| 00:25.14 | Skry | anyone related to kernel-power in here? |
| 00:32.06 | Skry | or someone with some knowledge of smartreflex, iva and voltage domains :) |
| 01:03.57 | SpeedEvil | I don't know much beyond it can be unstable on some devices |
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| 01:14.27 | Skry | my problems are not with kernel-power, but with a custom kernel. Enabling sr on iva causes panic. |
| 01:15.15 | GGon | i think i'm going to film a movie with my N900 and say i did it with the Lumia 900 |
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| 01:29.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: sorry, that's fuzzy. KP *is* a custom kernel. What do you mean? |
| 01:29.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | and what's "iva" |
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| 01:31.31 | SpeedEvil | smart reflex is unstable on some devices due to hw issues. |
| 01:31.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 01:31.41 | SpeedEvil | not really fixable |
| 01:36.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: do you recall what's been the catch with Qt(-linedit(4.7.4)) and the "black-on-black text" issue? |
| 01:36.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | *very* old stuff |
| 01:36.31 | LaoLang_cool | Hi, is there an app for sms counter? There is a smscounter already, but it counts sms via the sms database, so it's not useful if I have deleted sms, I want to monitor how many sms I have sent on n900 one month |
| 01:36.46 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer05: nope |
| 01:39.46 | jpinx | quick question - is there any way to improve the screen resolution when plugging a n900 into an external TV screen ? |
| 01:40.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 01:40.34 | jpinx | I guessed that :) thanks DocScrutinizer05 |
| 01:40.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least that's what I guess |
| 01:41.39 | jpinx | yea - it's not as though that output is going through a seperate video controller |
| 01:41.51 | jpinx | but I thought I'd ask anyway ;) |
| 01:41.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | better than PAL won't be available unless you accept non-standard CVBS signals which in turn won't fly with any TV |
| 01:42.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | PAL == 512 lines |
| 01:42.51 | jpinx | Ewww.... grainy |
| 01:43.41 | jpinx | it's of marginal interest anyway cos you still haveto use the touchscreen controls to actually do anything |
| 01:43.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc the N900 display has 800*480lines |
| 01:44.20 | Skry | DocScrutinizer05: linux-omap 3.6-rc4. IVA == MPU or DSP if you like. Just wondering if SR has ever worked with dsp or if this is regression. Sorry for being fuzzy, it's 04:45 and I'm somewhat tired. |
| 01:44.34 | jpinx | I have to wear my glasses to rad the n900 screen and I thought using the TV might alleviate that - but no... |
| 01:46.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: AV output is of abysmal quality anyway. Anything better than PAL wouldn't pass the whole HW, even if possible |
| 01:46.57 | jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: yea - I get it ;) |
| 01:47.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, it gets lost in cable |
| 01:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | though technically I assume PAL on N900 is 800*512 (on 100% zoom), it definitley isn't better than maybe 500*512, due to "low-pass filter" formed by cable, plugs, etc |
| 01:50.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | red areas even worse, they bleed out like mad, so I can't read red text of "standard size" |
| 01:51.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. in xchat's chan tabs |
| 01:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | no improvement in resolution can fix that |
| 01:52.33 | jpinx | yea - too much loss in cabling etc |
| 01:53.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: DSP seems to be more prone to problems introduced by SR than CPU |
| 01:53.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | general advice: don't use SR, it's most likely not really worth it |
| 01:55.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all it's just a hw automatism to switch core voltages depending on clock freq, that gets emulated anyway on maemo kernel via software during cpu freq switching by freq-governor |
| 01:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 01:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so, aiui, SR may improve CPU performance slightly, by eliminating need in kernels sw to deal with core voltages 'manually', but it will *not* significantly reduce power consumption |
| 02:00.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | concurrent usage of 'automatic' mode of SR and 'manual' mode tuning the VDD-regulator settings might even create problems |
| 02:00.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I don't see anything is disabling 'manual' mode when you simply echo 1 >smartreflex |
| 02:02.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | SR patches to PK been again something done without knowledge of full picture, I'd guess |
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| 02:04.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | first Nokia stock maemo5 kernels had SR sysnodes iirc. Just 'userland' never enabled it (echo 1 >/sys/*/*/sr). While Nokia decided to remove the sysnode in some later kernel, based on proper rationale I guess, others decided to pull it in again to PK and even suggest to enable it |
| 02:06.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | the rationale of the latter is questionable at least |
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| 02:11.00 | Skry | might be. I dont know, there is something weird happening with the whole PM subsystem, random lockups and panics. |
| 02:12.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, there's some hw flaw of undisclosed thus unknown nature reportedly in SR, according to Nokia |
| 02:12.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why they implemented it in sw, and consequently deprecated and removed sysnode for SR from stock kernel |
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| 02:14.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | may I ask what's your hw revision? |
| 02:15.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | grep hw-build /proc/component_version |
| 02:21.07 | Skry | 2101 |
| 02:22.07 | Skry | I actually dont have any problems with SR when using KP. |
| 02:22.50 | Skry | I guess 3.6-rc4+ is too bleeding edge :) |
| 02:27.33 | Skry | Anyways, that SR "problem" is not the only one, for some reason cpufreq does not go below 500MHz automatically or manually, even though the freqs are in OPP table. |
| 02:32.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: wait, you're running kernel 3.6-rc4? without maemo-patches? |
| 02:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | won't fly afaik |
| 02:33.33 | Skry | Well, not using it with maemo, but yes. |
| 02:33.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo kernel is pretty 'custom' even in stock version |
| 02:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might want to check what mer/nemo got for N900 kernel, they might have something semi-recent and working |
| 02:37.53 | Skry | I've had no other problems than this so far. They dont have anything semi-recent afaik, there is abandoned 3.0 wip from meego but there is nothing usable in there. |
| 02:38.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw thanks for sharing that, it seems a pretty good indication that all SR messing around in/with PK is just cruft and blunder, since maemo-patches in kernel and cpu-governor still do the manual regulator control thing, and plain vanilla SR doesn't work at all |
| 02:39.36 | Skry | Yeah, it seems that SR somewhat works with core (sometimes works, sometimes panics) and always panics with mpu |
| 02:40.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 02:41.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya DSP seems more prone to problems from SR than CPU |
| 02:41.48 | Skry | so it seems. |
| 02:41.50 | Skry | hmm |
| 02:43.16 | Skry | vdd_mpu_iva: 600 <--> 1450 mV normal | voltdm_scale: No voltage scale API registered for vdd_mpu_iva | platform mpu.0: omap_target: unable to scale voltage down. |
| 02:45.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | "No voltage scale API registered for vdd_mpu_iva" makes sense, since afaik cpu core voltage is linked to DSP core voltage, they are one same thing |
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| 02:49.09 | Skry | i think so too. Could it be possible that something tries to adjust them separately and fails causing the lockups? |
| 02:49.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 02:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only recently had a very short cursory read about internals of SR, in TRM of omap3430 and tps65950 aka twl4030 aka GAIA/pmu |
| 02:51.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I don't know if maybe SR even expects them to be separate and this might be the cause of Nokia's statement that "SR is broken in hw" |
| 02:52.18 | Skry | It must be Nokia specific since that should be possible/work with 3430 |
| 02:53.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure (unless it's a silicon erratum in early mask steps of either twl4030 or omap3430) |
| 02:54.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | but for sure it might also be Nokia's design not using the LDO-regulator for DSP like it's recommended by TI |
| 02:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | (if there's such a thing like a dedicated LDO for DSP) |
| 02:55.05 | Skry | So, the whole issue might be somewhat bigger, what if there is some Nokia weirdness that prevents some combinations of ON/RET/OFF states, which would lead to panics when using 3430 C-states with rx-51 :S |
| 02:55.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | :shrug: |
| 02:57.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you find out about which particular weirdness that might be (in schematics, or in Nokia's kernel patches), we'll never know, since @Nokia there's nobody left over who even *could* tell us |
| 02:59.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | we *could* check the assumption of dedicated DSP LDO existing in twl4030 but not used by Nokia in N900. We got the schematics and the TRM/UM/datasheets of twl4030/tps65950 |
| 03:00.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | If you don't have them, /query me |
| 03:00.58 | Skry | actually N900 has different C-states than rest of 34xx, I already hacked them into cpuidle34xx.c, but I only looked at latency and residency values, not the states of core and mpu. So I guess I need to take a peek at Nokias sources. |
| 03:05.45 | Skry | ok I'll ask you for the datasheets IF I cant figure anything else out |
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| 08:26.12 | pavi | Here is a very silly question , I remember my N900 having builtin google talk and built in skype . I remember removing them .. dunno how but they are gone . How to get them back . By built in I mean skype via phone contacts |
| 08:28.57 | pavi | dpkg -l says that skype-installer and skype-ui-l10n-* are installed |
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| 08:40.28 | kerio | i don't have those |
| 08:41.28 | kerio | i have osso-accounts-plugin-skype, rtcom-abook-skype-plugin, rtcom-skype-emoticon-theme |
| 08:41.37 | kerio | oh, i do have skype-ui-l10n-* |
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| 08:53.53 | pavi | apparently I dunno where to look |
| 08:54.08 | pavi | I went to settings and found the voip accounts thingy |
| 08:54.18 | pavi | But skype is not signing in :( |
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| 08:54.21 | pavi | google work |
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| 10:39.24 | Skry | DocScrutinizer05: You seem to be very familiar with hardware so regarding our conversation earlier.. I found interesting note from one patch from Meego/Mer: |
| 10:39.31 | Skry | jhnikula@gmail.com: voltage.c: OMAP4430_VDD_CORE_OPPx's in |
| 10:39.31 | Skry | omap34xx_vdd1_vdd2_data replaced with OMAP3430_VDD_CORE_OPP3_UV. First |
| 10:39.31 | Skry | because of OMAP4430_VDD_CORE_OPPx is not available in 2.6.37, is wrong for |
| 10:39.31 | Skry | 34xx (even the voltages are close) and since the DSS don't work if core |
| 10:39.34 | Skry | voltage is scaled.] |
| 10:39.55 | Skry | can you confirm this? sorry for the paste.. |
| 10:40.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I seem to miss my coffe to make sense of this |
| 10:47.41 | Skry | Thats from the patchset to Introduce DVSF (dynamic voltage and frequency scaling).. Basically that is saying that IF you scale down core voltage, DSS (display subsystem) stops working. |
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| 10:51.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, that's probably not specified in datasheet, so this info has to originate from somewhere else |
| 10:52.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe ask for jhnikula in #mer |
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| 11:01.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: please /join #mer , read chanlog last 5 minutes |
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| 11:10.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | background/context (for your convenience) http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-08.log.html#t2012-09-08T03:25:14 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-08.log.html#t2012-09-08T04:53:10 |
| 11:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops ECHAN |
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| 13:27.23 | tadzik | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
| 13:27.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | pong |
| 13:27.58 | tadzik | I have the new flex cable, and was able to disassembly N900 up to the point when I have the Slider thingy separate |
| 13:28.10 | tadzik | but then it seems like this flex cable is glued to it or something |
| 13:28.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | follow instructions in L1_2 |
| 13:29.07 | tadzik | oh, ok. Just looked at the L1L2 |
| 13:29.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd guess it's glued somewhere, but first you have to disassemble upper half (screen half) to get access |
| 13:29.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never did that disassembly of upper half, so can't comment first-hand about it |
| 13:29.57 | tadzik | I have this SLIDE ASSY separate |
| 13:30.08 | tadzik | and disconnected that from the LCD |
| 13:30.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, I've also seen parts labeled "slide ass'y + main flex cable" sold as a unit |
| 13:31.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I guess it's glued by doublesided sticky |
| 13:31.25 | tadzik | probably |
| 13:31.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | but, see above |
| 13:31.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | never looked into it |
| 13:31.48 | tadzik | right |
| 13:32.05 | tadzik | must be somewhere in L3_4 |
| 13:32.22 | tadzik | L1_2 (L1L2?) just treats it as an atomic part |
| 13:32.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe, though L3_4 is mainly about technical descriptions and subsystems |
| 13:33.20 | tadzik | hrm, so I could just spend twice the money on the whole slider thing and resell the cable itself, maybe |
| 13:33.27 | tadzik | sighs |
| 13:33.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you warm up the whole thing thoroughly (60-70°C) and then slowly peel off the old cable |
| 13:33.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
| 13:34.05 | tadzik | haha, right :P |
| 13:34.26 | tadzik | do you have any idea who might have dismantled it the way I'll need to? |
| 13:34.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, nobody comes to mind |
| 13:35.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway L1_2 is pretty good until it becomes obvious how to proceed |
| 13:35.49 | tadzik | yeah, well, it's not enough in this case |
| 13:35.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I guess nothing special with how main flex aka FPC is glued to slider mech |
| 13:36.13 | tadzik | on the last photo when it says "now disassembled, bravo" the slider assy is shown as one part |
| 13:36.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 13:36.26 | tadzik | just glue, eh? |
| 13:36.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd not worry too much, it's for sure ds-sticky |
| 13:36.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | warm it up, peel it off, slowly and carefully |
| 13:37.15 | tadzik | well, I'm about to throw it away anyway |
| 13:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | prior to that, MARK THE EXACT POSITION |
| 13:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | with pencil or whatever |
| 13:37.52 | tadzik | it has holes it has to match |
| 13:38.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 13:38.09 | tadzik | so I guess you can't get it wrong (famous last words) |
| 13:38.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless a nice mark helps a lot |
| 13:38.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | mind you, there's sticky so you won't move it much once you got it near the sticky area |
| 13:38.55 | tadzik | especially since the holes in metal are bigger than the ones in flex |
| 13:38.59 | tadzik | shakes fist |
| 13:39.21 | tadzik | how to heat it safely, hairdryer? |
| 13:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | fair enough |
| 13:39.45 | tadzik | okay, let's get this started then |
| 13:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | just take your time, it will take like minutes to come off slowly |
| 13:40.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | more force isn't speeding this up the way you'd expect it to |
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| 13:40.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | more heat though will |
| 13:41.01 | tadzik | hm |
| 13:41.07 | tadzik | I have to figure out my own sticky thing? |
| 13:41.22 | tadzik | or the one that's there will stay, enough of this to put a new one there? |
| 13:41.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, heat up the FPC side so sticky stays on slider mech |
| 13:41.34 | tadzik | ok |
| 13:42.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually old sticky is 're-usable' if treated *carefully* during peel-off |
| 13:42.08 | kerio | man, animation-less hildon is seriously cool |
| 13:42.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, anim is for sissies |
| 13:42.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | uselss eye-candy most of the time |
| 13:42.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | gets annoying pretty fast |
| 13:43.49 | tadzik | and gets pretty fast once you get rid of it ;) |
| 13:43.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | HARM is all about eye-candy, once that's 'used up' you discover the massive lack of functionality behind that chrome cover |
| 13:44.31 | kerio | HARM? |
| 13:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | just a sidenote, rather OT |
| 13:45.13 | kerio | why the all caps? |
| 13:46.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | no special reason, I just got used to that way to write it |
| 13:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | to distinguish from the noun harm |
| 13:47.37 | tadzik | haha, lucky day |
| 13:47.44 | tadzik | the new flex cable has its own sticky on it |
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| 13:47.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | cool |
| 13:48.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | pro tip: remove sticky/glue residues with further strong sticky tape you press on it and remove fast |
| 13:49.28 | tadzik | was just about to scratch them off |
| 13:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | gaffa tape works pretty good |
| 13:49.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | scratching doesn't really work |
| 13:50.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | too smeary |
| 13:51.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | use scotch or gaffa patches to dab it off |
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| 13:51.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | each time you dab with sticky tape, a bit more of the glue residues comes off and stays on sticky patch |
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| 13:52.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | while with scatching you can't remove anything of that crap |
| 13:53.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll just pread it all over the place |
| 13:53.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | spread* |
| 13:54.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and ruin the surface sticky properties, so later dabbing off won't work anymore |
| 13:55.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you *could* dissolve it with accetone |
| 13:55.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it's on plain metal surface |
| 13:55.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it's really messy |
| 13:56.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | dab off with sticky tape is really best and proven procedure |
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| 14:01.12 | tadzik | scotch worked quite well |
| 14:01.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya |
| 14:01.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 14:01.30 | tadzik | scotch + fingernail ;) |
| 14:04.08 | jon_y | wet tissue paper :) |
| 14:04.15 | jon_y | or wet cloth |
| 14:06.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | tadzik: good luck! I'm afk now |
| 14:07.01 | tadzik | any way to make this flex cable more bulletproof somehow? |
| 14:07.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah |
| 14:07.14 | tadzik | DocScrutinizer05: thanks :) Will report once I get this thing back together |
| 14:07.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | appreciated |
| 14:07.33 | tadzik | if it's flexing near metal parts it's bound to get fscked sooner or later |
| 14:07.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | (bulletproof) keep clean and free of dust |
| 14:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | anything sliding in between upper and lower half of N900 most certainly will damage the FPC |
| 14:09.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so make sure there are no credit card, business cards, whatever going in there |
| 14:09.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | and keep it away from dust and sand |
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| 14:16.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | anybody got problems with recent marble update? |
| 14:34.58 | tadzik | haha, fixed! |
| 14:35.07 | tadzik | (sent from my n900) |
| 14:35.07 | kerio | by the way, pierogi is a really good remote control app |
| 14:38.26 | Sicelo | tadzik: \o/ |
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| 14:43.47 | kerio | hm, is there a better terminal emulator for the n900? |
| 14:44.22 | Skry | whats wrong with xterm? |
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| 14:45.46 | kerio | no 256color support, for instance |
| 14:47.05 | tadzik | DocScrutinizer05: thanks for all support, that was one exciting experience :) |
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| 14:59.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | tadzik: YW |
| 14:59.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | draws another checkmark on his chalkboard |
| 15:07.02 | Lava_Croft | kerio: iirc, no |
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| 15:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: (256) ??? http://inz.fi/blog/category/geeky/maemo/maemo-hackers/osso-xterm/ |
| 15:11.56 | Lava_Croft | apparently there's something called evilvte too |
| 15:11.59 | Lava_Croft | but i haven't used it |
| 15:14.56 | kerio | oh, there's no xterm-256color terminfo |
| 15:15.05 | kerio | that's probably part of the problem |
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| 15:30.52 | kerio | hm, i wonder if backupmenu should tweak kernel parameters wrt caches and queues |
| 15:40.15 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: do you reckon bq24k's emergency charge is enough to prevent the battery from draining when using bootmenu's usb MSM? |
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| 15:45.20 | ShadowJK | would doubt |
| 15:46.15 | kerio | then backupmenu it is :D |
| 15:48.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: BM has proper charging, based on my script |
| 15:49.51 | kerio | i know |
| 15:50.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | oops bootmenu not backupmenu, you said |
| 15:51.06 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: yeah, i was doing a backup and i tried both bootmenu and backupmenu's usb stuff |
| 15:52.32 | kerio | ~seen robbiethe1st |
| 15:52.33 | infobot | robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@50-37-128-155.mscw.id.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 14h 7m 8s ago, saying: 'It's like a T3 or 4'. |
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| 15:59.23 | Skry | DocScrutinizer51: surprisingly the fault was cpufreq, not smartreflex |
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| 16:23.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | toldya cpufreq is usually doing that stuff manully |
| 16:23.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | so if you wanna use SR you probably need a special build or special parameter of/to cpufreq |
| 16:25.37 | Skry | yup, i'll have go through mer patches for cpufreq if there is something i didnt notice earlier |
| 16:27.23 | Skry | imo these things should just work by now |
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| 16:53.19 | Psotnick | Can someone tell me what is the width of maemo panel? |
| 16:54.07 | Skry | 800px |
| 16:54.46 | Psotnick | Not the screen, just the top panel with time, battery status etc |
| 16:55.14 | Skry | sorry, gotta learn to read :D |
| 16:55.45 | Psotnick | No problem, I just have no idea how can I measure it |
| 16:56.09 | Skry | take screenshot and check with some image editor |
| 16:56.24 | Psotnick | Oh, thanks |
| 16:56.28 | Psotnick | I'm dumb... |
| 16:56.45 | kerio | Psotnick: still 800px |
| 16:56.52 | kerio | the height on the other hand... |
| 16:57.15 | Skry | i guess you could find the correct value from sources but i guess screenshot is faster :) |
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| 16:59.01 | Skry | kerio: i think he means that semi transparent part of it |
| 17:00.42 | kerio | but... it's variable :s |
| 17:02.39 | Psotnick | No, I meant height ofc |
| 17:03.31 | kerio | oic |
| 17:03.32 | Psotnick | But like I said, I'm dumb and I thought it's ok to say width, sorry |
| 17:05.01 | kerio | 56px |
| 17:07.04 | Psotnick | thx |
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| 18:04.26 | sixwheeledbeast | maemo.org down? |
| 18:04.31 | sixwheeledbeast | http://www.isup.me/maemo.org |
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| 18:16.00 | spoofy | Hello :) Is there anyone who solved the problem of metasploit and postgresql? Is the postgresql package is available somewhere? |
| 18:21.58 | Psotnick | How to create app that supports portrait mode with hildon.h? Is there a function for that or something like that? |
| 18:24.19 | sixwheeledbeast | do you mean an app that auto rotates? |
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| 18:34.50 | sixwheeledbeast | Psotnick: ?? |
| 18:36.22 | Psotnick | sixwheeledbeast: yes |
| 18:36.33 | sixwheeledbeast | python? |
| 18:36.51 | Psotnick | C/C++ |
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| 18:39.53 | sixwheeledbeast | class MainWindow : public QMainWindow |
| 18:39.55 | sixwheeledbeast | { |
| 18:39.57 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.59 | sixwheeledbeast | public: |
| 18:40.01 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.03 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.05 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.06 | kerio | don't paste you dick |
| 18:40.07 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.09 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.13 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.15 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.19 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.21 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.25 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.29 | sixwheeledbeast | sorry |
| 18:42.16 | spoofy | Ugh.. Can someone with working sdk can compile new postgresql? gem install pg is not working.. even with export path can't find pg_config |
| 18:42.28 | Psotnick | I said using hildon.h not QT |
| 18:45.45 | trx | sixwheeledbeast also, this is much more simple to copy : setAttribute(Qt::WA_Maemo5PortraitOrientation, true); or (setAttribute(Qt::WA_Maemo5AutoOrientation, true);, etc) |
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| 19:46.41 | icetear | hi |
| 19:47.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | hi |
| 19:47.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | sixwheeledbeast: please no pasting >5 lines (usually 3) |
| 19:48.43 | icetear | this is the maemo channel.. right? this is first time i use irc chat.. |
| 19:49.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | welcome |
| 19:49.20 | tadzik | hello icetear |
| 19:49.32 | icetear | and i'm italian and not speach very well english. |
| 19:50.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | i5's good enough :) |
| 19:51.02 | icetear | i have a question for maemo...it's possible increase the fm trainsmitter? |
| 19:51.17 | kerio | icetear: yes, but the results are still kinda bad |
| 19:51.56 | kerio | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/binary/fmtxd1.3 this is a modified fmtxd, put it in /usr/sbin/( |
| 19:51.57 | kerio | er |
| 19:52.00 | kerio | in /usr/sbin/ |
| 19:52.04 | kerio | (it's for PR1.3) |
| 19:52.36 | kerio | OpenMediaPlayer also has a way to not disable the fmtx when the charger is connected, with that modified fmtxd |
| 19:52.45 | kerio | note that it'll still not be "good", in any way |
| 19:52.54 | kerio | but it's as good as it can be |
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| 19:54.31 | icetear | i understand..i have n900 (nokia) i read in my language in many sites but it's really difficoult |
| 19:55.45 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer51: yes sorry all, a moment of madness |
| 19:58.25 | icetear | i see the file what is this? |
| 19:58.47 | icetear | i'm not a programmator.. |
| 19:59.25 | sixwheeledbeast | it is a binary to replace the default one |
| 20:00.20 | icetear | i put this in my nokia? |
| 20:00.47 | icetear | for amplific fm trasmission? |
| 20:01.38 | kerio | -sigh- |
| 20:01.41 | kerio | i'll deal with this |
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| 20:16.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: you'll do? In a polite way? :) |
| 20:17.30 | kerio | in a polite and italian way, yep |
| 20:17.46 | kerio | in PM |
| 20:17.54 | kerio | well, in query |
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| 21:13.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders if the "polite italian way" sounds like "EEEH cazo, stupido!" |
| 21:14.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 21:15.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno why, but somehow polite and italian in same sentence sounds weird |
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| 21:16.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a lost-in-translation problem though |
| 21:16.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | or blame Berlusconi |
| 21:16.51 | Skry | cant help but think italian spiderman |
| 21:19.47 | kerio | LOL RACISM |
| 21:19.50 | kerio | so funny |
| 21:20.41 | kerio | amirite |
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| 21:23.52 | GGon | l'uomo ragno stupefacente |
| 21:24.03 | GGon | :-P |
| 21:27.28 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, no |
| 21:27.36 | kerio | i just explained him how to install jacekowski's fmtxd |
| 21:27.59 | kerio | and i told him to not get his hopes up wrt fmtx range |
| 21:28.11 | kerio | ...and then he asked me if i knew how to use cleven |
| 21:30.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay :-D |
| 21:31.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is when the real hacker tells with low voice "son, you're not ready to use it until you found out how to use it by yourself" |
| 21:31.47 | GGon | programmator? |
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| 21:32.26 | kerio | GGon: "programmatore" is the italian translation for "programmer" |
| 21:32.27 | GGon | is that like. the developer oracle? |
| 21:32.38 | GGon | oh |
| 21:33.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | french is awesome: ordinateur |
| 21:33.03 | GGon | now that i think about it... you don't hear the term "programmer" much |
| 21:33.15 | GGon | it's usually "developer" |
| 21:33.30 | kerio | or "coder" |
| 21:33.32 | GGon | i blame python :-P |
| 21:33.34 | GGon | yeah that too |
| 21:33.37 | kerio | no u |
| 21:34.05 | kerio | python is awsum :< |
| 21:34.40 | GGon | python has far overreached its intended purpose :) |
| 21:34.50 | kerio | and yet... |
| 21:34.51 | GGon | well... let me go outside. it's beautiful out there |
| 21:34.55 | GGon | before the world ends this year |
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| 21:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
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| 21:35.22 | Skry | is it ending again? :o |
| 21:35.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | turns a dial on the control panel of the big blue box |
| 21:35.47 | GGon | Skry: according to some white guy who says the mayan calendar is ending |
| 21:35.57 | GGon | didn't you watch the ancient aliens special?? :-P |
| 21:36.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, his mind is ending |
| 21:36.10 | GGon | in india aliens were flying around dropping atomic bombs on each other |
| 21:36.15 | GGon | which explains india |
| 21:36.17 | GGon | :) |
| 21:36.17 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: is it the dial that gives me money? |
| 21:37.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: the simulation is somewhat complex and fuzzy (literally). Not entirely clear if any side effect of that one dial might cause sudden money at your side |
| 21:37.54 | Skry | GGon: nah didn't watch it, lost interest after few episodes, the greek guy was awesome though. |
| 21:38.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | funny enough in TV they show 13th floor |
| 21:38.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders if that might be a subtle endless recursion |
| 21:42.06 | GGon | Skry: the author of chariots of fire? |
| 21:42.07 | GGon | heh |
| 21:42.25 | GGon | yeah.. rumor has it he was the last greek to have an actual occupation in the last 20 years |
| 21:44.11 | Skry | no doubt about that |
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| 22:41.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | isn't that more like "in the next 20 years"? |
| 22:42.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rathe "for the next..." |
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