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| 00:02.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | my 2 cent: wget mallocs new RAM for each chunk of data downloaded, and tries to write in background. It however seems to never reuse the allocated RAM |
| 00:02.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and never flushes |
| 00:02.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | so if your download is faster than your disk write, you run into trouble |
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| 00:04.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you force flushing every now and then, by invoking a new instance of wget for the next file |
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| 00:06.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: does wget diagnostic output on terminal? |
| 00:06.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | if yes, a ^S might help |
| 00:08.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you throttle your NIC somehow |
| 00:09.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you refactor the job, so each file download has to finish writing to disk before next one gets started - I.E. invoke a new instance of wget for each file |
| 00:10.07 | chem|st | nthread to 2 and it writes with 8MB/s |
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| 00:10.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? |
| 00:10.39 | chem|st | ok 5-8MB/s |
| 00:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | nthread? |
| 00:11.06 | chem|st | the apt-mirror list has a nthreads of 20 |
| 00:11.47 | chem|st | 68MB ram |
| 00:12.13 | chem|st | wit 2 instead of 20 |
| 00:12.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | you lost me |
| 00:12.57 | chem|st | mirror.list has a value of 20 threads I reduced it to 2 |
| 00:13.27 | chem|st | it will take ages... but it wont kill the machine |
| 00:13.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah there's nthreads |
| 00:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever that does |
| 00:14.55 | chem|st | it distributes the indexing into threads, seems like stacking |
| 00:15.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 00:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc what's indexing here |
| 00:16.03 | chem|st | fileindex |
| 00:16.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I thought the problem is with wget |
| 00:16.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | eating all the RAM |
| 00:16.39 | chem|st | t is what apt-mirror is doing with it |
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| 00:18.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't you say wget using 50%...100% of RAM, and wget PID never changes? |
| 00:18.24 | chem|st | yes |
| 00:18.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | then that's your problem |
| 00:18.46 | chem|st | well that too |
| 00:19.32 | chem|st | I need to get some rest |
| 00:19.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's one (or 3) wget instances running from a pipe with list of files to download, and it stuffs all the download to malloc'd RAM |
| 00:20.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | and hands that RAM to write() |
| 00:21.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | now your aggressive swappiness or whatever kicks in and maybe swaps out wget to make space for disk buffers/cache |
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| 00:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | which isn't exactly helping for thruput to HDD of the downloaded stuff in wget's memory |
| 00:22.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | the job shouldn't run one wget instance form a command pipe but rather invoke a new wget instance for each file |
| 00:23.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | since then wget would quit only after flushing all buffers to write to disk, and thus the download speed gets throttled naturally |
| 00:24.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | to match the max HDD write speed |
| 00:24.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | this job is optimized for NIC thruput, assuming there can't ever be a bottleneck on the write-to-storage side |
| 00:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | when your download speed is higher than your write speed on HDD, it will fail |
| 00:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | which isn't exactly helping for thruput to HDD of the downloaded stuff in wget's memoryasically a flaw in wget itself |
| 00:26.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops |
| 00:26.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically a flaw in wegt itself |
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| 05:45.27 | LaoLang_cool | How to access the file system of PC from n900? Can it be accessed by usb? |
| 05:46.33 | dm8tbr | use g_usb (IIRC that's SDK mode) and some network file access protocol |
| 05:46.45 | dm8tbr | e.g. samba or nfs or ftp or ... |
| 05:48.15 | freemangordon | dm8tbr: hmm, g_ether? |
| 05:48.28 | dm8tbr | yeah, that one, still waking up |
| 05:48.34 | freemangordon | :) |
| 05:50.35 | LaoLang_cool | oh, looks like too complicated to me, give up, thank you... |
| 05:51.25 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: just install Qt mobile hotspot and you're ready to go |
| 05:55.20 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, I don't understand, if I install Qt mobile hotspot, then I can access my windows fat32 file system in N900? |
| 05:58.00 | freemangordon | LaoLang_cool: what Qt mobile hotspot will give you is an easy way to establish USB connection between your n900 and your windows PC. Once established you can use your fravourite way to browse your PC from your n900. samba for example |
| 06:01.11 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, oh, thank you very much. Still complicated to me, I have no knowledge about samba, I thought I can access pc file system by something like mount -t vfat /dev/sd1 /mnt/fat after the usb got connected between pc and n900... |
| 06:02.34 | freemangordon | no way |
| 06:06.33 | LaoLang_cool | freemangordon, thanks, will learn it when I have time :) |
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| 06:40.21 | fruct | Hello all! Who can get help about app manager on n900? |
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| 06:41.12 | _PanzerSajt | fruct, what is your problem? |
| 06:41.25 | freemangordon | ~ask |
| 06:41.25 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
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| 06:44.45 | _PanzerSajt | freemangordon, hy :) |
| 06:45.20 | fruct | in first launch it load list applications, after that say "noting repositoryes" |
| 06:52.56 | fruct | if open repo list, I got same |
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| 07:05.02 | Sc0rpius | well, too bad we don't speak romanian |
| 07:05.13 | Sc0rpius | otherwise we could help you |
| 07:06.01 | Sc0rpius | because I don't understand a thing you're saying. |
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| 07:08.45 | fruct | my basic language is russian |
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| 07:15.45 | brik | if you put just a tiny bit of effort in, that makes perfect sense |
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| 07:17.40 | Sc0rpius | then please translate |
| 07:18.46 | brik | he's saying he gets the message "no repositories" when launching the app manager |
| 07:19.03 | brik | fruct: can you add a new repository? |
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| 07:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras |
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| 07:26.44 | iluminator105 | n900 player does not play files in order although all the files have number in front of it |
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| 07:27.52 | iluminator105 | why? |
| 07:29.14 | iluminator105 | player does not sort correctly |
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| 07:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | iluminator105: seems it works when you add whole album, it doesn't work when you add from "songs" |
| 07:32.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you add one song at a time |
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| 07:33.47 | iluminator105 | hmm...its a whole folder full of mp3 in order but....but with repeating number like 01 01 01 01 |
| 07:35.32 | iluminator105 | thats strange maybe let me if windows can order it .... |
| 07:35.41 | iluminator105 | maybe there is no order, |
| 07:35.59 | iluminator105 | bbl thanks DocScrutinizer |
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| 09:51.00 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 10:15.00 | chem|st | Jaffa: morning |
| 10:17.21 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: ping |
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| 10:22.42 | MohammadAG | Just read the maemo.org being orphaned thread |
| 10:22.52 | Jaffa | Yeah |
| 10:23.04 | MohammadAG | From a user's point of view, why stick to Maemo/MeeGo |
| 10:23.07 | Jaffa | I just saw that, now going to be on MWKN's front-page |
| 10:23.13 | MohammadAG | A user, not a hacker |
| 10:23.20 | Jaffa | Indeed |
| 10:23.27 | merlin1991 | yes 100% doomsday talk |
| 10:23.38 | Jaffa | The next platform I think I'm going to be the harbinger of death for is BB10 |
| 10:23.38 | MohammadAG | Jaffa: You forgot MT Toggles in the last mwkn ;p |
| 10:23.58 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: I did. Latest thread URL? |
| 10:23.59 | MohammadAG | While you're at there's that iOS 6 like plugin too :P |
| 10:24.56 | MohammadAG | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84725 and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84912 |
| 10:25.32 | MohammadAG | Jaffa: Same, wanted to attend a jam event but it's too expensive |
| 10:26.04 | MohammadAG | $900 for a round trip to Dubai which is the closest event |
| 10:26.23 | merlin1991 | jam event what for? |
| 10:26.35 | merlin1991 | ah wait |
| 10:26.37 | MohammadAG | 300 to Berlin but I need a visa which takes time, and the tickets are sold out |
| 10:26.38 | merlin1991 | read |
| 10:26.41 | MohammadAG | BBJam |
| 10:27.55 | MohammadAG | In the meantime, I'll be wiping a lot of data off my HDD to make space for OS X |
| 10:29.00 | MohammadAG | Wonder if scratch box works on os x |
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| 10:29.19 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: No, it doesn't. Can run in a nice little VM, tho' |
| 10:29.40 | MohammadAG | Jaffa: Hmm, I need a 1TB drive |
| 10:30.01 | MohammadAG | Wonder how much of a hassle moving recovery partitions is |
| 10:30.26 | MohammadAG | Fucking tethered jailbreak |
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| 10:33.57 | merlin1991 | hm, who's that: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223545&postcount=71 ? |
| 10:34.38 | MohammadAG | Argh I have no browser |
| 10:34.58 | MohammadAG | merlin1991: Username? |
| 10:35.09 | Jaffa | merlin1991: Kate Alhoha |
| 10:35.17 | merlin1991 | Jaffa: rings no bell |
| 10:35.47 | Jaffa | merlin1991: Big important developer in Maemo |
| 10:35.55 | merlin1991 | sounds legit :) |
| 10:36.05 | Jaffa | Alhola, sorry - http://maemo.org/profile/view/kate/ |
| 10:37.31 | Jaffa | merlin1991: She's been working on Maemo since the very beginning: http://newstyle.maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re--maemo-developers-porting_applications_for_maemo-001/?org_openpsa_qbpager_net_nemein_discussion_posts_page=1 is from 2005, for example |
| 10:39.31 | SpeedEvil | tries to remember 2005. |
| 10:39.32 | X-Fade | Kate is working for Developer Nokia, maemo.org budgets got moved there when MeeGo Devices etc stopped to exist. |
| 10:39.55 | SpeedEvil | thinks of stone pillars with chimps in the background. |
| 10:39.56 | merlin1991 | hey there X-Fade :) |
| 10:40.13 | jacekowski | X-Fade: there was a question asked yesterday |
| 10:40.18 | jacekowski | X-Fade: maemo wiki db dumps |
| 10:41.33 | X-Fade | jacekowski: Yes? |
| 10:42.33 | merlin1991 | X-Fade: the question was if / how we can obtain them in case of no more maemo.org |
| 10:43.26 | X-Fade | I am not sure if Special:Export works? |
| 10:45.43 | merlin1991 | X-Fade: it does one page at a time |
| 10:45.51 | merlin1991 | not exactly convenient to mirror the whole thing |
| 10:46.13 | merlin1991 | wait I stand corrected, it also takes a list of pages |
| 10:46.19 | merlin1991 | still not exactly convenient :) |
| 10:47.19 | X-Fade | merlin1991: Well it gives you a way to export things now. |
| 10:47.47 | X-Fade | I'm trying to get a more clear picture as to what is going to happen with the server infra etc. |
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| 10:48.06 | X-Fade | Of course I can take backups of the databases. |
| 10:48.45 | X-Fade | But I'd rather not offer for public download a database with all kinds of personal info. |
| 10:49.23 | merlin1991 | X-Fade: I suppose you could do a dump of pages only? |
| 10:49.39 | X-Fade | So if there will be an alternative site setup, moving that database over is not a problem. But I'd like to be careful with private data. |
| 10:49.50 | merlin1991 | excluding all the user and other private data? |
| 10:52.46 | jacekowski | X-Fade: any chance of getting them |
| 10:52.56 | jacekowski | X-Fade: for mirrors and stuff |
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| 12:54.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: we had exactly same request to backup wiki on openmoko recently. User lindi did it with some script and w/o help from sysadmin on the wiki server |
| 12:55.23 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: sure, but I'd prefer the sysadmin to help, saves the machine traffic and myself time |
| 12:55.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: checking #openmoko-cdevel chanlog might yield some hits |
| 12:55.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | sure thing |
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| 15:56.27 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, pong? |
| 15:57.26 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Website's back, so was wondering if you could help fill in the last few entries |
| 15:57.33 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, on it. |
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| 15:58.33 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Ta |
| 15:58.45 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: I've been doing a few while at work |
| 15:58.57 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: n fact, I think only one's left |
| 15:59.57 | psychologe | Jaffa, hello |
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| 16:01.15 | Jaffa | psychologe: o/ |
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| 16:08.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | idly wonders if the official character defines the community (and thus it will implode), or if the community generates some sense of official thing in its own (in which case it will survive Nokia teardown) |
| 16:09.41 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, should be proofed and ready to go. |
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| 16:09.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | Lo gan |
| 16:10.05 | GeneralAntilles | Hey, DocScrutinizer51. |
| 16:10.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | lo Jaffa |
| 16:10.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | cig break |
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| 16:13.33 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Ta |
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| 16:15.18 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Published. Second article on the front page is a little light, but it's breaking news ;-) |
| 16:17.33 | zeq | DocScrutinizer: tbh nokia's behaviour has got me more involved with the community, hopefully I'm not boarding a sinking ship! |
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| 16:22.15 | _freemangordon | zeq: did you succeed with setting up -thumb target in SB? |
| 16:22.34 | zeq | yes I did :) |
| 16:22.41 | freemangordon | great |
| 16:23.02 | zeq | trying to build fennec 14 beta7 now |
| 16:23.11 | freemangordon | ... and when you're going to writh the article in wiki :P |
| 16:23.19 | freemangordon | *write |
| 16:23.55 | zeq | It won't be this evening, but I'll get it a go :) |
| 16:24.04 | zeq | s/get/give |
| 16:24.08 | freemangordon | great, thenks |
| 16:24.18 | freemangordon | *thanks |
| 16:25.24 | zeq | freemangordon: I'm not sure whether to enable meegotouch in the fennec build, I'm guessing not |
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| 16:25.47 | zeq | I'm building the qt version |
| 16:26.23 | freemangordon | zeq: don't, noone knows how it will work on n900. And I am not sure libs are in place |
| 16:26.26 | zeq | it's been heavily optimized compared to the gtk version |
| 16:26.46 | zeq | that's what I thought |
| 16:27.07 | freemangordon | pure Qt will be ok AIUI |
| 16:28.24 | zeq | does the meego touch framework work at all on fremantle? |
| 16:28.30 | freemangordon | NFC |
| 16:28.53 | freemangordon | but even if it works, who cares, hildon is ok |
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| 17:05.45 | zeq | freemangordon: It's built okay with "toolchain-default" for "--with-thumb", "--with-thumb-interwork", "--with-fpu". With thumb*=yes, it currently fails at elf-hack. I could use --disable-elf-hack, or try toggling LDFLAGS... |
| 17:06.18 | zeq | What is the toolchain-default fpu option? |
| 17:06.46 | zeq | should I try =neon? |
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| 17:12.27 | zeq | freemangordon: one more question, should the thumb package be named/versioned differently? |
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| 17:48.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | zeq: there are ships that sink, and others that get converted to houseboats or museums when they don't sail the 7 seas anymore |
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| 17:48.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm hoping for the pretty comfortable houseboat variant |
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| 17:54.14 | freemangordon | zeq: -neon would not work without -funsafe-math (or whetever was the option to turn vectoriser on) |
| 17:54.38 | freemangordon | AFAIK |
| 17:55.15 | freemangordon | zeq: default FPU option is vfp |
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| 17:55.35 | freemangordon | -softfp |
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| 18:00.15 | freemangordon | zeq: you should not enable "--with-thumb-interwork", it is not needed and produces slower and larger code |
| 18:00.25 | freemangordon | -mthumb is all you need |
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| 18:19.55 | zeq | freemangordon: mozilla/fennec has builtin support for NEON if enabled via "--with-fpu=neon" |
| 18:20.10 | freemangordon | aah, great, enable it then :D |
| 18:20.18 | zeq | starting again without interwork |
| 18:20.32 | freemangordon | did you build it succesfully? |
| 18:20.54 | zeq | also built-in thumb support |
| 18:21.14 | zeq | it had nearly finished :) |
| 18:21.21 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 18:22.25 | zeq | what about the package name/version? |
| 18:22.48 | freemangordon | NFC, but it should reflect the harm version |
| 18:24.09 | zeq | I'm just using the upstream version, just wondered if the thumb version should somehow be identified as such |
| 18:24.20 | freemangordon | aaah, yeah |
| 18:24.45 | freemangordon | add -thumb0 athe the end of the package name in changelog |
| 18:25.05 | zeq | right, okay ... |
| 18:25.16 | freemangordon | and add Depends: ..., kernel-feature-errata-430973-workaround in control for the binary .deb |
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| 18:25.39 | freemangordon | zeq: ^^^ |
| 18:25.57 | zeq | ok |
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| 18:27.05 | zeq | "fennec-thumb0", or after the version? |
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| 18:27.48 | freemangordon | gimme the whole name ib the changelog |
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| 18:28.14 | freemangordon | zeq:^^^ |
| 18:28.19 | freemangordon | *in |
| 18:28.36 | zeq | fennec (14.0b7) unstable; urgency=low |
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| 18:29.18 | freemangordon | fennec (14.0b7+0m5-thumb0) unstable; urgency=low |
| 18:29.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991: agree? ^^^ |
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| 18:30.43 | freemangordon | asks merlin1991 as he is a mighty maintainer after all, not an ordinary monkey like freemangordon is :P |
| 18:31.09 | merlin1991 | why the 0m5, that's just nokias fancy way of saying it's a maemo package :D |
| 18:31.26 | freemangordon | because it is for maemo5 |
| 18:31.43 | freemangordon | but AFAIK we're not allowed to use it, so m5 |
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| 18:32.11 | merlin1991 | well in that case it should be someversion-maemx-thumbx |
| 18:32.22 | merlin1991 | s/maemx/maemox/ |
| 18:32.43 | freemangordon | merlin1991: we're not allowed to use maemo in package names, check on the wiki |
| 18:33.02 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: not package name, verison number |
| 18:33.10 | freemangordon | it is the same |
| 18:33.16 | merlin1991 | oh nope |
| 18:33.30 | freemangordon | we're no allowed to use maemo in version string |
| 18:33.33 | merlin1991 | there's a huge difference |
| 18:33.35 | freemangordon | *not |
| 18:33.39 | merlin1991 | and we are even supposed to |
| 18:33.42 | merlin1991 | lemem find the entry |
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| 18:34.47 | merlin1991 | see http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging/Guidelines#The_version_of_a_package |
| 18:34.49 | freemangordon | merlin1991: seems you're correct |
| 18:35.05 | zeq | conclusion? |
| 18:35.06 | merlin1991 | and a few lines above is the no to maemo in the package name :) |
| 18:35.33 | merlin1991 | someversion-maemoR-thumbR where R stands for an int revision |
| 18:35.39 | freemangordon | fennec (14.0b7maemo0-thumb0) unstable; urgency=low |
| 18:35.42 | merlin1991 | (starting with 0) |
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| 18:36.12 | freemangordon | merlin1991: according to wiki there should be no "-" before maemo |
| 18:36.14 | mmbushido | join #python |
| 18:36.41 | zeq | thanks |
| 18:37.26 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: that - is just for style |
| 18:37.29 | merlin1991 | makes no difference |
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| 18:37.33 | freemangordon | zeq: BTW is fenec buildable with the default SB toolchain? |
| 18:37.52 | freemangordon | zeq: you'd better listen to merlin1991 when it comes to packaging :D |
| 18:37.52 | merlin1991 | though you are right, according to wiki it should be someversionmaemoR-thumbR |
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| 18:38.47 | freemangordon | merlin1991: any news from MohammadAG re new update that should happen ASAP |
| 18:38.49 | zeq | start again? :) |
| 18:39.28 | zeq | it's buildable, but slow |
| 18:39.34 | freemangordon | zeq: why not, after all your CPU will sit idling otherwise :P |
| 18:39.53 | zeq | I mean with the default toolchain |
| 18:40.22 | zeq | NEON should help a lot |
| 18:40.34 | freemangordon | i mean why you want to build it with gcc 4.6.2, only for thumb? |
| 18:40.58 | freemangordon | or it is not buildable with 4.2.1 |
| 18:40.59 | zeq | ^ |
| 18:41.10 | freemangordon | but gcc 4.2.1 supports neon |
| 18:41.40 | freemangordon | (it supports thumb too, but that's another story) |
| 18:42.15 | zeq | I'm hoping/expecting the JIT to work a lot better with a recent toolchain |
| 18:43.10 | zeq | with the old toolchain, it's been pretty unusable since v8 |
| 18:43.10 | zeq | we'll see |
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| 18:43.18 | freemangordon | hmm, if they don't support ThumbEE, there should not be much of a difference |
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| 18:43.52 | zeq | I'm not sure if it doesn't. I haven't checked. |
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| 18:44.30 | zeq | But these complication options put it very similar to the Android build |
| 18:45.07 | freemangordon | zeq ThumbEE is a mistery, I suspect it is implemented |
| 18:45.08 | zeq | which AFAIK works well |
| 18:45.13 | freemangordon | even in android |
| 18:45.35 | freemangordon | *it is NOT |
| 18:45.40 | zeq | s/complication/compilation |
| 18:45.59 | freemangordon | nah, the word fitted perfectly well :D |
| 18:46.09 | zeq | :) |
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| 18:46.25 | Tofe | Hi ! |
| 18:48.33 | freemangordon | zeq: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223826&postcount=166 |
| 18:48.34 | freemangordon | :P |
| 18:48.59 | freemangordon | BTW you can use http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223814&postcount=164 as a sceleton |
| 18:49.08 | freemangordon | *skeleton |
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| 18:53.01 | zeq | bookmarked. |
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| 19:31.51 | piggz_ | does anyone know how to read the security code from a locked N9? or how to reset it without wiping? |
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| 19:43.11 | zeq | merlin1991: the gcc-4.6 compiler has this bug: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2010-11/msg02245.html |
| 19:44.37 | freemangordon | zeq: use -fno-strict-volatile-bitfields |
| 19:45.15 | zeq | already added it to CFLAGS |
| 19:45.54 | freemangordon | :) |
| 19:47.27 | zeq | I put CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} ..." in mozconfig. Is there a preferred form and/or place to put extra CFLAGS? |
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| 20:08.00 | FIQ | hm |
| 20:08.29 | FIQ | is the maximun speed that N900 can achieve down 384Kbit/s in 3G? |
| 20:08.32 | freemangordon | zeq: there should be CFLAGS in debian/rules |
| 20:09.52 | SpeedEvil | FIQ: No, I've had considerably more. |
| 20:09.56 | SpeedEvil | IIRC 1.5M |
| 20:09.58 | FIQ | because I wonder if my operator is (wrongly) throttling me (I should have more, and with tests w/others with same operator, they get more), as my current data plan suggest higher speeds (I'm fully aware that it's a theoretical max, but I seem to hit 384Kbit/s, and never more than that, but not often less) |
| 20:09.59 | SpeedEvil | I forget though |
| 20:10.49 | FIQ | and N900 suggests that I'm on 3.5G, but I still cannot get more |
| 20:10.57 | FIQ | Interesting enough, I get more *up* than down |
| 20:11.06 | FIQ | (~1Mbit) |
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| 20:21.21 | MrPingu | estel_, ping |
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| 20:25.35 | zeq | freemangordon: it's been a *very* long time since I last did any Debian packaging. |
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| 20:42.12 | Estel_ | MrPingu, pong |
| 20:45.51 | ShadowJK | I routinely do about 8Mbit/s on N900 3g hspa |
| 20:46.19 | Estel_ | ShadowJK, have You tried testing hostmode max speed? |
| 20:46.37 | Estel_ | reportedly, it's only ~32 Mbit/s max |
| 20:46.54 | Estel_ | no idea why |
| 20:47.09 | Estel_ | (as client, real high speed is no problem) |
| 20:48.42 | ShadowJK | I have not |
| 20:49.34 | SpeedEvil | Estel_: I would at this point add test results, but it'd mean getting out of bed. |
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| 20:53.30 | Estel_ | SpeedEvil, :) |
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| 21:15.26 | MrPingu | Hi, Estel_ :) |
| 21:15.48 | ShadowJK | 10Mbit/s 3g modem in n900 anyway |
| 21:16.09 | MrPingu | I wanted to ask you about your digitizers but I think I have to wait a bit |
| 21:17.22 | MrPingu | The company of my fake digitizers just replied me that they will pay me twice the shippingcosts and they assured they would get me an original |
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| 21:25.58 | vi__ | PING!!! |
| 21:26.06 | vi__ | Ping any German speaking chap here! |
| 21:26.19 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer: for example |
| 21:26.27 | vi__ | or perhaps |
| 21:26.30 | vi__ | chem|st: ! |
| 21:26.34 | chem|st | vi__: pong |
| 21:26.40 | vi__ | good evening sir. |
| 21:26.50 | vi__ | May I ask a quick favour of you? |
| 21:26.55 | Tofe | Und guten Nacht ! |
| 21:26.57 | chem|st | sure |
| 21:27.18 | chem|st | Tofe: wrong spelling and I wont leave the channel |
| 21:27.22 | vi__ | can you read this short letter I have put through google translate and tell me if it makes anykind of sense or if it is just gibberish. |
| 21:27.26 | vi__ | http://pastebin.com/NTXcFbdB |
| 21:27.27 | Tofe | no, but I will :) |
| 21:27.31 | Tofe | bye |
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| 21:28.03 | chem|st | vi__: gtranslate is a bad idea! |
| 21:28.55 | vi__ | What else can I use? |
| 21:29.04 | chem|st | vi__: may I have the original paste please, it is rubish... |
| 21:29.08 | vi__ | lol |
| 21:29.45 | chem|st | even trying to get the right sense is off my limits |
| 21:29.46 | vi__ | http://pastebin.com/txVFz8Sm |
| 21:29.53 | vi__ | there |
| 21:30.12 | chem|st | vi__: do you know his name? |
| 21:30.58 | vi__ | 1 sec |
| 21:31.11 | vi__ | beim-mueden-bjoern |
| 21:31.14 | vi__ | perhaps? |
| 21:31.21 | chem|st | vi__: in german you'd say "Dear Sir $surname" |
| 21:31.40 | chem|st | vi__: get it |
| 21:32.05 | vi__ | yes |
| 21:32.21 | vi__ | which of the above names is his surname? |
| 21:32.29 | vi__ | beim-mueden-bjoern |
| 21:33.23 | vi__ | these are the contact details I have: |
| 21:33.23 | vi__ | ***************************************** |
| 21:33.26 | vi__ | DER MÜDE BJÖRN - KLASSISCHE MOTORRADTEILE |
| 21:33.27 | vi__ | verkäufer mit top-bewertungen |
| 21:33.27 | vi__ | THE TIRED KRAUT - CLASSIC BIKE PARTS |
| 21:33.27 | vi__ | top - rated seller |
| 21:33.29 | vi__ | ***************************************** |
| 21:33.31 | vi__ | Rudolf-Diesel-Str. 12 |
| 21:33.34 | vi__ | Industriegebiet Nord |
| 21:33.36 | vi__ | D-68535 Neckarhausen |
| 21:33.39 | vi__ | Deutschland/Germany |
| 21:33.41 | vi__ | Ust-Idnr./Tax-Nr. DE 253 690 770 |
| 21:33.44 | vi__ | ***************************************** |
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| 21:34.52 | chem|st | vi will this be emailed ahead of the return? |
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| 21:36.54 | vi__ | bah anti spam garbage |
| 21:39.49 | chem|st | vi__: bush in terms of bushings? |
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| 21:40.40 | vi__ | a mechanical bush, so yes a bushing. |
| 21:43.16 | chem|st | vi__: your first part (for pic one) is even in original not very telling |
| 21:43.54 | chem|st | you had to fit your old bush to the new monoshock, as the shipped with was worn out |
| 21:44.22 | chem|st | then you had to remove it again from his monoshock to put it back in your old monoshock? |
| 21:44.29 | vi__ | yes that is the case |
| 21:44.42 | chem|st | that is nothing he will be interested in... useless information... |
| 21:45.17 | vi__ | it explains why there is no bottom bush in the shock i am returning. |
| 21:45.42 | vi__ | also it adds weight to my case that this item is not as it was sold as |
| 21:46.28 | chem|st | I'd say the something like, the bushing was gone so I had to replace it, the gas damping is broken... |
| 21:46.47 | chem|st | ah I see |
| 21:46.57 | chem|st | ok I figure it out... |
| 21:48.11 | vi__ | the gas damping is more than broken. It is not even fitted. |
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| 21:48.44 | vi__ | however I cannot admit I know that as a suspension mechanic had to open it to find this out. |
| 21:48.59 | vi__ | it is just a 'shell' of a shock absorber. |
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| 21:58.08 | chem|st | vi__: http://pastebin.com/DsU1L2da |
| 21:58.39 | chem|st | vi__: please state up front that you do not speak german and that he may reply in english, guess that will not be that a problem |
| 21:59.24 | chem|st | you may also tell that I helped and cc me so he may contact me if he does not speak english |
| 21:59.56 | chem|st | vi__: next time you tell me what you need and I ask my father to get one for you |
| 22:00.40 | vi__ | chem|st: I love you. |
| 22:00.44 | vi__ | chem|st: bro. |
| 22:00.58 | chem|st | vi__: you may regret it some time :) |
| 22:01.24 | vi__ | If you have paypal address I would be honoured if I may stand you a beer or 2? |
| 22:01.45 | chem|st | vi__: community is community, beer anytime but I prefer a personal meetup! |
| 22:02.02 | chem|st | vi__: you got my email for cc? |
| 22:02.20 | vi__ | cc? |
| 22:02.27 | vi__ | you mean ca? |
| 22:02.27 | chem|st | carboncopy email? |
| 22:02.49 | vi__ | the paste you just made? |
| 22:03.20 | chem|st | vi__: did you even read that about telling in your mail that you do not speak german?! |
| 22:03.53 | chem|st | send both in one letter |
| 22:04.00 | chem|st | ehrm email |
| 22:04.07 | vi__ | aah. |
| 22:04.19 | vi__ | I missed the second part about cc. |
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| 22:05.00 | chem|st | tell between german and english that you had help for translation |
| 22:05.16 | internetishard | how do you make it so the sent email messages from your n900 appear in "sent" in gmail? |
| 22:05.39 | chem|st | internetishard: move them by hand from send on N900 to gmail... |
| 22:05.52 | internetishard | everytime? |
| 22:05.53 | chem|st | sentmail.. |
| 22:06.03 | internetishard | I thought this was the point of synchronization of devices |
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| 22:06.15 | chem|st | internetishard: I do not know about any other solution |
| 22:06.28 | chem|st | brb |
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| 22:40.20 | cehteh | blubb |
| 22:40.31 | chem|st | drowning? |
| 22:40.44 | cehteh | needs avrdude on the n900 anyone tried that yet? |
| 22:42.10 | vi__ | brb |
| 22:44.49 | chem|st | cehteh: there is no .deb if you mean that, s/o told to have ported it to n810 but I do not see it in the repos |
| 22:45.30 | cehteh | when you remind who was it, please tell me |
| 22:45.39 | cehteh | and bonus points for avr-gcc :P |
| 22:47.06 | chem|st | cehteh: steffen vogel, http://www.steffenvogel.de/2009/01/11/selfmade-nokia-n810-micro-usb-otg-kabel/ |
| 22:48.38 | chem|st | cehteh: https://0l.de/cgit/ |
| 22:49.40 | cehteh | thanks |
| 22:51.02 | chem|st | what's the bonus? |
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| 22:53.33 | cehteh | bonus is a 2nd lukewarm handshake :P |
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