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| 00:17.40 | infobot | i haven't seen 'kihamala', Venemo |
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| 01:03.02 | Estel_ | ShadowJK, interesting, using dual-scud, I can't properly finish charging @ 100 mA termination current - it finish *too early* |
| 01:03.15 | Estel_ | i.e. vdq doesn't set to 1, because charge terminates before battery is full |
| 01:03.24 | Estel_ | need to use min value of 50 mA |
| 01:03.43 | Estel_ | in such case, single batteries terminate even earlier with charge.sh and bq2415x_charger, huh? |
| 01:03.58 | Estel_ | You would say that dual cells will accept higher current at same state of charge |
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| 01:43.00 | EdLin | OK, got an n900. What do I do to get RD mode to break my device? :) |
| 01:44.24 | EdLin | sigh, guess I'll have to read the forums to figure it out. :P |
| 01:48.15 | EdLin | I guess I needed rootsh :) |
| 01:49.49 | luke-jr | EdLin: nah |
| 01:49.52 | luke-jr | just install SSH |
| 01:49.54 | luke-jr | and ssh in as root |
| 01:49.56 | luke-jr | :P |
| 01:50.02 | luke-jr | then edit the sudo configs yourself |
| 01:53.22 | ShadowJK | Estel_; bq27200 uses 60 or 80mA, iirc |
| 01:54.00 | ShadowJK | EdLin; or get rootsh from app manager, then type "root" in x-terminal |
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| 03:01.15 | EdLin | I'm having a problem with my new n900, I was charging it, for the second time (first time was before flashing, I successfully charged it to "green" 100%) and all of a sudden it said I needed to recharge the battery while it was on the charger. Now it's booting and rebooting in a loop. |
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| 03:07.54 | EdLin | does anyone have advice about boot loops like this? |
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| 04:28.51 | EdLin | my n900 while I was charging it all of a sudden said it was out of juice, then it shut down, now all it does if bootloop on the charger, and off not turn on at all. I've only had it a day, and I charged it successfully once before. |
| 04:30.10 | EdLin | I guess I'll ask what to do on TMO if I can't get a quick answer here. |
| 04:41.43 | EdLin | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85842 |
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| 05:27.16 | freemangordon | EdLin: need a new battery? |
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| 08:00.46 | EdLin | freemangordon, maybe I do need a new battery, knowing what I know now about cellphonesforever on eBay, they probably gave me a fake. |
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| 08:13.59 | Sv | throw it the farthest you can |
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| 08:46.54 | kerio | D: |
| 08:46.56 | kerio | lol |
| 08:47.10 | kerio | EdLin: it doesn't look like a good sign, anyway |
| 08:47.27 | kerio | EdLin: does it feel swollen? |
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| 09:19.06 | EdLin | kerio, no, not really. |
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| 10:12.38 | zeq | freemangordon: I'm considering enabling gcj in the toolchain. I only didn't do so to keep the size down. What do you think? Would other languages be useful? |
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| 15:17.11 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 15:31.09 | kerio | hm, bnf has a wrong sudoers.d file |
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| 15:37.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | bnf? |
| 15:38.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf bnf |
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| 15:38.40 | sivang | hi all |
| 15:38.43 | sivang | and re |
| 15:39.03 | sivang | does anybody know if Harmattan's backup really backs up everything BUT DCIM and music ? |
| 15:39.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ECHAN? |
| 15:39.16 | sivang | (It did not show any options to choose from before starting the backup) |
| 15:39.19 | sivang | oh |
| 15:39.20 | sivang | oops |
| 15:39.24 | sivang | DocScrutinizer05: indeed :) |
| 15:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
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| 15:39.32 | sivang | was sure he was in #harmattan |
| 15:41.13 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: a cute little program that displays battery info on a system notification |
| 15:42.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | so probably something that a) rapes your CPU and battery, b) messes with kernel and c) displays absolute nonsense? |
| 15:42.16 | kerio | but the .desktop file calls "sudo bnf", and there's a /usr/sbin/bnf executable |
| 15:42.22 | kerio | but the sudoers.d file refers to /usr/sbin/bnf.sh |
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| 15:43.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 15:43.18 | kerio | no, there's nothing running in the background |
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| 15:43.25 | kerio | and it doesn't mess with the kernel |
| 15:43.42 | vi__ | zeq1: n900...acquired. |
| 15:43.57 | vi__ | kerio: how do you like your otterbox? |
| 15:44.10 | kerio | vi__: awesoem |
| 15:44.20 | vi__ | total monster size. |
| 15:44.27 | kerio | it's still a bit weird to get the stylus or flick the lock slider |
| 15:44.43 | vi__ | You get used to it. |
| 15:44.55 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: it just displays bq27200 data when you want to |
| 15:44.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I nevertheless could come up with 3 reasons why it's flawed, in 5 minutes. You however already pointed to one of them |
| 15:45.15 | vi__ | and when you do...after you take it out the box it seems so sleek and delicate! |
| 15:45.31 | kerio | vi__: hehehe |
| 15:45.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, and where from does it get that data? ha? haaa? from a bq27200.ko that breaks your system |
| 15:45.58 | ShadowJK | or then it does it same way as bq27200.sh |
| 15:46.01 | kerio | huh... i2cget? |
| 15:46.12 | kerio | ShadowJK: yep |
| 15:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, then it works |
| 15:46.32 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: oh you c: |
| 15:46.57 | kerio | # Collecting data - from bq27200.sh by shadowjk, with few things added by me |
| 15:47.02 | kerio | yep indeed |
| 15:47.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got a bq27k-detail.desktop - guess what it does ;-P |
| 15:47.23 | kerio | oh god busybox arithmetics |
| 15:47.33 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what bnf does, except you haven't shared it with anyone? |
| 15:47.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly |
| 15:47.49 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: does it show battery stats in a nice yellow bubble? |
| 15:47.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't think it was worth sharing |
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| 15:49.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | Name=bq27k Monitor |
| 15:49.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Exec=/usr/bin/osso-xterm 'sudo /root/bin/bq27200.sh 60' |
| 15:49.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Icon=iptraf |
| 15:49.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | see? I shared it now |
| 15:49.26 | kerio | hehe |
| 15:49.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh, I probably should share the sudoers.d/* too, eh? |
| 15:50.03 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i can try to guess what it contains |
| 15:50.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet you succeed on first guess |
| 15:50.43 | RST38h | moos |
| 15:50.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | moos nack |
| 15:50.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | back even |
| 15:51.02 | kerio | "user ALL: (ALL) NOPASSWD: /root/bin/bq27200.sh"? |
| 15:51.08 | RST38h | How is our decline tonight? |
| 15:51.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | (fsck U trackpoint) |
| 15:51.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | considers removing that red rubber clit permanently |
| 15:51.59 | kerio | vi__: btw, i didn't know the otterbox came with a screen protector :s |
| 15:52.14 | kerio | i wasted 6€ buying a different one! |
| 15:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: user ALL = NOPASSWD: /root/bin/bq27200.sh --- indeed how did you guess TAHT?? |
| 15:53.31 | RST38h | Doc: Don't, cost me ~20% of a finger the last time |
| 15:54.09 | kerio | :D |
| 15:54.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: thanks for the warning :-D |
| 15:55.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | however I'm more concerned where to store that rubber blob |
| 15:55.13 | RST38h | Don't recent Lenovos have a normal trackpad in addition to the masturbator(tm)? |
| 15:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
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| 15:56.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders stashing that red thingie away in a PCMCIA slot |
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| 15:57.06 | kerio | don't remove the trackpoint! how will you play enigma afterwards? |
| 15:57.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | YEAH I pushed it into the modem RJ11 receptacle. Never ever will come out again :-S |
| 15:57.36 | kerio | D: |
| 15:58.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh well, who needs masturbator, or POTS modem (latter one prolly not even functional without windoze softmodem driver) |
| 15:58.55 | jonwil | There needs to be a special place in hell reserved for the guy who invented that red nub thing pointing device |
| 15:58.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | what an anachronism |
| 15:59.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | M O D E M - 56k LOLWTF |
| 15:59.48 | zeq1 | vi_: :) |
| 16:00.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | even has an annoying green LED next to it, to tell me "here I am, eating your electricity for nuttin" all the time |
| 16:02.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeeha, the ETA for copying those 28GB from one place on HDD to another went down from 8h to 1h13 during initial 30min of copy |
| 16:03.56 | vi__ | jonwil: the clit mouse? |
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| 16:04.12 | vi__ | clitmouse is pro |
| 16:04.24 | RST38h | kerio: with healthy fingertips, no? |
| 16:04.33 | vi__ | kerio: You will need it in about 4-5 months. |
| 16:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | while a killall aplay on the old PC amazingly froze the whole thing for ~5min, then freed up like 5GB of swap and cured knotify cpu load to 0% from ~50% it was before |
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| 16:05.10 | RST38h | jonwil: Most IBM hardware seems to be designed by robots, for robots. You probably have not seen their PC RT and PS/2 mice... |
| 16:05.45 | RST38h | Besides, even current Lenovos always freak me out due to their similarity to old Soviet mainframe hardware |
| 16:06.38 | kerio | vi__: what? |
| 16:07.01 | kerio | RST38h: enigma is the shit |
| 16:07.06 | kerio | and playing it with a joystick is even better |
| 16:08.25 | zeq1 | freemangordon: I've discovered an interesting "feature" with -ffast-math. The old pre-c99 isnanf() macros (at least with our glibc) do not work as expected. I was debugging a hildon-desktop crash with fastmath enabled. Using the C99 replaceent isnan() works fine. |
| 16:09.02 | zeq1 | s/replaceent/replacement/ |
| 16:09.02 | Venemo_N9 | zeq1, indeed. |
| 16:09.15 | vi__ | kerio: the screen protector |
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| 16:09.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq1?isnan(WTF):null |
| 16:11.16 | vi__ | kerio: where you looking for an imgur uploader? |
| 16:11.30 | kerio | no, i wasn't |
| 16:11.39 | kerio | ...i did have a problem with microb's file picker though |
| 16:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | NAME fpclassify, isfinite, isnormal, isnan, isinf - floating-point (!!!) classification macros |
| 16:11.58 | zeq1 | needs to go pack for holiday :) |
| 16:12.12 | kerio | vi__: also yeah |
| 16:12.43 | vi__ | kerio: there is a bash script that behaves just like pastebinnit. |
| 16:12.58 | zeq1 | DocScrutinizer: fpclassify is the C99 standard |
| 16:13.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf are you doing with float anyway ? ;-) |
| 16:13.35 | zeq1 | the isnanf() is obsolete according to the man page |
| 16:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | float is EVIL! |
| 16:13.45 | zeq1 | :) |
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| 16:14.53 | vi__ | zeq1: turn the computer off now. back away from the keyboard and go on holiday. |
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| 16:15.41 | qwazix | clit mouse ftw :) unless they make all progrmas with command line |
| 16:15.54 | qwazix | s/progrmas/programs/ |
| 16:16.03 | qwazix | or sane shortcuts |
| 16:16.44 | qwazix | can't live without it anymore, although I agree there's a pretty steep learning curve |
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| 16:21.09 | RST38h | MEANWHILE: Unfortunately for Motorola, the phone still appears to be broadly-rectangular, a shape which we all now know certain corporate residents of Cupertino invented long before Euclid started fooling with geometry. |
| 16:24.09 | ShadowJK | An australian has patent on the wheel, so you can't make circular phones either |
| 16:24.19 | ShadowJK | and apple has also patent on the wedge |
| 16:24.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: MUHAHAHA |
| 16:24.29 | ShadowJK | maybe octagonal is still available |
| 16:25.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll patent all roughly potato-shaped cases |
| 16:25.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | THEN you're really fscked |
| 16:25.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hell, I'll patent the idea of having a case at all |
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| 16:25.57 | vi__ | nokia has patent on the 'half frisbee in head' |
| 16:26.22 | vi__ | or the n-gage v1 as it was known. |
| 16:27.24 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer; i hope om/etc has patent on caseless ;D |
| 16:27.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah, 5% aka 20k of files to copy, 90% of those 28GB done |
| 16:28.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: I think OM/sean never bothered about *any* patents |
| 16:28.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 16:30.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, there were actually 5 (five!) files that conflicted when copying my 28GB of old home over the fresh new home on new laptop |
| 16:33.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | now if only the kde session would come up on that user |
| 16:36.38 | qwazix | I'm thinking to order another two N900 back covers and try to transplant the kickstand of the one to the left side of the other so that it has two of themd |
| 16:37.22 | vi__ | qwazix: madness. |
| 16:37.24 | qwazix | it will sit flat on it's back and will be able to be used with stylus when on the table |
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| 16:39.30 | qwazix | vi_: but why?? :P |
| 16:40.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: right side |
| 16:40.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | left side is the camera and existing stand |
| 16:40.58 | qwazix | DocScrutinizer: left side as you look at the back cover |
| 16:41.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I do what? I never do that ;-P |
| 16:41.14 | qwazix | right side as you hold it |
| 16:41.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
| 16:42.31 | qwazix | DocScrutinizer: you don't take self photos for faceshit? |
| 16:42.47 | kerio | qwazix: wait for estel's super duper aluminium cases |
| 16:43.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | "the following problem been detected while trying to start KDE: no write access to .ICEauthority" :-/ |
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| 16:44.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | curses user-name/numID duality of *nix |
| 16:44.20 | qwazix | kerio: yeah, might be better... |
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| 16:49.15 | Tofe | plop |
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| 16:52.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | superduper alu case will have superduper antenna fake/fsckup |
| 16:52.30 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: :c |
| 16:52.52 | kerio | the iphone 4s has a partially metallic case! |
| 16:53.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | or comes with "how to hold it right" instuctions just like iPhone ;-P |
| 16:53.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no way a one man amateur enterprise will build anything as sophisticated as that iPhone's integrated antenna design |
| 16:54.19 | SpeedEvil | Evolution! |
| 16:54.42 | SpeedEvil | Make a 3d printer that can do wire as well as plastic, print a dozen random candidates, and automatically measure them. |
| 16:54.45 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i just want to see if he'll actually make a case that can hold two 18650s |
| 16:55.33 | kerio | it will be glorious |
| 16:55.45 | kerio | besides, the placement of the stock antenna is awful |
| 16:56.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | friggin line find . -user jr -exec chown -v jr2 {} \; takes forever, with 28GB aka 500k files |
| 16:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | will restart it without -v |
| 16:57.47 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you can make it slightly faster by xargsing it |
| 16:58.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure about that? |
| 16:58.16 | kerio | can't you configure xargs to run the same program with multiple arguments? |
| 16:58.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet you can |
| 16:58.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | which probably actually would speed up things a bit |
| 16:59.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, chown is in cache already |
| 17:00.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, nuttin a pair of 2GHz cores wouldn't cut through in minutes, eh? |
| 17:00.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | done |
| 17:01.06 | qwazix | DocScrutinizer05: what's the -v switch? |
| 17:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | verbose |
| 17:01.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | diagnostic output |
| 17:01.58 | qwazix | naturally |
| 17:02.08 | qwazix | feels stupid |
| 17:03.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | and (dummdummdumm) here it is: KDE4 with old home - finally |
| 17:04.20 | qwazix | how's KDE4 speed-wise? |
| 17:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | shit |
| 17:06.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | except for segv |
| 17:06.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's pretty fast and frequent |
| 17:07.11 | zeq1 | just rebuilt transmission for thumb, saved over half a megabyte! Now I wonder if it will finally be usable..? |
| 17:07.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course NONE of my settings from KDE4(!) of old laptop made it to KDE4 of that new user on new laptop where I copied the whole friggin 28GB of $HOME to |
| 17:11.48 | kerio | zeq1: half a mb doesn't sound like a lot |
| 17:11.49 | vi__ | zeq1: Unlikely. |
| 17:12.05 | vi__ | zeq1: go on yhour damn holiday allready! |
| 17:12.29 | vi__ | zeq1: rtorrent on the other hands runs like a champ. |
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| 17:13.05 | vi__ | ...but it does not suppory magnet links. |
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| 17:16.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | lovely how two concurrent irc clients kick each other mutually :-P |
| 17:17.52 | zeq1 | vi_: just about ready to leave :) |
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| 17:25.37 | zeq1 | vi_: deluge is my client of choice. I run the daemon on my server and have a nice native gtk client or web interface. |
| 17:25.53 | zeq1 | just need to port it... |
| 17:28.19 | kerio | zeq1: >:( |
| 17:28.26 | kerio | transmission-daemon! |
| 17:31.01 | zeq1 | kerio: yes, I know... but I like deluge :) |
| 17:35.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq1: if you need a temporary kickban not to miss your airplane or whatever, don't hesitate to ask ;-D |
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| 17:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | (this *sometimes* has worked for MohammadAG ;-D ) |
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| 17:38.03 | zeq1 | that's ok DocScrutinizer05, gf is driving :) |
| 17:38.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah X-D |
| 17:39.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | "this female voice of your navi made me angry, so I drove left when she said 'right' " |
| 17:40.12 | qwazix | just "ported" pyroom to N900 |
| 17:40.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | pyroom sounds like a very tasty mushroom |
| 17:41.06 | qwazix | downloaded tar, changed 1 line, commented 3 and modified preferences to use more screen |
| 17:41.18 | qwazix | it's a text editor |
| 17:41.48 | FIQ|n900 | qwazix: sounds like hard work |
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| 17:45.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: moinmoin! |
| 17:45.35 | javispedro | hi |
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| 17:46.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | just noticed join-notification in his 'ported' DocScrutinizer client in 2nd KDE session |
| 17:47.13 | javispedro | using KDE now? :) |
| 17:47.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | since KDE0.8 |
| 17:48.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | eventually I tried gnome for... like 6h |
| 17:48.32 | Venemo_N9 | lol |
| 17:48.43 | qwazix | FIQ|n900: yeah, wonder if it's possible to package for extras devel on the N900 itself |
| 17:49.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | thought "WTF, my win98 is more configurable than this. Nicer too" and switched system back to KDE2 |
| 17:50.28 | FIQ|n900 | :P |
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| 17:51.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: nah, I just finally tried to complete the migration of my old KDE4 setup from that esprimo crap to my new lenovo t500, by copying 28GB of $home |
| 17:51.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | now I got 2 KDE sessions running on t500, this one and the 'old' one with DocScrutinizer xchat |
| 17:53.07 | javispedro | one of the nice thinkpads |
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| 17:53.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, after removing the redrubbernub |
| 17:53.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | that otherwise blocks b g h keys |
| 17:54.02 | javispedro | I know people that _like_ that :P |
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| 17:54.14 | vi__ | WTS:1xN950. Serious offers only. |
| 17:54.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | perverts ;-P |
| 17:54.16 | javispedro | wouldn't use it in a thousand years |
| 17:54.28 | vi__ | I llike the rubber nub. |
| 17:54.41 | javispedro | vi__: so the $2000 got into you, eh? |
| 17:54.49 | vi__ | no. |
| 17:54.52 | vi__ | aegis. |
| 17:55.11 | javispedro | my n950 has no aegis =) |
| 17:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 17:55.23 | vi__ | They castrated my favourite OS. |
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| 17:55.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | heard vi__falling off the chair |
| 17:56.06 | vi__ | Its the little things. |
| 17:56.32 | vi__ | Like why does /bin/sh flat out ignore my .profile? |
| 17:56.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, like the whole OS not made for a device with hw kbd for example |
| 17:57.04 | vi__ | fuck harmattan. |
| 17:57.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ACK |
| 17:57.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | no more fun in that one |
| 17:57.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | for me |
| 17:57.52 | vi__ | ~seen slopotanmus |
| 17:57.54 | infobot | i haven't seen 'slopotanmus', vi__ |
| 17:57.59 | vi__ | ~seen slopotanus |
| 17:57.59 | infobot | i haven't seen 'slopotanus', vi__ |
| 17:58.05 | vi__ | ~seen slopatonus |
| 17:58.06 | infobot | i haven't seen 'slopatonus', vi__ |
| 17:58.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen slopotonamus |
| 17:58.10 | infobot | i haven't seen 'slopotonamus', DocScrutinizer05 |
| 17:58.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq |
| 17:58.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~uselss |
| 17:58.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless |
| 17:58.39 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 17:58.50 | javispedro | ~seen slonopotamus |
| 17:58.51 | infobot | slonopotamus <~slonopota@176.57.72.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 66d 22h 57m 39s ago, saying: 'DocScrutinizer51: you're killing all fun'. |
| 17:59.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~learn seen for wildcards! |
| 17:59.07 | vi__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.47 | vi__ | ~seen a naked woman |
| 17:59.49 | infobot | i haven't seen 'a naked woman', vi__ |
| 18:00.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~liar |
| 18:00.05 | infobot | liar is, like, me |
| 18:00.06 | vi__ | ~man woman |
| 18:00.06 | infobot | No manual entry for woman |
| 18:00.14 | Tofe | :D |
| 18:00.29 | vi__ | I think that is funny. |
| 18:00.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~attack vi__ |
| 18:00.29 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing vi__ |
| 18:00.59 | Tofe | infobot is a "she" ? |
| 18:01.27 | Tofe | ~gender infobot |
| 18:01.28 | infobot | I heard infobot is sexless. |
| 18:01.29 | javispedro | depends on the hour of day |
| 18:01.37 | Tofe | I see... |
| 18:01.42 | vi__ | as close to a 'she' that you get on the internet. |
| 18:01.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rape Tofe |
| 18:01.44 | infobot | ACTION takes Tofe behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 18:02.12 | Tofe | Ah ! Romance... |
| 18:02.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | quite tacky ;-) |
| 18:02.57 | vi__ | also it turms out I like motorbikes more than computers. |
| 18:03.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, for me it's usually "she" |
| 18:03.57 | javispedro | vi__: mid life crisis? |
| 18:04.09 | Tofe | vi__: well, you don't crash a motorbike very often, usually the first is the good one |
| 18:04.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only to pollish our terrible gender ratio here |
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| 18:05.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so loving motorbikes more sounds like end-live crisis X-P |
| 18:05.22 | vi__ | javispedro: a bit early! |
| 18:05.36 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: you mean murdercycles? |
| 18:05.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 18:05.44 | kerio | vi__: or maybe your life is unusually short |
| 18:06.10 | vi__ | kerio: everyones life is short. |
| 18:06.51 | kerio | a midlife crisis in your 40s implies you'll live to 80 |
| 18:06.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | my friend and neighbour and landlord starts a massive attack with smoke and fire in the garden in front of my kitchen window |
| 18:06.58 | kerio | a midlife crisis in your 20s implies you'll live to 40 |
| 18:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I should go down and steal his BBQ |
| 18:07.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
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| 18:07.50 | vi__ | Woody14619: yo |
| 18:08.03 | zeq1 | is on the road |
| 18:08.05 | vi__ | Anyway, the offer stands. |
| 18:08.27 | vi__ | zeq1: and on the internet at the same time??? what is this wichcraft? |
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| 18:08.48 | Woody14619 | and sd69... Council meeting time. :) |
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| 18:09.26 | vi__ | Woody14619: where? |
| 18:09.36 | Woody14619 | #maemo-meetig |
| 18:09.39 | Woody14619 | #maemo-meeting that is |
| 18:09.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, reminds me to read up backlog chanlogs of yesterday |
| 18:10.02 | javispedro | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/12/q3/e23/Pic-1.png |
| 18:10.17 | javispedro | ^^ what happens when you let your ACLs loose! |
| 18:11.04 | javispedro | fun thing is that, apart from renaming $USER to "Everyone", I think there's at least one valid way to make windows show that :) |
| 18:12.21 | Tofe | Ok, I give up with DBus. There won't be any status icon right now. Grrr ! |
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| 19:23.50 | teotwaki_ | Reflection in C++, didn't think it'd ever be possible. Luckily, I was wrong. |
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| 19:25.45 | javispedro | teotwaki_: are you talking about qt or cxx2012? |
| 19:26.01 | javispedro | *2011 |
| 19:26.25 | jonwil | I recon QT is the nicest UI toolkit I have ever used :) |
| 19:26.27 | teotwaki_ | Neither. |
| 19:26.34 | teotwaki_ | javispedro: http://kifri.fri.uniza.sk/~chochlik/mirror-lib/html/ |
| 19:26.43 | jonwil | better than gtk and better than the Windows API |
| 19:27.11 | teotwaki_ | jonwil: not really difficult on both accounts. |
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| 19:27.17 | javispedro | teotwaki_: cxx2011 then ;) "... should be usable with any compiler implementing the C++11 features" |
| 19:27.35 | teotwaki_ | javispedro: It's not actually C++11 based. |
| 19:28.08 | teotwaki_ | javispedro: It just his implementation leverages some C++11 features, though, to be honest, it's C++0x he implements, not C++11. Initially, it was written on C++03, but he did a rewrite. |
| 19:28.57 | javispedro | I assume it's like what qt does, with some external parser |
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| 19:29.41 | teotwaki_ | except that Qt only provides introspection at best, no reflection. Also, Qt requires meta annotations littered in the source code, which this doesn't require. |
| 19:31.12 | javispedro | teotwaki_: I think it does, what do you understand by reflection anyway? |
| 19:32.35 | teotwaki_ | javispedro: introspection is when you're able to deduce type information, in a generic fashion. For example Object & object = get<Foo>(); object.hasProperty("bar"); |
| 19:33.26 | teotwaki_ | reflection is the ability to modify the values, meta-data, properties and functions of a type at run-time, or compile-time in the case of compile-time reflection. |
| 19:36.39 | javispedro | ok, so I stopped at changing values and executing functions :) |
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| 20:32.15 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 20:35.39 | kerio | infobot: hi! |
| 20:35.39 | infobot | hi |
| 20:35.45 | kerio | awwww :3 |
| 20:36.30 | kerio | does anyone know if there's a way to disable the accelerometer in enigma? |
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| 20:47.28 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what's the fastest way to drain the battery? |
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| 20:54.09 | kerio | ~bq24200.sh |
| 20:54.13 | kerio | hm |
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| 21:00.05 | kerio | ShadowJK_: do you have your bq24200.sh script somewhere? |
| 21:00.12 | kerio | i mean, hosted |
| 21:00.44 | ShadowJK_ | http://enivax.net/jk/n900/ ? |
| 21:01.49 | kerio | well i didn't know about that :) |
| 21:01.55 | kerio | ty |
| 21:02.35 | kerio | is it in a factoid? |
| 21:03.07 | ShadowJK_ | no |
| 21:03.08 | ShadowJK_ | nafaik |
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| 21:03.51 | kerio | should it be? are you against it? |
| 21:04.23 | ShadowJK_ | I just never considered any of that stuff fit for general use by the general public |
| 21:05.53 | kerio | k |
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| 21:08.16 | ShadowJK_ | The advantage of people having to ask me where it is, is that when they 5 minutes later are full of questions I'm hopefully still around to answer :P |
| 21:08.55 | kerio | hehe |
| 21:09.08 | kerio | nah, just trying to calibrate the chip for my battery |
| 21:09.40 | kerio | i'm trying to discharge it as fast as i can, gps enabled, screen at max brightness and 3g with crappy reception |
| 21:09.53 | kerio | so i can go to sleep kinda early |
| 21:09.56 | kerio | :D |
| 21:11.26 | SpeedEvil | flashlight |
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| 21:14.20 | r00t^home | short-circuit |
| 21:16.41 | kerio | has no idea how to remove the body part of an otterbox |
| 21:17.48 | ShadowJK_ | also, in an x-terminal: while true; do A=0; done |
| 21:17.52 | ShadowJK_ | for extra cpu use |
| 21:19.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: huh? fastest way to drain the battery? you're kidding me? |
| 21:19.55 | kerio | well, to use it |
| 21:20.17 | kerio | :) |
| 21:20.29 | kerio | i really hope i can charge it afterwards :/ |
| 21:20.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh you're serious |
| 21:20.55 | ShadowJK_ | I've had some issues charging from near empty with "weak" powersources |
| 21:21.12 | kerio | i'm using the wallcharger |
| 21:21.16 | ShadowJK_ | lol, I've been doing "discharge quickly" all week for benchmarks |
| 21:21.19 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i'm calibrating! |
| 21:21.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: increase power comsumption to max ;-P |
| 21:21.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | backlight to max |
| 21:21.39 | kerio | that's what i'm doing |
| 21:21.47 | kerio | but i'm kinda sleepy! |
| 21:21.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | speakers at max volume |
| 21:22.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | vibrator to 100% |
| 21:22.10 | kerio | naughty |
| 21:22.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaaand of course send lots and lots of data out via 3G |
| 21:22.37 | kerio | out? |
| 21:22.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | then play some video so the gfxaccel has something to do |
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| 21:22.57 | ShadowJK_ | I keep a ping going, load google.com (triggers 3.5g). The ping keeps it in 3.5g |
| 21:23.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | out as in "to the internets" |
| 21:23.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, that's possibly futile as it just receives data |
| 21:23.48 | kerio | it also sends data! |
| 21:23.56 | kerio | icmp echo requests! |
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| 21:24.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | max TX consumption with DATA OUT plus concurrent phonecall (place phone to a speaker so it has some 'voice' to send out) |
| 21:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | same with wifi (though those are max 100mW while WCDMA are 2ish Watts) |
| 21:26.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yeah, place your device also into a tin box, so it has to ramp up TX power all the way to reach BTS/eNodeB |
| 21:27.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | as otherwise your 3G still might use less than WLAN |
| 21:27.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P only if you're extremely lucky |
| 21:27.34 | kerio | tin box = my house and my hand |
| 21:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't forget torch/flashlight |
| 21:27.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and camera |
| 21:27.43 | kerio | ok, i'm just going to irc |
| 21:27.53 | kerio | with max backlight |
| 21:28.03 | ShadowJK_ | Considering my ping time goes down below that of which my HSDPA-only phone gets in HSDPA mode, I think both HSDPA and HSUPA get activated on my N900, and in that mode powerconsumption doesn't change significantly with transfer rate IME |
| 21:28.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | (the cam IF sucks quite a lot) |
| 21:28.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | then enable boostmode and feed your 200mA max load to a convenient sink |
| 21:28.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | hell, 200mA*5V are another whole Watt |
| 21:29.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK_: I'm not expert enough to evaluate the WCDMA power consumption for different upstream data sitations |
| 21:30.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil did empiric tests though |
| 21:31.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems you can get another 300mA load on battery with upload, on unknown OTA signal situations though |
| 21:31.45 | ShadowJK_ | possibly |
| 21:31.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | 0.3 * 4 sounds sane though for WCDMA TX |
| 21:32.10 | ShadowJK_ | But I can get up to 1A by shading it :P |
| 21:32.13 | kerio | wifi adhoc? |
| 21:32.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be up to 0.5 or even 1A in extreme cases |
| 21:32.15 | kerio | er |
| 21:32.22 | ShadowJK_ | at 9km distance from tower |
| 21:32.23 | kerio | what's the opposite of adhoc? |
| 21:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometime anywhere |
| 21:34.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | or did you mean infrastructure mode |
| 21:35.01 | kerio | i did |
| 21:35.09 | kerio | that has no powersaving |
| 21:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | infra mode has powersaving |
| 21:35.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ad hoc doesn't |
| 21:36.05 | kerio | what's the one without an AP? |
| 21:36.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | adhoc |
| 21:36.20 | kerio | that one |
| 21:36.36 | kerio | by the way, is there a way to do hostap on the n900? |
| 21:36.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | allegedly not, the chip forbids |
| 21:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why hotspot and joghurt use adhoc fake AP mode |
| 21:37.34 | kerio | shakes his fist at the chip |
| 21:37.50 | kerio | joghurt? |
| 21:38.41 | ShadowJK_ | joikuspot |
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| 21:39.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | joghurt sport |
| 21:40.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.giffits.de/ritter-sport-mini-joghurt-werbeartikel-74502.htm |
| 21:41.48 | ShadowJK_ | ritter is bad |
| 21:42.00 | ShadowJK_ | my 14 year old german cousin agrees with me |
| 21:42.08 | kerio | omnomnom |
| 21:42.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | so is joikuspot |
| 21:44.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | a botch invented to ship around the fact that sybian doesn't support any proper networking, and then the whole shite ported to linux which actually _has_ proper networking (though not in stock kernel) - and YET they need their own kernel module afaik |
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| 21:45.06 | ShadowJK_ | Yeah they're using their own kernel module to do generic packet injection into the stack, I think |
| 21:45.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's like inventing aqualung for mokeys transported in aquarium |
| 21:45.33 | kerio | dafuq |
| 21:45.48 | kerio | clearly cssu needs to stop that madness! /s |
| 21:45.59 | ShadowJK_ | Speaking of wtfness. I acquired an android tablet |
| 21:46.37 | ShadowJK_ | The powersaving is silly. All the clock widgets, including the "system status bar" one, were frozen for 3 days and didn't update. lol |
| 21:47.04 | ShadowJK_ | I was playing GTA3 and almost got late for work because the clock was frozen |
| 21:47.22 | kerio | haha |
| 21:47.28 | kerio | sure, blame it on android |
| 21:47.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf of the week from my professional domain: a high-prio process spinning in a busy loop waiting for a low-prio process freeing up resources |
| 21:48.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no, this system won't do fair scheduling or anything like that |
| 21:49.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK_: watch same frozenness on N810 |
| 21:49.13 | ShadowJK_ | Never seen it on N810 |
| 21:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | the systray clock only updates when you touch the screen |
| 21:49.44 | ShadowJK_ | Like, under heavy system load, when unlocking screen, it shows stale info, but once system load clears up it updates? |
| 21:49.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | as do any widgets |
| 21:49.54 | ShadowJK_ | Not for me? |
| 21:50.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, zarro system load |
| 21:50.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | just idling with screen never fading |
| 21:50.19 | ShadowJK_ | Never seen that |
| 21:50.36 | ShadowJK_ | Except with foreca weather app that only updates when you establish network connection |
| 21:52.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but then maybe you never had a chance to notice |
| 21:52.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | will your screen stay on while on charger? |
| 21:53.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | as that's the only situations where you can watch it |
| 21:54.16 | ShadowJK_ | no screen is off during charge |
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| 21:55.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just trying to reproduce it, seems plain homescreen on while charging isn't sufficient |
| 21:56.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | no screen, or 'no, screen is..' |
| 22:00.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, seems a more tricky screwed case where the display of time just stalls - I'm definitely sure I've seen this 100s of times now, but now I can't reproduce it |
| 22:05.08 | FIQ|n900 | screen can be configured to turn off during charge or never turn off |
| 22:05.44 | kerio | hm, apparently calibrating without bme is easy |
| 22:06.24 | ShadowJK_ | sure, bme shuts down before calibration threshold is reached |
| 22:06.45 | kerio | ShadowJK_: well, not exactly |
| 22:06.51 | ShadowJK_ | I usually try to hit the calibration voltage at 300-400mA load, becauese that kinda represents typical load |
| 22:07.11 | kerio | bme will shut down at 3198, calibration is 15 seconds below 3248 |
| 22:07.19 | ShadowJK_ | Well, sometimes it shuts down before, sometimes shutdown takes so long that power is consumed long enough to bring it below 3248 for long enough |
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| 22:07.29 | kerio | hehe |
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| 22:08.05 | kerio | meh, i have to bring it down from the resetted 2042mAh to a nokia BL-5J |
| 22:08.10 | kerio | it'll probably take a couple of cycles |
| 22:08.33 | ShadowJK_ | iirc the 3198 threshold is without hald-addon-bme? I.e. bme will judge that userspace has failed to execute safe shutdown, and will do its own forceful shutdown at 3198-ish? |
| 22:08.45 | kerio | \_o_/ |
| 22:08.46 | ShadowJK_ | do you want a shortcut? |
| 22:08.46 | kerio | fukken bme |
| 22:08.51 | kerio | which shortcut? |
| 22:08.56 | ShadowJK_ | one cycle |
| 22:08.57 | kerio | i just stopped it |
| 22:09.01 | kerio | ooh, neat |
| 22:09.03 | kerio | but no |
| 22:09.06 | kerio | don't care *that* much |
| 22:09.16 | kerio | besides, i'm still using the standard battery indicator |
| 22:09.23 | kerio | how would i do that? |
| 22:10.36 | ShadowJK_ | it's in the DANGEROUS folder anyways. write_ar and transfer ar to nac scripts. Edit AR to your best guess of battery capacity, execute. Charge fully, disconnect charger, immediately execute second script. Then do discharge to empty calibration cycle. |
| 22:10.49 | ShadowJK_ | Must absolutely be done without bme, without battery kernel modules, etc etc |
| 22:11.20 | ShadowJK_ | Though you can use bme to do "charge fully" if you want, but after that it must be stopped |
| 22:11.21 | kerio | ShadowJK_: meh, i could consider it if i eventually move to a bigass battery |
| 22:11.27 | ShadowJK_ | yeah |
| 22:13.38 | kerio | meh |
| 22:13.45 | kerio | last measured discharge is 1700mAh |
| 22:13.55 | kerio | no way this crappy bl-5j is 1700mAh |
| 22:14.28 | kerio | ShadowJK_: :c |
| 22:14.31 | kerio | i'm sad |
| 22:14.46 | ShadowJK_ | Single learning cycle does 1/6th step at most :) |
| 22:15.36 | kerio | does this mean that it's actually worth it to reset the chip if you move to a big battery, because it resets at 2400mAh? |
| 22:15.49 | ShadowJK_ | probably |
| 22:15.57 | ShadowJK_ | or use my "shortcut" |
| 22:16.14 | ShadowJK_ | I reset when changing batteries anyway, to reset cycle counters |
| 22:17.17 | kerio | how do you reset it? |
| 22:17.26 | kerio | remove battery, wait for bupbat to fail, put battery in? |
| 22:17.44 | ShadowJK_ | bupbat isn't connected |
| 22:17.58 | ShadowJK_ | No I use i2cset to send reset command :P |
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| 22:21.56 | kerio | i see |
| 22:22.01 | kerio | wtf, bme thinks my phone is charging |
| 22:22.04 | kerio | even when it isn't |
| 22:22.08 | kerio | :s |
| 22:22.11 | kerio | fukken BME |
| 22:22.23 | kerio | and fukken hald-addon-bme, i suppose |
| 22:23.20 | kerio | oh god, it's in ACT_DEAD mode with no charger |
| 22:23.45 | kerio | oh, phew, it turned off |
| 22:26.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK_: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20120804_001.jpg |
| 22:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for the blurr |
| 22:27.20 | ShadowJK_ | wow |
| 22:27.26 | ShadowJK_ | but the widget updated? :) |
| 22:27.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 22:27.42 | ShadowJK_ | and the statusbar thing that i dont even have, didnt |
| 22:27.50 | kerio | ShadowJK_: how do i kick bme in the head enough for it to start working again without rebooting? |
| 22:28.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | the whole statusbar seems frozen |
| 22:29.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | stop bme; start bme; stop bme; start bme; |
| 22:29.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually hald-addon-bme re-establishes the IPC afaik |
| 22:30.12 | ShadowJK_ | dunno, i dont really use bme |
| 22:30.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | and bme itself will open the i2c device to talk to the chips |
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| 22:31.09 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i tried that |
| 22:31.13 | kerio | it still thought it was charging |
| 22:31.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | what do you mean by "start working again"? |
| 22:31.36 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: correctly report nothing plugged in as "not charging" |
| 22:32.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm, plug and unplug something |
| 22:32.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | start booston for a second, then ^C |
| 22:32.54 | kerio | hm, i could've tried hostmode, i suppose |
| 22:33.05 | kerio | the problem was hald-addon-bme i think |
| 22:33.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 22:33.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | it takes a while til IPC gets re-established afaik |
| 22:33.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | only tries once per minute or so |
| 22:34.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | lshal might help |
| 22:34.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno |
| 22:34.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I frequently wonder who and why shuts down screen-BL when you start bme |
| 22:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather idiotic |
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| 23:08.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordonEstel_: please, hold on for a while22:10 |
| 23:08.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | Estel_no problem22:11 |
| 23:08.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Estel_ |
| 23:08.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I think that it's worth to use full potential where applicable, instead of going lazy and minimalistic, just for sake of it. |
| 23:08.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | 22:16 |
| 23:12.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | and another one: Estel_merlin1991, let me rephrase it - kp exist, because omap1 is not enough for 99,99% of users |
| 23:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | estel_ esists because otherwise 99.99% of aspirin would never get sold |
| 23:14.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq estel, if you're eager to use KP, so fucking just DO IT, don't pretend you hafe to fight for something in the name of 99.99% of other users who as well can just use KP if they feel like they need it! |
| 23:15.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/hafe/have/ |
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| 23:41.59 | SpeedEvil | The above tests were with good signal, though maybe 3km from the antenna |
| 23:57.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: makes sense with those 0.3A |
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| 23:58.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess that tower is made to cover a large diameter area |
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| 23:59.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | i.e. it's high enough to have good line of sight to your position |
| 23:59.44 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: can uboot be made to explicitly turn on the lcd backlight on start? |
| 23:59.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm yep |
