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| 00:12.43 | Skry | this SGX stuff is wicked |
| 00:14.44 | Skry | SDK grabs * from drivers/gpu/drm and adds it's own device add and remove mechanisms in drm.ko :S |
| 00:14.58 | Skry | I think that should be done within driver |
| 00:19.58 | GGon | DocScrutinizer05: i always stuck with ddwrt |
| 00:20.06 | GGon | but they are for the most part the same |
| 00:20.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just swearing how to configure that shit without losing internet via true active 192.168.1.1 router |
| 00:22.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | do they really need to run DHCP on that useless brick?, do they really think it has to assign most common LAN addr to itself, for configuration purposes? |
| 00:23.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, it seems it actually does (when you connect to switch via WAN port), but then it's not responding to that addr / on that port |
| 00:25.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I need a dedicated (probably not connected to internet) PC to run web config interface on this crap :-( |
| 00:26.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that it would differ in this regard from any arbitrary other brand of router |
| 00:41.28 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: DSL? |
| 00:41.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 00:42.10 | jon_y | I just skip the router and bridge it directly |
| 00:42.23 | jon_y | somehow a lot less crash prone |
| 00:42.39 | jon_y | no more waking up in the morning to find router needs rebooting |
| 00:43.03 | jon_y | obviously you'll need to handle the security implications yourself |
| 00:43.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I haven't seen router freeze during last say 5 years. But obviously your suggestion doesn't meet my requirements to serve ~10 devices, half of them via WLAN |
| 00:43.54 | jon_y | I see |
| 00:44.24 | jon_y | I put wlan/lan on another segment though |
| 00:44.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | otheriwse I'd appreciate much to have direct control of WAN traffic, rather than filtered reality by router |
| 00:44.54 | jon_y | so uncrashable PC goes in between modem and lan segments |
| 00:45.21 | jon_y | awesome to have 2 NICs |
| 00:45.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, and unusual on laptops |
| 00:45.50 | jon_y | oh, you have a laptop? |
| 00:46.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | just tested that docking station's NIC disables the one in Lenovo T500 |
| 00:46.20 | jon_y | I suppose a switch can do the same |
| 00:46.39 | jon_y | modem doesn't need to be IP addressable btw if in bridge mode |
| 00:46.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 00:46.51 | jon_y | just level 2 is workable |
| 00:47.24 | jon_y | I forgot the name of the bridge protocol, it's a level below IP |
| 00:47.45 | jon_y | or rather, it's the same, so it does not depend on IP |
| 00:47.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, ARP/MAC whatever |
| 00:48.06 | jon_y | yeah, in wireshark |
| 00:48.22 | jon_y | you can see it broadcast to ask for a concentrator on the segment |
| 00:48.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt any of my switches will do that |
| 00:48.57 | jon_y | dumb switches do MAC level, so its good |
| 00:49.11 | jon_y | *MAC level routing |
| 00:49.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | only has "smart switches" ;-) |
| 00:49.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka routers |
| 00:49.39 | jon_y | uh, they insist on IP level routing :( |
| 00:50.02 | jon_y | I suppose you can plug the modem and your laptop into the same lan side ports |
| 00:50.12 | jon_y | so they are on the same segment |
| 00:50.25 | jon_y | assuming your router doesn't isolate each dhcp client |
| 00:50.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually not |
| 00:50.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | there might however be issues with local loopback |
| 00:51.11 | jon_y | how so? |
| 00:51.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, right, modem has no IP, not even public one |
| 00:52.01 | jon_y | right, the auth is at the MAC level |
| 00:52.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | PPPoE I guess is the buzzword |
| 00:52.21 | jon_y | if your modem has a web configure page, it'll no longer be accessible |
| 00:52.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | it hasn't |
| 00:52.33 | jon_y | just reset it to factory if you need to reach it |
| 00:52.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 00:52.37 | jon_y | ok |
| 00:52.49 | jon_y | yeah, PPPoE |
| 00:53.01 | jon_y | awesome the N900 has a PPPoE client too |
| 00:53.45 | jon_y | iirc routers also crash if you have major interference about |
| 00:53.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually ponder to try and connect to friggin wrt54gl via WLAN and WPE or what's the name of this abomination |
| 00:53.58 | jon_y | 2,4GHz cordless phones |
| 00:54.13 | jon_y | WPE? |
| 00:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | this push-button pairing |
| 00:55.31 | jon_y | wifi protected setup? |
| 00:55.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 00:55.46 | jon_y | I just disable it, since it's known to be insecure |
| 00:56.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll do the same, just to flash ddwrt to the brick |
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| 00:56.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather like to use N900 WLAN than to diconnect my main PC from internet/192.168.1.1 router |
| 00:57.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc if it would even work to flash firmware via WLAN |
| 00:58.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is really soooooo :-S |
| 00:58.22 | jon_y | I had to use this weird setup mainly because of the dodgy router |
| 00:58.39 | jon_y | don't want to loose my irc/torrent connections if router needs rebooting |
| 00:59.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | all those routers are for noobs to do config from a windows-CD when unconfigured router already connected to DSL modem and PC |
| 01:00.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and thus PC has no internet connection but pretty easy access to rouer config page |
| 01:00.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | >:-( |
| 01:00.23 | jon_y | I never touch those ISP CDs |
| 01:00.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | me neither |
| 01:00.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | but the IP / DHCP problem remains the same |
| 01:01.16 | jon_y | in my setup, the PC is always on, so it stays on a fixed IP |
| 01:01.29 | jon_y | of course, you'll need to range limit your DHCP |
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| 01:02.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | the irony: when I connect the WAN port of the router-to-config to an arbitrary port of any of my switches, it receives valid IP 192.168.1.35 from my DHCP master, but of course the router-to-config doesn't allow access to config webpage via wlan port |
| 01:03.14 | jon_y | ethernet lan ftw :) |
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| 01:03.31 | jon_y | I never trusted wlan for anything important |
| 01:03.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | WAN |
| 01:03.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | not WLAN |
| 01:03.53 | jon_y | ok |
| 01:04.09 | jon_y | > config webpage via wlan port |
| 01:04.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops, my fault |
| 01:04.24 | jon_y | some config page don't allow over wlan changes |
| 01:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't allow access to config webpage via WAN port |
| 01:05.00 | jon_y | yeah, it's quite normal |
| 01:05.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 01:05.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it's sooooo annoying |
| 01:05.37 | jon_y | I've seen this issue before |
| 01:05.52 | jon_y | yeah, you'll need something downstream to change it |
| 01:06.34 | jon_y | I think the config page should have a exception page for it |
| 01:06.44 | jon_y | add IP exceptions |
| 01:06.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I need a downstream PC that happily asks the dead-end-router to share a DHCP lease, so I can talk to 'my master' on 192.168.1.1 |
| 01:08.00 | jon_y | you can actually dumb down the router by disabling it's DHCP and plugging everything into the lan side |
| 01:08.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | and since that's the most common IP addr after 127.0.0.1, of course there's NO way to keep internet connection while doing so |
| 01:08.18 | jon_y | I did this once for a router with a destroyed WAN port |
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| 01:08.28 | jon_y | struck by lightning |
| 01:09.19 | jon_y | iirc wrt64gl can be told to relay IP addresses and bridge WAN/LAN ports |
| 01:09.29 | jon_y | which might be what you're after |
| 01:09.41 | jon_y | *relay DHCP |
| 01:09.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, all pretty fine, but *I can't talk to that shit brick* |
| 01:10.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | since it's nailed to 192.168.1.1, the same adress my live router is using |
| 01:10.53 | jon_y | I'll just take it down and connect it to an un-networked PC to configure it |
| 01:11.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's exactly what I initially moaned about |
| 01:11.45 | jon_y | well, you need to do this once only |
| 01:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're sure about that? |
| 01:12.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I need to download further firmware, wikipages, whatnot |
| 01:12.27 | jon_y | yeah, just tell it to use 192.168.2.1 or tell it to relay |
| 01:12.30 | jon_y | hmm |
| 01:12.43 | jon_y | I don't normally do firmware flashing |
| 01:13.00 | jon_y | well, maybe you can change your DHCP config instead of the router? |
| 01:13.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I can't swap my whole network to 192.168.2.x on the fly - you know, 10 clients, not all of them I have even access to |
| 01:14.00 | jon_y | nope, no idea how to proceed without any disruptions |
| 01:14.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | several have even fixed IP |
| 01:14.58 | jon_y | a spare PC to do configuration would be pretty nice about now |
| 01:14.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | entries in /etc/hosts |
| 01:15.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 01:15.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | still would lack internet, but yes |
| 01:16.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | inspects CF-29 for presence of RJ-45 |
| 01:16.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | here we are |
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| 02:15.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, I probably had preferred to work and buy a fritzbox from the earned money ;-P |
| 02:16.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, on CF-29 I can switch between WLAN (internet) and 10BT-ethernet(config the wrt54gl) somewhat conveniently |
| 02:17.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it wasn't that much of a hassle as I expected |
| 02:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: thanks for heads-up :-) |
| 02:21.17 | jon_y | np |
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| 02:30.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | GGon: tell me you've read _all_ of first post on http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51486 |
| 02:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 02:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | a goddamn master thesis |
| 02:47.20 | GGon | lol |
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| 06:46.19 | jpinx | for the last dozen or so reboots the filesystem is being mounted read-only. How can I fix this? |
| 06:46.26 | jpinx | n900 maemo |
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| 08:24.46 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: your fault for not using 192.168.42.x for your real network :D |
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| 08:56.18 | kerio | ohai Pali |
| 08:56.44 | kerio | Pali: have you found things in kp52pre to fix? |
| 08:59.09 | Pali | what to fix? |
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| 09:58.24 | kerio | Pali: i don't know, something to change - if you think that prerelease is going to be the same as the next release, i'll install it right away |
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| 10:30.56 | dhbiker_ | shit ... |
| 10:31.05 | dhbiker_ | noone has 5800 or X6 |
| 10:31.20 | dhbiker_ | i think i'm forced to do that DO NOT DO stuff :( |
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| 10:45.08 | kerio | which thing? |
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| 10:48.55 | dhbiker_ | charging the battery somehow |
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| 10:52.38 | kerio | well, how are you going to do that? |
| 10:54.07 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: do bl-5js have builtin overcharge protection? |
| 10:56.07 | dhbiker_ | around 5V with limited amps .. somewhere around 500-800mA |
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| 10:56.15 | dhbiker_ | for short time |
| 10:57.10 | kerio | ohohohoh |
| 10:57.17 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: help |
| 10:57.25 | dhbiker_ | lol |
| 10:58.40 | kerio | dhbiker_: anyway, this is what happens if you overcharge a li-ion: http://youtu.be/SMy2_qNO2Y0 |
| 10:58.51 | dhbiker_ | i know what happens |
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| 11:00.30 | kerio | dhbiker_: anyway, iirc the flatbat recovery charges a lot less than that |
| 11:00.43 | kerio | and you only need slightly more than that |
| 11:01.12 | dhbiker_ | googles if any mobile store is open today in his city |
| 11:02.07 | kerio | "excuse me, do you have a nokia 5800 that i can borrow?" |
| 11:02.21 | dhbiker_ | exactly |
| 11:02.22 | dhbiker_ | :D |
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| 11:02.53 | dhbiker_ | ooh one is open but long walk from here |
| 11:02.54 | dhbiker_ | bah |
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| 11:04.18 | dhbiker_ | bbl hopefully they have any compatible phone *crosses fingers* |
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| 11:29.22 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Just sent an email to planet@maemo.org about a feed URL change. Dunno if it's still monitored, tho' |
| 11:29.44 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Ah, no. It goes to quim.gil@nokia.com |
| 11:32.11 | Jaffa | X-Fade: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12667 raised |
| 11:32.12 | povbot_ | 04Bug 12667: "Aggregate your blog" link points to planet@maemo.org which bounces |
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| 12:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: right, right, and right |
| 12:05.21 | kerio | right what? |
| 12:05.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | right, my fault, and all the other stuff |
| 12:05.50 | kerio | goes to look at the logs |
| 12:06.19 | kerio | oh right, the subnet |
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| 12:06.58 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: no, even with 80MB/s read and 74MB/s write you still have no idea whatsoever of the performances of random r/w |
| 12:07.12 | kerio | in fact, most of those "ultra" cards with epic sequential r/w suck *more* at random r/w |
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| 13:08.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | [GENERAL NOTICE] when updating to new cssu-t5.1 you *must* update operatornem widget _first_, and HAM will install useless catalogs to your list that you shouldn't touch (no, alas those catalogs are not even removable) |
| 13:09.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 13:09.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | [GENERAL NOTICE] when updating to new cssu-t5.1 you *must* update operator name widget _first_, and HAM will install useless catalogs to your list that you shouldn't touch (no, alas those catalogs are not even removable) |
| 13:10.22 | jacekowski | no need to repeat |
| 13:10.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, I as well coul've used s/xxx/yyy/ |
| 13:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I don't think the " <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: " prefix is really helpful here |
| 13:15.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders to switch to cssu-s |
| 13:17.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, just cherrypick upgrades from cssu and otherwise stay away from it completely - "quality is of paramount importance to CSSU" PFFF |
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| 13:43.32 | kerio | dhbiker: how did it go? |
| 13:45.21 | dhbiker | nobody has it :/ |
| 13:46.05 | dhbiker | one friend told me that he will take his 5230 an 5800 to me.. but he's not sure if they work or not |
| 13:46.16 | dhbiker | so hopefully i'll have better luck with that |
| 13:49.48 | kerio | well, at least now DocScrutinizer05 is here and he can tell you that feeding current to the battery yourself is a bad, bad, bad idea |
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| 13:52.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, I'm not here. I have to think about my future involvement in cssu |
| 13:56.12 | qwazix | I am trying to gather some info about settings usage for mocking up how the settings application should be. If you've got five minutes please answer some questions https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdvajZJRTR4RGJWLXNKcV9xWHpfaXc6MQ |
| 13:56.44 | qwazix | s/application/application in nemo/ |
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| 14:30.02 | nzerox | hey guys, i have ssu-stable installed, is it possible to update to testing? |
| 14:32.28 | Pali | nzerox, yes, just click on testing icon on wiki |
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| 14:32.49 | nzerox | Pali: thank you |
| 14:36.07 | nzerox | Pali: i have the stable installed, will that cause problems |
| 14:36.30 | Pali | I dont think |
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| 14:39.30 | nzerox | i'll try it, lets see what happens, lol |
| 14:44.41 | nzerox | poo maemo site is running so slow! |
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| 15:28.26 | Ikarus | hey, silly Q, anyone remember how to refuse Ovi terms and conditions but still enable to use the phone |
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| 15:31.11 | Ikarus | ah, simply reboot it :) |
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| 15:48.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cherry |
| 15:48.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~notmynokia |
| 15:48.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 15:49.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ikarus: if you already ran into that requester, you're probably just one boot away from sending this cherry SMS nevertheless |
| 15:49.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ikarus: please check wiki for cherry, and see: |
| 15:49.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 15:49.45 | infobot | jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 15:49.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | and package "notmynokia" |
| 15:50.03 | Ikarus | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, it sent it anyway, even though I did not agree to it |
| 15:50.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | and remove SIM until you finished all this |
| 15:50.16 | Ikarus | wonder if that means I can sue Nokia under EU privacy legislation |
| 15:50.30 | Ikarus | they have acquired private information of me without my permission |
| 15:50.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably you can. And I'd actually love you seeing to do it |
| 15:50.51 | Ikarus | yeah, it's just a burn of money though |
| 15:51.01 | Ikarus | at best I'll get my right and my cost of the process back |
| 15:51.01 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: to be honest i think the removal of cherry is enough |
| 15:51.07 | kerio | you don't really need notmynokia |
| 15:51.09 | Ikarus | and they'll get a slap on the wrist |
| 15:52.06 | Ikarus | there is no legal penalty in the Netherlands other then being told "Don't do that again" |
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| 15:52.12 | Ikarus | well, effectively |
| 15:52.35 | Ikarus | now I have to go retweak my whole N900 |
| 15:52.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the problem |
| 15:52.41 | Ikarus | was without one for uh, a year or so |
| 15:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey :-D |
| 15:53.03 | Ikarus | and every other phone felt so damned retarded |
| 15:53.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | welcome back to the club then! |
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| 15:53.10 | kerio | =D |
| 15:53.11 | Ikarus | even faster more modern phones |
| 15:53.16 | kerio | Ikarus: install CSSU |
| 15:53.21 | kerio | and then cssu-thumb! |
| 15:53.57 | Ikarus | kerio: planning to |
| 15:54.09 | Ikarus | but first I need to restore my backups and make it feel like home again |
| 15:54.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: while CSSU-Stable is actually recommended for everybody now (I wonder how long that will hold true), you should refrain from suggesting to indicriminately install cssu-thumb or even cssu-t |
| 15:54.55 | Ikarus | DocScrutinizer05: actually I was planning on trying cssu-thumb |
| 15:55.03 | Ikarus | I know quite well what I am doing |
| 15:55.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | fine |
| 15:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | no objections |
| 15:55.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | just make sure you know what you're doing, and keep BM backups ;-D |
| 15:55.45 | Ikarus | but yes, it is not for all at the moment |
| 15:55.48 | Ikarus | and yes |
| 15:56.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | right now cssu-thumb is kinda... messed up |
| 15:56.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | temprarily |
| 15:56.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon is working hard to sort things out |
| 15:57.05 | freemangordon | yep, everything but -mp think ig uploaded, I am installing the stuff on my -devel device to see if it will survive the reboot :D |
| 15:57.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 16:00.12 | Ikarus | I wonder if Nokia included any of the circuitry to use the in wire control on their headphones on the N900 |
| 16:03.07 | Ikarus | btw, any recommendations on mediaplayers, webbrowsers, etc with respect to the original applications and what got developed by the community to improve over it |
| 16:03.15 | kerio | Ikarus: openmediaplayer over mediaplayer |
| 16:03.31 | kerio | and there's a way to make everything open OMP instead of the default |
| 16:03.44 | kerio | (it still uses mafw/gstreamer and tracker) |
| 16:08.13 | Ikarus | oh and what is the state of calendar syncing ? |
| 16:08.43 | kerio | idk, i use isync |
| 16:09.44 | Ikarus | heh, I'm trying to got to sync to ics files and possibly caldav server, without using Google |
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| 16:14.48 | Ikarus | hrm, maemo.org is deadslow here |
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| 16:17.25 | qwazix | maemo.org is probably down |
| 16:17.34 | Ikarus | hmmm, openmediaplayer still doesn't allow for aspect ratio changes :( |
| 16:17.49 | Ikarus | which is annoying as alot of videos I stream have a badly encoded aspect ratio |
| 16:18.20 | Ikarus | guess I should create a little patch so it can optionally shove the aspect ratio fixer gstreamer plugin in |
| 16:18.46 | Ikarus | and the same for subtitles |
| 16:20.48 | kerio | Ikarus: aren't those cpu-only? |
| 16:21.35 | Ikarus | kerio: yes, which is slightly inefficient, but so much easier then trying to do multiple things on the DSP |
| 16:22.42 | kerio | well, i suppose that a linear transformation isn't *that* expensive |
| 16:23.09 | qwazix | Ikarus, there's a package for subtitle support for regular media player, Idk if it works on omp |
| 16:24.38 | Ikarus | hmmm |
| 16:24.50 | Ikarus | kerio: actually you can also do it at a different point in the pipeline |
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| 16:25.14 | Ikarus | by manipulating the X11 Xv buffer, which is accelerated on the GPU |
| 16:25.25 | Ikarus | and that comes at almost no cost |
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| 17:20.38 | dhbiker | kerio: seems like luck is with me... i didnt even know that my mother has C3 which has exactly the same battery xD |
| 17:20.48 | kerio | yay =D |
| 17:21.52 | dhbiker | at least something |
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| 17:40.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker: \o/ |
| 17:41.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker: snatch away her battery then! ;-P |
| 17:41.49 | dhbiker | ly my thought :D |
| 17:41.55 | dhbiker | exactly* |
| 17:42.29 | kerio | nah, charge yours |
| 17:42.33 | dhbiker | she has it for 4 months |
| 17:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | pro tip: mark one of both |
| 17:42.53 | dhbiker | i always do that DocScrutinizer05 ;) |
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| 18:47.11 | fredrinLap | running thumb update script... |
| 18:49.02 | kerio | fredrinLap: please report success and/or failure in #maemo-ssu |
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| 20:26.21 | pavi | Whats wrong with maemo.org website ? The CSS is not getting loaded ! Is it my specific issue or everyone else is facing the same? |
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| 20:26.53 | kerio | pavi: it's Elop's fault |
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| 20:30.42 | pavi | kerio, oops the server infrastructure is taken down reently by nokia ? |
| 20:30.50 | pavi | as promised :( |
| 20:30.53 | kerio | hahaha |
| 20:30.56 | kerio | no, it's not |
| 20:31.12 | pavi | ahh not yet ! |
| 20:33.43 | pavi | a small noob question , I have Qt SDK installed , if I make a QML app . How to get it working on maemo without qml viewer as a native one , do I defnitely need scratch box? |
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| 20:34.36 | pavi | I am talking of maemo in n900 |
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| 21:34.25 | RST38h | Meanwhile: http://gizmodo.com/5943563/insane-10-sim-card-hotspot-takes-a-valiant-stand-against-roaming |
| 21:35.38 | ShadowJK | awesome |
| 21:35.52 | ShadowJK | but is not having to swap sim cards worth the premium |
| 21:36.56 | ShadowJK | Well, and I guess you'd have to get the cards yourself too |
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| 22:19.19 | GGon | cygwin works pretty well from what i remembrer |
| 22:19.22 | GGon | sure wish it had apt :-/ |
| 22:20.55 | nox- | cygwin works, but its slow |
| 22:21.09 | nox- | on recent-ish hw an *ix vm is often faster |
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| 22:50.32 | GGon | nox-: yeah but then you have that separation |
| 22:50.42 | GGon | cygwin is good for keeping it windows :) |
| 22:51.06 | GGon | i don't know about slow. i'm using it now and it seems fair.. but i haven't done much with it other than bash, lynx, ssh etc |
| 22:51.09 | GGon | the low level stuff |
| 22:51.26 | nox- | *nod* |
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| 22:53.07 | Macer | i also learned disabling my broken n900 modem saves battery life :) |
| 22:53.16 | Macer | guess i will use it as a nit |
| 22:53.49 | Macer | almost makes me wish i could buy an enclosure to cover the ear hole |
| 22:54.29 | RST38h | You can buy enclosure for the whole thing, lubricated! |
| 22:54.35 | Macer | heh |
| 22:54.41 | RST38h | bing helpful |
| 22:54.43 | RST38h | being |
| 22:54.49 | Macer | i was just going to bondo it and paint it |
| 22:55.21 | kerio | Macer: huh... why? |
| 22:55.29 | Macer | kerio: i was joking |
| 22:55.32 | kerio | sip/skype over wifi |
| 22:55.42 | Macer | oh. yeah guess that's true |
| 22:55.54 | Macer | but skype is a power whore |
| 22:56.05 | RST38h | except that I have never managed to get decent SIP/Skype connectivity from N900 |
| 22:56.40 | Macer | skype seemed ok on it |
| 22:56.46 | Macer | just ate a ton of power |
| 22:57.00 | Macer | skype was selling n900s on their site a while back |
| 22:57.16 | RST38h | Not any more though =) |
| 22:57.34 | Macer | i'm taking the windows phone route tho.. unless someone revives maemo in new hardware |
| 22:57.37 | Macer | yeah |
| 22:57.48 | Macer | now you cant even get an n900 on amazon |
| 22:57.50 | Macer | :) |
| 22:59.32 | RST38h | ended up with Samsung Note |
| 22:59.49 | RST38h | And yes, Android does suck, although not as much as WinPho |
| 22:59.49 | Macer | fk ad-droid |
| 23:00.04 | beford | note 2? |
| 23:00.24 | Macer | i still have a tf101 im giving to my dad |
| 23:00.27 | Macer | just to get rid of |
| 23:00.33 | RST38h | Macer: COnsider it from this direction: it is either Android or suffering WP7 or joining the cargo cult of Jobs witnesses |
| 23:00.49 | Macer | i migrated all my email off google |
| 23:00.52 | RST38h | Macer: Doesn't the green trashcan look all more attractive now? =) |
| 23:01.03 | RST38h | beford: 1 |
| 23:01.06 | Macer | who cares lol. wp isnt bad |
| 23:01.14 | Macer | i like it |
| 23:01.17 | RST38h | beford: the at&t variety, with the buttons. |
| 23:01.24 | RST38h | Macer: ffffffffffuuuuuuuuu |
| 23:01.32 | Macer | hahaha... seriously |
| 23:01.35 | RST38h | Macer: Makes me want to throw up |
| 23:01.40 | Macer | it is surprisingly good ;) |
| 23:01.51 | RST38h | Macer: Just updated lumia today, almost threw up |
| 23:02.27 | Macer | updated? |
| 23:02.42 | Macer | they release 7.8? |
| 23:03.58 | GGon | the update is fine |
| 23:04.02 | GGon | the update was for their broken wifi |
| 23:04.10 | GGon | that kept screwing up when it would reconnect after a couple of times |
| 23:04.26 | GGon | amongst other minor fixes... at least it wasn't lke my tf101 |
| 23:04.30 | RST38h | Macer: they are not telling you what the update is about |
| 23:04.34 | RST38h | so no idea |
| 23:04.44 | GGon | whose broken kernel (that didn't get fixed for over a month) would randomly reboot the tablet |
| 23:04.47 | GGon | omg that was horrible |
| 23:05.39 | GGon | and asus wouldn't admit there was a problem |
| 23:05.42 | GGon | i even went so far as to rma it |
| 23:05.44 | GGon | get a new one |
| 23:05.47 | GGon | with the same problem! |
| 23:05.54 | GGon | i will never buy anything asus ever again |
| 23:06.10 | GGon | RST38h: but the lumia update was for flakey wifi |
| 23:06.15 | GGon | you didn't have problems when it would reconnect? :) |
| 23:06.27 | nox- | i guess you call that banana software... |
| 23:06.28 | GGon | where stuff would timeout for a while then kick in.. or just not work at all? |
| 23:06.56 | GGon | after they fixed that with the update the lumia has been awesome. i love it. still wish i had maemo. but hey.. it is what it is |
| 23:06.59 | GGon | blame obama |
| 23:10.57 | beford | I dont like the wp7 ui |
| 23:13.41 | GGon | i do |
| 23:13.45 | GGon | CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 ITOP 1.7.16(0.262/5/3) 2012-07-20 22:55 i686 Cygwin |
| 23:14.07 | GGon | i don't mind the tiling system too much.. although i wish they'd release wp7.8 for the lumia so i can use the smaller multi columned tiles |
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| 23:14.21 | GGon | i also wish more stuff rotated.. but coming from maemo.. i guess i'm used to that :-P |
| 23:14.33 | GGon | like the tile screen |
| 23:24.05 | Gh0sty | its #maemo here not #wp |
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