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| 09:05.01 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.03 | ruskie | pros: windows phone 7.5 |
| 09:05.04 | ruskie | cons: windows phone 7.5 |
| 09:07.22 | psycho_oreos | very detailed report too |
| 09:07.29 | psycho_oreos | rather review |
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| 09:08.40 | ruskie | heh |
| 09:08.45 | ruskie | just the end result |
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| 09:15.19 | jacekowski | well, apparently sales are picking up now |
| 09:18.53 | psycho_oreos | the last I want to hear are windows users come screaming in for support on maemo/harmattan just like those who wanted to install maemo on <insert any random non maemo device here> |
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| 09:28.44 | teotwaki | jacekowski: "sales are picking up" is a dubious statement. it just means that one person bought a device. |
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| 09:39.40 | vdv | hi all |
| 09:40.03 | chem|st_ | o/ |
| 09:40.23 | vdv | why if i do apt-get remove libmodest-dbus-client, about 44 packages are also to be removed? |
| 09:40.35 | timoph | packages depending on it |
| 09:40.42 | vdv | including hilden-applications-manager |
| 09:40.48 | chem|st | yes |
| 09:40.52 | vdv | i understand, that it's because of deps |
| 09:41.05 | vdv | but why that package have so many deps? |
| 09:41.25 | chem|st | all the nokia packages are depending on each other |
| 09:41.35 | vdv | isn't libmodest-dbus-client related only to modest email app? |
| 09:42.44 | chem|st | modest is the primary email app, if you remove it addressbook brakes if you remove addressbook hildon-desktop brakes if you remove hildon-desktop hildon-home brakes and so on |
| 09:42.46 | vdv | it's strange for me, that removing one modest related package cleans-up all system |
| 09:43.33 | vdv | chem|st, ok, thanks |
| 09:43.39 | chem|st | vdv: its like removing totem on a gnome system... you will end up with a server like config |
| 09:44.07 | vdv | lol |
| 09:44.31 | chem|st | vdv: for maemo even more strickt |
| 09:44.42 | chem|st | stricken... |
| 09:44.48 | vdv | is happy that he uses slackware on desktop |
| 09:45.27 | chem|st | is happy to have her sister leave slackware alone for now... |
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| 09:54.09 | StyXman | vdv: try removing any i18n package... |
| 09:54.56 | vdv | StyXman, no, thanks :) |
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| 09:55.20 | ruskie | has a simple solution for that... dummy packages that install nothing but replace the existing ones |
| 09:56.26 | vdv | heh |
| 09:56.37 | ruskie | have a script that generates the relevant stuff |
| 09:57.40 | ruskie | http://sprunge.us/FUSO?bash <-- in case someone cares about it |
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| 09:58.23 | mongrol | aha, there is a maemo channel |
| 09:59.33 | ruskie | you pass it what you want(gen_backup or gen_break) and a package name and it will generate either a backup of the currently installed package or an empty package |
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| 10:01.20 | psycho_oreos | hmm gen_backup function, don't tell me you've reinvented the wheel which dpkg-repack does ;) |
| 10:02.08 | ruskie | psycho_oreos, I believe the limitation was it needs to work on vanilla maemo |
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| 10:02.50 | ruskie | psycho_oreos, which doesn't have dpkg-repack |
| 10:03.04 | ruskie | it reinvents a lot of the stuff |
| 10:03.07 | psycho_oreos | ruskie, not that I've tried out your script but I wonder what would be the difference, for countless amounts of times I've relied on dpkg-repack when it comes to repacking those installed debs |
| 10:03.36 | ruskie | I doubt there would be much |
| 10:03.41 | ruskie | maybe a bit more metadata |
| 10:04.08 | DocScrutinizer | sounds interesting |
| 10:04.10 | psycho_oreos | yeah I do know dpkg-repack complains alot about all the extra metadata, usually those x-maemo-icon, etc |
| 10:05.16 | ruskie | and frankly I don't really care about reinventing the wheel or not |
| 10:05.22 | ruskie | it was a nice learning experience |
| 10:05.26 | ruskie | on how to hand craft .debs |
| 10:05.50 | ruskie | which I might need for some other project I had on the backburner as well |
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| 10:08.04 | psycho_oreos | looking at the script, its not just sounds interesting to me, its actually very interesting. It doesn't heavily rely on dpkg-deb which dpkg-repack heavily relies on.. let alone the build functionality out of that dpkg-deb. Reminds me that this could very well be an alternative for me to get gnu-tar installed on my harmattan as that has now become a real pita on pr1.1 |
| 10:09.09 | ruskie | well as said... the limitation was vanilla maemo 5 |
| 10:11.53 | psycho_oreos | I know I know, just looking at it, that could be something that I could base my bit of work around to make it working on harmattan. Thanks for the link! |
| 10:12.03 | ruskie | yw |
| 10:12.44 | ruskie | I'll probably/eventually do something similar for rpms as well... will have to see about slackware but might do it as well eventually |
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| 10:18.32 | jonwil | hi |
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| 10:58.26 | vdv | if modest doesn't autoupdate inside of xephyr, does that mean, that on real device that will happen too? |
| 10:59.54 | ShadowJK | wouldn't count on it |
| 11:02.49 | vdv | ShadowJK, ok |
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| 11:25.19 | vdv | does modest permanently delete messages? there's no trash folder, and it doesn't use gmail's trash folder too... |
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| 11:56.04 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/25/cook_settle_patents/ <-- heh |
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| 12:21.28 | RST38h | Solutions stirred with SCP-1067-c continue to stir themselves for up to four (4) hours after the initial stirring, even when obstructed with solid objects. Any liquids that come into contact with SCP-1067-c immediately become oolong tea. |
| 12:23.26 | kerio | RST38h: SCP is sooooo good |
| 12:25.59 | StyXman | scp? |
| 12:34.53 | kerio | http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ |
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| 15:11.51 | ErwinJunge | Weird problem: my scratchbox doesn't have dh_make? |
| 15:12.10 | ErwinJunge | (debhelper is installed) |
| 15:12.49 | ErwinJunge | dpkg -L debhelper | grep -c -E 'dh_make$' ---> 0 |
| 15:13.21 | jacekowski | there is no dh_make |
| 15:13.49 | jacekowski | or maybe there is |
| 15:14.59 | ErwinJunge | if there is no dh_make then how are we supposed to roll deb packages? |
| 15:15.10 | ErwinJunge | I can run it from the host system ofc, but seems odd that it's not in scratchbox |
| 15:15.34 | ErwinJunge | My host system has dh_make in a package named dh-make btw, but that's not in the scratchbox |
| 15:15.40 | jacekowski | it's in different package |
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| 15:19.04 | jacekowski | but i've got no idea where |
| 15:20.12 | jacekowski | dpkg-dev |
| 15:20.12 | jacekowski | hmm, no |
| 15:20.14 | jacekowski | http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Packaging_a_.deb |
| 15:20.18 | jacekowski | Note: dh_make doesn't seem to be provided by the Squeeze devkit, so you'll have to run it outside of Scratchbox to get a debian/ folder based on debhelper 7. |
| 15:20.29 | jacekowski | so you have to use older devki |
| 15:20.31 | jacekowski | devkit |
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| 15:22.35 | ErwinJunge | Confusing. So which would be better, run dh_make from outside scratchbox, or install debhelper7? |
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| 15:44.21 | jonwil | bah, I forgot how long Gentoo takes to build glibc :P |
| 15:46.29 | ErwinJunge | jonwil, How long would that be? |
| 15:46.47 | jonwil | a couple hours |
| 15:46.51 | jonwil | on my box anyway |
| 15:47.33 | ErwinJunge | Wow. I entertained the idea of switching to gentoo for a bit, but settled for debian sid instead eventually. Seems I made the right choice :) |
| 15:48.01 | ErwinJunge | I'm on an Atom powered netbook. What takes hours for normal people to compile takes days here ;) |
| 15:48.18 | jonwil | My box is a P4 1.4 |
| 15:48.28 | jonwil | with I think 1GB of ram |
| 15:48.31 | ErwinJunge | Ah, so not exactly "normal" either |
| 15:49.01 | SpeedEvil | http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone |
| 15:49.04 | SpeedEvil | wonders. |
| 15:49.41 | ErwinJunge | wonders what SpeedEvil wonders |
| 15:51.27 | SpeedEvil | If it's open enough |
| 15:53.24 | ErwinJunge | I wouldn't hold my breath |
| 15:53.53 | ArkanoiD_ | opensh: operation not permitted. wtf? i don't remember any dev mode updates to be installed recently |
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| 16:05.38 | jonwil | bah, no-wonder my gentoo compiles take so long, this box only has 512mb of RAM, not the 1GB I thought it had |
| 16:05.56 | jonwil | Not that I would be able to get more RAM for the thing though, its too old for that :P |
| 16:06.31 | jonwil | bah, its up to package 8 of 258 |
| 16:06.57 | ErwinJunge | jonwil, what is your estimate of the total compile duration? |
| 16:07.00 | jonwil | no idea |
| 16:07.08 | ErwinJunge | hours/days/weeks? |
| 16:07.23 | jonwil | probably a day or so depending on how large these packages end up being |
| 16:08.04 | jonwil | e.g. if those 258 packages include things like GCC or KDE or QT, its going to take longer |
| 16:08.06 | teotwaki | ArkanoiD_: don't run binaries from the fat partition. |
| 16:09.11 | jonwil | Thankfully I dont have any of the REALLY big packages installed like OO.o or Firefox |
| 16:09.40 | jonwil | oh snap, now the thing is telling me I am running out of disk space :( |
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| 16:15.23 | ArkanoiD_ | oops, wrong channel :-) it was for #harmattan |
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| 16:58.35 | swiftkick | hello! Can someone help with "Network Based Location Awareness" ? |
| 16:59.15 | r00t|home | swiftkick: ? |
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| 16:59.39 | swiftkick | r00t|home: ! |
| 16:59.56 | swiftkick | r00t|home: unable to contact user-defined location server. Using h-slp.mnc410.mcc310.pub.3gppnetwork.org instead. |
| 17:00.29 | swiftkick | Whenever I use mapping applications, or often times upon booting the phone, I get the phone asking if I want to enable "Network Based Location Awareness". |
| 17:00.31 | swiftkick | If I enable it, |
| 17:00.39 | swiftkick | the above error message pops up over... and over... and over |
| 17:01.15 | swiftkick | I know where the setting is to turn off this feature or put in a user-defined server adress. |
| 17:01.37 | swiftkick | But when I call my provider, AT&T, they dont seem to know what the hell I'm talking about. }=^> |
| 17:02.01 | swiftkick | r00t|home: any ideas? |
| 17:02.10 | swiftkick | Ive been googling on it and not coming up with much. |
| 17:03.02 | swiftkick | 3gppnetwork.org doesnt seem to exist, or at least, it doesnt have a web server at any address I can find. |
| 17:04.04 | r00t|home | the server is unrelated to your provider in any case |
| 17:04.32 | r00t|home | the default one is run by nokia, and there was some alternative from another company that's supposedly more reliable |
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| 17:05.32 | r00t|home | as far as i know (aka, wild guess), the system works by gps-enabled phone submitting mappings between gps-location and cell-id, which the server uses to locate cells |
| 17:05.47 | r00t|home | in any case, you don't need a server provided by your provider |
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| 17:49.33 | ErwinJunge | jonwil, Had to go for a while, but have one more question about your gentoo on P4 install: Why? |
| 17:50.17 | jonwil | I inherited this computer from someone to set up as a Linux box and dabble in Linux |
| 17:50.25 | jonwil | they had bought something new |
| 17:50.37 | jonwil | so in this case its "free hardware" |
| 17:51.01 | ErwinJunge | I meant "why gentoo" :) |
| 17:51.13 | jonwil | as for why Gentoo instead of say Ubuntu, I happen to like Gentoo |
| 17:51.36 | jonwil | and I like the idea that I can recompile any package I like with different options easily |
| 17:51.54 | ErwinJunge | "easily" being very relative in this case ;) |
| 17:52.04 | jonwil | it may be slow but it does compile :) |
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| 17:52.34 | jonwil | and besides, watching large packages compile can be a good way to take your mind off stuff if you are frustrated by something else |
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| 17:52.58 | jonwil | like not being able to figure out the inner workings of connui-home-cellular :P |
| 17:53.35 | ErwinJunge | Haha :) Is the system usable while it's compiling? |
| 17:54.55 | jonwil | yeah it sort of is |
| 17:54.59 | jonwil | command line at least |
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| 17:57.36 | ErwinJunge | Hm... so how often do you do these upgrades? Since even with a weekly upgrade it would mean a nearly unusable system for 1/7th of the time :S |
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| 17:59.17 | zeq | as a Gentoo dev I don't find my system unusable and I'm building almost continuously! |
| 17:59.22 | Macer | wow |
| 17:59.25 | Macer | nokia drive is great |
| 17:59.38 | Macer | it's not like ovi maps suckiness |
| 17:59.52 | ErwinJunge | zeq, what are your specs? |
| 17:59.54 | Macer | it's better than gnav.. you get to download the maps for free :) |
| 18:00.23 | ErwinJunge | Macer, is that on n900? |
| 18:00.30 | Macer | ErwinJunge: no. lumia 900 |
| 18:00.42 | Macer | would be nice if they had it for n900 |
| 18:00.45 | Macer | instead of lame ass ovimaps |
| 18:01.02 | Macer | i got lost a bunch of times trying to use ovimaps lol |
| 18:01.06 | ErwinJunge | Yup, that's why I asked :) |
| 18:01.19 | ErwinJunge | Never got lost, it's just a terrible ui mostly. |
| 18:01.25 | Macer | ovi maps has to be the worst i have ever used |
| 18:01.27 | Macer | yeah heh |
| 18:01.31 | zeq | ErwinJunge: various :) |
| 18:01.34 | Macer | i don't know what they were thinking with that ui |
| 18:01.56 | Macer | but nokia has nokia drive on the ms market |
| 18:02.01 | zeq | lowest I attempted was a PXA270 ;) |
| 18:02.06 | Macer | and it's awesome heh.. i'm surprised they're giving it away for free |
| 18:02.20 | Macer | i guess to compete with google and gnav.. which is awesome as well minus the need for a net connection |
| 18:02.22 | ErwinJunge | zeq, I'm on an Atom N450 powered netbook, which is the reason I never tried Gentoo. It seems prohibitively much compiletime. |
| 18:03.01 | zeq | if it's your only system, then yes, that's prohibitive |
| 18:03.30 | zeq | if you have a secondary system with some spare cycles distcc helps a lot |
| 18:03.46 | Macer | lol... i thought the point of gentoo was to make bins that were without a doubt made for your system |
| 18:03.56 | ErwinJunge | In practice it is. I also have a C2D desktop standing around, but need to be able to pack up and leave with the pc quickly, which is kind of hard with a desktop ;) |
| 18:03.58 | Macer | in order to make more efficient bins |
| 18:04.03 | zeq | distcc doesn't change that |
| 18:04.05 | Macer | seems like a moot point if you have to build everything heh |
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| 18:04.39 | zeq | you only *need* to re-emerge for security fixes |
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| 18:04.50 | Macer | all that efficiency is lost in the initial installing of apps |
| 18:04.56 | ErwinJunge | Oh, so I could farm out the compiling to my c2d? |
| 18:05.01 | Macer | it's like the ethanol of linux :) |
| 18:05.03 | zeq | invested :) |
| 18:06.58 | ErwinJunge | I guess I should dive into it again sometime. Took the time to read through the guide a while ago, but googling on "gentoo compile time on atom" turned me off to the idea ;) |
| 18:07.17 | zeq | yep, on modern laptop/desktop hw it's pretty quick to emerge most things, okay not OpenOffice... |
| 18:07.38 | ErwinJunge | Don't like or use openoffice anyway, so that's not an issue for me |
| 18:09.18 | ErwinJunge | Btw, current project (which might be of interest to some people here): porting aqualung to maemo. |
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| 18:10.53 | ErwinJunge | Which is turning out to be relatively easy. I've got an initial version working already and it's also gapless on device (hooray!). Which leaves me with two remaining issues: (1) packaging (2) porting a desktop gtk ui to hildon |
| 18:11.08 | ErwinJunge | Any good tips on either heartily appreciated btw ;) |
| 18:13.10 | zeq | has anybody ported nss_mdns to maemo? |
| 18:16.08 | ErwinJunge | apt-cache search nss-mdns |
| 18:16.09 | ErwinJunge | libnss-mdns - NSS module for Multicast DNS name resolution |
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| 18:19.35 | ErwinJunge | which is apparently in http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free |
| 18:19.50 | ErwinJunge | version 0.10-3.1maemo1 |
| 18:19.56 | ErwinJunge | Anything else you want to know? :) |
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| 18:23.51 | rZr | fyi /usr/bin/mdns-scan just built for harmattan |
| 18:23.54 | zeq | oh, wasn't there last time I checked... lets see |
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| 18:30.33 | zeq | that's funny, I must be missing a repo |
| 18:32.53 | freemangordon | Pali, ping |
| 18:33.01 | Pali | freemangordon, pong |
| 18:33.29 | freemangordon | Pali, what exactly is doing this: |
| 18:33.32 | freemangordon | twl4030_i2c_write_u8(TWL4030_CHIP_PM_MASTER, 0x02, |
| 18:33.32 | freemangordon | TWL4030_PM_MASTER_PB_CFG); |
| 18:33.42 | freemangordon | that is from u-boot rx51.c |
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| 18:36.25 | Pali | freemangordon, it enable i2c access to powerbus |
| 18:36.42 | Pali | so then we can set twl4030 regulator mode |
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| 18:45.47 | ErwinJunge | Isn't http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free the official maemo repo that should be on all devices at all times? |
| 18:47.45 | ErwinJunge | Pali, I tried backporting g-audio from 2.6.31 (first appearance) but got about 300 lines of problems when trying to compile :) Apparently, lot's of stuff changes in 3 kernel releases. Would it be a good idea to simply copy-paste the missing stuff from 2.6.31 into g-audio, or will that likely lead me nowhere? |
| 18:50.17 | zeq | I have it now. Working well :) much easier than remembering local IPv6 addresses :P |
| 18:51.35 | ErwinJunge | Haha, it definitely is :) |
| 18:51.51 | Pali | ErwinJunge, backport what is needed |
| 18:52.49 | ErwinJunge | Wouldn't that require rebuilding the kernel? I was hoping to just do this as a module. |
| 18:52.52 | vdv | anyone knows, where gtk icons stored physically? where does gtk_icon_theme_load_icon function look up? |
| 18:54.31 | ErwinJunge | vdv /usr/share/icons (I think) |
| 18:55.42 | vdv | i've checked that dir |
| 18:56.12 | vdv | icons for that concrete app are not there |
| 18:56.13 | ErwinJunge | And your problem is... |
| 18:56.15 | ErwinJunge | Ah |
| 18:56.38 | vdv | look under /opt also |
| 18:56.42 | ErwinJunge | dpkg -L packagename --> lists files installed by package |
| 18:57.05 | vdv | icons don't come with package |
| 18:57.16 | vdv | i have sources |
| 18:57.30 | vdv | they're not in source tarball too |
| 18:57.33 | ErwinJunge | ok, be more specific. what package are we talking about and what icons are you missing? |
| 18:57.47 | vdv | modest |
| 18:58.07 | vdv | i just want to know where icons are located |
| 18:58.26 | vdv | modest uses gtk_icon_theme_load_icon function |
| 18:58.33 | vdv | to fetch icons by name |
| 18:58.41 | ErwinJunge | and the name of the icon is... |
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| 18:59.12 | vdv | for example, mail_reply |
| 19:01.24 | ErwinJunge | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: /usr] > find -name '*mail*reply*' |
| 19:01.25 | ErwinJunge | ./share/icons/hicolor/48x48/hildon/email_message_reply_all.png |
| 19:01.25 | ErwinJunge | ./share/icons/hicolor/48x48/hildon/email_message_reply.png |
| 19:01.51 | ErwinJunge | Either of those fit what you mean? |
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| 19:03.29 | vdv | ah |
| 19:03.51 | vdv | file name don't correspond icon name in sources |
| 19:05.02 | vdv | ErwinJunge, thanks a lot |
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| 19:08.14 | ErwinJunge | vdv, no problem :) For future reference, the names used in the sources of modest are defined in src/hildon2/modest-icon-names.h |
| 19:08.17 | ErwinJunge | As found by: |
| 19:08.28 | ErwinJunge | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/modest/modest-3.4.8+0m5] > grep -R 'email_message_reply' * |
| 19:08.28 | ErwinJunge | src/hildon2/modest-icon-names.h:#define MODEST_TOOLBAR_ICON_REPLY"email_message_reply" |
| 19:08.28 | ErwinJunge | src/hildon2/modest-icon-names.h:#define MODEST_TOOLBAR_ICON_REPLY_ALL"email_message_reply_all" |
| 19:08.59 | vdv | ErwinJunge, there's also email_reply macro |
| 19:09.43 | ErwinJunge | grep and find are your friends in this case :) |
| 19:09.47 | vdv | ah, it's src/gtk/* |
| 19:09.51 | ErwinJunge | That's in gnome, not hildon :) |
| 19:09.56 | vdv | yep |
| 19:10.11 | vdv | my mistake |
| 19:10.22 | ErwinJunge | no problem, happy to help |
| 19:10.48 | ErwinJunge | Pali, Wouldn't that require rebuilding the kernel? I was hoping to just do this as a module. |
| 19:10.59 | Pali | maybe yes |
| 19:11.21 | Pali | if that module using something new, then you need to patch kernel |
| 19:11.43 | Pali | if not, then you maybe can compile without modifing kernel |
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| 19:13.45 | ErwinJunge | would you mind looking at my make output to see if that's the case? I don't feel comfortably patching the kernel. |
| 19:13.45 | ErwinJunge | s/comfortably/comfortable/ |
| 19:15.09 | ErwinJunge | http://pastebin.com/cFviCabj |
| 19:17.02 | Pali | seems, that you need to patch kernel |
| 19:18.20 | ErwinJunge | Well, that |
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| 19:18.49 | ErwinJunge | 's off the table then. Seems a bit too dangerous with my zero kernel-mucking experience. |
| 19:19.07 | ErwinJunge | Are you accepting feature requests in powerkernel? ;) |
| 19:22.28 | Pali | no time for backporting it |
| 19:23.02 | Pali | if sombody has time and write me patch I can include it in kernel-power |
| 19:24.30 | ErwinJunge | Alright then, was a nice idea, maybe I'll get around to it someday. How dangerous would it be? (i.e. can I permanently brick my device?) |
| 19:24.45 | Pali | what? |
| 19:29.03 | ErwinJunge | patching the kernel in an attempt to get g-audio working |
| 19:30.04 | Pali | I think that if you do not touch something crytical the worst think will be that you will need to reflash device with flasher-3.5 |
| 19:30.52 | Pali | I booted more times a lot my patches :D and my n900 is still working |
| 19:31.21 | ErwinJunge | Ok, but did you have kernel hacking experience before? |
| 19:31.22 | Pali | full reflash and external battery charger fixed all my problems |
| 19:31.40 | Pali | some yes |
| 19:32.11 | Pali | you can always test your kernel in qemu |
| 19:32.37 | Pali | so if you creating something bad it will not boot in qemu |
| 19:32.42 | ErwinJunge | Do you have a clear howto on that? |
| 19:33.05 | Pali | on what? backporting g_audio? |
| 19:33.16 | Pali | see errors from compiler |
| 19:33.28 | Pali | and see what structures was changes and how |
| 19:33.35 | ErwinJunge | no, trying the kernel on qemu :) |
| 19:33.42 | Pali | install madde |
| 19:33.50 | Pali | madde has n900 qemu image |
| 19:33.59 | Pali | create kernel deb packages |
| 19:34.08 | ErwinJunge | I can probably fix the backporting stuff, just scared to permanently destroy my device if I screw up. |
| 19:34.10 | Pali | and install it in madde qemu |
| 19:34.49 | Pali | then reboot qemu (like n900) and see if it boot again :D |
| 19:35.12 | ErwinJunge | Ok, thanks for the info. If I have some time to spare I'll probably give it a shot. |
| 19:35.14 | Pali | if not remove madde qemu image, install default and try another build :-) |
| 19:36.40 | Pali | also, in madde you need special kernel module for 3D acceleration (needed by Xserver) |
| 19:36.44 | Pali | source code are on: http://meego.gitorious.org/qemu-maemo/gles-libs/trees/master/kfgles2 |
| 19:37.05 | Pali | default madde qemu image has it for default 2.6.28 kernel |
| 19:37.34 | Pali | but if you build kernel-power, you need to recompile that module and do not remember to install it before reboot |
| 19:37.54 | Pali | without that module madde qemu image will not boot into X and hildon-desktop |
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| 19:41.54 | ErwinJunge | I guess you mean "do not forget" instead of "do not remember"? |
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| 19:47.41 | ErwinJunge | Anyway, thanks for the instructions. I copy-pasted them somewhere safe as a howto so that I can give it a shot sometime when I have more time. I'll finish porting aqualung first, since that solves 95% of my problems anyway and is a lot simpler. |
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| 20:15.43 | ErwinJunge | DocScrutinizer, Would it be possible to automatically switch PSM on/off when connecting/disconnecting a power supply? |
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| 20:16.29 | ErwinJunge | The reason I'm asking is because this is the way my laptop works and it provides the best of both worlds, great batterylife when off power and great performance when on power |
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| 20:40.24 | DocScrutinizer | ErwinJunge: hmm, quite possibly possible |
| 20:43.00 | DocScrutinizer | I'm musing along the line: 2 connection settings to same AP (one with, 1 w/o PSM=max), a dbus-script that triggers on USB/charger plug-in/out and switches connection(-priority) |
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| 20:53.24 | ErwinJunge | Something along those lines, yes. I can hack the dbus thing together in python without problems, but do the psm settings have dbus? |
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| 21:06.27 | DocScrutinizer | dbus there's dbus scripts pkg |
| 21:08.56 | DocScrutinizer | I didn't suggest to change PSM via dbus (nor any other way) - I suggested to switch from "MyAP-PSM" WLAN connection to "MyAP-USBpowered" WLAN connecton. There are methods to tell ICD2 to switch to a particular connection |
| 21:09.10 | DocScrutinizer | probably even dbus |
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| 21:21.34 | ErwinJunge | Ah, so make 2 connections for same network, one with and one without psm and switch between those. Smart. |
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| 21:52.17 | DocScrutinizer | ErwinJunge: http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/icd2/group__dbus__api.html#g2d518bd08002c0a8a92c8ba00546360f |
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| 22:03.13 | ErwinJunge | DocScrutinizer, Thanks for looking that up :) I'll see if I can hack something together based on that tomorrow. |
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| 22:05.06 | DocScrutinizer | installing dbus-script 'app', the whole thing probably consists of two dbus script files with one dbus-send cmdline each |
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