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| 05:17.59 | joga | I was ssh'ing and suddenly got "Operation temporarily disabled due to low memory" notification, after a while I could dismiss it without it appearing again, but never had that happen before |
| 05:19.00 | joga | does it do something particular when that happens? |
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| 05:51.22 | jacekowski | joga: it does exactly what it says on a tin |
| 05:51.43 | jacekowski | joga: it stops a lot of stuff when memory is low |
| 05:52.50 | jacekowski | joga: but that's flash memory not ram memory |
| 05:52.59 | joga | oh |
| 05:53.12 | jacekowski | as in rootfs |
| 05:53.21 | jacekowski | if that runs down to 0 |
| 05:53.27 | jacekowski | you are going to end up with bootloop |
| 05:53.28 | joga | hmm, I have about 33M there |
| 05:53.37 | joga | not sure why it would have filled it just now |
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| 07:20.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | please all SB users stay tuned for Pali's mail to community/devel ML, about annoying bug in SB config |
| 07:21.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | for now you could do ~# cat /scratchbox/users/*/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 07:21.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and see if there's thumb in there |
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| 07:36.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: (it stops a lot of stuff when memory is low. joga: but that's flash memory not ram memory) err nope |
| 07:36.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | "Operation temporarily disabled due to low memory" notification is clearly related to RAM shortage |
| 07:36.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | (incl swap) |
| 07:36.50 | joga | sounds like it |
| 07:37.44 | joga | I added a couple widgets lately (oculo and sticky notes), maybe that contributed |
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| 07:37.59 | joga | (well, a week or two ago actually) |
| 07:38.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | hildon is stopping and freeing several preloaded processes like brwoserd, modest, dialer whatnot |
| 07:38.17 | joga | ok |
| 07:38.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | a simple htop should tell who's eating your RAM |
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| 07:39.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw those stopped processes also get restarted once RAM situation is less critical |
| 07:40.59 | joga | xorg and browserd are at the top currently, I couldn't look into it when I got the notification |
| 07:42.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you did some 'silly' stuff on ssh? |
| 07:42.32 | joga | no, I was just ircing :) |
| 07:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | like piping enormous amounts of data? |
| 07:42.44 | joga | nah |
| 07:43.36 | joga | I think I'll remove qtlockscreen, it takes a few megs and seemed to bug out more than be useful |
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| 07:43.44 | joga | had to try it :) |
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| 07:54.54 | mintux | what is the last version of meamo? |
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| 08:02.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | pr1.3.1 official |
| 08:02.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | though: Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 |
| 08:02.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | CSSU |
| 08:04.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4.1 is of yesterday |
| 08:04.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
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| 08:05.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | so pretty sure it's the latest though not last version of maemo ;-) |
| 08:06.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh, or maybe you meant fremantle/maemo5 which definitely is the last maemo flavour |
| 08:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | some call harmattan maemo6 |
| 08:07.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | but officially that's meego harmattan (N9) |
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| 08:11.54 | mintux | what is different between COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin and VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin ? |
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| 08:26.58 | Pali | mintux, combined is maemo 5 image, emmc is image for emmc (which only clean MyDocs) |
| 08:27.21 | Pali | if you want to flash maemo, just use combined image |
| 08:27.35 | Pali | emmc is usefull only for cleaning MyDocs |
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| 08:32.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 08:32.42 | infobot | it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 09:33.01 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/19/java_java_everywhere/ |
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| 11:08.55 | jonwil | hi |
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| 11:29.31 | jonwil | pali: ping |
| 11:29.41 | Pali | jonwil, pong |
| 11:30.18 | jonwil | anything further on the battery temperature stuff? |
| 11:31.33 | Pali | jonwil, I have bad news |
| 11:31.41 | jonwil | which is? |
| 11:32.23 | Pali | I asked nokia devs and he told: he does not remember math formula but it depends on calibration data |
| 11:32.37 | jonwil | ok |
| 11:32.38 | Pali | from CAL partition stored at factory |
| 11:33.07 | Pali | so I think reading twl madc temeprature from adcin0 is not possible... |
| 11:33.17 | jonwil | probably some tuning done based on the value the thermistor gives vs some existing calibrated value |
| 11:33.25 | jonwil | that is an external something at a known temprature |
| 11:34.43 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, see ^^^^ |
| 11:34.52 | jonwil | Actually, if we can find where in the CAL it comes from, it might make it slightly easier to reverse engineer the BME code |
| 11:35.20 | jonwil | the bad news of course is that if it comes from the CAL, we cant just use a lookup table |
| 11:36.35 | Pali | jonwil, look at calvaria code |
| 11:36.46 | Pali | it parse CAL partition and also show BME data |
| 11:36.54 | Pali | but BME data are binary hexdump |
| 11:37.09 | Pali | no idea what from that is data for temperature |
| 11:37.34 | Pali | I think the best will be stop looking at twlmadc and using temperature from bq27200 chip |
| 11:37.48 | Pali | it will not be temperature of battery but temperature of chip |
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| 11:38.22 | Pali | but better then something which depends on undocumented CAL and madc... |
| 11:38.26 | jonwil | yeah |
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| 11:44.45 | jonwil | only things that care about BME temp are module-nokia-voice from PA, hald-addon-bme and libthermalobject_surface for dsme |
| 11:45.30 | jonwil | not sure exactly who is reading temp from hald-addon-bme if any |
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| 11:51.17 | jonwil | I have no idea how sensitive the users of BME temp readings are to the actual temprature or whether they just need some suitable value |
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| 11:55.56 | Pali | jonwil, I will write email to that (now past) nokia dev if he did not remeber something... |
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| 11:58.18 | jonwil | ok |
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| 12:10.54 | kerio | TabletEvil: boooooooo |
| 12:10.57 | kerio | go away |
| 12:11.05 | kerio | your device is bad and you should feel bad |
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| 12:12.40 | SpeedEvil | I'm trying to find out how to use Bluetooth for mobile net on it. |
| 12:12.48 | SpeedEvil | With n900 |
| 12:13.05 | kerio | SpeedEvil: do you want to use PAN? it's harder |
| 12:13.08 | SpeedEvil | Sharing files works, but... |
| 12:13.12 | kerio | otherwise, bluetooth DUN will work fine |
| 12:13.21 | kerio | you have to install the package for it, on the n900 |
| 12:13.27 | kerio | and then use it as a bluetooth gprs modem |
| 12:13.45 | SpeedEvil | Not seen that option on jellybean. |
| 12:14.11 | kerio | \_o_/ |
| 12:14.29 | SpeedEvil | Currently trying to work out pogo pins and stuff. |
| 12:16.01 | SpeedEvil | And if the RAM/Rom can be upgraded. |
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| 12:21.10 | kerio | hm, does anyone know if the five brightness levels of the settings menu and/or the status menu applet can be changed? |
| 12:22.55 | Pali | kerio, yes |
| 12:23.14 | kerio | cool, how? |
| 12:23.17 | Pali | writing directly to /sys/class/backlight/.... |
| 12:23.21 | Pali | as root |
| 12:23.22 | kerio | i disabled the light sensor, and now i have less granularity than i'd like |
| 12:23.24 | kerio | ¬.¬ |
| 12:23.31 | kerio | i wanted to use the cute lil' applet |
| 12:24.13 | Pali | echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness |
| 12:24.16 | Pali | echo 255 > /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness |
| 12:24.27 | Pali | you can adjust value between 0 - 255 |
| 12:24.37 | Pali | you need to run this as root! |
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| 12:26.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: Pali: strace bme (and dsme? and libcal?), check what data chunk it reads from there at startup |
| 12:27.06 | jonwil | we know how to read the BME blob from the CAL |
| 12:27.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | create a shellscript job to grep that chunk from /dev/mtd |
| 12:27.11 | jonwil | which BME does |
| 12:27.23 | jonwil | what we dont know is the layout of that CAL blob |
| 12:27.26 | jonwil | BME reads it all at once |
| 12:27.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | make 50 users run that script and post their results |
| 12:27.36 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, I think better solution is really to use temp value from bq chip |
| 12:27.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: bq temp is bogus |
| 12:28.16 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, math formula is unknown.... it depends on data from cal |
| 12:28.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 12:28.40 | Pali | if we got value from cal how get that math formula?? |
| 12:28.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I expect to see very little variation on CAL for thermistor calibration |
| 12:29.05 | jonwil | there might be no variance for thermistor |
| 12:29.08 | Pali | do you disassemble bme code and find formula? |
| 12:29.14 | jonwil | but its part of a larger blob that's read all at once |
| 12:29.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | a brainfart of EE, just wanna calibarte each nonsense |
| 12:29.24 | jonwil | and other things in it will be different |
| 12:29.43 | Pali | (((((2099203 - (1LL<<31)) * level * 6000) >> 32) - ((level * 6000 << 1) >> 32) + (level * 6000)) >> 9) |
| 12:29.47 | jonwil | in fact, I see BME code writing to the same CAL block during its operation |
| 12:29.50 | Pali | this is formula for battery level |
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| 12:30.06 | Pali | which I disassembled from binary bsi-read |
| 12:30.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: I don't expect bme *writing* calibration data of thermistor |
| 12:30.24 | Pali | sorry but this looks like nonsense! |
| 12:30.32 | jonwil | its writing other data |
| 12:30.46 | jonwil | and its impossible to know which of the many numbers in the same big monolithic CAL blob we want |
| 12:30.57 | Pali | run calvaria |
| 12:31.05 | Pali | and you see that bme block has a lot of data |
| 12:31.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: we most likely don't want any data of the blob that's written |
| 12:31.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | bme will just read one blob, on startup |
| 12:31.53 | Pali | http://pastebin.com/1AHa7N2e |
| 12:32.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | one blob that's never written and most likely never again read on same bme run |
| 12:32.24 | Pali | this is my data from CAL under section bme |
| 12:32.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, after all it's calibration data that is not supposed to ever change |
| 12:32.59 | jonwil | I am staring at the BME ASM right now |
| 12:33.03 | jonwil | and it seems to read that entire lot in |
| 12:33.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: bme is known to write bullsh*t data about battery state to CAL |
| 12:33.11 | jonwil | and make changes to the bits that matter |
| 12:33.24 | jonwil | then write it back as one unit |
| 12:33.29 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, that data must be in that dump :D |
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| 12:34.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: are you sure there's no other blob read at startup |
| 12:35.01 | jonwil | nope, there is only one BME blob |
| 12:35.05 | jonwil | the one pali pasted |
| 12:35.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, BME blob as in what? |
| 12:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | tagged "BME"? |
| 12:35.26 | Pali | yes |
| 12:35.32 | Pali | but in lower bme |
| 12:35.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | could have "my lovely grandma told me to name it that way" tag |
| 12:36.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not relevant how it's tagged |
| 12:36.17 | jonwil | trust me, I can see all the tags BME is reading |
| 12:36.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it matters if bme is reading it ONCE during startup |
| 12:36.27 | jonwil | via its calls to cal_read_block |
| 12:36.33 | jonwil | and the only one it reads is bme |
| 12:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 12:36.44 | jonwil | oh wait it also reads r&d_mode |
| 12:36.48 | SpeedEvil | Pali: on my device 2-255 1 is off too |
| 12:36.55 | jonwil | but that's clearly not what we are looking for |
| 12:37.21 | Pali | SpeedEvil, what? |
| 12:38.14 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, other tag names which are in CAL has other meaning... they are not used for bme for sure |
| 12:38.29 | kerio | hrmpf, what's the best BL-5J to buy, as of now |
| 12:38.30 | kerio | ? |
| 12:38.31 | Pali | tag mac address or codelock is not for bme |
| 12:38.49 | kerio | the links on TMO for the good batteries all lead to sites with no availability |
| 12:39.13 | SpeedEvil | Pali: brightness |
| 12:39.31 | Pali | ah, ok |
| 12:40.19 | Pali | I'm using echo 100 > /sys... in fanoush bootmenu |
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| 12:45.17 | jonwil | ok, I just found the function in BME that returns the battery temperature to libbmepic |
| 12:45.29 | jonwil | the one that fills in the emsg_battery_info_reply structure |
| 12:45.32 | jonwil | investigating now |
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| 12:55.47 | Pali | jonwil, ok |
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| 12:59.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: \o/ |
| 12:59.40 | jonwil | ok, so the code for reading temp calls a function and passes the value 5 to it |
| 13:01.23 | jonwil | time to load BME into GDB again |
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| 13:09.15 | jonwil | ok, that doesn't help |
| 13:09.27 | jonwil | it ends up in the same place I was trying to reverse engineer the other day |
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| 13:40.01 | jonwil | ok, I think I am going to do something I have been meaning to for a while, document all the external things that the ICD WLAN plugin talks to |
| 13:40.24 | jonwil | and the other wlan related bits (security etc) |
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| 13:45.56 | Pali | jonwil, better write new wlan plugin which will use wpa_supplicant :D |
| 13:46.09 | jonwil | thats what I mean |
| 13:46.12 | jonwil | we find all the external bits |
| 13:46.16 | Pali | wpa_supplicant working fine on n900 for wl1251 driver |
| 13:46.27 | jonwil | then someone writes new plugin that exports the rights bits to the rest of the system |
| 13:46.44 | Pali | and I'm using it for usb ethernet 802.1X authentication |
| 13:47.10 | Pali | 100MBps internet on n900 :D |
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| 14:04.45 | kerio | Pali: haha, neat |
| 14:05.13 | kerio | hmm, how much power does a usb ethernet card require? |
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| 14:08.22 | Pali | kerio, my working without external hub |
| 14:08.23 | kerio | Pali: does it work with 200mA? |
| 14:08.25 | kerio | yay |
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| 14:29.59 | zeq | freemangordon: I'm preparing new toolchains with the libc+kernel-cssu-headers straight from the SDK. |
| 14:31.20 | zeq | Once that's done it should make it much easier to set up an SB env with the new compilers without kernel header issues. |
| 14:32.57 | zeq | Ideally I'd like to build libc as part of the process based on the sb toolchain build process including thumb2 libc libraries, but that can wait. |
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| 15:12.21 | jonwil | ok, looks like someone already wrote libicd-network-wpa :) |
| 15:21.07 | Pali | jonwil, I remember that there is some code which calling wpa_supplicant |
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| 15:25.25 | freemangordon | zeq: sounds good, but you'd better not touch libc |
| 15:27.23 | freemangordon | zeq: which gcc is that, 4.7.2? |
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| 15:28.54 | zeq | freemangordon: is it a problem to rebuild libc from the maemo libc source pkg? |
| 15:29.47 | zeq | right now I'm just extracting the maemo libc bin pkg into my build tree. |
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| 15:30.28 | trx | zeq when you do that, can it be inserted into scratchbox as a new target? |
| 15:30.38 | zeq | but for a _proper_ sb toolchain it's necessary to (re-)build libc. |
| 15:31.07 | zeq | trx: yes, that's the usual method |
| 15:31.15 | freemangordon | zeq: ok, if you say so. I told you I am not SB guru. |
| 15:31.16 | freemangordon | :) |
| 15:31.18 | trx | zeq great |
| 15:31.38 | trx | please let me know when you complete it, i would like to have it :) |
| 15:31.45 | zeq | freemangordon: neither am I, I've just been reading the docs ;) |
| 15:34.09 | freemangordon | zeq: which toolchain is that, linaro gcc 4.7.2? |
| 15:34.43 | zeq | I'll make multiple builds |
| 15:34.51 | zeq | the new linaro toolchains |
| 15:35.31 | zeq | and vanila 4.6 maybe vanilla 4.7 |
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| 15:36.11 | freemangordon | zeq: why? |
| 15:36.25 | zeq | at least the neon intrinsics bug in linaro 4.6 has been fixed |
| 15:36.25 | zeq | don't know whether 4.7 is now good too |
| 15:36.28 | freemangordon | lets just stick to latest (so far) that does the job |
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| 15:36.54 | freemangordon | zeq: what was that 12.07 we were expecting? |
| 15:37.00 | zeq | that's probably linaro-4.6, maybe linaro-4.7. Need to test. |
| 15:37.37 | zeq | yep, new linaro's are out |
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| 15:38.14 | freemangordon | well, lets try them, and if they work, stick to them, why do we need 10 toolchains? |
| 15:38.43 | zeq | of we don't :) it's just I need to build them to test them :P |
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| 15:40.47 | freemangordon | zeq: :) |
| 15:42.02 | freemangordon | zeq: BTW not that I am trying to push you or something, but isn't it better to update the bug report for fennec, I think romaxa wats for some progress from our side. Unfortunately I don't have time now to do it, as I am preparing a new cssu-thumb update |
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| 15:42.51 | zeq | freemangordon: you're right, I should. |
| 15:43.38 | zeq | I'll get on and do that shortly |
| 15:44.00 | freemangordon | zeq: fennec on n950 stutters in the same way as on n900 with HW accel enabled :( |
| 15:44.55 | freemangordon | I tried to disable it (on n950) but it is giving me white image, only while scrolling there is something |
| 15:45.32 | freemangordon | so it seems EGL is FUBAR on SGX |
| 15:49.09 | zeq | probably should ask romaxa about that |
| 15:49.33 | zeq | I expected it to work on HARM |
| 15:49.58 | zeq | perhaps it's because the N950 has an older sgx driver? |
| 15:50.16 | zeq | (compared to N9) |
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| 15:53.17 | freemangordon | zeq: don't think so |
| 15:53.24 | freemangordon | they should one and the same |
| 15:53.31 | freemangordon | *should have |
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| 15:57.29 | zeq | N9 has seen a lot more updates hasn't it? |
| 15:57.58 | zeq | need somebody with a N9 to compare |
| 15:58.44 | zeq | I need to go mow the grass before the gf gets back. I'll get onto that bug afterwards :) |
| 15:59.24 | freemangordon | zeq: ok |
| 15:59.41 | RiD | real men cut grass one by one |
| 15:59.44 | RiD | they don't use mowers |
| 16:00.01 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 16:00.21 | RiD | or "real men use flamethrowers to cut grass" |
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| 16:57.46 | zeq | might have been easier one blade at a time, tricky avoiding all the frogs! |
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| 17:06.17 | zeq | freemangordon: shall I attach the patches as they stand to new bugs, or change the defines as romaxa suggested first? |
| 17:07.36 | zeq | Romaxa felt it would be better to have a specific define for need_client_rotation |
| 17:08.27 | zeq | specificall he said USE_ORIENTATION_SENSOR_FOR_WIDGET |
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| 17:09.24 | zeq | I just made up the previous from memory :) |
| 17:09.31 | zeq | clearly it can't be trusted :P |
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| 17:24.37 | jonwil | does anyone here have an N900 that is (or has been in the past) connected to a WiFi network with any kind of security other than plain WEP? |
| 17:24.40 | jonwil | e.g. WPA |
| 17:24.59 | Sc0rpius | I use WPA2 |
| 17:25.10 | jonwil | ok |
| 17:25.17 | Pali | WPA2 |
| 17:25.42 | wmarone_ | WPA2 at home for the... entirety I've had my N900 |
| 17:26.07 | Sc0rpius | actually, who uses WEP anymore? |
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| 17:26.14 | jonwil | I do |
| 17:26.19 | Sc0rpius | :S |
| 17:26.21 | jonwil | my router is old |
| 17:27.16 | vi__ | you know something is up when you are ssh'ing from you n900 to you n950 because it is easier to fiddle that way! |
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| 17:28.08 | jonwil | ok, so for the guys who are using WPA, anyone here have only one WiFi network defined in their phone? |
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| 17:28.40 | user | no, sorry. |
| 17:28.49 | Pali | no, I have a lot of APs |
| 17:28.57 | jonwil | ok |
| 17:29.03 | jonwil | actually thats still useful |
| 17:29.11 | zeq | vi___: keyboard not nice? |
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| 17:29.27 | zeq | vi___: no landscape? |
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| 17:32.31 | vi___ | zeq: landscape is...uh...poorly supported. |
| 17:32.41 | vi___ | and the xterm sucks |
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| 17:32.57 | zeq | you could port a better xterm? |
| 17:33.00 | vi___ | there is a 10-30mS lag on typing. |
| 17:33.06 | vi___ | zeq: ha |
| 17:33.08 | zeq | yuck |
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| 17:33.40 | zeq | rotation is client-side so it depends if the xterm is using pixman accel |
| 17:34.08 | vi___ | I literally have no idea. |
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| 17:34.29 | vi___ | I have had about 45 minutes to play with it in 2 days so far. |
| 17:34.59 | vi___ | It seems too fragile to risk as using as my primary fone. |
| 17:35.13 | zeq | vi___: MeeGo/Mer guys are convinced client-side rotation is the way to go. |
| 17:35.15 | vi___ | n900 4 lyf! |
| 17:35.58 | vi___ | zeq: that is the applications dealing with rotation themselves right? |
| 17:36.02 | zeq | yes |
| 17:36.37 | zeq | on Fremantle the xserver does it AFAIK |
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| 17:37.19 | zeq | so as far as client apps are concerned just the size changes |
| 17:38.57 | vi___ | zeq: that seems kinda logical I guess. |
| 17:39.10 | zeq | each has its pros and cons |
| 17:39.29 | vi___ | however what happens if xorg tries to rotate AND the application tries to rotate? |
| 17:39.56 | zeq | I don't think the xserver on HARM/MeeGo supports it |
| 17:41.24 | ZogG_laptop | ~bylaws |
| 17:41.29 | ZogG_laptop | ~future |
| 17:41.29 | infobot | future is probably bright |
| 17:41.36 | zeq | vi___: orientation transitions should be faster, are they? |
| 17:41.38 | vi___ | ~caniedit |
| 17:41.44 | vi___ | ~icanedit |
| 17:41.59 | vi___ | yes. |
| 17:42.03 | ZogG_laptop | vi___: did you get phone or not, you ignored me few times already =\ |
| 17:42.29 | vi___ | zogg, I leave my irc logged in at work. |
| 17:42.52 | vi___ | it is running through opera browser to get around them banning my work ip |
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| 17:43.03 | vi___ | so I miss al sorts of messages. |
| 17:43.05 | vi___ | yes. |
| 17:43.14 | vi___ | I have a sexy n950. |
| 17:43.30 | qwazix | kerio, find battery yet? |
| 17:43.35 | vi___ | it is the sexiest piece of hardware I have ever seen. |
| 17:43.40 | qwazix | s/find/found |
| 17:44.00 | vi___ | it is made of metal ffs! |
| 17:44.12 | vi___ | who builds a metal phone these days? |
| 17:44.25 | zeq | vi___: hopefully the Jolla devices will be as nice |
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| 17:44.47 | qwazix | vi___, i'm afraid the screen bezel is going to wear off |
| 17:44.58 | vi___ | zeq: agreed. Hopefully they will not have such a gimpy, girls OS as well. |
| 17:45.03 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: your pcam on github right? |
| 17:45.03 | qwazix | did you see that the paint is so thin the led shines through it? |
| 17:45.09 | vi___ | zeq: are you uk? |
| 17:45.11 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: on harmattan org repo |
| 17:45.14 | qwazix | right, |
| 17:45.24 | zeq | vi___: yes |
| 17:45.24 | qwazix | github.com/qwazix/rawcam |
| 17:45.37 | vi___ | I assume you do not have one? |
| 17:45.39 | qwazix | and also a fork at harmattan organization |
| 17:46.04 | zeq | vi___: me? I only have an N900 |
| 17:46.24 | zeq | (my 3rd N900!) |
| 17:46.40 | vi___ | well if you are ever in edinburgh, you can come and have a good play on it. |
| 17:47.07 | zeq | vi___: My gf loves Edinburgh ;) |
| 17:47.36 | vi___ | what city are you? |
| 17:47.50 | zeq | vi___: Bracknell, Berkshire |
| 17:48.00 | vi___ | berks! |
| 17:48.12 | vi___ | ...I have never been. |
| 17:48.28 | zeq | vi___: Right next to Ascot, SE of Reading. |
| 17:48.36 | vi___ | Or perhaps I went through on a canal boat once. I cannot remember. |
| 17:49.19 | vi___ | ZogG_laptop: as a new harmattan user, what are the must do/have things I should install/do first. |
| 17:49.38 | vi___ | ZogG_laptop: right now I am attempting to remap the keyboard. |
| 17:49.56 | vi___ | ~icaneditthis |
| 17:50.07 | vi___ | goddammit |
| 17:50.13 | zeq | I've only been to Edinburgh once. Visited with my girlfriend of the time. |
| 17:50.13 | vi___ | DocScrutinizer06: ping |
| 17:50.24 | qwazix | vi___, home screen settings for landscape |
| 17:50.49 | vi___ | zeq: tis a nice city. |
| 17:50.49 | vi___ | qwazix: where is it? |
| 17:50.50 | qwazix | ovi |
| 17:50.58 | vi___ | do I have to enable extra repos? |
| 17:51.08 | vi___ | are there any extra repos? |
| 17:51.18 | vi___ | which is the best xterm? |
| 17:51.36 | qwazix | rzr's community repo and martink's gtk repo are a must |
| 17:51.39 | vi___ | is there an easy way to get debian chroot scripts up and running? |
| 17:52.11 | qwazix | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82114 |
| 17:52.12 | vi___ | qwazix: how does one add repos? do I edit sources.list? |
| 17:52.16 | qwazix | yep |
| 17:52.23 | ZogG_laptop | vi___: battery usage, filebox, iception, meecode(qr code), screenshots, imgrup(my app to uload imgs to imgur), there is reddit app. i dunno what else |
| 17:52.31 | qwazix | did you flash open mode? |
| 17:52.32 | ZogG_laptop | vi___: there are few really good games |
| 17:52.34 | vi___ | also, where the F* can Install vim from? |
| 17:52.46 | qwazix | vi___, no idea about vim |
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| 17:52.59 | vi___ | qwazix: not yet. |
| 17:53.06 | ZogG_laptop | vi___: on OBS there is vim. as well u might like finger term |
| 17:53.15 | ZogG_laptop | drop cache and apps4meego repo |
| 17:53.16 | qwazix | you 'd better do it now because it requires full reflash |
| 17:53.27 | qwazix | and you'll lose everything |
| 17:53.40 | qwazix | also debian chroot is blazingly fast |
| 17:53.41 | vi___ | I still have not found a proper pros/cons of each mode. |
| 17:54.00 | merlin1991 | vi___: it's easy |
| 17:54.01 | vi___ | qwazix: that is what has convinced me to keep the n950. |
| 17:54.05 | merlin1991 | closed mode: aegis |
| 17:54.08 | merlin1991 | open mode: no aegis |
| 17:54.13 | merlin1991 | nothing else |
| 17:54.20 | vi___ | merlin1991: but what do I lose? |
| 17:54.24 | merlin1991 | nothing |
| 17:54.28 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i have funtoo chroot now |
| 17:54.34 | merlin1991 | except for "security" |
| 17:54.34 | vi___ | merlin1991: what about paid for ovi content? |
| 17:54.39 | qwazix | the only problem I had (don't know if it's open mode related for sure) is that twitter auth went bonkers |
| 17:54.39 | merlin1991 | still works |
| 17:54.52 | qwazix | yep that I can confirm |
| 17:54.59 | vi___ | ~gentoosmite ZogG_laptop |
| 17:54.59 | infobot | ACTION spends 5 weeks recompiling ZogG_laptop, and when it's all done, ZogG_laptop runs no faster than previously |
| 17:54.59 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: just install inception and aegisctl and than ariande aegisctl -s =) |
| 17:55.39 | qwazix | and you gain a BSW :) |
| 17:55.44 | vi___ | so do I lose access to paid ovi store content with open mode? |
| 17:55.57 | qwazix | no, paid content works fine |
| 17:56.04 | vi___ | echo 3 > /opt/vm/drop_caches |
| 17:56.31 | vi___ | ^can i haz monies for my app naow? |
| 17:57.03 | vi___ | is there a harmattan equivalent of alarmed? |
| 17:57.21 | qwazix | it has something called timed |
| 17:57.21 | vi___ | it sounds like open mode is THE way to go. |
| 17:57.41 | qwazix | not sure if it is really equivalent |
| 17:57.49 | vi___ | qwazix: can I run scripts in a cron like fashion? |
| 17:57.57 | vi___ | doc|home: ping |
| 17:58.03 | qwazix | I don't know |
| 17:58.20 | vi___ | ~ificanedit |
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| 17:58.23 | vi___ | ffs |
| 17:58.29 | vi___ | what is it called? |
| 17:58.34 | qwazix | All I know it's the recommended api for apps if they want to do things in the background in an interval |
| 17:58.47 | vi___ | qwazix: ty |
| 17:59.06 | vi___ | tiny debian laptop. |
| 17:59.22 | vi___ | I have literally waited decades for this device. |
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| 17:59.38 | qwazix | (and looks like a mac too) |
| 18:00.02 | vi___ | is ~/.profile aegis protected? |
| 18:00.18 | vi___ | ~icanedit |
| 18:00.22 | vi___ | ~ificanedit |
| 18:00.25 | vi___ | ~ificaneditthis |
| 18:00.32 | vi___ | ffs |
| 18:00.40 | vi___ | ~list |
| 18:00.40 | infobot | one warez list being sent |
| 18:00.54 | vi___ | ~stfu infobot |
| 18:01.11 | qwazix | ehm, I think I saw that editing .profile results in bad things |
| 18:01.26 | qwazix | but I'm not sure it was harmattan |
| 18:10.35 | qwazix | I bought this http://thenokiareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Nokia-Capacitive-Stylus-SU-39-Nokias-Universal-Stylus.jpg, thought would be awesome with the N950 but it doesn't work (it apparently works only on C6's) It needs bigger touch area, and I wonder if filing the tip down would make it work (or destroy it) |
| 18:10.54 | qwazix | It does work if you touch the side of it to the screen though... |
| 18:12.23 | vi___ | .profile... |
| 18:12.28 | vi___ | edited! |
| 18:12.44 | vi___ | step 1. Colour xterm prompt. |
| 18:12.56 | vi___ | That is much more civillised. |
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| 18:28.41 | vi___ | is off to flash openmode |
| 18:39.20 | zeq | vi___: maybe you could tweak the touchscreen driver? |
| 18:39.34 | zeq | sorry qwazix I mean |
| 18:40.05 | zeq | it's probably a threshold in the driver, rather than a hardware feature |
| 18:40.06 | qwazix | zeq, to make the stylus work? |
| 18:40.10 | zeq | yeah |
| 18:40.39 | qwazix | nice idea, any pointers? do we know anything about the driver? is it open? |
| 18:40.54 | zeq | qwazix: no idea :) |
| 18:41.18 | qwazix | i'll have a look |
| 18:41.21 | zeq | chances are it's the X input driver |
| 18:41.31 | zeq | rather than the kernel module |
| 18:41.45 | zeq | just guessing though |
| 18:41.52 | qwazix | let's see what google has to say |
| 18:42.22 | zeq | is afk |
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| 18:50.32 | vi___ | I am frankly astounded at the sheer volume of shit in the ovi store. |
| 18:51.52 | Gh0sty | there is an ovi store? |
| 18:51.55 | Gh0sty | and you use it? |
| 18:52.00 | Gh0sty | never used it :p |
| 18:52.05 | Gh0sty | did i mis out? :p |
| 18:52.13 | wmarone_ | ovi store? |
| 18:52.14 | wmarone_ | heh |
| 18:52.25 | wmarone_ | my transactions were always rejected when buying... anything... from Nokia |
| 18:52.51 | qwazix | vi___, most of the apps are ovi app wizard rss readers, with misleading titles and high prices just to increase app count |
| 18:53.00 | vi___ | 1GBP for a 'wallpaper'. WTF. |
| 18:53.33 | qwazix | Not only Nokia doesn't confine them to a category, it allows those misleading titles like cpubooster etc. |
| 18:53.33 | vi___ | Is that your mighty 1000000 appz apple? |
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| 18:54.57 | qwazix | zeq, google has absolutely nothing on the N9 touchscreen configuration, and only one result relevant to capacitive touchscreen sensitivity on linux, which gives a nice idea (find /sys | grep sensitivity) but that returns nothing |
| 18:55.38 | qwazix | neither find /sys | grep touchscreen or capacitive or touch |
| 18:56.10 | vi___ | qwazix: it will not be listed as nicely as that. |
| 18:56.21 | vi___ | search for 'input0' |
| 18:56.32 | qwazix | hmm, lets see... |
| 18:56.34 | vi___ | or the name of the driver chip |
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| 19:03.38 | beford | probably #mer or #nemomobile people know i |
| 19:03.40 | beford | it* |
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| 19:10.10 | qwazix | ha! I found /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-2/2-004b/microamps_requested_AVdd |
| 19:10.26 | qwazix | and microamps requested_Vdd |
| 19:10.49 | DocScrutinizer06 | ~tell vi_ about may-i-edit |
| 19:10.49 | qwazix | and gains |
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| 19:14.34 | DocScrutinizer06 | qwazix: never occurred to me you could need to pipe find output to grep |
| 19:15.06 | DocScrutinizer06 | I always thought the -iname parameter was meant for that |
| 19:15.09 | qwazix | find alone fills your screen with permission denied's |
| 19:15.34 | DocScrutinizer06 | uhuh, and piping stdout to grep doesn't? |
| 19:16.51 | DocScrutinizer06 | find /sys -iname '*sensitivity*' 2>/dev/null | less |
| 19:17.54 | qwazix | yes it's stupid, I just copied it from a website and it's late so I didn't think about it |
| 19:18.21 | qwazix | I use find -name whatever when I write it by myself |
| 19:18.47 | qwazix | I just saw it didn't throw permission denieds and I thought that's why he did that |
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| 19:29.04 | qwazix | hmm, nothing obvious, anyway I give up for now |
| 19:34.21 | freemangordon | to anyone who is interested - new cssu-thumb is out, includes thumb-compiled microb-engine |
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| 19:37.39 | vi__ | freemangordon: your my hero |
| 19:38.15 | vi__ | I am going to go full retard here... |
| 19:38.31 | vi__ | is kp51 thump compatable? |
| 19:39.28 | vi__ | freemangordon: also, have you become so frustrated you have mapped tab onto your n900 kbd yet? |
| 19:42.24 | freemangordon | vi__: kp51 should be compatible, but thumb mp- thingie is not ready yet, I am wating Pali to push changes to kernel-cssu |
| 19:42.36 | StyXman_ | more about jolla: http://www.intomobile.com/2012/07/11/interview-jussi-hurmola-ceo-jollamobile-audio-and-text-available/ |
| 19:42.58 | kerio | vi__: not on this n900, but i used to have it on fn+bksp |
| 19:43.05 | kerio | and esc on shift+bksp |
| 19:43.43 | kerio | and pgup/pgdn/home/end on fn+up/down/left/right |
| 19:44.12 | DocScrutinizer06 | on a sidenote, pali not only spotted a bug in scratchbox today, but also ships a cssu-uninstaller now |
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| 19:45.42 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer06: the bug Pali spotted is the same one that causes MAG to ship thumb-compiled binaries and is known for about an year ;) |
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| 19:46.04 | DocScrutinizer06 | yep, but not known it's genuine |
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| 19:46.31 | freemangordon | vi__: I didn't understand the "tab" question |
| 19:48.07 | freemangordon | vi__: BTW how do you like your n950 after playng with it for a while? |
| 19:48.32 | DocScrutinizer06 | burps |
| 19:48.37 | kerio | DocScrutinizer06: does a hub connected to the n900 correctly report devices plugged in/removed? |
| 19:48.58 | DocScrutinizer06 | yes |
| 19:49.58 | kerio | so... why is nobody selling one-port hubs with a microusb B plug for the host and a microusb B port for power yet? |
| 19:50.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least that's the tale |
| 19:50.25 | kerio | (also, how much power does the typical usb hub require for itself?) |
| 19:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | 100mA |
| 19:50.53 | kerio | so... 100+500+500? |
| 19:50.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | by definition more than real life |
| 19:51.10 | kerio | the wallcharger is 1100, in theory |
| 19:51.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | is it? |
| 19:51.57 | kerio | i thought it was |
| 19:52.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, a proper externally powered USB hub should 'need' 0 from host, and deliver 500 to all downstream ports |
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| 19:53.18 | vi__ | kerio: this will blow your mind |
| 19:53.27 | vi__ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 19:53.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I'm not sure if it still negotiates 100mA for itself, with host |
| 19:53.47 | kerio | yeah but can you make a proper externally powered USB hub with one port that also delivers 500 upstream, if you only have the n900 wallcharger for power? |
| 19:54.14 | vi__ | freemangordon: I meant re-mapping n950 keyboard to include important keys like esc and tab |
| 19:54.45 | kerio | vi__: oh god don't do this to me |
| 19:54.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: in theory: yes |
| 19:55.02 | vi__ | kerio |
| 19:55.07 | kerio | i'm pretending the default layout is enough because otherwise i have to start working on my layout again |
| 19:55.21 | kerio | to also add compositing accents and programming symbols |
| 19:55.35 | vi__ | kerio: I have every conceivable key on the n900 board, including right and middle mouse clicks! |
| 19:55.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | WOOHOOO \o/ |
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| 19:56.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | RMB MMB awesome! |
| 19:56.39 | kerio | neat |
| 19:56.55 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: it allows MMB pasting in xterm. |
| 19:57.05 | vi__ | which rules. |
| 19:57.15 | kerio | i might skip F1...F12 |
| 19:57.22 | kerio | so i have more space to fit italianities on the top row |
| 19:57.22 | vi__ | no more opening menu and clicking paste like a chimp |
| 19:57.32 | ZogG_laptop | http://www.electricimp.com/product/ - nice sdcard with WiFi |
| 19:57.49 | vi__ | kerio: well there are rumours even more than 4 levels. |
| 19:57.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: cooool |
| 19:58.14 | vi__ | X K B C E P T I O N |
| 19:58.21 | kerio | vi__: yeah but you have to use the russian layout or some shit |
| 19:58.29 | vi__ | kerio: yeah. |
| 19:58.40 | vi__ | F6 is worth it though. |
| 19:58.49 | kerio | for what? |
| 19:59.00 | vi__ | it allows you to switch between xterm fullscreen on/off |
| 19:59.08 | kerio | ...shit, i need that |
| 19:59.13 | kerio | isn't F6 one of the volume keys? |
| 19:59.29 | vi__ | kerio: you certainly do. |
| 19:59.34 | kerio | hmm, i wonder if it's doable with shortcutd, with the camkey focus longpress |
| 19:59.45 | kerio | how fullscreen? |
| 19:59.49 | kerio | does the stupid toolbar stay? |
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| 20:01.07 | vi__ | once you have all this, you can go FULL full screen ALL THE TIME. |
| 20:01.07 | vi__ | none of that retarded pop-up symbols bullshit. |
| 20:01.07 | vi__ | no pressing tab on the soft row. |
| 20:01.30 | vi__ | you can get rid of stupid toolbar with a gconf setting |
| 20:01.50 | vi__ | it allows for a completely full fullscreen. |
| 20:01.56 | kerio | yeah, i used to do that |
| 20:02.00 | vi__ | f6 lets you come back |
| 20:02.28 | vi__ | ...and your the first person I have ever told. |
| 20:02.33 | kerio | http://i.imgur.com/UoeZM.png <-- this is how i feel |
| 20:02.50 | vi__ | hah |
| 20:02.57 | kerio | vi__: i might try to do something with shortcutd |
| 20:03.01 | kerio | maybe camkey focus longpress |
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| 20:04.07 | vi__ | kerio: no way. save that for skip music track! |
| 20:04.27 | kerio | vi__: bitch please |
| 20:04.34 | kerio | i use bluetooth headphones |
| 20:04.36 | kerio | with full controls and shit |
| 20:04.43 | vi__ | -_- |
| 20:05.00 | vi__ | I like the stock headphones... |
| 20:05.06 | vi__ | is that so wrong? |
| 20:05.38 | Sicelo | stock N900 or N950? |
| 20:05.51 | kerio | vi__: you suck |
| 20:06.01 | vi__ | n900, the n950 does not come with headphones. |
| 20:06.26 | Sicelo | ah (well, didn't know about N950, lol) |
| 20:06.44 | Sicelo | anyway, vi__ .. i also like my N900 stock headphones :) |
| 20:06.48 | vi__ | n950 accessories include a usb cable and a cardboard cox. |
| 20:06.52 | vi__ | ^box |
| 20:07.03 | kerio | also, you haven't thought about using the proximity sensor for an extra mute key |
| 20:07.05 | kerio | maybe alt |
| 20:07.26 | kerio | vi__: how do i run something that pretends i inputted a key? |
| 20:07.38 | vi__ | xdo |
| 20:07.45 | vi__ | or somthing |
| 20:08.21 | kerio | vi__: no, i want answers! |
| 20:08.21 | kerio | D: |
| 20:10.14 | kerio | hm, xdotool |
| 20:10.29 | vi__ | I cant remember what it is called. what are you trying to do? |
| 20:10.44 | kerio | shortcutd has a "run shell command" setting |
| 20:11.00 | kerio | so i can make camkey focus longpress act as a F6 key |
| 20:11.14 | vi__ | how novel. |
| 20:11.17 | kerio | :3 |
| 20:11.37 | vi__ | why not just use the keyboard? |
| 20:11.49 | kerio | because i have no idea whatsoever of what to do with the F keys |
| 20:11.51 | kerio | anywhere |
| 20:12.23 | kerio | neat, it works |
| 20:12.24 | vi__ | you can use them with programs in easy debian. |
| 20:12.26 | kerio | xdotool key F6 |
| 20:12.39 | kerio | vi__: easy debian is bullshit |
| 20:12.43 | vi__ | kerio: that was fast. |
| 20:12.51 | vi__ | kerio: I beg you pardon? |
| 20:13.17 | vi__ | kerio: easy debian is possibly the greatest thing on the n900. |
| 20:13.56 | vi__ | full access to the debian repos... |
| 20:14.06 | vi__ | just think about that for a moment. |
| 20:14.41 | kerio | vi__: by the way, your layout is ass |
| 20:14.48 | kerio | fourth level z and fourth level x are the same key |
| 20:14.54 | kerio | i mean, they're sent at the same time |
| 20:15.15 | kerio | vi__: easy debian is just a novelty |
| 20:15.22 | kerio | you really don't want to use those programs anyway |
| 20:15.26 | kerio | unless it's terminal stuff |
| 20:15.27 | vi__ | kerio: my layout is not ass you rude little fuckwit. |
| 20:15.29 | kerio | which runs fine in maemo |
| 20:15.31 | kerio | vi__: :c |
| 20:15.45 | vi__ | go read how the keyboard works. |
| 20:15.58 | kerio | vi__: i did, and i made tests |
| 20:16.03 | vi__ | there are certain 4th level bugs. |
| 20:16.08 | kerio | fn+shift+z and fn+shift+x do the same stuff for me |
| 20:16.15 | kerio | so mapping {} on them is useless |
| 20:16.21 | vi__ | that send pairs |
| 20:16.26 | kerio | at most you can map a key to one, and set the other to none |
| 20:16.34 | kerio | (the 4th level, i mean) |
| 20:16.59 | jonwil | ok, I posted all the notes on the things you would need to know to completly replace the Maemo5 WiFi infrastructure without breaking things |
| 20:17.09 | vi__ | well in my experiance, you rarely use a [ without a ] later. So this takes advantage of this and puts them both up. |
| 20:18.15 | vi__ | kerio: have a good think about it. you will see it is the best that can be made of an annoying hardware bug. |
| 20:18.20 | vi__ | jonwil: where? |
| 20:18.33 | kerio | vi__: ...still dirty |
| 20:18.45 | Sicelo | jonwil: \0/ |
| 20:18.46 | jonwil | to maemo-developers |
| 20:18.53 | kerio | also it wouldn't work at all for nethack |
| 20:19.37 | vi__ | jonwil: ty |
| 20:19.42 | jonwil | This is what you need to replace osso-wlan, osso-wlan-security, libicd-network-wlan, libicd-network-wps and libicd-network-eap |
| 20:19.46 | vi__ | kerio: it works fine for NH |
| 20:20.14 | jonwil | I suggest libicd-network-wpa is a good place to start for any new M5 wlan work |
| 20:20.18 | kerio | vi__: no, because i can't type ( to choose weapons in the menus and not tools |
| 20:20.24 | kerio | er, wrong way around |
| 20:20.46 | vi__ | what? |
| 20:20.48 | vi__ | ( |
| 20:20.50 | vi__ | and |
| 20:20.52 | vi__ | ( |
| 20:20.59 | kerio | no, ( and ) |
| 20:21.00 | vi__ | work fine |
| 20:21.09 | vi__ | ) |
| 20:21.10 | vi__ | ( |
| 20:21.12 | kerio | tools open stuff, weapons close them (in a way) |
| 20:21.12 | vi__ | () |
| 20:21.24 | kerio | vi__: yeah, if you can backspace and delete one of the two :) |
| 20:21.28 | vi__ | blue+h=( |
| 20:21.36 | kerio | oh right |
| 20:21.38 | vi__ | blue+j=) |
| 20:21.49 | kerio | wait, why did you add that to 4th level j/k then? |
| 20:21.51 | jonwil | hopefully the info I posted will be of value to someone |
| 20:22.13 | kerio | oh, for coding |
| 20:22.13 | kerio | i see |
| 20:22.17 | kerio | ...hrmpf |
| 20:22.21 | vi__ | because that pair has the same bug. |
| 20:22.33 | kerio | i want to say the same thing about [ and ], but you never want to select mimics anyway |
| 20:22.35 | vi__ | so you may as well make use of it. |
| 20:22.49 | kerio | (your layout has no {} btw) |
| 20:22.56 | vi__ | yes it does |
| 20:23.11 | kerio | oh, braceleft/braceright |
| 20:23.11 | vi__ | 4th n and m |
| 20:23.19 | kerio | i see |
| 20:23.37 | jonwil | ok, its 4am here, zzz time |
| 20:23.40 | jonwil | later guys |
| 20:23.47 | vi__ | bb jonwil |
| 20:24.12 | vi__ | kerio: you are basically being told 3 years of tweaks hacks and scripts right off the bat here. whatever you think of has already been tried. |
| 20:25.00 | kerio | yeah, i used to have that kind of stuff on my old n900 (with a heavily modded italian layout) |
| 20:25.06 | vi__ | that xdotool on a shortcut? allready suggested to send a space character so stock media player would pop up virtual keyboard. |
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| 21:31.16 | merlin1991 | http://hexxeh.net/?p=328117859 |
| 21:31.59 | merlin1991 | srly, the new hype isn't "on a mobile device" but "on a raspberry pi" ffs it's just another arm device nothing different from arm phones / tablets / whatever |
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| 21:32.57 | Raimu | merlin1991: Except it was really cheap. |
| 21:33.15 | merlin1991 | yeah but still uh oh there's going to be chromium for the rpi |
| 21:33.30 | merlin1991 | no there's going to be chromium for hardfp arm, could run ie on the n9 |
| 21:33.46 | Raimu | Yup. |
| 21:36.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: like poele who say internet when in fact they meant http:// |
| 21:37.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/poele/people/ |
| 21:37.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and think http:// when they read or hear internet |
| 21:38.23 | merlin1991 | talking about the internet, the other day I learned that there is more to dns than A AAAA CNAME and MX records :) |
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| 21:39.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | orly? :-D |
| 21:41.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | what did you find? |
| 21:42.40 | kerio | hahaha |
| 21:43.05 | merlin1991 | srv :D |
| 21:44.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah, learnt about it during twinkle times |
| 21:44.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | SIP |
| 21:44.40 | kerio | DNAME! |
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| 23:44.47 | infobot | Never heard of it. |
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| 23:47.50 | merlin1991 | infobot is not good at geogrpahics :D |
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