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| 14:24.26 | qwazix | what build-depends should I have when autobuilder complains about -lQtSensors |
| 14:24.28 | qwazix | ? |
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| 18:22.58 | Sicelo | funny stuff happening to my N900.. i had 3 tabs open in Opera, and it froze. no button works now, and even backlight doesn't come on. Guess i'll have to remove battery |
| 18:23.06 | Sicelo | if only i was on wifi |
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| 18:33.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* @ foundation naming and bylaws threads |
| 18:33.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | or the topic in general - poor council |
| 18:34.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | (poor as in "I feel with you", not poor like in "not really good") |
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| 19:00.55 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: also poor as in "without enough money" |
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| 19:58.47 | fasta | What's NitDroid exactly? |
| 19:59.15 | fasta | Can I install Maemo and NitDroid both? |
| 19:59.35 | tadzik | it's Android for N900, as far as I understand it |
| 19:59.41 | tadzik | and yes, I think you can have both |
| 19:59.47 | tadzik | never did it though |
| 20:00.29 | DocPyrotizer | fasta: you'll need some means to dualboot, for nitdroid |
| 20:00.46 | fasta | DocPyrotizer: and where do I get such means? |
| 20:01.11 | fasta | I didn't really see anyt documentation of NitDroid. |
| 20:01.45 | DocPyrotizer | well, I for one never even cared to search for such docs |
| 20:02.08 | tadzik | there's this monster tmo thread containing (probably) everything |
| 20:02.50 | fasta | You know what would be useful? A noise removal algorithm for tmo. |
| 20:03.00 | tadzik | haha |
| 20:03.01 | DocPyrotizer | since I think N900 is a pretty poor android device |
| 20:03.18 | fasta | DocPyrotizer: I would only like to enable Whatsapp. |
| 20:03.26 | DocPyrotizer | and who wants android anyway |
| 20:03.34 | fasta | DocPyrotizer: (despite it being terrible and evil) |
| 20:03.35 | tadzik | some people do, apparently |
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| 20:07.43 | DocPyrotizer | well, you are aware of the implications of dualbooting? It basically means you have to decide if you want android with whatsapp, or maemo withh all the rest (incl GPRS and wifi which might not work under android) |
| 20:08.26 | sixwheeledbeast | fasta: I believe there a wiki for that http://wiki.maemo.org/NITDroid_Port |
| 20:08.38 | fasta | DocPyrotizer: AFAIK, I only have to 'activate' something once via nitdroid. |
| 20:08.45 | fasta | DocPyrotizer: then when that works, Maemo can be used. |
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| 20:14.29 | kerio | DocPyrotizer: there's a whatsapp client for the n900, but the registration is broken |
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| 20:14.45 | kerio | so you need to run the actual android app to register |
| 20:14.52 | kerio | after that, you're fine |
| 20:15.02 | kerio | (and it sends the IMEI, so you can't use another phone) |
| 20:16.34 | fasta | kerio: why can't it just send a fake IMEI? |
| 20:16.49 | kerio | fasta: it's the registration that doesn't work |
| 20:17.03 | kerio | sending a fake IMEI wouldn't help |
| 20:18.39 | fasta | Does anyone know of any good IRC client with some advanced anti-spam features? |
| 20:19.04 | tadzik | huh, I never felt a need for those on the IRC |
| 20:19.34 | fasta | tadzik: I alreadu got about 1500 messages from some spammer from a bitcoin channel. |
| 20:19.48 | tadzik | wow |
| 20:19.53 | tadzik | /ignore? |
| 20:20.27 | fasta | tadzik: the user names are all different. |
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| 20:20.39 | tadzik | I see |
| 20:20.48 | fasta | tadzik: I wrote a few regular expressions to get rid of it, but the client cannot handle the 15 regular expressions! |
| 20:21.06 | fasta | I can't believe how someone can design an IRC client to be that bad. |
| 20:21.13 | tadzik | :) what are you using? |
| 20:21.19 | fasta | tadzik: Quassel |
| 20:21.28 | fasta | tadzik: the core runs on a server. |
| 20:21.39 | fasta | tadzik: that's why I appear to be 'online' all the time. |
| 20:21.55 | fasta | tadzik: great idea, but the client itself is a total failure. |
| 20:22.07 | fasta | tadzik: the problem however is that almost all software sucks. |
| 20:22.12 | tadzik | I just use weechat on the ssh shell |
| 20:22.20 | tadzik | yeah, well, welcome to the World :) |
| 20:22.23 | fasta | I have also tried out about 30 music players or so. |
| 20:22.33 | fasta | All of them are just really, really wrong. |
| 20:22.41 | tadzik | I like mpd+ncmpcpp combo |
| 20:22.50 | fasta | The one I use now isn't supposed to work according to the C++ standard. |
| 20:22.53 | tadzik | I didn't find a single GUI one that's not horrible |
| 20:24.22 | fasta | tadzik: for something like mpd, some kind of 'wizard' to set things up is needed. |
| 20:24.42 | tadzik | maybe |
| 20:24.52 | fasta | tadzik: and I'd guess that ncmpcpp also doesn't download lyrics, etc. |
| 20:24.58 | tadzik | it does, actually |
| 20:25.13 | fasta | tadzik: ok, I don't care about album art :) |
| 20:25.25 | fasta | tadzik: that's sort of nice then. I will try it then sometime. |
| 20:25.39 | tadzik | I like the fact that it's directory-driven rather than metadata-driven |
| 20:25.46 | fasta | tadzik: has it been written in some kind of decent C++? |
| 20:26.01 | tadzik | I have no eye deer, I don't feel a need to look at the source code |
| 20:26.06 | tadzik | especially since it's C++ |
| 20:26.11 | fasta | tadzik: it never crashed? |
| 20:26.16 | tadzik | not for me |
| 20:26.29 | fasta | tadzik: and you have left it running for weeks? |
| 20:26.41 | tadzik | why would I? It's a client, not a server |
| 20:26.50 | tadzik | mpd runs for months here |
| 20:27.16 | fasta | tadzik: and I expect it also has some kind of CLI api? |
| 20:27.28 | tadzik | ncmpcpp is an ncurses app |
| 20:27.33 | tadzik | mpd is a daemon which plays music |
| 20:27.35 | fasta | tadzik: i.e. things like foobar next, to go to the next song? |
| 20:28.02 | tadzik | there are mpd clients which do that, mpc for example. Or you can just connect to host:port and send "next" |
| 20:28.15 | tadzik | also, I have a feeling we're going rather offtopic in here, and may make some people mad ;) |
| 20:28.43 | fasta | tadzik: I don't think we do, but everything which can be said about it has been said. |
| 20:29.25 | tadzik | not sure how #maemo reacts to offtopic, so I try to be careful-ish [;) |
| 20:30.16 | DocPyrotizer | kerio: ending a fake IMEI wouldn't help ### sure it would, when I send fake IMEI of N900 from arbitary other platform for registration |
| 20:30.25 | kerio | oic |
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| 22:44.24 | ShadowJK | N900 bluetooth range is somewhat impressive |
| 22:44.57 | ShadowJK | 45 meters before my headphones started cutting out |
| 22:56.46 | SpeedEvil | wow |
| 22:56.53 | SpeedEvil | which phones? |
| 22:59.18 | ZogG_laptop | lumia? |
| 22:59.25 | ZogG_laptop | makes trollface |
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| 23:19.26 | ShadowJK | SpeedEvil; some peltor bluetooth ones |
| 23:20.01 | SpeedEvil | I've been wondering about getting some, but I have conflicting needs. |
| 23:20.29 | ShadowJK | ws2 oe something |
| 23:20.29 | ShadowJK | wears them at work |
| 23:20.32 | SpeedEvil | maybe I should just stick with regular in ear and a convertor box |
| 23:20.56 | ShadowJK | I went to fetch the less sucky dmm and only noticed when I went into the machine shop that I had forgotten phone |
| 23:21.32 | ShadowJK | then I checked range :) |
| 23:22.44 | SpeedEvil | I'm finding in ear phones mostly OK for nuisance noise attenuation |
| 23:23.06 | SpeedEvil | and then slap some cheap ear defenders on top for really decent |
| 23:23.19 | ShadowJK | I've been temoted to try Shure's in-ear, their (now historical) published specs indicated noise isolation almost as good as real hearing protection |
| 23:23.28 | ShadowJK | tempted* |
| 23:23.53 | SpeedEvil | I've been using the n900 phones |
| 23:24.50 | ShadowJK | I find I need really tiny in-ear ones to fit underneath, and the types with rubber or silicone earcanal seal are uncomfortable like that, the foam varieties are better, they prevent differential air pressure from building up |
| 23:25.36 | ShadowJK | heh, I've never even tried those, but the driver part, and the strain relief looked too big, iirc |
| 23:25.47 | SpeedEvil | yeah, you need properly fitted silicone. |
| 23:26.11 | SpeedEvil | I was pondering casting my own. but the stock ones work OK |
| 23:28.04 | ShadowJK | No I mean when the silicone properly fits, it gets uncomfortable with additional cups on top |
| 23:28.37 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 23:28.55 | ShadowJK | fits/seals |
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