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| 00:40.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: wtf is this: http://www.totobay.com/original-uem-ic-for-nokia-x3-x6-7230-n900-e72-4376047_p25848.html |
| 00:48.59 | robbiethe1st | Charger chip/DC converter , apparently |
| 00:49.45 | robbiethe1st | also, looks like it has something to do with storing the IMEI number |
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| 01:08.40 | Creteil | freemangordon, are you up ? |
| 01:10.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: huh? well when it's charger chip it should probably be bq24150(a) |
| 01:10.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: but how's that related to IMEI? |
| 01:12.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only those ***** in China would be able to read the chip name from one of the chips. Is this really THAT hard to google for those three lines of 7987saf97987 |
| 01:13.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd do it if only I could read anything in that crappy photo they provide |
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| 01:20.45 | RST38h | yawns |
| 01:21.00 | RST38h | Hey, Doc, how is suffering tonight? |
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| 01:28.30 | jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: does this help? http://szedtech.en.alibaba.com/viewimg/picture.html?picture=http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v1/51517839/Mobile_Phone_ic_chip_for_371_Uem.jpg |
| 01:28.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | N2200 |
| 01:29.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka GAZOO, the GAIA of BB5 |
| 01:31.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: just as usual ;-D |
| 01:32.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: alas not, it seems this chip is not the same as in http://www.totobay.com/original-uem-ic-for-nokia-x3-x6-7230-n900-e72-4376047_p25848.html |
| 01:32.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: thanks anyway |
| 01:33.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 01:34.14 | jpinx | np - I was borwsing for something else and came across it. I'm looking for a solution for a chinese Nokia C6 dualsim phone |
| 01:34.52 | jpinx | charging issues again ;) |
| 01:35.42 | jpinx | not c6 - brainfart - it's a C3-00 |
| 01:35.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway robbiethe1st was obviously right, just wonder how he managed that so fast |
| 01:36.27 | jpinx | not called ...thefirst without reason ;) |
| 01:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm still musing about that comment regarding IMEI - might actually be possible |
| 01:42.48 | robbiethe1st | DocScrutinizer, Google |
| 01:42.52 | robbiethe1st | My extended brain. |
| 01:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | amazing how you find such detail from a TLA |
| 01:46.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess UEM will yield ~4 billion hits |
| 01:47.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | or is the chip label actually in the URL :-O |
| 01:47.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq indeed, 4376047 |
| 01:48.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I can't confirm the IMEI stuff |
| 01:49.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has just the SIM interface |
| 01:49.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | no real indication anything beyond that regarding logic is in that chip |
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| 01:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that it was impossible |
| 01:51.54 | robbiethe1st | Actually, all I found was a reference to replacing the chip to change your IMEI number |
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| 02:00.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | DUH |
| 02:00.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | link? |
| 02:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I just found out that gibberish in second line on the chip actually reads "GAZOO346" or maybe G |
| 02:01.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | instead the trailing 6 |
| 02:01.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | or 0 |
| 02:02.13 | LaoLang_cool | I should not try nemo, it has broken my sd card :( |
| 02:02.18 | LaoLang_cool | just 1 hr's tring |
| 02:02.22 | LaoLang_cool | trying |
| 02:02.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 02:03.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's indeed a known bug in MMC driver that has potential to kill some specific brand/build of uSD |
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| 02:04.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | thought they should've included it in nemo since ages |
| 02:04.54 | LaoLang_cool | I should install nemo in emmc, not in sd card |
| 02:08.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should NOT risk the hard-to-replace eMMC. Better get a decent uSD |
| 02:08.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | other than killing uSD, how's nemo now? |
| 02:10.12 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer05, what is uSD? |
| 02:10.17 | robbiethe1st | micro SD |
| 02:10.22 | LaoLang_cool | oh |
| 02:10.28 | robbiethe1st | And with an 8GB card around $10-15... |
| 02:10.32 | robbiethe1st | cheap. |
| 02:13.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | <robbiethe1st> Actually, all I found was a reference to replacing the chip to change your IMEI number)) I guess that's been a russian site, since I seem to have checked all english refs to 4376047 |
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| 02:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I can't hrok is how this GAZOO power regulator is doing its job without a single choke |
| 02:23.23 | robbiethe1st | DocScrutinizer, http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-111133.html was what I found - googled for "UEM ic" |
| 02:23.33 | robbiethe1st | Also, GAZOO power regulator? ?? |
| 02:23.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I gathered, yes |
| 02:24.07 | robbiethe1st | Could it be a built-in one? |
| 02:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems it's more like power amp or whatever |
| 02:24.30 | robbiethe1st | Either that, or just one attached to the circuit outside like usual? |
| 02:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | it does battery monitor/management/charging (though latter disabled), it has a 32kHz crystal, it does audio (though again mostly disabled ?), and I see TXData |
| 02:26.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | and a lot to VAPAUS whatever that is |
| 02:27.19 | robbiethe1st | huh |
| 02:27.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vbat(vibra|ana|digi|SIM|LED...) |
| 02:30.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | VAPAUS is the RF power amp |
| 02:31.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually the synthesis |
| 02:31.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | and AURA is the DC/DC converter |
| 02:32.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it's quite unclear what this monsterchip does in the end |
| 02:34.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway it does TXC(ontrol?) and AFC for VAPAUS |
| 02:52.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty much 3/4 of GAZOO functions are unused and NotConnected. Nevertheless this chip *might* be responsible for the notorious GSM breakdown failure ("No SIM") |
| 02:53.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: GAZOO _controls_ the power regulators, resp provides reference voltages |
| 02:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's quite funny we use ~20% of the audio amps that are hanging around here and there in N900 |
| 02:57.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd already bet GAZOO has not only kbd interface like GAIA, but maybe actually even LCD interface too - of course all unused (vibra, LED, ¿kbd?, ¿display?, ear-audio, PMA[udio]) |
| 02:58.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: swap GAZOO for trying to fix GSM-failure "No SIM" ? ^^^ |
| 02:58.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: ^^^ |
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| 06:59.52 | psychologe | hello ,has a question,i install power-kernel51 and batterypatch,set minfreq=125 maxfreq=805,,when my phone standby,i use conky view ,the CPU frequency sometime 125,sometime 805,,,how let N900 standby on 125Mhz always? |
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| 08:59.39 | infobot | pali <~pali@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 5d 1h 44m 14s ago, saying: 'jonwil has some more info about format'. |
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| 13:12.54 | ShadowJK | standby is usually 0MHz, zero. But sometimes just running conky bumps frequency to max for the short duration when conky is collecting data |
| 13:14.05 | ShadowJK | It would be more sensible for such apps to look at the long term statistics instead of current instantaneous frequency |
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| 13:19.15 | Hurrian | ShadowJK, but ondemand ramps CPU to highest OPP usable when any load appears |
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| 13:22.03 | ShadowJK | that's what I said? :P |
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| 13:40.53 | Lava_Croft | I dont know whats up withe MWKN |
| 13:41.02 | Lava_Croft | But clicking the links in Google Reader brings up a login window |
| 13:41.08 | Lava_Croft | A bit odd |
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| 14:07.09 | Wizzup_ | What browser do you guys use on the n900? |
| 14:08.40 | kerio | microb |
| 14:09.27 | Wizzup_ | I used to use fennec, but it was just too slow, and opera seems to do quite well |
| 14:09.44 | Wizzup_ | just wondering if there were better browsers out there |
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| 14:37.38 | narcos | Hi all. Could someone give me advice getting the ISC dhcrelay on my N900? |
| 14:43.22 | narcos | It comes with the package dhcp3-relay on other systems |
| 14:51.04 | merlin1991 | why do you need a dhcp relay? but in general, if it doesn't exist already in extras (-devel) grab the source and build it |
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| 14:53.48 | narcos | merlin1991: Setting n900 up as a hotspot, and want to relay dhcp requests to another server. |
| 14:54.01 | narcos | merlin1991: To add the -devel repo, should I add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list : |
| 14:54.19 | narcos | deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free |
| 14:54.19 | narcos | ? |
| 14:54.23 | merlin1991 | to add -devel properly add it inside hildon application manager |
| 14:54.32 | merlin1991 | but the lines are right |
| 14:55.22 | merlin1991 | though there is no dhcp3-relay package in extras-devel |
| 14:55.33 | narcos | ahhhh |
| 14:55.46 | narcos | So, grab source and compile, you say? |
| 14:55.59 | merlin1991 | but when you do a hotspot you could ie route the traffic through the n900 using masquerade in postrouting and just run your own dhcp server on the n900 with dnsmasq |
| 14:56.25 | merlin1991 | or use one of the tools in extras like qt-mobilehotspot that does all that for you |
| 14:56.54 | narcos | I don't think it can act as a dhcp-relay |
| 14:57.12 | merlin1991 | why do you need the dhcp relay for a hotspot usecase? |
| 14:57.34 | merlin1991 | internet <> n900 (masquerading everthing behind <> hotspot clients |
| 14:57.48 | narcos | I want to relay DHCP requests to another server. |
| 14:58.04 | merlin1991 | the question is not what but *why* :D |
| 14:58.28 | narcos | merlin1991: I'm using multiple maemo devices like so: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XFKd0RWC |
| 14:58.56 | narcos | If I want to monitor traffic on the server to a level of IP address:traffic, I need to know which IP belongs to which MAC |
| 14:59.05 | narcos | If I handle DHCP on the AP, I can't easily do that |
| 15:00.16 | merlin1991 | oh now I know why, you need valid addreses after the ap |
| 15:00.53 | merlin1991 | well in this case grab the debian source (should be closest to maemo) and build it in scratchbox |
| 15:01.53 | narcos | Ah, scratchbox, I meddled with that a while back, and didn't get very far |
| 15:02.18 | merlin1991 | you can ask me about scratchbox when you run into problems :) |
| 15:02.34 | narcos | heh, ok, thanks :) |
| 15:06.28 | narcos | merlin1991: Another q - dnsmasq seems to be running on my device, and each time I kill its process it restarts. Any idea how to track down what's restarting it? |
| 15:08.28 | merlin1991 | probably dsme |
| 15:08.38 | merlin1991 | narcos: dnsmasq is always running on a n900 |
| 15:08.44 | merlin1991 | check your resolv.conf ;) |
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| 15:09.39 | narcos | Er, I've already butchered my resolv.conf to suite my purposes :) |
| 15:09.55 | narcos | merlin1991: How can I stop it, or edit the config? |
| 15:10.24 | narcos | merlin1991: I'm trying to setup dhcp server with it via: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58213 |
| 15:10.48 | narcos | i.e., I don't currently have the stomach for compiling code in scratchbox - I'm going to run a local dhcp server and upload lease files |
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| 15:14.30 | merlin1991 | phew, no idea who exactly starts dnsmasq, you'd have to check the init scripts, but I bet it's started via dsmetool somewehre |
| 15:16.00 | narcos | Hmm ok, lemme dig around |
| 15:19.23 | narcos | k sorted, problem was PEBKAC |
| 15:19.46 | merlin1991 | PEBKAC? |
| 15:20.11 | narcos | Problem Existed Between Keyboard and Chair |
| 15:20.13 | narcos | i.e. me |
| 15:20.33 | merlin1991 | ah :D |
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| 15:21.35 | narcos | Hmm, dnsmasq hands out IPs, but /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases is empty |
| 15:23.58 | vi_ | ~seen your anus |
| 15:24.07 | infobot | vi_: i haven't seen 'your anus' |
| 15:24.14 | vi_ | lol |
| 15:24.15 | narcos | LOL |
| 15:24.51 | narcos | ~seen anything'. But thanks for asking, moron. |
| 15:24.52 | infobot | narcos: i haven't seen 'anything'. but thanks for asking, moron.' |
| 15:25.04 | narcos | Poort attempt at sqli |
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| 15:57.40 | Shapeshifter | jeez some stock features on the n900 are just terrible |
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| 15:58.41 | narcos | Hmm, where is the PATH variable defined on maemo |
| 16:00.13 | narcos | .profile |
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| 16:38.20 | Lava_Croft | Shapeshifter: such as? :D |
| 16:43.24 | Shapeshifter | Lava_Croft: the backup tool can't stop, it will just sit there for half an hour when you press stop on a long backup. of course, meanwhile it will run out of space on /home. Of course, modest, too, terrible mail client, but we all know that. |
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| 16:43.56 | Lava_Croft | dont use the backup tool |
| 16:43.58 | kerio | the backup tool is not to be used, really |
| 16:44.00 | Lava_Croft | use backupmenu |
| 16:44.08 | Lava_Croft | and modest, well |
| 16:44.11 | kerio | backupmenu has DAMMIT Lava_Croft |
| 16:44.12 | Lava_Croft | its modestly horrible |
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| 17:19.53 | njsf | Anyone knows how to stop the "low battery" reboot loop on the N900 |
| 17:19.54 | njsf | ? |
| 17:20.21 | njsf | I have it plugged for almost a day now looping on reboot after the battery was drained |
| 17:20.52 | njsf | Plugged on the wall adapter mind you, not usb cable |
| 17:23.16 | ShadowJK | Considering the number of such cases lately, and the average of N900s now, I'm starting to suspect it can't cope with aged batteries |
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| 17:31.51 | SpeedEvil | old batteries can cause weird problems. |
| 17:32.18 | SpeedEvil | and batteries bought at device purchase time will be old now. |
| 17:37.01 | luke-jr | njsf: same problem here |
| 17:37.07 | luke-jr | SpeedEvil: even if the device wasn't used? |
| 17:37.11 | ShadowJK | yeah, all my originals reached my own "junk" threshold in year and half or so |
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| 17:37.23 | luke-jr | SpeedEvil: I replaced mine with a "I got an iPhone so I never used my N900" battery |
| 17:37.29 | luke-jr | and it still does weird crap |
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| 17:38.07 | ShadowJK | unused device with battery installed probably would reach my own "junk" threshold in 6 months or less |
| 17:38.36 | luke-jr | ouch, really? |
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| 17:39.12 | luke-jr | is this Mugen extended battery trustworthy? |
| 17:40.47 | SpeedEvil | I have a 3yo battery which is in near new condition. |
| 17:40.49 | Woody14619 | ShadowJK: For future reference, anytime anyone sees 125Mhz these days, 99.9% chance they are running batterypatch/speedpatch. It forces over/under clock. |
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| 17:41.18 | SpeedEvil | but it has been charged to 40% and in the freezer for most of that |
| 17:41.31 | Woody14619 | The only way to get that is by installing one of Titan's old kernels, by hand-tweeking it yourself with KP, or installing crap-patches. |
| 17:42.53 | Woody14619 | luke-jr, if you're battery shopping, there's a good thread on TMO with links to the best places. |
| 17:43.37 | ShadowJK | luke-jr; no |
| 17:43.54 | Wizzup_ | conred: where did you get fennec 17 from? I didn't know there were recent n900 builds |
| 17:44.16 | ShadowJK | luke-jr; it's pointless |
| 17:44.22 | ShadowJK | well the 2400mAh one is indeed 2400, but people consider it expensive |
| 17:44.46 | luke-jr | ShadowJK: well, I was thinking I need a new battery door anyway.. |
| 17:44.55 | luke-jr | the original "latches" break off too easily |
| 17:45.17 | Woody14619 | Well, Mugen is the largest commercially produced battery for the N900. And the new back is actually kind of nice. |
| 17:45.37 | conred | Wizzup_:fennec 17 is in the thumb repository, check the cssu-thumb thread at tmo |
| 17:45.47 | Woody14619 | But you can make a dual-scud for half the price and just order a cover on your own most times. :) |
| 17:46.03 | ShadowJK | japod from dealextrem that I got turned out to be 1440 mAh |
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| 17:46.32 | Woody14619 | nods... Mine was too. That's what I use in my day to day. |
| 17:46.44 | luke-jr | I can't find a TMO thread on batteries |
| 17:46.51 | Woody14619 | on sec. |
| 17:46.56 | luke-jr | ShadowJK: so the 2400 Mugen should work reasonably? |
| 17:46.58 | ShadowJK | i think they've (mugen) gotten alot stricter about people ordering just the cover |
| 17:47.12 | Woody14619 | luke-jr: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 |
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| 17:47.36 | ShadowJK | I had to adjust the pins on mine slightly with a needle |
| 17:48.00 | Woody14619 | luke-jr: My understanding is that the battery is ok, just way over priced. May be worth it to get the custom cover legitly though... |
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| 17:48.25 | conred | Wizzup_: talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84829 |
| 17:48.37 | Wizzup_ | I am looking at that atm, I didn't know about this |
| 17:49.28 | luke-jr | Woody14619: considering I paid only $200 for a like-new N900 (but apparently dud battery), $100 for a good battery doesn't seem too unreasonable |
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| 17:51.07 | Woody14619 | True. Let me guess, from ebay/China "cellphoneforever"? Picked up a second N900 from there a bit ago myself to help with testing. Turned into the day to day for my SO in a week though. ;) |
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| 17:51.09 | luke-jr | otoh, seeing some of these "mere replacements" for $7… |
| 17:51.16 | luke-jr | Woody14619: no, CraigsList |
| 17:51.28 | Wizzup_ | conred: That is pretty awesome! I should probably try that in a bit |
| 17:51.38 | luke-jr | Woody14619: I picked it up in person with cash :P |
| 17:52.15 | Woody14619 | Oh... Nice... Probably better off from there. The ebay ones are refurbs, but frankly not in bad condition most times. But it can be a craps shoot. |
| 17:52.28 | Wizzup_ | conred: ah, and the robots.txt has disallow all, that's why I didn't find it via google |
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| 18:30.15 | Lava_Croft | mugen cover lacks a camera lens hatch |
| 18:30.33 | Lava_Croft | i have one too, i dont use it |
| 18:30.43 | Lava_Croft | i just carry around 4 BL5J's |
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| 18:39.25 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: is this the latest script to find charging current? http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail2 |
| 18:39.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, I hope so |
| 18:41.35 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: what is the charging current, http://pastie.org/4413436 ? |
| 18:41.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | trumee: please use http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2 |
| 18:43.09 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: here you go, http://pastie.org/4413449 |
| 18:43.36 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: AI Average Current High is what i should be reading? |
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| 18:44.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | trumee: why you do that cmdline magic? IIRC I wrote bq27k-detail2 to avoid any need for that |
| 18:44.52 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: ah, i was only following the wiki |
| 18:45.29 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: ok last time, http://pastie.org/4413464 |
| 18:46.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | do those differ? |
| 18:46.30 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: AI Average current high reports less than 450mA. I was hoping to get a bigger number connected to the wall charger |
| 18:46.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think all should be identical, and yes, iirc it's AI that shows current current |
| 18:46.40 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: dont think they do. |
| 18:47.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | which wiki? |
| 18:47.17 | trumee | guess, i should let the battery deplete considerably before testing |
| 18:47.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | URL please, so I can fix that |
| 18:47.40 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: nope, i read the wiki wrong! |
| 18:49.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | for an constant reading/monitoring of just current, I recommend to use shadowjk's script, e.g found here: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27200.sh |
| 18:49.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | less confusing output |
| 18:49.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200.sh 5 |
| 18:51.33 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 18:52.47 | njsf | I wished that the N900 could just run without battery but plugged in *sigh* |
| 18:53.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: luke-jr: (mugen) or you don't use just 2 scud piggybacked one on the other, and instead *really* use the additional space gained by custom backcover: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20120715_003.jpg |
| 18:53.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | njsf: your bootloop? |
| 18:53.51 | njsf | yes |
| 18:54.02 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: O.o? |
| 18:54.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | njsf: bootloops *never* charge battery, they ruin it |
| 18:54.22 | luke-jr | don't you need the custom backcover to do that ? :P |
| 18:54.52 | njsf | DocScrutinizer05: so I'm SOL or is there a well know way to stop the loop ? |
| 18:54.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | and instead *really* use the additional space gained by custom backcover: |
| 18:56.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | njsf: when your rootfs is defect and thus bootloops, then you should get an external charger, charge your battery, then reflash |
| 18:56.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | njsf: when your battery causes bootloop, then get a new battery. Yours is worn out |
| 18:57.31 | njsf | ok. I guess I am getting a new battery AND an external charger.. |
| 18:57.48 | Woody14619 | Interesting shot Doc, but where did the antennas go? |
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| 18:57.53 | njsf | this would have to be a 5800 charger right ? |
| 18:58.27 | Woody14619 | AFAIK the GPS and GSM antennas are in the areas above and to the right of the battery (which that custom mod pic would seem to have removed) |
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| 19:00.55 | Woody14619 | DocScrutinizer05: Because of you can remove those areas while still having those services, that's great. But I susspect this mod removes (or at least relocates) those to make space. |
| 19:01.06 | Woody14619 | s/of/if/ |
| 19:02.13 | njsf | Seems like SCUD blue dream is no longer available at aliexpress |
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| 19:03.01 | trumee | DocScrutinizer05: i am chopping a male-female usb cable to shor d+ and d- for a dumb charger. There is a wire sheath around the wires, can i chop them off? |
| 19:03.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: sorry, I can't follow |
| 19:03.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: which services? |
| 19:03.36 | Woody14619 | Doc, scroll back... |
| 19:03.38 | Woody14619 | AFAIK the GPS and GSM antennas are in the areas above and to the right of the battery (which that custom mod pic would seem to have removed) |
| 19:03.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah |
| 19:04.38 | Woody14619 | It could be that mod relocates them... but still... There's not much wasted space in the N900. :) |
| 19:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I might stick those two batteries to a N900 in use, with some stickytape. then see if GPS and GSM still works |
| 19:06.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually there's no mod, just a suggestion I arranged by placing 2 batteries on back of N900 |
| 19:08.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | GSM antenna anyway is other end of device for all I recall |
| 19:09.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | err nope |
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| 19:12.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess with that size of batteries, you can move them another 5mm towards camera |
| 19:12.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus freeing up the antennae |
| 19:14.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway seems you could get ~4.5Ah like that, with mugen backcover |
| 19:15.44 | ShadowJK | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's where the batteries cover stuff |
| 19:16.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20120715_004.jpg |
| 19:17.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | but as mentioned seems there's some space left to camera to shift them up a bit, and also each battery itself has ~5mm 'useless' plastic frame that can get removed |
| 19:18.10 | trx | what's bellow? a metal frame? |
| 19:18.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | the cell |
| 19:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | so yes, metal |
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| 20:15.30 | Woody14619 | ah... nm DocScrutinizer05. I see what you're doing now. :) Missed the part about the Mugen cover. So you're promoting 3 batteries.. one in standard and two side-ways. |
| 20:16.13 | Woody14619 | I thought you were suggesting a case mod, to replace the one battery with the two and retain a normal back cover. |
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| 20:35.10 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: some people who mustn't be named actually think there's a way to make two 18650 fit in a slightly larger version of the mugen backcover, by shifting things a bit |
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| 20:40.42 | ShadowJK | Some unnamed persons also want to create a bigger aluminium (iirc) back cover |
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| 20:43.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | aluminium!!! |
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| 20:44.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess with that the batteries are the lesser problem for the antennae |
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| 20:52.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway 18650 iirc means 18mm diameter, 65mm length |
| 20:53.36 | kerio | yeah, they're huge |
| 20:53.47 | kerio | but they also hold an insane amount of power |
| 20:53.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus 2mm+ for cover, makes N900 almost as deep as it is high |
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| 20:54.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | definitely you don't need any more kickstand ;-P |
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| 20:55.46 | kerio | yeah but... 6Ah! |
| 20:56.15 | kerio | (calibrating that is going to be really painful :D ) |
| 20:56.18 | jaska | "what, you recharge your phone every week?" |
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| 21:00.22 | vi__ | not mention a lot of 18650s from china are longer than 65mm. |
| 21:00.51 | vi__ | It would be far more logical to use 14450a |
| 21:00.54 | vi__ | It would be far more logical to use 14450s |
| 21:01.38 | vi__ | You can fit like 5 of them going across the n900 |
| 21:02.29 | vi__ | actually, I don't care about a 6ah battery. |
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| 21:02.45 | vi__ | I want my n900 to fit in my pocket |
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| 21:03.06 | Gh0sty | hands vi__ a saw |
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| 21:04.32 | narcos | The /tmp/ partition on maemo is 1mb? |
| 21:04.40 | narcos | Seems scarce for a 32GB internal memory. |
| 21:06.04 | vi__ | I think it is actually on rootfs or ram or somthing stupid. |
| 21:06.23 | teotwaki__ | Here we go, I've setup a github repo, and am now developing my C++ application server publicly :) |
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| 21:08.58 | narcos | vi__: Odd choice... |
| 21:09.43 | kerio | /tmp/ is a tmpfs |
| 21:09.47 | kerio | hell, why shouldn't it be? |
| 21:13.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaska: every week, for 24h ;-P |
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| 21:15.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | (want my n900 to fit in my pocket) indeed, and a battery (back)pack size of a second N900 can easily get attached to N900's back and connected to N900 either via USB or with some special contacting rework with some pogopins and 2 holes in N900's backcover |
| 21:16.18 | ShadowJK | Well if they harvest the 18650s from laptop packs, and then add the protection circuit and new wrapper, they'll always end up bgiger than 18x65 :P |
| 21:16.19 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: but that requires plugging in stuff to the microusb port |
| 21:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: afaic the round cells usually come without protective circuitry |
| 21:17.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/c/k/ |
| 21:17.46 | ShadowJK | It's both |
| 21:17.58 | ShadowJK | and sometimes they just add broken protection circuits |
| 21:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: that's why I mentioned the pogopin solution, to save you from answering like that |
| 21:18.12 | kerio | c: |
| 21:19.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | two strong magnets to hold on to 2 iron buttons glued inside N900 backcover |
| 21:19.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4 holes in the 4 corners, 2 of them for pogopins to make contact |
| 21:20.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | the other two just mechanical bolts to fixate the backpack |
| 21:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | attach and remove with a click |
| 21:20.56 | kerio | or just go the ghetto route: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981077&postcount=448 |
| 21:23.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | for one couldn't think of anything more clumsy than a phne with such a huge battery, esp regarding carrying it compared to normal N900 and a sufficient number of spare batteries or USB powerpacks |
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| 21:55.04 | int_ua | Looks like I have a dbus-daemon memory leak |
| 21:55.34 | int_ua | can anyone help confirming with one bash command? |
| 21:55.39 | int_ua | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85960 |
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