.27 | rm_work | I use Windows and Linux about equally |
| 16:36.05 | rm_work | I worked for quite a bit both before and during college as a windows repair guy |
| 16:37.13 | rm_work | it's just a specific design mindset |
| 16:37.32 | rm_work | dunno why i'm rambling useless info |
| 16:37.37 | rm_work | goes to lunch |
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| 16:46.07 | Skry | Pali: can I bug you some more about the charger driver? |
| 16:46.24 | Pali | yes |
| 16:46.56 | Skry | I'll query you |
| 16:50.16 | rzr | I fixed mine |
| 16:56.15 | kerio | Skry: but i'm interested too :( |
| 16:58.20 | Skry | kerio: what do you want to know? |
| 16:58.30 | kerio | stuffs |
| 16:58.46 | Skry | stuffs about what? :D |
| 17:00.31 | kerio | the charger driver |
| 17:00.37 | kerio | and the bme replacement |
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| 17:06.06 | Skry | kerio: charger driver works, you really should already be thanking Pali |
| 17:07.07 | Pali | kerio, bq2415x_charger already working in kernel-power |
| 17:07.34 | Pali | but Skry testing it with upstream kernel |
| 17:07.46 | kerio | neat |
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| 17:32.55 | kerio | alright, i just sold my soul to the devil |
| 17:32.56 | kerio | metaphorically |
| 17:33.02 | kerio | i installed a whatsapp client D: |
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| 18:18.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~broken-maemo |
| 18:18.56 | infobot | broken-maemo is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/known_broken_packages see this list for deprecated known borked packages |
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| 18:30.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: sure metaphorically. No sane devil would pay for your soul ;-P |
| 18:40.45 | deepy | Don't listen to him, I'd pay even if it was just slightly discounted |
| 18:40.53 | myuu__ | yeah im on win7 now i get so confused |
| 18:41.04 | myuu__ | but ive been having to use it more and more for class |
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| 19:59.55 | dump_01 | hi ppl! Please help me to locate sound profile configuration files on my n900. I want to copy General profile and create another one w/ different volume settings. Yes, i can create new profile w/ ProfilesX, but it will be completely new profile, but i want to copy General and edit some variables. Thanks in advance. |
| 20:00.23 | vi___ | some piece of shit has registered my nickname! |
| 20:00.44 | bigotes | you should have registered first |
| 20:01.09 | vi___ | merlin1991: ping! |
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| 20:02.34 | n900_ | hello |
| 20:03.20 | vi___ | mmc fails to sync after mass storage mode. Add sync to the end of osso-usb-mass-storage-disable for maximum win. |
| 20:03.23 | vi___ | Helloer: |
| 20:03.29 | vi___ | n900_: hello |
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| 20:14.55 | rapidfire101 | what the default location of downloads in maemo n900 the pwd for it |
| 20:16.15 | kerio | vi___: "fails to sync"? |
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| 20:26.35 | dump_01 | so, where to search for profile configuration on n900? |
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| 20:46.06 | kerio | how expensive is jabber, in term of data and thus battery drain? |
| 20:48.11 | rzr | less that skype |
| 20:49.21 | vi___ | kerio: jabber==feck all. |
| 20:49.31 | kerio | rzr: it's also less expensive than folding@home, i assume |
| 20:49.35 | kerio | it's not really helpful |
| 20:49.44 | vi___ | one can only assume skype is riddled with spy-spam. |
| 20:49.53 | kerio | it's like saying an algorithm is O(busybeaver(n)) |
| 20:50.19 | jacekowski | kerio: a lot |
| 20:50.27 | kerio | jacekowski: even on wifi? |
| 20:50.28 | vi___ | dump_01: why can't you just copy it manually? it is only a few parameters. |
| 20:50.30 | kerio | :( |
| 20:50.32 | jacekowski | kerio: even more on wifi |
| 20:50.36 | kerio | ...wait, what? |
| 20:50.52 | jacekowski | it's better to have it on 2g with wifi off |
| 20:50.56 | vi___ | jacekowski: I think kt is slightly less that a lot. I think it is 'qute a bit'. |
| 20:51.18 | dump_01 | vi___: i can, and i think i will do |
| 20:51.29 | kerio | jacekowski: hold on, why would jabber on gprs be cheaper than jabber on wifi? |
| 20:51.34 | kerio | wifi has powersaving |
| 20:52.00 | jacekowski | have you ever seen that powersaving working? |
| 20:52.22 | vi___ | lol. powersaving. |
| 20:52.48 | jacekowski | wifi uses plenty of power compared to idling 2g |
| 20:53.06 | jacekowski | and with wifi on you still have 2g/3g running |
| 20:54.54 | vi___ | what is your profession jacekowski ? |
| 20:55.05 | jacekowski | why do you ask? |
| 20:55.26 | vi___ | Just curious. |
| 20:55.42 | jacekowski | at the moment, it seems to be blowing up VSDs |
| 20:55.56 | vi___ | ~VSD |
| 20:56.14 | ShadowJK | gets about same power consumption with xchat on 2g as on wifi. My old accesspoint caused about double power consumption on wifi, but only when windows PCs were active on the LAN |
| 20:56.43 | vi___ | this will make you laugh. |
| 20:57.21 | vi___ | My boos says today, I want you to toughen up the serial port control of our sensor. |
| 20:57.44 | vi___ | there is some bug that causes it to freak out and delete whole pages of flash. |
| 20:57.56 | vi___ | holy shit I say, that is serious. |
| 20:58.29 | vi___ | apparently it is because there is garbage on the line. |
| 20:58.46 | vi___ | wrap it in ferrite I suggest. |
| 20:59.26 | vi___ | No he says, the garbage comes from the software communicating with the device. |
| 20:59.47 | vi___ | where does that software come from I asked. |
| 20:59.54 | vi___ | He says it is in house. |
| 21:00.05 | vi___ | wut. |
| 21:00.48 | ShadowJK | Be graceful about the input, and strict about your output? Or something like that |
| 21:01.09 | vi___ | Our in house software spams the serial port with garbage and that cuases our products to go nuts and you want to try to resolve the problem by dicking with the firmware? |
| 21:01.22 | freemangordon | in house, but closed source? closed source as there is noone to maintain it. |
| 21:01.38 | vi___ | no no. in house. |
| 21:01.45 | vi___ | written in house. |
| 21:01.52 | vi___ | by fucking retards. |
| 21:01.54 | freemangordon | yes, I understand that |
| 21:02.18 | jacekowski | how do you even do that |
| 21:02.23 | kerio | jacekowski: i get about 10mA on wifi with no traffic in and out |
| 21:02.31 | kerio | so yeah, i'm fairly certain i've got wifi powersaving working |
| 21:02.53 | freemangordon | vi__: my point was that if there is noone who knows how it works, it could be closed source as well :) |
| 21:02.56 | ShadowJK | 10mA is down in the range where measurement method makes a difference |
| 21:03.12 | vi___ | our in house software is written in pascal. |
| 21:03.15 | kerio | ShadowJK: bq27200.sh |
| 21:03.16 | jacekowski | best thing to do would be to compare battery level after few hours |
| 21:03.24 | kerio | :D |
| 21:03.25 | vi___ | we have ALL the source code. |
| 21:03.39 | kerio | jacekowski: that's assuming i can last a few hours without playing with my n900 |
| 21:03.48 | ShadowJK | kerio; yes but I mean with a 5s interval it'll take offline N900 up to 10mA even |
| 21:03.49 | jacekowski | nighttime? |
| 21:04.10 | freemangordon | vi__: do you have pascal developers? |
| 21:04.29 | jacekowski | vi___: how do you spam serial port with shit |
| 21:04.33 | vi___ | not spamming the serial port with horse shit seems like a pretty simple requirement for a programused to send stuff over a serial port. |
| 21:04.44 | freemangordon | pascal was outdated for how many? 15 years? |
| 21:04.52 | jacekowski | freemangordon: 0 |
| 21:04.57 | vi___ | freemangordon: our in house programmers use pascal. |
| 21:05.06 | jacekowski | freemangordon: there is nothing wrong with pascal |
| 21:05.10 | ShadowJK | Not acting on horeshit seems like a simple req too :) |
| 21:05.17 | freemangordon | who said there is something wrong? |
| 21:05.20 | vi___ | jacekowski: there is nothing wrong with fortran. |
| 21:05.28 | jacekowski | freemangordon: and i would take object pascal over C++ any day |
| 21:05.28 | freemangordon | and cobol too |
| 21:05.41 | freemangordon | delphi? |
| 21:05.45 | jacekowski | yeah |
| 21:06.03 | vi___ | ShadowJK: I did not write this abomination of firmware, I just have to fix it. |
| 21:06.07 | freemangordon | it is (was) good |
| 21:06.08 | jacekowski | more i deal with C++ and it's way of doing OOP by linking all disadvantage of C and OOP in single language |
| 21:06.29 | jacekowski | the more i realise how good object pascal is |
| 21:06.34 | freemangordon | unfortunately borland died |
| 21:06.55 | freemangordon | though I was using cbuilder (because of the language) |
| 21:06.56 | RST38h | C++ is not an OOP language, so I do not see what you are complaining about |
| 21:07.01 | vi___ | loves some turbo C |
| 21:07.05 | RST38h | it is C with objects |
| 21:07.23 | RST38h | where "object" = "structure with data and some function pointers" |
| 21:07.31 | jacekowski | and overloading that makes 2+2==5 true |
| 21:07.44 | jacekowski | and debugging complicated |
| 21:07.56 | vi___ | they have major bits of processing within interrupt service routines... |
| 21:08.25 | freemangordon | vi__: what os is that running, DOS 3.30? |
| 21:08.45 | vi___ | lol |
| 21:08.47 | vi___ | none |
| 21:08.54 | vi___ | it is an embedded system. |
| 21:09.02 | freemangordon | the software in question, not the firmware |
| 21:09.17 | vi___ | hah. |
| 21:09.25 | jacekowski | and then for strings in C++ you get std string and C type char |
| 21:09.31 | jacekowski | both doing exactly same thing in the end |
| 21:09.34 | vi___ | xp I think. |
| 21:09.36 | jacekowski | but not exactly compatible |
| 21:10.04 | freemangordon | jacekowski: you're mixing things, those are libraries, not a part of the language itself |
| 21:10.31 | freemangordon | std:: |
| 21:11.17 | kerio | c++, the indecidable language |
| 21:11.23 | jacekowski | freemangordon: part of the standard |
| 21:11.28 | jacekowski | freemangordon: therefore part of the language |
| 21:11.48 | ShadowJK | like libc part of c? |
| 21:11.59 | freemangordon | exactly |
| 21:12.53 | freemangordon | jacekowski: you may use C/C++ to write whatever piece of code, vi__'s firmware for example |
| 21:13.06 | freemangordon | without using any "standarts" |
| 21:13.15 | freemangordon | c/c++ != posix |
| 21:13.22 | freemangordon | AFAIK |
| 21:13.32 | jacekowski | nobody said posix |
| 21:13.43 | freemangordon | ok, that was just an example |
| 21:15.23 | freemangordon | my co-workers use it to program embedded devices using vendor's libs, which are missing basic "ordinary" functions. But they still use C/C++ |
| 21:15.37 | jacekowski | overloading is part of C++ itself |
| 21:15.43 | freemangordon | yes, it is |
| 21:15.58 | jacekowski | and every time i see that i know it's going to be painful to debug |
| 21:16.31 | jacekowski | and worse thing is, that you never know what a+b will do |
| 21:17.04 | freemangordon | again, this is not part of C, but from the library you link with |
| 21:17.41 | jacekowski | you may end up with code like that a=2;b=2;c=a+b; and c would = 5 in the end |
| 21:17.55 | freemangordon | so? |
| 21:18.14 | freemangordon | I don;t want my compiler to restrict me in what I am doing |
| 21:19.38 | kerio | freemangordon: you deserve the worst |
| 21:20.08 | freemangordon | kerio: and you deserve no new bb-power-thumb ;) |
| 21:20.35 | kerio | :'( |
| 21:20.44 | vi___ | MOAR THUMB. |
| 21:20.50 | kerio | WE REQUIRE MOAR THUMB |
| 21:21.23 | vi___ | THIS THUMB YOU SPEAK OF, IT IS VERY MUCH RELEVENT TO MY INTERESTS IN THUMB. |
| 21:21.50 | freemangordon | kerio: no more thumb for you , only other fingers :P |
| 21:22.01 | kerio | ...the ring finger? |
| 21:22.16 | freemangordon | guess |
| 21:22.39 | kerio | the pinky! |
| 21:22.47 | vi___ | I wish there was a thumb debian branch. That would be sweeeeeet. |
| 21:23.03 | freemangordon | vi__: ubuntu 12.04 is thumb |
| 21:23.18 | vi___ | ZOMFG. |
| 21:23.26 | freemangordon | thumb+hardfp |
| 21:23.32 | vi___ | Does it come as strait up debian? |
| 21:23.40 | vi___ | thumb+hardfp. |
| 21:24.07 | kerio | wait, we use softfp? |
| 21:24.08 | kerio | :o |
| 21:24.10 | vi___ | can thumb kernel even hardfp in chroot? |
| 21:24.20 | freemangordon | afaik no |
| 21:24.24 | vi___ | lame. |
| 21:24.32 | freemangordon | though... |
| 21:24.37 | vi___ | ... |
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| 21:25.09 | freemangordon | i might be wrong, as maybe it is libc who deals with that stuff, not kernel |
| 21:25.24 | vi___ | I have lierally NFC. |
| 21:25.31 | freemangordon | me too :D |
| 21:25.42 | freemangordon | those are just wild guesses |
| 21:25.47 | bigotes | near field comm |
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| 21:25.47 | vi___ | I just know HFP+thumb==MOAR BETTER. |
| 21:26.15 | vi___ | did you see some guy compiled latest nmap. |
| 21:26.28 | freemangordon | isn't it in repos? |
| 21:26.32 | vi___ | it now works. |
| 21:26.47 | freemangordon | anyway, I am going to have some sleep |
| 21:26.51 | freemangordon | night |
| 21:26.56 | vi___ | version 5.ARSE is in the repos, totally broken. |
| 21:26.58 | vi___ | bb |
| 21:27.05 | vi___ | he compiled 6 |
| 21:27.22 | vi___ | and flash 10! |
| 21:27.33 | vi___ | N900 is not beaten yet! |
| 21:27.45 | vi___ | although I want to know who found it. |
| 21:27.55 | vi___ | Il wager it was merlin1991 |
| 21:29.19 | kerio | vi___: link to nmap 6? |
| 21:29.34 | Woody14619 | Aww.. vi___ You do know, "I'm saving my thumbs for you!" Right? ;) |
| 21:29.55 | Woody14619 | Opps, my bad. "I'm saving my thumbs for You!" There.. much better. ;) |
| 21:30.00 | vi___ | is mildly aroused. |
| 21:30.39 | Woody14619 | If you got the reference, I doubt you would be. ;) |
| 21:31.03 | vi___ | kerio: it is on his server somewhere. |
| 21:31.10 | kerio | whose server? |
| 21:31.20 | vi___ | Woody14619: ...or maybe i do! |
| 21:31.34 | vi___ | kerio: cannot remember. |
| 21:31.43 | vi___ | kerio: I have the deb. |
| 21:32.05 | Woody14619 | Do You? Do You really? I don't know if You know who I'm talking about. ;) |
| 21:32.26 | Woody14619 | Anyway... off to play games... err.. I mean.. Test CC apps to find out who I want to vote for. :) |
| 21:32.33 | vi___ | ok. I have no idea. |
| 21:32.44 | vi___ | hah. |
| 21:33.09 | Woody14619 | Clearly it's he who must not be named (or enter the room, as he's been kick/banned). |
| 21:33.24 | Skry | softfp kernel works fine with hardfp userland. |
| 21:33.35 | Woody14619 | Anyway. Enjoy, and will see you all Monday... |
| 21:33.49 | Woody14619 | Also, don't forget, only one more week to nominate yourself (and others) to Council and/or the Board. |
| 21:33.50 | vi___ | have a good weekend mate. |
| 21:34.15 | Woody14619 | (Yes, that's going on right now... only 2 nominations so far...) |
| 21:34.45 | kerio | Woody14619: is E* one of them? |
| 21:34.55 | bigotes | mm I need to see the logs |
| 21:35.20 | bigotes | why this happened and I didn't notice it D: |
| 21:35.28 | Woody14619 | kerio: I will never tell You! ;) |
| 21:35.50 | kerio | Woody14619: it would be a nice excuse to force DocScrutinizer to nominate himself |
| 21:36.06 | vi___ | kerio: http://spoofy.webd.pl/pwniephone/download/nmap_6.01-1_armel.deb |
| 21:36.17 | Woody14619 | Lol... don't tempt me. ;) |
| 21:36.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | F U |
| 21:36.30 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: <3 |
| 21:36.31 | Woody14619 | LOL! :) |
| 21:36.36 | vi___ | dunno if it is optmised |
| 21:36.45 | kerio | vi___: 404 here |
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| 21:36.57 | vi___ | I have most of the directory symlinked anyway |
| 21:37.02 | Woody14619 | Anyway, have a good weekend! C'ya! |
| 21:37.03 | bigotes | if we vote for him he will be obligated to accept |
| 21:37.11 | kerio | bigotes: of course |
| 21:37.16 | kerio | it's like the army |
| 21:37.21 | bigotes | that's democracy right there |
| 21:37.28 | kerio | but people can enlist other people |
| 21:38.20 | vi___ | fuck knows then |
| 21:38.28 | vi___ | his name was spoofy. |
| 21:39.12 | vi___ | I have the deb if you can think of an easy way to get it to you that requires little to no effort on mhy part. |
| 21:39.42 | vi___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.43 | vi___ | bb |
| 21:39.47 | vi___ | :q |
| 21:39.50 | vi___ | |
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| 21:42.13 | kerio | vi__: dropbox? |
| 21:42.14 | kerio | idk |
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| 22:09.33 | kerio | "Anyway those are Qt standard QTextInput fields, I have no control of that. That would be a Qt problem, not a Yappari problem." |
| 22:09.41 | kerio | then why the hell doesn't my shift+fn combo work? D: |
| 22:09.43 | kerio | fucking qt |
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| 22:29.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what's the threat now??? |
| 22:32.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: thou shalt not call my name in vain! |
| 22:32.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | wazzup?? |
| 22:33.05 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hmm... which threat? |
| 22:33.07 | kerio | there's plenty |
| 22:33.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | <kerio> Woody14619: it would be a nice excuse to force DocScrutinizer to nominate himself |
| 22:33.22 | kerio | oh right |
| 22:33.29 | kerio | the eventual nomination of the dude with the E and the _ |
| 22:34.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ducks and covers |
| 22:34.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | do you ever knew, THIS ASSHOLE WRITING THESE WORDS VOTED FOR HIM |
| 22:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, my definite coming-out |
| 22:35.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably I have to resign now from internet at large, to evade shitstorms |
| 22:35.56 | kerio | but now you have the chance to make it better |
| 22:35.59 | kerio | ! |
| 22:36.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya, 2h/week, and grupy mood guaranteed |
| 22:37.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I promise I'll not go apeshit mad about my new perceived powers that aren't real |
| 22:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm considering not to reject reasonable 3rd party nominations |
| 22:38.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll get what you asked for, anyway ;-D |
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| 22:39.39 | Skry | thats the spirit! :) |
| 22:39.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | now it's up to you |
| 22:40.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | please keep in mind I didn't ask for anything! I'd prefer to do more nice things with my scarce leisure time |
| 22:41.21 | MrPingu | Hi |
| 22:41.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | also (though in the end that's up to every single one of you) keep in mind I'd prefer board to council |
| 22:42.38 | kerio | what's the difference, again? |
| 22:42.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr |
| 22:43.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | board does legalese, while council does Dr Freud? |
| 22:43.34 | kerio | who does Dr Seuss? |
| 22:43.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sigmund, you know him |
| 22:44.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | thoufg, sometimes we have to find some decent psycho therapist for council mebers X-P |
| 22:44.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | though* |
| 22:45.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ...some of them, at least |
| 22:45.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know what i'm talking bout |
| 22:46.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw: |
| 22:46.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | woody: thanks for the prodding |
| 22:47.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know you never misunderstood role and meaning of council (unlike some others who evidently did) |
| 22:47.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | *one* other person? |
| 22:48.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd not like to imply more than I meant to do |
| 22:49.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, if "some others" includes tmo users asking for new monarchy to save them from taking own POV and decision, then probably it's more than one person |
| 22:52.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, keep in mind that I'm saving my scarce leisure time by not rewading all new threads on tmo. Actually I take pride in being agnostic to that lesser pleasant aspect of possible maemo life |
| 22:52.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW, if you want me to participate in tmo or ML, toss me a link on IRC please |
| 22:52.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise it didn't happen |
| 22:53.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, -w |
| 22:53.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka "reading*" |
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| 23:15.56 | kerio | nah, i just like to link you the E*_ rants i stumble upon |
| 23:21.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | mkfifo stfu |
| 23:21.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | dd if=dev/zero of=stfu |
| 23:22.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | dd if=stfo of=jerio |
| 23:22.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^C |
| 23:22.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | dd if=stfo of=kerio |
| 23:24.10 | kerio | dd: stfo: No such file or directory |
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| 23:28.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I admit I have no decent answer for this, not even a bindmount |
| 23:28.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably we could ship a fix in CSSU |
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| 23:31.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I might craft something depending on locales and dedicated charsets |
| 23:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | summons Raster to comment on E* rants |
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