| 00:04.03 | LaoLang_cool | Is there an app to record a missed call's duration of ringing? |
| 00:10.30 | Skry | LaoLang_cool: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7740 |
| 00:10.32 | povbot_ | 04Bug 7740: Missing call duration for each call in Phone UI |
| 00:12.11 | LaoLang_cool | Skry, I want missed calls duration, not answered call's duration |
| 00:12.52 | LaoLang_cool | I want to know how long a call that I missed has ringed on n900 |
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| 00:16.10 | Skry | if there is no call duration in rtcomm-eventlogger i doubt there is one for missed calls |
| 00:16.39 | Skry | cant confirm this though |
| 00:17.10 | Skry | this might be your best bet http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/extcalllog/ |
| 00:22.10 | LaoLang_cool | Skry, thank you for the infos |
| 00:25.19 | Skry | np, hopefully someone with more knowledge of maemo internals can tell you more. |
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| 01:19.10 | GGon | outlook.com is going to be pretty awesome once ms is done with it |
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| 01:50.02 | kakashi_ | GGon: and then just like other m$ products, it would be catering to corporations. |
| 01:50.22 | GGon | who cares |
| 01:50.26 | GGon | windows 7 works fine for an end user ;) |
| 01:50.34 | GGon | but outlook.com is great |
| 01:50.48 | GGon | i can honestly say once it is done it will be far better than google based products |
| 01:50.51 | GGon | but they need to finish it |
| 01:51.04 | kakashi_ | GGon: wishful thinking :) |
| 01:51.14 | GGon | realistic thinking ;) |
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| 01:52.01 | kakashi_ | well, time would do the trick! we need to wait and watch |
| 01:52.50 | kakashi_ | but, I wouldn't bet on m$ft so much. It would most certainly be another "bing" experiment! |
| 01:52.59 | kakashi_ | grabs a bong |
| 01:54.04 | GGon | yah |
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| 05:15.43 | GGon | using my n900.... tethered to my lumia 900 |
| 05:15.46 | GGon | fail |
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| 07:35.45 | cityLights | morning! |
| 07:36.31 | cityLights | I am trying to upgrade cssu and it asks me to connect the n900 to the pc - why? |
| 07:37.07 | freemangordon | cityLights: what is written in th "problems" tab in application mamanger? |
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| 07:37.52 | freemangordon | feels his typing skills are degrading over time |
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| 07:41.03 | cityLights | hi freemangordon : it complaint about the operator name widget |
| 07:41.10 | cityLights | and I can't remove it |
| 07:42.13 | cityLights | minute saw it at home , bring it up now |
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| 07:46.33 | cityLights | " Unable to update ' Maemo 5 community ssy package' |
| 07:47.08 | cityLights | conflict with application packages: Operator name widget (<3.0) |
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| 07:48.16 | kerio | cityLights: upgrade that one first |
| 07:48.33 | cityLights | right |
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| 07:48.42 | cityLights | working |
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| 07:49.37 | cityLights | any news about when joola is planing to send developpers their new phone? |
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| 07:51.05 | kerio | Jolla Mobile - because open mobile platforms must have silly names, by contract |
| 07:51.22 | jaska | jolla being a small boat thingy |
| 07:52.24 | cityLights | did anyone solved the issue of syncing the N900 with gcal as in the n9? |
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| 07:54.36 | BCMM | cityLights: is the new phone actually definitely happening? |
| 07:54.57 | kerio | BCMM: yeah, but with no hwkbd |
| 07:55.02 | BCMM | :( |
| 07:55.22 | BCMM | still awesome that proper linux as a mobile platform isn't dying |
| 07:55.24 | kerio | at least, it's highly unlikely |
| 07:55.48 | BCMM | is their OS likely to (unofficially) run on the n900? |
| 07:56.42 | cityLights | probably need a better cpu |
| 07:57.57 | BCMM | i would hope the OS itself doesn't push the system to its limits... |
| 07:58.23 | kerio | BCMM: nemo+mer runs on the n900 |
| 07:58.50 | BCMM | kerio: i keep meaning to find out about that. what should i be running on my n900? |
| 07:59.09 | BCMM | and what degree of application compatibility exists between all those somewhat-maemoish things now? |
| 07:59.13 | kerio | fremantle |
| 07:59.41 | kerio | which applications? XD |
| 08:00.28 | BCMM | say, a typical Qt application. does it need recompilation? does it need modification? |
| 08:00.48 | BCMM | does anything apart from the n900 have the FCam API? |
| 08:00.52 | kerio | probably UI modifications |
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| 08:01.10 | kerio | qtm is fairly consistent across mobile OSes |
| 08:01.31 | kerio | so you shouldn't need too many changes |
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| 08:11.50 | BCMM | kerio: thanks |
| 08:12.38 | kerio | note that qt uses more memory, though |
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| 08:46.25 | Jade | hi |
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| 09:54.10 | Lava_Croft | BCMM: I think there work has been done on Fcam for Harmattan |
| 09:54.15 | Lava_Croft | there was* |
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| 09:57.03 | peetah | some one can tell me what is the result of dpkg -S /usr/lib/microb-engine/libnssutil3.so ? |
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| 09:57.46 | JZA | hi anyone know if the facebook sharing widget was updated |
| 09:57.55 | JZA | it stop working on my phone since July |
| 09:58.10 | JZA | or June, I guess facebook switched to OAuth2 and broke the widget |
| 09:58.17 | JZA | but I dunno if there is either an update or an alternative |
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| 09:58.31 | JZA | I am using CSSU 5 |
| 09:58.34 | Lava_Croft | JZA: its not updated and it wont work |
| 09:58.44 | Lava_Croft | JZA: I use Pixelpipe to upload images to FB from n900 |
| 09:58.57 | Lava_Croft | Far from ideal, but it works |
| 09:59.11 | JZA | Lava_Croft: how hard/easy is to visualize, since I have hundred of pics |
| 09:59.26 | Lava_Croft | Pixelpipe just adds another sharing account to the N900 |
| 09:59.30 | JZA | I use email as an alternative as well. |
| 09:59.38 | JZA | I see, ok so it works from the 'share account' |
| 09:59.39 | JZA | good |
| 09:59.46 | Lava_Croft | and you can share it to Pixelpipe and have Pixelpipe share it to fb, or twitter, or whatever |
| 10:00.00 | JZA | ok sounds good, will check it out |
| 10:00.30 | Lava_Croft | The deb for it might be a bit hard to locate |
| 10:01.35 | Lava_Croft | JZA: I got it from here http://maemos.ru/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Pixelpipe_Single_Service.zip |
| 10:01.41 | Lava_Croft | it contains other debs for sharing services too |
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| 10:02.32 | JZA | Lava_Croft: thanks |
| 10:02.45 | Lava_Croft | no problem, it annoyed the shit out of me before:) |
| 10:02.58 | Lava_Croft | and then when i found out pixelpipe worked, i had trouble location the .deb :) |
| 10:03.04 | Lava_Croft | locating* |
| 10:08.30 | peetah | anyone for my quick command line result ? dpkg -S /usr/lib/microb-engine/libnssutil3.so |
| 10:09.37 | Lava_Croft | libnss3 |
| 10:10.25 | peetah | thanks |
| 10:10.34 | Lava_Croft | np |
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| 10:57.03 | zap | My N900 is f*d after upgrading kernel-power. Are there any recipes how I can revive it? It shows the NOKIA logo and then reboots again |
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| 11:01.30 | Sicelo | reflash kernel |
| 11:07.10 | zap | yep, this helped. thanks |
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| 11:47.05 | spoofy | Hi. I compile the latest nmap. If someone intrested here's a link > http://spoofy.webd.pl/pwniephone/download/nmap_6.01-1_armel.deb |
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| 11:52.57 | vi__ | spoofy: cool. |
| 11:53.14 | vi__ | Does it fix all the problems with root/user wlan0 not found? |
| 11:53.25 | spoofy | vi__: yeap :) |
| 11:53.59 | vi__ | I have a boner already. |
| 11:54.04 | vi__ | Get it into the dev repos! |
| 11:55.05 | spoofy | Now I'm working on latest midori and working aptitude |
| 11:55.30 | vi__ | spoofy: I like you. |
| 11:55.35 | spoofy | I succesfuly compile latest postgres (for metasploit) |
| 11:55.44 | spoofy | but I cannot make a .deb package |
| 11:56.33 | spoofy | vi__: Thanks :D |
| 11:56.41 | vi__ | spoofy: the address: |
| 11:56.42 | vi__ | http://spoofy.webd.pl/pwniephone/download/nmap_6.01-1_armel.deb |
| 11:56.47 | vi__ | does not work. |
| 11:56.50 | vi__ | Cannot resolve. |
| 11:57.21 | spoofy | w8 |
| 11:57.27 | spoofy | Let me try |
| 11:58.23 | spoofy | try again - we have a hosting problems http://spoofy.webd.pl/pwniephone/download/nmap_6.01-1_armel.deb |
| 11:59.05 | vi__ | DLing@250KB/s |
| 12:00.14 | jacekowski | there is nmap in repository |
| 12:00.19 | jacekowski | hmm |
| 12:00.25 | jacekowski | spoofy: upload it to extras |
| 12:00.58 | spoofy | This is for testing now - I must recompile it again with working zenmap |
| 12:01.27 | spoofy | jacekowski: I saw your chrome. Maybe you can help me with webkit for midori? |
| 12:01.49 | jacekowski | not really |
| 12:02.02 | Sicelo | spoofy: \o/ |
| 12:02.16 | jacekowski | you can download sources of chrome and then check what i've done to get that to work |
| 12:02.29 | spoofy | jacekowski: Ok I'll try ;) |
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| 12:02.40 | jacekowski | svn.jacekowski.org |
| 12:02.50 | jacekowski | most of it is there |
| 12:03.04 | vi__ | jacekowski: nmap in repos is utterly broken. |
| 12:03.38 | vi__ | This version appears to fix the root/user permissions and wlan0 not found bugs. |
| 12:04.03 | vi__ | It also appears to not be suffering from the 'broken shell after quitting a scan' bug. |
| 12:04.06 | spoofy | Yeah.. I check many code lines and apply some patches |
| 12:04.12 | vi__ | Good job spoofy. |
| 12:04.21 | spoofy | vi__: Thank you ;) |
| 12:04.29 | vi__ | now takes ownership of nmap in the repo and promote this shit :) |
| 12:04.54 | spoofy | vi__: first I must recompile it with working zenmap :) |
| 12:05.05 | vi__ | spoofy: zenmap...meh. |
| 12:05.15 | vi__ | Gui is for noobz. |
| 12:05.17 | spoofy | vi__: yeah I know :P But |
| 12:05.27 | spoofy | If something can work why not :) |
| 12:05.35 | vi__ | :) |
| 12:10.32 | Sicelo | hmm, spoofy, is this nmap optified? |
| 12:10.46 | vi__ | Sicelo: I appears to be. |
| 12:10.54 | vi__ | ^it. |
| 12:11.01 | vi__ | I have lost no root space. |
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| 12:13.16 | vi__ | also, /usr/share/nmap is symlinked to /opt/nmap. |
| 12:13.21 | vi__ | wait.. |
| 12:13.28 | vi__ | maybe I did that ages ago. |
| 12:13.31 | vi__ | IDK. |
| 12:13.33 | vi__ | IDGAF. |
| 12:14.11 | Sicelo | this one is /usr/bin/nmap |
| 12:14.26 | Sicelo | i seem to have lost rootfs space for sure |
| 12:15.09 | Sicelo | another thing.. which package provides libsvn_client-1.so.0 , which this one seems to need |
| 12:15.13 | Sicelo | ? |
| 12:15.55 | spoofy | Sicelo: I think it's not optified yet |
| 12:16.27 | spoofy | Sicelo: subversion? |
| 12:17.18 | Sicelo | and nmap has a 'genuine' dependency on that? |
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| 12:21.45 | spoofy | Sicelo: hmm.. I don't know but it is possible that the new nmap depends on subversion |
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| 12:23.56 | jaska | not my debian sid 6.00 atleast |
| 12:23.59 | jaska | nmap 6.00 that is |
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| 12:47.59 | GeneralAntilles | Who wrote the copy on the coding competition voting email. . . . |
| 12:48.04 | GeneralAntilles | s/Maemo.org/maemo.org/g |
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| 13:01.00 | khertan | GeneralAntilles, why ? |
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| 13:01.39 | vi__ | GeneralAntilles: Why? Is it poor journalism? |
| 13:03.08 | vi__ | WAIT. |
| 13:03.11 | vi__ | WTF. |
| 13:03.19 | vi__ | Flash 10 has FINALLY been released? |
| 13:03.21 | vi__ | DAFUQ? |
| 13:03.27 | vi__ | This cannot be... |
| 13:03.36 | vi__ | The prophecy has become! |
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| 13:07.24 | vi__ | ? |
| 13:07.27 | vi__ | anyone? |
| 13:07.35 | vi__ | even... |
| 13:08.55 | vi__ | wtf is this leaked flash 10 thing? |
| 13:09.04 | vi__ | :q |
| 13:10.05 | vi__ | someone answer me! |
| 13:14.45 | StyXman | vi__: __iv! |
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| 13:15.39 | vi__ | ~backwards StyXman |
| 13:15.49 | acidspunk | hello |
| 13:15.55 | vi__ | hello |
| 13:16.01 | vi__ | wtf is this flash 10 thing? |
| 13:16.29 | StyXman | for maemo? |
| 13:16.34 | acidspunk | uhm yeah... |
| 13:16.45 | vi__ | yes |
| 13:17.07 | StyXman | really? who uses flash, anyways |
| 13:17.13 | StyXman | battdrainer as few |
| 13:17.24 | vi__ | only a fool. |
| 13:17.30 | vi__ | but that is beside the point. |
| 13:17.50 | vi__ | After ALL this time, where TF did this flash 10 binary for the n900 appear from? |
| 13:18.02 | acidspunk | yeah 0.o |
| 13:18.10 | SpeedEvil | :-\ |
| 13:18.26 | acidspunk | and it seems to work well too |
| 13:20.46 | vi__ | Also, for the love of god in all that is holy...who put the format button right next to the eject button in windows? |
| 13:20.59 | acidspunk | lol |
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| 13:21.41 | Rqper | Great day, flash on N900 works as a charm :p |
| 13:22.00 | vi__ | Rqper: actually we are at flash 12 now. |
| 13:22.16 | Rqper | no problem , we poor users have patience |
| 13:22.20 | vi__ | But seriously, does no one know? |
| 13:22.28 | vi__ | WHERE DID THIS COME FROM????? |
| 13:23.02 | Rqper | I guess from an unsatisfied nokia employee that was supposed to support Maemo in a decent way |
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| 13:24.34 | vi__ | Rqper: What other goodies is he sitting on? A non broken SGX driver? |
| 13:24.49 | vi__ | The source code for calander app? |
| 13:25.01 | acidspunk | lawd |
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| 13:25.08 | vi__ | The secret incantation to roll-your-own /opt images? |
| 13:25.50 | Rqper | yeah, guess impossible and commercially infeasable are 2 differnt things |
| 13:28.00 | GeneralAntilles | vi__, khertan, because maemo.org is never capitalized. :P |
| 13:30.48 | Rqper | Maybe Oleg Beletski knows? |
| 13:30.56 | Rqper | he still on post at Espoo? |
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| 13:44.45 | vi__ | I would have thought flash 10 would have been trumpeted as the second coming of jesus. |
| 13:46.54 | ivgalvez | it's a leaked version so people that was aware of it were worried about publitizing it too much would draw someone's attention |
| 13:47.04 | ivgalvez | now it's fully public |
| 13:48.56 | ivgalvez | as we have already received the GO from Nokia to include any binary or closed source packages for Open Source projects in Nokia devices (i.e. CSSU or repackaging closed binaries/libraries/icons from Harmattan to Fremantle), the next thing we would like to do is to obtain permission frm Adobe to include this update to Flash in CSSU or repositories |
| 13:49.36 | ivgalvez | however, with bylaws, code competition voting system, elections and migration, we haven't had the time yet to start that negotiation |
| 13:50.50 | vi__ | ivgalvez: aaaaah. |
| 13:50.59 | vi__ | Soulds like you need to contact the PLF. |
| 13:51.07 | vi__ | ^sounds |
| 13:51.13 | ivgalvez | PLF? |
| 13:51.21 | vi__ | Penguin Liberation Front. |
| 13:51.29 | ivgalvez | hehe |
| 13:51.57 | vi__ | They run repos quite specifically for hosting legally 'dodgy' stuff that people don't want in the main line repos. |
| 13:52.26 | vi__ | They DGAF about nonsensical bullshit. |
| 13:52.47 | Rqper | ivgalves: do you expect websites to hang on Flash 10 due to seizure of mobile Flash development? Version nine was outdated pretty quickly... |
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| 13:53.07 | vi__ | Rqper: wut? |
| 13:53.08 | ivgalvez | well, we'd like first to exhaust any legal ways to do that |
| 13:53.18 | vi__ | ivgalvez: Of course ;) |
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| 13:53.50 | ivgalvez | I don't know what will do most of websites |
| 13:53.50 | vi__ | nudge nudge wink wink say no more buddy, I am going to my office to fill out a 27b/6 blind eye form ;) |
| 13:54.37 | ivgalvez | I assume that with Adobe discontinuig Flash on mobile and the rise of HTML5, most sites won't upgrade to newer versions of Flash, but move to HTML5 |
| 13:54.52 | vi__ | Thank fuck. |
| 13:54.58 | vi__ | FLash has been a long time dying. |
| 13:55.02 | Rqper | good thing for smooth transition between formats then |
| 13:55.14 | ivgalvez | unfortunately MicroB is also getting left behind |
| 13:55.24 | ivgalvez | we need to upgrade it's Gecko engine |
| 13:55.39 | ivgalvez | a rewrite of MicroB's UI would help |
| 13:55.42 | vi__ | And the interface. |
| 13:55.58 | ivgalvez | or wait for a faster Firefox with new IPC mechanism |
| 13:56.22 | vi__ | In fact replace gecko as the system wide render with somthing lighter and faster. |
| 13:56.26 | Rqper | don't dump swirl and virtuacursor plz |
| 13:56.27 | ivgalvez | all of them interesting projects |
| 13:56.40 | ivgalvez | I'd like to see swirl system wide |
| 13:56.49 | vi__ | and add middle click pasting! |
| 13:57.11 | ivgalvez | well, for sure I'm not going to code it ;) |
| 13:57.24 | ivgalvez | I barely have time to read all my mail |
| 13:57.36 | Rqper | yes, before Apple promotes swirl system wide as revolutionary way to control your mobile with one hand /finger where before 2 hands / fingers wer needed |
| 13:58.02 | ivgalvez | swirl is absoulute killer-feat |
| 13:58.09 | jacekowski | swirl? |
| 13:58.10 | Rqper | it is isn't it |
| 13:58.23 | jacekowski | what is it? |
| 13:58.30 | Rqper | jacekowski: runing circles to zoom in |
| 13:58.37 | Rqper | or out |
| 13:58.43 | jacekowski | hmm |
| 13:58.46 | vi__ | and cursor mode! |
| 13:58.47 | jacekowski | i've seen that somewhere |
| 13:58.49 | jacekowski | long time ago |
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| 13:58.56 | jacekowski | windows CE |
| 13:58.58 | jacekowski | on HTC |
| 13:59.05 | jacekowski | pretty useless feature |
| 13:59.07 | vi__ | also, a better xterm! |
| 13:59.32 | vi__ | That has middle click pasting! |
| 13:59.39 | jacekowski | how do you do middle click? |
| 13:59.55 | vi__ | xdotool+xbindkeys |
| 14:00.18 | vi__ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 14:00.41 | vi__ | vi-kbd is http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 14:00.47 | vi__ | ~vi-kbd is http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 14:00.47 | infobot | okay, vi__ |
| 14:00.54 | vi__ | ~vi-kbd |
| 14:00.55 | infobot | hmm... vi-kbd is http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 14:01.08 | ivgalvez | jacekowski, about your modified version of fmtx |
| 14:01.12 | jacekowski | yeah |
| 14:01.14 | jacekowski | what about it |
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| 14:01.26 | ivgalvez | you are only distributing it from your own site |
| 14:01.33 | ivgalvez | aren't you? |
| 14:01.48 | ivgalvez | have you considered to package it and upload it to repos? |
| 14:01.57 | jacekowski | it's against all the rules |
| 14:02.21 | jacekowski | first, .deb's are not supposed to modify any system files |
| 14:02.37 | ivgalvez | see busybox-`pwer |
| 14:02.44 | jacekowski | and two, that fmtxd isn't mine, it's nokia's and i've only modified binaries |
| 14:03.07 | jacekowski | and that's bit of a licencing issue |
| 14:03.18 | ivgalvez | you can distribute any Nokia binary as long as it's only for Open Source projects and for Nokia devices |
| 14:03.26 | ivgalvez | so you can do it without a hassle |
| 14:03.32 | jacekowski | ivgalvez: no you can't |
| 14:03.34 | ivgalvez | as long as you don't modify the license |
| 14:03.48 | jacekowski | that binary isn't GPLed in first place |
| 14:03.53 | ivgalvez | yes, we have received explicit permission from Nokia (from Qgil) |
| 14:04.02 | jacekowski | it's on quite strict licence |
| 14:04.07 | ivgalvez | it doesn't need to be GPL |
| 14:04.08 | vi__ | PLF! |
| 14:04.10 | jacekowski | + fact that it was reverse engineered |
| 14:04.27 | ivgalvez | we are already working on other RE stuff for CSSU |
| 14:04.28 | jacekowski | so it's reverse engineering as well, which is prohibited |
| 14:04.43 | ivgalvez | there is no problem with that, form Nokia side |
| 14:04.50 | jacekowski | if you want to package it, then that's ok with me |
| 14:04.58 | vi__ | Why can't you just make a deb with wget in the postinst. |
| 14:05.10 | ivgalvez | if copyright is not from Nokia, then it could bbe problematic |
| 14:05.19 | ivgalvez | but that is not the case |
| 14:05.35 | jacekowski | ivgalvez: if you want to package it yourself, you've got my blessing |
| 14:05.48 | jacekowski | i can even upload it to extras for you if you don't have an account |
| 14:06.01 | jacekowski | but i don't have n900 anymore |
| 14:06.13 | ivgalvez | haha, I'd like to have time to package a lot of things, I'm trying however to push other projects |
| 14:06.29 | ivgalvez | not having a N900 is problem indeed |
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| 14:07.03 | vi__ | ivgalvez: You said flash10 was a leaked version. Where was it leaked to? |
| 14:07.08 | vi__ | Who was it leaked to? |
| 14:07.13 | vi__ | what is the full story? |
| 14:07.37 | ivgalvez | jacekowski, what is the exact situation of your fmtxd? is it a RE clone of the original one? a modified binary? |
| 14:07.44 | jacekowski | yes |
| 14:07.59 | jacekowski | i've REed parts that dealt with frequency limitations and locking and power settings |
| 14:08.02 | ivgalvez | vi__ I don't really know the full story, someone found the binary on a development repo |
| 14:08.04 | jacekowski | and modified them |
| 14:08.29 | ivgalvez | that can be a candidate to enter CSSU |
| 14:09.28 | ivgalvez | see this as an example: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-im-vkbrenderer3/blobs/master/COPYING |
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| 14:11.00 | ivgalvez | if someone is interested in contribute the code and upload it to CSSU's gitorious, even if it doesn't enter CSSU-S for 'whatever' reason, it could be packaged and distributed more easily through CSSU-Devel |
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| 14:31.09 | Sazpaimon_ | flash 10 for maemo 5 actually released? |
| 14:31.11 | Sazpaimon_ | the hell? |
| 14:31.36 | Sazpaimon_ | what's the backstory here? |
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| 14:34.42 | vi__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.45 | vi__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.56 | vi__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.00 | vi__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.43 | vi__ | Hah, where are all those doubters and haterz now? |
| 14:35.53 | peetah | here |
| 14:36.02 | peetah | how do you know it is genuine |
| 14:36.24 | peetah | what tells you it does not contain a malware of some sort, or a phone-home gizmo |
| 14:36.52 | vi__ | peetah: are you shitting me? |
| 14:36.57 | peetah | nope |
| 14:37.13 | vi__ | do you honestly believe it would be worth the effort? |
| 14:37.35 | vi__ | to hax all the n900s that are left. |
| 14:37.38 | vi__ | boith of them. |
| 14:37.40 | ivgalvez | I haven't used it yet, but reports indicate it's genuine and OK |
| 14:37.49 | ivgalvez | from trusted members |
| 14:38.17 | vi__ | so what does flash 10 offer over flash 9 apart from a version string increment and a wad of licensing cash for adobe? |
| 14:38.46 | ivgalvez | some more shitty features that will blow your device to do really simple stuff |
| 14:38.53 | ivgalvez | but that most sites require |
| 14:41.26 | vi__ | so what is next to float up? |
| 14:41.31 | vi__ | Alien Dalvik? |
| 14:47.25 | beford | that would be nice |
| 14:48.26 | spoofy | vi__: I have fully working flash 10 by nokia |
| 14:48.30 | spoofy | for maemo 5 |
| 14:48.36 | spoofy | but.. This is secret :D |
| 14:49.34 | spoofy | even acceleration working.. |
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| 14:53.05 | spoofy | vi__: u must ask someone who had access to nokia developer repo... |
| 14:55.58 | Lava_Croft | i have a working Lauta device |
| 14:56.01 | Lava_Croft | its also secret |
| 14:56.12 | Lava_Croft | but i can speak of it on IRC and not provide any kind of proof! |
| 14:56.46 | spoofy | yeah right ;) |
| 14:59.08 | Lava_Croft | no offence, was merely joking |
| 14:59.14 | Lava_Croft | it might have come out a bit different than i intended:) |
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| 15:01.39 | spoofy | pinochio is our guy btw.. He even used my screenshots :D |
| 15:02.39 | beford | now... why nokia did not release this on time? |
| 15:02.56 | Lava_Croft | because nokia was and is a company with many, many heads |
| 15:04.41 | spoofy | The guy who release this package may be in trouble.. |
| 15:04.58 | Lava_Croft | i doubt it |
| 15:05.07 | Lava_Croft | if he even still works at nokia |
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| 15:11.19 | Sazpaimon_ | ivgalvez, so how long have people been hoarding it? |
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| 15:13.58 | ivgalvez | I don't know |
| 15:14.22 | freemangordon | about maybe 2-3 moths |
| 15:14.28 | freemangordon | *months |
| 15:15.26 | freemangordon | peetah: I didn't check the link on TMO, but .deb is signed with OVI key and is in OV/unreleased repo |
| 15:15.38 | freemangordon | that should be enough of a proof it is genuine |
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| 15:18.47 | ivgalvez | freemangordon, hi |
| 15:19.41 | ivgalvez | I've been talking with jacekowski a few lines up about his RE fmtxd |
| 15:20.52 | ivgalvez | to my understanding it might be a good candidate for CSSU inclussion, at least in Gitorious even if not packaged, for better tracking of the component |
| 15:20.58 | freemangordon | ivgalvez: yeah, i read the logs |
| 15:21.03 | ivgalvez | what do you think? |
| 15:21.16 | freemangordon | what is the benefit and what dows it fix? |
| 15:22.25 | ivgalvez | I don't know if it fixes any bug |
| 15:22.30 | ivgalvez | but unlocks some features |
| 15:22.43 | ivgalvez | about frequency limitations and locking and power settings |
| 15:23.38 | ivgalvez | being original binary + RE stuff, it shouldn't be dangerous |
| 15:23.56 | ivgalvez | and it's definitively not a critical component |
| 15:24.43 | ivgalvez | at least, if it enters CSSUs gitorious, maybe it could draw some attention from developers to receive further love and improvements |
| 15:24.50 | freemangordon | ivgalvez: I suspect frequency limits are because of the country regulations |
| 15:24.59 | ivgalvez | I gusee so |
| 15:25.03 | ivgalvez | I guess so |
| 15:25.16 | ivgalvez | so that feature might be optional |
| 15:25.20 | freemangordon | and power limits are already ok with KP (and kernel in CSSU to be) |
| 15:25.45 | ivgalvez | kernel in CSSU to be :) |
| 15:28.48 | Pali | modified fmtxd also enable fmtxd when charger is plugged |
| 15:29.07 | Pali | unmodified disable fmtxd when charger is plugged - I think this is bug |
| 15:32.35 | ivgalvez | interesting |
| 15:32.54 | ivgalvez | that makes fmtx unusable in the car most of the time |
| 15:33.10 | ivgalvez | usually you need to charge the phone while driving |
| 15:34.22 | Pali | http://jacekowski.org/Maemo/FMTXD |
| 15:34.43 | Pali | and http://jacekowski.org/Maemo/FMTXD1.3 |
| 15:36.11 | freemangordon | Pali: no, PR1.3 fmtxd does not disable fmtx when a charger is plugged |
| 15:36.53 | Pali | "It will keep running when headphones/usb is plugged in" |
| 15:37.06 | Pali | freemangordon, ok maybe this was fixed, but ^^^ not |
| 15:37.18 | freemangordon | Pali: I am using it in my car accasionaly, trust me on that |
| 15:37.27 | freemangordon | and I am using (dc8?) charger |
| 15:37.50 | freemangordon | which one is not? |
| 15:37.51 | Pali | and headphones? |
| 15:38.20 | freemangordon | NFC, I use BT handsfree |
| 15:38.30 | Pali | and usb cable (in pc suite/usb mass storage)? |
| 15:39.24 | freemangordon | don't know, I can check |
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| 15:45.21 | freemangordon | usb cable stops fmtx |
| 15:45.43 | freemangordon | (but only if connected to PC :D ) |
| 15:46.31 | freemangordon | while I don;t object to put that on gitorious, I don;t think it will ever enter even -devel |
| 15:47.41 | freemangordon | Pali: and "It will keep running when headphones/usb is plugged in" is a corner case maybe noone is hitting |
| 15:48.57 | ivgalvez | freemangordon: to me the most important thing at the moment is not to lose this code |
| 15:49.08 | freemangordon | ivgalvez: what code? |
| 15:49.12 | ivgalvez | as it's not in safe place |
| 15:49.18 | ivgalvez | the RE part |
| 15:49.26 | freemangordon | hmm, lemme check |
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| 15:50.27 | freemangordon | ivgalvez: it is just a binary |
| 15:50.32 | freemangordon | hex modified |
| 15:50.40 | ivgalvez | mmm a modified binary then |
| 15:50.43 | ivgalvez | ok |
| 15:51.47 | freemangordon | ivgalvez: though you'd better ask merlin1991 |
| 15:51.58 | ivgalvez | thanks |
| 15:52.06 | freemangordon | is afk for a while |
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| 16:30.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | (([2012-09-19 16:36:24] <peetah> what tells you it does not contain a malware of some sort, or a phone-home gizmo)) *I* tell you! |
| 16:32.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I know it's genuine (since I know the story) - but actually that doesn't eman it is not calling howe ;-P |
| 16:33.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: THIS version won't offer a wad of licensing cash for adobe ;-P |
| 16:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<beford> now... why nokia did not release this on time?)) see ^^^ |
| 16:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<Pali> "It will keep running when headphones/usb is plugged in")) only power level reduced while plugged in USB. Dunno if that applies to stock 1.3 as well |
| 16:38.53 | beford | what's the story about it DocScrutinizer05? if it can be shared of course |
| 16:40.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon already said it's been in OVI/unreleased repo. We eventually got to know the password |
| 16:40.23 | beford | hah |
| 16:40.29 | beford | was it 12345? :P |
| 16:40.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, how did you know that? |
| 16:43.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't eman it is not calling howe ;-P -??? o.O |
| 16:44.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/eman/mean/ |
| 16:44.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/howe/home/ |
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| 17:14.30 | Lava_Croft | i dont get the fuss over something shit as adobe flash anyway |
| 17:15.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | right on right on! |
| 17:16.11 | Lava_Croft | of course, its nice to have found it |
| 17:16.22 | Lava_Croft | seeing theres a 50+(?) page thread about it |
| 17:16.57 | Lava_Croft | I guess it would go too far to call it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory |
| 17:17.00 | Lava_Croft | :) |
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| 17:33.16 | rlinfati | please, fix the fremantle builder, has a problem with python , see https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2012-September/thread.html for "[extras-builds] [fremantle]: python2.7 2.7.3~rc2-2.1-maemo1 UNKNOWN" x 10^10^10 |
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| 17:40.20 | rlinfati | who is the fremantle builder admin ? |
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| 17:49.06 | freemangordon | rlinfati: WTF? debian/control file contains windoze style line endings!!! |
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| 17:52.30 | freemangordon | rlinfati: I don't see anything to be fixed in autobuilder (in that case of course :D ) |
| 17:52.55 | rlinfati | well, delete python from the queue ... |
| 17:54.21 | freemangordon | rlinfati: hmm, why is that ( not that I have powers to do it). Just upload a new version (if you are the maintainer) |
| 17:54.40 | rlinfati | i'm not the maintainer, |
| 17:55.01 | freemangordon | yes, I know, it is aapo :) |
| 17:55.27 | freemangordon | I made a post on TMO thread, I am sure he will fix it |
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| 18:03.44 | rlinfati | aap_ == aapo ? |
| 18:03.57 | freemangordon | NFC |
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| 21:02.21 | vi___ | flash 10 bitches! |
| 21:03.48 | Sicelo | :P |
| 21:05.29 | Sicelo | i'm on crappy gprs atm, otherwise i would scour the logs for this snippet of news. anyone able to give point to the start of the discussion that led to this flash-madnes :P |
| 21:07.19 | vi___ | Sicelo: no knows/is prepaired to tell the full story for fear of freprisals. |
| 21:07.46 | vi___ | for the disgruntled ex-nokia employee. |
| 21:08.31 | Sicelo | worships the man, lol. |
| 21:08.42 | vi___ | needless to say, go read the last 4 pages of the epic troll thread titled 'flash 10 when is ikt coming' |
| 21:08.48 | Sicelo | that said, i don't use flash at all on my N900 |
| 21:09.18 | vi___ | I know, flash can go eat a bag of dicks. |
| 21:09.36 | vi___ | but still, after all this time. |
| 21:09.56 | Sicelo | i've read the thread.. FMG seemed to suggest the conversation started here, but no one gave an exact point in the irc logs for that conversation |
| 21:10.04 | Sicelo | will scour anyway |
| 21:10.52 | vi___ | can you pm me the log adress if you find it? |
| 21:10.58 | Sicelo | :P |
| 21:10.59 | Sicelo | sure |
| 21:11.07 | vi___ | pm me at tmo. |
| 21:11.23 | vi___ | I am the only asswipe named vi_ |
| 21:12.47 | vi___ | how can I use linux to remove hiss from audio recordings from the command line? |
| 21:13.24 | vi___ | I have a pile of files I need to process and all that clicking in audacity will brake my balls. |
| 21:15.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | sox |
| 21:16.03 | vi___ | I am allready balls deep in the sox man page. |
| 21:16.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | wait until you notize you really need sox-filters manpage |
| 21:18.20 | vi___ | wished there was a thumb2 debian image. |
| 21:19.23 | Sicelo | <seems only FMG has more info about this flash business. he says something about 2-3 months... don't know where that comes from> |
| 21:20.35 | vi___ | you found irc log? |
| 21:21.11 | Sicelo | just today's so far.. and you were part of the conversation |
| 21:21.36 | Sicelo | unfortunately gprs is just bad tonight here |
| 21:21.46 | vi___ | italy? |
| 21:22.21 | Sicelo | swaziland, africa |
| 21:22.23 | Sicelo | :P |
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| 22:20.16 | myuu__ | the IR window of the n900 cant recieve signals right? |
| 22:23.40 | GGon | i got a raspi |
| 22:23.48 | GGon | and have no sd lying around heh |
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| 22:37.59 | vzapolskiy | hi guys, do you know, is there some easy way to restore/recreate pmo account? |
| 22:38.16 | vzapolskiy | for ex-nokian ;) |
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| 23:03.08 | merlin1991 | pmo? |
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| 23:15.05 | ShadowJK | myuu__; there is no receiver |
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| 23:16.27 | myuu__ | checked the forums for an answer, thanks though |
| 23:16.55 | myuu__ | really odd decision huh, but i guess a reciever isnt something you need. cant imagine it being expensive in any way |
| 23:24.48 | SpeedEvil | myuu__: no, it cannot. |
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| 23:30.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | IR receivers are amazingly expensive |
| 23:31.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or hard to get right |
| 23:31.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually, you don't want any |
| 23:32.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | what could you do with it, except of 'learning' IR-remote codes? |
| 23:32.32 | ShadowJK | amazingly expensive, as in, this transmitter cost less than a cent, and reciver is many cents? |
| 23:32.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 23:33.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | then they might not even be reflow-solderable |
| 23:33.31 | ShadowJK | "free" easter-egg :-) |
| 23:34.07 | ShadowJK | oh i've only seen them in pregnant to92, but i hvent looked |
| 23:34.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway IR receivers have serial output, that usually can't easily get decoded by UART |
| 23:34.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you would awake CPU all the time, on random bogus signals |
| 23:35.17 | ShadowJK | Also, we can modulate this transmitter at any frequency we want, whereas receivers are fixed frequency |
| 23:35.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | they need a certain volume, to have a decent lense diameter |
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| 23:35.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | no SMT |
| 23:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | and really, in which direction should that thing look?` |
| 23:36.32 | ShadowJK | I did the decoding in <2% cpu on a P133 once, receiver module hooked up to Line-in on soundboard :-) |
| 23:37.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but you'd awake CPU way too often for nuttin |
| 23:37.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | worst case 100 times / second |
| 23:37.42 | ShadowJK | would be interesting for purposes of remote control learning, whether 1x1 px from camera could be high enough in fps |
| 23:38.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I already elaborated on this, and I think it should be feasible, if only with updampling |
| 23:38.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | upSampling* |
| 23:38.43 | ShadowJK | but then the signal from a remote control is probably too weak to pass the ir filters even at devices-touching-eachother? |
| 23:39.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, it's weak |
| 23:39.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | it'll pass, sometimes |
| 23:39.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all you can check one N900 IRTX with another one |
| 23:40.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even with one N900 and two mirrors |
| 23:41.17 | myuu__ | yeah theres def zero use for it |
| 23:41.26 | myuu__ | on a modern phone |
| 23:42.11 | myuu__ | but shit why have IR then, save a fraction of a cent |
| 23:42.19 | myuu__ | was just curious though |
| 23:42.37 | myuu__ | have random IR device i wanted to play with |
| 23:43.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | more been puzzled why they didn't use IRTX for 9600bd console out |
| 23:44.10 | ShadowJK | myuu__; also the ir transmitter in n900 cant do data transfer |
| 23:44.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | hardcore unmodulated (carrier-less) on/off-IR transmission of every single bit |
| 23:44.36 | myuu__ | yeah i wasnt expecting it to ShadowJK |
| 23:44.48 | ShadowJK | well because there's electrical serial console under the battery? :D |
| 23:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it can bitbang :-) |
| 23:45.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | myuu__: anyway, you can DIY a IR receiver for ~1$ |
| 23:46.14 | ShadowJK | myuu__; basically there was a pin left over on the cpu and they just added a LED connected to it, and someone thought blue LEDs are stupid so they made it infrared |
| 23:46.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | just solder a photodiode to pin3 and pin4/GND of a 3.5mm jack |
| 23:47.10 | myuu__ | oh i think i have |
| 23:47.15 | myuu__ | both those things laying around |
| 23:47.27 | myuu__ | but i dont have a soldering gun, lost it on the move |
| 23:47.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | then "record" your IR signals via audio-in |
| 23:48.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | even better than usual IR receivers which always demodulate and thus you don't get to know the modulation/carrier freqency |
| 23:49.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang |
| 23:49.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lart ALS |
| 23:49.28 | infobot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at ALS |
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| 23:50.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | if that was a proper analog component instead of that "mini microcontroller with two light sensitive parts", you could do quite some amazng funky stuff with it |
| 23:51.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | rotation counter, for RC airplanes (and also real ones with a propeller) |
| 23:52.15 | ShadowJK | hm, what frequency is proximity sensor modulated at? |
| 23:52.26 | robbiethe1st | Hey, why can't you do funky stuff with microcontrollers? |
| 23:52.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | record audio form any reflective flexibe surface (like laser microphone on window glass) |
| 23:52.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: alegedly some 5Hz |
| 23:53.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: because thos one has hardwired/mask-programmed code |
| 23:53.43 | robbiethe1st | ah |
| 23:54.05 | robbiethe1st | Well, rip it out and plug in a ATMega! |
| 23:54.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 23:54.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't need to rip out ALS to add a ATmega on I2Cbus |
| 23:55.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I don't need nor want a ATmega, I talked about a fast ambient light sensor |
| 23:55.17 | robbiethe1st | aw |
| 23:57.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: if the LED power (or wavelength) was better visible by camera, I'd think you could calculate from bar pattern of cam sensor readout when during one frame LED went on or off |
| 23:58.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: basically reading out several million 1*1 sensors in series, on a rather stable bredictable clock |
| 23:59.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | predictable* |
| 23:59.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | but actually even 60fps should suffice iirc |