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| 01:00.03 | RiD | hello there. Anyone been having problems with flash (on n900) not working on many sites? |
| 01:00.15 | Jef91 | whats the page that lists the gconf settings for the SSU? I can never find it >.< |
| 01:00.24 | Jef91 | RiD might be related to n900 only having like flash 9.4 |
| 01:00.27 | Jef91 | most need a newer version |
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| 01:00.49 | RiD | yeah, i know about that already. But apparently many decided o switch or so |
| 01:01.33 | RiD | liveleak.com, for example.That site hasn't seen a change for years |
| 01:01.45 | RiD | yet flash doesn't work on it anymore *cries* |
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| 02:30.34 | jonwil | is there a way to find out more about whats happening to my N900 battery (i.e. more than just the flashing "its charging" indicator)? |
| 02:30.53 | jonwil | I am seeing some wierdness where its draining a LOT faster than it should be |
| 02:31.01 | jonwil | right now it claims to be charging thank god |
| 02:31.16 | jonwil | remebers bq2700.sh |
| 02:32.00 | jonwil | ok, that one is giving me a "time to full" |
| 02:32.13 | jonwil | Not sure which number is for the current charge level of the battery though |
| 02:32.30 | jonwil | is charge measured in amps or volts? |
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| 02:33.06 | jonwil | amps is hovering around 830 |
| 02:33.22 | jonwil | and volts is going up and is somewhere around 3970 |
| 02:33.56 | jonwil | ttf keeps jumping around 138 or 139 or so |
| 02:34.11 | jonwil | Hopefully once this is charged, things will be back to normal |
| 02:34.25 | jonwil | If not, I may be up for a new battery :( (or worse, a new N900) |
| 02:36.58 | ShadowJK | ./bq27200.sh 5 |
| 02:37.01 | ShadowJK | for live display |
| 02:37.35 | jonwil | ok, so which number should I be reading to see if its actually charging? |
| 02:37.46 | ShadowJK | RSOC and CSOC: current charge level in percents. NAC CACD CACT: Current charge level in mAh. TTF: time to full in minutes, TTE: time to empty in minutes. |
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| 02:38.04 | ShadowJK | mA: Current net rate into/out of battery. Positive value indicates charging, negative value indicates discharging |
| 02:38.19 | jonwil | so as long as RSOC and CSOC are going up, its actually putting juice into the battery? |
| 02:38.38 | ShadowJK | Note that at close to full battery, it's not unusual to see some slight discharging when screen is on |
| 02:38.44 | jonwil | ok |
| 02:38.48 | jonwil | well this battery is far from full |
| 02:39.02 | jonwil | both RSOC and CSOC are currently at 20 |
| 02:39.24 | ShadowJK | If you run it without options, what does it say for last measured discharge? |
| 02:39.37 | jonwil | 1511Mah |
| 02:39.51 | ShadowJK | a bit too high :) |
| 02:40.02 | jonwil | what does that mean? |
| 02:40.37 | jonwil | I do know that when I went to my phone earlier to check something, it was totally flat as in auto-power-off |
| 02:40.50 | ShadowJK | The bq27200 chip is by default calibrated for a 2000mAh battery. It has the ability to learn the actual capacity, but the step from 2000 to 1320 is kinda big, so usually you don't see it relearning all the way |
| 02:41.13 | jonwil | yes I know for a fact I had it charged all the way to green last night |
| 02:41.29 | jonwil | I know because I made a phone call then plugged it in to recharge |
| 02:41.52 | jonwil | Best thing to do is to let it charge all the way until it turns green |
| 02:42.01 | jonwil | then unplug it and see what happens |
| 02:42.36 | jonwil | right now its at 20% |
| 02:43.23 | HtheB | e-yes |
| 02:43.24 | HtheB | sup |
| 02:44.33 | jonwil | A new battery for my phone is the last thing I want to have to buy so lets hope its not broken |
| 02:45.26 | jonwil | This is one of the reasons why I like the N900, you can get so much technical information about what the battery is doing and is supposed to be doing |
| 02:46.01 | jonwil | On an iPhone or Android device, you would probably only get a "hey its charging" indicator |
| 02:46.07 | jonwil | and no way to know how full it is |
| 02:46.15 | jonwil | or what its doing |
| 02:51.18 | FIQ|n900 | in fact, IIRC you can get some info out of batteries on android |
| 02:51.48 | FIQ|n900 | on iphone on the other hand... |
| 02:51.58 | FIQ|n900 | can you even change battery on an iphone? |
| 02:55.13 | FIQ|n900 | also |
| 02:55.22 | FIQ|n900 | where is this battery shellscript in question? |
| 02:55.41 | nox- | FIQ|n900, no, and even macbooks now have their batteries glued in... |
| 02:55.45 | FIQ|n900 | i.e. bq27200.sh |
| 02:55.54 | FIQ|n900 | nox-: evil |
| 02:56.02 | FIQ|n900 | but that's typical apple |
| 02:56.23 | FIQ|n900 | any single part broken? go and buy a new mac/iphone/whatever! |
| 02:56.32 | nox- | indeed |
| 02:56.49 | nox- | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence |
| 02:58.41 | ShadowJK | FIQ|n900, http://enivax.net/jk/n900/bq.tar - become root, put it in /root, tar -xf bq.tar, ./bq27200.sh |
| 02:59.31 | ShadowJK | or ./bq27200.sh 5 |
| 02:59.46 | ShadowJK | for a line by line monitoring output every 5 secs |
| 03:01.50 | FIQ|n900 | ok |
| 03:01.51 | FIQ|n900 | ty |
| 03:04.26 | FIQ|n900 | is mA supposed to be negative? |
| 03:04.46 | FIQ|n900 | i.e. -300ish |
| 03:11.18 | jonwil | mA being negative indicates current drain |
| 03:11.23 | jonwil | i.e. how much current the phone is using |
| 03:11.29 | jonwil | if its charging, mA should be positive |
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| 06:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it just means current in or out of battery. When you got it plugged to charger, it doesn't really tell anything about phone consumption |
| 06:23.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | except when battery is discharging while on charger, you can tell phone consumes more power than charging circuit can deliver. This usually results in according notifier warning about the fact |
| 06:25.19 | jonwil | hopefully whatever wierdness happened earlier doesn't indicate any kind of problem with my phone or battery |
| 06:25.43 | jonwil | as of now its fully charged and seems to be staying at maximum bars in the battery indicator |
| 06:26.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. connecting N900 to an unpowered USB hub will result in 100mA from USB (worst case) which almost certainly will be less than what N900 consumes -> battery discharging despite plugged to USB and allegedly "charging" |
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| 06:26.49 | jonwil | how it got all the way down to "empty enough that it booted into blank-screen-emergency-charge-mode" in such a short space of time is a real WTF though |
| 06:27.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: stopping and restarting bme quite usually results in completely bogus and too low battery charge indicator |
| 06:27.40 | jonwil | well I certainly did not do that |
| 06:27.44 | jonwil | stop or restart BME that is |
| 06:27.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | this however shouldn't result in shutdown and for sure not in emergency-charge |
| 06:29.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, batteries that are "original" (means, like 3 years old now) may actually wear out meanwhile |
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| 06:31.27 | jonwil | well if I see anything else wierd happening, I will dig deeper but for now it looks fine |
| 06:31.29 | jonwil | :) |
| 06:31.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200.sh 5 >>mybatlog.txt ;-) |
| 06:32.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 06:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200.sh 60 >>mybatlog.txt ;-) |
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| 06:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | *maybe* even a script in /etc/init.d/ (plus links to runlevels) doing "exec >>/var/log/batlog.txt; echo "######## `date` restarting #######"; /path/to/bq27200.sh 60" |
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| 06:42.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ |
| 06:43.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ |
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| 07:15.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw anybody used http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/start-hostmode ? |
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| 08:33.10 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: in theory, pali's usbmode does everything you might want, wrt host mode |
| 08:33.18 | kerio | with kp51r1 |
| 08:33.35 | kerio | but it requires the weird bq24k module |
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| 08:34.50 | kerio | i think it works fine for vboosting, though |
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| 08:54.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what? |
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| 08:54.33 | kerio | so why would i use that script? :) |
| 08:54.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe bacause it's been around since 6 months now? |
| 08:56.11 | kerio | k |
| 08:56.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe because you could debug and tweak it easily |
| 08:56.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | aand maybe because it does things pali's bq24150.ko definitely can't do |
| 08:57.19 | kerio | really? :o |
| 08:59.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | starting with the obvious fact it's a script and thus an "executable" |
| 09:00.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | so _my_script_ might use i2c-tools or alternatively bq24150.ko, but that wouldn't change the need of a script |
| 09:01.05 | chem|st | re |
| 09:01.09 | kerio | usbmode.sh is a shellscript too :) |
| 09:01.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey chem|st |
| 09:01.16 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: what could I? |
| 09:01.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
| 09:01.42 | chem|st | 10 days ago... |
| 09:01.49 | chem|st | was on vacation |
| 09:01.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc ;-) |
| 09:02.18 | chem|st | fine ;) |
| 09:02.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | my wetware recorder replays "nobody can do anything about it" "or could you, chem|st?" |
| 09:02.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably sth about tmo |
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| 09:04.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | heavy spamming or sth |
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| 09:09.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: hope you enjoyed your vacation |
| 09:10.01 | chem|st | I did indeed! |
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| 11:53.01 | JION_a | nokia ovi suite will not let me reflash my frim where from the ovi program from nokia what can i do? |
| 11:53.20 | JION_a | on the NOKIA N900 |
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| 11:53.53 | JION_a | i can not seem to lock on to wifi |
| 12:00.45 | andre__ | JION_a, what is a "frim"? |
| 12:01.05 | JION_a | frim ware |
| 12:01.18 | JION_a | os build |
| 12:03.37 | andre__ | firmware. |
| 12:03.52 | JION_a | firmware |
| 12:03.54 | JION_a | yes |
| 12:04.39 | andre__ | see https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware |
| 12:07.47 | JION_a | thanks |
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| 12:47.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~weather eddn |
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| 16:21.22 | Estel_ | freemangordon, ping |
| 16:21.34 | freemangordon | Estel_: pong |
| 16:22.09 | Estel_ | see query, pls |
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| 17:38.48 | Raimu | Did anyone ever write a n900 app for manipulating contacts on the SIM card? |
| 17:39.52 | Raimu | The stock apps can only import from SIM, and I searched tmo only to pick up some two ancient threads where the answer was "Nokia didn't write the app, needed to get the n900 out quick". |
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| 17:51.03 | kgu | ~cssu new release |
| 17:51.16 | kgu | ~cssu |
| 17:51.16 | infobot | somebody said cssu was http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 17:53.20 | kerio | Raimu: why bother? |
| 17:53.46 | kerio | it's going to be painful to make one that works |
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| 18:25.28 | Raimu | I was mainly curious. |
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| 18:34.51 | kgu | Is it possible to see a list somewhere of work in progress for next cssu release? |
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| 19:32.48 | merlin1991 | kgu: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu |
| 19:32.58 | merlin1991 | (if you're talking about -testing) |
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| 20:08.53 | DocScrutinizer06 | Raimu: see what pnsatd and AT commands can give you |
| 20:08.58 | DocScrutinizer06 | pnatd |
| 20:09.00 | DocScrutinizer06 | sorry |
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| 20:12.04 | DocScrutinizer06 | Raimu: sorry, forget it, modem doesn't support: |
| 20:12.08 | DocScrutinizer06 | at+cpbs=? |
| 20:12.09 | DocScrutinizer06 | ERROR |
| 20:12.11 | DocScrutinizer06 | at+cpbr=? |
| 20:12.12 | DocScrutinizer06 | ERROR |
| 20:14.32 | Raimu | :| |
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| 21:11.57 | DocScrutinizer06 | GAN950: ping |
| 21:12.55 | DocScrutinizer06 | Raimu: get a nice USB smartcard-reader, and H-E-N ;-) |
| 21:14.45 | Raimu | Or just dig up the old Symbian Nokia from my cupboard. |
| 21:14.52 | Raimu | Thanks for helping, Doc! |
| 21:16.32 | DocScrutinizer06 | YW, though my help was rather disappointing |
| 21:17.27 | DocScrutinizer06 | curses abyssmal sparse AT implementation in ISI/BB5 |
| 21:18.54 | DocScrutinizer06 | and even android suppliers were able to disclose their RIL implementations, Nokia was never willing to really disclose the ISI specs |
| 21:20.11 | DocScrutinizer06 | there's been that friggin docs you could access only after registering and somebody fingering your body appertures, but even that server is down since years now |
| 21:21.38 | DocScrutinizer06 | wirelessmodemapi |
| 21:21.59 | DocScrutinizer06 | another big hoax |
| 21:22.45 | DocScrutinizer06 | www.wirelessmodemapi.com |
| 21:24.06 | DocScrutinizer06 | probably somebody rooted the box 2 years ago, and nobody of the responsibles ever noticed nor did anything to fix the issue |
| 21:25.01 | DocScrutinizer06 | the future of maemo.org? |
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| 21:26.37 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer06: what is the future? |
| 21:27.04 | vldcnst | I'm having some issues with cutetube-qml (latest) and IPv6 - getting forbidden errors, anyone else encountered this? |
| 21:27.04 | DocScrutinizer06 | click on the link above, and you'll see? |
| 21:29.32 | DocScrutinizer06 | errr, there's some known issue with some lib |
| 21:29.36 | DocScrutinizer06 | ask merlin1991 |
| 21:29.40 | DocScrutinizer06 | or freemangordon |
| 21:30.31 | DocScrutinizer06 | dunno if it's related to your particular problem |
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| 21:31.36 | Estel_ | vi__, DocScrutinizer06 was probably reffering to discussion in maemo-ssu channel |
| 21:31.47 | DocScrutinizer06 | hmm? |
| 21:31.56 | DocScrutinizer06 | nope |
| 21:32.25 | DocScrutinizer06 | not directly at least |
| 21:32.29 | DocScrutinizer06 | maybe inspired |
| 21:35.00 | Estel_ | why you think wirelessmodeapi is future of maemo.org? 0_o |
| 21:36.25 | Estel_ | it's about "page not found"?:P |
| 21:43.34 | vldcnst | merlin1991, freemangordon: ping |
| 21:46.22 | vi__ | vldcnst: that and PR0NTUBE NO LONGER WORKS. |
| 21:47.42 | vldcnst | vi__: indeed |
| 21:48.00 | freemangordon | vldcnst: pong |
| 21:49.11 | vldcnst | freemangordon: getting HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden from youtube while trying to play a video with cutetube-qml (latest version) over IPv6, DocScrutinizer* mentioned that you may, I believe, be able to know something about this |
| 21:52.11 | freemangordon | vldcnst: WFM, I can bet it is again libcurl3, wait for next CSSU-T, it should be fixed there. |
| 21:55.01 | Estel_ | freemangordon, abusing Your presence here - could You, please, tell me what is current state of latest files for 720p video playback? |
| 21:55.11 | Estel_ | ages ago I asked about it in it's thread, without answer |
| 21:55.21 | vldcnst | freemangordon: do you have more info on the actual issue? |
| 21:55.21 | freemangordon | didn't check that |
| 21:55.35 | Estel_ | |I'm quite lost - You've mentione,d once, regressions with latest harmattan dsp libs, so I haven't updated |
| 21:55.38 | Estel_ | it was mooonths ago |
| 21:55.47 | Estel_ | how does it look now, which versions should be used? |
| 21:56.08 | Estel_ | ones from first post, or what? :) |
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| 21:56.45 | freemangordon | vldcnst: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12621 |
| 21:56.46 | povbot_ | 04Bug 12621: sharing-plugin-facebook stopped working |
| 21:57.07 | freemangordon | Estel_: you have some problem or what? |
| 21:57.26 | freemangordon | with current versions that is. |
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| 21:57.50 | Estel_ | hm, no, it's just that I'm not sure if I'm using correct version with lattest goddies :) Well, from time to time, it screws first video recordere, but no problem above that |
| 21:57.59 | Estel_ | (first as in first after rerboot) |
| 21:58.25 | vldcnst | freemangordon: not sure I follow that, you're saying libcurl connects to a IPv4 host instead of a IPv6? |
| 21:58.36 | Estel_ | it's jsut that I'm confused about current state - I remember You uploading new lib from harmattan, then, mentioning that it had some regressions (serious ones) |
| 21:58.41 | Estel_ | I just lost track |
| 21:59.00 | freemangordon | Estel_: anyway, once I finish REing touch keyboard I will return for a while to 720p. But don;t hold your breath :) |
| 21:59.17 | Estel_ | OK :) BTW, why? you lost interest in 720p? |
| 21:59.46 | Estel_ | so, current info and links in 1st post of 720p are absolutely up to date and contain latest thing one should install? |
| 22:00.11 | freemangordon | Estel_: because there are only 24x7 in a week and I cannot spend all of them programming for maemo ;) |
| 22:00.27 | freemangordon | Estel_: yes |
| 22:00.29 | Estel_ | You can, you're FMG! :P sure, no problem :) |
| 22:01.02 | freemangordon | vldcnst: read the IRC log, there is nothing I can add :) |
| 22:01.06 | Estel_ | don't forget, that i'm not demanding anything, and i'm very grateful for what You've done already :) |
| 22:01.28 | freemangordon | anyway, I need to take some rest, bb guys |
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| 23:47.05 | pavlz | hi |
| 23:47.36 | pavlz | i would like toknow if it's available x-term for android |
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| 23:53.33 | aidy | hi |
| 23:57.21 | aidy | I'm having some unmet dependency issues: http://pastebin.com/RGdFra4K |