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| 01:54.21 | luke-jr | ZogG_laptop: pong |
| 01:54.29 | luke-jr | man, I have terrible latency |
| 01:57.19 | ZogG_laptop | =) |
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| 01:57.52 | ZogG_laptop | luke-jr: i see u use power kernel of maemo for gentoo as base right? |
| 01:58.10 | luke-jr | for now |
| 01:58.46 | ZogG_laptop | i wonder for n950 should i take harmattan's basic one or should i use gentoo's |
| 02:03.20 | luke-jr | there is about zero chance of any normal Linux working on it |
| 02:03.29 | luke-jr | Linux proper has never worked on NITs |
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| 02:21.27 | ZogG_laptop | luke-jr: |
| 02:21.32 | ZogG_laptop | NITs? |
| 02:21.42 | luke-jr | Nokia Internet Tablets |
| 02:22.18 | ZogG_laptop | luke-jr: btw interesting how many of things ou did to n900 would work on n9/50? |
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| 02:23.30 | ZogG_laptop | luke-jr: anyway i'll disturb you a lot when n950 gets to me =) |
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| 07:28.23 | Macer | wow did they make that easy heh |
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| 08:50.52 | vi__ | javispedro laying the smack down on his own hack. |
| 08:51.53 | DocScrutinizer | eh? |
| 08:53.46 | kerio | is there any reason not to always use the bleeding edge drivers? |
| 08:53.54 | kerio | aren't they, like, better? |
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| 08:55.39 | kerio | the bleeding edge wifi drivers, i mean |
| 08:57.15 | kerio | also, i think i'm doing it wrong |
| 08:57.24 | kerio | does extras-devel include extras-testing and extras? |
| 08:58.58 | DocScrutinizer | no |
| 08:59.21 | DocScrutinizer | there are pkgs in extras you don't find in extras-devel |
| 08:59.23 | DocScrutinizer | few |
| 09:01.01 | DocScrutinizer | however _usually_ extras-devel will have more recent versions than -testing (and this than extras), so you don't want to run huge updates with extras-* enabled |
| 09:01.31 | DocScrutinizer | since the versions in extras-devel are NOT supposed stable |
| 09:02.29 | DocScrutinizer | usual procedure: enable extras-devel, intsall the pkg you planned to, then disable extras-devel again |
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| 09:05.21 | kerio | hm |
| 09:05.30 | kerio | i might've already installed some stuff from -devel |
| 09:05.36 | kerio | i mean, upgraded |
| 09:05.38 | kerio | oh well |
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| 09:09.05 | ivgalvez | MohammadAG: ping |
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| 09:21.42 | kerio | hrmpf, why does fapman sometimes fail to start |
| 09:22.43 | vi__ | kerio: I only really use the drivers when I am uh...auditing. |
| 09:23.00 | vi__ | If you acidentally leave your NIC in monitor mode, bye bue battery. |
| 09:23.39 | kerio | vi__: yeah, but aren't the cool drivers cooler than the default? |
| 09:23.54 | freemangordon | yeah, by 2-3 degrees |
| 09:24.00 | kerio | freemangordon: i believe you |
| 09:24.14 | freemangordon | but it depends on the outside temp too |
| 09:24.45 | kerio | vi__: also, why can't cleven use the backported drivers, and has to use the ones in MyDocs? |
| 09:25.50 | kerio | oh no, nvm |
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| 09:38.04 | vi__ | kerio: becasue it is badly written. |
| 09:38.16 | vi__ | much like my spelling. |
| 09:38.27 | kerio | heh |
| 09:38.39 | kerio | although the latest version seems to require the backported drivers package |
| 09:38.44 | kerio | so there's that |
| 09:38.50 | vi__ | kerio: I do not use it. |
| 09:39.01 | vi__ | I prefer wifite. |
| 09:39.36 | vi__ | I accept that when it comes to wifi...auditing I am a script kiddie and cannot be bothered learning to use aircrack suite properly. |
| 09:39.58 | kerio | anyway, my question is actually different |
| 09:39.59 | vi__ | Therefore I prefer to use a completely autonymous tool. |
| 09:40.11 | kerio | aren't the backported drivers for wifi+bluetooth much better than the stock ones? |
| 09:40.12 | vi__ | What was your Q again? |
| 09:40.19 | kerio | regardless of... auditing |
| 09:40.24 | vi__ | You would hacve to ask the package maintainer. |
| 09:40.35 | vi__ | freemangordon: Are these backported drivers better? |
| 09:41.39 | vi__ | and no, I do not know what better means. A higher version number I think. |
| 09:42.45 | kerio | vi__: in theory, they add stuff like bluetooth cooperation |
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| 09:53.30 | freemangordon | vi__: but of course, they are cooler :P. NFC, you may want to as lxp, there was some table somewhere with comparison between stock/compat |
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| 09:57.11 | lardman | morning |
| 09:57.29 | lardman | I can't remember how to get to the package promotion page, could someone give me a clue please?:) |
| 09:57.37 | lardman | bbiab, meeting |
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| 10:01.19 | qwazix | DocScrutinizer, ping |
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| 10:01.29 | kerio | freemangordon: do you use them all the time? |
| 10:02.35 | kerio | how can i diagnose problems with mafw? |
| 10:02.46 | DocScrutinizer | qwazix: pong (for a minute) |
| 10:03.14 | qwazix | Is it easy to change the internal battery of the N900? |
| 10:03.28 | qwazix | I mean the battery that keeps time when you remove the blj |
| 10:03.44 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 10:03.59 | DocScrutinizer | ~bupbat |
| 10:04.05 | qwazix | thanks, |
| 10:04.08 | DocScrutinizer | umm |
| 10:04.30 | qwazix | because the guys at Nokia Care ***** ***** |
| 10:04.50 | DocScrutinizer | replace by a capacitor |
| 10:04.52 | qwazix | and I don't want to take it back again |
| 10:05.02 | DocScrutinizer | soldering needed, low skill profile |
| 10:05.18 | qwazix | hmmm, not very good at this... |
| 10:05.55 | qwazix | guess I'll go and buy a better iron, and have some practice first |
| 10:06.07 | DocScrutinizer | good plan :-D |
| 10:06.10 | kerio | no, seriously, what the hell is wrong with my mafw |
| 10:06.12 | kerio | it doesn't do shit |
| 10:06.12 | vi__ | qwazix: you would have to be a fecking ape to balls it up. |
| 10:06.40 | qwazix | thanks again, I'll search for the schematics, I hope I wont have to mess with the FPC |
| 10:06.43 | vi__ | kerio: wtf is wrong with my motorbike, it doesnt do shit. |
| 10:06.58 | DocScrutinizer | you always have to mess with FPC |
| 10:07.04 | kerio | vi__: i have no idea how to diagnose the problem |
| 10:07.17 | DocScrutinizer | afk, bbl |
| 10:07.43 | vi__ | ~FPC |
| 10:07.55 | vi__ | ~dict FPC |
| 10:07.56 | DocScrutinizer | flat plastic cable |
| 10:08.13 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer: how many plug/unplugs can you get from such a cable? |
| 10:08.15 | DocScrutinizer | flex plastic connector |
| 10:08.26 | DocScrutinizer | unsure, maybe 50 |
| 10:08.44 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer: that is a grim thought. |
| 10:09.07 | DocScrutinizer | have to run, cya |
| 10:09.21 | kerio | i tap on a song, and i get this: http://i.imgur.com/GaluA.png |
| 10:09.21 | vi__ | bb |
| 10:09.24 | qwazix | ~bupbat |
| 10:10.01 | vi__ | That is a problem with your media player, not necessarily mafw. |
| 10:10.10 | kerio | ok, fine |
| 10:10.17 | kerio | how do i diagnose what's the problem? |
| 10:10.26 | vi__ | kerio: did you perform a FULL COMPLETE re-flash when you got this n900? |
| 10:10.31 | kerio | yes |
| 10:10.48 | kerio | both vanilla and combined |
| 10:11.15 | vi__ | kerio: NFC. That is the beauty of the N900. Unlimited ways to mod, bodge, kludge and customise==unlimited ways to break things. |
| 10:13.07 | kerio | goddammit, this *is* a serious problem for me :s |
| 10:13.37 | DocScrutinizer | ~bupbat |
| 10:13.38 | infobot | it has been said that bupbat is http://www.mouser.com/catalog/632/2009.pdf http://il.farnell.com/taiyo-yuden/pas414hr-va5r/cap-0-06f-3-3v-80ohm-4-8mm-coin/dp/1853000?Ntt=PAS414HR-VA5R |
| 10:14.11 | kerio | it can't even change the volume |
| 10:14.15 | vi__ | Do you know how hard it is to troubleshoot over IRC? I literally have *no* idea what you have installed/changed/moved/rooted/scripted/hacked/modded/bodged. |
| 10:14.23 | DocScrutinizer | ~bupbat is also use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months |
| 10:14.23 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 10:14.28 | kerio | "Unable to execute operation" or something |
| 10:14.29 | kerio | :s |
| 10:14.35 | kerio | vi__: not much, in theory |
| 10:14.42 | vi__ | HAH |
| 10:14.52 | kerio | yeah, i know |
| 10:15.01 | DocScrutinizer | ~tell qwazix about bupbat |
| 10:15.45 | kerio | hm, there's actually a phantom playlist, apparently |
| 10:16.49 | qwazix | DocScrutinizer, thanks, checking it out now |
| 10:21.46 | qwazix | How much time can I expect from such capacitor to last. Enough to change sim card? |
| 10:22.47 | DocScrutinizer | weeks |
| 10:22.48 | qwazix | And, does it come with the feet soldered on? Why can't it just fit in the place of the battery. |
| 10:23.20 | DocScrutinizer | it fits |
| 10:24.11 | qwazix | wonders how the hell the battery from my 1991 kid icarus game boy cartridge still works... |
| 10:24.28 | Lava_Croft | kid icarus |
| 10:24.33 | Lava_Croft | god that one hell of an overrated game these days |
| 10:25.10 | qwazix | Lava_Croft, why? I liked it, and back in the day no other game had an evolving character. That only was enough |
| 10:25.36 | kerio | yay, i got it back working |
| 10:25.41 | qwazix | And persistent savegame... I was sick of level passwords |
| 10:25.45 | kerio | good old apt-get remove .*mafw.* |
| 10:26.06 | qwazix | I had started choplifter from the start at least 10 times cause of lost passwords |
| 10:26.19 | DocScrutinizer | qwazix: primary cell, not a crappy rechargable |
| 10:27.11 | qwazix | aha |
| 10:27.32 | qwazix | ~primary cell is a not recharcheable battery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_cell |
| 10:27.32 | infobot | okay, qwazix |
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| 10:32.52 | jacekowski | ~primary |
| 10:33.01 | jacekowski | ~primary cell |
| 10:33.01 | infobot | well, primary cell is a not recharcheable battery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_cell |
| 10:37.11 | kerio | what the FUCK |
| 10:37.16 | kerio | the fix doesn't survive a reboot |
| 10:37.18 | kerio | this is bullshit |
| 10:39.44 | vi__ | kerio: what media player are you using? |
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| 10:40.31 | kerio | the stock one |
| 10:40.52 | vi__ | install open media player. |
| 10:40.56 | vi__ | might work |
| 10:41.14 | vi__ | If not, rebuild tracker database. |
| 10:41.20 | vi__ | Maybe you have broken files? |
| 10:41.23 | vi__ | who knows. |
| 10:41.31 | vi__ | If that does not work... |
| 10:41.59 | vi__ | either do some real sleuthing, uninstalling, undoing everything you have already done |
| 10:42.10 | vi__ | or restore from your last backupmenu backup. |
| 10:42.31 | kerio | i don't have a backupmenu backup |
| 10:42.38 | vi__ | Please tell me you installed backupmenu and made a 'baseline' backup you could fall back to when you pooped on the fan. |
| 10:42.47 | kerio | vi__: my baseline backup is reflashing |
| 10:42.49 | vi__ | ...you do not have BM? |
| 10:42.52 | kerio | really, why bother with anything else |
| 10:42.59 | japh | vi__, no it just looked good in the menu! |
| 10:43.03 | vi__ | ... |
| 10:43.19 | kerio | vi__: i *literally* just bought this n900 |
| 10:43.23 | vi__ | kerio: Protip #1. Backup menu is king. |
| 10:43.36 | japh | checks it out |
| 10:43.50 | vi__ | kerio: as with all tech, you flash it. You fiddle with it till it gets fucked. |
| 10:43.59 | vi__ | You flash it again, fiddle with it till it gets fucked. |
| 10:44.09 | japh | exactly |
| 10:44.22 | vi__ | So you flash it again and fiddle with it till it gets fucked. |
| 10:44.26 | vi__ | Now here is the funny part. |
| 10:44.36 | japh | because that's the whole point of grabbing it |
| 10:44.42 | japh | at least for me, ymmv |
| 10:44.43 | vi__ | The length of time between each reflash gets longer and longer. |
| 10:45.03 | vi__ | Starting initially at hours, increasing to days, then months. |
| 10:45.14 | vi__ | For me, I have not re-flashed for ~4 months now. |
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| 10:45.38 | vi__ | everything is nice. |
| 10:45.52 | vi__ | If I fuck anything up, I just restore the backup with backup menu. |
| 10:46.05 | vi__ | And I am EXACTLY at where I was on the last backup. |
| 10:46.17 | kerio | vi__: the thing is, i don't really know if mediaplayer *used* to work |
| 10:46.24 | vi__ | I like backupmenu SO MUCH, I donated to robbiethe1st TWICE. |
| 10:46.52 | vi__ | kerio: Then it sounds to me like you need a reflash. |
| 10:47.00 | vi__ | 1. Re-flash. |
| 10:47.08 | vi__ | 2. Install fapman |
| 10:47.14 | vi__ | 3. enable repos |
| 10:47.15 | Lava_Croft | backupmenu worked great for me after restoring my backup |
| 10:47.19 | Lava_Croft | had to flash anyway:D |
| 10:47.20 | vi__ | 4. Install backupmenu |
| 10:47.23 | Lava_Croft | i bet i failed hard on that part |
| 10:47.26 | vi__ | 5. make a backup. |
| 10:47.49 | vi__ | 6. Fiddle away knowing you won't really have to reflash again. |
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| 10:53.01 | kerio | is there someone who actually knows how mediaplayer works? |
| 10:53.49 | japh | mplayer works |
| 10:54.09 | kerio | japh: yeah |
| 10:54.18 | kerio | on the other hand, this is the fucking stock media player |
| 10:54.22 | Lava_Croft | use OMP |
| 10:54.40 | kerio | it just makes no sense |
| 10:55.58 | kerio | also, where the hell is dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 10:57.59 | kerio | this is seriously frustrating |
| 10:58.06 | kerio | is mafw actually needed? |
| 11:04.36 | kerio | alright, removed mediaplayer |
| 11:04.39 | kerio | fuck that noise |
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| 11:06.30 | kerio | Lava_Croft: does OMP use mafw? |
| 11:08.53 | vi__ | lolwut |
| 11:09.00 | vi__ | mafw IS the mediaplayer. |
| 11:09.14 | vi__ | 'media player' is just a nice gui for it. |
| 11:09.25 | vi__ | 'open media player' is an even nicer gui for it. |
| 11:09.29 | kerio | vi__: great |
| 11:09.40 | vi__ | There is nothing wrong with mafw. |
| 11:09.45 | chem|st | kerio: you fsckd up your device by unsinstalling shit I guess, now get back on your seat! |
| 11:09.50 | kerio | chem|st: no u |
| 11:09.51 | kerio | :c |
| 11:09.53 | vi__ | you have fucked something up. |
| 11:09.58 | vi__ | re-flash time. |
| 11:10.00 | kerio | OMP works |
| 11:10.10 | kerio | let's hope it works after a reboot |
| 11:10.12 | vi__ | kerio: then what is the problem? |
| 11:10.16 | vi__ | chem|st: :p |
| 11:10.20 | chem|st | kerio: reflash install cssu and the hell keep your fingers from the uninstall button |
| 11:10.48 | kerio | chem|st: k :c |
| 11:10.50 | vi__ | By all means uninstall shit, just make sure you know what it is you are uninstalling! |
| 11:10.53 | kerio | or maybe i'll use OMP |
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| 11:11.19 | vi__ | chem|st: I have an oil leak. |
| 11:11.25 | chem|st | you are like a fucked up brat who was told to NOT to do something and is complaining about a broken toy after doing exactly the oposite of what was told before |
| 11:11.40 | chem|st | vi__: me too... |
| 11:12.01 | chem|st | about 1L/500km |
| 11:12.11 | vi__ | ouch, that is bad. |
| 11:12.16 | chem|st | head gasket |
| 11:12.28 | vi__ | mine is not THAT bad. |
| 11:12.31 | vi__ | which bike? |
| 11:12.42 | chem|st | paso |
| 11:13.08 | kerio | chem|st: can i uninstall cherry at least? |
| 11:13.13 | chem|st | or the valve-seal |
| 11:13.15 | vi__ | this is where the xt600 wins. You could have the head off in about 4o minutes with nothing more than a screwdriver and a spoon. |
| 11:13.20 | vi__ | kerio: yes |
| 11:13.24 | chem|st | kerio: yes |
| 11:13.31 | japh | kerio, has there ever been a 'stock' media player worth not forgetting about?? |
| 11:13.41 | chem|st | ehrm maybe not |
| 11:13.48 | kerio | japh: itunes? |
| 11:13.49 | kerio | flees |
| 11:13.57 | japh | fetches chainsaw |
| 11:14.39 | vi__ | I picked up a spare engine. |
| 11:14.49 | vi__ | THe whole thing. |
| 11:15.02 | vi__ | For ~70 euro. |
| 11:15.06 | chem|st | kerio: on saturday I had 3 iphones on the table not behaving like expected... pulled my n900 and did what was asked for! |
| 11:15.40 | chem|st | not even facebook "I like" was possible otg |
| 11:15.59 | vi__ | ~otg |
| 11:15.59 | infobot | i guess otg is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go |
| 11:16.12 | chem|st | what do I need a $600 phone for gsm-calling only? |
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| 11:16.38 | vi__ | so your friends know you have $600 for spare! |
| 11:17.42 | vi__ | If someone were to offer me a road legal kdx200 for trade for the n950... |
| 11:17.46 | vi__ | I'd take it. |
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| 11:29.09 | Helloer | Estel_: hi |
| 11:33.06 | kerio | chem|st: alright, i have PR1.3 flashed now |
| 11:33.23 | kerio | i removed the -installers and the introduction applet |
| 11:33.26 | kerio | i won't remove anything else |
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| 11:53.43 | vi__ | kerio: INSTALL BACKUP MENU RIGHT NOW. |
| 11:53.46 | vi__ | THEN USE IT. |
| 11:56.16 | kerio | vi__: i'll do that after i install CSSU stable |
| 11:56.32 | kerio | (and before anything else, yes) |
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| 12:00.01 | skope | any ideas why my desktop gets slow after few days of uptime? when i unlock my phone and try to click a shortcut, it freezes and holds for a while. then it works fine |
| 12:02.23 | skope | and i have n900. forgot to mention |
| 12:02.49 | freemangordon | swap fragmentation |
| 12:03.07 | freemangordon | ~ereswap |
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| 12:03.25 | freemangordon | ~swap |
| 12:03.25 | infobot | Allows one to easily change CD-ROM media with one command or click.. URL: http://www.flyn.org/ |
| 12:03.44 | freemangordon | clever one :D |
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| 12:04.32 | freemangordon | Pali: any chance for a new KP and KPS anytime soon? |
| 12:06.07 | kerio | vi__: how do i install backupmenu? D: |
| 12:06.23 | kerio | it doesn't appear in HAM, and i can't do anything before installing it! |
| 12:06.46 | Pali | freemangordon, I will push source package of packet injection driver to extras-devel |
| 12:07.01 | freemangordon | ok |
| 12:07.15 | Pali | under name wl1251-maemo |
| 12:07.27 | skope | freemangordon: what? |
| 12:07.39 | Pali | and deb package wl1251-maemo-source |
| 12:08.37 | freemangordon | Pali: didn't get that, iirc we agree those modules to a part of kernel build, why is wl1251-maemo needed? |
| 12:09.07 | freemangordon | aaah, source and .deb |
| 12:09.10 | Pali | we do not need to include source code of that modules (500MB) into kernel-power package |
| 12:09.11 | freemangordon | :) |
| 12:09.22 | freemangordon | Pali: it is not 500 MB |
| 12:09.30 | Pali | dsc package wl1251-maemo will build deb package wl1251-maemo-source |
| 12:09.32 | freemangordon | but yes, there is no need |
| 12:09.44 | Pali | 485M wl1251-maemo-0.2-source.tar.gz |
| 12:10.00 | freemangordon | Pali: use my package from extras-devel |
| 12:10.01 | Pali | original lxp tarball |
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| 12:10.13 | freemangordon | wl1251-maemo-0.2-source.tar.gz contains git tree |
| 12:10.14 | freemangordon | :D |
| 12:10.39 | kerio | wtf, there's no backupmenu in extras |
| 12:11.00 | skope | but weird. i have 50% ram usage and it already swaps |
| 12:11.00 | freemangordon | Pali: do apt-get source linux-modules-backport and use the source from there |
| 12:11.10 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW you don't need a new package |
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| 12:11.37 | freemangordon | you already have the source in the repos, proceed in the same was as with kernel-source.orig |
| 12:13.00 | freemangordon | add a line downloading it in debian/rules get-orig-source rule. or near it |
| 12:13.03 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ |
| 12:14.04 | freemangordon | skope: check your swappiness |
| 12:15.29 | skope | freemangordon: cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness says 30 |
| 12:15.55 | freemangordon | well, NFC then, but you could try to set it to 0 |
| 12:16.10 | freemangordon | nto sure what the effect will be |
| 12:16.12 | freemangordon | *not |
| 12:16.22 | skope | i bet not so good |
| 12:16.55 | freemangordon | skope: what is the problem with having swap? |
| 12:17.03 | steve__ | skope: it's quite normal for things to get swapped out when they're not getting used. |
| 12:17.15 | zeq | not only under memory pressure |
| 12:17.21 | skope | freemangordon: nothing, but usually system don't swap until ram is used |
| 12:17.35 | skope | zeq: really? |
| 12:18.00 | zeq | really. better to have more cache than memory used up with idle processes |
| 12:18.22 | skope | but it is weird why n900 doesn't respond after unlock. upper left corner menu button works tho |
| 12:18.27 | skope | but desktop doesn't |
| 12:18.52 | vi__ | skope: but that cache is disk cache. |
| 12:19.00 | vi__ | n900 uses flash memory |
| 12:19.09 | vi__ | which is mega fast reads. |
| 12:19.21 | zeq | vi__: it's not that quick |
| 12:19.46 | zeq | wish it was :) |
| 12:19.53 | vi__ | kerio: enable development repo, that is where all the cool shit is. |
| 12:21.37 | skope | so anyone has no idea what is causing freezings? been googling for weeks and nothing useful came up |
| 12:22.04 | vi__ | skope: freemangordon told you. |
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| 12:22.16 | vi__ | You need to defrag your swap space. |
| 12:22.21 | vi__ | either: |
| 12:22.27 | vi__ | 1. Reboot the n900. |
| 12:22.33 | vi__ | 2. Swapoff/swapon |
| 12:22.43 | vi__ | 3. install ereswap package. |
| 12:22.57 | skope | vi__: thank you for clearing that up. i missed that entirely |
| 12:23.03 | vi__ | skope: np |
| 12:23.09 | skope | and thanks to freemangordon |
| 12:23.17 | vi__ | praise his might. |
| 12:23.23 | skope | i will |
| 12:23.38 | vi__ | oh lord cthulufreemangordon, look mercifully upon us. |
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| 12:39.27 | kerio | can i put a password for user? |
| 12:39.50 | kerio | and what's the official way to get root? |
| 12:39.51 | skope | passwd user |
| 12:41.24 | qwazix | kerio, rootsh |
| 12:41.36 | qwazix | and if you want to be able to use sudo, sudser |
| 12:41.47 | qwazix | (never edit /etc/sudoers) |
| 12:42.48 | kerio | will it correctly ask for user's password? |
| 12:43.10 | skope | when sshing into the device, yes |
| 12:43.11 | qwazix | no, unless you run sudser command |
| 12:43.18 | kerio | ok |
| 12:43.25 | qwazix | read the package description |
| 12:43.49 | qwazix | there is a way to force it to always ask for pwd |
| 12:44.24 | qwazix | (don't know if you need rootsh anyway or if sudser works by itself, I always install both) |
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| 12:57.56 | freemangordon | zeq: GTK fennec build is broken too, not only Qt, I can only hope it will be fixed |
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| 13:00.55 | freemangordon | zeq: something is screwed up in the painting/scrolling code, both Qt and GTK build behave in the same strange way when scrolling. |
| 13:01.49 | kerio | qwazix: for fuck's sake, sudser broke my sudoers |
| 13:02.02 | qwazix | kerio, !! |
| 13:02.23 | qwazix | I've been using sudser since ages, |
| 13:03.01 | qwazix | though I never did try to force it to ask for password |
| 13:03.18 | kerio | "grep: /etc/shells: No such file or directory" "Password changed." ">>>sudoers file: syntax error, line 28 <<<" "/etc/sudoers.d/everybody.sudoers changes break sudoers" |
| 13:03.33 | qwazix | I supposed it should work as it is in extras proper |
| 13:03.44 | zeq | freemangordon: I've noticed it too. I'm going to try to track down what broke it when I have some time. |
| 13:04.04 | qwazix | Sorry for the fuckup, want me to post my sudoers file? |
| 13:04.35 | zeq | It took me a couple of full builds to figure out why rotation broke again for me (missing SLOT orientationChanged) |
| 13:04.56 | kerio | qwazix: well, it doesn't work |
| 13:05.06 | kerio | unless this crap is intended behavior |
| 13:05.26 | freemangordon | zeq: isn't it better to prepare what we have so far and to try to push it upstream first? |
| 13:05.34 | qwazix | kerio, doubt it... wait i'll post my sudoers file |
| 13:05.37 | zeq | yes, may as well |
| 13:05.43 | zeq | need to clean up the commits |
| 13:06.02 | freemangordon | once we have an upstreamed code, I think it will be a little bit easier to demand things :D |
| 13:06.12 | zeq | :D |
| 13:06.24 | zeq | like working EGL hw accel ;) |
| 13:06.26 | kerio | qwazix: my /etc/sudoers.d/everybody.sudoers had "user ALL=(ALL) PASSWD:" in one line |
| 13:06.34 | kerio | i changed that to "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" |
| 13:06.39 | kerio | and ran update-sudoers |
| 13:06.40 | kerio | now it works |
| 13:06.41 | freemangordon | zeq: if you wish I can do it too, but TBH I still think it is beter you to do it. Me and my diplomacy :D:D:D |
| 13:06.43 | kerio | as intended, i mean |
| 13:07.12 | zeq | freemangordon: I'll try to get it done today, can't promise though. |
| 13:07.14 | qwazix | mine has user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 13:07.32 | kerio | yeah well, i want it passworded :) |
| 13:07.41 | freemangordon | zeq: on the other hand if you lack time I will do the patch and will send it to you, ok? |
| 13:07.43 | qwazix | with sudser installed as-is (no extra configuration or running sudser) |
| 13:07.54 | HRH_H_Crab | anyone here using mgutenberg? |
| 13:07.55 | zeq | freemangordon: sure :) |
| 13:08.15 | kerio | hm, closing and reopening the terminal doesn't reset the password asking |
| 13:08.16 | kerio | oh well |
| 13:08.27 | freemangordon | I think a monolite patch should be ok, or it is better to split it? |
| 13:08.36 | freemangordon | zeq:^^^ |
| 13:08.47 | qwazix | you could file a bug to sudser bugtracker (that is if the maintainer is not MIA) |
| 13:08.54 | freemangordon | s/it is/is it/ |
| 13:09.06 | zeq | freemangordon: I think probably, yes. keep functional changes separate |
| 13:09.24 | freemangordon | you mean volume control? |
| 13:09.27 | zeq | yeah |
| 13:09.29 | kerio | ok, next item in the list: functional-ish unix |
| 13:09.33 | kerio | wat do? |
| 13:09.43 | zeq | it's not realated to fixing the rotation in any way |
| 13:09.43 | kerio | install coreutils and teach myself to put "g" before every command name? |
| 13:10.02 | freemangordon | ok. though I think we should not try to upstream that |
| 13:10.13 | zeq | the rotation fix? |
| 13:10.21 | zeq | or the zoom? |
| 13:10.46 | freemangordon | the zoom |
| 13:10.57 | zeq | probably should add an option like in microb |
| 13:11.13 | freemangordon | we can keep in in /debian/patches |
| 13:11.23 | zeq | freemangordon: I did try to tack down text reflow |
| 13:11.30 | zeq | s/tack/track/ |
| 13:11.30 | freemangordon | me too |
| 13:11.49 | freemangordon | it is a no go AIUI |
| 13:11.49 | zeq | I did find something, but didn't experiment with it |
| 13:11.57 | freemangordon | really? |
| 13:12.12 | zeq | I'll try to find it again and point it out |
| 13:12.38 | freemangordon | as what i saw is a fixed font size used in net_sure_the_name.js |
| 13:12.47 | freemangordon | *not_sure |
| 13:13.20 | zeq | I'll have a look again when I have a bit more time... |
| 13:13.23 | freemangordon | ok |
| 13:13.49 | freemangordon | so, I will try to prepare a patch for all changes but zoom functionality |
| 13:13.54 | zeq | okay |
| 13:15.22 | zeq | freemangordon: once done, do you think bugzilla bug, plus pointing it out to romaxa et al at #mobile would be the right way? |
| 13:15.47 | freemangordon | romaxa said to open a bug and to attach the patch |
| 13:15.56 | vi__ | sudoers is broken. |
| 13:15.56 | zeq | yeah. that's what I thought |
| 13:16.00 | vi__ | DO NOT EDIT IT. |
| 13:16.15 | vi__ | cat /proc/swaps |
| 13:16.22 | vi__ | oops, wrong xterm |
| 13:16.44 | freemangordon | zeq: BTW git diff commitid1..commitid2 should do the job very easily |
| 13:17.21 | zeq | freemangordon: wonders of git :) |
| 13:17.49 | zeq | freemangordon: anyway I've g2g, will you email it to me? |
| 13:18.31 | freemangordon | may I have your mail again, i've lost it |
| 13:18.41 | freemangordon | zeq: ^^^ |
| 13:19.13 | zeq | steve<at>snewbury<dot>org<dot>uk |
| 13:19.28 | freemangordon | 10x |
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| 13:31.50 | qwazix | zeq, freemangordon, I think that reflow is intentionally like that. In most browsers except opera, double-tapping triggers reflowing while arbitrary zoom doesn't |
| 13:32.25 | qwazix | I don't know if that is UI design decision or performance limitation (constant reflowing is heavy) |
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| 13:40.05 | freemangordon | qwazix: yeah, but it worths try to fix it. Anyway it is not a top priority |
| 13:40.41 | qwazix | freemangordon, agreed |
| 13:41.00 | vi__ | freemangordon: did you get your email yet? |
| 13:41.10 | freemangordon | vi__: no |
| 13:41.15 | vi__ | freemangordon: lame |
| 13:41.22 | freemangordon | do you? |
| 13:41.28 | vi__ | no |
| 13:42.07 | freemangordon | hmm, maybe you should check with travel agencies for a ticket to papua (whatever the place was) :D |
| 13:42.16 | vi__ | papua new guinea |
| 13:42.18 | vi__ | no |
| 13:42.22 | vi__ | they have cannibals. |
| 13:42.31 | freemangordon | aah, yes , papua new guinea |
| 13:42.49 | freemangordon | vi__, no , it is just a rumor |
| 13:43.00 | Pali | freemangordon, seems that kernel-power-settings problem with 'can't shift that many' is already fixed in last version |
| 13:43.21 | Pali | I cannot reproduce that problem with old schemes and last kernel-power-settings |
| 13:43.24 | kwtm | What is in /home/user/MyDocs/cities/ on my N900? Is this a built-in map for the GPS that came with the N900, or something? |
| 13:43.43 | Pali | kwtm, downloaded maps for Nokia Maps |
| 13:43.52 | vi__ | kwtm: it is where nokia maps tiles get stored. |
| 13:44.00 | Pali | cache for Nokia maps |
| 13:44.02 | kwtm | Pali: Oh, so if I've never used Nokia maps then it would be empty ... ok |
| 13:44.25 | Pali | kwtm, Some eMMC images has integrated some Nokia Maps |
| 13:44.47 | freemangordon | vi__: wasn't that the place a famous english captain fas killed/eaten? |
| 13:44.50 | Pali | of cource that can be installed by some windows app (nokia map loader??) |
| 13:45.23 | Pali | kwtm, if you do not use nokia maps, you can delete it |
| 13:45.46 | kwtm | Pali: Just trying to see what to skip for my rsync backup script |
| 13:46.20 | Pali | maps are downloadable from internet/nokia, so skip it in rsync |
| 13:46.41 | kwtm | I find I can't use a date as a cut-off because when a N900 is reflashed, the built-in files on a pristine N900 have a very recent file date/time. |
| 13:46.47 | freemangordon | Pali: if you have a custom kernel config according to the old scheme might trigger something |
| 13:47.30 | Pali | freemangordon, I used old scheme with last kernel-config and it show only: warning: 700000 not supported |
| 13:47.42 | Pali | and warning: 750000 not supported |
| 13:47.50 | Pali | but no shift error |
| 13:47.54 | freemangordon | err, and what is the reported bug? |
| 13:48.10 | Pali | show error: can't shift that many |
| 13:48.15 | freemangordon | aah, do you have 0 athe the begining of the supported frequencies? |
| 13:48.23 | Pali | in script yes |
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| 13:48.37 | Pali | it is your patch |
| 13:48.49 | freemangordon | I mean in /etc/default/kernel-power |
| 13:49.04 | Pali | /etc/default/kernel-power -> /home/user/.kernel/default |
| 13:49.16 | freemangordon | wherever it is |
| 13:49.27 | Pali | and yes first is: FREQS="0:25,90 ..." |
| 13:49.35 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 13:50.39 | freemangordon | I need to recall what my change was, as it was intended to fix exactly "can't shift that many" error |
| 13:50.59 | freemangordon | Pali: are you sure those who reported have latest KPS? |
| 13:51.37 | Pali | maybe no |
| 13:51.38 | Pali | problem was in older kernel-power-settings |
| 13:51.43 | freemangordon | aah, yes |
| 13:51.48 | freemangordon | there was a problem |
| 13:52.00 | freemangordon | And I think i have fixed it |
| 13:52.19 | freemangordon | or not? |
| 13:52.34 | Pali | I cannot reproduce bug |
| 13:52.43 | Pali | so it should be fixed |
| 13:52.55 | freemangordon | Pali: could you somehow workaround warning: 700000 not supported and warning: 750000 not supported |
| 13:53.15 | freemangordon | i.e. assume 720 for both frequencies |
| 13:54.06 | freemangordon | ore replace with 720 and overwrite the profile with some"converted to new scheme" warning |
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| 13:57.37 | freemangordon | Pali: or even better, show a maemo notification banner "Your profile has been converted, check your frequency/voltage table" |
| 13:58.21 | Pali | freemangordon, I will add code which convert 700000 and 750000 to 720000 |
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| 13:59.28 | freemangordon | great. Just keep in mind that if you have both, you should remove 700 and replace 750 with 720. because it is better to use the voltage for 750 |
| 14:02.10 | Pali | freemangordon, ok 700 will be ignored and 750 will be changed to 720 |
| 14:02.48 | freemangordon | great. it is up to you what voltage to use if upper limit is 700 :P |
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| 14:39.44 | Raimu | Haw. |
| 14:39.48 | Raimu | ~oc |
| 14:39.48 | infobot | rumour has it, oc is an Optical Carrier, An OC1 has 672 channels or 44.736 Mbit/s |
| 14:42.11 | vi__ | kerio: Don't be a pussy. Overclock ur fone. |
| 14:42.21 | kerio | vi__: no u |
| 14:44.28 | Macer | heh |
| 14:44.51 | Macer | overclock it to 3GHz |
| 14:45.07 | Macer | keeps it reals |
| 14:47.56 | kerio | heh, that would surely shut the dickheads with a galaxys3 up |
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| 14:48.18 | vi__ | You are right, explosions always shut people up. |
| 14:48.50 | kerio | there's not enough energy to cause an explosion like that! :( |
| 14:48.50 | vi__ | just pipe IRC to espeak, that will shut them up. |
| 14:51.23 | kerio | the fuck, cleven sometimes just doesn't work |
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| 15:13.56 | gremlin[it] | hi all |
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| 15:15.39 | gremlin[it] | I'm lookign around to resolve an issue, i would delete messages (sms and im) older than a certain number of days, but i wasn't able to find nothing to do this ... can anyone help me ? |
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| 15:27.44 | kerio | is supl.google.com the server to use, for agps? |
| 15:30.08 | kerio | wtf, why does os x show me two volumes when i mount the n900 in ass rage mode? |
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| 15:30.39 | RiD | what are the size of them? |
| 15:32.01 | kerio | "Nokia N900" is 29GB, "Untitled" is 16GB |
| 15:32.31 | kerio | Untitled is mostly empty |
| 15:32.34 | kerio | and houses DCIM |
| 15:32.59 | jacekowski | well, N900 is My Docs |
| 15:33.04 | jacekowski | Untitled is memory card |
| 15:33.14 | kerio | ...i don't have a µsd |
| 15:33.19 | kerio | wait |
| 15:33.24 | Raimu | The ass rage mode. |
| 15:33.32 | kerio | what the fuck, i DO have a µsd |
| 15:33.48 | jacekowski | kerio: is that your phone? |
| 15:33.51 | Raimu | :D |
| 15:33.54 | Raimu | The plot thickens. |
| 15:33.55 | kerio | meh, class 2 sandisk |
| 15:34.02 | kerio | i ain't even mad |
| 15:34.02 | jacekowski | ugh |
| 15:34.08 | kerio | jacekowski: just bought it used |
| 15:34.14 | kerio | the µsd is apparently empty |
| 15:34.21 | jacekowski | try recovery software on it |
| 15:34.26 | kerio | where "used" apparently means "barely touched" |
| 15:34.29 | kerio | jacekowski: nah, that would be a dick move |
| 15:34.37 | kerio | the seller was really helpful |
| 15:34.47 | jacekowski | i've got class 10 SD for my camera |
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| 15:35.51 | kerio | i suppose i can use it to store backups and stuff like that |
| 15:35.51 | kerio | cool |
| 15:36.11 | jacekowski | backups in same place are not the best thing |
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| 15:41.53 | kwtm | where I can get the "less" command? what package do I install? I already have coreutils-gnu installed. |
| 15:42.29 | jacekowski | less |
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| 15:52.23 | merlin1991 | or the all hated busybox-power :D |
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| 16:14.33 | Raimu | Class 2 Sandisk isn't bad. At least legitimate Sandisk µSDs tend to outperform. |
| 16:15.12 | Raimu | And the stock µSDs that came with Nokia phones were often much better than random internet-bought ones of any class rating. |
| 16:16.19 | Raimu | Higher class numbers are nice for long sustained writes and not much else |
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| 16:24.42 | kerio | did someone port osu! to maemo? |
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| 16:27.31 | kerio | oh, found a bug in cleven, how do i report it? |
| 16:30.49 | freemangordon | zeq: I sent the patch on your mail |
| 16:30.49 | kerio | apparently it expects to be able to sudo $foo without it asking for a password |
| 16:31.04 | M4rtinK2 | kerio: there is a Cleven thread on talk.maemo.org |
| 16:31.18 | freemangordon | kerio: plus this is not a bug in cleven |
| 16:31.23 | kerio | M4rtinK2: yeah but it would require me to go on TMO |
| 16:31.26 | kerio | freemangordon: oh really |
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| 16:31.37 | kerio | freemangordon: at least it could *tell* me |
| 16:31.50 | kerio | or, better, ask for the password |
| 16:31.59 | kerio | or, slightly worse, add its own commands to a file in /etc/sudoers.d/ |
| 16:32.09 | kerio | like most other applications like that do |
| 16:32.09 | freemangordon | yes, really, maemo5 was never intened to have password for sudo AFAIK |
| 16:32.27 | kerio | [citation needed] |
| 16:32.38 | freemangordon | don't have time now :) |
| 16:32.42 | kerio | and actually |
| 16:32.50 | kerio | you don't even *have* sudo access out of the box |
| 16:32.58 | kerio | you have to install a package and/or enable rd mode |
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| 16:43.32 | kerio | vi__: btw, HOLY SHIT BACKUPMENU IS AWESOME |
| 16:43.36 | kerio | why didn't you tell me before? |
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| 16:55.17 | kerio | will stuff break if i chsh for user? |
| 16:57.20 | kerio | also, is there a way to make HAM not check for updates by itself? |
| 16:57.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | see wiki/customization |
| 16:58.19 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: no Customisation or Customization |
| 16:58.24 | kerio | on wiki.maemo.org |
| 16:58.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh |
| 16:58.45 | kerio | oh, Customizing Maemo |
| 16:58.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | customizing your maemo |
| 16:59.55 | Pavel | Sigh... |
| 17:01.33 | Pavel | I gave in and bought an Android phone after using an N900 for 2 1/2 years. It feels sad, and I already miss the nice integration of contacts and IM in the N900, but my N900's hardware was failing in many ways, and not having a compass was annoying. |
| 17:02.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: freemangordon: cleven SHALL add all 'sudo $foo' it needs to etc/sudoers.d! |
| 17:02.30 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: indeed |
| 17:02.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: for proper password on sudo gainroot see |
| 17:02.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~jrtools |
| 17:02.53 | infobot | rumour has it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 17:02.54 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: nah, i solved that one |
| 17:04.35 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: I was using cleven and it has nevers asked for a password, so I assume it has all the needed stuff in /etc/sudoers.d |
| 17:05.32 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: my gainroot checks for RD mode apparently |
| 17:05.37 | kerio | i don't know if that's new in pr 1.3 |
| 17:05.38 | freemangordon | kerio: did you mess up with your /etc/sudoers.d ? |
| 17:05.58 | freemangordon | kerio: you need rootsh |
| 17:06.02 | freemangordon | AFAIK |
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| 17:06.16 | kerio | freemangordon: it doesn't have ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 17:06.26 | kerio | because that's dumb, yo |
| 17:07.27 | freemangordon | sure. anyway, today is my brthday, so I'd rather spend the evening in a bar, not in front of my PC |
| 17:07.34 | freemangordon | night |
| 17:07.42 | kerio | :( |
| 17:07.45 | kerio | happy birthday! |
| 17:07.47 | kerio | we love you! |
| 17:07.55 | kerio | add the correct commands to a file in /etc/sudoers.d! |
| 17:09.01 | Pavel | Also, I am yet to find an Android podcast client as good as gPodder. |
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| 17:12.51 | kerio | asjkasjgkajsskgas why does apt not accept "y" as "yes" |
| 17:12.55 | kerio | fucking localizations |
| 17:13.13 | kerio | the prompt is not translated, but the accepted options are |
| 17:22.43 | kerio | ~jrtools |
| 17:22.43 | infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 17:45.30 | Venemo | ~ping |
| 17:45.30 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 18:10.57 | vi_ | freemangordon: how to enable backingswap? and how do I know if it is enabled? |
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| 18:15.23 | vi_ | also, how come there is no lzo module? |
| 18:15.37 | vi_ | I thought it was needed for the compression? |
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| 18:42.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~seen kerio |
| 18:42.18 | infobot | kerio <~kerio@unaffiliated/kerio> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1h 19m 35s ago, saying: '~jrtools'. |
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| 18:47.06 | Lava_Croft | oh yeah, speaking of that |
| 18:47.08 | Lava_Croft | ~jrtools |
| 18:47.08 | infobot | it has been said that jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 18:47.12 | Lava_Croft | thank you |
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| 18:58.44 | vi_ | sooo |
| 18:58.54 | vi_ | how to set backing swap? |
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| 20:04.42 | kerio | ~jrtools |
| 20:04.43 | infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 20:05.29 | kerio | hrmpf, i can't remove "CSSU Features" from the powerbutton menu |
| 20:08.51 | merlin1991 | kerio that's the cssu features package |
| 20:10.17 | kerio | yeah but it has a "remove from powerkey menu" button |
| 20:10.19 | kerio | that doesn't wor |
| 20:10.20 | kerio | k |
| 20:10.24 | kerio | i think it's because of sudo silliness |
| 20:10.25 | kerio | BUG! |
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| 20:18.49 | kerio | will stuff break if i make "vi" a symlink to vim? |
| 20:18.58 | kerio | i mean, is vi ever used programmatically? |
| 20:19.14 | merlin1991 | afaik no |
| 20:19.25 | merlin1991 | does it even have an interface for that? |
| 20:19.36 | kerio | merlin1991: sure it does, stdin :P |
| 20:19.40 | merlin1991 | ususally you'd use sed from scripts |
| 20:19.56 | merlin1991 | no I mean does it have a commandset you can use on stdin? |
| 20:20.30 | jacekowski | no |
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| 20:55.31 | zsolt | hi there |
| 20:55.47 | zsolt | how is it possible to use dosbox on wine? |
| 20:56.18 | zsolt | my nokia n900 cant recognize the keyboard |
| 20:56.36 | zsolt | got no man pages about that |
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| 21:06.22 | timeless | anyone here touch nokia/maemo/meego/qt location apis? |
| 21:08.41 | timeless | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/location-overview.html |
| 21:08.41 | timeless | could someone please tell me what "inedi.ntcn" is in that file? :) |
| 21:12.16 | kerio | zsolt: wait, what |
| 21:12.21 | kerio | why do you want to run dosbox on wine |
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| 21:30.40 | RiD | infobot, what is Nokia? |
| 21:30.40 | infobot | i heard nokia is a cellphone company from Finland. |
| 21:30.47 | RiD | infobot yes |
| 21:30.47 | infobot | i heard yes is the opposite of no |
| 21:30.56 | RiD | infobot i know |
| 21:30.56 | infobot | You know? |
| 21:30.56 | kerio | infobot: nokia is a pile of steaming crap |
| 21:30.56 | infobot | ...but nokia is already something else... |
| 21:31.01 | kerio | infobot: no |
| 21:31.15 | RiD | infobot, kerio is a robot |
| 21:31.15 | infobot | RiD: okay |
| 21:31.20 | kerio | D: |
| 21:31.23 | kerio | i'm not a robot! |
| 21:31.24 | RiD | i love this |
| 21:31.26 | kerio | infobot: kerio is not a robot |
| 21:31.26 | infobot | ...but kerio is already something else... |
| 21:31.44 | kerio | hrmpf, how do i overwrite a factoid |
| 21:32.13 | RiD | you're doomed |
| 21:32.20 | RiD | infobot no, kerio is not a robot |
| 21:32.20 | infobot | okay, RiD |
| 21:32.28 | kerio | phew |
| 21:32.30 | RiD | infobot, what is kerio? |
| 21:32.30 | infobot | it has been said that kerio is not a robot |
| 21:32.38 | RiD | infobot, forget |
| 21:32.42 | kerio | well, at least that's true |
| 21:32.46 | kerio | infobot: forget about kerio |
| 21:32.46 | infobot | kerio: i didn't have anything called 'about kerio' to forget |
| 21:32.50 | kerio | infobot: forget kerio |
| 21:32.50 | infobot | i forgot kerio, kerio |
| 21:32.53 | RiD | nice |
| 21:32.59 | RiD | we just spammed this channel :D |
| 21:33.04 | kerio | meh, nobody was talking anyway |
| 21:33.29 | RiD | at least we keep this busy with RELEVANT subjects |
| 21:33.38 | RiD | infobot, what is a pineapple |
| 21:33.38 | infobot | ACTION dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing o/' O pineapple, O pineapple, thy skin is very pokey o/` |
| 21:33.54 | RiD | i'm shocked |
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| 21:51.41 | qwazix_N950 | timeless, that's probably just a typo |
| 21:52.05 | qwazix_N950 | Probably they just meant "in" |
| 22:03.16 | qwazix_N950 | Anybody around? Bored to hell... |
| 22:04.30 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, are you alive? |
| 22:04.30 | infobot | The dead cannot live |
| 22:05.28 | qwazix_N950 | is happy that there is at least some sign of life, even mechanical |
| 22:06.28 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, what is the answer to life, universe and everything? |
| 22:06.29 | infobot | qwazix_N950: what are you talking about? |
| 22:07.07 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, tell me a random fact |
| 22:07.47 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, random |
| 22:10.25 | Venemo | lol |
| 22:14.19 | *** join/#maemo dos1 (~dos@unaffiliated/dos1) |
| 22:17.43 | qwazix_N950 | Oh, somebody is actually alive. Howdy venemo |
| 22:17.47 | RiD | infobot, who is qwazix_N950 |
| 22:17.47 | infobot | RiD: what are you talking about? |
| 22:17.54 | RiD | infobot, what is qwazix_N950 |
| 22:17.54 | infobot | RiD: I think you lost me on that one |
| 22:18.06 | RiD | infobot, qwazix_N950 is a robot |
| 22:18.06 | infobot | RiD: okay |
| 22:18.12 | RiD | infobot, who is qwazix_N950 |
| 22:18.12 | infobot | qwazix_n950 is probably a robot |
| 22:18.23 | RiD | yes! :D |
| 22:18.26 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, what am I? |
| 22:18.27 | infobot | *squeak!* get a way from me, you freak! |
| 22:18.42 | RiD | infobot, what is qwazix_N950 |
| 22:18.42 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, qwazix_n950 is a robot |
| 22:18.46 | qwazix_N950 | Hahahaha |
| 22:18.49 | RiD | infobot yes |
| 22:18.49 | infobot | it has been said that yes is the opposite of no |
| 22:18.53 | RiD | oh lol |
| 22:19.01 | RiD | infobot is my little partner when this channel is alone |
| 22:19.11 | RiD | infobot, who is RiD? |
| 22:19.12 | infobot | I think you lost me on that one, RiD |
| 22:19.20 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, what is infobot? |
| 22:19.21 | infobot | qwazix_N950: what are you talking about? |
| 22:19.30 | RiD | infobot, infobot is an idiot |
| 22:19.30 | infobot | okay, RiD |
| 22:19.34 | RiD | infobot, who are you |
| 22:19.35 | infobot | RiD: what are you talking about? |
| 22:19.40 | RiD | infobot, what is infobot |
| 22:19.40 | infobot | i guess infobot is an idiot |
| 22:19.59 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, what is low self esteem? |
| 22:20.00 | infobot | qwazix_N950: I think you lost me on that one |
| 22:20.19 | RiD | infobot no, infobot is me |
| 22:20.19 | infobot | okay, RiD |
| 22:20.23 | RiD | infobot, what is infobot |
| 22:20.23 | infobot | it has been said that infobot is me |
| 22:21.08 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, seen RiD? |
| 22:21.15 | infobot | rid is currently on #maemo (2h 38m 3s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 52s, last said: 'infobot, what is infobot'. |
| 22:21.36 | RiD | infobot, what is wood |
| 22:21.36 | infobot | how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? |
| 22:21.52 | RiD | infobot, what is the answer to the universe |
| 22:21.52 | infobot | RiD: what are you talking about? |
| 22:21.55 | RiD | infobot, what is the answer to the universe and all that? |
| 22:21.56 | infobot | RiD: what are you talking about? |
| 22:22.14 | RiD | infobot, what is the answer to life the universe and everything |
| 22:22.14 | infobot | I think you lost me on that one, RiD |
| 22:22.20 | RiD | infobot, is 42 |
| 22:22.35 | RiD | infobot, the answer to life the universe and everything is 42 |
| 22:22.35 | infobot | RiD: that's too long |
| 22:22.36 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot google the answer to the universe life and everything |
| 22:22.58 | RiD | infobot, the answer to life the universe and everything is 4 |
| 22:22.58 | infobot | RiD: that's too long |
| 22:22.59 | RiD | infobot, the answer to life the universe and everything is 42 |
| 22:22.59 | infobot | that's too long, RiD |
| 22:23.00 | RiD | :( |
| 22:23.09 | RiD | he's too dumb to store bigger messages |
| 22:23.51 | qwazix_N950 | In fact he's too dumb to store big variable names |
| 22:24.13 | qwazix_N950 | It doesn't seem to have problem with longer values |
| 22:24.21 | RiD | he's an idiot |
| 22:24.27 | RiD | goes to a corner and starts crying |
| 22:24.38 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, 42 is the answer to life, universe and everything |
| 22:24.38 | infobot | ...but 42 is already something else... |
| 22:24.57 | qwazix_N950 | infobot, what is 42? |
| 22:24.57 | infobot | i guess 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything |
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| 22:26.07 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, have a snack |
| 22:26.43 | RiD | oh. |
| 22:26.49 | RiD | idiot :( |
| 22:27.12 | RiD | infobot, what is InvalidHandle |
| 22:27.12 | infobot | RiD: what are you talking about? |
| 22:27.26 | RiD | lol. infobot, what is infobot |
| 22:27.34 | RiD | infobot, what is infobot |
| 22:27.34 | infobot | from memory, infobot is me |
| 22:28.06 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, tell infobot what is infobot |
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| 22:28.28 | DocScrutinizer | ~query |
| 22:28.28 | infobot | talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :) |
| 22:28.37 | RiD | hello DocScrutinizer |
| 22:29.22 | qwazix_N950 | DocScrutinizer, we have a serious discussion here don't interrupt |
| 22:31.27 | *** part/#maemo infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) |
| 22:32.34 | *** join/#maemo infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) |
| 22:32.35 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 22:32.36 | *** mode/#maemo [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 22:32.45 | Venemo | qwazix_N950: I'm fine, thanks :) |
| 22:34.24 | DocScrutinizer | btw, redefining factoids is considered rude. Esp when those factoids are obviously not yours and even more when the factoid is ~infobot |
| 22:34.46 | Venemo | anyway, good night guys |
| 22:34.55 | DocScrutinizer | ~attack RiD |
| 22:34.55 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing RiD |
| 22:34.57 | qwazix_N950 | Gnight |
| 22:35.01 | RiD | cries |
| 22:35.09 | DocScrutinizer | ~rape qwazix_N950 |
| 22:35.09 | infobot | ACTION takes qwazix_N950 behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 22:35.41 | RiD | accepts DocScrutinizer superiority |
| 22:36.44 | qwazix_N950 | The infobot factoid was not defined, and RiD defined is as me, I don't see something wrong with that |
| 22:37.11 | qwazix_N950 | s/is/it |
| 22:37.26 | RiD | runs |
| 22:38.36 | DocScrutinizer | qwazix_N950: well, if that's the fact then yes, it's ok |
| 22:39.14 | DocScrutinizer | just due to the fact *somebody* elsel_ abused the ~infobot factoid some days ago |
| 22:40.21 | DocScrutinizer | which earned him a bot ignore |
| 22:40.50 | qwazix_N950 | Understood |
| 22:40.54 | DocScrutinizer | (well, he did a few more nasty bot abuses) |
| 22:41.17 | DocScrutinizer | your definition in fact is welcome |
| 22:41.30 | DocScrutinizer | ~locl infobot |
| 22:41.34 | DocScrutinizer | ~lock infobot |
| 22:41.35 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: locking factoid infobot |
| 22:42.40 | FIQ|n900 | ~infobot |
| 22:42.40 | infobot | well, infobot is me |
| 22:42.45 | FIQ|n900 | ok |
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| 22:44.38 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot is also http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot || apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:44.53 | DocScrutinizer | :-S |
| 22:45.01 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:45.01 | infobot | i heard infobot is me |
| 22:45.09 | DocScrutinizer | ~unlock infobot |
| 22:45.09 | infobot | unlocking factoid infobot, DocScrutinizer |
| 22:45.12 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot is also http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot || apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:45.16 | FIQ|n900 | maybe it was too long |
| 22:45.21 | FIQ|n900 | nvm |
| 22:45.51 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot is also http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ |
| 22:46.02 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot is http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ |
| 22:46.15 | DocScrutinizer | o.O .oO(???) |
| 22:46.22 | FIQ|n900 | ~infobot is at http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ |
| 22:46.23 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:46.23 | infobot | infobot is probably me |
| 22:46.38 | FIQ|n900 | infobot is at http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ |
| 22:46.42 | RiD | maybe it's because you're using || ? |
| 22:46.50 | DocScrutinizer | yay |
| 22:46.52 | qwazix_N950 | What happened? |
| 22:47.03 | FIQ|n900 | try forget first |
| 22:47.09 | FIQ|n900 | what do I know |
| 22:47.16 | DocScrutinizer | || no good idea, but seems it's not caused by that |
| 22:47.29 | FIQ|n900 | ~forget infobot |
| 22:47.29 | infobot | FIQ|n900: i forgot infobot |
| 22:47.31 | DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo infobot |
| 22:47.31 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: there's no such factoid as infobot |
| 22:47.39 | DocScrutinizer | dafaq |
| 22:47.43 | FIQ|n900 | ~infobot is at http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ |
| 22:47.45 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:48.00 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 22:48.09 | DocScrutinizer | ~unforget infobot |
| 22:48.10 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: Successfully recovered 'infobot'. Have fun now. |
| 22:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:48.15 | infobot | docscrutinizer, i love abuse, feed me!, or whack, yo |
| 22:48.38 | DocScrutinizer | weird shit |
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| 22:48.45 | DocScrutinizer | ~status |
| 22:48.45 | infobot | Since Mon Jul 2 21:26:02 2012, there have been 15 modifications, 206 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 79 commands. I have been awake for 1d 1h 22m 43s this session, and currently reference 118627 factoids. I'm using about 23716 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 300.42/9.9 child 0/0 |
| 22:48.59 | DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo infobot |
| 22:48.59 | infobot | infobot -- last modified at Mon Sep 13 00:12:22 2010 by cb11; it has been requested 34 times, last by DocScrutinizer, 44s ago. |
| 22:49.13 | infobot | hauls FIQ up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles, courtesy of fiq|n900 |
| 22:50.13 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
| 22:50.16 | DocScrutinizer | nfc |
| 22:50.42 | qwazix_N950 | Oops I think our little botabuse messed things up. Sorry for that. |
| 22:51.17 | DocScrutinizer | hates mysql databases |
| 22:51.36 | DocScrutinizer | ~listkeys infobot |
| 22:51.42 | *** join/#maemo markinfo (~marek@dhcp13.dmg.tuwien.ac.at) |
| 22:52.42 | RiD | eh, sorry for the mess :o |
| 22:52.48 | DocScrutinizer | np |
| 22:53.12 | DocScrutinizer | I guess mysql did a transaction rollback, or sth |
| 22:53.27 | DocScrutinizer | nfc |
| 22:53.39 | DocScrutinizer | ~literal infobot |
| 22:53.39 | infobot | "infobot" is "<reply>$who, i love abuse, feed me!, or whack, yo" |
| 22:53.53 | DocScrutinizer | ~forget infobot |
| 22:53.54 | infobot | i forgot infobot, DocScrutinizer |
| 22:54.06 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot is me |
| 22:54.14 | DocScrutinizer | weird shit |
| 22:54.21 | DocScrutinizer | ~ infobot is me |
| 22:54.21 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 22:54.32 | qwazix_N950 | Yay |
| 22:54.33 | FIQ|n900 | um, I think that was a bad idea |
| 22:54.39 | FIQ|n900 | ~ |
| 22:54.46 | merlin1991 | ~nfc |
| 22:54.47 | infobot | i guess nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications |
| 22:54.50 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: no, infobot is me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot || apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:54.50 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 22:54.56 | merlin1991 | ~bonkers |
| 22:54.57 | infobot | i heard bonkers is insane |
| 22:54.57 | DocScrutinizer | ~lock infobot |
| 22:54.57 | infobot | locking factoid infobot, DocScrutinizer |
| 22:55.16 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:55.17 | infobot | hmm... infobot is apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:55.25 | DocScrutinizer | haha |
| 22:55.39 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: no, infobot is me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot // apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:55.39 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 22:55.45 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:55.45 | infobot | infobot is probably me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ |
| 22:56.04 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: no, infobot is me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ // The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot // apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:56.04 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 22:56.07 | FIQ|n900 | ~qwazix_N950 |
| 22:56.07 | infobot | qwazix_n950 is, like, a robot |
| 22:56.08 | DocScrutinizer | ~infobot |
| 22:56.08 | infobot | somebody said infobot was me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ // The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot // apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 22:56.38 | FIQ|n900 | ~infobot no, |
| 22:56.53 | qwazix_N950 | The one with the pipes was better, methinks |
| 22:57.04 | FIQ|n900 | factstats new |
| 22:57.10 | DocScrutinizer | ~literal infobot no, |
| 22:57.11 | infobot | "infobot no," is "I love you too" |
| 22:57.19 | FIQ|n900 | ~factstats new |
| 22:57.42 | DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo infobot no, |
| 22:57.42 | infobot | infobot no, -- created by RiD <~GhostRide@bl22-156-184.dsl.telepac.pt> 25m 2s ago. |
| 22:57.54 | DocScrutinizer | ~forget infobot no, |
| 22:57.54 | infobot | i forgot infobot no,, DocScrutinizer |
| 22:58.41 | FIQ|n900 | ~ping |
| 22:58.41 | infobot | ~pong |
| 22:58.58 | DocScrutinizer | could you please try to redefine ~infobot? |
| 22:59.07 | DocScrutinizer | could you please try to redefine ~infobot ? |
| 22:59.11 | qwazix_N950 | Ok |
| 22:59.28 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, infobot is an irc robot |
| 22:59.28 | infobot | cannot alter locked factoids, qwazix_N950 |
| 22:59.32 | *** join/#maemo flx_ (flux@coffee.modeemi.fi) |
| 22:59.36 | DocScrutinizer | thanks |
| 22:59.46 | FIQ|n900 | lets see if this works |
| 22:59.50 | FIQ|n900 | ~unlock infobot |
| 23:00.02 | FIQ|n900 | apparently not |
| 23:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | you can't lock/unlock, except your own nick |
| 23:00.20 | merlin1991 | ~merlin1991 |
| 23:00.24 | merlin1991 | boring :D |
| 23:00.28 | FIQ|n900 | DocScrutinizer: ok |
| 23:00.34 | merlin1991 | ~DocScrutinizer |
| 23:00.34 | infobot | methinks docscrutinizer is jOERG, a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko |
| 23:01.10 | qwazix_N950 | Infobot, forget qwaxix_n950 |
| 23:01.10 | infobot | qwazix_N950: i didn't have anything called 'qwaxix_n950' to forget |
| 23:01.21 | DocScrutinizer | plus I'd hope you can also lock <nick>'s pager |
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| 23:01.26 | FIQ|n900 | infobot: forget qwazix_N950 |
| 23:01.26 | infobot | i forgot qwazix_n950, FIQ|n900 |
| 23:01.37 | qwazix_N950 | Thanks |
| 23:01.51 | FIQ|n900 | try tabbing more :p |
| 23:02.03 | FIQ|n900 | (or ctrl+i if you use a terminal) |
| 23:02.24 | DocScrutinizer | or shift-space if you use xchat-n900 ;-D |
| 23:02.30 | qwazix_N950 | No tab on the N950 (simpleirc) |
| 23:02.44 | *** join/#maemo RiD (~RiD@2.83.156.184) |
| 23:02.56 | qwazix_N950 | Remapped that to ctrl+right |
| 23:03.06 | FIQ|n900 | DocScrutinizer: I used irssi for a great deal of time on N900 |
| 23:03.22 | FIQ|n900 | After starting to use xchat, I did ctrl+i all the time |
| 23:03.28 | qwazix_N950 | Used to that combo from microb |
| 23:03.29 | FIQ|n900 | Which was... a bit annoying |
| 23:03.33 | DocScrutinizer | I miss the tabs-tree there |
| 23:03.55 | FIQ|n900 | as ctrl+i does weird things with windows |
| 23:04.08 | FIQ|n900 | and may segfault xchat on n900 for some reason |
| 23:04.19 | DocScrutinizer | ~ merlin1991 is the secret master of CSSU |
| 23:04.19 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 23:04.38 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: you could lock your factoid so others can't mess with it |
| 23:04.49 | RiD | thanks FIQ|n900 |
| 23:04.53 | merlin1991 | I think you had a typo there :D |
| 23:04.54 | merlin1991 | ~ |
| 23:04.56 | FIQ|n900 | ? |
| 23:04.57 | merlin1991 | ~ merlin1991 |
| 23:04.58 | infobot | it has been said that merlin1991 is the secret master of CSSU |
| 23:05.00 | FIQ|n900 | what did I do |
| 23:05.02 | RiD | i did that and now i dont know how to revert |
| 23:05.02 | merlin1991 | ~merlin1991 |
| 23:05.02 | infobot | from memory, merlin1991 is the secret master of CSSU |
| 23:05.08 | FIQ|n900 | oh |
| 23:05.10 | RiD | ctrl+i :p |
| 23:05.10 | merlin1991 | I thought it does not work with space |
| 23:05.12 | merlin1991 | weird |
| 23:05.13 | FIQ|n900 | try do it again |
| 23:05.14 | FIQ|n900 | :P |
| 23:05.25 | RiD | oh nice |
| 23:05.27 | DocScrutinizer | ~merlin1991 |
| 23:05.27 | infobot | i heard merlin1991 is the secret master of CSSU |
| 23:05.41 | RiD | not going to touch that anymore |
| 23:05.46 | FIQ|n900 | will you try everything I tell about w/o asking first? :D |
| 23:05.58 | RiD | not xterm related stuff :o |
| 23:06.18 | FIQ|n900 | RiD: well, I understand why :) @ not using ctrl+i |
| 23:06.40 | FIQ|n900 | if I only could disable it somehow... |
| 23:06.50 | RiD | on the conf file? |
| 23:06.54 | FIQ|n900 | wut |
| 23:07.01 | FIQ|n900 | is keyboard shortcuts stored there? |
| 23:07.04 | FIQ|n900 | looks |
| 23:07.06 | RiD | i guess? |
| 23:07.10 | RiD | lol |
| 23:07.10 | qwazix_N950 | Check the preferences, theres a keymap page |
| 23:07.21 | FIQ|n900 | hm |
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| 23:07.38 | RiD | qwazix_N950 there isn't |
| 23:08.22 | qwazix_N950 | Don't have it now in front of me but I remapped completion from tab to ctrl+right yesterday |
| 23:08.23 | FIQ|n900 | qwazix_N950: no? |
| 23:08.29 | DocScrutinizer | there's even a GUI for key shortcuts |
| 23:08.50 | DocScrutinizer | oops, qwazix_N950 already said that |
| 23:08.51 | FIQ|n900 | oh |
| 23:08.56 | FIQ|n900 | not preferences |
| 23:09.02 | FIQ|n900 | but in "advanced settings" |
| 23:09.09 | RiD | feels like a dust particle in the wind |
| 23:09.16 | FIQ|n900 | brilliant UI on N900 |
| 23:09.26 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 23:09.38 | DocScrutinizer | directly editing the conffile is better |
| 23:10.06 | RiD | haha |
| 23:10.26 | qwazix_N950 | It almost always is, I wonder why settings pages don't always have a search box |
| 23:10.43 | qwazix_N950 | Best of both worlds |
| 23:10.51 | DocScrutinizer | a "edit" button ;-P |
| 23:11.53 | DocScrutinizer | well, RST38h refuses to hack on xchat any further :-/ |
| 23:12.00 | qwazix_N950 | It's always easier for example to find a setting in about:config on ff than in edit>preferences |
| 23:12.37 | FIQ|n900 | um |
| 23:12.45 | FIQ|n900 | C-i isn't there |
| 23:12.57 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 23:13.01 | FIQ|n900 | there's C-o, C-k, C-b |
| 23:13.02 | DocScrutinizer | then define it |
| 23:13.06 | FIQ|n900 | and various other things |
| 23:13.10 | FIQ|n900 | but not C-i |
| 23:13.11 | DocScrutinizer | map it to null |
| 23:13.22 | FIQ|n900 | literally "null"? |
| 23:13.26 | DocScrutinizer | nah |
| 23:13.30 | RiD | |
| 23:13.34 | FIQ|n900 | xchat wouldn't crash or anything? |
| 23:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | some do-nuttin function |
| 23:14.10 | DocScrutinizer | btw what happens on C-i? |
| 23:14.28 | FIQ|n900 | window goes to desktop |
| 23:14.31 | DocScrutinizer | segv? |
| 23:14.40 | FIQ|n900 | instead of uh |
| 23:14.55 | FIQ|n900 | well, not desktop |
| 23:15.22 | FIQ|n900 | suck at describing |
| 23:15.30 | FIQ|n900 | but doing it risk crashing xchat |
| 23:15.34 | FIQ|n900 | for some reason |
| 23:15.36 | FIQ|n900 | segfault |
| 23:15.39 | DocScrutinizer | feels like testing |
| 23:15.43 | FIQ|n900 | don't know why |
| 23:16.00 | FIQ|n900 | try holding the buttons if you don't manage to trigger it |
| 23:16.11 | DocScrutinizer | I know xchat serfaults a lot on unusual keys |
| 23:16.16 | RiD | channel separates to a new window dedicated to that channel only |
| 23:16.24 | FIQ|n900 | happens occasionally, dunno why |
| 23:16.28 | DocScrutinizer | e.g try unmapping vol+/- (F7/8 ?) |
| 23:16.28 | FIQ|n900 | yes, exactly |
| 23:16.30 | RiD | that's what happens on ctrl+i |
| 23:16.43 | FIQ|n900 | "to desktop" I belive it's called normally |
| 23:16.53 | FIQ|n900 | but that doesn't make much sense in maemo |
| 23:16.57 | RiD | never had any segfault with xchat but i dont go and press all the keys |
| 23:17.15 | FIQ|n900 | brb restart |
| 23:17.32 | DocScrutinizer | well, I once thought font+/- like in xterm was nice for xchat |
| 23:17.37 | DocScrutinizer | on vol+/- |
| 23:17.45 | DocScrutinizer | so I unmapped the keys |
| 23:17.54 | DocScrutinizer | ->SEGV |
| 23:18.34 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 23:18.34 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: aw, gee |
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| 23:19.13 | FIQ|n900 | hm, well |
| 23:19.28 | FIQ|n900 | mapping C-i to something bogus was a *bad* idea |
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| 23:19.44 | FIQ|n900 | xchat complained and broke my conf file now :p |
| 23:19.51 | DocScrutinizer | dang |
| 23:19.59 | DocScrutinizer | use mine! ;-D |
| 23:20.03 | FIQ|n900 | and it didn't even solve my problem |
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| 23:20.11 | DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools /../xchat |
| 23:21.00 | FIQ|n900 | does it contain scary new shortcuts? |
| 23:21.09 | FIQ|n900 | ~google jrtools xchat |
| 23:21.12 | DocScrutinizer | NB xchat only writes back any changes done in preferences when you properly quit the app |
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| 23:21.22 | DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools |
| 23:21.22 | infobot | hmm... jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 23:21.27 | FIQ|n900 | =g jrtools xchat |
| 23:21.30 | DocScrutinizer | ../xchat |
| 23:21.31 | FIQ|n900 | um, oops |
| 23:21.35 | FIQ|n900 | I lag |
| 23:22.01 | FIQ|n900 | [01:21:27] <DocScrutinizer> NB xchat only writes back any changes done in preferences when you properly quit the app |
| 23:22.05 | DocScrutinizer | or: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat |
| 23:22.24 | FIQ|n900 | and pressing x button isn't "proper way"? |
| 23:22.30 | FIQ|n900 | ty |
| 23:22.32 | DocScrutinizer | it is |
| 23:22.46 | FIQ|n900 | hm, 404 |
| 23:22.56 | DocScrutinizer | *sigh* |
| 23:23.18 | FIQ|n900 | ah |
| 23:23.20 | FIQ|n900 | here we go |
| 23:23.21 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/ |
| 23:23.31 | FIQ|n900 | yes |
| 23:23.41 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/ |
| 23:23.50 | FIQ|n900 | fixed it |
| 23:24.17 | DocScrutinizer | ~jrxchat is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/ |
| 23:24.17 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 23:25.17 | FIQ|n900 | does D1:... matter? because I got two rubbish characters there |
| 23:25.30 | FIQ|n900 | (C-b and C-k) |
| 23:26.29 | qwazix_N950 | G'night guys |
| 23:27.11 | DocScrutinizer | o/ |
| 23:27.15 | FIQ|n900 | ah, it's just chr(2) and 3 |
| 23:27.46 | DocScrutinizer | also hits the sack |
| 23:28.32 | RiD | sack |
| 23:33.00 | DocScrutinizer | ~strip |
| 23:33.00 | infobot | Secure password and account manager for Palm Pilots.. URL: http://www.zetetic.net/products.html#strip |
| 23:33.09 | DocScrutinizer | ~striptease |
| 23:33.09 | infobot | Hoogah Hoogah wah wah *takes of the box* *dances around showing of the cpu and memory* Ah yeah you likey my little HD no? |
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| 23:35.43 | FIQ|n900 | now I'm sad for real |
| 23:35.54 | FIQ|n900 | C-i was impossible to override :( |
| 23:36.15 | FIQ|n900 | placed something less annoying there (insert a T in the inputbox), didn't work |
| 23:36.33 | FIQ|n900 | but this time it didn't complain on unknown settings, so it isn't that |
| 23:36.45 | RiD | directly change the conf file |
| 23:38.16 | FIQ|n900 | i did |
| 23:38.30 | FIQ|n900 | it just ignored C-i |
| 23:38.41 | FIQ|n900 | but other things worked |
| 23:38.52 | FIQ|n900 | like changing the C-b shortcut |
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| 23:42.56 | FIQ|n900 | after quick discussion with #xchat - it's impossible with current source |
| 23:43.07 | FIQ|n900 | of course that can be edited, but yeah |
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