| 00:00.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | cubes* even |
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| 00:17.23 | SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/silicone-brick-design-ice-cubes-maker-diy-mould-blue-138652 |
| 00:17.35 | SpeedEvil | I don't think avoiding the trademark name will fool anyone :) |
| 00:20.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: I'd like to see more of your remarks and critics in cssu |
| 00:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know you as an exceptionally sharp mind |
| 00:21.57 | SpeedEvil | I'm doing an appeal against a legal decision at the moment. |
| 00:22.09 | SpeedEvil | I'll add it in the next week or so when that's done. |
| 00:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) and good luck! |
| 00:23.02 | SpeedEvil | Which will boil down to again 'read my actual submission, it diddn't say that' |
| 00:23.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* - buerocracy |
| 00:24.15 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 00:24.41 | SpeedEvil | Thanks. |
| 00:24.47 | SpeedEvil | Adding to the fun is the delay. |
| 00:24.56 | SpeedEvil | It's been ~14mo since the original decision. |
| 00:25.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
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| 00:29.14 | zeq1 | freemangordon: Interesting datapoint: This needs to be verified, but Stellarium has gone from ~8-10fps to 50-60fps with the thumb/neon qt build |
| 00:29.39 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 00:30.32 | zeq1 | I didn't expect that. I was just making sure everything still worked |
| 00:33.40 | zeq1 | damn, my zoom keys patch didn't work :( |
| 00:34.58 | zeq1 | XError: X_ChangeProperty: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) |
| 00:35.11 | zeq1 | winId |
| 00:36.48 | zeq1 | has done enough for tonight |
| 00:40.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: :-) |
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| 00:53.24 | Estel_ | zeq, sounds awesome |
| 00:53.31 | Estel_ | why so much gain? some bug in normal compilation? |
| 00:54.06 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, it's cool here, what You've did to channel? |
| 00:54.42 | Estel_ | nooooob question. I've program that I need to wrap inside wrapper, so it will kill xbindkeys upon exectuion, and will run xbindkeys again, when killed, no matter if gracefully or not |
| 00:54.50 | Estel_ | how should it be done, re best coding practices? |
| 00:55.03 | Estel_ | i.e. what would be msot "bulletproof" way to do it? |
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| 01:01.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | check trap command in shell scripting |
| 01:01.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | new hostmode vboost script is using it that way |
| 01:03.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually, a lot more of scripts should use a trap cleanup construct, to make sure not to leave temporary files, half-isntalled packages, whatnot else, when existing in an unexcpected way |
| 01:04.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | you migth also google for fsoraw, a wrapper I invented for doing almost exactly what you asked for |
| 01:07.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | (fsoraw is the FSO resource allocation wrapper, a timy proggie that e.g switches screen backlight to "stay on" while the wrapped-up binary (game etc) is running. And it's built in a way so it basically can't fail to restore whatever resource allocated to the original state, when the monitored game quits |
| 01:07.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ) |
| 01:08.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I admit dbus is doing a great deal to ensure this property |
| 01:08.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that are FSO internal details that are somewhat OT here |
| 01:09.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | for your purpose a trap on exit should do the trick |
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| 01:09.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | in a shell script |
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| 01:26.14 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, thanks a lot, very interesting readings |
| 01:26.34 | Estel_ | BTw, You just made me aware, that I also want screen kept on during working of this program :) |
| 01:27.24 | Estel_ | for a newbie, this trap looks tricky (lol!, so I have many pleasant hours of testing it and fsoraw, to udnerstand ins and outs |
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| 03:47.20 | kwtm | wups, wrong channel. |
| 03:47.24 | kwtm | seen kwtm |
| 03:47.34 | kwtm | Ok, I am officially disconnected. |
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| 04:06.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen kwtm |
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| 06:09.30 | zeq | Estel_: In the qt4 build NEON intrinsics are used for SIMD, which is a huge win on the Cortex-A8. I suspect if we profiled Stellarium we'd find within the UI drawing code one or more calls to qt functions dominating runtime. This can have the result of preventing the 3D hardware being kept busy, effectively serializing execution between CPU and GPU. If this bottleneck is relieved by those calls returning faster the 3D hw has |
| 06:10.52 | zeq | The idea with GPU acceleration is to keep the GPU command buffer sufficiently full to allow the CPU to get on with other things. |
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| 06:14.32 | zeq | freemangordon: I don't know if you figured this out or not, but within the mozilla _obj-build_ tree you can call make in subdirs to rebuild the module you're working on. When finished, from the top of the "obj-build", you can use make deb to actually build the .deb. |
| 06:14.42 | zeq | WFM |
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| 06:25.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | irssi, the client that ruthlessly trunkates whatever you write (or rather, doesn't care at all about max post len of irc server) |
| 06:25.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
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| 06:27.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | (call make in subdirs) thanks for late confirmation that my suggestion not been complete nonsense :-) |
| 06:27.34 | iluminator105 | i am repairing a n900 and on internet connections it always shows ppp0 on it what is that |
| 06:28.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, you lost me. maybe rephrase the question |
| 06:29.13 | iluminator105 | on the internet connection it always shows ppp0 on it |
| 06:29.23 | iluminator105 | as like a connection point |
| 06:29.28 | iluminator105 | how do i remove that |
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| 06:31.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | reflash? |
| 06:31.14 | iluminator105 | ppp0 is not in network interfaces |
| 06:31.24 | iluminator105 | reflash what you mean |
| 06:31.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 06:31.34 | infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 06:31.53 | iluminator105 | if i was to backing everything to install maemo how would i do that |
| 06:32.03 | iluminator105 | if i was to backing everything to nemo how would i do that |
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| 06:34.41 | zeq | DocScrutinizer05: yep, your advise was sound, I suspect freemangordon was in the source tree when he tried it. |
| 06:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | iluminator105: no idea about nemo. On maemo you got exatly two complementary backup tools: the genuine backup application and then backupmenu which you need to install from extras repository |
| 06:38.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ideally you stor both backup archives to a uSD card |
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| 06:39.13 | iluminator105 | what is dd the whole thing to an external drive would that work |
| 06:39.23 | iluminator105 | what if i dd the whole thing to an external drive would that work |
| 06:39.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's basically what backupmenu does, but in a way it actually works |
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| 06:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no, dd will never work, unless you later do tricks like loopmounting the image. You can't restore dd raw images to NAND flash storage |
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| 06:44.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway may I congratulate to your new device and welcome you as a part of the maemo community? :-) |
| 06:45.43 | iluminator105 | i thought backup application just backed up numbers and unique data? |
| 06:45.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, kinda |
| 06:46.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | backupmenu is a different "app" though |
| 06:47.53 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05, zeq: thanks, will try it next time I'm on it |
| 06:47.56 | iluminator105 | hmm...i will hold up on upgrading this is my one phone...and i would be screwed if it didnt work |
| 06:48.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should do that as soon as possible |
| 06:49.08 | iluminator105 | why do you say that |
| 06:49.20 | iluminator105 | ppp0 interconnect is security risk? |
| 06:49.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | and since it's new (at least I assume you got it recently) there can't be much on the phone yet that needs backup |
| 06:50.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I got no idea what's that ppp0 |
| 06:50.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's exactly the point: you should start with a fresh and clean OS |
| 06:50.54 | iluminator105 | not its not new i been using it for a while |
| 06:51.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | then build your own "system" on that, so you have a clue what you did and what might have happened |
| 06:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *might* figure ppp0 interface is related to fmms, but that's mere handwaving |
| 06:53.06 | iluminator105 | yea i do have fmms |
| 06:53.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | since I never installed nor looked into sourcecode of fmms |
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| 06:54.00 | iluminator105 | DocScrutinizer, we will talk later gotta go thanks man bye |
| 06:54.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw, see you later then |
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| 06:56.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and get backupmenu! |
| 06:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 06:57.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 06:57.40 | infobot | i heard backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 06:57.46 | StyXman | these people, is it that they forgot punctuatioon or they never knew it? |
| 06:58.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, he used a comma ;-) |
| 06:58.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, that's been tab nick completion |
| 07:00.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, he used...as punktuation |
| 07:01.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe punktuation rules are different in his native language ;-) |
| 07:01.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/k/c/ |
| 07:01.39 | fasta | I installed FCamera and made some shots, but it looks absolutely terrible. If I look at it on my HD screen, I can even see the pixels very clearly. It is supposed to look sharp then and only when you zoom in you should see pixels. |
| 07:02.15 | fasta | I have a 10.6MB file, but still it looks very bad. |
| 07:02.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, as long as you didn't use digital zoom of N900 too much when taking the shots, yes |
| 07:03.30 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: can I see that in some property of the resulting FCamera file? |
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| 07:03.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if it's in exif, or if fcam stores exif at all |
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| 07:04.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway digital zoom basically is a hoax |
| 07:05.26 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: FCam cannot even do digital zoom. |
| 07:05.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 07:05.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | wut? |
| 07:05.57 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: when I move the slider, my audio goes up/down. |
| 07:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah |
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| 07:06.46 | fasta | DocScrutinizer05: isn't it possible to modify the normal camera application to just have a different jpeg compression? |
| 07:06.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | very strange - though I rarely ever used fcam so can't really comment |
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| 07:07.30 | fizzie | IIRC (I don't have FCamera installed right now) it does have a zoom thing; it just doesn't do the bindings to the volume key, it's somewhere in the menus. |
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| 07:07.51 | fizzie | (Then again, it's not really useful, so.) |
| 07:07.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *think* I heard of such option, even store raw images |
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| 07:09.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | the photographers seem asleep still :-D |
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| 07:14.35 | freemangordon | fizzie:iirc it could be done, by modifying /etc/gdigicam/?.conf, though never tried it for stock camera-ui. |
| 07:16.19 | zeq | freemangordon: Going to test my hopefully fixed zoom key enable code now. If you don't have time at the moment to work on the rotation code, could you paste the pertinent info so I can have a look, I lost my scrollback from irc.mozilla.org, when my battery went flat! :$ |
| 07:17.43 | freemangordon | zeq: here you are "zeq: yep, see MozMGraphicsView resizeEvent, MozMSceneWindow CheckTopLevelSize, MozQGraphicsViewEvents, also check nsScreenQt::GetAvailRect in widget/qt/nsScreenQt.cpp, there are some hooks under MOZ_ENABLE_QTMOBILITY define (rotation related )" |
| 07:18.06 | zeq | freemangordon: thx:) |
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| 07:26.17 | zeq | freemangordon: The input handling in the qtwidget is quite complex, and clearly make assumptions which aren't compatible with the hildon input method. Shall we just #ifdef out most of that code and see what happens? |
| 07:27.01 | zeq | (I don't know if you tried using the keyboard in fennec, if you did, you'd see what I mean) |
| 07:28.03 | freemangordon | zeq: it works ok for me, the only glitch i saw is that VKB opens twice when you press address bar with phisical KB closed |
| 07:28.12 | freemangordon | *physical |
| 07:29.00 | freemangordon | bbl |
| 07:29.19 | zeq | freemangordon: ok, chat with you later |
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| 07:37.57 | Dr_I | hello community how is meamo today? |
| 07:38.29 | Dr_I | maemo elter |
| 07:44.20 | zeq | merlin1991: Once I have finished Fennec, I'll look into getting sb-toolchain-extras to support modern GNU toolchains. After your prompting, I did look into it again, and I think you're right, it would be useful. |
| 07:45.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: where you've hidden the last 2 years? |
| 07:45.41 | Dr_I | Fennec is ok tho My mae browser is best |
| 07:46.24 | Dr_I | no touch on the defactor |
| 07:46.26 | zeq | DocScrutinizer05: I've been fixing Gentoo bugs! :) |
| 07:46.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: at least on my radar you appeared out of nowhere and did a rocket start into top ten of most active contributors :-D |
| 07:47.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | much appreciated, I have to ask the MWKN guys who formerly did that "developer of the month" thing |
| 07:47.48 | zeq | Actually, the last thing I was working on I had to put to one side for now. The radeon drm driver doesn't hot-unplug, I was trying to fix it... |
| 07:48.20 | zeq | This is *much* easier by comparison! :) |
| 07:48.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 07:48.59 | zeq | before that I was poking around the linux PCI code |
| 07:49.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | no worries, we have some really hard stuff waiting for your attention ;-) |
| 07:49.30 | zeq | I bet! |
| 07:49.47 | zeq | I do sometimes take on things that I can't get my head around though :/ |
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| 07:50.29 | zeq | You have to acknowledge you limits occasionaly ;) |
| 07:50.35 | zeq | s/you/your/ |
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| 07:53.07 | zeq | I think what actually finally got me active here was my annoyance with Nokia finally reached breaking point, so I thought: "I'll show 'em" :D |
| 07:54.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 07:55.32 | zeq | Still lots of untapped potential the N900 :) |
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| 07:55.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 07:56.35 | Dr_I | pure |
| 07:56.46 | Dr_I | the delight |
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| 07:58.40 | zeq | Got the zoom keys grabbed, did hope it would just zoom on the key events... no such luck :( |
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| 08:04.22 | freemangordon | zeq: we're still missing setAttribute(Qt::WA_Maemo5AutoOrientation, true); for mozWidget put somwhere in the code |
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| 08:05.11 | zeq | I'm onto that, it logically should be with the zoom key grab anyway, right? |
| 08:06.13 | freemangordon | hmm, not sure, but basically this property should be set on the main window. |
| 08:06.24 | zeq | Same as the zoom key grab |
| 08:06.34 | zeq | which I've got working |
| 08:06.49 | zeq | except I can't find the code that maps the key events to zoom |
| 08:06.50 | freemangordon | great !!! |
| 08:07.07 | freemangordon | are there keyboard shortcuts? |
| 08:07.09 | zeq | I know it previously worked in the gtk version, so the code is there *somewhere* |
| 08:07.35 | zeq | they apparently map to F7 and F8 |
| 08:08.13 | zeq | I know the grab succeeded :) |
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| 08:08.20 | phrearch | hello |
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| 08:08.39 | phrearch | is it possible to install openvpn on the n900 currently? |
| 08:08.47 | phrearch | i need my n900 to be an openvpn server |
| 08:08.59 | freemangordon | zeq: setAttribute(Qt::WA_Maemo5NonComposited); is a must, that would speed up the thinks by 20-30% |
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| 08:09.14 | freemangordon | s/would/should/ |
| 08:10.02 | freemangordon | it must be done on the main application window |
| 08:10.08 | zeq | cool :) |
| 08:10.23 | zeq | I'll put it with the other code then |
| 08:10.39 | freemangordon | zeq: which code creates the main windoe? |
| 08:11.36 | freemangordon | I mean in which source file? |
| 08:12.00 | zeq | nsWindow.cpp nsWindow::Create |
| 08:12.06 | phrearch | anyone? |
| 08:12.20 | zeq | if (aInitData && aInitData->mWindowType == eWindowType_toplevel) { |
| 08:12.39 | zeq | since it actually creates all the windows, you need to check which it is |
| 08:13.16 | zeq | I've put in the autorotate and noncomposited |
| 08:13.25 | freemangordon | zeq: are you sure Qt(i.e. native) top window is created there? Hmm, ok. |
| 08:13.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | phrearch: I recently heard sth about openvpn, alas I forgot details |
| 08:13.48 | zeq | yes |
| 08:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure there's a client |
| 08:14.05 | phrearch | i need the server |
| 08:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooops, vpn. Nope nevermind, I mixed that up |
| 08:14.43 | freemangordon | zeq: I seems like we need mListenForResizes set to true |
| 08:15.03 | phrearch | i can only find the openvpn applet in the repositories |
| 08:15.07 | phrearch | not sure if i missed one repos |
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| 08:15.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | phrearch: tried packet interface |
| 08:15.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 08:15.58 | phrearch | No, whats that? |
| 08:16.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | a webpage at maemo.org |
| 08:17.57 | phrearch | not sure, whats it about? |
| 08:17.59 | freemangordon | zeq: you could try to change the default in nsWindow constructor |
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| 08:18.34 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 08:19.26 | phrearch | weird, its supposed to be there |
| 08:19.37 | phrearch | http://maemo.org/packages/view/openvpn/ |
| 08:19.53 | zeq | building |
| 08:20.27 | zeq | ListenforResizes you mean? |
| 08:20.37 | phrearch | i have extras, extras-devel and extras-testing |
| 08:20.38 | zeq | set to enabled |
| 08:20.40 | zeq | ? |
| 08:21.00 | phrearch | fremantle 1.2 ovi is disabled |
| 08:21.06 | Lantizia | Has anyone else picked up that ~/MyDocs/.images/40_stripes4.jpg is missing from all N900's ? |
| 08:22.19 | Lantizia | as is ~/MyDocs/.images/Stripes.desktop |
| 08:22.41 | zeq | freemangordon: can I clarify, are you saying you think ListenforResizes should be set for the top level widget? |
| 08:23.09 | peetah | phrearch: openvpn package is what you're looking for |
| 08:23.30 | phrearch | peetah, cant find it in the package manager |
| 08:23.32 | phrearch | L* |
| 08:23.33 | phrearch | :( |
| 08:23.49 | phrearch | ill try apt-cache search |
| 08:23.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | use apt-cache search maybe |
| 08:23.55 | peetah | apt-cache search openvpn |
| 08:23.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 08:25.10 | zeq | freemangordon: make sure when you've made changes you use "make" on the top level obj-build tree before make deb, or else the changes don't get linked! |
| 08:25.41 | phrearch | ah its there |
| 08:28.54 | vi__ | fasta: If you are using non-cssu you can alter jpeg compression by changing the compression value in /etc/gdigicam/<someconfigfile.ini> |
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| 08:29.11 | vi__ | However you have to switch the device to use software encoding. |
| 08:29.33 | vi__ | By changing the word 'dspjpegenc' |
| 08:29.42 | vi__ | to 'jpegenc' |
| 08:29.49 | vi__ | Or something like that. |
| 08:30.18 | vi__ | The quality for hardware jpeg encoder is harcoded in libgstdsp.so |
| 08:30.23 | zeq | freemangordon: zoom just started working!?!? |
| 08:30.38 | zeq | :D |
| 08:30.58 | zeq | I think perhaps it just doesn't work on the homescreen..? |
| 08:31.01 | vi__ | Fortunatley if you update to cssu-testing you will get harmattan codecs and the hardcoded value has been set to the maximum. |
| 08:31.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | bwahaha |
| 08:31.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | # Set this to true to use the config from the file, and to false to |
| 08:31.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | # use the values provided from the application. |
| 08:31.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | useconfigfile=false |
| 08:32.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway: |
| 08:32.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | [imageenc] |
| 08:32.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | element=dspjpegenc |
| 08:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | #quality=95 |
| 08:32.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: ++ |
| 08:33.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | fasta: there you are |
| 08:35.30 | phrearch | hm, sudo gainroot asks for a pw, when i login from ssh |
| 08:35.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 08:36.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw "root" is the preferred command to login as root |
| 08:36.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sudo gainroot is like su without "-" |
| 08:36.29 | phrearch | aha better |
| 08:36.49 | phrearch | i better not set a password for the root account should i? |
| 08:36.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | you better should |
| 08:37.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | also see: |
| 08:37.05 | phrearch | not sure whether the phone still starts then |
| 08:37.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 08:37.07 | infobot | jrtools is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 08:37.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | it will start, believe me |
| 08:37.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 08:37.23 | phrearch | ok thanks :) |
| 08:37.47 | freemangordon | zeq: great |
| 08:37.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I tweaked sudoers/10* so it properly asks for *root* password on login |
| 08:38.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | works since > 1 year |
| 08:38.14 | phrearch | cool |
| 08:38.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course it's basically incomplete, as there are still many loopholes |
| 08:38.43 | zeq | freemangordon: I'll push after I confirm the rotate and no-composite changes are working |
| 08:39.27 | freemangordon | zeq: Yes, I think mListenforResizes should be set for all of the windows, nto sure though, maybe we will need dome logs turned on before a definitive conclusion |
| 08:39.31 | freemangordon | zeq: ok |
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| 08:40.29 | zeq | since I've change build machine, the slowest part is installing the deb on the n900 ;) |
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| 08:40.49 | phrearch | hm, root gives me "user" is not in the sudoers file |
| 08:42.46 | phrearch | err, think ive set a passwd on the regular phone user? |
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| 08:45.15 | zeq | freemangordon: it's working |
| 08:45.20 | zeq | I'm going to push now |
| 08:45.50 | zeq | ok done |
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| 08:46.56 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: Correct, also tell it to use config file :/. cheers buddy! |
| 08:49.13 | freemangordon | zeq: rotation? |
| 08:51.20 | zeq | it's enabled, I've not tried the listenforresizes change yet |
| 08:51.55 | zeq | h-d autorotate is enabled |
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| 08:54.08 | freemangordon | zeq: no, i mean is it working as it should. nvm, going to test it by myself |
| 08:54.52 | zeq | freemangordon: any idea what aNativeParent is? |
| 08:55.03 | freemangordon | lemme check the code |
| 08:56.53 | freemangordon | nsNativeWidget, typedef void* nsNativeWidget; |
| 08:57.33 | zeq | if it's true, listenforresizes gets enabled |
| 08:58.45 | freemangordon | hmm, parentQWidget = static_cast<MozQWidget*>(nativeParent); |
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| 08:59.10 | zeq | or if mListenForResizes is set in the aInitData passed to nsWindow::Create |
| 08:59.16 | freemangordon | it looks to me it is QWidget after all |
| 08:59.28 | freemangordon | yeah, I saw that code, thus my auestion |
| 09:00.11 | zeq | we need to check whether aNativeParent is true or not |
| 09:00.36 | freemangordon | or better put some qDebug dumping all those |
| 09:00.41 | zeq | yup |
| 09:01.41 | zeq | I can't see a lot of code in there relating to MEEGOTOUCH |
| 09:01.50 | zeq | mostly gesture support |
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| 09:08.14 | freemangordon | make in obj directory is as slow as dpkg-buildpackage -nc |
| 09:08.26 | freemangordon | :( |
| 09:08.40 | zeq | :( |
| 09:08.59 | zeq | you can test to see if your code compiles though in the subdir |
| 09:09.12 | zeq | but, yes linking etc does take a while |
| 09:09.34 | freemangordon | aah, yes, thanks for the hint |
| 09:09.37 | zeq | not sure about the non-composite option |
| 09:09.46 | freemangordon | why? |
| 09:10.14 | zeq | it is faster, but it seems it "forgets" what's scrolled off.. maybe it's just me and the site I tested... |
| 09:10.28 | zeq | it's quite image heavy |
| 09:10.42 | zeq | see how it works for you |
| 09:10.52 | zeq | it doesn't feel much different in speed to microb |
| 09:11.01 | zeq | different, but not really slower |
| 09:11.35 | freemangordon | I think it has nothing to do with non-composite option, that option is a hint to hildon-desktop, Qt knows nothing about it |
| 09:11.43 | zeq | ok :) |
| 09:11.51 | zeq | just the site then |
| 09:12.19 | zeq | it probably doesn't keep large images cached offscreen |
| 09:12.30 | freemangordon | or buggy QGraphicsWidget |
| 09:12.48 | freemangordon | yeah, there is another option fo caching, lemme find it |
| 09:13.10 | zeq | we need to be careful with memory though |
| 09:13.26 | freemangordon | sure :) |
| 09:13.55 | zeq | the behaviour I'm seeing is probably just the nature of the beast |
| 09:13.58 | freemangordon | but still I would prefer to have everything working before starting with the optimisations |
| 09:14.09 | freemangordon | i.e. rotation |
| 09:14.24 | zeq | what happens is when you scroll and there's a large image, the page blanks until the image is displayed |
| 09:14.40 | freemangordon | i think this is how it works |
| 09:14.45 | zeq | yeah |
| 09:15.12 | zeq | getting rotation going is definitely the priority :) |
| 09:15.26 | zeq | you need to test the keyboard properly too, you'll see what I mean |
| 09:16.02 | zeq | try to use any of the blue symbols except numbers |
| 09:16.28 | zeq | or try fn, <release>, number |
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| 09:18.10 | zeq | freemangordon: do you know what docshell is? |
| 09:18.19 | zeq | I'm grepping the code for MEEGOTOUCH |
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| 09:21.34 | freemangordon | zeq: re keyboard: that should be pretty easy to be fixed, it should work oob, so we need to just bypass some code |
| 09:21.59 | zeq | freemangordon: yes, that was my thought |
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| 09:36.41 | zeq | freemangordon: need to add the Hildon style fullscreen toggle button too, at the moment it seems to be mapped to cursor up/down keys! |
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| 09:50.16 | freemangordon | zeq: do we need it non-fulscreen? |
| 09:50.34 | freemangordon | i'd rather disable that |
| 10:00.02 | Lava_Croft | force fennec fullscreen? :< |
| 10:04.06 | zeq | freemangordon: I don't mean "true" fullscreen, I was referring to on-screen widgets (url bar). |
| 10:04.17 | zeq | if you try cursor up/down, you'll see what I mean |
| 10:04.50 | zeq | generally in hildon apps, the semi-transparent hidden toggle is in the bottom right cornerer |
| 10:05.06 | zeq | s/cornerer/corner/ |
| 10:05.17 | zeq | for this |
| 10:06.19 | zeq | there's sample code on the qt exammples site to enable this, it doesn't look hard to implement |
| 10:06.49 | zeq | clearly I'm typing too quickly :/ |
| 10:08.03 | zeq | one thing at a time though. I'm trying an experiment: I've removed the coded to clear aNativeParent for top-level widget |
| 10:08.55 | freemangordon | zeq: which branch you put your commits to? |
| 10:09.29 | zeq | should be on master..? |
| 10:09.33 | zeq | is it not? |
| 10:09.39 | zeq | I'll take a look |
| 10:09.47 | freemangordon | hmm, what is supposed to zoom? |
| 10:09.52 | freemangordon | volume keys? |
| 10:10.06 | zeq | yes |
| 10:10.14 | zeq | it works |
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| 10:10.25 | zeq | standard hildon funtionality :) |
| 10:10.42 | freemangordon | not here, lemme check on which commit is my HEAD |
| 10:10.58 | zeq | you need to be on a web page other than the start page |
| 10:11.33 | freemangordon | I didn't pull your commits, my bad |
| 10:11.34 | zeq | or perhaps there's a bug where you have to switch apps? hopefully not |
| 10:11.39 | zeq | ah |
| 10:11.54 | zeq | there's only one commit |
| 10:12.18 | zeq | I thought it would be okay, since they're all very localized |
| 10:12.19 | freemangordon | yep, pulled |
| 10:12.26 | freemangordon | now building |
| 10:12.28 | zeq | ok |
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| 10:27.43 | zeq | freemangordon: that didn't make a difference. It's odd, but I haven't see again the behaviour I saw the first time, when it *tried* to resize. |
| 10:30.22 | zeq | freemangordon: how do you get the deb to your device? I've set up a nfs export on the server of my scractchbox homedir |
| 10:31.08 | zeq | just click on the deb in filemanager |
| 10:31.51 | freemangordon | zeq: I am using qinscp |
| 10:31.55 | freemangordon | *winscp |
| 10:32.05 | freemangordon | and install it with dpkg |
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| 10:33.10 | zeq | freemangordon: I don't know if you saw last night, but I tested Stellarium with my qt neon build, it's gone from ~10fps to ~60fps |
| 10:33.25 | ZogG_lap1op | o_O |
| 10:33.42 | zeq | defintely worth it ;) |
| 10:34.10 | ZogG_lap1op | x6 is totally worth it |
| 10:34.23 | zeq | yup |
| 10:34.40 | freemangordon | i missed that part, but yeah, that's impressive |
| 10:35.00 | zeq | I explained my theory why in the scrollback |
| 10:35.31 | freemangordon | yeah, i saw something about gfx accelerator data starvation |
| 10:35.37 | zeq | yeah |
| 10:35.58 | zeq | I'm probably seeing higher performance from fennec with this qt build too |
| 10:36.09 | freemangordon | i can bet on that |
| 10:36.29 | freemangordon | do i need 4.6.3 to build it, or 4.6.2 will be enough? |
| 10:36.46 | zeq | not sure, 4.6.3 is probably better ;) |
| 10:37.05 | freemangordon | zeq: but the other stuff in the repo is 4.6.2 |
| 10:37.16 | zeq | shouldn't matter |
| 10:37.20 | freemangordon | libstdc++ too ;) |
| 10:37.28 | zeq | still shouldn't matter |
| 10:37.31 | trx | which qt version is that? |
| 10:37.35 | freemangordon | 4.7.4 |
| 10:37.36 | zeq | symbols are versioned |
| 10:37.46 | trx | thats great |
| 10:38.00 | freemangordon | zeq: i will have to push a new libsdtc++ too |
| 10:38.01 | zeq | you can break libstdc++ only in one direction ;) |
| 10:38.22 | freemangordon | trx: 4.7.4 has been in CSSU for ages ;) |
| 10:38.25 | zeq | don't build any c++ apps against the linaro 4.7 yet ;) |
| 10:39.08 | zeq | we really don't want to have to carry compat c++ libs! |
| 10:39.13 | trx | freemangordon yeah i know, but qml was a bit slow, this would improve it, right? |
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| 10:40.52 | zeq | trx: quite possibly you'll see big performance increases |
| 10:42.02 | zeq | I strongly suspect there's going to be a lot less demand for overclocking |
| 10:43.50 | zeq | what will be even more fun is when we switch to linaro 4.7 with the NEON auto-vectorizer :D |
| 10:44.15 | zeq | LTO should help then too |
| 10:46.11 | trx | LTO? |
| 10:46.27 | trx | what does that stand for? |
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| 10:48.15 | zeq | Link Time Optimization: it means the toolchian defers optimization until linking |
| 10:49.43 | zeq | it produces smaller more optimal code because it can identify optimiations across all units of the program |
| 10:50.36 | zeq | it was not really usable until gcc-4.7 though |
| 10:51.22 | trx | i didnt know that, that sounds good |
| 10:51.50 | trx | but does everything need to be recompiled, that qt links agains? |
| 10:51.54 | trx | against* |
| 10:52.02 | zeq | no |
| 10:52.28 | zeq | it's the same ABI |
| 10:53.31 | zeq | freemangordon: did the build work? |
| 10:54.06 | zeq | or are you changing toolchain and rebuilding qt? |
| 10:54.11 | freemangordon | zeq: zoom by volume keys works. And man, that is fast, even with my thumb-only Qt |
| 10:54.23 | zeq | yeah, it's nice |
| 10:54.23 | freemangordon | zeq: not now |
| 10:54.33 | zeq | not far off from microb |
| 10:54.43 | freemangordon | yep |
| 10:55.00 | freemangordon | zeq: I will hold on toolchain change until 4.7 |
| 10:55.01 | zeq | in fact I think microb is more responsive, but doesn't always redraw |
| 10:55.37 | zeq | ok, i'll keep my debs to myself for now then :) |
| 10:56.48 | zeq | fennec (except with the large image files I mentioned) always redraws as it scrolls |
| 10:57.03 | zeq | at least relative to microb |
| 10:58.18 | zeq | freemangordon: are you getting any resizing at all from rotation? |
| 10:58.44 | zeq | it doesn't seem to be getting triggered anymore |
| 10:59.23 | zeq | orientationChanged() I mean |
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| 11:03.28 | freemangordon | zeq: should be, didn't check though |
| 11:03.53 | freemangordon | anyway, i a going to put some qDebug() in a couple of functions |
| 11:03.58 | freemangordon | *I am |
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| 11:12.53 | zeq | freemangordon, I've an idea: I'm going to modifiy the OnResizeEvent handler and drop the code into orientationChanged() |
| 11:14.19 | zeq | I just need to read the new width and height, is that available through QApplication::desktop()? |
| 11:15.34 | zeq | actually I have an even better idea |
| 11:16.41 | zeq | can't we just call OnResizeEvent() as the handler after passing the right thing to aEvent? |
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| 11:17.10 | zeq | do we have an object with the right structure? |
| 11:18.36 | zeq | if not we can wrap it |
| 11:19.54 | zeq | tell me if I'm talking nonsense, I suspect I might be ;) |
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| 11:52.26 | zeq | nvm about the above, I was just thinking out loud |
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| 12:09.50 | zeq | freemangordon: resize is working |
| 12:11.38 | zeq | In the end I just set mListenForResizes unconditionally true for Maemo, and with the code you added before, it just works. |
| 12:11.47 | zeq | :D |
| 12:12.33 | zeq | or it did... ? |
| 12:12.42 | zeq | now it's stopped :( |
| 12:12.46 | zeq | wtf? |
| 12:13.19 | zeq | I rotated a couple of times and it worked, just did it again and it didn't :( |
| 12:14.28 | ZogG_lap1op | btw yesterday there was talk about games and frameworks, cocos2d-x is avilable for harmattan =) |
| 12:17.26 | zeq | freemangordon: it sometimes works, and when it does, it does so correctly. |
| 12:17.44 | zeq | other times, it's like it's not receiving the signal |
| 12:17.53 | zeq | perhaps there's a race condition? |
| 12:18.27 | zeq | theory: |
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| 12:19.43 | zeq | you get the geomety from the QApplication::Desktop class, could it be the root window doesn't resize before the signal is processed? |
| 12:20.17 | zeq | s/geomety/geometry/ |
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| 12:58.35 | zeq | freemangordon: I seem to have fixed it. |
| 12:59.35 | zeq | I used availableGeometry() for the default screen rather then screenGeometry() |
| 13:05.46 | zeq | I pushed the code. |
| 13:06.55 | zeq | However, it's not quite perfect. Rotation works, but I think there's a problem with forcing all widgets to mListenForResizes... |
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| 14:10.09 | zeq | freemangordon: looks like I've got it. I noticed an inconsistency between the code and comments for resize events (see commit). Once fixed, it works without the force all hack. |
| 14:11.49 | zeq | freemangordon: just noticed there's still a slight bug, but I'm going to have to leave it to you get a chance, I'm out of time. |
| 14:12.59 | zeq | when it resizes to portriat, the height geometry is slightly off. I guess availableGeometry() isn't returning quite the full screen. :( |
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| 14:13.26 | zeq | it's soooo close |
| 14:13.54 | zeq | anybody else out there with some experience with qt-maemo rotation code? |
| 14:14.06 | zeq | patches welcome :) |
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| 14:17.25 | zeq | will be back later... |
| 14:17.34 | jon-kha | Estel_ have you received your raspberry pi? |
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| 14:54.39 | freemangordon | zeq: great job man, sorry i was afk, had to do my real job for a while :). When I am back home I will pull/check your commits. |
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| 15:00.51 | zeq1 | freemangordon, TODO: 1. fix vertical geometry in landscape. 2. remove incompatible key input code. 3. implement fullscreen exit button (I'll do this) |
| 15:00.51 | zeq1 | s/landscape/portrait/ |
| 15:00.51 | zeq1 | then it's probably about done...? |
| 15:03.33 | freemangordon | zeq1: ok |
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| 15:03.43 | KotCzarny | hi |
| 15:04.05 | KotCzarny | i need an iptables/tc magician |
| 15:08.47 | Raimu | I was wondering over the last-night Dealextreme tetronimo ice cube link that nobody owns the rights to Tetris so nobody could ever sue, but then I had to check. |
| 15:09.04 | DocScrutinizer06 | ShadowJK: what's up with the package? |
| 15:09.20 | Raimu | Pajitnov actually has the rights now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tetris_Company Good for him! |
| 15:09.57 | Raimu | Then again, I do think it's a bit pissy of them to ever sue over something that's more or less a de facto public domain thing now. |
| 15:18.04 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer; haven't checked |
| 15:19.03 | ShadowJK | sec |
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| 15:24.11 | ShadowJK | Seems like it arrived at the local grocery store / post office yesterday. I've probably got a notice of it waiting at home. I leave for work before mail arrives, and get off work after post is closed, so I guess tomorrow I can fetch it |
| 15:26.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | ShadowJK: good |
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| 15:28.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | ShadowJK: I had 2 roaming events so got only two of your posts if there've been more |
| 15:29.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | "sec" and "seems..." |
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| 15:33.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | ShadowJK: my friend who sent the package already got impatiant. I asked her to send package with insurence, but she picked letter with receipt acknowledge |
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| 15:46.28 | Pali | DocScrutinizer: hi, you wanted to backup maemo repositories, see: http://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror |
| 15:47.42 | ShadowJK | heh, why did she get impatient? |
| 15:47.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | PALI! :-)) long time no see! |
| 15:48.15 | Pali | freemangordon, problem with cbs widget can be fixed if we move widget library to package which has same name as package where is original nokia widget |
| 15:48.55 | Pali | then custom-operator-*** packages can use dpkg-divert to move original widget library |
| 15:49.44 | Pali | DocScrutinizer51, long time? only more exams in school... |
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| 15:51.42 | Pali | DocScrutinizer51, for apt-mirror on downloads.mameo.nokia.com you need old wget version in system (< 1.10.2) or patch apt-mirror to add wget argument --auth-no-challenge to force http authentification |
| 15:52.30 | Pali | bug is reported on launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-mirror/+bug/1015131 |
| 15:52.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | :nod: many thanks |
| 15:52.46 | Pali | with patch https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107965097/apt-mirror-https.patch |
| 15:56.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: all fine with your exams? |
| 15:56.39 | Pali | no :-( |
| 15:56.56 | Pali | continue in september |
| 15:57.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | damn! |
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| 16:16.09 | merlin1991 | Pali: I tried your ham with Tmaemo4 and got this: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/cssu/ham-errors.log |
| 16:16.41 | Pali | merlin1991, maybe missing apt gpg key? |
| 16:17.18 | Pali | I will look into source code |
| 16:17.19 | freemangordon | Pali: :( |
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| 16:19.22 | Pali | shit, in HAM is some code for APT domain trust level |
| 16:19.32 | Pali | anybody know what it is? |
| 16:19.48 | merlin1991 | no idea, but it seems you broke parts of that :D |
| 16:19.51 | SpeedEvil | angry birds? |
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| 16:22.02 | Pali | merlin1991, no. that error comes from apt-worker and now I looked into git history and in apt-worker was only cosmetic changes (like removed code for 5% free space) |
| 16:22.39 | merlin1991 | Pali: well when I revert to the cssu ham I don't get the errors and I get the update |
| 16:23.04 | Pali | merlin1991, I think that problem is with gpg keys |
| 16:23.14 | merlin1991 | how so? |
| 16:23.32 | merlin1991 | if I update the ham package to yours it fails, if I downgrade to cssu version it runs fine |
| 16:24.12 | Pali | version from repository.maemo.org cssu is gpg signed in apt cache and public key is imported into system by cssu-enabler |
| 16:24.45 | merlin1991 | that doesn't explain why one version likes it and the other doesn't |
| 16:25.22 | merlin1991 | the upgrade worked fine with the ham we currently have in cssu, only when I compile the current master and install it I get the errors |
| 16:25.23 | Pali | maybe your installed ham was not from repo with public gpg key in system |
| 16:25.32 | freemangordon | zeq1: why did you change screenGeometry to availableGeometry in MozQWidget::orientationChanged() |
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| 16:27.18 | Pali | merlin1991, ok, HAM has code which set for every domain if is signed. and if package is from unsigned domain it is ignored |
| 16:27.38 | Pali | merlin1991, should disable & remove that code? |
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| 16:29.41 | merlin1991 | Pali: no, I'd like it to work as it did |
| 16:29.44 | Pali | in HAM changelog is: Ignore packages from the wrong domain. (N85305) |
| 16:30.27 | Pali | I'd like to know what is "wrong domain" and how can be package marked at it |
| 16:31.04 | merlin1991 | Pali: all I can say, I started the cssu version of ham (1:2.2.72-5) let it update the repo cache and waited for it to show the cssu update |
| 16:31.17 | merlin1991 | then I installed a build of current master on gitorious and did the same |
| 16:31.32 | merlin1991 | with the new ham it didn't show the cssu update and had the errors in the log |
| 16:31.33 | Pali | N85305 is maybe bug number from nokia private bugzilla... anybody know more about it? |
| 16:31.44 | zeq | freemangordon: For some reason screenGeometry wasn't getting the new geometry. |
| 16:31.59 | Pali | merlin1991, when will be new CSSU update I will try to debug it |
| 16:32.22 | merlin1991 | should be in a week or two |
| 16:32.43 | zeq | I don't know if it's just a race, and that it takes longer to get availableGeometry? |
| 16:32.53 | zeq | maybe we just need some synchronization? |
| 16:33.35 | zeq | it could be availableGeometry isn't giving the full height for some unknown reason...? |
| 16:33.37 | Pali | The Application manager remembers for each package the 'domain' where it was installed from originally. Updates to a package that come fromanother domain are rejected. |
| 16:33.49 | Pali | Right now, the Application manager fails installations that have one or more of these domain violations. Instead, it should just ignore packages from a wrong domain. This will get rid of the most hard core error message of the AM. |
| 16:34.04 | Pali | do we really need it? ^^^ |
| 16:34.20 | zeq | I suspected a race since it *sometimes* worked, just occasionally. |
| 16:34.34 | merlin1991 | I don't know, but I'd like to know how this got broken by your 8 commits |
| 16:34.49 | freemangordon | zeq: how that could be, screen geometry should be correct all the times |
| 16:34.56 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 16:35.18 | zeq | key word there is *should* |
| 16:36.08 | freemangordon | :) |
| 16:36.21 | zeq | does the resize signal get sent before or after the resize? is it synchronised? |
| 16:36.43 | freemangordon | i've never seen it failing, I have several Qt project which rotate and never ever have the problem with it |
| 16:36.48 | zeq | s/syncronised/synchronous/ |
| 16:36.55 | freemangordon | yes, it is sent after rotation |
| 16:37.15 | zeq | I can't explain it |
| 16:37.48 | freemangordon | maybe availableGeometry is used in other places |
| 16:38.31 | Pali | merlin1991, I have no idea which commit broke that... I think that problem appeared that you installed HAM not from signed repo |
| 16:38.35 | zeq | I thought it should be the same. According to the docs avaialable geometry takes into account docks and the like |
| 16:38.50 | zeq | but we shouldn't have anything like that |
| 16:38.56 | Pali | but from local deb package |
| 16:39.01 | merlin1991 | Pali: I'll try to compile current cssu and install from local deb |
| 16:39.07 | freemangordon | zeq: but actually you are correct, it is availablegeometry that have to be used if we are not fulscreen |
| 16:39.09 | merlin1991 | let's see what that does |
| 16:39.14 | Pali | ok |
| 16:39.28 | Pali | do not forget to reboot device after HAM is updated |
| 16:39.43 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 16:39.49 | Pali | apt sometimes is not killed and run old version |
| 16:39.53 | Pali | also ham |
| 16:39.56 | Pali | *apt-worker |
| 16:40.05 | merlin1991 | Pali: yea, I know |
| 16:40.17 | freemangordon | :D |
| 16:40.32 | freemangordon | Pali: welcome back, sorry for your exams |
| 16:40.54 | zeq | hi Pali |
| 16:41.10 | Pali | I will continue in september... |
| 16:41.25 | zeq | freemangordon: still doesn't explain why the height is off when portrait |
| 16:41.26 | freemangordon | yeah, it happens from time to time |
| 16:41.44 | freemangordon | zeq: let me see it first |
| 16:41.53 | zeq | are you building it now? |
| 16:41.57 | freemangordon | yep |
| 16:42.20 | zeq | ok :) |
| 16:42.23 | freemangordon | btw int screen = -1; //Default screen is not needed, I will clean it up |
| 16:42.32 | freemangordon | (already did) |
| 16:42.59 | zeq | sure, I was just trying to be certain |
| 16:43.13 | freemangordon | it is "const QRectavailableGeometry ( int screen = -1 ) const" |
| 16:43.25 | freemangordon | well, i just noticed it |
| 16:43.29 | freemangordon | np at all |
| 16:44.06 | zeq | I wish the mozilla code actually tracked separate screens/displays properly |
| 16:44.17 | freemangordon | Pali: shit happens, but where all the fun being a student will go otherwise |
| 16:44.22 | zeq | not that it affects Maemo |
| 16:44.34 | freemangordon | zeq: it seems you've fixed an upstream bug |
| 16:44.38 | zeq | yup |
| 16:44.56 | freemangordon | I wonder if that would not render 90% of maemo6 code useless |
| 16:45.02 | zeq | LOL |
| 16:45.06 | zeq | possibly |
| 16:45.28 | freemangordon | yep, because it hacks rotation by using a transformation matrix |
| 16:45.48 | freemangordon | i.e. uses GL to rotate and resize AIUI |
| 16:46.06 | freemangordon | (or pixman) |
| 16:46.43 | freemangordon | I think that bug is the reason for the erratic behaviour under maemo6 merlin1991 reported |
| 16:48.56 | freemangordon | zeq: maybe we should make romaxa aware of that |
| 16:51.01 | zeq1 | freemangordon: It wouldn't hurt :) |
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| 16:54.22 | Pali | merlin1991, see: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/community-ssu-enabler/blobs/master/debian/postinst#line40 |
| 16:55.02 | Pali | cssu enabler turning off ignoring packages from wrong domain |
| 16:55.31 | Pali | merlin1991, I think that is should be disabled directly in ham code too |
| 16:55.31 | merlin1991 | Pali: I'll investigate :) |
| 16:55.40 | Pali | who is author of that script? |
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| 16:59.27 | freemangordon | zeq1: on the other hand: what I should add to Qt configure for neon support? |
| 16:59.53 | zeq1 | -mfpu=neon :) |
| 17:00.25 | zeq1 | mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo5/qmake.conf |
| 17:00.32 | zeq1 | I think from memory |
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| 17:02.02 | freemangordon | zeq1: hmm, you said Qt uses intrinstics |
| 17:03.03 | zeq1 | it does |
| 17:03.03 | zeq1 | that still requires -mfpu=neon |
| 17:03.11 | zeq1 | that just makes neon instructions available |
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| 17:04.19 | freemangordon | zeq1: BTW I think the best is to use screengeometry if we are fullscreen and availablegeometry if not. And I still don;t kile the idea for non-fullcreen fennec, non-compusite works for full-screen only |
| 17:04.30 | freemangordon | s/kile/like/ |
| 17:05.09 | freemangordon | what we have now with availablegeometry is non-fulscreen size :D |
| 17:05.24 | zeq1 | ok |
| 17:05.33 | freemangordon | what a noise on #mobile :D:D:D |
| 17:05.38 | freemangordon | ok as in? |
| 17:05.53 | zeq1 | Really I mean toggle chrome |
| 17:06.01 | zeq1 | rather than fullscreen |
| 17:06.12 | zeq1 | I should be more specific |
| 17:06.44 | zeq1 | url-bar toggle if you like |
| 17:06.45 | freemangordon | aah, you mean to make it appear like when started in portrait? |
| 17:07.31 | freemangordon | ok, then it is still fullscreen, ain't? |
| 17:07.47 | zeq1 | technically |
| 17:07.51 | freemangordon | ok |
| 17:07.54 | zeq1 | a |
| 17:08.09 | zeq1 | as far as the wm is concerned |
| 17:08.46 | zeq1 | it doesn't make sense to have the h-d top bar |
| 17:08.51 | freemangordon | yep |
| 17:08.59 | zeq1 | title-bar even |
| 17:09.16 | zeq1 | forgot what it was called for a moment :) |
| 17:09.56 | zeq1 | I agree about #mobile, it's worse than here for chatter ;) |
| 17:10.07 | freemangordon | BTW did you see what UI liiks like you you start it when the device is in portrait? |
| 17:10.26 | zeq1 | I'll check |
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| 17:11.41 | zeq1 | it seems the same...? |
| 17:11.50 | zeq1 | what am I missing? |
| 17:12.20 | freemangordon | do you have forcedrotation in? |
| 17:12.29 | freemangordon | *on |
| 17:12.37 | zeq1 | no. |
| 17:12.45 | freemangordon | enable it and you'll see |
| 17:12.45 | zeq1 | it appears in portrait |
| 17:12.51 | zeq1 | but it looks fine |
| 17:12.57 | freemangordon | i know. but starts in landscape |
| 17:12.59 | zeq1 | ok |
| 17:13.09 | zeq1 | not here..?? |
| 17:13.13 | freemangordon | while with FR on it starts in portrait |
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| 17:14.02 | freemangordon | zeq1:what? I think you overestimate my English skills :D |
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| 17:14.28 | zeq1 | I'm going to try FR |
| 17:15.14 | freemangordon | ok |
| 17:16.23 | zeq1 | that's weird |
| 17:16.24 | zeq1 | fine without forced rotation |
| 17:16.24 | zeq1 | honestly :D |
| 17:16.50 | zeq1 | is that a bug or not? |
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| 17:17.02 | freemangordon | which one? |
| 17:17.20 | zeq1 | the layout being broken with FR |
| 17:17.33 | freemangordon | it is not broken, just different |
| 17:17.55 | freemangordon | see what you have in upper-left corner? |
| 17:19.10 | zeq1 | interesting |
| 17:19.16 | freemangordon | yep |
| 17:19.35 | freemangordon | now we only need to find how to switch between layouts :D |
| 17:19.54 | zeq1 | tablet mode? |
| 17:20.17 | zeq1 | it's kinda ugly though |
| 17:20.23 | zeq1 | too cluttered |
| 17:21.32 | freemangordon | yeah, but you have a functionality like "print page" |
| 17:21.34 | zeq1 | I wonder if that's how it looks on my laptop... |
| 17:22.48 | freemangordon | NFC |
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| 17:40.51 | zeq | freemangordon: see comment: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Get_screen_coordinates_in_Qt |
| 17:42.39 | freemangordon | zeq: yeah :(, seems like a Qt bug |
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| 17:43.09 | freemangordon | I'll put a qDebug() to check what screenGeometry returns |
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| 17:43.19 | zeq | there's probably a patch |
| 17:43.35 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 17:43.37 | zeq | I'll have a look in the debian qt package |
| 17:43.49 | freemangordon | i'll ask goolge |
| 17:43.57 | zeq | or you could do that :0 |
| 17:43.59 | zeq | :) |
| 17:44.31 | Pali | merlin1991, now I see where can be problem: community-devel (&thumb too) does not have GPG signature in apt-repo. and if apt-worked was not patched or started with that flag which disable "domain checking" HAM refused to update packages from "trusting domain" |
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| 17:44.56 | merlin1991 | Pali: I had neither community-devel nor thumb installed |
| 17:45.06 | merlin1991 | only community-testing + self built deb |
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| 17:45.21 | Pali | self deb could be problem too |
| 17:45.38 | Pali | but I will create some patches for enabler package |
| 17:46.01 | Pali | and I want to add also thumb & devel to "trusting" |
| 17:46.12 | Pali | but first is needed to sign apt repository |
| 17:46.29 | Pali | merlin1991, it is problem if you sign thumb & devel repository? |
| 17:47.35 | merlin1991 | not that big of a problem |
| 17:49.58 | Pali | merlin1991, ok when you sign repo, upload somewhere public gpg key |
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| 17:51.31 | zeq | http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/qt4-x11/4:4.7.4-2 |
| 17:52.19 | freemangordon | zeq: we can just workarund that by either adding HD_COMP_MGR_TOP_MARGIN to AG or by hardcoding the size |
| 17:53.52 | zeq | shouldn't we fix the bug though if we can? |
| 17:54.12 | zeq | CSSU material..? |
| 17:54.31 | freemangordon | yep, it is in CSSU |
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| 17:54.41 | zeq | the fix is already in? |
| 17:54.54 | freemangordon | obviously no |
| 17:55.53 | zeq | what qt version are we? |
| 17:56.19 | freemangordon | anyway, let my build finnish, so I can check what screenGeometry retyrns |
| 17:56.22 | freemangordon | 4.7.4 |
| 17:56.30 | freemangordon | the one in CSSU |
| 17:56.40 | freemangordon | (with some thumb patches) |
| 17:58.48 | zeq | I can't see anything in that patch list |
| 17:59.45 | freemangordon | me too, it seems it is not a problem with Qt |
| 17:59.55 | zeq | ? |
| 18:00.13 | freemangordon | As I am sure screenGeometry returns correct data |
| 18:00.26 | freemangordon | i.e. 800x480 |
| 18:00.43 | freemangordon | and 480x800 for portrait |
| 18:01.28 | zeq | so what's going wrong, and why does availableGeometry "fix" it? |
| 18:02.10 | zeq | confused :S |
| 18:02.36 | zeq | maybe it's okay now I fixed that bug/ |
| 18:02.38 | zeq | ? |
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| 18:03.13 | freemangordon | zeq: it could be that 800x480 is too much, don't know |
| 18:03.29 | zeq | bounds? |
| 18:03.30 | freemangordon | i.e it might expect something like 799x479 |
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| 18:03.37 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:03.53 | zeq | they are separate to size |
| 18:04.07 | freemangordon | setSceneRect expects rectangle, not size |
| 18:04.14 | zeq | yeah |
| 18:04.22 | freemangordon | it could be that |
| 18:04.35 | zeq | window border? |
| 18:05.07 | zeq | going to look at the code |
| 18:05.41 | freemangordon | yeah, and we are passing 0,0,800,480 , which could be seen as 801x481 (size) |
| 18:05.55 | freemangordon | just a wild guess |
| 18:06.11 | RiD | a wild ratata appeared |
| 18:06.19 | zeq | ConstrainPosition |
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| 18:08.29 | ThreeM | Sc0rpius ? |
| 18:09.16 | Sc0rpius | yeah |
| 18:10.40 | zeq | freemangordon: maybe we need to substract mBounds from the rect? |
| 18:11.13 | ThreeM | ahh today i have luck :) |
| 18:11.31 | ThreeM | i dont want something from you, today i have something to offer :) |
| 18:12.54 | ThreeM | i have often problems with download yapaari from the webhosting serives you use to upload the newest version. what about to have fee webspace + ftp account for you to post direkt dl links for the community? |
| 18:13.01 | freemangordon | zeq: maybe we should move it to 0,0 |
| 18:13.24 | zeq | freemangordon: give it a go |
| 18:13.27 | freemangordon | look at maemo6 code, it does f (orientation == 0 || orientation == 180) { |
| 18:13.29 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.37 | freemangordon | etc... |
| 18:13.55 | zeq | I thought that was just because it was rotating..? but maybe you're right |
| 18:14.07 | freemangordon | I thought the same |
| 18:14.35 | freemangordon | ok, .deb is built, lemme report what screengeometry returns |
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| 18:15.23 | zeq | ok |
| 18:16.10 | ThreeM | i can offer that for you for free if you want. im not a developer and have not much time to do bugtesting and reporting but will do something for the community. |
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| 18:18.40 | freemangordon | zeq: portrait -> QRect(0,0 480x800) landscape -> QRect(0,0 800x480) |
| 18:19.49 | freemangordon | so that is ok |
| 18:19.56 | zeq | that's a relief I guess |
| 18:20.08 | zeq | otherwise it would be really weird |
| 18:20.11 | freemangordon | I am going to substract 1 from size |
| 18:20.12 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:20.35 | zeq | what about the mBounds values? |
| 18:20.46 | zeq | wouldn't 2 be better? |
| 18:20.57 | zeq | otherwise you'll have an odd number |
| 18:21.09 | zeq | 1 from each edge |
| 18:21.48 | zeq | freemangordon: setpos obviously isn't goinig to do anything ^^ |
| 18:21.54 | freemangordon | aah, yes, see GetScreenBounds |
| 18:22.01 | zeq | indeed |
| 18:22.31 | zeq | I was building with setpos, but I see no point |
| 18:22.36 | zeq | ^C |
| 18:23.47 | freemangordon | zeq: but look wgat OnResizeEvent is doing |
| 18:23.58 | freemangordon | mBounds.width = rect.width; |
| 18:23.59 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.36 | freemangordon | zeq: my point substraction one is the it maght be not width and height, but coordinates |
| 18:26.55 | freemangordon | *to substract one |
| 18:27.13 | freemangordon | then we are getting out of the screen by passing 800x480 |
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| 18:28.23 | zeq | freemangordon: I'm just saying by subtracting one it won't be centred |
| 18:28.44 | zeq | oh I see.... |
| 18:28.46 | zeq | nvm |
| 18:29.38 | freemangordon | ;) |
| 18:31.09 | freemangordon | zeq: going to try it |
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| 18:43.42 | freemangordon | zeq: so, you're telling me that by simply adding -mneon to mkspec when building Qt you incread fps by 50 for stellarium? |
| 18:45.11 | zeq | -mfpu=neon |
| 18:46.07 | freemangordon | yeah, whatever the switch is |
| 18:46.25 | zeq | Why does it surpise you? |
| 18:46.48 | zeq | the NEON intrinsics are used for matrix ops |
| 18:46.52 | freemangordon | I am not surprised, just want a confirmation |
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| 18:47.17 | zeq | anyway, yes, stellarium runs smoothly now |
| 18:47.19 | zeq | :) |
| 18:47.32 | zeq | it used to be "usable" |
| 18:47.47 | freemangordon | i'll try to build Qt in that way later, and will push it in thumb repo if it is ok |
| 18:48.10 | freemangordon | ok, .deb built, lets see |
| 18:48.17 | kerio | ok, i'm about to buy another n900 i think |
| 18:48.32 | kerio | how much would you guys pay for one with a broken (but still fixable) usb port? |
| 18:48.36 | zeq | freemangordon: fingers crossed |
| 18:48.41 | freemangordon | :) |
| 18:52.00 | freemangordon | zeq: no joy :( |
| 18:52.07 | zeq | :( |
| 18:52.16 | zeq | romaxa? |
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| 18:53.54 | freemangordon | zeq: he seems offline |
| 18:54.01 | kerio | actually, i'll rephrase my question |
| 18:54.17 | freemangordon | I wonder why AG works every time |
| 18:54.18 | kerio | would you buy a n900 with a broken (but still fixable) usb port? |
| 18:54.24 | kerio | Estel_: especially you |
| 18:55.27 | zeq | freemangordon: there must be something we're missing |
| 18:55.56 | freemangordon | zeq: going to try one more thing and I am done for now. |
| 18:55.57 | zeq | something to do with the bounds checking. |
| 18:56.07 | freemangordon | that is for sure |
| 18:56.42 | freemangordon | but if bounds are not set correctly why then AG works |
| 18:56.56 | zeq | luck |
| 18:57.31 | Sicelo | poor kerio :) |
| 18:57.35 | freemangordon | hmm, HD_COMP_MGR_TOP_MARGIN is 56px |
| 18:57.41 | Sicelo | i guess answer is generally a Yes here |
| 18:57.50 | zeq | ok |
| 18:58.05 | Sicelo | obviously, it's your money on the line .. so choose carefully |
| 18:58.19 | zeq | so subtract that from height with screenGeometry() and see if it still works? |
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| 18:59.07 | skope | anyone has idea where to get memory card holder to my n900? forums had link to farnell, but afaik they don't sell withtout company id |
| 18:59.10 | freemangordon | zeq: almost there, i am substracting 1 |
| 18:59.32 | zeq | freemangordon: I thought you did that already? |
| 19:00.13 | freemangordon | only for setSceneRect, but not for resize |
| 19:01.46 | freemangordon | hmm, maemo6 code gets the sy with scene()->views()[0]->rect() |
| 19:01.55 | freemangordon | *the size |
| 19:02.13 | zeq | so we could just be doing it wrong |
| 19:02.17 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:02.34 | freemangordon | maybe we need to swap width/height of the above view |
| 19:02.42 | freemangordon | i.e. rect |
| 19:03.39 | zeq | let me know what you are trying... I'm trying to figure it out |
| 19:03.49 | kerio | N900 get! |
| 19:03.52 | kerio | woo |
| 19:05.05 | freemangordon | zeq: could you try QRect screenGeometry = scene()->views()[0]->rect();swap_w_h(screenGeometry); |
| 19:05.14 | zeq | ok |
| 19:05.21 | freemangordon | instead of QRect screenGeometry = QApplication::desktop()->screenGeometry(); |
| 19:05.32 | freemangordon | leave the remaning code intact |
| 19:05.34 | kerio | 132€ + shipment, is that a good price? |
| 19:05.50 | kerio | bought on 2010-09-24, so it's actually still under warranty |
| 19:05.52 | chem|st | kerio: if it is with 12month warranty |
| 19:06.05 | kerio | chem|st: from a private |
| 19:06.18 | chem|st | my sister bought one 4 weeks ago for 140eur with 12month warranty |
| 19:06.30 | kerio | chem|st: and the EU has sane consumer protection, so it's two years from the manufacturer |
| 19:06.33 | zeq | ok |
| 19:06.40 | chem|st | those private should go by 90-110eurs |
| 19:06.47 | kerio | chem|st: meh |
| 19:06.55 | kerio | if i wanted to buy globally, maybe |
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| 19:07.00 | kerio | this is in italy, with one-day shipment |
| 19:07.24 | chem|st | kerio: shops can give them too |
| 19:08.24 | GeneralAntilles | So, when do we think the Project Glass hardware will be commodity? |
| 19:08.53 | zeq | 'swap_w_h' was not declared in this scope |
| 19:09.05 | zeq | to I need to add an include? |
| 19:09.24 | freemangordon | zeq: you need to write it :D |
| 19:09.57 | zeq | ah, ok |
| 19:10.08 | freemangordon | something like screenGeometry=QRect(0,0,screenGeometry.height().screenGeometry.width()); |
| 19:10.10 | Pali | FAIL, why is *fremantle* community-testing repo signed by *diablo* key?? |
| 19:10.28 | Pali | files: http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/dists/fremantle/Release http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/dists/fremantle/Release.gpg |
| 19:10.41 | Pali | gpg key: "maemo.org community repositories (diablo) <repositories@maemo.org>" |
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| 19:11.16 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991, see ^^^^ |
| 19:11.28 | freemangordon | Pali: ping X-Fade |
| 19:11.37 | Pali | X-Fade, look at this problem ^^^^^ |
| 19:12.46 | freemangordon | Pali: or better PM him and make a post on TMO thread for "infrastructure problems" |
| 19:13.01 | Pali | Now I'm going to write bug report |
| 19:13.03 | freemangordon | also I think the council should be aware of that |
| 19:13.06 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:13.10 | freemangordon | sounds sane |
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| 19:19.39 | chem|st | kerio: was just loking for a used one for me and it seems like 140eur is just fine... |
| 19:19.49 | kerio | :D |
| 19:19.52 | kerio | is happy |
| 19:19.53 | kerio | so |
| 19:20.02 | kerio | does anyone want a n900 with a broken usb port? |
| 19:20.29 | Pali | bug reported: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12632 |
| 19:20.30 | povbot_ | 04Bug 12632: Fremantle CSSU testing apt repository is signed by diablo gpg key |
| 19:20.46 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 19:21.57 | Atarii | kerio how much? |
| 19:22.05 | kerio | Atarii: you tell me |
| 19:22.05 | kerio | idk |
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| 19:27.13 | kerio | anyway, is ~usbfix also about preventing damage to the usb port? |
| 19:27.53 | chem|st | kerio: sure... |
| 19:28.01 | kerio | is there an easy way to do that? |
| 19:28.03 | chem|st | ehrm for the one with broken usb |
| 19:28.10 | kerio | no, i'm talking about the new one |
| 19:29.02 | chem|st | prevention? I have my device like 28month now and havent done any hardware mod |
| 19:30.52 | zeq | freemangordon: nearly built... |
| 19:30.55 | Woody14619 | kerio: One thing I suggest is you file down the "teeth" on the USB cables you use and on the power addapter. I did that day 1, and >30 months later not a single issue.. |
| 19:31.19 | DocScrutinizer06 | kerio: I bought a used one in working condition for 120€, in a 2nd hand phone shop nearby |
| 19:31.33 | freemangordon | zeq: no join again and i have to stop for now. report if that fixes the issue. btw romaxa appeared on #mobile |
| 19:31.47 | DocScrutinizer06 | ooh, and I've seen a N810 today, for "just" 190EUR ;-P |
| 19:31.56 | zeq | did you ask romaxa? |
| 19:31.58 | freemangordon | and I repost my post |
| 19:32.02 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:32.08 | freemangordon | still no answer |
| 19:32.11 | zeq | what about our current issue? |
| 19:32.20 | freemangordon | didn't ask him |
| 19:32.23 | zeq | ok |
| 19:32.27 | skope | quess /n |
| 19:32.30 | skope | meh |
| 19:32.48 | freemangordon | zeq: bbl |
| 19:33.06 | chem|st | kerio: sry there was a hardware mod... I fixed the backpanel as its holding nose broke^^ |
| 19:33.07 | zeq | ok, see you later freemangordon |
| 19:38.45 | chem|st | can we have the mailinglist reject html mail some way? |
| 19:42.59 | zeq | freemangordon: I thought that would work... but no |
| 19:43.02 | zeq | alsa |
| 19:43.09 | zeq | s/alsa/alas/ |
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| 20:11.34 | zeq | I tried using availableGeometry + 56 for height and it works :S |
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| 20:35.33 | zeq | it worked once, then didn't... I'm going to try one more thing, then I'm going to bed, I'm getting really tired :( |
| 20:38.38 | kerio | so... nobody is interested in my awesome broken n900? :( |
| 20:41.32 | rzr | how broken |
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| 20:44.50 | Estel_ | jon-kha, unfortunately, not yet |
| 20:45.06 | Estel_ | Farnell pissed me off totally, those idiots charged 20 pounds for shipping, and don't even have tracking id! |
| 20:45.24 | Estel_ | when i protested, they said that their "point 7" says that they can ship with anything they like |
| 20:45.34 | Estel_ | of course its bullshit, and not legal in EU, and Poland especialluy |
| 20:46.03 | Estel_ | anyway, if it's not going to arrive in 3 weeks, i;ll create them such flamestorm, that even post-Ca mess will be like flowers scent with love in the air |
| 20:46.19 | Estel_ | zeq, I don'tknow who you are, but I like You :D |
| 20:46.45 | Estel_ | it's strange, I don't remember You from past months, yet, from few weeks, You contribute very much. It's refreshing to see such whirlwind of development :) |
| 20:46.53 | Estel_ | kerio, sure, I can buy broken N900 - for 30 dollars :P |
| 20:47.25 | Estel_ | repairing broken USb port is such PITA, that, despite my lvoe for device, i even stopped doing it for others, cause price for this pain would be like new N900 |
| 20:47.33 | Estel_ | it's probably due to lack of absolutely proper tools |
| 20:47.49 | Estel_ | sure, if I would had Infra-red soldering station, it would be pleasure |
| 20:47.58 | Estel_ | doing it by hand is absolute pita |
| 20:48.15 | Estel_ | I switched to reinforce'ing ports only |
| 20:48.17 | zeq | Estel_: I'm energies were focused elsewhere. I've had an N900 since the early days, and always meant to set up the SDK and contribute, but I was always busy doing something else. |
| 20:48.21 | Estel_ | *working*ones |
| 20:48.49 | Estel_ | zeq, :) I though that I saw your nick, but wasn't aware. Well, it's nice to have You on board |
| 20:49.38 | zeq | Estel_: I've been keeping an eye on #maemo a while ;) |
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| 20:50.55 | zeq | thanks for the welcome Estel_ |
| 20:50.59 | zeq | :) |
| 20:51.00 | Estel_ | freemangordon, I have strange issues re Hd video recoridng on my CSSU-T (not thumb yetr) device |
| 20:51.09 | Estel_ | everytime i start recording, record something, and end... |
| 20:51.18 | Estel_ | camera-ui2 hangs on same moment when i stop recording |
| 20:51.22 | Estel_ | not dies, jsut hangs |
| 20:51.43 | Estel_ | i can go to taskbar, do other things, but camera-ui is hanged, with still image of situation, where i pressed "stop" button |
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| 20:52.16 | Estel_ | I've waited for up to 15 mintues for 1 minute long movie, tried few times, i'm sure it's really hanged. everytime need to kill it from within maemo, and, of course, movies recorder are damaged |
| 20:52.21 | Estel_ | (not finalized) |
| 20:52.30 | Estel_ | any way I could provide some debug info? |
| 20:52.46 | Estel_ | sp-rich-core seems not related, as it doesn't die (on it's own) |
| 20:54.32 | DocScrutinizer06 | check syslog |
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| 20:54.51 | Estel_ | i got syslogd installed, where it saves logs? |
| 20:57.06 | jon-kha | Estel_ I got mine today, but it does not work anymore :/ I left it to my desk for few hours with power on and when I returned I noticed that there was something wrong with my terminal and tried to reboot it without success, i had to remove power plug and now it does not boot, it only shows red light. Tested it with two SD cards |
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| 20:57.39 | Estel_ | jon-kha, huh... no idea, is there any way to "flash" it?;) |
| 20:57.47 | DocScrutinizer06 | /var/log/syslog |
| 20:57.56 | Estel_ | oh. thanks. |
| 20:58.16 | Estel_ | jon-kha, tried searching raspberry pi forums? |
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| 20:58.25 | louisdk | Hi :) |
| 20:58.58 | DocScrutinizer06 | jon-kha: sounds like your battery is broken |
| 20:59.29 | zeq | freemangordon: My one more thing turned into two. It occurred to me, we aren't really running fullscreen, but maximized... |
| 20:59.30 | DocScrutinizer06 | ooh, you're not talking about N900 |
| 20:59.56 | jon-kha | I followed elinux's troubleshooting guide without success. Nobody in #raspberrypi was not able to help, they also thought that it is hardware problem. |
| 21:00.04 | DocScrutinizer06 | ###@!!¼³¹¶ð«@ł |
| 21:00.40 | Estel_ | jon-kha, unfortunately, I have no clue - I haven't touched this device yet |
| 21:01.06 | Estel_ | BTw, farnell send it to me some times ago and turned out to be shit company, but today, I got info about element14 sending it to me via DHL |
| 21:01.09 | jacekowski | jon-kha: well, it looks like it's dead |
| 21:01.11 | Estel_ | WTF? i'm going to get 2 at the end? |
| 21:01.19 | jacekowski | jon-kha: you should get at least somethig on the termianl |
| 21:01.26 | jacekowski | jon-kha: even without the sd card |
| 21:01.59 | freemangordon | zeq: what? |
| 21:02.22 | freemangordon | I think there was showFulscreen() |
| 21:03.30 | zeq | was there? I might have missed it... just tried putting it in where we set up the top level widget |
| 21:03.31 | jon-kha | jacekowski it does not show anything, so i guess also that it's dead |
| 21:04.02 | jacekowski | well, it's not a software problem |
| 21:04.09 | jacekowski | double check if your supply is ok |
| 21:04.19 | jacekowski | and if it is, well, it's proper fucked |
| 21:04.25 | freemangordon | zeq: И тхинк со, лемме греп |
| 21:04.28 | freemangordon | sorry |
| 21:04.34 | jon-kha | There was 4,92v between tp1 and tp2 |
| 21:04.38 | freemangordon | I think so, lemme grep |
| 21:04.42 | jon-kha | so it should be ok |
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| 21:06.23 | Estel_ | suuuuuure. Yesterday, i tried for hour all scenarios, and camera-ui2 hanged everytime I've finished recoridng video. Now, where I want to catch syslog output, it "just works" |
| 21:06.28 | Estel_ | wtfd? |
| 21:07.15 | zeq | it's just that it occurred to me that we should be available minus the title-bar when fullscreen |
| 21:07.34 | freemangordon | you meen fennec title bar? |
| 21:07.44 | zeq | I mean HILDON title-bar |
| 21:07.44 | Estel_ | freemangordon, I thing I've found why nicolaicam hangs and when |
| 21:07.50 | freemangordon | or hildon one |
| 21:07.56 | freemangordon | Estel_: why? |
| 21:07.58 | Estel_ | it show this behavior only, when I've pasued recording at least once |
| 21:08.06 | Estel_ | then, it hangs when i end recording |
| 21:08.14 | freemangordon | paused? |
| 21:08.23 | Estel_ | yea, recording have option to pause, as per nicolai version |
| 21:08.53 | Estel_ | great thing, cosnidering scarce of video editing tools for N900 itself |
| 21:09.11 | freemangordon | Estel_: you'd better file a bug |
| 21:09.27 | SpeedEvil | Estel_: mencoder, dd, what more could you want? |
| 21:09.35 | Estel_ | freemangordon, the thing is that it hangs only when doing HD recording |
| 21:09.54 | Estel_ | on "Stock" vidoe resolutions, it finish normally |
| 21:10.06 | freemangordon | so? what stops you from filing a bug? |
| 21:10.09 | Estel_ | even when paused and resumed during recording |
| 21:10.13 | Estel_ | erm, where? |
| 21:10.25 | Estel_ | I though that Hd was Your addition, so it doesn't fill for CSSU. Or does? |
| 21:10.35 | freemangordon | it does |
| 21:11.04 | Estel_ | ok, sure thing. I'll fill it |
| 21:11.10 | Estel_ | thanks for investigating |
| 21:11.11 | freemangordon | if it is distributed with CSSU, then it is CSSU bug |
| 21:11.24 | Estel_ | one last question, cause I'm lost |
| 21:11.46 | Estel_ | ages ago, you've mentione,d in HD recording thread, that harm version of something - dsp driver or something like that - is worse than last one used |
| 21:12.04 | freemangordon | zeq: that is this HD_COMP_MGR_TOP_MARGIN I was talking for |
| 21:12.13 | Estel_ | then, I lost orientation - are we using fixed version, or fixes is in cssu-thumb, or most recent one is first post of hd recording thread? |
| 21:12.20 | freemangordon | Estel_: sorry gtg |
| 21:12.24 | Estel_ | np. |
| 21:12.29 | freemangordon | bb |
| 21:13.11 | zeq | freemangordon: isn't that the same thing? |
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| 21:59.41 | GeneralAntilles | I really hate iOS's new(ish) group chat shit |
| 21:59.43 | GeneralAntilles | Through MMS. |
| 22:00.03 | GeneralAntilles | You have to try to thread each message together manually. |
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