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| 00:06.04 | ShadowJK | Pali: bme might start at 550mA, but it goes up eventually (unless dc adapter is crap, unless battery bsi reading is crap) |
| 00:07.48 | ShadowJK | Pali: bme set 100mA termination in original firmware, after original firmware, around PR1.3, a kernel change was made which increased minimum power consumption while on charger by 60mA, thus the bump by 50mA in charge script. This kernel change is reverted in power kernel, so there I actually use 50 myself. |
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| 00:31.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, ang guess what's eating those 60mA! musb-hdrc staing active while on charger, since.. duh, it might turn out it's a USB host that only took like 3h to start ENUM (don't ask me why such host has D+/- short though) |
| 00:31.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/ang/and/ |
| 00:34.53 | ShadowJK | iirc it was for some weird charging usb hub |
| 00:35.05 | ShadowJK | that doesnt exist in real life |
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| 02:25.59 | rvs1st | any n900 coming out??? |
| 02:26.05 | robbiethe1st | ...? |
| 02:26.07 | rvs1st | some kinda version |
| 02:26.36 | robbiethe1st | Uh, why would you think that? |
| 02:27.47 | robbiethe1st | N900 was/is awesome. And would own windows phone if it had a bit of polish... which means Nokia can't release it(their loyalty being bought by Microsoft) |
| 02:49.20 | rvs1st | whaaaaaat |
| 02:49.56 | rvs1st | crazies if they only knew how much tech ppl would love to tweak there phones |
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| 02:52.55 | Skry | well, there is still a lot of tweaking to be done with n900, so get tweaking :) |
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| 03:00.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
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| 03:19.49 | jpinx | cheap-shit chinese batteries :S |
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| 03:20.15 | jpinx | good for only about 10 recharges |
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| 03:38.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: hm? |
| 03:39.05 | jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: bought chinese 1320ma/h battery here and it was great for a month ;) |
| 03:39.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 03:39.52 | jpinx | but it was only approx $7 |
| 03:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | impurities in chemistry and poor sealing can both cause that |
| 03:41.13 | jpinx | yea - it's a chinese make -- not likely to be good quality - I knew it when I bought it - but it was great while it lasted ( she said ;) ) haha |
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| 03:53.21 | SpeedEvil | also using rice paper as the seperator. |
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| 04:13.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey, that's almost too smart for el Qaida |
| 04:15.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | one stupid asshole gets some money from them, hires some american actors to do a terribly stupid and disgusting film insulting "the prophet", publishes this video in nternet, shouts I'm an Aegypt and I'm a coptic christian, and disappears |
| 04:18.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet some "imam" told him that's a special form of jihad and Alah will forgive him and appreciate his fighting against the western devil |
| 04:20.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | then for all those muslims who still don't get it, some other el Qaida supporters spread the news that american gvmt's censorship accknowledged that bullshit video |
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| 05:13.05 | jpinx | SpeedEvil: anything is possible.... it's chinese ;) |
| 05:18.52 | jpinx | what's the cl to get an accurate reading of battery charge state? |
| 05:37.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | *accurate* takes much more than one cmdline |
| 05:38.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | if you meant 'detailed' then lshal|grep batter |
| 05:40.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | if you really need accurate then the cmdline is even shorter, but takes quite some preparation work: bq27200.sh |
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| 06:39.58 | stardiviner | How to add extra-testing and extra-devel repository from command line instead of manually write from package manager ? (I want to do this in script.) |
| 06:41.07 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, sorry I don't know, I added them into /etc/apt/sources.list and use apt-get update :) |
| 06:41.30 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: that's it. |
| 06:42.02 | freemangordon | stardiviner: you'd better put a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 06:42.08 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, no, I think they are not the same |
| 06:42.15 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 06:42.30 | freemangordon | HAM uses its own repo settings |
| 06:43.08 | stardiviner | freemangordon: I found one file hilden-applicatio-manager in sources.list.d/ |
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| 06:43.11 | LaoLang_cool | I see a file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/: hildon-application-manger.list |
| 06:43.17 | LaoLang_cool | Dont' know if HAM use it |
| 06:43.31 | freemangordon | I know, but it gets overwritten whe you start HAM |
| 06:43.33 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: HAM use it, |
| 06:43.59 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, as freemangordon said, maybe it don't do what you want :( |
| 06:44.00 | stardiviner | freemangordon: can not write from script ? |
| 06:44.20 | freemangordon | stardiviner: what? |
| 06:44.35 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: But I do not want to always manually add it after a flash, (even flash is not happen offen) |
| 06:44.55 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, I tried to put a file containing some repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, but it doesn't take effect when apt-get update, what else am I missing? |
| 06:45.11 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, I understand you, it's annoying to do that |
| 06:45.16 | LaoLang_cool | sorry I can't help you |
| 06:45.27 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: NFC, that is what I use here when I need something from extras-devel |
| 06:45.47 | freemangordon | it should work |
| 06:45.54 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, NFC? |
| 06:45.59 | freemangordon | ~nfc |
| 06:46.00 | infobot | well, nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications |
| 06:46.00 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: I checked that file hildon-application-manager.list, It has lines which I added repos manualy in HAM. I think I can do it in script. |
| 06:46.26 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, the file should be rename to foo.list? |
| 06:46.32 | freemangordon | yep |
| 06:46.34 | LaoLang_cool | with a suffix .list |
| 06:46.37 | LaoLang_cool | oh, I got it |
| 06:46.38 | freemangordon | yep ;) |
| 06:47.21 | freemangordon | stardiviner: makes no sense to mess up with hildon-application-manager.list as HAM will overwrite it |
| 06:47.51 | freemangordon | stardiviner: you'd better use microb to browse to repository.maemo.org and click on "install repo" links |
| 06:48.44 | freemangordon | or keep a links on your desktop, 2 clicks and you're in |
| 06:49.16 | stardiviner | freemangordon: it is not as good as do it in script. Because I want to a lot of actions in one script, remove useless default games package, install new packages, and do gconf etc. |
| 06:49.53 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, you should use apt-get for that |
| 06:50.00 | LaoLang_cool | I use it, and it works |
| 06:50.12 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: of course, apt-get |
| 06:51.01 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: but apt-get can not add repository, so I want to echo "repo address" >> hildon-app..-manager.list file |
| 06:51.19 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, apt-get purge for removing application, and apt-get install afor installing application |
| 06:51.22 | freemangordon | stardiviner: you don't need to touch hildon-app..-manager.list |
| 06:51.38 | freemangordon | stardiviner.list will do the same |
| 06:51.48 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, echo "repo address" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/myapt.list |
| 06:51.54 | freemangordon | if put in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 06:52.03 | freemangordon | yep |
| 06:52.35 | stardiviner | freemangordon: LaoLang_cool the file exists before I append new repos to it, HAM use it by default. |
| 06:52.47 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, I know it would good if you could add repo address into HAM, but before you find a solution for it, you can try the way of apt-get |
| 06:52.55 | freemangordon | stardiviner: well, it is up to you after all :) |
| 06:53.19 | stardiviner | LaoLang_cool: how to use apt-get to add repository ? |
| 06:53.19 | freemangordon | HAm does not use it, it creates it |
| 06:53.49 | freemangordon | stardiviner: on the side not - why do you reflash ocasianly? |
| 06:53.55 | LaoLang_cool | stardiviner, echo "your repo address" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stardivnerlist |
| 06:53.56 | freemangordon | *note |
| 06:54.14 | freemangordon | "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/stardivner.list" |
| 06:54.30 | freemangordon | .list is importatnt |
| 06:54.39 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, a typo ;p |
| 06:54.44 | LaoLang_cool | thank you for correction |
| 06:54.50 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 06:54.54 | stardiviner | freemangordon: some times, some packages need to run dpkg --configure -a , but this command can not fix the problem , then I can not figure out solution |
| 06:55.08 | freemangordon | so you reflash? |
| 06:55.27 | LaoLang_cool | My question is, how to invoke contacts app to show a particular contact's detail from cli? |
| 06:56.05 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: did you look at dbus phonebook api in wiki? |
| 06:56.13 | LaoLang_cool | something like: osso-abook -g LaoLang_cool |
| 06:56.27 | freemangordon | no, it should be dbus call |
| 06:56.29 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, could you point me to the link please? |
| 06:56.37 | LaoLang_cool | dbus is ok |
| 06:56.39 | freemangordon | hmm, lemme google for you :P |
| 06:57.09 | freemangordon | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control |
| 06:57.10 | LaoLang_cool | thanks, actually I don't know much technoledge :) |
| 06:57.20 | LaoLang_cool | oh, I have checked that link |
| 06:57.29 | freemangordon | nothing in there? |
| 06:57.30 | LaoLang_cool | nothing relative to what I want |
| 06:57.46 | LaoLang_cool | I will check if it has updated since last time I read it |
| 06:58.05 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: you may want to check what hildon-desktop does when you type while on desktop |
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| 06:58.41 | freemangordon | though i am not sure if it is h-d or h-h |
| 06:59.00 | LaoLang_cool | what is h-d or h-h? |
| 06:59.12 | freemangordon | hildon-desktop hildon-home |
| 06:59.14 | LaoLang_cool | I don't know how to check it on desktop |
| 06:59.24 | freemangordon | naah, check in the sources :) |
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| 06:59.49 | LaoLang_cool | oh! |
| 07:00.02 | LaoLang_cool | I am just a normal user... ok, give it up :( |
| 07:00.22 | freemangordon | why?!? |
| 07:01.12 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, I don't know where is the source, and how to look for and read it ... |
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| 07:08.30 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: your dbus interface if com.nokia.osso_addressbook |
| 07:08.41 | freemangordon | s/if/is/ |
| 07:09.25 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, so? |
| 07:09.32 | LaoLang_cool | I don't know about it :( |
| 07:09.49 | LaoLang_cool | Could you give me an example please? |
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| 07:13.21 | freemangordon | dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.osso_addressbook /com/nokia/osso_addressbook com.nokia.osso_addressbook.search_append string:"a" |
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| 07:22.08 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, cool, thank you! |
| 07:22.20 | LaoLang_cool | I think it should be added to the wiki |
| 07:22.51 | freemangordon | well, add it :P |
| 07:23.08 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, how to append a <return>? |
| 07:23.16 | freemangordon | what? |
| 07:23.21 | LaoLang_cool | I want sth like: "LaoLang_cool\r" |
| 07:23.22 | freemangordon | \n? |
| 07:23.33 | freemangordon | but but |
| 07:23.48 | freemangordon | you cannot have "\r" on the address book |
| 07:23.52 | LaoLang_cool | it will append "\n"... |
| 07:24.09 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, I want to simulate a click action |
| 07:24.15 | freemangordon | aah :) |
| 07:24.18 | freemangordon | no idea |
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| 07:25.07 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, any other command except com.nokia.osso_addressbook.search_append? |
| 07:25.29 | freemangordon | open_group, though I don;t know what it does |
| 07:26.13 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, just this one? because com.nokia.osso_addressbook.search_append is for appending string, I want to do a refresh search, no appending |
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| 07:26.26 | LaoLang_cool | I mean I want to do a new serach |
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| 07:28.08 | freemangordon | don't know |
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| 07:32.20 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, anyway, thank you, appending also does very helpful! |
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| 07:35.30 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: you also may want to chaeck how is an contact added to desktop |
| 07:35.56 | freemangordon | goes afk |
| 07:38.04 | LaoLang_cool | what is afk? |
| 07:38.09 | LaoLang_cool | ~afk |
| 07:38.09 | infobot | [afk] Away From Keyboard |
| 07:38.18 | LaoLang_cool | oh, enjoy! |
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| 08:33.31 | ShadowJK | jpinx; I have a "Japod" from dx.com, it's pretty darn good (1400+ mAh) |
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| 08:35.50 | kerio | hm, the akku polarcell is 1520mAh |
| 08:36.10 | kerio | that's neat |
| 08:37.08 | kerio | it costs 13€ though |
| 08:37.31 | ShadowJK | and when you say "is" do you mean 1520 is writtre |
| 08:37.36 | ShadowJK | written on it? |
| 08:40.10 | deepy | polarcell? |
| 08:40.18 | kerio | no, when i say "is" i mean 1500 is written on it and dr_frost_dk tested it for 1520 |
| 08:41.13 | kerio | deepy: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 |
| 08:41.30 | kerio | deepy: also, wtf do you want, you don't have a n900 yet! |
| 08:45.20 | kerio | ShadowJK: so... yeah :) |
| 08:46.00 | deepy | I have an extremly powerful phone! |
| 08:46.15 | deepy | I can probably emulate two N900s with it |
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| 08:46.22 | deepy | For the full two hours that the battery holds! |
| 08:46.38 | kerio | which phone is this? |
| 08:47.41 | deepy | It's an LG |
| 08:48.09 | kerio | bitch please |
| 08:48.16 | deepy | 4X HD |
| 08:48.33 | deepy | I really like it, except three things. the battery life, the call volume and the battery life |
| 08:48.52 | kerio | fun fact: googling "lg 4x" gives you the graph of log(4*x) first |
| 08:48.59 | jaska | :D |
| 08:49.22 | deepy | that graph shows the battery usage pretty well |
| 08:49.27 | kerio | deepy: it's a quad-core 1.5ghz |
| 08:49.37 | kerio | you can probably emulate 9 or 10 n900s |
| 08:49.39 | deepy | at first it's like invincible, but then it escalates quickly and the last 5% work out well |
| 08:49.46 | deepy | kerio: not with that battery no |
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| 08:50.16 | vi_ | It runs android, |
| 08:50.26 | deepy | No it crawls android. |
| 08:50.33 | vi_ | It does not fully support the CPU powersaving modes. |
| 08:50.38 | kerio | hehe |
| 08:50.42 | kerio | that's silly |
| 08:50.47 | vi_ | While leaking your private data everywhere like an incontinent dog. |
| 08:51.04 | deepy | vi_: get me a N900 at a price I can afford here in Ireland and I will change |
| 08:51.05 | kerio | deepy: how much does the battery last, in standby? |
| 08:51.16 | vi_ | deepy: North or south? |
| 08:51.16 | deepy | in standby I am not sure, I tend to use my phone during the day |
| 08:51.19 | kerio | and don't think the n900's battery lasts a lot |
| 08:51.20 | deepy | Dublin |
| 08:51.29 | deepy | But I need to charge it when I get home after work |
| 08:52.11 | deepy | I charged it before a party that was on a Friday, on saturday morning it was out of battery |
| 08:52.26 | deepy | 20m call-time and three texts |
| 08:52.51 | kerio | that's a bit silly, yeah |
| 08:52.56 | vi_ | deepy: I do not know about the ROI but you should be able to pick up a good N900 for around £1500 maximum. |
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| 08:53.04 | kerio | LOL |
| 08:53.13 | vi_ | deepy: Sounds like you have some crap that is wasting your battery life. |
| 08:53.20 | vi_ | No phone is that bad. |
| 08:53.34 | deepy | vi_: to give you some insight |
| 08:53.38 | kerio | deepy: i paid 150€ for an almost-new n900 before the summer |
| 08:53.56 | vi_ | does android have widgets? |
| 08:53.57 | deepy | I had the same battery life when the phone was new and had just my SIM card and contacts on it |
| 08:54.08 | deepy | Yes, but I have the same widgets as my Nexus One has |
| 08:54.12 | deepy | LITERALLY the same, I moved the APK over |
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| 08:54.49 | vi_ | I do not know what to suggest. YOu see, us N900 users are notorious android haterz. |
| 08:54.54 | Luke-Jr | lol |
| 08:55.01 | kerio | vi_: what about nitdroid? |
| 08:55.17 | vi_ | nitroid can go blow a goats asshole. |
| 08:55.24 | kerio | k :c |
| 08:55.39 | vi_ | The shit is responsible for more than 50% of the broken n900 spam on TMO. |
| 08:55.48 | deepy | vi_: they're only selling them in strange places like Mullingar or Meath |
| 08:56.22 | kerio | deepy: buy it on the internets |
| 08:56.23 | vi_ | deepy: My ROI geography is broken. |
| 08:56.31 | kerio | then it doesn't matter where you are or where the n900 is |
| 08:56.36 | kerio | as long as you're still in the EU |
| 08:56.44 | vi_ | But if you can visually inspect it first AND get a good price, that would be ideal. |
| 08:57.44 | deepy | I just offered 110 on one, bah |
| 08:58.11 | kerio | deepy: buy it with paypal, immediately ask for your money back claiming you got a brick in the mail |
| 08:58.40 | Arkenoi | really does not understand why one could want to run nitdroid except just for hack value |
| 08:58.42 | kerio | not too immediately, though |
| 08:59.02 | jacekowski | paypal sucks |
| 08:59.16 | kerio | Arkenoi: to register with that weird unofficial whatsapp client |
| 08:59.44 | Luke-Jr | O.o |
| 09:00.14 | deepy | kerio: hehe, I have a friend starting at paypal :) |
| 09:00.26 | Luke-Jr | deepy: FAIL |
| 09:00.32 | Luke-Jr | paypal is obsolete :P |
| 09:00.36 | deepy | Yes but they pay |
| 09:00.39 | vi_ | Paypal are scum |
| 09:00.45 | vi_ | UTTER SCUM. |
| 09:00.50 | deepy | That's my point, he'll have a jolly good time there! |
| 09:00.51 | Luke-Jr | deepy: until they go out of business |
| 09:00.52 | kerio | it's like working at a bank, except that you're not regulated |
| 09:00.52 | kerio | it's brilliant |
| 09:01.37 | vi_ | Except for all the poor fucks they steal money from. |
| 09:01.38 | deepy | Luke-Jr: we're talking months here |
| 09:02.04 | Luke-Jr | deepy: does he even have a position where he can try to save paypal? |
| 09:02.15 | deepy | He has a position where he can be one of the people who do their job right |
| 09:02.19 | kerio | deepy: are you going to sell your LG? |
| 09:02.23 | Luke-Jr | so no |
| 09:02.29 | deepy | kerio: are you interested in buying it? |
| 09:02.33 | kerio | hell naw |
| 09:02.35 | deepy | I'm thinking about cloning my SIM |
| 09:02.35 | kerio | well |
| 09:02.43 | kerio | i'll buy it for 2€ |
| 09:02.44 | deepy | Be a rebel and have two phones |
| 09:02.47 | vi_ | deepy: o0 |
| 09:03.09 | kerio | it's not "are you interested in buying it?", it's "how much would you pay for it?" |
| 09:03.14 | vi_ | Once you have cloned your sim, be sure to wwrite a white paper on how you circumvented the 3G sim security. |
| 09:03.43 | deepy | What do you mean 3G SIM :)? |
| 09:03.56 | vi_ | You will be as famouse as korek. |
| 09:03.58 | Arkenoi | owns all my kodez (imsi, Ki) |
| 09:04.01 | deepy | There's a reason I still have an old one |
| 09:04.11 | kerio | it's not about sim vs usim |
| 09:04.23 | deepy | But no, I'm probably just going to swap it around |
| 09:04.31 | vi_ | Maybe that is why your battery is so shit. |
| 09:04.32 | Arkenoi | dumped it long time ago from old SIM card and never care to get replacements from my operator again |
| 09:04.49 | vi_ | It has to step up to 18v just to warm up the valve tubes. |
| 09:04.59 | kerio | hahaha |
| 09:05.03 | deepy | vi_: don't pin this one me! I've done hte exact same things with TWO separate phones in TWO separate countries with TWO separate carriers! |
| 09:05.14 | tadzik | aren't most of today's smartphones Very Bad at battery life? |
| 09:05.17 | kerio | was the sim different too? |
| 09:05.27 | kerio | tadzik: the n900 is a today's smartphone |
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| 09:05.32 | kerio | and it doesn't have a bad battery life, really |
| 09:05.37 | vi_ | tadzik: No, just poorly programmned operating systems. |
| 09:05.38 | tadzik | no it's not, it's 3 years old smartphone |
| 09:06.00 | vi_ | N900 is the ONLY smartphone ever made it to production. |
| 09:06.01 | tadzik | I don't say it can't compete |
| 09:06.01 | kerio | tadzik: it's the latest, in its run |
| 09:06.11 | tadzik | is it even produced yet? |
| 09:06.25 | kerio | it fucking should |
| 09:06.32 | tadzik | *sigh*, well |
| 09:06.45 | vi_ | Comparing an N900 with android is like compairing an TI82 with an HP49G+ |
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| 09:07.02 | tadzik | you're comparing hardware to the OS |
| 09:07.05 | kerio | vi_: the TI82 is an overpriced piece of crap though |
| 09:07.16 | vi_ | the TI82 is obsolete. |
| 09:07.24 | kerio | even brand new, it was overpriced |
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| 09:09.57 | vi_ | There was some bro on reddit jerkin off about how he had 'programmned' his android phone to say shit to him when he got to work and to txt his wife. |
| 09:10.26 | vi_ | When he got to work his phone would say 'I have txt your wife to let her know you have arrived at work safely'. |
| 09:10.32 | kerio | haha |
| 09:10.40 | vi_ | as kerio would say |
| 09:10.44 | vi_ | b* please. |
| 09:10.55 | vi_ | THe N900 can do that out of the box. |
| 09:11.00 | vi_ | In chinese if you want. |
| 09:11.02 | kerio | yeah, that's like a dbus message and a call to speex |
| 09:11.10 | kerio | well no, you need speex for voice synth |
| 09:11.14 | kerio | it's not preinstalled |
| 09:11.19 | vi_ | speex, festival, espeak. Take you pick. |
| 09:11.28 | deepy | how's python in the N900? |
| 09:11.36 | vi_ | deepy: Full on. |
| 09:11.37 | kerio | deepy: 2.5-ish |
| 09:11.44 | deepy | hnnngg |
| 09:12.04 | tadzik | heh, yeah |
| 09:12.08 | kerio | but i suppose that the armel debian binary package would work |
| 09:12.28 | kerio | deepy: mind the optification though |
| 09:12.34 | kerio | ~optification |
| 09:12.35 | infobot | optification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR, http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3" |
| 09:12.50 | deepy | This guy seemed so legit at first too! I was about to buy it! http://www.adverts.ie/mobile-phones/nokia-n900-sim-free/2013442?notification=35fa66562a16a44037b0033ff949a5f0-1347025060#comment_9831127 |
| 09:12.57 | kerio | the python release in extras(-devel) uses bindmounts to make everything work fine though |
| 09:12.59 | deepy | err, I meant to paste teh comment but whatever |
| 09:12.59 | vi_ | I have had it in my mind to write a script that would automate txt'ing mrs vi__ |
| 09:13.00 | kerio | without clogging the rootfs |
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| 09:13.27 | kerio | deepy: hehe |
| 09:13.28 | vi_ | It would generate a sentence from some pre defined lists. |
| 09:13.35 | deepy | Look at that ad, can you spot the 3 things that made me run the opposite direction? |
| 09:13.39 | vi_ | To say something nice. |
| 09:14.09 | vi_ | And message it out within a 2 hour window on some random days. |
| 09:14.25 | kerio | haha |
| 09:14.38 | deepy | That seems prone to fail, it'll say the same thing twice on the exact same time two days in a row |
| 09:15.17 | vi_ | She is a girl. She will not notice. |
| 09:15.28 | vi_ | She will be too busy thinking about unicorns and cakes. |
| 09:15.48 | deepy | That's like saying: "Oh, he's a fireman, he won't notice if his house is on fire." |
| 09:16.11 | vi_ | That doesnt make any sense. |
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| 09:16.21 | kerio | vi_: *you* don't make any sense! |
| 09:16.36 | deepy | Neither does Poe if you read it backwards |
| 09:16.42 | vi_ | eop? |
| 09:17.06 | deepy | I read that as end of pony |
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| 09:55.06 | deepy | @Deepy:dont look time and date becouse i forgoten change in the camera if want see come here please |
| 09:55.09 | deepy | Sounds so legit :/ |
| 09:56.58 | tadzik | tries to unclick the selection |
| 10:00.35 | kerio | deepy: damn you for using colors |
| 10:00.36 | kerio | and LOL |
| 10:00.42 | deepy | Pure accident! |
| 10:00.44 | kerio | yeah, buy it from somewhere else |
| 10:00.56 | kerio | hold on, what does "come here" mean? |
| 10:00.56 | deepy | also it bothers the heck out of me too :P |
| 10:01.03 | deepy | it means that other city which is way out |
| 10:01.49 | kerio | i wouldn't go |
| 10:02.25 | deepy | If I lived there I would've gone and checked it out |
| 10:02.33 | deepy | and noted it to be a waste of time |
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| 10:05.23 | kerio | deepy: you'll get killed |
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| 10:47.45 | deepy | kerio: no no, there's only nice people |
| 10:48.01 | deepy | Deepy placed offer 14/09/2012 9:57 am (1 hour ago): €110 Offered, If we can meet in Dublin on Saturday/Sunday |
| 10:48.05 | deepy | Ju5tin says 14/09/2012 10:57 am (50 minutes ago): pm@Deepy |
| 10:48.06 | deepy | YES! |
| 10:48.10 | kerio | :D |
| 10:49.07 | kerio | yay |
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| 13:39.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ux äp5c 1pi |
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| 13:53.44 | jpinx | does the nopp run ok with charger plugged in but battery out? |
| 13:54.00 | jpinx | ...n900 I mean.. |
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| 13:57.18 | kerio | jpinx: nope |
| 13:57.19 | kerio | not even close |
| 13:57.37 | jpinx | ok .. thanks |
| 13:58.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: see my thread on tmo though |
| 13:59.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: it's feasible (as long as you don't need modem) |
| 13:59.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | something with "hotswap" in title iirc |
| 14:00.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I ran N900 without battery for several hours |
| 14:00.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | for booting though you *need* battery |
| 14:00.45 | jpinx | ok DocScrutinizer05 . Thanks. I'll check that out |
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| 14:19.59 | kerio | offline mode and low brightness are fine, i suppose |
| 14:21.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, and "keep backlight on" |
| 14:21.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | any brightness |
| 14:22.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | as soon as screen blanks, charger chip detects end of charging and powers down system ungracefully |
| 14:25.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57734 |
| 14:25.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: ^^^ |
| 14:26.55 | jpinx | thanks DocScrutinizer05 :) |
| 14:27.08 | jpinx | lastlogs.... |
| 14:29.07 | jpinx | sleepytime here. Back to solutions tomorrow... |
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| 14:33.21 | vi_ | are chinese capable of making anything that is not utter shit? |
| 14:35.10 | kerio | vi_: yes |
| 14:35.17 | kerio | they're probably not willing, though |
| 14:35.44 | Hurrian | meh, they just go with the flow. |
| 14:36.11 | Hurrian | the Xiaomi phones are actually decent, shame all the OEMs going for that kind of thing go with Android |
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| 15:07.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | "I'm here to defend my prophet Mohammed. I'm angry for the Amaricans haven't blocked that movie on internet" -- Oh yeah, sure |
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| 15:08.02 | GeneralAntilles | Don't worry, the Cairo embassy you tried to burn down agrees with you. |
| 15:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-P |
| 15:08.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | what a bunch of morons |
| 15:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait until they find out that the allegedly copt christian actually been a muslim sent by el Qaida to produce this crap movie to mobilze the islamic world against the west |
| 15:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | whom will the lynch THEN? |
| 15:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | they* |
| 15:14.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | and if it finally turns out the servers where the movie got hosted are in turkey or even saudi-arabia, where no US gvmt has any means to "block that movie", will they demand for US troops to raid this country and blow up the building where the servers are located? |
| 15:15.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | (not that US gvmt has any means or legitimation to block that movie when it was hosted on US located servers either) |
| 15:15.49 | kerio | ECHAN |
| 15:16.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | not really, if you wanna shout OT please do |
| 15:16.53 | kerio | OT! |
| 15:17.20 | GeneralAntilles | The outrage is probably largely manufactured. |
| 15:17.46 | kerio | of course it is |
| 15:18.03 | kerio | religion is just a way to exert control over a populace |
| 15:18.13 | kerio | or, well, a group of people |
| 15:19.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | now the mob atacking German and GB embassy, fine! They really do all to make us love them |
| 15:28.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | evaluates nuking some embasy of an islamic country because their government hasn't managed to stop morons stomping on and incinerating German flag |
| 15:29.50 | kerio | what's the settings app called? |
| 15:31.27 | kerio | oh wtf |
| 15:31.36 | kerio | killing hildon-home *once* caused a reboot |
| 15:31.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | heh? |
| 15:32.04 | kerio | to be fair i also made the settings app crash multiple times |
| 15:32.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 15:32.16 | kerio | i assume it's the same? |
| 15:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno |
| 15:32.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the status menu probably is |
| 15:32.57 | kerio | oh no, it's controlpanel |
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| 15:36.59 | khertan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.01 | khertan_ | grr |
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| 17:24.13 | dhbiker | hi there |
| 17:24.14 | dhbiker | err |
| 17:24.31 | dhbiker | how do i charge bricked phone ? |
| 17:24.43 | dhbiker | i *think* its bricked since its bootlooping |
| 17:25.07 | freemangordon | if it is booting then it is not bricked |
| 17:25.35 | freemangordon | when it reboots? |
| 17:25.55 | freemangordon | and what phone? |
| 17:26.04 | dhbiker | actually freezes |
| 17:26.08 | dhbiker | on nokia screen |
| 17:26.15 | dhbiker | n900 |
| 17:26.24 | freemangordon | hmm, which kernel? |
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| 17:26.35 | dhbiker | power 51 |
| 17:26.48 | freemangordon | did you rty to reflash it? |
| 17:26.51 | freemangordon | rootfs |
| 17:27.12 | dhbiker | hm |
| 17:27.28 | dhbiker | what if the battery is too low in charge |
| 17:27.38 | freemangordon | you'll only lose your software, data will be ok |
| 17:28.00 | freemangordon | I think it uses usb to power the device while flashing |
| 17:28.05 | freemangordon | maght be wrong |
| 17:28.09 | freemangordon | *might |
| 17:28.10 | dhbiker | guess not |
| 17:28.29 | freemangordon | hmm |
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| 17:28.56 | freemangordon | well, it won't become worse that now :) |
| 17:29.05 | dhbiker | lol |
| 17:29.14 | dhbiker | i somehow need to charge up the battery |
| 17:29.18 | dhbiker | :/ |
| 17:29.33 | freemangordon | but what is the point if it does not boot? |
| 17:30.19 | freemangordon | btw if it is stuck on nokia logo, it means there is not kernel |
| 17:30.22 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 17:30.36 | freemangordon | you may want to flash kernel zImage only |
| 17:30.57 | dhbiker | it worked before this reboot |
| 17:31.08 | dhbiker | thats what bothers me |
| 17:31.25 | freemangordon | so you just reboot and BAM |
| 17:31.33 | dhbiker | yup |
| 17:31.54 | freemangordon | did you install anything since the last reboot? |
| 17:31.59 | freemangordon | esp kernel |
| 17:32.06 | dhbiker | nope |
| 17:32.11 | dhbiker | installed kernel |
| 17:32.13 | dhbiker | rebooted |
| 17:32.17 | dhbiker | worked fine |
| 17:32.47 | freemangordon | how did you reboot? |
| 17:33.13 | dhbiker | shut down via switch |
| 17:33.17 | dhbiker | and then turn on |
| 17:34.17 | freemangordon | did you try to remove the battery? |
| 17:34.23 | dhbiker | yes |
| 17:34.27 | freemangordon | fuck |
| 17:34.51 | freemangordon | well, flash seems iminent |
| 17:34.55 | dhbiker | probably dead battery |
| 17:35.00 | freemangordon | naah |
| 17:35.06 | kerio | dhbiker: if it's bootlooping and the battery is too low, YOU GOT A BRICK SON |
| 17:35.08 | freemangordon | you won't have nokia logo |
| 17:35.26 | dhbiker | kerio: i thought so |
| 17:35.27 | freemangordon | kerio: don't scare him |
| 17:35.32 | freemangordon | bullshit |
| 17:35.46 | kerio | well, it's an easy unbrick - you need to charge your battery |
| 17:35.50 | freemangordon | he have a dead battery, not a brick |
| 17:35.58 | freemangordon | *has |
| 17:36.02 | dhbiker | kerio: problem is *HOW* |
| 17:36.18 | freemangordon | dhbiker: any spare battery? |
| 17:36.24 | dhbiker | no :( |
| 17:36.31 | freemangordon | wait, you say it freezes on Nokia logo? |
| 17:36.37 | dhbiker | yes |
| 17:36.41 | kerio | dhbiker: do you know someone with a 5800? |
| 17:36.49 | freemangordon | or asha |
| 17:37.00 | freemangordon | kerio: but it is not the batter |
| 17:37.04 | freemangordon | y |
| 17:37.09 | dhbiker | hm |
| 17:37.20 | dhbiker | i think i know someone with 5800 |
| 17:37.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: please don't tell nonsense about flashing |
| 17:37.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a well known fact that flashing depends on charged battery |
| 17:37.48 | freemangordon | seems like corrupted nand/missing kernel/missing kernel modules |
| 17:38.07 | dhbiker | i can restore the backup via backupmenu |
| 17:38.10 | dhbiker | thats not a problem |
| 17:38.19 | dhbiker | problem is charging the battery somehow |
| 17:38.30 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: won;t argue, I am not an experienced flasher |
| 17:39.06 | freemangordon | but even 10-15 percent charge should be more than enough |
| 17:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker: will device show pesistent USB logo in upper right corner of NOKIA screen when you hold 'u' key while plugging in WALLCHARGER to powered down N900? |
| 17:39.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: no |
| 17:39.37 | dhbiker | yes its present |
| 17:39.44 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ok |
| 17:39.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | then your battery is fine for flashing |
| 17:40.04 | dhbiker | it shows up fpr few secs |
| 17:40.05 | dhbiker | though |
| 17:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | stop bootlooping though, it only depletes battery |
| 17:40.12 | dhbiker | for* |
| 17:40.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, it has to STAY |
| 17:40.26 | dhbiker | ok then no |
| 17:40.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | when it vanishes, this means battery too low |
| 17:40.39 | dhbiker | bah :( |
| 17:40.50 | freemangordon | find someone with 5800 or asha |
| 17:41.05 | freemangordon | (or n900 :P ) |
| 17:41.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | or get external charger |
| 17:42.58 | dhbiker | k tnx for now |
| 17:43.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 17:43.11 | dhbiker | ill try to contact someone somehow xD |
| 17:43.25 | kerio | if you want to buy an external charger, buy the nokia one |
| 17:43.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds expensive |
| 17:43.46 | dhbiker | agree |
| 17:46.47 | kerio | but it's cute! |
| 17:48.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather get a used N900 for 80 bucks, than a new nokia charger for 40 |
| 17:48.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
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| 18:00.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: according to some report in the internets DT-33 charger is a tad too smart. It stops charging at max 1000mAh |
| 18:00.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | hard to believe |
| 18:01.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | but allegedly info straight from Nokia care |
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| 19:37.16 | Woody14619 | Love you all... I'm off IRC for the weekend... Will be back Monday. Contact Council via mail if something explodes. :) |
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| 20:29.37 | teotwaki_ | DocScrutinizer05: I'd rather get an n950 for 40 bucks ;) |
| 20:30.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | won't charge BL-5J |
| 20:30.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it's obviously a useless device ;-P |
| 20:34.32 | ZogG_laptop | teotwaki_: n950 fr 40$? |
| 20:34.35 | ZogG_laptop | good luck |
| 20:43.05 | kerio | i'd buy it |
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| 21:53.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | sandisk Extreme Pro: 16GB, 80MB/s read 74MB/s write |
| 21:54.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | even *if* this card sucks terribly on random r/w it still has to be kinda above par? |
| 21:55.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | NB MB not Mb |
| 21:57.01 | GGon | uhm |
| 21:57.08 | GGon | the cssu update requires nokia pc suite? |
| 21:57.11 | GGon | what's up with that? |
| 21:57.55 | tadzik | :) |
| 21:58.05 | tadzik | did you see GENERAL NOTICE? |
| 21:58.09 | GGon | no |
| 21:58.25 | tadzik | it says "update operator name widget first" |
| 21:58.48 | GGon | uhm |
| 21:59.11 | GGon | ok |
| 22:00.31 | GGon | i don't really even use the N900 anymore since hte modem died |
| 22:00.33 | GGon | lol |
| 22:00.38 | GGon | i don't even know why i'm going through the trouble |
| 22:01.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe because you love maemo and N900 so much? |
| 22:01.31 | GGon | yeah :'( |
| 22:01.34 | GGon | wish the damn thing worked |
| 22:01.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | (btw N900 are kinda el-cheapo now, when you can find any on fleabay) |
| 22:01.57 | GGon | not cheap enough to buy a 3rd one |
| 22:02.00 | kerio | yeah, 150€ for a tiny linux computer is really not a lot |
| 22:02.16 | kerio | especially a tiny linux computer merged with what is, after all, still a fairly decent phone |
| 22:02.32 | GGon | oh |
| 22:02.33 | GGon | yeah they are |
| 22:02.35 | GGon | wow what happened? |
| 22:02.40 | GGon | people just trying to dump them now? :) |
| 22:02.47 | GGon | last i checked they were like $300 |
| 22:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | other fools spend 600 bucks every year, just to have the right digit after the "iPhone" brandname |
| 22:02.54 | kerio | well, at some point in the past nokia hired a new CEO... |
| 22:03.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather happily spend 150 bucks every 3 months |
| 22:03.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a new used N900 |
| 22:03.32 | GGon | but i have att now |
| 22:03.35 | GGon | no 3G :-/ |
| 22:03.40 | kerio | mind you, 150€ was for a *really* new used phone |
| 22:03.56 | GGon | heh |
| 22:03.57 | kerio | GGon: see, your problem is that you chose not to be in europe |
| 22:04.09 | GGon | kerio: hahaha! |
| 22:04.12 | GGon | i didn't choose that ;) |
| 22:04.42 | GGon | not enough battery power? |
| 22:04.48 | GGon | and my meter is at like 75%? :) |
| 22:04.49 | GGon | wth? |
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| 22:05.31 | kerio | srsly though, what's with the US of A? |
| 22:06.00 | GGon | who knows |
| 22:06.01 | kerio | awful mobile infrastructure, data caps on home connections, mitt romney... |
| 22:06.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | (75%) yeah there's some weird battery check in HAM, for system updates |
| 22:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 22:06.17 | GGon | kerio: obama |
| 22:06.25 | GGon | kerio: canada is worse with their cell networks ;) |
| 22:06.42 | GGon | i think it's an America thing |
| 22:06.42 | kerio | canada is also worse with their prime minister, or so i heard |
| 22:07.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | blame Canada! |
| 22:07.06 | GGon | we have a socialist govt nowadays |
| 22:07.12 | GGon | USA.. the new Greece |
| 22:07.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | PFFF |
| 22:07.29 | kerio | anyway, phones in general are fscked in the US |
| 22:07.37 | kerio | hell, you guys pay to *receive* stuff |
| 22:07.41 | GGon | i want a lumia 920 |
| 22:07.43 | GGon | hides |
| 22:08.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlike Greece, the USA never had any scruple to print as many $$$$ as they need |
| 22:08.29 | kerio | (stuff = phone calls and SMSes) |
| 22:08.29 | GGon | uhm |
| 22:08.42 | GGon | DocScrutinizer05: you might want to do some research on money printing and try again ;) |
| 22:08.50 | kerio | bitcoins are the future anyway |
| 22:09.00 | GGon | lol |
| 22:09.10 | kerio | no, seriously |
| 22:09.17 | kerio | it's a fucking brilliant concept |
| 22:09.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | GGon: I just have to listen to Grenspan |
| 22:09.24 | GGon | so is communism :) |
| 22:09.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | or what's his name |
| 22:09.32 | kerio | yes it is :c |
| 22:09.35 | GGon | bernake? |
| 22:09.39 | GGon | or something like that? |
| 22:10.38 | GGon | n900 rebooting! |
| 22:10.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | he even blamed Europe not to do the same |
| 22:10.42 | GGon | with new cssu!! wooo! |
| 22:10.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, now we do |
| 22:10.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 22:10.51 | kerio | wooo! |
| 22:10.59 | kerio | phone is still busted though |
| 22:11.08 | GGon | :-/ |
| 22:11.13 | GGon | just stab and twist huh? |
| 22:11.16 | kerio | *pat pat* |
| 22:11.53 | GGon | at least i can use it to irc from the toilet or something :-P |
| 22:12.23 | tadzik | I watched a Star Trek episode on mine today, debian maintainers apparently screwed up mplayer recently |
| 22:12.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | so almost as good as N810, which I used like 4h every day, for almost 2 yeras |
| 22:12.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | years even |
| 22:12.54 | GGon | is there a way to disable the modem altogether? |
| 22:13.03 | GGon | ie: not make it try to access the sim and go into like NIT mode or something? |
| 22:13.08 | GGon | (CSSU feature request?) |
| 22:13.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, called tabölet mode |
| 22:13.18 | GGon | really?? |
| 22:13.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes really |
| 22:13.24 | GGon | where is that?? |
| 22:13.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | app in extras-* |
| 22:13.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | links into power button menu |
| 22:13.56 | GGon | no way |
| 22:13.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | next to airplane mode |
| 22:14.06 | GGon | wow wtf. this whole time? |
| 22:14.08 | GGon | lol |
| 22:14.25 | GGon | my battery was probably getting murdered by it continuing to try to access the sim |
| 22:14.30 | GGon | does it rid me of that no sim icon? |
| 22:14.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 22:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 22:14.48 | GGon | win! |
| 22:14.50 | kerio | yeah |
| 22:14.54 | kerio | it doesn't get rid of the space, though |
| 22:14.55 | kerio | iirc |
| 22:15.19 | GGon | but it does actually disable the modem right? |
| 22:15.19 | GGon | heh |
| 22:15.25 | kerio | yeah, it does |
| 22:15.28 | GGon | it's not just some hackery to disable warning msgs? |
| 22:15.30 | GGon | nice |
| 22:15.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | will try hard to do so, yes |
| 22:15.54 | kerio | afaik it's a weird function that's already there, there's just not a menu entry for it? |
| 22:15.57 | GGon | awesome |
| 22:16.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 22:16.14 | kerio | #maemo saves the day again! ^_^ |
| 22:16.17 | GGon | just finished installing it :) |
| 22:16.20 | GGon | kerio: haha |
| 22:16.30 | GGon | yeah the battery was probably gettin gmurdered by the sim requests by the modem |
| 22:16.41 | GGon | THE BROKEN MODEM |
| 22:16.43 | GGon | ugh |
| 22:16.45 | kerio | haha |
| 22:16.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | constant reboots of modem might kill battery, yes |
| 22:16.52 | kerio | i wonder if it can be repaired |
| 22:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 22:17.04 | GGon | it would be cheaper to just buy a new one |
| 22:17.05 | kerio | i imagine the modem chip is kinda hard to come buy |
| 22:17.08 | kerio | *by |
| 22:17.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 22:17.44 | GGon | ok |
| 22:17.48 | GGon | not seeing a "tablet mode" |
| 22:17.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | better? |
| 22:17.58 | GGon | when i get the power button menu |
| 22:18.03 | kerio | GGon: killall... something |
| 22:18.06 | kerio | or reboot, i guess |
| 22:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you need a H-D restart (aka boot) |
| 22:18.15 | GGon | blah |
| 22:18.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | killall hildon-desktop |
| 22:18.36 | GGon | might as well use a windows phone :) |
| 22:18.43 | GGon | hides again |
| 22:18.50 | GGon | lumia 920 has build in induction charging |
| 22:18.55 | kerio | really? :O |
| 22:18.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | do "killall hildon-desktop" on a windows phone! ;-P |
| 22:19.02 | kerio | that would be seriously neat |
| 22:19.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yes, it has |
| 22:19.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Qi standard |
| 22:19.38 | kerio | goddammit why am i still plugging cords |
| 22:20.01 | kerio | hm, i wonder if it could be done on the n900 |
| 22:20.03 | GGon | Additionally, the Lumia 920 supports built-in wireless charging and near-field communications. Nokia will offer its own charging plate, but design company Fatboywill sell a wireless charging pillow as well. Virgin Atlantic plans to install wireless charging pads in its Heathrow Airport lounge, and Coffee Bean will install wireless charging pads in its shops. JBL will sell a speaker dock called PowerUp, which charges the phone wirelessly and pairs through NFC. |
| 22:20.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and Nokia pushing so every publish shitbooth gets a charger integrated |
| 22:20.08 | kerio | how think is the phone part? |
| 22:20.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | public* |
| 22:20.55 | GGon | well |
| 22:21.00 | GGon | i'm surprised apple didn't do it first ;) |
| 22:21.10 | GGon | like MS with their keyboard smartpad for their win8 tablet |
| 22:21.15 | GGon | apple is slipping |
| 22:21.36 | GGon | ok |
| 22:21.40 | GGon | i am still not seeing this menu option |
| 22:21.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I recently heard Jobs took the reality distortion field with him. Or was it the other way round? |
| 22:22.02 | GGon | all i see is offline mode |
| 22:22.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, weird |
| 22:22.19 | kerio | GGon: :s |
| 22:22.35 | kerio | to be fair sometimes i used to not get it, on my old n900 |
| 22:22.40 | kerio | ...when the modem crashed for some reason |
| 22:22.47 | kerio | OH THE IRONY |
| 22:22.55 | GGon | lol |
| 22:23.04 | GGon | well i don't get the menu option to disable the modem in the power button menu |
| 22:23.10 | GGon | is there somewhere else i can activate the tablet mode? |
| 22:23.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~phonecontrol |
| 22:23.11 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control |
| 22:23.55 | GGon | uhm |
| 22:24.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Disable_cellular_radio |
| 22:25.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.phone.SSC /com/nokia/phone/SSC com.nokia.phone.SSC.set_radio boolean:false |
| 22:25.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | for your convenience |
| 22:26.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might want to add --print-reply |
| 22:31.26 | kerio | GGon: don't leave us hanging like this! |
| 22:31.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | GGon: if you want to go for it, there are for sure more smart ways to tweak system in a way so it never even powers up the modem |
| 22:32.31 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: like what? |
| 22:32.37 | kerio | (also, what's 05?) |
| 22:33.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | alas I'm sill looking for the O'Reilly book 'maemo unleashed' to answer this question in detail |
| 22:33.26 | kerio | hahah |
| 22:33.28 | kerio | i'd buy it |
| 22:33.32 | kerio | for 2€ shipped |
| 22:33.57 | Macer | hm |
| 22:34.03 | Macer | ok still no menu :) |
| 22:34.09 | kerio | 3€ for maemo unleashed + harmattan unshackled, in a bundle |
| 22:34.19 | Macer | sigh |
| 22:34.26 | Macer | hope the modem is off heh |
| 22:34.33 | kerio | actually, i'd even pay about tree fiddy for it |
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| 22:34.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | Macer: check dmesg/syslog |
| 22:35.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: I'll tell you what to pay if we ever run into each other |
| 22:36.30 | Macer | i dont even think i have syslog running |
| 22:36.34 | Macer | meh |
| 22:36.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | I bet you oew me 2 beer already |
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| 22:36.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | owe |
| 22:38.32 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hrmpf :c |
| 22:38.44 | kerio | so you're just doing it for the booze? D: |
| 22:38.45 | Macer | need to eat |
| 22:38.48 | Macer | later |
| 22:39.55 | GGon | damn opera is awesome |
| 22:39.59 | kerio | meh, keep the tally, i'll pay for it |
| 22:40.04 | GGon | at least full opera is |
| 22:40.14 | GGon | mobile/mini not so much |
| 22:40.15 | kerio | eventually |
| 22:40.31 | kerio | GGon: meh, opera mobile on the n900 is kinda useless |
| 22:40.36 | GGon | well.. i guess mobile/mini opera isn't too bad |
| 22:40.48 | GGon | but is lacking a "copy link" option for links |
| 22:40.49 | kerio | i only keep it there to be able to say "i've got three browsers on my phone" |
| 22:41.08 | GGon | on my windows and linux boxes opera is all i've been using |
| 22:41.13 | GGon | it's chrome sans google |
| 22:41.31 | kerio | GGon: oh, so you're one of *those* |
| 22:41.39 | GGon | those? |
| 22:41.48 | kerio | looks at GGon with disgust |
| 22:42.05 | GGon | an...... opera user? :) |
| 22:42.14 | kerio | yeah |
| 22:42.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 22:42.46 | GGon | well... ie sucks.. ff sucks almost as bad as ie.. chrome is google sucking up every bit of information on you they legally can... |
| 22:42.50 | GGon | so opera is all that is left :) |
| 22:42.59 | GGon | unless you get other off brand ones |
| 22:43.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Konqueror FTW |
| 22:43.32 | GGon | rekonq wasn't too bad but has a lot of issues still |
| 22:43.36 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: oh you |
| 22:43.36 | GGon | DocScrutinizer51: heh |
| 22:44.38 | GGon | safari was/is shit |
| 22:45.12 | GGon | i'm a big fan of never having redundant stuff... so i only allow 1 browser on anything |
| 22:45.19 | Skry | rekonq was a positive surprise |
| 22:45.33 | GGon | Skry: it still needs work ;) |
| 22:45.59 | GGon | but renders better than konqueror nonetheless... i haven't used it in quite a while tho.. just like opera |
| 22:46.03 | GGon | opera can rival chrome easily |
| 22:46.33 | Skry | actually I didnt notice anything that needs work in it, some minor rendering issues and few crashes but nothing that big |
| 22:46.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | open windows[number(tabs)]: system-monitor; Konsole[2(10)]; Konqueror[25]; Konversation[1(20)]; Ding; Kwrite[7(10)]; FireFox[3]; Okular[3]; Yast; LibreOffice |
| 22:47.20 | GGon | why the firefox? :) |
| 22:47.27 | GGon | YOU HAVE KONQUEROR! |
| 22:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | some BS crap needs FF |
| 22:47.36 | GGon | Skry: i haven't used it in a long time |
| 22:47.40 | GGon | DocScrutinizer51: like zimbra? :-P |
| 22:47.44 | GGon | zimbra was so fail |
| 22:48.04 | GGon | i think in the last 10 years .. minus nokia.. zimbra was probably the biggest let down i encountered |
| 22:48.16 | GGon | and the touchbook |
| 22:48.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | like Linksys wrt54G router |
| 22:48.28 | GGon | i still hope that damn frog choked on my money for getting that piece of shit |
| 22:49.00 | GGon | really? my wrt54g rendered fine in konqueror |
| 22:49.03 | GGon | it's quite basic |
| 22:49.14 | GGon | i'm running ddwrt on it |
| 22:49.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | not reallly |
| 22:49.30 | GGon | opera works with it ;) |
| 22:49.44 | GGon | i haven't ran into anything yet opera can't handle.. and i was expecting to find something on day 1 |
| 22:49.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | WRT54GL |
| 22:49.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | rev1.1 |
| 22:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah ddwrt will prolly work |
| 22:50.13 | GGon | DocScrutinizer51: i'm sure their interface is pretty much the same in the wrt54g series |
| 22:50.32 | GGon | i actually got a newer dual band router but wound up still getting shit speeds so jjust brought it back |
| 22:50.37 | GGon | and went to my 54g |
| 22:50.41 | GGon | at its solid 2MB/s :-/ |
| 22:50.48 | Skry | pff, time to mentally murder self with pvr sgx drivers |
| 22:50.58 | GGon | sgx drivers? |
| 22:51.06 | GGon | not that old chestnut :) |
| 22:51.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey, wrt54gl case is built to stack them. WTF? |
| 22:52.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, who would stack WLAN AP? |
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| 22:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | not only would it be insane regarding antenna interference |
| 22:53.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | also: WHY? |
| 22:54.29 | jonne|reconnecte | i'd like to be able to stack all my internet stuff |
| 22:54.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | they better had provided any sane means to bolt the crap to the wall |
| 22:54.55 | jonne|reconnecte | right now i have an wrt54g and my ISP's completely unstackable DSL router |
| 22:55.04 | jonne|reconnecte | takes up a ridiculous amount of space |
| 22:55.51 | Skry | GGon: Yeah, sgx, the one in N900. Trying to get those to build and maybe even work with later kernels. Well, modules build, 2d works on framebuffer but everything else pretty much fails, including Xorg. |
| 22:55.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonne|reconnecte: just wrt54gl is no DSL router, it's a 4-switch with 802.11g |
| 22:56.45 | jonne|reconnecte | did i say anything that would make one assume i thought it wasn't? |
| 22:56.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you switch off the WLAN in one of two, you get a stack of a wlan-rouetr-switch with a switch :-S |
| 22:57.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I see no sane usecase in such a stack |
| 23:00.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | GGon: how do you like ddwrt? is it oppering advanced configuration? like "cron for ifdown/ifup" |
| 23:01.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | offering* |
| 23:01.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | proper NAT |
| 23:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | etc |
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| 23:37.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe a better question: what's the recommended version? |
| 23:37.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | or is maybe openWRT the better alternative? |
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