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| 05:59.10 | chem|st | *yawn* |
| 05:59.27 | chem|st | drops a pott of coffee in the channel |
| 06:00.11 | fastlane` | yawns out loud even |
| 06:03.40 | DocScrutinizer | mumbles something |
| 06:04.12 | DocScrutinizer | cehteh: the circuit seems rather nifty |
| 06:04.33 | DocScrutinizer | cehteh: hard to find sth better and simpler |
| 06:05.11 | DocScrutinizer | cehteh: probably only possible by redefinition of "simple" |
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| 06:10.32 | DocScrutinizer | my 'new' laptop is on its way... *finally* |
| 06:11.14 | DocScrutinizer | 500GB of free space, I think there's some left over for SB ;-D |
| 06:15.46 | fastlane` | so what are the configurations of your new laptop |
| 06:16.08 | fastlane` | docscrutinizer |
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| 06:18.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, I decided on slightly different approach re thumb2 erratas - ALWAYS set IBE bit on board init, disable it later through sysfs if needed. Any comments? |
| 06:18.46 | DocScrutinizer | an old used lenovo t500, with 8GB and 500GB storage |
| 06:19.13 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: well, not much of a difference, nothing a initscript couldn't handle anyway |
| 06:19.48 | DocScrutinizer | it's even arguable if that's maybe the better config, as it alows early boot binaries ith thumb interworking |
| 06:20.18 | freemangordon | yeah, that is why i choose it |
| 06:20.29 | DocScrutinizer | sounds all ok to me |
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| 06:25.06 | DocScrutinizer | (t500) I hope to teach linux/X11 to properly switch between 'internal' and auxiliary graca |
| 06:25.57 | DocScrutinizer | hell, win7 knows to switch on the fly, so linux will be able to learn that too, no? |
| 06:27.01 | DocScrutinizer | anticipates heavy patching sessions against xserver |
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| 08:26.38 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer: there might be some problems with intel+fglrx/radeon (I am just guessing the setup) |
| 08:27.05 | chem|st | lot of people drop into #ati asking about that |
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| 10:04.36 | infobot | freemangordon: i haven't seen 'javiespedro' |
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| 10:05.51 | infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 18h 47m 24s ago, saying: 'that'd make for interesting performance counters'. |
| 10:06.08 | freemangordon | teotwaki, thanks |
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| 10:29.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: yeah, I'm aware of the (heating) problems when enabling both gracas |
| 10:30.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: since I'm using the t500 for 99.99% just stationary, I might as well go for 'external' card only setup |
| 10:31.41 | chem|st | +1 |
| 10:32.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | btw DHL delivered, just can't wait to come home |
| 10:35.03 | chem|st | ;) |
| 10:36.07 | chem|st | I cannot wait to get home to have a full 3 days WE without electronics but my phone^^ |
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| 12:17.33 | Estel_ | Jaffa, re-ping |
| 12:18.38 | Estel_ | strange, if I reboot device and left it overnight, then try powertop, it properly enters c3 state |
| 12:18.50 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: a friend ov3r here ordered an n9 saying "a good way to show nokia that I still like them but not wp" alike |
| 12:19.27 | Estel_ | but, something from normal usage tings make it to sit in C1 all the time. either wifi-adhoc enabling and disabling, or charging... |
| 12:19.33 | Estel_ | investigates |
| 12:19.56 | chem|st | that sounds like a PR1.2 bug... |
| 12:22.15 | Jaffa | Estel_: re-pong |
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| 12:34.26 | Estel_ | Does anyone remember, how to set maemo mailing list to forward all messages directly, instead of daily batches? |
| 12:34.29 | Raimu | Hmm, that "Battery low" blomp sound Maemo starts making is annoying me more as time passes. |
| 12:34.50 | Raimu | Need to see where it is disabled. |
| 12:35.05 | fastlane` | do share ocne u find out Raimu |
| 12:35.20 | Estel_ | is it just neccessary to set up subscribtion without "yes" to "would like to receive batches"? as now I'm receiving only batches, for months actually |
| 12:36.10 | Estel_ | chem|st, not possible, I haven't encountered it for ages, afaik kernel-power fixed it long time ago |
| 12:36.17 | fastlane` | maybe unsubscribe and resubscribe Estel_ |
| 12:36.22 | Estel_ | although, it also ressembled me such old bug |
| 12:36.36 | Estel_ | fastlane`, hm |
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| 12:37.51 | Estel_ | chem|st, maybe something in cssu or kp broke old fix, I'm checking it now |
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| 12:38.51 | fastlane` | btw, does anyone know, I downloaded the latest qt sdk 1.2.1, it has the harmattan target but not fremantle, so where can I add that target? |
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| 12:46.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | Estel_: KP fix for booting issue |
| 12:46.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | possibly breaks USB activation/C1 fix in KP |
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| 13:17.25 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51, why is that? |
| 13:17.51 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, denied, I can't reproduce it now |
| 13:17.56 | Estel_ | idk wtf |
| 13:18.04 | Estel_ | it was bugging me whole yesterday |
| 13:18.33 | Estel_ | I tried wifi ad hoc, fm radio (with terminating it wrong way) |
| 13:18.36 | Estel_ | charging |
| 13:18.49 | Estel_ | in all combinations, and CPU properly enters C4 |
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| 13:19.28 | Estel_ | yesterday, and for few days already, it got stuck on C1 without any reasons - low ammount of hw wakeups etc |
| 13:19.58 | Estel_ | dunno why. easdy debians's xbindkeys was keeping cpu in c3, but it isn't related to main issue |
| 13:20.24 | freemangordon | Estel_, you should check your voltages, your last issue, along with previous issue with 720p, smells like too much undervolting |
| 13:20.27 | Estel_ | for last few days I was using, mainly, ad hox wifi, fm radio and charging :( no idea wtf |
| 13:20.42 | freemangordon | or too much OC |
| 13:20.56 | Estel_ | freemangordon, tried on dsp setting with stock range |
| 13:21.22 | Estel_ | BTW common things for all occurences of problem - after reboot, for some time, cpu enters C4 all right |
| 13:21.35 | Estel_ | then, after long usage, "something" trigger some bug |
| 13:21.51 | freemangordon | sure, but you know DSP OC combined with SR is unstable on some devices |
| 13:22.01 | Estel_ | and CPU is in C1 all the time (0.01 % time in C2, so it "tries") |
| 13:22.07 | Estel_ | yea. |
| 13:22.17 | freemangordon | yours being one of them :) |
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| 13:22.21 | Estel_ | hm, it was working fine for months, but who knows |
| 13:22.40 | freemangordon | with KP50? I doubt |
| 13:22.42 | Estel_ | ok, so if I got hit by it again |
| 13:22.54 | Estel_ | what to do to confirm/deny? |
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| 13:23.05 | freemangordon | Estel_, do you use u-boot by chance? |
| 13:23.09 | Estel_ | I'll use device as normal, and check powertop |
| 13:23.12 | Estel_ | no, not yet |
| 13:23.34 | Estel_ | multiboot, while booting only one kernel (power) :P |
| 13:23.47 | freemangordon | ok. as it was behaving like that when L2 cache was disabled, because of a bug in some of the older versions of u-boot |
| 13:24.00 | Estel_ | yea, remember about that |
| 13:24.04 | freemangordon | latest is fine |
| 13:24.36 | Estel_ | hm, so, lets say at evening I check powertop and CPU is stuck at C1 as lowest state |
| 13:24.42 | Estel_ | what should I try? |
| 13:24.47 | freemangordon | NFC |
| 13:24.48 | Estel_ | disabling sr? |
| 13:24.53 | freemangordon | yeah, maybe |
| 13:25.07 | Estel_ | it doesn't require reboot to activate? |
| 13:25.17 | freemangordon | no, it is changed on-the-fly |
| 13:25.19 | Estel_ | maybe disable dsp overclock |
| 13:25.20 | Estel_ | too |
| 13:25.39 | freemangordon | you should try "default" profile |
| 13:25.52 | freemangordon | it has range 250-600, no DSP OC, and SR on |
| 13:26.00 | Estel_ | and check if problem persist. although something tells me its unrelated. It reminds me of pr 1.2 C1 error too much |
| 13:26.06 | Estel_ | ok |
| 13:26.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | (152225 <Estel_> hm, it was working fine for months, but who knows) Estel_ that's the very nature of OC and EM: the chip wears out |
| 13:26.57 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, can't filter it out as source of issue, although I doubt it. well, will try without dsp OC and mpu OC |
| 13:27.23 | Estel_ | I doubt it, as it would be first really confirmed case of such nature, using sane overclocking (900 mhz max) |
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| 13:27.42 | Estel_ | so lets wait for confirmation, or another OC FUD will arise |
| 13:28.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | odds are the damage done to silicon isn't reversible by reverting to 'normal' clodck and voltage settings |
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| 13:29.15 | Estel_ | damage to silicon, that behaves like software bug and keep cpu in C1 state only, when certain software conditions are meet? I doubt it, but of course will keep and eye on it |
| 13:29.33 | Estel_ | I would rather think that for last few days I'm using things that are rarely used |
| 13:29.42 | Estel_ | both by me and by majority of users |
| 13:29.47 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51, sound reasonable, but AFAIK once once EM hits, there's no way back |
| 13:30.08 | Estel_ | = ad-hoc wifi for prolonged period of time, + fm radio program with is buggy as hell. |
| 13:30.17 | Estel_ | I even got idea, but no way to check it out |
| 13:30.29 | Estel_ | I remember, that everytime I got call during using fm radio... |
| 13:30.36 | Estel_ | it stucks beyond "repair" |
| 13:30.40 | Estel_ | need to kill it |
| 13:30.43 | Estel_ | hard way |
| 13:30.52 | Estel_ | then, i can restart it and listen again |
| 13:30.56 | freemangordon | Estel_, BTW you said early SSH is the reason for "shutdown" bug, can you confirm it |
| 13:31.03 | Estel_ | maybe it's keeping something out of proper state |
| 13:31.30 | Estel_ | i say that /default/kernel-boot entry for "*early ssh" can be reason for reboot bug |
| 13:31.42 | Estel_ | for me, after disabling it, reboot works |
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| 13:31.48 | freemangordon | i see |
| 13:31.54 | Estel_ | but would need to confirm it from someone who was not hit by bug |
| 13:32.00 | Estel_ | i.e You :P |
| 13:32.10 | Estel_ | enable it and reboot few times |
| 13:32.58 | Estel_ | it should fail approx. 50% of times at least |
| 13:33.16 | freemangordon | ok, will check it when have a time |
| 13:33.34 | Estel_ | btw, if until late evening I won't get hit by C1 bug, I'll buggy someone to call me while listening to radio and ad-hoc'ing |
| 13:33.52 | Estel_ | thanks, report back, maybe we've found it after so many years :P |
| 13:34.26 | Estel_ | tried killing fm radio hard way without call, but then it behaves ok |
| 13:34.41 | Estel_ | it seems that only heavy usage + call makes it go bananas |
| 13:35.06 | Estel_ | then, even after end of call and heavy usage ceased, You can't listen to radio again |
| 13:35.10 | Estel_ | and app is "frozen" |
| 13:35.27 | Estel_ | without messages about disabling fm module etc |
| 13:36.02 | Estel_ | btw I wonder why xbindkeys keeps cpu in C3 instead of C4 (200+ wakeups per 30 sec by xbindkeys from easy debian) |
| 13:36.21 | Estel_ | I was using it for more than a year, and haven't encountered decreased battery life |
| 13:36.30 | Estel_ | but fact is, that it keeps CPU in C3 |
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| 13:37.00 | Estel_ | so it must have some effect, even if not noticeable in real life |
| 13:37.22 | Estel_ | will check if Maemo's xbindkeys act like that too. |
| 13:38.06 | Estel_ | btw yesterday I got my shipment of 4 top-quality replacement styluses from china for 1$ each :P |
| 13:38.27 | Estel_ | I had to pretend I'm sales manager of one big gsm company in poland to get them |
| 13:38.38 | Estel_ | otherwise, only sold as 5000 units min. |
| 13:38.40 | Estel_ | :P |
| 13:39.34 | Estel_ | those 4 are from exact same plastic type, just without Nokia's logo. other replacements I tried were too elastic and "cheap", despite having unnecessary nokia logo |
| 13:39.44 | Estel_ | my son managed to bite out tip from replacement, lol |
| 13:40.01 | Estel_ | now I again feel those thing when taking stylus out from N900 |
| 13:40.15 | Estel_ | and this "whiiiz" sound, like taking sword off :P |
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| 13:40.35 | Estel_ | cheap elastic replacements doesn't make such sound |
| 13:41.21 | Estel_ | feel like Witcher again, when taking stylus off N900. I should paint xkcd-style comic about that |
| 13:45.16 | Estel_ | ... about N900 user/Wicther, that got task to cure King's daughter Nokia, cursed to be WP and eating people every full moon |
| 13:45.30 | Estel_ | ;) |
| 13:46.25 | Estel_ | ...and betrayder Elop, who is responsible for cursing "Young" princess. Haha, this pun is understandable only for readers of Sapkowski's books |
| 13:46.45 | Estel_ | and/or Witcher rpg players ;) |
| 13:52.08 | teotwaki | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=213819 |
| 13:54.46 | teotwaki | also, Reuter's coverage of Maxim 100's most beautiful women includes... 50 pictures. |
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| 14:59.04 | Estel_ | hm, Maemo's xbindkeys allow cpu to enter C4 state normally, so easy debian's xbindkeys may be called depreciated, as it keeps CPU in C3 |
| 14:59.23 | Estel_ | power loss isn't terriblr (or, honeslty, almost not noticeable) but still |
| 14:59.57 | Estel_ | anyway, I got little problem - I can't run Maemo's xbindkeys via script in /etc/event.d/ on boot 0_o |
| 15:00.28 | Estel_ | script actually tries to run it, but it doesn't work |
| 15:00.48 | Estel_ | if I run it manually, it works ok |
| 15:00.55 | Estel_ | any ideas wtf? |
| 15:01.16 | flux | maybe it's run too early, or maybe it has wrong environment. |
| 15:01.19 | Estel_ | it just require running it as user, "xbindkeys" |
| 15:01.35 | Estel_ | I tried - in script in etc/event.d - to: |
| 15:01.48 | Estel_ | osso-xterm 'xbindkeys' |
| 15:01.49 | Estel_ | and |
| 15:02.03 | Estel_ | osso-xterm 'run-standalone.sh xbindkeys' |
| 15:02.09 | flux | ...why would you run it through osso-xterm? |
| 15:02.25 | Estel_ | because it doesn't work otherwise at all |
| 15:02.30 | Estel_ | blocking rest of script |
| 15:02.39 | Estel_ | i.e. i have truecrypt entry as next line |
| 15:02.53 | Estel_ | if I try without osso-xterm, next line doesn't even start |
| 15:02.59 | flux | I seriously doubt it requires osso-xterm to function |
| 15:03.03 | Estel_ | formerly, I've used |
| 15:03.11 | flux | rather you need to instruct upstart to start the process in the background |
| 15:03.15 | Estel_ | osso-xterm 'debbie xbindkeys' |
| 15:03.19 | flux | I don't remember how that's done, though |
| 15:03.23 | Estel_ | as I've used easy debian one |
| 15:03.30 | Estel_ | it also worked only via osso-xterm |
| 15:03.48 | Estel_ | but worked well (despite xbindkeys from ed keeping cpu in c3) |
| 15:03.50 | Estel_ | flux, I see |
| 15:03.52 | Estel_ | hm |
| 15:04.57 | Estel_ | current script is "start on started hildon desktop" |
| 15:05.20 | Estel_ | and "stop on starting shutdown" |
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| 15:06.11 | Estel_ | everything except xbindkeys work like that |
| 15:06.24 | Estel_ | setting sysfs entry to disable indicator led for camera... |
| 15:06.34 | Estel_ | truecrypt dialog for mounting partition |
| 15:06.48 | Estel_ | mounting debian partition via 'debbie exit' :P |
| 15:06.56 | Estel_ | only xbindkeys fail to start |
| 15:07.03 | Estel_ | of course I may run it manually |
| 15:07.31 | Estel_ | but if someone would have idea how to properly automate it via /etc/event.d script like my other things, I would be very grateful |
| 15:07.49 | freemangordon | Estel_, maybe it should wait until h-d is started |
| 15:08.16 | Estel_ | hm, "start on started hildon desktop" |
| 15:08.23 | Estel_ | isn't exactly that? |
| 15:08.30 | freemangordon | yep, something like that |
| 15:08.37 | Estel_ | but it's like that already |
| 15:08.38 | freemangordon | should be hildon-desktop |
| 15:08.51 | Estel_ | <Estel_> current script is "start on started hildon desktop" |
| 15:08.54 | Estel_ | hm |
| 15:09.07 | Estel_ | start on started hildon-desktop |
| 15:09.22 | Estel_ | You're telling me that for more than a year I'm using wrong command? :P |
| 15:09.32 | Estel_ | quite funny, but it seems You're right |
| 15:09.48 | Estel_ | if yes, wiki article is wrong |
| 15:09.49 | freemangordon | well, there should be several scripts depending on hildon-desktop, check those for the correct dependency |
| 15:09.56 | Estel_ | aye. |
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| 15:11.51 | Estel_ | it seems You're right, all of them start on hildon-desktop |
| 15:12.16 | Estel_ | oh god I'm idiot |
| 15:12.17 | freemangordon | don't forget to edit the article on wiki |
| 15:12.29 | Estel_ | no, I have it hildon-desktop |
| 15:12.36 | Estel_ | just I'm pastefail master |
| 15:12.40 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer already told ya :P |
| 15:12.49 | Estel_ | :P true |
| 15:13.04 | Estel_ | so, it fails despite being run after starting hildon-desktop |
| 15:13.07 | Estel_ | wtf? |
| 15:13.37 | Estel_ | if I set it to start after truecrypt window and via osso-xterm I even see flashing xterm window... |
| 15:13.39 | freemangordon | do you have DISPLAY variable in place? |
| 15:13.52 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 15:13.55 | Estel_ | and it's run after everything settled down long time ago, yet, not working |
| 15:14.02 | Estel_ | display variable? |
| 15:14.26 | freemangordon | yeah, export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 15:14.34 | Estel_ | for xbindkeys?! |
| 15:14.51 | Estel_ | but if I see it, it seems it's set properly, yes? |
| 15:15.13 | freemangordon | hmm, it is x... after all, but I may be wrong |
| 15:15.43 | Estel_ | it's super strange, as it's first thing I've seen that doesn't start properly via event.d and being run after hildon-desktop started |
| 15:15.50 | Estel_ | but works from hand |
| 15:16.12 | Estel_ | maybe I should create .sh script and run it via event.d :P |
| 15:16.22 | Estel_ | and same command wrapped inside sh will work? |
| 15:16.58 | Estel_ | need to test it |
| 15:22.53 | Estel_ | hey, I got idea why it may be not working |
| 15:23.03 | Estel_ | I got my config in /home/user/.xbindkeysrc |
| 15:23.08 | Estel_ | it expect it there |
| 15:23.27 | Estel_ | but, when run as root, it expect it in /root/.xbindkeysrc |
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| 15:23.34 | Estel_ | which doesn't exist |
| 15:23.58 | Estel_ | maybe things started via event.d got root bits? |
| 15:24.14 | Estel_ | but, debbie <whatever> works, and when run as root it complains, normally... |
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| 15:27.50 | freemangordon | Estel_, well, try it with su |
| 15:35.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | nonsense, processes started via init.d/* have no home at all |
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| 15:35.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | and no real user in that sense |
| 15:35.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | they got root *permissions* |
| 15:36.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | but no root-user environment |
| 15:36.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | neither $PATH nor $HOME nor anything else associated to *real* users |
| 15:37.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | aah, and event.d is all the same like init.d in that regard |
| 15:37.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 15:37.52 | infobot | :), DocScrutinizer51 |
| 15:41.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | particularly about running X-session stuff from init.d we had a lengthy discussion in this very chan iirc, some weeks ago. searchterm: xhost |
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| 15:45.38 | Estel_ | hm, true, copying config to /root/.xbindkeysrc doesn't help |
| 15:45.45 | Estel_ | wrapping inside sh script too. |
| 15:46.57 | Estel_ | just can't make it to work, despite it should. |
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| 16:24.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | Estel_: wrapping imto anyrhing won't help. Use proper fully qualified pathnames for *all* commands and files |
| 16:25.17 | Estel_ | did that already :( |
| 16:25.32 | Estel_ | it "seems" to work, i.e. exit with proper code |
| 16:25.41 | Estel_ | yet it doesn't seem to be running |
| 16:25.51 | Estel_ | if I start it by hand/script/whatever, but not from event.d it works |
| 16:25.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | then you still got the problem that this preocess is no child of xserver |
| 16:26.09 | Estel_ | much more complicated things like debbie (.sh script to start debian chroot) works well, though |
| 16:26.30 | Estel_ | hm... any way to fix it? why iot isn't child of xserver, when other things are? |
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| 16:26.49 | Estel_ | and, I've even tried running it via osso-xterm "xbindkeys" |
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| 16:27.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | check chanlogs for "xhost" |
| 16:27.36 | ioan | hi. did any of you switch from n900 some kind of android phone and liked it? |
| 16:27.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | there are for sure better ways than xhost |
| 16:32.02 | Estel_ | ok, will try it |
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| 16:32.23 | Estel_ | ioan, I got NON-pleasure for setting up android phone for family member |
| 16:32.29 | Estel_ | installing cyanogenmod and such things |
| 16:32.32 | Estel_ | Nevermore! |
| 16:32.51 | Estel_ | spreads out black wings and flies out of the window |
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| 17:28.22 | infobot | sd69 <ae64f0d8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.100.240.216> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 33d 2h 45m 2s ago, saying: 'any thoughts on cOBS from cssu pov?'. |
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| 17:28.41 | infobot | ivgalvez <598c718a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.140.113.138> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 3d 3h 23m 59s ago, saying: 'sorry, we are polluting this room'. |
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| 17:44.52 | Estel_ | ping X-Fade |
| 17:44.56 | Estel_ | ~seen X-Fade |
| 17:44.57 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego #maemo-ssu. Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 1d 7h 54m 36s, last said: 'Maemo Council election results: http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=20'. |
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| 19:24.28 | Pali | ping freemangordon |
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| 19:30.19 | Pali | freemangordon, bq2415x charger driver working fine |
| 19:30.35 | Pali | I published all patches to kernel-power garage git |
| 19:31.00 | Pali | and deb packages are here: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/bq2415x/ |
| 19:31.48 | Pali | I created new patch for hostmode which export sysfs entry: /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/hostdevice |
| 19:32.13 | Pali | it contains speed of attached usb device after boost |
| 19:32.43 | Pali | so user space script can: choose some speed, enable boost, check hostdevice if correct |
| 19:33.21 | Pali | and do not depends on some output from dmesg |
| 19:34.44 | Pali | and when that sysfs file is changes, kernel call sysfs_notify so userspace apps can call poll or select |
| 19:35.26 | Pali | also some info about charging and hostmode is on: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bq2415x.html |
| 19:35.38 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, see ^^^ |
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| 20:14.29 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: cool, will check later |
| 20:14.57 | Pali | ok, note that charger autodetection working fine |
| 20:16.31 | Sicelo | hmm, looks like i missed out on some good info here |
| 20:16.40 | Sicelo | turns to the logs |
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| 20:19.12 | DocScrutinizer | sure, charger detection is simple. The real problem kicks in with hostmode and VBUS applied or generated |
| 20:20.16 | DocScrutinizer | for the "generated VBUS" part that's easy when the module itself is creating vboost |
| 20:20.37 | DocScrutinizer | for charging hostmode it will be more problem |
| 20:21.52 | DocScrutinizer | as checking for fastcharger spoils any peripheral negotiating ENUM etc over VBUS, and both events happen concurrently when you apply VBUS externally |
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| 20:24.25 | DocScrutinizer | as USB host you *must* pulldown bith D-lines by 12k |
| 20:25.03 | DocScrutinizer | for detecting D+. short you *need* to pullup one D-line |
| 20:26.26 | DocScrutinizer | pullup of any of the D-lines however is a signal for USB host that peripheral has been attached, and depending on which line gets pulled up, it's a signal for lowspeed or fullspeed |
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| 20:27.56 | DocScrutinizer | hat's why hostmode kernel patches had a kprintf("some asshole calling charger-detect() while we are in hostmode") |
| 20:28.27 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, I do not have Y cable for testing now (and I do not have much time for experiments now), but if somebody other has time for testing... |
| 20:29.06 | Pali | but autodetection is disabled when you enter to host mode |
| 20:29.13 | Pali | so I think it should work |
| 20:29.20 | Sicelo | Pali: \m/ |
| 20:29.25 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 20:29.37 | Pali | (of cource if somebody do not cat /sys/.../musb/connect) |
| 20:30.42 | DocScrutinizer | abyway my lenovo psu is DOA, and I'm possed and off for dinner and booze now |
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| 20:31.03 | DocScrutinizer | anyway* and pissed* |
| 20:31.08 | Pali | at least, we need to create new hostmode script which will use bq2415x driver |
| 20:31.11 | Pali | and also /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/hostdevice |
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| 20:31.22 | Macer | watching indiana jones at the last crusade |
| 20:31.44 | Macer | back in the day when people would mail stuff in brown paper |
| 20:33.34 | Macer | they always do the red line thing don't they? |
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| 20:40.54 | DocScrutinizer | HELL |
| 20:41.25 | DocScrutinizer | plugging in a charger w/o D+-short causes: |
| 20:41.32 | DocScrutinizer | 22:39 3734 31 31 -13 357 357 357 65535 1538 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:41.33 | DocScrutinizer | 22:39 3617 31 31 -144 357 357 357 65535 149 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:41.53 | DocScrutinizer | DIScharge jumps from 13mA to 144mA |
| 20:43.16 | Pali | it is with or without my patches? |
| 20:48.05 | DocScrutinizer | stock kernel |
| 20:48.11 | DocScrutinizer | 22:45 3694 30 30 -24 349 349 349 65535 845 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.13 | DocScrutinizer | 22:45 3700 30 30 -27 349 349 349 65535 774 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:45:41 IroN900 ke_recv[1927]: prop_modified:1901: udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_musb_hdrc modified usb_device.vbus |
| 20:48.16 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:45:41 IroN900 systemui-tklock[1298]: Method call received from: :1.15, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_close |
| 20:48.17 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:45:44 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .644196> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
| 20:48.19 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:45:44 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .645477> set_timeout(): Timeout 27 s event type:-1 |
| 20:48.21 | DocScrutinizer | 22:45 3612 30 30 -116 349 349 349 65535 180 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.22 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:45:52 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .633515> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
| 20:48.23 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:45:52 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .634766> set_timeout(): Timeout 19 s event type:-1 |
| 20:48.26 | DocScrutinizer | 22:45 3631 30 30 -115 349 349 349 65535 182 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.28 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:05 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .552613> incoming_cell_broadcast(): Incoming cell broadcast |
| 20:48.29 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:07 IroN900 ke_recv[1927]: prop_modified:1901: udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_musb_hdrc modified usb_device.vbus |
| 20:48.31 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:07 IroN900 browser[2264]: GLIB CRITICAL ** hildon-1 - hildon_window_get_is_topmost: assertion `HILDON_IS_WINDOW (self)' failed |
| 20:48.32 | DocScrutinizer | 22:46 3628 30 30 -97 348 348 348 65535 215 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.34 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:09 IroN900 kernel: [102216.049560] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed |
| 20:48.35 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:09 IroN900 systemui-tklock[1298]: Method call received from: :1.15, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_open |
| 20:48.36 | Estel_ | well, it seems stock ekrnel is not compatible. |
| 20:48.37 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:10 IroN900 kernel: [102216.361877] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open |
| 20:48.38 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:11 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .644165> isiclient_sms_timeout(): Request TIMEOUT |
| 20:48.38 | Estel_ | kernel* |
| 20:48.40 | DocScrutinizer | 22:46 3697 30 30 -40 348 348 348 65535 511 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.41 | DocScrutinizer | 22:46 3694 30 30 -25 348 348 348 65535 820 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.43 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:34 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .515076> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
| 20:48.44 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:34 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .517578> set_timeout(): Timeout 3577 s event type:-1 |
| 20:48.46 | DocScrutinizer | 22:46 3692 30 30 -29 348 348 348 65535 707 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.47 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:43 IroN900 ke_recv[1927]: prop_modified:1901: udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_musb_hdrc modified usb_device.vbus |
| 20:48.49 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:43 IroN900 systemui-tklock[1298]: Method call received from: :1.15, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_close |
| 20:48.50 | DocScrutinizer | 22:46 3591 30 30 -110 347 347 347 65535 189 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.52 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:50 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .041504> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
| 20:48.53 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:46:50 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .042755> set_timeout(): Timeout 3561 s event type:-1 |
| 20:48.55 | DocScrutinizer | 22:46 3641 30 30 -95 347 347 347 65535 217 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.56 | DocScrutinizer | May 25 22:47:05 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .813050> incoming_cell_broadcast(): Incoming cell broadcast |
| 20:48.58 | DocScrutinizer | 22:47 3615 30 30 -107 347 347 347 65535 193 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:48.59 | DocScrutinizer | OUCH |
| 20:49.01 | *** part/#maemo DocScrutinizer (~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 20:49.06 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, feel all right? |
| 20:49.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | damn, could someone kick me? |
| 20:49.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | c+p error |
| 20:49.31 | Vib3 | kicks DocScrutinizer51 |
| 20:49.33 | Estel_ | I see |
| 20:49.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | I immediately closed client |
| 20:49.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | didn't help |
| 20:49.55 | Estel_ | ah... Nothing faster than a kick, when You require it. Faster than any support :P |
| 20:50.25 | Estel_ | well, it seems stock kernel is not compatible. When I connect duymb charger without D=D- shorted, nothing like that happen. |
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| 20:51.10 | Estel_ | damn! |
| 20:51.21 | Estel_ | I'm disassembling one's N900 screen |
| 20:51.28 | Estel_ | and one of screws is... well, screwed |
| 20:51.40 | Estel_ | everything just turns around inside screw |
| 20:51.48 | Estel_ | and those screen screws aree *really* tight |
| 20:51.53 | Estel_ | no idea how to unscrew it |
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| 20:52.11 | DocScrutinizer | that's why service manual says "discard, do NOT reuse" |
| 20:52.21 | Estel_ | screw's point for screwdriver (how it's called in english?) is totally out. |
| 20:52.24 | Estel_ | yea, I know |
| 20:52.30 | Estel_ | unfortunately, it was this way already |
| 20:52.53 | Estel_ | my screws looks like new even after 5 or 6 re-screwing :P |
| 20:53.13 | Estel_ | well N900's screw cost probably less than 1 cent, but shipping... |
| 20:53.19 | Estel_ | anyway, any idea how to unscrew this bastard? |
| 20:53.28 | DocScrutinizer | no way |
| 20:53.33 | Estel_ | would just torn it out, if it wouldn't be inside screen |
| 20:53.42 | DocScrutinizer | drill it out, with a left turn drill |
| 20:53.48 | Estel_ | drilling is a no-go :P |
| 20:54.13 | Estel_ | hm |
| 20:54.23 | Estel_ | maybe I should solder something to this screw? although, solder is too weak... |
| 20:54.31 | Estel_ | and hard-soldering is a no-go too :P |
| 20:54.32 | DocScrutinizer | haha |
| 20:55.07 | Estel_ | a drop of metal-eater acid, and ceramic screwdriver... :P |
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| 20:55.47 | DocScrutinizer | you *might* try to glue a scredriver into the screw, but odds are you'll glue the screw to body of device, and usually the screwdriver won't stick enough to get the srew out |
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| 20:56.56 | DocScrutinizer | so drilling or brute force are your only options |
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| 20:57.38 | DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/171188/ was the shit I planned to paste btw |
| 20:57.42 | Estel_ | yea, drilling something so close to screw is going to be fun thing to do |
| 20:58.12 | Estel_ | looks like charging @ 100 mA and disabling it repeatedly |
| 20:58.13 | DocScrutinizer | and I really really wonder why my multiline edit requester didn't pop up on this monster paste |
| 20:59.00 | Estel_ | 22:45 3694 30 30 -24 349 349 349 65535 845 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
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| 20:59.00 | Estel_ | May 25 22:45:41 IroN900 ke_recv[1927]: prop_modified:1901: udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_musb_hdrc modified usb_device.vbus |
| 20:59.00 | Estel_ | May 25 22:45:41 IroN900 systemui-tklock[1298]: Method call received from: :1.15, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_close |
| 20:59.01 | Estel_ | May 25 22:45:44 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .644196> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
| 20:59.04 | Estel_ | May 25 22:45:44 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .645477> set_timeout(): Timeout 27 s event type:-1 |
| 20:59.06 | Estel_ | 22:45 3612 30 30 -116 349 349 349 65535 180 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:59.08 | Estel_ | May 25 22:45:52 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .633515> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
| 20:59.11 | Estel_ | May 25 22:45:52 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .634766> set_timeout(): Timeout 19 s event type:-1 |
| 20:59.13 | Estel_ | 22:45 3631 30 30 -115 349 349 349 65535 182 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:59.15 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:05 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .552613> incoming_cell_broadcast(): Incoming cell broadcast |
| 20:59.16 | DocScrutinizer | Estel_: each time the charge current jumps up, I plugged in charger |
| 20:59.18 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:07 IroN900 ke_recv[1927]: prop_modified:1901: udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_musb_hdrc modified usb_device.vbus |
| 20:59.23 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:07 IroN900 browser[2264]: GLIB CRITICAL ** hildon-1 - hildon_window_get_is_topmost: assertion `HILDON_IS_WINDOW (self)' failed |
| 20:59.26 | Estel_ | 22:46 3628 30 30 -97 348 348 348 65535 215 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 20:59.28 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:09 IroN900 kernel: [102216.049560] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed |
| 20:59.30 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:09 IroN900 systemui-tklock[1298]: Method call received from: :1.15, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_open |
| 20:59.33 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:10 IroN900 kernel: [102216.361877] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open |
| 20:59.35 | Estel_ | May 25 22:46:11 IroN900 cellular: csd[797]: ISI_SMS .644165> isiclient_sms_timeout(): Request TIMEOUT |
| 20:59.37 | Estel_ | 22:46 |
| 20:59.39 | Estel_ | ouh |
| 20:59.41 | Estel_ | it seems that Xchat's multiline requester is screwed |
| 20:59.41 | *** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
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| 21:00.17 | Estel_ | no problem, killed it already. but still thanks. |
| 21:00.25 | *** mode/#maemo [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 21:00.50 | DocScrutinizer | My konversation edit requester usually works |
| 21:01.10 | Estel_ | <Estel_> ah, I though you just plugged it and it jumped on it's own |
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| 21:02.03 | DocScrutinizer | no, plug in charger: discharging bat with ~120+, unplug and disch current back to <30 |
| 21:02.45 | DocScrutinizer | the fun stuff: each unplug unlocks screen |
| 21:03.24 | Estel_ | heh |
| 21:03.29 | DocScrutinizer | that's why I lock it immediately again: kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed |
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| 21:08.42 | DocScrutinizer | charge21.sh FTW |
| 21:09.18 | DocScrutinizer | waves and leaves home with a N900 with empty battery but hooked up to external powerpack |
| 21:11.34 | DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/171191/ |
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| 21:36.20 | Macer | omg the best part of indiana jones is when hitler signs the book |
| 21:38.08 | Estel_ | ;) watching it for the first time, eh? |
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| 21:51.30 | Estel_ | on N90's in question - this one that I've tried to dissasembly - digitizer got kinda "damaged" by bad protecxtor foilk |
| 21:51.32 | Estel_ | touching is ok |
| 21:51.42 | Estel_ | although, after applying this protector, and rem,oving it - due to bad visual effect |
| 21:51.47 | Estel_ | something "stayed" on screen |
| 21:52.01 | Estel_ | or, part of antiu-scratch layer on screen pelled off, either way |
| 21:52.06 | Estel_ | hard to tell, really |
| 21:52.16 | jacekowski | yeah, that's possible |
| 21:52.26 | jacekowski | nothing you can do about it |
| 21:52.33 | jacekowski | get new digitiser, with a frame |
| 21:52.34 | Estel_ | it jsut look like ultrathin layer on few parts of screen, OR lacking ultrathin layer from screen, really hard to tell |
| 21:52.36 | Estel_ | yea |
| 21:52.42 | Estel_ | but, do you think it's glue that stayed there? |
| 21:52.48 | Estel_ | or just something pelled off? |
| 21:53.33 | Estel_ | honestly, screen would look ok if I would be able to pell off rest of it, and attach "norma" screen protector (my screen protectors never do such shit to screen) |
| 21:54.18 | Estel_ | the worst thing is that one of screws holding screen together is... screwed. no way to unscrew it, and it don' have left-turning driller |
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