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| 00:06.00 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, I was able to repair keyboard, that I've mentioned about having "overactive" z. To my pleasant surprise, disassembling domesheet was piece of cake, same for assembling |
| 00:06.13 | Estel_ | it turned out that this devil is only scarry on paintings. |
| 00:06.54 | RiD | "domesheet" that word always get me |
| 00:07.09 | Estel_ | Unsticking white adhesive was very easy, without any pre-heating -it seem to be containing this kind of glue, that can be sticked and unsticked many times, easidly, without loosing adhesivness |
| 00:07.18 | Estel_ | RiD, why? :) |
| 00:07.43 | Estel_ | design of this keyboard is very simple and very clever, effective... |
| 00:07.59 | RiD | "to ma pleashant shurpraise disassembling da dome sh-t was a piece of cake" |
| 00:08.31 | RiD | talking about keyboard, are your keyboard keys wearing out? |
| 00:08.45 | RiD | some of my keys are looking horrid |
| 00:08.55 | Estel_ | metal plates are easidly removable and attachable to other place. As long as You have this metal thing ok (or You manage to bring it ok via hot/cold) it's pleasure to repair |
| 00:09.04 | Estel_ | RiD, hehe, mine doesn't in any way |
| 00:09.10 | RiD | :( |
| 00:09.19 | RiD | mine looks a piece of crap |
| 00:09.24 | Estel_ | I was always wondering, are they differrent between revisions, so much? |
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| 00:09.29 | RiD | i think so |
| 00:09.41 | RiD | some were more shiny, others more square-ish |
| 00:09.49 | Estel_ | 2101 I have seems undestructible |
| 00:09.56 | RiD | well |
| 00:09.58 | Estel_ | and I write much on N900 (and fast) |
| 00:10.03 | RiD | how fast? |
| 00:10.05 | Estel_ | (even now I'm writing on it) |
| 00:10.18 | RiD | i can't write more than 65wpm on this keyboard |
| 00:10.33 | Estel_ | no freaking idea, I've never measured it |
| 00:11.03 | RiD | google 10 fast fingers or so |
| 00:11.11 | Estel_ | ;) |
| 00:11.18 | RiD | it's a bit ugly to test using the browser anyways |
| 00:11.24 | RiD | it reacts slowly |
| 00:11.39 | Estel_ | better tell me, how to send fucking message on fucking facebook using microB. God, how I hate that portal. |
| 00:11.53 | Estel_ | Never ever use it, except for now, I must send one freaking message |
| 00:12.09 | RiD | better go to mobile facebook lol |
| 00:12.11 | Estel_ | created disposable identity, just for doing it, and trashing as soon as used |
| 00:12.43 | RiD | i hate how facebook is super basic on mobile mode, but now too complex on pc mode |
| 00:12.47 | Estel_ | gratz to faceshit, first page I see that doesn't register pressing button, even by cursor mode |
| 00:12.54 | RiD | the old facebook behave just right on microb |
| 00:13.05 | Estel_ | how to get old one? ;) |
| 00:13.10 | RiD | you don't |
| 00:13.27 | Estel_ | it isn't complex, it is brain fucked |
| 00:13.30 | RiD | well, there used to be greasemonkey scripts to get rid of the new "photo viewer" |
| 00:13.37 | Estel_ | it is not so basic, that it even doesn't work |
| 00:13.40 | RiD | that is somewhat iframe-like and therefore sucks on n900 |
| 00:13.45 | RiD | i think those still work |
| 00:13.53 | RiD | but you can't get rid of the timeline |
| 00:14.21 | RiD | photo theather killer, i think that was the name. too bad i flashed and didn't backup certain stuff |
| 00:14.24 | Estel_ | You can't imagine how I face this shit |
| 00:14.29 | Estel_ | s/face/hate/ |
| 00:14.43 | Estel_ | well, behavioral typo |
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| 00:14.50 | RiD | test one |
| 00:14.54 | RiD | s/one/two/ |
| 00:14.57 | RiD | oh nice |
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| 00:15.19 | Estel_ | is this fckin mobile shitface available via google, or only via some funky fuckin "app"? |
| 00:15.31 | Estel_ | ctcp what? |
| 00:15.41 | RiD | shh |
| 00:16.08 | RiD | mohammad has a decent facebook client, sociality |
| 00:16.26 | RiD | but you can use greasemonkey on microb and then install a script to get rid of photo theater |
| 00:16.30 | RiD | if that's what you want |
| 00:16.50 | RiD | and there were some other scrips to get rid of that top bar that follows you everywhere. |
| 00:16.51 | Estel_ | No way, I'm not installing anything facebook related on my precious device, even for sake of... whatever, basically |
| 00:17.00 | RiD | haha |
| 00:17.15 | Estel_ | You know funny thing? faceshit doesn't work on easy debian's chromium too |
| 00:17.23 | Estel_ | in fact, it works more on microB |
| 00:17.32 | RiD | lol, really? |
| 00:17.36 | RiD | try opera |
| 00:17.40 | RiD | with pc |
| 00:17.44 | Estel_ | yea. Maybe version is to old or whatsnot |
| 00:17.45 | RiD | with pc agent |
| 00:17.56 | Estel_ | good idea |
| 00:18.28 | RiD | i like opera a lot actually :p stutter scrolling but it has no issues on managing large images |
| 00:18.31 | Estel_ | well, we're updating ED to full wheezy release, so I think it will be compatible soon |
| 00:18.46 | RiD | updating what |
| 00:18.47 | Estel_ | I don't like opera , feel restrained on it |
| 00:18.54 | Estel_ | easy debian, dist-upgrade |
| 00:19.00 | RiD | oh right |
| 00:19.10 | Estel_ | we're actually using squezee-only release for some time |
| 00:19.16 | Estel_ | now wheezy is hitting stable |
| 00:19.27 | RiD | funny names |
| 00:19.40 | Estel_ | so time to upgrade. Sulu did awesome job, he managed to make newest pulseaudio compatible with Maemo's one |
| 00:19.51 | Estel_ | from toy story, IIRC |
| 00:19.55 | Estel_ | (names) |
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| 00:20.17 | RiD | taxis, taxis everywhere |
| 00:20.38 | Estel_ | as for keyboard, even after full de-sticking of domesheet, sticking it again in correct place was a piece of cake, due to "markers" like hole for screw, etc |
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| 00:22.05 | Estel_ | god, there is only one reason, that would make me install sociality, and I must have hit it right now. I just hope, that I can install, provide login credentials, send message, and purge |
| 00:22.33 | Estel_ | eh, maybe I should do full backupmenu backup before and restore it after, to avoid feeling dirty |
| 00:23.34 | Estel_ | my optfs is only 3.5 GB, what it is, backuping it and restoring, compared to shame of finding some facebook-related left-over config, after - lest say- 2 years |
| 00:24.13 | RiD | well use the mobile facebook site then |
| 00:24.18 | RiD | OH WAIY |
| 00:24.23 | RiD | DONT INSTALL SOCIALITY! |
| 00:24.27 | RiD | i remember now... |
| 00:24.38 | RiD | facebook api doesn't let you send private messages. only view |
| 00:24.50 | RiD | and that's what you want to do ... LOL |
| 00:24.56 | Estel_ | well, I just realized that my disgust for facebook is so strong that I can't manage to hit install button :P |
| 00:25.00 | Estel_ | woooot? |
| 00:25.07 | Estel_ | nice |
| 00:25.09 | Estel_ | sure |
| 00:25.17 | ashdgf | ~rape facebook |
| 00:25.18 | infobot | ACTION takes facebook behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 00:25.37 | Estel_ | well, thanks for warning :P |
| 00:25.42 | RiD | hehe |
| 00:25.56 | RiD | i should not have said that |
| 00:26.10 | RiD | to see you getting all pissed off when you realize you can't send a message |
| 00:26.14 | Estel_ | kingdom for deriving real mail from freaking facebook account |
| 00:26.35 | Estel_ | hehe |
| 00:27.56 | Estel_ | No, seriously, I preffered to travel ~200 fckn miles, to meet someone in person, instead of using this fckd in head portal |
| 00:28.29 | Estel_ | I just got bad timing - forget that academic year ended, so no way to meet at time and place I supposed to :P |
| 00:28.47 | RiD | how old are you, might I assk? |
| 00:28.53 | RiD | s/assk/ask/ |
| 00:30.02 | Estel_ | well. I'll try via iceweasel on easy debian, hah! N900 > faceshit |
| 00:36.57 | Estel_ | hhahahaha! |
| 00:36.57 | Estel_ | RiD, You know what? at the end, I managed to send it via microB |
| 00:36.57 | Estel_ | good old microB |
| 00:37.18 | Estel_ | should I feel offended via this question? :P |
| 00:37.47 | RiD | the age? no |
| 00:38.02 | Estel_ | let me count. I hate this question, always must count it. Lady in passport department looked at me stramgely, probably though if I'm pretending to be someone |
| 00:38.11 | Estel_ | no worries, I was joking |
| 00:38.20 | Estel_ | fuck, 24 |
| 00:38.32 | RiD | ah nice |
| 00:38.38 | RiD | now i know where you live |
| 00:38.43 | Estel_ | I'm sure no less than year ago I was 23 :/ |
| 00:39.01 | Estel_ | no problem ;) |
| 00:39.12 | Estel_ | but, where I do? |
| 00:39.31 | RiD | In the world |
| 00:39.54 | Estel_ | ...and You needed age to get that conclusion? |
| 00:40.09 | RiD | yes, it's crucial data |
| 00:40.14 | Estel_ | I wonder where would I live, if I would answer 17687 years old |
| 00:40.37 | RiD | somewhere around antartida |
| 00:40.51 | Estel_ | ... hey, how ya know? |
| 00:40.58 | RiD | which is what an online game says when it can't figure out twhere i live from my ip |
| 00:41.04 | Estel_ | s/ya know/would'ya know/ |
| 00:41.58 | Estel_ | well, it's almost like pirate's bays dating adverts, that show me "meet dating girls in poland" with photos of asians only |
| 00:42.03 | Estel_ | ;) |
| 00:42.26 | RiD | you have ads? :o |
| 00:42.40 | Estel_ | only the funny ones. |
| 00:42.40 | RiD | AdBlockPlus is wonderful |
| 00:42.44 | Estel_ | true |
| 00:43.00 | Estel_ | but it eats my precious 0.00001% of processing power! |
| 00:43.04 | Estel_ | no, seriously |
| 00:43.45 | RiD | i have an android tablet and i have to admit, it's really comfortable to browse with. |
| 00:43.46 | Estel_ | it is great tool, but I use noscript with whitelist, so by default, I don't see 99% of adds anyway |
| 00:44.21 | RiD | Fast, smooth, supports flash and so on. but has no ad blocking software support |
| 00:44.25 | RiD | makes me mad ^ |
| 00:44.26 | Estel_ | well, I feel it very comfortable to browse on N900, with chromium, for example |
| 00:44.43 | Estel_ | well, I suppose it also have problem with copy and paste? :P |
| 00:44.47 | RiD | microb shows its age on certain websites :/ |
| 00:44.49 | RiD | YES |
| 00:45.02 | RiD | sometimes copying won't copy, silly android |
| 00:45.16 | Estel_ | sure, You need xyz cores on tablet, to browse read-only sites :P |
| 00:45.16 | RiD | but thats pretty much i use the tablet for - browsing. and it does a nice job |
| 00:45.34 | RiD | its a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 |
| 00:45.36 | Estel_ | for that, You can use 10 years old netbook :P |
| 00:45.50 | RiD | i couldn't refuse buying it, it was 70% the normal price |
| 00:46.12 | RiD | + free 1GB per month 5/5 Mbps sim card |
| 00:46.16 | Estel_ | I also couldn't, if it would be 30% of normal price. Then I would sell it ;) |
| 00:46.21 | RiD | for unlimited time |
| 00:46.33 | RiD | wait i mean it was 40%. |
| 00:46.38 | Estel_ | have You heard that there are no free dinners? |
| 00:47.16 | RiD | it was my mother's company who got a new internet isp |
| 00:47.22 | RiD | and it's office box b.s. |
| 00:47.32 | Estel_ | but it reminds me, that it's time to get new contract with my mobile carrier |
| 00:47.45 | RiD | as a plus for them, for 130 they would get the tablet and that simcard |
| 00:48.31 | RiD | my father ended up paying the 130euros, and so we now have the tablet and the sim card with free internet (1gb as max, per month) |
| 00:48.55 | RiD | for at least 2 years, since that's the contract minimal time |
| 00:49.36 | Estel_ | well, I'm probably going to get new contract without device, but ultra-cheap monthly fee |
| 00:49.51 | Estel_ | if not, device for sale, immediately |
| 00:49.59 | RiD | haha |
| 00:50.12 | RiD | the tablet other than browsing is of no big use anyways |
| 00:50.26 | RiD | i installed some games to have some portable fun and that's it |
| 00:50.31 | Estel_ | agree, kinda wasted resources |
| 00:50.49 | RiD | but well, the price was delicious anyways |
| 00:50.51 | Estel_ | try X-Plane slices, they're best poor android have to offer |
| 00:50.56 | Estel_ | yep |
| 00:51.13 | RiD | i could easily sell it for 250 right now |
| 00:51.24 | Estel_ | except that gaming/browsing tblet for 130 euro sounds kinda overpriced. But You can always sell it, when bored |
| 00:51.32 | Estel_ | hehe, same thought |
| 00:52.00 | RiD | well, it's actually useful for a while so |
| 00:52.13 | Estel_ | faceshit have some funny propositions for me, when filling "job" field |
| 00:52.15 | Estel_ | NSA |
| 00:52.18 | Estel_ | MOSAD |
| 00:52.37 | Estel_ | well, tommorow they will offer "Cosanostra" too ;) |
| 00:52.42 | Estel_ | or Yakuza |
| 00:53.02 | RiD | mosad lol |
| 00:53.06 | Estel_ | seriously |
| 00:53.14 | Estel_ | they even have mosad logo |
| 00:53.21 | RiD | mwahahah |
| 00:53.34 | RiD | i've seen llama as a suggestion for the job field |
| 00:53.43 | Estel_ | 0_o |
| 00:53.54 | Estel_ | job - "serial killer" |
| 00:54.09 | Estel_ | hey, is there "mercenary"? |
| 00:54.15 | RiD | nonno |
| 00:54.25 | RiD | you fill serial killer |
| 00:54.27 | Estel_ | what a discrimination |
| 00:54.29 | RiD | and facebook says: |
| 00:54.45 | RiD | you might also want to check out these jobs: suicide bomber, mercenary, pedophile |
| 00:54.57 | Estel_ | hahaha |
| 00:55.13 | Estel_ | I wonder "friends" it might suggest |
| 00:55.33 | Estel_ | Manson |
| 00:55.35 | RiD | "scumbag drug dealer1" |
| 00:55.40 | Estel_ | Joe the Ripper |
| 00:55.41 | RiD | "scumbag drug dealer2" |
| 00:55.46 | Estel_ | :P |
| 00:55.53 | RiD | GodFather |
| 00:56.02 | Estel_ | opus dei... :P |
| 00:56.42 | Estel_ | You know, that automaticaly opening ceiling on london stadion have own twitter profile? |
| 00:56.48 | Estel_ | I wonder, what it tweets |
| 00:56.52 | Estel_ | "I'm opening" |
| 00:56.56 | Estel_ | "I'm closing" |
| 00:57.14 | Estel_ | and so goes on, probably |
| 00:57.22 | Estel_ | or does it have philosophical thoughts? |
| 00:57.28 | RiD | by the way, n900 dictionary is silly |
| 00:57.34 | RiD | i wanted to type jesus |
| 00:57.39 | RiD | typed instead "ej" |
| 00:57.41 | Estel_ | or maybe it's republican with "fuck the queen!" |
| 00:57.45 | RiD | and then it suggested ejaculation. .. |
| 00:57.48 | Estel_ | lmao |
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| 00:58.11 | Estel_ | I don't use it, honeslty. Have nice habit of adding password fields to dictionary |
| 00:58.26 | RiD | does that to me too |
| 00:58.34 | RiD | i never found myself using it either |
| 00:58.43 | RiD | but i occasionally do, for extra long words |
| 00:59.04 | Estel_ | IIRC, I've deleted databases and replaced them with dummy files without writing permissions |
| 00:59.27 | Estel_ | or smth like that |
| 01:00.02 | RiD | hmm, looks like there are 271 idlers |
| 01:00.12 | RiD | sleepy boys |
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| 01:04.39 | RiD | oh well, going to listen to some music then sleep |
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| 01:25.00 | RiD | it's time to say goodbye |
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| 07:42.44 | DocScrutinizer06 | LaoLang_cool: well, you're preaching to the choir |
| 07:43.29 | DocScrutinizer06 | timepicker and datepicker slotmachines are my favourite object to focus all my hate on them |
| 07:44.46 | joga | heh...they're pretty horrid |
| 07:44.54 | ShadowJK | the only things in m5 that's vsynced |
| 07:45.06 | DocScrutinizer06 | yeah, but iPhone'ish |
| 07:46.44 | DocScrutinizer06 | idly ponders to watch what became of his comment/bugticket on dev.nokia.com about slotmachine idiocy |
| 07:47.45 | ShadowJK | From news article about new ms office, it sounded like ms has replaced every font picker and menu thing with similar rotating sliding things in new office :P |
| 07:49.21 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer06, with hardware keyboard, I can pick time quicklk in some cases. |
| 07:49.33 | LaoLang_cool | s/qucklk/quickly/ |
| 07:50.28 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer06: add to that the clock use to se the hour when you turn on the phone for the first time |
| 07:51.23 | DocScrutinizer06 | yeah, the only place where they got it right, and that one isn't available as a widget anywhere |
| 07:52.46 | DocScrutinizer06 | on HARM the situation is kinda similar: MTF has a nice rotary dial with "hands" like a clock, but it's deprecated and none of the Q* frameworks has anything like that |
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| 08:11.59 | kerio | the clock-like time picker is awful |
| 08:13.27 | kerio | nowadays i just push "ok" and then sync the time with ntp or gps |
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| 08:16.29 | StyXman | hmm, ntp... |
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| 08:31.35 | DocScrutinizer06 | kerio: it's a number of magnitudes better than the slotmachine timepicker |
| 08:38.20 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer06: both are hard to use. the slotmachines are also slow |
| 08:38.46 | StyXman | specially with minutes and days of month |
| 08:39.30 | DocScrutinizer06 | StyXman: slotmachine for date has a number of severe shortcomings, too many to list them here right now |
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| 08:45.21 | kerio | well, what are you (the cssu dudes) waiting for? |
| 08:45.47 | ShadowJK | i think "slotmachine" describes the biggest problem well |
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| 08:56.56 | tox6 | can someone tell me what symton code 4101 means |
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| 08:57.52 | psycho_oreos | symton? |
| 08:58.09 | tox6 | symptom |
| 08:58.18 | tox6 | sorry |
| 08:58.20 | psycho_oreos | and from where did you see that? |
| 08:58.48 | tox6 | on the nokia extended warranty check |
| 08:59.08 | tox6 | on a printout they gave me |
| 08:59.46 | psycho_oreos | they gave you a print out with the numbers 4101.. that's not very useful isn't it? |
| 09:00.53 | tox6 | they said the phone had been scrapped prior to me buying is and gave me a printout with this code on it |
| 09:01.20 | tox6 | this 4101 was supposed to be the reason it was scrapped |
| 09:02.09 | psycho_oreos | my guess that 4101 could be the device's revision number. I can't see it being a symptom code without any further relevant information in regarding to it as being an issue |
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| 09:04.03 | psycho_oreos | so let me guess, you had to get your N900 repaired and they scrapped it for you? |
| 09:07.20 | tox6 | the phone was bought from a compan y on ebay |
| 09:07.46 | tox6 | just on phone to nolia |
| 09:07.52 | tox6 | nokia |
| 09:08.06 | tox6 | typing with one finger sorry |
| 09:08.37 | tox6 | but they are reluctant to tell me what code 4101 means |
| 09:09.33 | psycho_oreos | lol I guess that's nokia for you |
| 09:09.58 | tox6 | I am off the phone now |
| 09:10.33 | tox6 | in the first instance before I had told them the imei number of the phone they said it had been liquid damaged |
| 09:11.06 | psycho_oreos | from my best guesses, 4101 is revision number, every N900 has a revision number which is visible in a fair few places: 1) the packaging box, 2) through the flasher tool and 3) enabling r&d mode and seeing the green stuff printed over the nokia logo |
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| 09:11.29 | tox6 | but they could not possibly have been able to say that if they didn't have the phone details |
| 09:12.10 | tox6 | no its not a revision number its what they call a symptom code |
| 09:12.21 | psycho_oreos | well whoever scrapped it for you would have probably entered that information into a database of some sort |
| 09:12.27 | tox6 | its the reason they scrapped this phone |
| 09:12.56 | psycho_oreos | if that's the case then maybe liquid damaged = symptom code 4101? |
| 09:13.00 | tox6 | the phone was bought off ebay sold as new by a company called cellphoneforever |
| 09:13.14 | psycho_oreos | ahh that mob.. |
| 09:14.04 | psycho_oreos | recalls of that thread about the same ebay seller selling second hand (presumably stolen too) N900 as new or refurbished |
| 09:14.07 | tox6 | but when I took the phone to the nokia care center yesterday they told me this phone had originally been sold in Australia and was scrapped by nokia |
| 09:14.55 | psycho_oreos | yeah I think that's quite normal coming from that ebay seller |
| 09:15.51 | psycho_oreos | how much did you pay for it? |
| 09:16.37 | tox6 | the think is nokia are being a little dishonest trying to distance themselves by say this was liquid damaged and was sent back to the owner but nokia could not possibly know that without the imei number in other words they made that excuse up to absolve themselves I paid £129 |
| 09:17.41 | psycho_oreos | hmm almost the price of brand new N900 back then.. would have been ripped off |
| 09:17.47 | tox6 | on the printed I got from the nokia repair centre it says it was scrapped because of symptom code 4101 |
| 09:18.23 | tox6 | but the phone was scrapped in Australia 06-05-2011 |
| 09:18.36 | psycho_oreos | did you ask the staff there what exactly is symptom code 4101? |
| 09:18.49 | tox6 | I could do with know what symptom code 4101 means |
| 09:18.59 | tox6 | nokia wont tell me |
| 09:19.10 | psycho_oreos | I wouldn't personally know, I don't work in nokia.. |
| 09:19.37 | tox6 | I think they want to taylor their response to keep them out of this |
| 09:20.01 | psycho_oreos | in the worst case scenario I could only say that you have been ripped off from cellphonesforever. There was a rather nice tmo thread about this |
| 09:20.23 | tox6 | I think this cellphoneforever company might be the company which nokia sends the scrpped phones to and they are reselling some of them as new on ebay |
| 09:21.57 | psycho_oreos | that would be quite hillarious, people in the know purchasing second hand devices as new would be ripped off. Surely cellphonesforever can't be that naive to not realise they're not going to make profit if people started realising they were ripped off and gave the seller bad rating |
| 09:22.09 | tox6 | ebay have refused to disclose the seller address details as well |
| 09:23.26 | psycho_oreos | they normally would, but there might be ways to dispute the case by saying that you were ripped off. Not saying that there's any guarantees but hopefully you'll make a dent on their (cellphonesforever) reputation |
| 09:23.45 | tox6 | yes |
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| 09:25.25 | psycho_oreos | actually.. I just double checked the conversion rates and I was well off the mark there in terms of what you paid for would be close to the actual price for the device when it was brand new |
| 09:27.06 | psycho_oreos | but in either cases I wouldn't expect one to be selling N900 brand new.. nokia stopped manufacturing N900 ages ago and the people that tried to get their N900 repaired either got their N900 replaced with something that isn't even a maemo device or potentially a refurbished device |
| 09:28.38 | StyXman | psycho_oreos: ough, now I undestand why mine looks refurbished |
| 09:30.31 | psycho_oreos | StyXman, not saying that it is but the last I went on tmo I've been constantly hearing that N900 owners are often been given N8/E7. The `replacement' N900 (or was supposed to be..) was what I started hearing later on mostly through irc |
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| 09:31.52 | StyXman | psycho_oreos: I mean, I bouhgt it from the same vendor |
| 09:32.04 | StyXman | but I can't find the thread in tmpo |
| 09:32.10 | StyXman | only a short poll |
| 09:32.13 | psycho_oreos | StyXman, ... cellphonesforever? |
| 09:32.23 | StyXman | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82842&highlight=cellphonesforever |
| 09:32.30 | StyXman | psycho_oreos: yeah, or something similar |
| 09:32.46 | StyXman | IRRC there are two similarly called |
| 09:33.06 | tox6 | nokia is on phone again |
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| 09:34.12 | psycho_oreos | StyXman, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78605 <--- missing an extra s in cellphones |
| 09:34.27 | psycho_oreos | that was the thread that I responded |
| 09:34.34 | StyXman | psycho_oreos: ack |
| 09:34.56 | psycho_oreos | rather I responded with checking out the seller's info |
| 09:36.06 | psycho_oreos | StyXman, also searching for `cellphoneforever' instead of `cellphonesforever' yields plenty more results |
| 09:41.27 | kerio | gaaaah |
| 09:41.29 | psycho_oreos | heh even that link you posted had a user saying that cellphonesforever seems to be selling OEM/refurbished goods as new |
| 09:41.36 | kerio | why doesn't the file picker in microB work |
| 09:41.42 | kerio | fucking bullshit |
| 09:41.50 | psycho_oreos | bets cellphoneforever == cellphonesforever |
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| 09:49.44 | StyXman | well, mine looks like some liquid has been inside, and the usb port does not work for chargingn anymore (even when it looks firmly attached) |
| 09:54.28 | psycho_oreos | I'd get that microUSB port resoldered if I can. As for the liquid spillage that happened prior to your ownership.. there's no other real alternatives but to use the device as it is until it eventually becomes unusable |
| 09:55.54 | jacekowski | well, clean it with IPA |
| 09:56.33 | jacekowski | you can pretty much just spray ipa directly onto main board |
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| 10:01.58 | psycho_oreos | thought of a whacky idea and that is to soak N900 entirely into a tub of non-conductable oil and to use N900 permanently in that tub |
| 10:02.52 | psycho_oreos | at least the rust won't be able to eat any further lol, it cannot breathe for starters :D |
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| 10:17.08 | StyXman | jacekowski: IPA? |
| 10:17.59 | StyXman | Isopropyl alcohol |
| 10:18.58 | jacekowski | yes |
| 10:19.47 | StyXman | I should try |
| 10:20.58 | StyXman | any technique in particular, besides swabbing/rubbing it ? |
| 10:21.29 | jacekowski | well ideally you would leave it in ipa for some time |
| 10:21.35 | jacekowski | shaking it and everything |
| 10:21.41 | jacekowski | to make sure it can disolve everything |
| 10:21.45 | jacekowski | just the main board |
| 10:21.51 | jacekowski | as it will disolve plastic |
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| 10:23.49 | StyXman | not including the various films that support conducting lines? |
| 10:24.19 | StyXman | f.i., the ont connecting to the module close to the camera and the usb port... |
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| 10:26.07 | skope | wtf whole mobo in alcohol? |
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| 10:27.48 | jacekowski | ahm |
| 10:27.52 | jacekowski | i forgot about the camera |
| 10:27.58 | jacekowski | that may disolve |
| 10:28.12 | RiD | you are a bit nuts, aren't you? |
| 10:28.29 | skope | a bit |
| 10:28.31 | StyXman | ugh |
| 10:28.40 | jacekowski | StyXman: well, distilled water is safe |
| 10:28.47 | StyXman | hehehehe |
| 10:29.01 | jacekowski | StyXman: if you use normal water to dissolve most of the stuff |
| 10:29.07 | jacekowski | StyXman: and then rinse it with distilled |
| 10:29.15 | jacekowski | and then dry it on a heater |
| 10:29.42 | StyXman | heater as in hair dryer? |
| 10:29.48 | StyXman | sunrays work? :-P |
| 10:29.55 | jacekowski | well, depends on how much you trust your oven |
| 10:30.01 | jacekowski | if you can set it to 40C and not any more |
| 10:30.06 | jacekowski | you can dry it in there |
| 10:30.12 | StyXman | not much, it's electric and I'm not used to it |
| 10:30.33 | StyXman | definetely not try to set it at 40 or so |
| 10:30.46 | jacekowski | then hair dryer would do |
| 10:30.48 | RiD | but why are you talking about cooking an n900? |
| 10:30.51 | StyXman | it's not that precise |
| 10:31.07 | StyXman | RiD: om nom! |
| 10:31.15 | jacekowski | RiD: well, that liquid that was spilled on it |
| 10:31.18 | jacekowski | RiD: what was it |
| 10:31.36 | psycho_oreos | RiD, StyXman has got a refurbished N900 and he reckons the N900 has been through some liquid spillagfe |
| 10:31.44 | psycho_oreos | s/spillagfe/spillage/ |
| 10:32.01 | RiD | ok |
| 10:32.07 | RiD | .....o_o |
| 10:32.08 | StyXman | jacekowski: dunno, the stans look a little like copper rust |
| 10:32.26 | StyXman | I'll post photos some day |
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| 10:32.43 | psycho_oreos | could it be coffee? |
| 10:32.44 | StyXman | stains* |
| 10:32.56 | StyXman | psycho_oreos: no, more green than brown |
| 10:33.10 | StyXman | as in liberty statue green |
| 10:33.21 | psycho_oreos | thinks of green tea |
| 10:33.29 | jacekowski | StyXman: they use IPA in most PCB places to clean boards after assembly |
| 10:33.49 | jacekowski | StyXman: so IPA should be safe for non removable things |
| 10:33.53 | jacekowski | but camera is removable |
| 10:33.57 | StyXman | jacekowski: yeah, so I heard from some electronic geeks I know |
| 10:34.02 | jacekowski | it's just very complicated to remove |
| 10:34.17 | jacekowski | but water will be safe for everything |
| 10:34.26 | jacekowski | and then deionised water to rinse it |
| 10:34.34 | StyXman | jacekowski: I'l give it a try, altho I already failed disasembling a battery pack from my NB |
| 10:34.37 | jacekowski | it's not as good as IPA |
| 10:34.39 | psycho_oreos | except you need to dry the device properly after soaking the device in it |
| 10:35.03 | jacekowski | yeah, with IPA you don't have to bother with drying it will evaporate pretty much instantly on it's own |
| 10:35.13 | StyXman | well, an hour under the mediterranean sun should do, I guess |
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| 10:35.14 | jacekowski | with water you will have to dry it |
| 10:35.43 | jacekowski | yeah, then blow it with hairdryer to make sure it's all gone from small places |
| 10:35.49 | jacekowski | like from under bga chips and stuff |
| 10:36.09 | psycho_oreos | you could dry it as much as you can with microfibre cloth and if you could get your hands on maybe a soup bowl full of silica gel to dip your device in, that'd be handy as well |
| 10:36.57 | Lava_Croft | dont use cheap quality microfibre cloth |
| 10:37.03 | Lava_Croft | they leave tissue |
| 10:37.12 | psycho_oreos | doesn't think heating is a good way to treat a device that has already been heat treated (i.e. when the boards and chips were made). |
| 10:37.16 | jacekowski | well, paper towel would do it as well |
| 10:37.23 | jacekowski | as long as you blow it after |
| 10:37.38 | Lava_Croft | i prefer the expensive kind of paper towels |
| 10:37.39 | jacekowski | psycho_oreos: that's why i said 40C |
| 10:37.40 | Lava_Croft | less residue |
| 10:38.00 | jacekowski | 60C is safe as well |
| 10:38.07 | jacekowski | but 40C leaves a lot more margin for error |
| 10:38.18 | psycho_oreos | jacekowski, I dunno *shrugs* I reckon that is still a bit too high. If it were me I completely avoid any heat treatment |
| 10:38.43 | jacekowski | 40C is ambient temperature in some places |
| 10:39.11 | psycho_oreos | well yeah it is but to trust an oven :) |
| 10:40.02 | psycho_oreos | and I think decent microfibre cloths can be bought from car accessories shops |
| 10:40.14 | Lava_Croft | or people selling professional cleaning stuff:) |
| 10:40.23 | Lava_Croft | or if you have a good cleaner at your office orso, from them:) |
| 10:40.48 | Lava_Croft | the cleaner always has a stash of the things you happen to need |
| 10:42.01 | psycho_oreos | I'm a bit of a car nut so I still go get microfibre cloth from car accessories retailers myself. |
| 10:42.59 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: what car do you have? |
| 10:43.35 | Lava_Croft | psycho_oreos: ones with visible fibre or the more smooth-ish ones |
| 10:44.28 | psycho_oreos | vi_, *Eg* something like this: http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/120610/919r1/754487i_20.jpeg |
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| 10:44.39 | Lava_Croft | o... |
| 10:44.50 | psycho_oreos | Lava_Croft, for my car I use the visible fibre but I also happen to have smoothish ones when I do internal detailing |
| 10:45.00 | Lava_Croft | the visible fibre ones are better |
| 10:45.12 | Lava_Croft | the visible fibre ones also come in a special form for glass surfaces |
| 10:45.22 | Lava_Croft | which has much less visible fibre-ends |
| 10:45.31 | psycho_oreos | heh I personally thought it was the opposite |
| 10:45.34 | Lava_Croft | naw |
| 10:45.37 | Lava_Croft | im a professional cleaner:) |
| 10:45.56 | Lava_Croft | not the kind you see at your trainstation;) |
| 10:46.06 | Lava_Croft | the visible fibre ones are better in our experience |
| 10:46.07 | psycho_oreos | lol |
| 10:46.15 | Lava_Croft | and we clean houses that belong to rich folks etc :| |
| 10:46.19 | Lava_Croft | lots of high gloss white and black etc |
| 10:46.46 | psycho_oreos | heh black and white, the direct contrast of each other imo |
| 10:46.56 | psycho_oreos | err direct opposite |
| 10:46.58 | Lava_Croft | yes, but the worst surfaces to keep clean |
| 10:47.02 | Lava_Croft | thats why i chose em as example |
| 10:47.11 | psycho_oreos | indeed, white ones imo are worse than black |
| 10:47.12 | Lava_Croft | high gloss red is another shit one to keep looking dust-free |
| 10:47.19 | Lava_Croft | high gloss black is worse |
| 10:47.25 | psycho_oreos | :o |
| 10:47.25 | Lava_Croft | dust particles are much better visible on that |
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| 10:47.42 | Lava_Croft | you clean a highgloss black kitchen, turn around, exhale and zing |
| 10:47.44 | Lava_Croft | all dusty again |
| 10:48.05 | Lava_Croft | fingerprints also show much worse on black |
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| 10:48.24 | psycho_oreos | yeah I think they usually leave grey marks |
| 10:48.48 | psycho_oreos | greyish sort of smudge |
| 10:49.04 | Lava_Croft | we use a waterspray with some alcohol in it and those fibre-ish microfibre cloths |
| 10:49.07 | Lava_Croft | works really well |
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| 10:49.17 | Lava_Croft | say 90% water 10% alcohol orso |
| 10:49.20 | Lava_Croft | maybe even less alcohol |
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| 10:54.43 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: I am disappoint. |
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| 11:03.16 | Lava_Croft | vi_: thats an understatement the size of Nokia's blind spot |
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| 11:04.06 | kerio | i has a usb AF-AF adapter! :D |
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| 11:09.33 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hm, providing power to the device before enumerating it didn't work for me - is that intended? |
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| 11:09.53 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: did you see this car? |
| 11:09.57 | vi_ | http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/old-car-info/rover-sd1-27-litre-v12.html |
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| 11:13.07 | jacekowski | hmm, 27l |
| 11:13.15 | jacekowski | it's probably doing like 100l/100k |
| 11:13.18 | jacekowski | 100km* |
| 11:13.35 | vi_ | Apparently he fitted an LPG kit to try and tame the fuel costs a little bit. |
| 11:14.29 | vi_ | I have a soft spot for cars retro-fitted with plane/tank engines. |
| 11:15.28 | merlin1991 | what's an lpg kit? |
| 11:16.09 | vi_ | Liquid petroleum gas. |
| 11:16.28 | vi_ | merlin1991: In the uk LPG is taxed FAR less than petrol. |
| 11:16.39 | vi_ | So it works out around 1/3 cheaper. |
| 11:17.08 | jacekowski | vi_: everywhere |
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| 11:17.20 | dhbiker | jacekowski: Bentley Blower does 100l/100k |
| 11:17.21 | dhbiker | :D |
| 11:17.25 | jacekowski | vi_: and it's a lot cheaper even if taxes were at same level |
| 11:17.43 | vi_ | Another favourite is John dodds 'the beast'. |
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| 11:18.06 | kerio | Pali: now i can use host mode |
| 11:18.13 | vi_ | It was a 28-litre Merlin v12 as used in the WW2 spitfire fighter plane. |
| 11:18.17 | kerio | have you kicked the autobuilder into submission yet? |
| 11:18.48 | vi_ | Apparently it only made around 900bHP as he did not have the super chargers to go with it. |
| 11:19.01 | dhbiker | lol |
| 11:19.21 | vi_ | You must understand this was put in a homemade chassis, built in a shed in the 70's. |
| 11:19.32 | vi_ | The owner was a nutjob too. |
| 11:19.52 | vi_ | He put a Rolls royce grille on the front, homage to the Rolls Royce engine. |
| 11:20.00 | vi_ | They tried to sue him for this... |
| 11:20.10 | vi_ | ...He turned up for court on a white horse. |
| 11:20.18 | dhbiker | xD |
| 11:22.26 | vi_ | The car was later restored by John Dodd's son Paul Dodd and he also has a 2050 bhp (1530 kW) twin-supercharged Rolls-Royce Griffon 37 litre engine from a late-model Spitfire he is willing to put in a car if somebody would be interested in buying it. |
| 11:22.31 | vi_ | ^holy shit. |
| 11:22.42 | StyXman | vi_: LPG== gas? |
| 11:22.49 | vi_ | StyXman: yes |
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| 11:22.54 | StyXman | jo |
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| 11:23.02 | dhbiker | 37 litre ? |
| 11:23.14 | dhbiker | good fuel economy i guess |
| 11:23.39 | RiD | it's 2€ for 1 liter of petrol |
| 11:24.01 | dhbiker | 1.4€ here |
| 11:24.06 | RiD | that's 160€ to fill a 80 liter tank |
| 11:24.22 | RiD | dhbiker diesel is 1,64€ here *sigh* |
| 11:24.24 | dhbiker | before we went into EU it was about 0.3€ |
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| 11:29.20 | jacekowski | StyXman: it's not gas if you are american |
| 11:29.51 | StyXman | jacekowski: well, technically I'm from the american continent, but south of río grande |
| 11:29.53 | jacekowski | StyXman: it's gas as in gaseous |
| 11:30.00 | jacekowski | not gas as in petrol |
| 11:30.33 | jacekowski | it's liquefied petroleum gas |
| 11:30.51 | jacekowski | it's a gas at pressure high enough that it's a liquid |
| 11:31.03 | StyXman | yah, we call it compressed natural gas |
| 11:31.06 | jacekowski | no |
| 11:31.09 | jacekowski | that's a different thing |
| 11:31.12 | jacekowski | CNG != LPG |
| 11:31.16 | jacekowski | CNG == methane |
| 11:31.17 | StyXman | aha |
| 11:31.21 | jacekowski | hmm |
| 11:31.23 | jacekowski | not methane |
| 11:32.11 | StyXman | wp says methane |
| 11:35.51 | jacekowski | yeah |
| 11:35.52 | jacekowski | methane |
| 11:36.14 | jacekowski | LPG is more like a lighter gas |
| 11:36.23 | jacekowski | it's pretty much the same thing |
| 11:36.29 | StyXman | propane or butane says WP |
| 11:36.45 | jacekowski | yeah, same thing |
| 11:36.51 | jacekowski | slightly different mix |
| 11:37.09 | StyXman | we used to burn propane at home before they laid the natural gas lines |
| 11:37.16 | StyXman | but same principle |
| 11:37.22 | jacekowski | CNG is much better if you want to run your car on it |
| 11:37.25 | jacekowski | cheaper in long run |
| 11:37.26 | StyXman | I'm not picky on my gas choices :) |
| 11:37.27 | jacekowski | safer |
| 11:37.38 | StyXman | it's what we have in .ar |
| 11:37.53 | jacekowski | LNG if something goes wrong, you're going to end up with pool of liquid gas ready to explode |
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| 11:38.10 | jacekowski | and it will take hours to evaporate |
| 11:38.13 | StyXman | well, gas tanks have exploded before |
| 11:38.15 | sLumPia | .irchighway.net |
| 11:38.27 | jacekowski | CNG, if it leaks, it will be a gas |
| 11:38.43 | jacekowski | and will clear up much faster therefore |
| 11:39.34 | jacekowski | + you can get it cheap from gas mains |
| 11:39.40 | jacekowski | and all you need is a compressor |
| 11:39.44 | jacekowski | so you can get it tax free |
| 11:39.59 | jacekowski | it's probably very illegal |
| 11:40.01 | jacekowski | but people do it |
| 11:40.28 | StyXman | and yes, they *had* used propane tanks as cheap gnc tanks |
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| 12:03.49 | kerio | does the file browser work for someone, in microB? |
| 12:04.00 | kerio | to upload files and the like |
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| 12:12.15 | psycho_oreos | vi_, why disappoint? that link reminds me of the predecessor to Jay Leno's tank car |
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| 12:27.19 | StyXman | vi_: any car with a tempest's napier sabre IIA? |
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| 12:36.48 | psycho_oreos | the days of excessive number of pistons is outnumbered unless its in W configuration. These days manufacturers tend to push on with the idea of turbocharging/supercharging |
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| 12:38.19 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: The correct number of pistons is 1. |
| 12:38.28 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: The correct number of wheels is 2. |
| 12:39.03 | psycho_oreos | vi_, mower powered pushbike? |
| 12:39.10 | vi_ | -_- |
| 12:39.18 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: Thumpers for life! |
| 12:39.20 | psycho_oreos | vi_, and piston is 1, pistons isn't 1 :) |
| 12:39.28 | psycho_oreos | Thumpers? |
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| 13:14.30 | StyXman | psycho_oreos: maybe this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumper_%28motorcycle%29#Single |
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| 13:17.23 | psycho_oreos | ahh thosee |
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| 13:17.44 | StyXman | motorbikes that go pupf pupf pupf pupf |
| 13:18.05 | StyXman | you can actualy hear evry single stroke |
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| 13:48.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | 10L 1 piston diesel trecker |
| 13:49.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | with a huuuge steel wheel on the crankshaft |
| 13:50.20 | StyXman | 'lycrap |
| 13:50.41 | StyXman | url? |
| 13:50.49 | StyXman | I mean, that exists? |
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| 13:53.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Lanz_Bulldog_1928.jpg&filetimestamp=20060303160209 |
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| 13:55.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | ok, this one only 6.2L |
| 13:55.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | I thinks there's been a 10L model as well |
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| 13:56.17 | cehteh | Treibstoff: alles von Teeröl bis Benzin :) |
| 13:56.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | 1 gear |
| 13:57.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | reverse by reversing motor |
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| 14:00.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | IIRC you start it by heating it 10 min with a welder flame |
| 14:01.39 | vi_ | That is to pre-combust the wick. |
| 14:01.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | anybody knows of any SiliconErrata in OMAP4 regarding IRQ handling? |
| 14:01.54 | vi_ | Nope. |
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| 14:12.54 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: are you going to update h-e-n to use the KP51 stuff? |
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| 14:14.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | eventually |
| 14:15.02 | kerio | will there be a need for h-e-n if Pali releases the enhanced battery meter with the integrated usb hostmode switch? |
| 14:15.14 | kerio | or will *that* become h-e-n? |
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| 14:16.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | dunno |
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| 14:18.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | since all that stuff is a)still experimental and b)alternative/optional for the foreseeable future I guess there can be both |
| 14:21.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | h-e-n always been and will stay a kernel patch, the gui is just sooo minimalistic functionality-wise... I don't mind it getting replaced by anything better |
| 14:22.46 | kerio | i see |
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| 14:24.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | actually I could come up with a h-e-n gui shellscript 20-liner using zenity, in 2h |
| 14:24.36 | kerio | hm, what else is there in hostmode-gui? |
| 14:24.51 | kerio | the scripts that do stuff and the GUI that runs them? |
| 14:25.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep |
| 14:26.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | 3 or 4 write() to szsfs nodes, and a system() call to start my booston script |
| 14:27.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | actually yhe "boost" button is cruft, could get attached to the 3 speed selectors |
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| 14:32.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | and the enum button could be replaced by a sleep 15 if we check for success and repeat on failure |
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| 14:45.19 | kerio | why do we need an explicit "enumerate" button? |
| 14:46.03 | merlin1991 | for the fun of it ;) |
| 14:46.20 | merlin1991 | but mainly because we can only enumerate after the vbus is on |
| 14:48.34 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer51: WP knows il all. it mentoins the 10l motor |
| 14:50.31 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer51: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog <-- copied in .ar too |
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| 14:53.12 | kerio | merlin1991: yeah but why can't we do that automagically? |
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| 15:16.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: I elaborated about enum button 5 lines up |
| 15:16.39 | kerio | no, you said that i can be substituted by a loop |
| 15:16.58 | kerio | but why do we need an explicit enumeration? can't the kernel just wait for something to be connected? |
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| 15:17.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | no, as the usb test mode we use doesn't deliver connect-interrupt |
| 15:17.57 | kerio | i see |
| 15:19.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | a PITA |
| 15:20.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | but the only way to amke hostmode work |
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| 15:41.34 | kerio | DocScrutinizer06: does the "orientation" of the Y usb cable matter, if i want to charge the n900? |
| 15:41.44 | kerio | how is power distributed? |
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| 15:58.07 | freemangordon | zeq: ping |
| 15:58.57 | freemangordon | zeq: I was worried something bad has happened to you :) |
| 15:59.25 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 15:59.41 | merlin1991 | you scared him away ;) |
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| 16:00.00 | freemangordon | I see, but why? |
| 16:00.03 | freemangordon | :) |
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| 18:01.23 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what's the current "best" charging script? |
| 18:01.30 | kerio | i'm on kp50, so no fancy kerneling |
| 18:01.48 | kerio | and if i'm providing what i think is 500mA to n900 and a pen drive, how much will the n900 take? |
| 18:02.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | too much |
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| 18:02.25 | kerio | aww :( |
| 18:02.32 | kerio | oh well, at least it's not discharging too much |
| 18:02.59 | kerio | how do i check what's going on with the power? |
| 18:03.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think minimum untweaked charge.sh is 500mA |
| 18:03.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | but sorry I'm busy in other chan |
| 18:03.27 | kerio | dammit, i'm going to need a usb charger and/or a microusb-usb adapter |
| 18:05.02 | japh | you can use 2 ports at the same time |
| 18:05.07 | japh | ;) |
| 18:05.33 | kerio | japh: oh god, i suppose it would work |
| 18:05.38 | kerio | but i'd need another Y usb adapter |
| 18:05.51 | kerio | ...i can get one |
| 18:06.00 | kerio | but no, eventually i'm going to want to use the wallcharger i think |
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| 18:42.11 | kerio | Pali: what's your website? |
| 18:42.42 | Pali | kerio, atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali |
| 18:43.14 | kerio | now type that with an http:// at the beginning |
| 18:43.22 | MohammadAG | any icon designers? |
| 18:43.52 | Pali | s/atrey/http:\/\/atrey |
| 18:44.06 | kerio | :c |
| 18:44.17 | kerio | Pali: i had to copy! |
| 18:44.20 | kerio | and paste! |
| 18:44.26 | Pali | kerio, so run sed manually :D |
| 18:44.26 | MohammadAG | OH THE HORROR |
| 18:45.03 | Pali | or ask infobot why did not swapned sed for you |
| 18:45.52 | MohammadAG | trailing /? |
| 18:46.07 | kerio | you should've used a different delimiter |
| 18:47.39 | kerio | Pali: do i have to unload g_nokia before modprobing g_file_storage? |
| 18:47.48 | Pali | kerio, yes |
| 18:47.55 | Pali | only one gadget driver can be loaded |
| 18:48.07 | Pali | (gadget driver has prefix g_) |
| 18:50.50 | kerio | what happens if you let them fight over it? |
| 18:51.50 | kerio | Pali: hm, is there a way to limit the current absorption with bq2415x? |
| 18:52.23 | Pali | look at /sys/class/power_supply/bq... |
| 18:52.34 | kerio | i can't, i'm still on kp50 :) |
| 18:53.12 | Pali | there is some sysfs entry with name *current* |
| 18:53.19 | Pali | I do not remeber exact name |
| 18:53.38 | Pali | but all bq2415x chip configs are exported to /sys |
| 18:55.50 | kerio | Pali: ok, an even better question |
| 18:56.06 | kerio | is Stargus actually good? |
| 18:57.10 | Pali | kerio, Stagus is incomplete... |
| 18:57.30 | Pali | but Wargus is 90% clone of WAR2 |
| 18:57.54 | Pali | kerio, last version in extras has some problems (crashing...) |
| 18:58.23 | Pali | in summer we release new version which should fix a lot of bugs |
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| 19:05.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | stargus wargus wutmyus |
| 19:07.21 | kerio | Pali: just get a photo of Boxer playing bw on the n900 |
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| 19:38.14 | ShadowJK | wonders what kinda of apm flash would have playing bw on n900 |
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| 19:39.15 | ShadowJK | I played bw on oc once just to find out my apm |
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| 19:56.19 | vi__ | freemangordon: guess who got an email? |
| 19:57.26 | freemangordon | vi__: me :P |
| 19:58.02 | freemangordon | vi__: I have DHL tracking id, do you? |
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| 20:00.30 | vi__ | freemangordon: yeaaaahh booooi! |
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| 20:01.08 | freemangordon | vi__: yeah :D:D:D |
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| 20:05.45 | vi__ | when was yours shipped? |
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| 20:20.58 | vi__ | freemangordon: do you know if it using dhl nextday or what? |
| 20:21.17 | freemangordon | I think so, I expect my call tomorrow |
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| 20:21.32 | vi__ | ...2000 euros... |
| 20:21.45 | freemangordon | vi__: naah, I won't sell mine |
| 20:22.11 | vi__ | atta boy! |
| 20:22.14 | freemangordon | ...for anything lower than 20000 :P |
| 20:22.53 | MohammadAG | 30000 |
| 20:23.18 | freemangordon | yours is not for sale, you don |
| 20:23.24 | freemangordon | 't own it |
| 20:23.59 | MohammadAG | I'm buying it from you |
| 20:24.01 | MohammadAG | for 30000 |
| 20:24.10 | freemangordon | or you want to give me 30000 euros? |
| 20:24.24 | freemangordon | hmm, lemme think again when I have it in my hands |
| 20:24.26 | RST38h | Moo Mohammad |
| 20:24.28 | MohammadAG | I was thinking yens or lines of code |
| 20:24.38 | MohammadAG | but since you mentioned euros, I'll pass |
| 20:24.39 | MohammadAG | moo RST38h |
| 20:24.43 | RST38h | Mohammad: kittens, charge in kittens |
| 20:24.52 | freemangordon | MohammadAG: you think again too :P |
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| 20:25.21 | MohammadAG | I'll trade my kidney for a damn air condition right now |
| 20:26.28 | RST38h | Mohammad: Just move somewhere cold |
| 20:36.52 | MohammadAG | RST38h, wish I could |
| 20:37.19 | MohammadAG | finland's -40 seems attractive now |
| 20:37.30 | MohammadAG | at least when it's cold you can just wear more stuff |
| 20:37.35 | RST38h | Mohammad: .FI should currently be in the 18-25 range |
| 20:37.48 | MohammadAG | it's 31 right now |
| 20:37.58 | MohammadAG | and it's 11:37 |
| 20:38.00 | MohammadAG | PM |
| 20:38.00 | RST38h | Mohammad: You can get an Android phone and run Google Maps, they warm it up reaaaal damn nicely |
| 20:38.15 | MohammadAG | RST38h, try Waze |
| 20:39.05 | MohammadAG | green bugs freak me out |
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| 20:49.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | wetware overheated? green bugs... umm |
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| 20:56.23 | MohammadAG | The humidity in Haifa is unbelievable |
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| 20:56.38 | MohammadAG | Got out of AC'd car and my glasses fogged |
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| 21:00.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | wut? at 31°C? |
| 21:00.32 | RST38h | Mohammad: +38oC at Maryland right now |
| 21:00.50 | RST38h | Mohammad: Sunny. 29% humidity |
| 21:01.12 | RST38h | Mohammad: That is actually somewhat low for this time of year. Hope you feel better now. |
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| 21:20.18 | jacekowski | MohammadAG: do you know anything about saudi arabia? |
| 21:21.05 | MohammadAG | besides it being and hot and the people being rich but spending all their money on car hydraulics and tire rims with most of them dying in accidents cause of that, nope |
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| 21:21.28 | MohammadAG | - first and |
| 21:21.31 | jacekowski | really? |
| 21:21.45 | MohammadAG | well, anything else? :P |
| 21:21.57 | MohammadAG | RST38h, 29% is good |
| 21:22.00 | jacekowski | dunno, i'll be going there next week probably |
| 21:22.02 | MohammadAG | it's like 200% here |
| 21:22.05 | jacekowski | and i'm doing some research |
| 21:22.13 | jacekowski | and i thought you may know something |
| 21:22.16 | MohammadAG | stay away from roads at night |
| 21:22.28 | jacekowski | why? |
| 21:26.05 | MohammadAG | jacekowski, I can't find the not re-upped vid, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVNkc_uM58Q |
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| 21:27.20 | MohammadAG | jacekowski, cause? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGt0RnZcO88&feature=related |
| 21:32.23 | jacekowski | MohammadAG: but that's day not night |
| 21:37.43 | MohammadAG | jacekowski, nights are worse |
| 21:40.19 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: but the http://youtu.be/dGt0RnZcO88?t=38s part is quite impressive |
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| 21:40.59 | MohammadAG | heh |
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| 21:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: do you by any chance know of any SiErr in OMAP4 IRQ handling? |
| 21:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | or suspend/resume handling? |
| 21:55.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | even of any TI patches |
| 21:55.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ^^^ |
| 21:58.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least any clue whom/where to ask, or what to google for? |
| 21:58.12 | jacekowski | nope |
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| 22:35.56 | zeq | In case anybody's wondering, I'm still about. I've just been really busy... |
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| 23:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | about? |
| 23:03.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | memtest&; sleep 6h; aplay alarm.wav; kill memtest |
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