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| 09:53.40 | Elleo | can anyone point me towards what the difference between the qt-components and qt-components-10 packages? Which should I be depending on for maximum compatibility? |
| 09:58.34 | Elleo | ah, looks like qt-components-10 is what I want |
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| 11:55.04 | chem|st | Elleo: you are mike? |
| 11:55.14 | Elleo | chem|st: yep |
| 11:55.24 | chem|st | ah ok, |
| 11:57.19 | chem|st | you can have the testing live... you brake all dependencies and push to testing a bit fast |
| 11:57.54 | Elleo | I just changed the dependency from qt-components to qt-components-10 |
| 11:58.01 | Elleo | nothing else about the package has changed |
| 11:58.23 | Elleo | since qt-components doesn't appear to contain harmattan compatible components, whereas qt-components-10 does |
| 11:59.38 | chem|st | and you cannot install qt-components-10 with qt-components installed... |
| 11:59.42 | chem|st | so update brakes |
| 11:59.52 | Elleo | not much I can do about that |
| 12:00.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol |
| 12:00.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | fsck the rest, as long as my app runs? |
| 12:01.07 | Elleo | it's not at all clear what I should be doing here |
| 12:01.14 | chem|st | Elleo: make eyrie force uninstall of qt-components first... |
| 12:01.19 | Elleo | chem|st: how? |
| 12:01.55 | Elleo | the procedure for porting from harmattan to the n900 seems very unclear to me |
| 12:02.05 | Elleo | with multiple incompatible versions of qt-components around |
| 12:02.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | hell, an app that's going to replace qt on my system... You know what... |
| 12:02.35 | Elleo | DocScrutinizer51: it doesn't replace qt |
| 12:02.51 | Elleo | it replaces qt-components, the com.nokia.meego qml elements |
| 12:03.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | the I'm mistaken |
| 12:03.14 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: qt-com10 is not able to overwrite needed stuff of qt-comp so it stalles and dpkg extis 1 |
| 12:03.23 | Elleo | and it's not the only app that depends on qt-components-10, it was a mistake to depend on qt-components in the first place |
| 12:03.35 | Elleo | surely qt-components-10 should be marked as replacing qt-components? |
| 12:03.37 | chem|st | Elleo: and it does not replace it tries to install at the same time |
| 12:03.50 | Elleo | well isn't that a bug in qt-components-10? |
| 12:04.21 | chem|st | for now a workaround is to have your install replace it by hand and note it to maintainers of qt-components |
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| 12:05.02 | chem|st | yes but you cannot push things to testing if installing buggy stuff is required with out doing a workaround yourself |
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| 12:05.54 | chem|st | or it will brake when updating... |
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| 12:06.13 | chem|st | what it does |
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| 12:06.33 | chem|st | 0.2-1 updating to 0.2-2 dies |
| 12:06.49 | Elleo | qt-components-10 is marked with Conflicts: qt-components (<< 1.0~20111000), the latest version of qt-components is 1.0~20111000-1, presumably that's the real issue |
| 12:07.16 | Elleo | since qt-components-10 actually conflicts with qt-components 1.0~20111000 as well |
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| 12:09.08 | chem|st | Elleo: 0.2-2 has just a nice and lit black screen... |
| 12:09.32 | Elleo | chem|st: with qt-components-10? |
| 12:09.39 | chem|st | yes |
| 12:10.07 | chem|st | 1.0~git20111014-1+0m5 |
| 12:10.17 | Elleo | try doing an "apt-get --reinstall install qt-components-10" maybe qt-components removed some parts of that package if they conflict |
| 12:10.54 | chem|st | I uninstalled qt-components and all things eyrie pulled and started from the beginning |
| 12:11.15 | Elleo | including qt-components-10? |
| 12:11.44 | Elleo | because on my system which had qt-components-10 from the start it works fine |
| 12:12.20 | chem|st | Elleo: eyrie pulls qt-components-10 (1.0~git20111014-1+0m5) |
| 12:12.36 | chem|st | is there another version in devel? |
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| 12:13.34 | Elleo | yeah, looks like there is |
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| 12:13.42 | Elleo | how do I unpublish a package? |
| 12:14.05 | Elleo | I think I'll just leave this until qt-components is sorted in testing |
| 12:14.18 | chem|st | leav it in devel for now... |
| 12:14.26 | Elleo | how do I revert it to devel? |
| 12:16.00 | chem|st | I have no idea, I am no maintainer |
| 12:16.51 | chem|st | what else is different versions |
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| 12:19.44 | Elleo | well I've filed a bug for the qt-components-10 issue |
| 12:19.49 | Elleo | not sure there's really much else I can do for now |
| 12:20.56 | chem|st | make it work with the version in testing? |
| 12:23.40 | chem|st | Elleo: I am pulling in from devel now, anything to know? |
| 12:24.11 | Elleo | chem|st: pass |
| 12:24.28 | Elleo | I haven't used my n900 in over a year, this is my first attempt at doing anything with QT on it |
| 12:24.52 | chem|st | qt-components-base-theme gets an upgrade too |
| 12:25.13 | chem|st | :) no worries, I am sure you will get it sorted over time! |
| 12:26.47 | Elleo | hmm, what should I be specifying with -t to get packages from extras-testing? simply doing apt-get install -t extras-testing qt-components-10 still seems to pull from extras-devel |
| 12:27.33 | Elleo | oh, I guess they all end up with the release name of "fremantle" or something |
| 12:28.13 | Elleo | I'll just disable devel temporarily |
| 12:28.23 | chem|st | for instance yes |
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| 12:29.11 | chem|st | I'd try to replace qt-components-base-theme first, see if that brakes it already |
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| 12:30.24 | chem|st | qt-components-base-theme 0.1.90-1+0m5.1 got upgraded with qt-components-base-theme 0.8.0-1+0m5 |
| 12:31.10 | Elleo | okay, I'll try with the various combinations of versions of both packages until I track it down |
| 12:31.45 | Elleo | seems to be qt-components-10 doesn't have com.nokia.meego |
| 12:32.00 | chem|st | Elleo: just to tell.... for the records... awesome! battery; cell strength; network; clock displayed^^ |
| 12:32.15 | Elleo | (in testing) |
| 12:32.27 | Elleo | hopefully it's just a change in the package naming |
| 12:32.43 | Elleo | because there's no way I'm rewriting the entire UI with new components ;) |
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| 12:33.33 | chem|st | Elleo: ehrm how do you get the minimize and close buttons on n900? |
| 12:34.20 | Elleo | chem|st: just tap where they would otherwise be |
| 12:34.38 | Elleo | it should automatically show a message at the top immediately after start mentioning that |
| 12:34.52 | Elleo | (handled by qt-components on the n900, not by me) |
| 12:37.03 | Elleo | hmm |
| 12:37.07 | chem|st | the message does not show for very long though |
| 12:37.12 | Elleo | looks like I might have to depend on qt-components for now after all |
| 12:37.31 | Elleo | since they do provide com.nokia.meego components (even if they have all the wrong dimensions) |
| 12:37.43 | Elleo | and just hack the QML a bit for the n900 to change the sizes of things |
| 12:39.38 | Elleo | it looks like it's probably mostly the toolbar component in qt-components that's broken |
| 12:40.54 | chem|st | and it does not work... |
| 12:41.10 | Elleo | chem|st: make sure you're using a song it actually knows about |
| 12:41.16 | Elleo | that fingerprint database is quite small at the moment |
| 12:41.23 | chem|st | tried world charts... |
| 12:41.54 | Elleo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGuOm7_yOL8 <-- is known to work for example |
| 12:42.14 | Elleo | alternatively http://echoprint-data.s3.amazonaws.com/echoprint-list-of-tracks.txt has a big list of all the supported tracks |
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| 12:43.13 | chem|st | nope still |
| 12:43.14 | michaaa62 | hi, i am having problems installing ubuntu-mobile on my n900 |
| 12:45.06 | michaaa62 | int_ua: are you here? |
| 12:45.29 | chem|st | michaaa62: then you may go to #ubuntu-mobile |
| 12:45.36 | chem|st | ~seen int_ua |
| 12:45.37 | infobot | int_ua is currently on #maemo-ssu (1h 48m 30s), last said: 'freemangordon: Hi, we are talking about the 3.0 kernel with mpoirier on the #linaro channel if you are interested :)'. |
| 12:46.11 | michaaa62 | thanks, i try. |
| 12:48.25 | chem|st | Elleo: does the app need to find a fingerprint or does it create one? |
| 12:48.45 | chem|st | echonest claims 30M songs |
| 12:48.49 | Elleo | chem|st: it creates a fingerprint then looks it up |
| 12:49.01 | Elleo | chem|st: that's for their file fingerprinting |
| 12:49.09 | chem|st | ok |
| 12:49.18 | Elleo | chem|st: for echoprint (their open source over the air algorithm) there's only about 200,000 |
| 12:49.35 | chem|st | a shame |
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| 12:55.52 | Elleo | right, I've managed to cobble together a version that works with qt-components in testing |
| 12:56.46 | Elleo | although you need to use the power button menu to close it since that version doesn't support any of the top bar stuff |
| 12:57.13 | chem|st | good... note that in the screen somewhere maybe°° |
| 12:58.00 | Elleo | maybe in the next version, I'm just going to push this out to get rid of the broken version in testing then get some sleep |
| 12:58.14 | Elleo | although hopefully by then qt-components-10 will work properly |
| 12:58.33 | Elleo | since I don't really want to have to maintain a bunch of extra hacks for the n900 |
| 12:59.05 | chem|st | Elleo: sleep well! |
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| 12:59.21 | Elleo | thanks |
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| 13:10.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | keep in mind powerbutton menu might not offer the needed functions |
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| 13:11.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | user is free to reconfigure that menu to their liking |
| 13:12.20 | Elleo | DocScrutinizer51: well I'll add a quit button or something in a future release |
| 13:12.35 | Elleo | for now I just want to get a version in testing that doesn't use qt-components-10 since that seems broken |
| 13:14.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | Elleo: there's always ctrl-bs ;) |
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| 13:14.29 | Elleo | heh, I guess |
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| 14:03.44 | dreamer | hmmm, why can't I have my micro-sd formatted to ext3? isn't there support for that fs? |
| 14:04.14 | luke-jr | dreamer: you can, but Maemo stupidly hard-coded vfat expectations some places |
| 14:04.19 | dreamer | meh |
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| 14:06.47 | dreamer | luke-jr: so the mediaplayer and stuff will only read media on a vfat card? |
| 14:07.00 | luke-jr | nah, you just need to mount ext3 manually |
| 14:07.10 | luke-jr | also, ext3 is a poor choice for flash |
| 14:07.15 | luke-jr | might consider ext2 |
| 14:07.29 | dreamer | ok. is that because of the journalling? (read something about it) |
| 14:07.34 | luke-jr | ext3/ext4 assume magnetic driver behaviours |
| 14:07.37 | luke-jr | yeah |
| 14:07.59 | dreamer | hmm, I just copied over 8Gb from my previous card .. don't really feel like re-formatting :P |
| 14:08.16 | luke-jr | your risk :P |
| 14:08.27 | luke-jr | ext3/4 are more likely to corrupt data, and destroy the card |
| 14:08.37 | dreamer | well it's a brand new class 6 card |
| 14:08.48 | luke-jr | personally I'm more worried about data corruption |
| 14:08.56 | dreamer | and isn't journalling supposed to prevent data corruption? :) |
| 14:09.07 | luke-jr | it's supposed to, but it assumes magnetic behaviours ;) |
| 14:09.40 | luke-jr | MicroSD often write things out of order, which makes those assumptions bad |
| 14:09.55 | luke-jr | because ext3 won't even do an integrity check later if it thinks it knows what's going on |
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| 14:10.29 | luke-jr | at least ext2 will scan the filesystem for errors |
| 14:10.57 | freemangordon | luke-jr, latest CSSU-testing automounts all partitions on SD card |
| 14:11.05 | luke-jr | freemangordon: cool |
| 14:11.11 | freemangordon | (assuming fs is supported) |
| 14:11.27 | luke-jr | makes note not to consider CSSU until he has a long day free |
| 14:11.35 | luke-jr | (that'd mess up my own mounting scripts) |
| 14:11.42 | freemangordon | :D |
| 14:11.50 | freemangordon | yeah, you should remove them |
| 14:12.01 | luke-jr | freemangordon: not practical! |
| 14:12.09 | luke-jr | I arrange them for other OS's |
| 14:12.18 | luke-jr | freemangordon: does it auto-enable swap too? |
| 14:12.29 | luke-jr | would be nice if it disabled the internal swap if it did that <.< |
| 14:12.33 | dreamer | so, bla. reformat to ext2? is that the concensus? (still have to manually mount I guess?) |
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| 14:13.07 | StyXman | dreamer: yes |
| 14:13.20 | luke-jr | dreamer: unless you need permissions/owners, you might also consider vfat <.< |
| 14:13.22 | freemangordon | luke-jr: no, there is a code for auto-enabing swap in ke-recv (legacy from maemo4 I suppose), but it is commented out |
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| 14:13.52 | StyXman | luke-jr: or filesnames with things like ? or ! |
| 14:13.57 | luke-jr | freemangordon: probably something to do with my experience that Maemo crashes with uSD swap |
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| 14:14.11 | dreamer | luke-jr: well, I don't need it particularly. I just may want to have files >4G on it some day .. |
| 14:14.30 | StyXman | dreamer: or that |
| 14:14.42 | luke-jr | you planning to run VMs on N900? XD |
| 14:14.48 | freemangordon | luke-jr: It is you the only one having problems with swap on uSD then. |
| 14:15.08 | freemangordon | for others it leads to a massive performance gain |
| 14:15.30 | freemangordon | BTW i think flash wearing is a bit overrated |
| 14:15.59 | luke-jr | O.o |
| 14:16.49 | freemangordon | even an average TtF of 100000 hours means 700 years according to a document vi_ posted somewhere (compcache thread?) |
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| 14:43.44 | cbeau | Anyone knows anyting about getting PEAP+mschapv2 working on maemo? |
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| 14:50.22 | chem|st | dreamer: you may mount ext3 as ext2... |
| 14:51.42 | cbeau | i've been using ext3 for a couple of yrs without problem. there is some fix in a couple of files somewhere you have to make to get it to automount in maemo, but it does work. |
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| 14:52.40 | chem|st | cbeau: we do not want a sd-card mounted as ext3 but if you do not want to remake-fs you can just mount an ext3 as ext2 and journaling is off |
| 14:53.19 | chem|st | cbeau: what is it, eduroam with peap mschapv2 seems to work... |
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| 14:53.52 | dreamer | chem|st: I'm tempted, but I may just reformat |
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| 14:56.05 | chem|st | dreamer: you do not need to reformat ext3, if you mount it as ext2 it is just ext2... |
| 14:56.29 | chem|st | ext3 is ext2+journal afair |
| 14:56.41 | chem|st | think that never changed?! |
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| 14:57.55 | cbeau | chem|st: well, eduroam or not, it doesn't work for me. I think it doesn't work for anyone... these maemo forum/wiki posts are from before the last update I think... I think that's what broke my mschapv2 |
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| 14:58.41 | cbeau | chem|st: do you use peap + mschapv2 yourself? |
| 14:59.41 | chem|st | nope |
| 14:59.49 | chem|st | cbeau: told you yesterday |
| 15:00.20 | mlwane | hey everyone |
| 15:00.39 | chem|st | but your outer tunnel seems to work, but your mschap doesn't |
| 15:00.47 | cbeau | chem|st: oh, i have terrible memory. see, i'd really like to find someone who is using it and it's working fine for them. or i'd like to get help from anyone to get it working. |
| 15:00.54 | mlwane | i'm having this weird problem .. |
| 15:01.26 | cbeau | chem|st: that's right. the outer tunnel is correctly communicated as PEAP, but the inner tunnel is not communicated to be mschapv2 so when I send my password, it doesn't know what to do with it. |
| 15:01.28 | chem|st | cbeau: certificate? anonymous username? |
| 15:02.08 | chem|st | mlwane: elaborate |
| 15:02.11 | mlwane | when i try to install libqtm-12-contacts i get this error: "libqtm-12-contacts: Depends: libqtm-12 but it is not going to be installed" |
| 15:02.23 | cbeau | chem|st: certificate is up-to-date and working (no warning, no issue) and the username is not annonymous and completely well received (acknowledged) as per our computer people's logs. |
| 15:02.35 | mlwane | but libqtm-12 is perfectly installed ! |
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| 15:03.25 | chem|st | there is a 2nd username for mschap that has to be set afair |
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| 15:03.48 | chem|st | mlwane: that may be a version problem |
| 15:04.00 | chem|st | manualy |
| 15:04.12 | cbeau | chem|st: yes, in the advanced menu. And I've done that. And I am able to verify through our computer people that it has been properly received. |
| 15:04.18 | chem|st | what network is it you are connecting to? |
| 15:04.36 | chem|st | eduroam? |
| 15:05.01 | mlwane | "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libqtm-12-contacts: Depends: libqtm-12 but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages" that is what i get exactly |
| 15:05.05 | chem|st | you must not set a password there |
| 15:05.17 | cbeau | chem|st: my university's wireless network. it uses the same infrastructure for its eduroam ssid as for the others (multiple ssid mapping to same network) |
| 15:05.29 | chem|st | mlwane: lock into package which version it depends on |
| 15:05.41 | cbeau | chem|st: you must not set a password where? In the advance menu? I couldn't even if I wanted to: no field for that there. |
| 15:06.03 | chem|st | ok then I have no further suggestions |
| 15:06.09 | cbeau | :( |
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| 15:06.54 | cbeau | yes, I know. I've tried all the obvious, read all the forums and tried everything everyone suggested. At this point I have tried all the combinations of all the options in all the menus, still no luck. Argh! |
| 15:07.11 | cbeau | I think javispedro could help me, but he's not around. |
| 15:07.15 | chem|st | cbeau: ask on the mailinglist if someone from your university or someone with eduroam setup may have a suggestion |
| 15:08.34 | cbeau | chem|st: I've done one better: I've sat down with the wireless guy and by tracking my MAC address, he could look at my requests while they were coming in and failing. It is through him that I found out the inner tunnel protocol was not being communicated to the system. |
| 15:09.45 | cbeau | chem|st: and even he has no suggestion for me at this point. There are other protocols opened (like GTC and WEP), but the former requires that I keep retyping my password everytime I move a little bit and the latter requires that I authenticate through a website every time :( |
| 15:09.53 | chem|st | but that is eap-mschap and that is working for my inner tunnel |
| 15:10.02 | chem|st | wep? |
| 15:10.33 | chem|st | horray |
| 15:13.28 | cbeau | I mean peap+gtc and wep. yeah, wep has been kept around for a few very old machines which required it. |
| 15:14.58 | cbeau | chem|st: what do you mean that is eap-mschap and that is working for my inner tunnel? Do you mean that you use gtc and if that's used than mschapv2 should work too? |
| 15:18.03 | cbeau | wait, no, that makes no sense: what doesn't work for me is PEAP+mschapv2 but what does work is PEAP+gtc but the latter method does not allow you to cache a password (in the maemo interface) so it's not practical (i have to type password everytime I move a little) |
| 15:18.24 | cbeau | chem|st: what are you saying works for you? |
| 15:19.51 | chem|st | ttls outer mschap inner tunnel |
| 15:20.47 | cbeau | chem|st: oh, i see. so i perhaps it is the peap+mschapv2 that messes up on communicating the mschapv2 part of things...? |
| 15:22.28 | chem|st | yes and that may be not an issue for you but the guys at uni... |
| 15:24.08 | mlwane | chem|st: i checked .. i have libqtm-12 version 1.2 |
| 15:25.03 | mlwane | chem|st: and libqtm-12-contacts doesn't specify any version it just says depends on libqtm-12 |
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| 15:25.51 | cbeau | chem|st: do you have any idea what package on maemo would be responsible for this problem? |
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| 15:44.44 | chem|st | cbeau: no but if, I am pretty sure it is closed source |
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| 15:47.37 | chem|st | mlwane: do you have that problem when installing cssu? |
| 15:48.44 | chem|st | mlwane: on tmo there is a thread about having those troubles when installing cssu if PR1.3.1 is present |
| 15:49.53 | chem|st | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79713 |
| 15:57.17 | freemangordon | ~seen ascipa |
| 15:57.22 | infobot | i haven't seen 'ascipa', freemangordon |
| 15:57.35 | freemangordon | ~seen acsipa |
| 15:57.35 | infobot | freemangordon: i haven't seen 'acsipa' |
| 15:57.47 | chem|st | ~seen achipa |
| 15:57.47 | infobot | achipa <~attila@a91-155-190-80.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 204d 6h 6m 56s ago, saying: 'also libqtm-12 seems to have lost the promotion block so it's borked in general as it propagated to testing'. |
| 15:57.49 | freemangordon | infobot: you're blind |
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| 15:58.19 | chem|st | hehe exactly what we are after but 204d ago^^ |
| 15:58.55 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
| 16:00.28 | mlwane | chem|st: I already have CSSU installed |
| 16:00.38 | freemangordon | chem|st: depending packages: "mbarcode-plugin-qrcode libqtm-12-dev libqtm-12 libqtm-12-declarative " |
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| 16:02.35 | freemangordon | hmm, maybe a new upload with "replaces: libqtm12-versit" will do the job |
| 16:04.07 | freemangordon | anyway, someone should report that problem to Attila Csipa |
| 16:06.03 | mlwane | chem|st: thanks for the help, I guess it was a version conflict since it installed smoothly after disabling dev, testing and ovi repositories |
| 16:12.19 | chem|st | mlwane: good to know o_O |
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| 18:07.36 | c3sso | helo |
| 18:09.27 | c3sso | seems like I have a broken rootfs memory. Can somebody guide me how to mark the bad blocks? |
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| 18:13.56 | c3sso | anybody here to help? |
| 18:16.37 | mlwane | is it possible to clone maemo5 to an sdcard ? |
| 18:16.57 | taixzo | mlwane, yes |
| 18:17.22 | c3sso | hmm I would be also interested in that. seems my memory for rootfs is corrupted |
| 18:18.05 | taixzo | one moment, let me find the page again |
| 18:18.35 | taixzo | ok, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83719 |
| 18:18.42 | c3sso | thx |
| 18:20.45 | c3sso | ok, that will not work for me, as my rootfs is borked, i/o errors even after fresh reflashing. |
| 18:21.08 | mlwane | thanks a lot taixzo |
| 18:21.33 | c3sso | so I cannot copy it over, I need to fix the filesystem / flash memoy first |
| 18:21.54 | c3sso | *memory* |
| 18:23.40 | taixzo | c3sso, perhaps you could copy from a emmc image? |
| 18:24.25 | jacekowski | not from emmc |
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| 18:26.58 | taixzo | I mean for flashing. |
| 18:32.38 | c3sso | seems that I could use backupmenu to fsck the root partition - does anybody know about that? |
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| 18:33.25 | taixzo | do you already have bm installed? |
| 18:33.56 | c3sso | nope |
| 18:34.13 | c3sso | trying to install now |
| 18:34.22 | taixzo | hmm. I don't know if you can install it if you can't boot. |
| 18:36.31 | c3sso | I CAN boot. but the flash mamory is corrupted. So it works after first boot, but on second, I e.g. use the images, some programs to not behave correctlz, apt fails to write to /var/cache/apt/archives and so on. But on fresh flasheing, it could work.maybe I am lucky. |
| 18:40.19 | mlwane | c3sso: the guide for cloning maemo5 may help you, there is a step in which you mount the rootfs on a pc |
| 18:40.49 | c3sso | ok I will check it out |
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| 18:51.29 | c3sso | ok, installing backupmenu fails - proram manger spits out "not enough memory left" |
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| 18:54.30 | c3sso | seems I am stuck, as I would have to have cloned the phone before.. also how to boot into other os if I cannot install bootloader? |
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| 19:06.10 | taixzo | c3sso, you can flash a kernel with uboot |
| 19:08.33 | c3sso | ok, seems I have to read the wiki more thouroughly, thanks! |
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| 20:08.08 | mlwane | c3sso: you can try booting meego from an sdcard, you may be able to mount rootfs there and maube use some tools to check the system |
| 20:09.18 | taixzo | is meego more stable than Nemo? |
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| 20:13.35 | fasta | Can I get wpa2 support on an n900? |
| 20:15.23 | GeneralAntilles | taixzo, MeeGo is defunct. |
| 20:15.26 | GeneralAntilles | taixzo, so, yes. |
| 20:16.12 | taixzo | GeneralAntilles, ok. I was wondering because it seemed to run smoothly, whereas nemo always hangs after a few minutes of use. |
| 20:18.45 | Sicelo | to mount maemo's rootfs 'externally', you may find NIN101's RescueOS unbeatable, among other methods |
| 20:22.18 | Sicelo | about Nemo, eew, i was hoping things would get better |
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| 21:20.42 | dreamer | how can I update the library of the default mediaplayer? I just added my new card |
| 21:21.15 | kerio | fasta: it should already be supported |
| 21:21.30 | kerio | i mean, it would be weird if it wasn't, my wifi network is wpa2/aes only, and it works |
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| 21:22.29 | fasta | kerio: also in the GUI? |
| 21:22.35 | kerio | yeah, sure |
| 21:22.43 | fasta | kerio: it certainly isn't in my version. Since when? |
| 21:23.07 | fasta | kerio: It's not in the default Nokia release. |
| 21:23.15 | fasta | kerio: is there some wiki page? |
| 21:23.22 | kerio | just tapped on his wifi network |
| 21:23.31 | kerio | i'm on PR1.2 fwiw |
| 21:23.35 | kerio | which is actually a bit old |
| 21:23.54 | fasta | kerio: are you sure your network is not just using fallback? |
| 21:24.10 | fasta | kerio: i.e. did you explicitly configure or see the string wpa2 anywhere on your phone? |
| 21:24.20 | fasta | kerio: I think I also have PR1.2. |
| 21:25.11 | fasta | So, not wpa, but wpa2. |
| 21:25.14 | kerio | pretty sure, yeah |
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| 21:29.43 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: YT? |
| 21:31.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | not really |
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| 22:09.04 | Woody14619 | fasta: I use wpa2 at home, no fall-back, and have since at least PR1.2. There are tons of things that can bork wpa2 though. Search TMO forums for wpa2 setup problems and you'll find manythreads, almost all with a solution. |
| 22:09.30 | fasta | Woody14619: and it is shown in the GUI? |
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| 22:10.54 | Woody14619 | fasta: yes and no. There's a bug that can cause it to not show up depending on how you add the network. If you add it the normal way (hit top bar, network, and select it) then it shows up fine. If you try to use settings, internet connections, add, it doesn't. |
| 22:11.30 | Woody14619 | fasta: I think that particular bug was fixed in PR1.3, but I'm not sure of it, as I tend to use the former method, not the later. |
| 22:11.30 | fasta | Is there also some way to add mediaformats to play? |
| 22:11.45 | Woody14619 | media formats? |
| 22:11.54 | fasta | I.e. those that come from more modern phones like the Samsung Galaxy S2? |
| 22:12.33 | fasta | I have no idea, what it is, quite likely it's playable with vlc on a desktop system. |
| 22:12.59 | Woody14619 | Still not sure what you mean... but... mplayer and vlc are available on N900. |
| 22:13.53 | Woody14619 | But if a particular phone is using some proprietary codec, good odds unless you're on that particular device it won't work. |
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| 22:27.09 | fasta | Woody14619: it's just that it doesn't play with the built-in media player. |
| 22:27.28 | fasta | Woody14619: so, perhaps vlc on the phone just plays it. vlc on the desktop surely plays it. |
| 22:28.07 | fasta | The thing which is great about this channel is that the signal to noise level is relatively high (if you don't count me ;) ) . |
| 22:28.15 | Woody14619 | fasta: vlc has a lot of extra codecs in it, and is activly still developed. media player has a nice base set. |
| 22:28.50 | fasta | Woody14619: is there some way to tell the media player to take a hike and to let vlc take over? |
| 22:30.02 | Woody14619 | fasta: there are app reassigners, not sure what the name of the package is though. So yes. But vlc is much heavier then media player, and not quite as stable. |
| 22:30.23 | Woody14619 | K, am off... have to get out of here. :) Good luck fasta |
| 22:31.08 | fasta | Woody14619: thanks anyway. I will lookin to the whole wpa2 thing. |
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| 23:09.15 | nox- | ffplay applehttp+http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/NTV-Public-IPS.m3u8 - venus transit, 720 |
| 23:09.17 | nox- | p |
| 23:09.25 | nox- | (ot :) |
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| 23:24.57 | Pali | nox-, thanks for non flash link! |
| 23:25.10 | nox- | np |
| 23:25.14 | nox- | :) |
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