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| 13:35.17 | sLumPia | which is the safer step to install nitdroid: |
| 13:35.23 | sLumPia | 1.install nitdroid then u-boot |
| 13:35.31 | sLumPia | 2.install u-boot then nitdroid? |
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| 13:43.44 | sLumPia | oops, i dont know #nitdroid exist |
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| 14:02.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 14:02.25 | infobot | i guess maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
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| 14:03.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | afaik nitdroid isn't compatible with uBoot (I wish the droid dudes had changed that meanwhile) |
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| 14:10.26 | kerio | multiboot, aka nand destroyer |
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| 14:36.06 | narcos | Hey all. My N900 has suddenly stopped recognizing my usb port |
| 14:36.29 | narcos | Such that, "ifconfig usb0 up" results in "siocsifaddr no such device" |
| 14:36.54 | narcos | Doing an lsmod | grep -i usb doesn't return any results |
| 14:37.57 | jacekowski | no usbnetworking then |
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| 15:03.13 | narcos | jacekowski: It doesn't charge over USB via PC either anymore |
| 15:03.23 | jacekowski | your usb port is gone |
| 15:03.31 | narcos | :( |
| 15:03.41 | narcos | Is this a common thing...? |
| 15:03.50 | jacekowski | very common |
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| 15:11.45 | narcos | jacekowski: Is there a fix, or that's it? |
| 15:12.08 | jacekowski | that's it |
| 15:12.11 | ZogG_laptop | narcos: do not use ti, carefull disassemble and fix it |
| 15:12.19 | jacekowski | well, depends on exactly what happened |
| 15:12.22 | ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: there is fix |
| 15:12.31 | ZogG_laptop | there 3 fixes |
| 15:12.32 | jacekowski | not if he lifted tracks off pcb |
| 15:12.39 | ZogG_laptop | one is you can still repair it |
| 15:12.46 | ZogG_laptop | 2 you can solder cables to mb |
| 15:12.46 | jacekowski | and that's most common |
| 15:12.55 | jacekowski | ZogG_laptop: you can't |
| 15:13.03 | jacekowski | there is nowhere to solder them to in most caes |
| 15:13.10 | ZogG_laptop | 3 you can use wireless charging batteries as i saw someone did on TMO |
| 15:13.16 | jacekowski | narcos: take it apart and see how badly damaged is it |
| 15:13.33 | jacekowski | narcos: there is slim chance that it can be repaired |
| 15:13.36 | jacekowski | narcos: very slim |
| 15:13.37 | ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: there is thread on TMO with instruction, so you do can. |
| 15:13.44 | jacekowski | ZogG_laptop: read that thread |
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| 15:14.39 | ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: let's say you can make it charging, without data |
| 15:14.48 | narcos | I can still charge from the wall socket though? |
| 15:15.37 | jacekowski | narcos: it needs data lines to charge |
| 15:15.54 | jacekowski | narcos: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54762&page=2 |
| 15:16.01 | jacekowski | narcos: but it all depends on how badly it is damaged |
| 15:16.08 | jacekowski | and what happened |
| 15:16.55 | narcos | ahhh |
| 15:16.56 | narcos | o |
| 15:16.59 | narcos | *ok |
| 15:17.24 | narcos | It's weird - it was working fine yesterday, but today it only charges from the wall socket, not via PC. |
| 15:17.33 | jacekowski | ahm |
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| 15:17.37 | jacekowski | that sort of thing |
| 15:17.47 | jacekowski | then it may be something else |
| 15:17.54 | jacekowski | restart your pc |
| 15:17.56 | jacekowski | and phone |
| 15:18.02 | jacekowski | and try different usb port on pc |
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| 15:18.06 | jacekowski | and different usb cable |
| 15:18.18 | jacekowski | i've seen usb ports in pcs just wear and fail |
| 15:19.02 | ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71414 i talked about that |
| 15:19.03 | narcos | I've tried turning it off and on, and on a different PC. |
| 15:19.20 | narcos | Also, when I plug it in via USB the pixels in the top left go a bit weird |
| 15:19.27 | narcos | (from PC) |
| 15:19.28 | ZogG_laptop | narcos: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920&highlight=soldering+battery all the info in one place with links to relevant threads |
| 15:19.40 | jacekowski | ZogG_laptop: that's rapuyama usb not main omap |
| 15:19.44 | ZogG_laptop | narcos: do not plug and unplug it |
| 15:20.07 | narcos | ZogG_laptop: why? |
| 15:20.16 | ZogG_laptop | narcos: i had problem with sometimes and working and sometimes not working, and i could fix |
| 15:20.32 | ZogG_laptop | but by playing with it i ripped it off at all, and made it worse |
| 15:22.00 | narcos | ah ok |
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| 15:24.13 | Pali | ~usbfix |
| 15:24.13 | infobot | somebody said usbfix was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 15:24.45 | Pali | narcos ^^^ |
| 15:24.49 | narcos | Pali: Ta |
| 15:33.11 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: i used expo after fiz and ruined it more :P |
| 15:40.27 | narcos | Well, I left the phone off for 20 mins, plugged it back in, and now it works |
| 15:40.47 | narcos | Ah, and quickly reports 'not charging, insufficient power' |
| 15:41.37 | narcos | but the usb0 interface is present |
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| 15:47.57 | Pali | narcos, usb0 (in n900) is present if kernel driver g_nokia is loaded |
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| 15:48.09 | Pali | or kernel driver g_ether |
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| 15:51.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | reflash! |
| 15:52.29 | kerio | reflash! reflash! reflash! |
| 15:52.41 | kerio | and then bmrestore? idk |
| 15:53.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | why? to restore the fuckup? |
| 15:53.49 | kerio | bmrestore an old backup :) |
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| 15:54.06 | kerio | i think i only have latest and second latest, though |
| 15:54.08 | kerio | :/ |
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| 16:07.23 | kerio | holy shit |
| 16:07.29 | kerio | i just removed my otter box |
| 16:07.36 | kerio | i didn't know the n900 was so tiny |
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| 16:48.14 | narcos | So, after disassembling my N900 - should I notice that the USB port is loose? |
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| 17:13.22 | teotwaki | depends on your sexual orientation, I guess. |
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| 18:31.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: why would you disassemble your device? |
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| 18:38.31 | Estel_ | freemangordon, zeq1, lame question - how to properly install fennec add-ons in N900's version? |
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| 18:39.27 | zeq1 | Estel_: you should be able to use the settings screen available from the left control panel |
| 18:39.35 | zeq1 | sorry I mean right* |
| 18:39.37 | Estel_ | trying to do it "holy way" result in "can't open file, tap to download". Not to mention that @[])@) fennec doesn't ask where to download, nor tells me where it did - can't find any settings for that too, at least without searching in about: |
| 18:39.58 | Estel_ | zeq1, sure, I am, to the point where I decide to install anything |
| 18:40.30 | Estel_ | of course I'm using your thumb version |
| 18:40.35 | zeq1 | I'm not sure what add-ons are compatible |
| 18:40.44 | zeq1 | I haven't tried any |
| 18:40.55 | Estel_ | I'm trying fennec ones |
| 18:41.07 | zeq1 | actually, I think I did... |
| 18:41.12 | zeq1 | I don't remember |
| 18:41.18 | Estel_ | i.e. marked as compatible with fennec, exclusively. I remember it worked on ancient non-thumb versions for N900 |
| 18:41.45 | Estel_ | well, maybe itms because Maemo as system doesnmt know how to handle those .xpi (or something) extension filea |
| 18:41.53 | Estel_ | s/filea/files/ |
| 18:42.12 | Estel_ | and fennec somehow catches it, and display own "can't open" pop-up? |
| 18:42.51 | Estel_ | in such case, some kinf of manual install should work. Chromium in Easy Debian require unpacking extension and manual installation, no idea how to do it in Fennec |
| 18:43.11 | zeq1 | Estel_: it should work as long as you have a compatible add-on version |
| 18:43.28 | Estel_ | but, but, it doesn't even try to install it or open |
| 18:43.46 | zeq1 | I'm pretty sure I got that far |
| 18:43.59 | Estel_ | it just says that it can't open it, before actually trying. Maybe it works only, when You select add-on from Fennec menu - i.e. from few first results... |
| 18:44.17 | Estel_ | but doesn't work if You select "show all xxx results" that open web-page with addons? |
| 18:44.22 | zeq1 | yes, I'm pretty sure you have to do it through the install add-on screen |
| 18:45.11 | Estel_ | hm, so need to tune my keywords for search to force it into showing me desired result amongst first few. Thanks |
| 18:45.32 | Estel_ | and that thing about downloaded files location? any idea how to make it ask me where to save? |
| 18:46.21 | zeq1 | good question nfc |
| 18:47.29 | Estel_ | thanks, nevertheless :) I also have nfc about where it saves it automaticaly (will abuse find) |
| 18:48.19 | Estel_ | fennec still amazes me, when it comes to lack of basic funcionalities. Thanks a lot for fixing this bastard, guys :) |
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| 19:07.24 | Estel_ | freemangordon, zeq, fennec segfaulting 100% times, when I change language from settings (from "auto" to "english"): |
| 19:07.25 | Estel_ | http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3d018112f9a5d25f#TXNXGjjUdX6bPZF6TMLETIXWbiZAJ6cfKvZ18pXbCL8= |
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| 20:24.41 | narcos | DocScrutinizer: You missed my previous convo, where I was advised to do so :) |
| 20:24.51 | narcos | Anyway, solved my problem, bought a new N900 on ebay :P |
| 20:28.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, you missed my concise conclusion from all that and advise to you: reflash! |
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| 20:30.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | the advise to disassemble N900 was done lightheaded, and no proper analysis of error pattern justified that advise |
| 20:31.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/vise/vice/g |
| 20:32.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually your statement that charging from wallcharger still works kinda gives strong indications that you don't suffer from any hw problem |
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| 20:44.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | (or your hw problem is actually not fixable, since it would be a broken musb-core then, since USB receptacle and PHY have to be ok for charging from wallcharger) |
| 20:46.27 | javispedro | hiya DocScrutinizer05 |
| 20:46.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi javispedro |
| 20:48.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: anyway, I'd love to buy your broken N900 ;-) |
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| 20:48.50 | kerio | i'll pay whatever DocScrutinizer05 pays plus 0.01€ |
| 20:50.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't trust kerio! |
| 20:50.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | he'll not act according to his words |
| 20:50.57 | kerio | lies! |
| 20:51.10 | javispedro | he'll pay 0.005 instead of 0.01 |
| 20:51.18 | kerio | it would still be convenient, mind you |
| 20:51.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, how's that? narcos, 600EUR |
| 20:51.50 | javispedro | O.o |
| 20:51.59 | kerio | i'll pay whatever DocScrutinizer05 *pays* |
| 20:52.02 | javispedro | I sell! I sell! |
| 20:52.20 | kerio | javispedro: woosh? |
| 20:52.29 | javispedro | whooo $.$ ssshh |
| 20:52.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: I'm waiting for kerio either to offer 600.01 or admit he's not honest |
| 20:53.26 | kerio | if i admitted i'm not honest, would i be honest? |
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| 20:53.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | no worries, you stay a dishonest dude |
| 20:53.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 20:55.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless I see narcos confirming a payment of 600.01EUR from you |
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| 20:57.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly ponders to sell a proper true diagnostics tool via OVI store or similar web based shop - rather than bantering kerio |
| 20:58.30 | narcos | DocScrutinizer: Sorry, I feel like we're having a lagged convo here :) Didn't notice your reflash comment - think that's all I need? |
| 20:58.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably |
| 20:59.01 | narcos | DocScrutinizer: Actually I'd already ordered the second N900 - by chance it arrived an hour after my existing one broke |
| 20:59.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, more likely than a hw fix to USB port |
| 20:59.39 | Sicelo | someone's selling an N900 on tmo. US$100. /me is tempted |
| 20:59.42 | narcos | So, kerio will buy it for EUR600,01? :) |
| 21:00.05 | kerio | no, i said i'd pay 0.01 more than DocScrutinizer05 *paid* |
| 21:00.07 | narcos | DocScrutinizer: Yeah I wasn't too convinced on the HW - physically it looked intact |
| 21:00.09 | kerio | i'm waiting for him to pay |
| 21:00.13 | narcos | heh, k |
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| 21:00.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | hahaha |
| 21:00.30 | narcos | emails DocScrutinizer PayPal details |
| 21:01.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never claimed *I* am honest. I just proved kerio isn't |
| 21:01.19 | narcos | Not sure where you guys live - but I get N900's for between ?70 and ?100 on eBay. |
| 21:01.36 | Sicelo | what currency is that? |
| 21:01.43 | narcos | Great British Pounds |
| 21:02.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds about right, for refurbished ones |
| 21:02.05 | kerio | woah, mojibake |
| 21:02.07 | Sicelo | ah.. weird that my N900 doesn't show those characters :/ |
| 21:02.11 | kerio | narcos: lrn2utf8 |
| 21:02.21 | kerio | £ <- gbp |
| 21:02.23 | narcos | Sicelo: You're hanging out on IRC via your N900? |
| 21:02.25 | Sicelo | £ |
| 21:02.32 | kerio | ? <- weird shit with broken encoding |
| 21:02.41 | kerio | narcos: sure, i do that all the time |
| 21:02.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ü? = ? |
| 21:02.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | err -Ü |
| 21:03.11 | Sicelo | narcos: yes. i'm on N900. irssi running on a remote shell |
| 21:03.20 | narcos | kerio: You must have nimble fingers :) |
| 21:03.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | who's not? |
| 21:03.31 | narcos | ah right - I do screen + irssi too |
| 21:03.42 | kerio | meh, i prefer xchat |
| 21:03.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol |
| 21:03.46 | kerio | (with a bouncer, obviously) |
| 21:03.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | xchat FTW |
| 21:03.57 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: lol |
| 21:03.59 | narcos | boucner, as in random proxy? |
| 21:04.13 | narcos | uses xchat for quick chats, and irssii+screen for long term ;) |
| 21:04.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | as in ZNC |
| 21:04.24 | kerio | bouncer as in ZNC, yes :) |
| 21:04.30 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: ctcp version gave it away? |
| 21:04.31 | Sicelo | has xchat on the N900 too, but my connectivity sucks bad. shell is only way, i guess |
| 21:04.44 | kerio | weird, ctcp version apparently goes to my current client |
| 21:04.46 | Sicelo | and i never liked znc :\ |
| 21:04.53 | kerio | znc is the shit |
| 21:05.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, what's better? |
| 21:05.49 | Sicelo | i guess on a 'crippled' free shell, where you have a limit to how many znc users you're allowed to have .. irssi wins |
| 21:06.02 | kerio | i'm using a friend's dual-core server |
| 21:06.13 | Sicelo | if you have no limits, znc should be fine |
| 21:07.33 | narcos | D'damn at Jaws followed by Rock III. Epic night for background TV. |
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| 21:07.40 | narcos | *Rocky |
| 21:07.52 | vi__ | freemangordon: ping? |
| 21:08.00 | kerio | Sicelo: i just don't get why znc would be worse than irssi in that same situation |
| 21:10.00 | narcos | Sicelo: ??? ??? ??? m?? |
| 21:10.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: znc is transparent to ctcp-version |
| 21:10.10 | Sicelo | znc needs a separate user for each network you connect to so, if you have a limit to how many users you are allowed, that's automatically a limit to how many networks you can be on |
| 21:10.14 | narcos | (that joke took far too long to construct) |
| 21:10.20 | kerio | Sicelo: oh, i see |
| 21:10.25 | kerio | meh, i'm only on freenode anyway |
| 21:11.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: oh? |
| 21:11.05 | Sicelo | i'm on 6 networks :P |
| 21:11.47 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: a znc user is a bunch of server addresses and a channel list |
| 21:12.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think you easily could run 6 instances of ZNC under same user account, if not even znc itself can handle multiple networks now |
| 21:12.15 | kerio | if you want to connect to multiple irc networks, you need multiple znc users |
| 21:12.29 | GeneralAntilles | Not with the latest versions. |
| 21:12.30 | kerio | yeah but he's talking about lame free irc bouncers on the internet that steal your password |
| 21:12.35 | kerio | GeneralAntilles: really? neat |
| 21:12.50 | Sicelo | yeah, new version is better |
| 21:13.25 | kerio | meh, i cba to recompile it |
| 21:13.34 | kerio | flood protection *is* neat though |
| 21:13.42 | kerio | it would allow me to start using stickychan again |
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| 21:14.13 | narcos | Do IRC bouncers support SSL? |
| 21:14.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 21:14.33 | kerio | narcos: meh |
| 21:14.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | znc at least does |
| 21:14.41 | kerio | use a ssh tunnel |
| 21:15.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | free irc bouncer? LOL |
| 21:16.08 | narcos | IRC bouncers stealing passwords - makes me think of ToR exit nodes running sslstrip and dsniff |
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| 21:17.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq!! |
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| 21:18.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
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| 21:21.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | now who ran a DoS against me? |
| 21:21.34 | Sicelo | possibly narcos :P |
| 21:22.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird |
| 21:23.27 | narcos | Oi :P |
| 21:23.49 | narcos | uses his botnets for good. |
| 21:24.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | how would that allow you to let freenode server silently drop my connection? |
| 21:25.03 | narcos | Clear evidence it wasn't me. |
| 21:25.37 | nox- | * DocScrutinizer05 has quit (Disconnected by services) |
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| 21:25.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | BY SERVICES?????????? DAFAQ! |
| 21:26.25 | narcos | :-| |
| 21:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | free irc bouncer? LOL |
| 21:28.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey, kerio got disconnected from his znc? |
| 21:29.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | nox-: was that related to any other activity? |
| 21:29.43 | nox- | i still see him |
| 21:29.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-16 23:27:32] [CTCP] CTCP-VERSION-Antwort von kerio empfangen: ZNC 0.206 - http://znc.in. |
| 21:30.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-16 23:09:30] [CTCP] CTCP-VERSION-Antwort von kerio empfangen: X-Chat Aqua appstore-1.11.6-0-g0e7e6b7 (xchat 2.8.8-svn1511) Darwin 10.8.0 [i386/2.80GHz/SMP]. |
| 21:30.32 | nox- | i have no idea... |
| 21:30.36 | nox- | about other activities |
| 21:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders what might have upset services-bot |
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| 21:34.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | anybody recalls what's the name of that services bot in here? |
| 21:34.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: ^^^ |
| 21:35.34 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, the what now? |
| 21:36.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | the spy bot of freenet that sits in several chans and monitors for e.g. crossposts |
| 21:36.10 | GeneralAntilles | Oh, dunno. |
| 21:36.31 | narcos | http://freenode.net/utilities.shtml says "eir" |
| 21:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 21:36.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks |
| 21:38.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd pester #freenode staff if I wasn't that lazy |
| 21:38.49 | narcos | heh |
| 21:39.03 | narcos | Anyone have a Raspberry PI yet? |
| 21:39.51 | narcos | Mine arrived last week - just finished writing Linux to an SD card. Time to tinker. |
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| 22:10.24 | narcos | Does anyone plug their N900 into a Mac? OSX seems to create a new network interface for the usb connection each time. Very annoying. |
| 22:11.07 | narcos | narcos: lmgtfy |
| 22:11.10 | narcos | "By default, the N900 sets a random MAC address for the USB interface every time you reboot. This makes some operating systems (Mac OS X) detect a new device whenever you connect the N900 and ask you to configure the network interface." |
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| 22:33.04 | freemangordon | vi: pong |
| 22:34.30 | ZogG_laptop | slowpong |
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| 23:18.44 | narcos | 00h18 - that point when TV adverts turn into "Call me for a seksi time" |
| 23:19.14 | narcos | (http://9gag.com/gag/1448501 sums my TV usage up) |
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| 23:50.58 | narcos | So, wlan injection drivers |
| 23:51.11 | narcos | I've downloaded http://david.gnedt.eu/blog/wl1251/ |
| 23:51.23 | narcos | But when I try load the drivers, I get this: |
| 23:51.33 | narcos | Nokia-N900:~/wl1251-maemo# insmod compat.ko |
| 23:51.34 | narcos | insmod: error inserting 'compat.ko': -1 Invalid module format |
| 23:51.53 | narcos | That worked on my N900 that blew up earlier.... |
| 23:58.38 | robbiethe1st | Make sure your kernel is the right one for the module |