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| 01:14.26 | Estel_ | Does anyone remember ways of selecting Council's chair(man)? |
| 01:15.02 | Estel_ | For a moment I though it's person, who got most votes - which makes some sense - but it seems it's not |
| 01:16.03 | Estel_ | it's done via consensus amongst Councelors, or any way they feel fancy to decide it? |
| 01:16.13 | GeneralAntilles | The council decides internally. |
| 01:16.22 | GeneralAntilles | However they wish to go about it, but historically it's been consensus. |
| 01:16.41 | Estel_ | it's great, that many documentations is revived during current voting, see bugzilla and sources for voting system |
| 01:16.46 | Estel_ | I see, thanks. |
| 01:16.48 | GeneralAntilles | First qualification is motivation to deal with all of the busywork. Second qualification is time to deal with all oft he buzywork. |
| 01:17.57 | Estel_ | ;) BTW, why You've put councelor * next to SD69? I know Jaffa asked You about it already, nor I suspect any bad intentions |
| 01:18.06 | Estel_ | I'm asking just out of curiosity |
| 01:23.46 | GeneralAntilles | False memory of the last council selecting a chair. |
| 01:24.02 | GeneralAntilles | I guess I didn't want to believe they NEVER MANAGED TO select a chair. . . . |
| 01:26.48 | Estel_ | ;) It's probably because 2/3 of them dissapeared just after election |
| 01:27.12 | Estel_ | as for jeremiah, no surprise here, but momcilo dissapearing wasn't expected :/ |
| 01:27.41 | Estel_ | BTW I agree, that in such case, it's natural that SD69 was chair |
| 01:28.13 | Estel_ | but honestly, I must admit, that I haven't known about this position existence until few days before this situation started |
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| 01:39.58 | DocScrutinizer | the approach that "not asking for help" was most severe failure of recent council actually has a point |
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| 01:42.13 | DocScrutinizer | well, let's see how this pans out this time. It seems to me most candidates not even have an idea of the elementary purpose & duty of council, which is "stay in loop, LISTEN what community thinks and does". Hell, even the term "community" never been that fuzzy like it's today |
| 01:42.58 | DocScrutinizer | there's o governance of community |
| 01:43.02 | DocScrutinizer | no* |
| 01:43.48 | DocScrutinizer | IOW we're not electing our president, we're appointing ambassadors |
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| 01:49.57 | DocScrutinizer | I honestly hope those ambassadors don't think they already know what's "the best for community" |
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| 02:01.11 | Estel_ | well, I remember that SD69 asked for help many times, although, he don't used all available channels (IRC, mailing list) which sounds more proper than a TMO thread. But, I'm only such "wise" now ;) |
| 02:01.36 | Estel_ | also, asking for help without specify exact task is a little pointless |
| 02:02.06 | Estel_ | if You ask for general help, people generally agree to help, and it ends there ;) |
| 02:02.29 | Estel_ | BTW yea, I recognize the "ambassador vs ruler" thing |
| 02:03.03 | Estel_ | although, I feel that this Council may feel some thing like "ambassador + catalyst" |
| 02:03.23 | Estel_ | so referrendum may be used more times than during any Council period in history |
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| 02:05.19 | Estel_ | Of course I'm sure no one feels "ruler" here. After all, if Council member feel that something needs to be done, he can a) talk about it in a way others will share her/his view and proceed b) do it on her/his own :P fortunatelly, no way to "decret" it |
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| 02:19.05 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 02:20.40 | DocScrutinizer | (ask for help) I bet GAN950 and Jaffa are always willing to think 5 minutes about what might be about to go awry or has to be considered in the next future |
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| 06:04.59 | [DarkGUNMAN] | I've been trying to find out which application has been trying to initiate a network connection. I was advised to use dbus-monitor to find out the reason, but it is not showing anything. Anything else I can try? |
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| 10:24.04 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Is the rule still that something in News with at least one thumb won't make it to the front page of maemo.org? |
| 10:24.21 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Because it seems that every article attracts at least one thumb now. |
| 10:27.45 | Jaffa | X-Fade: If it is that, I'd propose changing it to something like hide if number of thumbs > number of upvotes / 2 |
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| 18:46.55 | marcello | hallo |
| 18:47.33 | marcello | i'm tring to compile the qt psql driver for postgres database |
| 18:48.37 | marcello | i 'm blocked on an error that report |
| 18:48.41 | marcello | symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlpsql.so: undefined symbol: PQstatus |
| 18:48.57 | marcello | that happend after the application connect the database |
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| 19:15.54 | marcello|2 | hallo |
| 19:15.57 | marcello|2 | i'm tring to compile the qt psql driver for postgres database |
| 19:16.02 | marcello|2 | i 'm blocked on an error that report |
| 19:16.06 | marcello|2 | symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlpsql.so: undefined symbol: PQstatus |
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| 20:14.53 | marcello|2 | hallo |
| 20:15.01 | marcello|2 | expirience with qt driver? |
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| 22:33.40 | MohammadAG | chem|st, mind killing http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84320 ? |
| 22:38.26 | MrPingu | LOL |
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| 23:01.22 | chem|st | MohammadAG: She's dead Jim |
| 23:03.13 | MohammadAG | thanks chem|st :P |
| 23:04.59 | DocScrutinizer | meh, I missed it |
| 23:06.03 | DocScrutinizer | ooh no. Just closed |
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| 23:55.35 | Jade | hi |