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| 02:10.23 | Macer | i can't seem to get a good syntax |
| 02:10.26 | Macer | [buffer @ 0x91fe4a0] Expected at least 7 arguments, but only 5 found in '640:272:0:1:1000000' |
| 02:10.29 | Macer | wtf |
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| 03:05.42 | DocScrutinizer | well |
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| 06:41.36 | CyFus | hey does anyone have the KDE install files for the n800? penguinbait's site has been offline for a while and I can't reach him |
| 06:43.19 | CyFus | i would be ever so grateful if someone still has the KDE358v2.tar.bz2 and SUPv4.tgz files, they fell down a black hole it seems |
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| 09:35.17 | elkng | what is maemo ? is it similar to android ? |
| 09:38.38 | elkng | is maemo only for nokia ? |
| 09:39.36 | dm8tbr | maemo was a mobile phone operating system by nokia |
| 09:40.15 | Tofe | The only similarity with Android is that its kernel is Linux. |
| 09:41.08 | elkng | it cant be installen on smartphones other than nokia ? |
| 09:42.32 | dm8tbr | it could, significant work would be required |
| 09:42.47 | dm8tbr | some of the open source components have been successfully been reused |
| 09:42.52 | dm8tbr | see hildon/cordia |
| 09:44.38 | Tofe | It would require an adapted kernel, plus an adapted boot sequence. And some specific non-open hardware stuff wouldn't work (likely to be GSM, GPS...) |
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| 09:49.32 | dm8tbr | foremost: phone capabilities would be unlikely to work OOtB |
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| 11:03.15 | DocScrutinizer | since when got android a linux kernel? |
| 11:04.22 | DocScrutinizer | I rather thought the brainless hacks to kernel were a main reason NOT to call andridiot any linux |
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| 11:05.08 | DocScrutinizer | if andridiot is linux, bsd and solaris are too ;-P |
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| 11:09.13 | DocScrutinizer | it's plain funny how everybody incl my employer says linux when they mean andridiot |
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| 14:03.03 | LaoLang_cool | hello, how to find a pkg's old version file? |
| 14:04.28 | psycho_oreos | apt-cache policy <pkg> |
| 14:08.07 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos, I want to download the file from pc :) |
| 14:08.37 | LaoLang_cool | I want to install openfetion which needs turn the testing or dev repo on |
| 14:09.24 | LaoLang_cool | but I don't want to turn it on just for openfetion, so I want to download the file from pc, and I also want to download some older versions, because the newer version doesn't work properly |
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| 14:11.36 | eichi_ | hello. I'm searching for a good way to syncronize my music from computer and n900. someone has an idea? rsync with obxfs mount has a lot of encoding problems while copying. Not usable |
| 14:12.31 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, so whats wrong with maemo.org's front-end package site? |
| 14:13.23 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos, I can't download old version of the file, say: http://maintenance.maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/openfetion/2.0-2/ |
| 14:13.34 | LaoLang_cool | The requested URL /extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/o/openfetion/openfetion_2.0-2_armel.deb was not found on this server. |
| 14:14.26 | LaoLang_cool | seems it only preserve for the file of the latest version |
| 14:14.46 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, version 2.0.1 is on the server however |
| 14:15.35 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos, that's the lastest version, but it has login issue... |
| 14:15.56 | LaoLang_cool | older version doesn't have such issue, but I can't find the file of them.. |
| 14:18.32 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, what's wrong with using pidgin plugin based on that protocol? |
| 14:20.00 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos, it doesn't work at all, can't login by it too |
| 14:21.35 | psycho_oreos | do you recall the version before 2.0.1? |
| 14:25.00 | psycho_oreos | actually jacekowski has a mirrored copy on his server, that exact same version 2.0-2 |
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| 14:27.16 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos, I've reflashed my N900, then I realize I didn't backup the old version of openfetion, it works fine, but it's gone... |
| 14:27.40 | LaoLang_cool | I used version 1.8 |
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| 14:35.03 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, at least the sources are there, I guess it'll be time for you to build the package by hand and install it |
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| 14:41.59 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos, ok.. |
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| 14:59.28 | DocScrutinizer | I think merlin1991 has a mirror that doesn't clean out old revisions |
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| 15:00.47 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer, where is it? |
| 15:01.01 | merlin1991 | file in question isn't there though |
| 15:01.02 | DocScrutinizer | I don't know |
| 15:01.10 | merlin1991 | it seems it got removed before I started the mirror |
| 15:01.19 | merlin1991 | the mirror itself is @ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror |
| 15:03.00 | LaoLang_cool | merlin1991, hmm.. |
| 15:03.19 | LaoLang_cool | anyway, I got a version of 1.8 from a forum :) |
| 15:03.45 | LaoLang_cool | it works now, I will save the file carefully |
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| 15:52.25 | mare | ciao |
| 15:52.33 | mare | !list |
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| 19:40.39 | spark666 | does the Enhaned Linux Kernel for power users is still up-to-date?and does it work ok whit pr1.3,and cssu testing? |
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| 19:43.07 | peterbjornx | pr1.3 should work |
| 19:43.12 | DocScrutinizer | spark666: basically yes |
| 19:43.21 | DocScrutinizer | KP50 |
| 19:43.28 | spark666 | peterbjornx: DocScrutinizer tnx both |
| 19:43.38 | spark666 | ill give it a try now :D |
| 19:43.40 | NIN101 | but maemo kernels in general are kinda outdated(2.6.28) |
| 19:43.51 | DocScrutinizer | who cares? |
| 19:43.59 | peterbjornx | would a linux 3.0 work? |
| 19:44.04 | peterbjornx | just wondering |
| 19:44.10 | NIN101 | not on maemo. |
| 19:44.15 | peterbjornx | in general kernels are compatible right? |
| 19:44.29 | DocScrutinizer | what's the acme app you can't do due to missing kernel features that are only available in kernel3.0? |
| 19:44.57 | peterbjornx | nothing, was just wondering |
| 19:45.31 | NIN101 | the big question is: 1. security vulnerabilities? 2. kernel enhencements in general. Big yes, actually it doesn't matter. |
| 19:45.35 | NIN101 | *but yes. |
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| 20:21.36 | spark666 | back |
| 20:21.42 | spark666 | the kernel works good |
| 20:22.08 | spark666 | and i think i see an improvement now at 850 overclocked cpu |
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| 21:18.07 | MohammadAG | chem|st, I think it's better this thread gets closed http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1202707#post1202707 |
| 21:18.34 | DocScrutinizer | OT: haha http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/t9qxy/reaching_the_limits_of_adobe_stupidity/c4kswc6 |
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| 21:20.48 | bennypr0fane | hello, I have a problem with kernel configuration. I get "not found" for kernel-config commands |
| 21:21.58 | bennypr0fane | I'm running kp50 |
| 21:22.15 | bennypr0fane | just installed kernel-power-settings 0.14 |
| 21:22.58 | bennypr0fane | I wanted to check the configuration and save QCPUfreq settings |
| 21:23.25 | DocScrutinizer | sighs, shrugs, turns away |
| 21:24.25 | bennypr0fane | is wondering whether away from him or the world |
| 21:24.48 | DocScrutinizer | from anything smelling like OC |
| 21:25.20 | bennypr0fane | well am I at least allowed to talk about it by now? |
| 21:26.08 | bennypr0fane | Or is it still customary in here to get bounced just for asking about it? |
| 21:26.13 | DocScrutinizer | you know why both kernel-power ans kp-settings are still around? Because each devel could point at the other app being the one causing damage to your device |
| 21:27.26 | bennypr0fane | ...about my question? |
| 21:27.37 | bennypr0fane | (the last one) |
| 21:27.55 | freemangordon | kernal-config show? |
| 21:28.02 | freemangordon | *kernel-config |
| 21:28.25 | bennypr0fane | I was asking whether I'm allowed to ask about this topic |
| 21:28.35 | bennypr0fane | or it will get me banned to do so |
| 21:28.45 | freemangordon | Don't think so |
| 21:28.46 | bennypr0fane | I was also called names last times |
| 21:28.53 | bennypr0fane | for no reason |
| 21:29.02 | bennypr0fane | *last time |
| 21:29.37 | bennypr0fane | so will it do damage to my device if I *show* the curretn configuration? |
| 21:29.52 | freemangordon | no |
| 21:30.08 | freemangordon | do (as root) kernel-config show |
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| 21:30.57 | bennypr0fane | ok, it was sudo |
| 21:31.05 | FIQ|n900 | hm |
| 21:31.29 | bennypr0fane | it didn't think of that bc output was just "not found" |
| 21:32.03 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane, no it is "root", and after getting # - kernel-config show |
| 21:32.03 | bennypr0fane | I thought it was supposed to give me a hint that I needed to be root |
| 21:33.26 | bennypr0fane | the thing of when sudo is necessary and when it's not still eludes me sometimes |
| 21:34.23 | bennypr0fane | however, I'm pretty sure people use kernel-power not just for oc'ing |
| 21:39.26 | bennypr0fane | changing subject: I can't get a GPS fix, ever - no matter in what application. Any hints where I might start to look for the problem? |
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| 21:41.11 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane, change sever to supl.google.com |
| 21:41.15 | freemangordon | *server |
| 21:43.14 | bennypr0fane | is that in the general settings? |
| 21:44.43 | freemangordon | settings->location |
| 21:44.57 | bennypr0fane | thanks! |
| 21:52.54 | peterbjornx | gps server? |
| 21:56.07 | bennypr0fane | still can't seem to get a fix... |
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| 21:57.19 | bennypr0fane | btw freemangordon, are there plans for building a portrait virtual keyboard into CSSU? |
| 21:59.00 | bennypr0fane | yay! my gps is back, finally! |
| 22:00.07 | spark666 | is happy whit the new kernel and tweaks ! :D |
| 22:00.22 | MrPingu | No there aren't plans AFAIK, however I would love to see a good portrait vkb... |
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| 22:01.44 | bennypr0fane | MrPingu you sure aren't the only one |
| 22:03.03 | bennypr0fane | I would even content myself with just getting an answer for once, even if it's just "no, not gonna happen", it would be better than just getting ignored... |
| 22:03.51 | bennypr0fane | also loves the new kernel specifically because the bluetooth headset issue is finally taken care of |
| 22:04.37 | spark666 | bennypr0fane: and i overclocked it to 850 |
| 22:04.40 | spark666 | :D |
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| 22:05.07 | MrPingu | benny0fane , l I think I can answer that. I believe I read somewhere that it won't happen. |
| 22:05.14 | bennypr0fane | another question been bothering me: is there going to be real portrait mode for all the stock apps in CSSU? |
| 22:05.29 | bennypr0fane | MrPingu where was thaT? |
| 22:06.33 | spark666 | i hate the protrait ways of cssu,i wish i could have rotation again just in faster app manager contacts and phone calls oohh and browser |
| 22:06.45 | spark666 | i hate when my desktop rotates |
| 22:06.47 | spark666 | :P |
| 22:06.52 | bennypr0fane | real portrait mode at least in Conversations would be awesome. And media Player, maps... (oh wait that's closed source - again!) |
| 22:07.27 | bennypr0fane | spark666 but you can, it's easy |
| 22:07.40 | bennypr0fane | just lock autorotate in CSSU settings |
| 22:07.42 | spark666 | bennypr0fane: teach me :D |
| 22:07.45 | spark666 | ohh |
| 22:07.52 | spark666 | thats what i do lol |
| 22:07.59 | spark666 | but it blcks all |
| 22:08.34 | spark666 | i want just the default ones to rotate like in default pr 1.3 :P |
| 22:09.25 | bennypr0fane | u mean it also keeps phone and browser form roatating? |
| 22:09.55 | spark666 | yes if i use the status bar shortcut to block rotation |
| 22:10.47 | bennypr0fane | try power button menu>cssu features |
| 22:11.26 | bennypr0fane | if there isn't a sinple way to set it in there, I'm sure there is a way to make it the way you want it |
| 22:11.42 | spark666 | i have just 2 options for rotation there,the axis and for apps |
| 22:12.32 | spark666 | none for desktops and stuffs,or to choose what to rotate and what not |
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| 22:13.52 | bennypr0fane | if under "rotation" you set "applications" to "default", it should do as you want |
| 22:14.41 | spark666 | its set to default and still my desktop rotates and other things i dont want |
| 22:14.58 | bennypr0fane | hmmm |
| 22:15.13 | bennypr0fane | have you searched the forums? |
| 22:15.32 | MrPingu | It's a gconf value that needs to be changed |
| 22:15.52 | MrPingu | *My internet is cactus |
| 22:15.54 | spark666 | MrPingu: humm didnt think about that |
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| 22:16.52 | MrPingu | spark666, I believe it's covered on the cssu features wiki ;) |
| 22:17.18 | MrPingu | Btw which flavour are you on? T or S? |
| 22:17.20 | spark666 | yes MrPingu but i tought that are by default for pr1.3 |
| 22:17.22 | bennypr0fane | spark666 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features |
| 22:17.25 | spark666 | testing |
| 22:19.00 | spark666 | i like bleeding edge :D |
| 22:19.00 | MrPingu | Second last item from the link bennypr0fane gave ;) |
| 22:19.14 | bennypr0fane | Disable rotation of desktop gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock -t bool true |
| 22:19.34 | spark666 | humm |
| 22:19.37 | MrPingu | Me too, but I don't like unstable software |
| 22:20.25 | bennypr0fane | spark666 best go through the whole page, it should give you a solution for all rotation settings |
| 22:20.32 | MrPingu | However I don't mind testing so every now and then and I know my way round so I am on testing too ;) |
| 22:20.43 | spark666 | humm MrPingu what linux distro u use? |
| 22:21.02 | MrPingu | hehe backtrack :P |
| 22:21.09 | spark666 | :P |
| 22:21.51 | MrPingu | Runned 2 months ubuntu but I didn't like it at all |
| 22:22.13 | spark666 | i dont like ubuntu either |
| 22:22.22 | spark666 | i test them all i guess |
| 22:22.37 | MrPingu | Now I am at OSX, and damn what a strange OS... |
| 22:22.44 | spark666 | the most beautifull was arch linux and now im on gentoo that rocks :d |
| 22:23.20 | spark666 | osx its nice but to closed source :P |
| 22:23.24 | bennypr0fane | omg arch linux did that not take you forever to set up? |
| 22:23.33 | spark666 | nope |
| 22:23.48 | spark666 | arch it fast it has binary pkgs |
| 22:23.49 | peterbjornx | gentoo is slow when installing |
| 22:23.59 | peterbjornx | its a source distro |
| 22:24.04 | MrPingu | I had problems with arch, gave me troubles at post-install |
| 22:24.19 | spark666 | it takes a while to installdrivers and all couse you have to do it whit ur hand from console |
| 22:24.25 | peterbjornx | i always used SuSE |
| 22:24.28 | ThreeM | mint :) |
| 22:24.34 | peterbjornx | but current opensuse just sucks |
| 22:24.34 | MrPingu | No OSX is kinda clumsy with windows |
| 22:24.35 | ThreeM | mint debian edition |
| 22:24.37 | spark666 | MrPingu: anytime you want i can give you a hand |
| 22:24.40 | ThreeM | and im happy with it |
| 22:25.03 | bennypr0fane | gotta say the wiki section for cssu is a bit out of date |
| 22:25.12 | MrPingu | After my Exams I will have a play again with arch |
| 22:25.23 | bennypr0fane | uses bodhi linux on laptop |
| 22:25.28 | spark666 | ThreeM: that was my fav mint :X |
| 22:25.38 | MrPingu | last week I loaded a usb with live OpenSuSe ;) |
| 22:25.40 | ThreeM | runs pretty good atm |
| 22:25.45 | bennypr0fane | and SUSE on desktop, got really frustrateds |
| 22:26.14 | bennypr0fane | I want things to just work out of the bpox as mcuh as possible |
| 22:26.23 | bennypr0fane | not the case with suse |
| 22:26.30 | MrPingu | Still I thing I am indoctrinated by windows :P |
| 22:26.31 | spark666 | for me it matters very much to be in control and to learn from it |
| 22:26.37 | MrPingu | * I think |
| 22:26.52 | bennypr0fane | MrPingu what you mean by indoctrinated |
| 22:27.45 | MrPingu | That I am still most productive at windows and I think it's still the best desktop OS |
| 22:27.58 | bennypr0fane | hmmm |
| 22:28.02 | MrPingu | (if you reinstall it every 6 months) |
| 22:28.07 | peterbjornx | i gotta admit, my primary OS is windows too |
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| 22:28.24 | peterbjornx | just cause else i'd have to use mac osx |
| 22:28.28 | bennypr0fane | Windows is just more mature in office productivity |
| 22:28.29 | ThreeM | winodws 7 is my secondary os, just to load some games and for videoediting |
| 22:28.54 | bennypr0fane | and you do get much more "works-ootb" |
| 22:29.03 | spark666 | btw |
| 22:29.17 | MrPingu | Yeah and as I am still at highschool and we are forced to use microsoft office |
| 22:29.22 | spark666 | do i need to reboot my phone after that gconf command?lol |
| 22:29.43 | bennypr0fane | spark666 not if it's not in the wiki |
| 22:29.47 | MrPingu | only restart hildon-desktop I think |
| 22:30.09 | spark666 | now it doesnt have any effect |
| 22:30.14 | spark666 | so better ill restart |
| 22:30.16 | spark666 | :p |
| 22:30.42 | MrPingu | OSX offers office too, but I just don't like it. Always fighting with lost windows :P |
| 22:31.14 | MrPingu | Windows getting behind other windows, not minimalizing |
| 22:31.26 | bennypr0fane | Yeah, just that the most advanced Office solution for OSX is MS Office |
| 22:32.03 | bennypr0fane | That's the great thing about Linuxes, you can have exactly your way |
| 22:32.31 | MrPingu | Only, it takes time to set up... |
| 22:32.32 | bennypr0fane | you can just make the desktop behave as you want it to |
| 22:32.34 | SpeedEvil | bennypr0fane: As long as you never update |
| 22:32.50 | bennypr0fane | SpeedEvil update what? |
| 22:33.12 | SpeedEvil | bennypr0fane: For example, ubuntu's latest UI change |
| 22:33.41 | peterbjornx | jsut apt-get install gnome-desktop |
| 22:33.46 | FIQ|n900 | depends on your distro really |
| 22:33.46 | bennypr0fane | Precise Unity is supposed to be much improved |
| 22:33.47 | peterbjornx | and use gnome classic :) |
| 22:33.58 | ThreeM | i like gnome-shell :) |
| 22:33.59 | peterbjornx | *apt-get install gnome |
| 22:34.09 | bennypr0fane | I'm going to give Unity a chance |
| 22:34.12 | SpeedEvil | At some point, the deprecated shell tends to stop working (well) |
| 22:34.51 | MrPingu | Why has the menu for launching an app have to cover more that 3/4 of the screen? |
| 22:35.35 | SpeedEvil | Every single interface has to be designed to be used by a 3 year-old on a 2" screen |
| 22:35.36 | MrPingu | Give me just the small startbutton and a text menu haha |
| 22:35.50 | FIQ|n900 | also is it just me or are the buttons in youtube's player absent on N900 since a few days back? |
| 22:36.38 | MrPingu | Idk, I use cutetube |
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| 22:37.38 | FIQ|n900 | hmm |
| 22:38.04 | spark666 | didnt worked :( |
| 22:38.19 | spark666 | told you that article its deprecated :P |
| 22:38.52 | FIQ|n900 | it would be nice if the terminal somehow remembered your commands in a way that made it possible to tabcomplete more than just the command (i.e. the params as well) |
| 22:39.04 | MrPingu | ~jrtools |
| 22:39.04 | infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 22:40.13 | MrPingu | gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false |
| 22:40.24 | bennypr0fane | spark666 I think you need the changed settings before you restart |
| 22:40.39 | bennypr0fane | *need to save the |
| 22:40.42 | spark666 | huh? |
| 22:40.56 | spark666 | in cssu setting gui? |
| 22:41.09 | bennypr0fane | no |
| 22:41.13 | bennypr0fane | in terminal |
| 22:41.21 | spark666 | how? |
| 22:41.42 | MrPingu | Or you can install gconf editor to have a gui |
| 22:42.03 | MrPingu | It's a bit like regedit |
| 22:42.08 | spark666 | i know to use that command,but how to save it? |
| 22:42.20 | MrPingu | I told ya, been using windows too much XD |
| 22:42.34 | spark666 | lol :P |
| 22:42.48 | spark666 | brb to make a coffee |
| 22:42.51 | spark666 | :D |
| 22:42.59 | MrPingu | Need some sleep |
| 22:43.20 | MrPingu | instead of coffee, atleast that would be better |
| 22:43.31 | spark666 | :P |
| 22:43.39 | bennypr0fane | spark666 Applying the changes to transitions.ini |
| 22:43.39 | bennypr0fane | Some of these changes (taskswitcher, zaxisrotation, forcerotation) apply as soon as you save the file, while others (blurless) require you to restart hildon-desktop. You can do so by turning the phone off and on again, or running as root: |
| 22:43.39 | bennypr0fane | killall hildon-desktop |
| 22:43.39 | bennypr0fane | This will kill the hildon-desktop process, and it will be automatically restarted with the changed settings loaded and applied. Be sure not to "killall hildon-desktop" too often in a row (like several times in one minute), or the system will restart (nothing dangerous, though - just an annoyance). |
| 22:43.50 | bennypr0fane | quoting from Wiki |
| 22:44.04 | DocScrutinizer | echo -e '#!/bin/sh\ngconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false" >/usr/local/bin/lockCSSUrotation; chmod +x /usr/local/bin/lockCSSUrotation |
| 22:44.12 | bennypr0fane | MrPingu I'm actually going for coffee |
| 22:44.22 | DocScrutinizer | spark666: ^^^ |
| 22:44.56 | MrPingu | Well I am going for sleep. only 5 and half hours left before I need to get up -.- |
| 22:45.08 | peterbjornx | lucky you |
| 22:45.14 | bennypr0fane | MrPingu then you better |
| 22:45.22 | peterbjornx | with the amount of homework i have left i dont think im going to get any sleep |
| 22:45.24 | bennypr0fane | good night |
| 22:46.02 | DocScrutinizer | on cssu it shouldn't reboot the phone anymore |
| 22:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | I think I made this patched |
| 22:46.26 | MrPingu | haha peterbjornx, I know that kind of pressure :P |
| 22:46.56 | MrPingu | well, bye! |
| 22:47.59 | DocScrutinizer | idly ponders to do for (i=0; i<6; i++); do killall hildon-desktop; sleep 3; done; |
| 22:48.46 | bennypr0fane | c u guys, have a good one! |
| 22:49.31 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: what's CSSU supposed to do now when HD keeps quitting? some fb shell? |
| 22:50.03 | DocScrutinizer | ooh wait, we don't even need HD to open osso-xterm |
| 22:50.38 | DocScrutinizer | so I suppose it should enter a terminal when you kill hildon-desktop too frequently |
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| 23:30.13 | spark666 | why i have the unknown at the end? |
| 23:30.32 | spark666 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.42 | FIQ|n900 | uhm |
| 23:30.55 | spark666 | Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power50 #1 PREEMPT Sun Mar 18 20:10:56 EET 2012 armv7l unknown |
| 23:30.59 | FIQ|n900 | "mcenfioptionstreeview" |
| 23:31.09 | FIQ|n900 | I have a feeling this is CSSU-related |
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| 23:37.25 | LaoLang_cool | Hi, I'm searching for xsel for maemo but without luck, any hint? |
| 23:37.36 | LaoLang_cool | I've found it before... |
| 23:37.47 | LaoLang_cool | But I can't recall where it is |
| 23:38.47 | LaoLang_cool | ok, sorry for noise, I found it at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34550&page=257 :) |
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