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| 00:09.43 | DocScrutinizer | ok, somebody asked me what's my next device (OWTTE) - since there's no decent successor to N900, I'll probably look into a completely different approach: google glasses |
| 00:09.56 | DocScrutinizer | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/google-begins-testing-its-augmented-reality-glasses/ |
| 00:13.10 | DocScrutinizer | I'll rather try to figure how I can live with (or counteract) loss of privacy and getting a google drone, than not exploring basically intriguing new stuff like Siri or this google AR thing |
| 00:14.51 | DocScrutinizer | s/getting/becoming/ |
| 00:14.55 | DocScrutinizer | damn, again |
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| 11:07.26 | ErwinJunge | Is there a mediaplayer for N900 that supports gapless playback and is not rockbox? I tried searching but keep turning up rockbox and really hate that UI. |
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| 11:44.34 | Macer | yeah. this damn paper trick isnt working anymore :-( |
| 11:44.45 | Macer | n900 is officially broken |
| 11:45.02 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 11:45.31 | SpeedEvil | have you tried wrapping it in a towel? |
| 11:46.02 | SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, there isn't a simple way to try to repair |
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| 11:55.34 | pcfe | DocScrutinizer: there's a pretty good chance google glasses is over hyped, maybe they found a way to get the display tech workign in real life and full field of vision without anyone noticing, and they got the power consumption under control, again without the rest of the industry catching on. But it's much more likely you'll be running around with a backpack if you want sth half working and you'll have something along the lines of VGA resolution in one corner of |
| 11:55.34 | pcfe | your field of vision/ |
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| 12:30.09 | chem|st | Macer: what is your problem about? |
| 12:32.44 | Macer | sim reader |
| 12:32.57 | Macer | keeps giving me the no sim icon |
| 12:33.07 | Macer | and sim reader keeps resetting |
| 12:35.17 | chem|st | had that but it had nothing todo with the sim reader at all, went away without doing anything to the sim or reader at all |
| 12:35.48 | chem|st | was about two weeks I got frequently an error after connecting to mobile internet services |
| 12:36.07 | SpeedEvil | I had the same issue - and it was not fixed. |
| 12:36.14 | chem|st | disconnecting it and bump no-sim |
| 12:36.47 | Macer | yes. that is what it is doing |
| 12:36.48 | chem|st | going offline mode and online again worked sometimes |
| 12:37.00 | Macer | was trying that ;-) |
| 12:37.02 | chem|st | a reboot worked every time |
| 12:37.18 | Macer | it cuts out.... comes back..... etc |
| 12:37.19 | SpeedEvil | Not here. |
| 12:37.22 | chem|st | so I doubt it is the connector but the controller |
| 12:37.25 | SpeedEvil | (reboot) |
| 12:37.26 | Macer | over and over at random times |
| 12:37.37 | Macer | usually when using the modem |
| 12:37.37 | chem|st | ok it was not random over here |
| 12:37.49 | Macer | heh |
| 12:38.03 | chem|st | switching from gsm to umts or going internet was triggering it |
| 12:38.39 | Macer | yeah |
| 12:38.57 | Macer | it happens when i access the internet via the modem |
| 12:39.01 | Macer | it is weird |
| 12:39.16 | Macer | i was going to flash it with stock maemo and see if that helps |
| 12:39.33 | Macer | at least eliminate the possible sw probability |
| 12:39.47 | Macer | if it still does it i will have to assume hw |
| 12:40.32 | chem|st | guess firmware is the issue and I doubt you will be able to go back in firmware terms |
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| 12:45.35 | Sicelo | also.. one could try `ifconfig phonet0 down` then `ifconfig phonet0 up` .. if it's not hardware, that is :) |
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| 13:13.42 | ErwinJunge | To answer my own question re gapless playback: After much more searching and trying a lot of media players, nope. Only rockbox has gapless. I should probably look into updating MAFW to support gapless... |
| 13:14.48 | tadzik | isn't mpd available? |
| 13:15.14 | tadzik | there may be no good client on maemo though |
| 13:18.07 | ErwinJunge | tadzik, exactly the other way around. mpd clients galore, but no mpd :) |
| 13:18.13 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
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| 13:19.20 | ErwinJunge | Anyways, if someone would hack gapless into mafw, all of the players that use mafw (nearly all players) would have gapless. So that's now on my todo-when-i-have-some-time list |
| 13:20.48 | tadzik | heh |
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| 14:39.45 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/nokia_earnings_ouch/ |
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| 15:39.16 | micahf | hey, is it possible to receive incoming SIP calls on an n900 while asleep, only using WIFI? |
| 15:40.49 | jpinx | is it possible to flash from a vm ? |
| 15:45.49 | jacekowski | jpinx: no |
| 15:45.56 | jacekowski | jpinx: well, kinda, but no |
| 15:46.12 | jpinx | jacekowski: expand "kinda" ? ;) |
| 15:46.57 | jacekowski | it will take you longer to set it up and it will be unreliable |
| 15:47.10 | jacekowski | than it will take you to install linux\windows or any other supported OS |
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| 15:47.54 | chem|st | micahf: yes |
| 15:48.03 | jpinx | jacekowski: I'm told that flashing from XP is not as reliable as from linux - is that right? |
| 15:48.07 | jacekowski | no |
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| 15:48.36 | chem|st | jacekowski: sometimes usb enumeration does funny things... |
| 15:48.40 | micahf | chem|st that's exciting, i just ordered an n900 and am trying an experiment to use only SIP over city-wide wifi |
| 15:48.42 | jacekowski | coldflashing is bit of a problem because device only appears for like 3s which is less time than it takes for windows to enumerate and install drivers for the first time |
| 15:48.47 | chem|st | jpinx: win7 has some issues afair |
| 15:48.51 | jacekowski | but normal flashing isn't a problem |
| 15:49.04 | jacekowski | apparently there is some funny stuff happening on 64bits but that's on linux and windows |
| 15:49.19 | chem|st | jacekowski: never had those issues on linux |
| 15:49.56 | chem|st | micahf: would love to have city-wide-wifi over here^^ |
| 15:50.05 | jpinx | Hmmm - think I'll reboot into debian ;) thanks jacekowski chem|st :) |
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| 15:50.38 | micahf | it's been something of a dream for a while to ditch mobile providers for the local wifi! |
| 15:50.48 | chem|st | micahf: SIP skype jabber, anything you like even msn calling |
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| 15:53.41 | micahf | what do you suppose the battery will act like with SIP always waiting for calls over wifi? |
| 15:53.58 | micahf | i might need to get one of those solar chargers :D |
| 15:54.30 | jpinx | micahf: on wifi I get about 6 hours |
| 15:54.55 | micahf | jpinx: and that's part of the time using it and part time standby? |
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| 15:55.44 | jpinx | wifi on seems to use a lot |
| 15:56.57 | chem|st | jpinx: depends, the 6 hours I get is with skype logged in |
| 15:57.09 | jpinx | micahf: gprs on <3G also uses a lot - I can not get through a day |
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| 15:57.21 | chem|st | pure wifi on gsm/umts off lasts alot longer |
| 15:57.44 | jpinx | chem|st: skype munches bandwidth, cpucycles, batteries, your lunch,,,,,, |
| 15:57.51 | micahf | maybe i'll try and get a 2400 mAh battery |
| 15:58.05 | chem|st | jpinx: do not forget your first born son |
| 15:58.17 | micahf | man, it must have munched mine before it was ever even born! |
| 15:58.24 | micahf | bummer |
| 15:58.33 | jpinx | micahf: I have a little external battery pack with 2 x AA in it - that gets me through |
| 15:58.52 | micahf | that's a good idea |
| 15:58.57 | jpinx | and I turn skype off ;) |
| 15:59.12 | chem|st | some sacrifices you have to make to have 24/7 mobileSIP! |
| 15:59.30 | micahf | i think they'll be worth it! |
| 15:59.54 | chem|st | they are! |
| 15:59.55 | micahf | i can always just put it in airplane mode and get some away time |
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| 16:00.03 | chem|st | sure |
| 16:00.21 | chem|st | and anywhere you have USB you have a charger! |
| 16:00.28 | micahf | maybe i'll write a python script or something that does scheduled away time |
| 16:00.47 | micahf | yes USB is easy to find! |
| 16:00.50 | chem|st | or buy a solarbattery^^ $40... 2000mAh |
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| 16:01.28 | jpinx | micahf: I'm out in the sticks - the battery pack was my best option with rechargeable AA's |
| 16:01.34 | chem|st | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/c5a7/?srp=4 |
| 16:02.04 | micahf | thats pretty nice |
| 16:02.08 | jpinx | micahf: there are single AAA external packs - but be warned - they are not enough ;) |
| 16:02.16 | micahf | i see |
| 16:02.25 | jpinx | I mean AA -- no AAA |
| 16:02.49 | micahf | yeah, you're saying go with the AA's, the AAA's aren't big enough |
| 16:03.31 | jpinx | yes - and go for 2 AA's -- not a single one |
| 16:03.44 | DocScrutinizer | ooh mo bile SIP |
| 16:04.02 | micahf | yes! isn't it exciting? |
| 16:04.46 | DocScrutinizer | on all the standby time figures I posted for/from my device last month+ I always forgot to mention I had not only IRC but also SIP active |
| 16:04.49 | jpinx | micahf: and also nte that the recharge rate is slow, so it's best to actually have the ext power plugged in while the phone is on |
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| 16:05.29 | micahf | DocScrutinizer: where are those? |
| 16:05.46 | DocScrutinizer | in chanlog? |
| 16:06.09 | lartza_ | I've noticed that jabber doesn't take bandwidth at all after tuning /usr/share/osso-rtcom/jabber.profile keepalive |
| 16:06.43 | DocScrutinizer | meh, keepalive is zarro bandwitz |
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| 16:07.37 | DocScrutinizer | it's just frequent, and that is going to kill your standby time |
| 16:07.39 | Macer | OK |
| 16:07.44 | Macer | got my lumia 900 :) |
| 16:07.45 | Macer | lol |
| 16:07.46 | DocScrutinizer | when on GSM/3G |
| 16:07.51 | chem|st | lartza_: SIP and jabber are both pretty well on interrupts and wakeups |
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| 16:08.18 | chem|st | Macer: you wont save nokia with supporting windows phones... |
| 16:08.37 | lartza_ | DocScrutinizer: yeah I thought increasing the keepalive made it less frequent |
| 16:08.51 | chem|st | Macer: what do you want for your n900? |
| 16:08.52 | lartza_ | increasing standby time |
| 16:09.36 | lartza_ | anyway skype eats the battery in less than a day, jabber can stay online for 2-3 days |
| 16:09.48 | chem|st | lartza_: so does SIP |
| 16:10.35 | micahf | DocScritinizer: so there are ways to optimize? |
| 16:11.50 | chem|st | micahf: SIP is quiet good itself |
| 16:12.13 | chem|st | skype and msn are a nightmare |
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| 16:13.49 | micahf | yeah i only plan on using SIP really. it'd be nice if i could receive sms messages |
| 16:14.24 | Macer | chem|st: lol |
| 16:14.35 | Macer | chem|st: i won't save nokia doing anything ;) they'll have to save themselves |
| 16:14.36 | chem|st | Macer: what? I am serious! |
| 16:14.41 | Macer | but jesus.. att was almost giving them away |
| 16:14.53 | Macer | 100 off your first bill.. 100 free accessories... 99 for thephone |
| 16:15.32 | micahf | DocScrutinizer: so basically you're saying that there are ways to optimize how often the antenna is used? |
| 16:15.42 | Macer | chem|st: i don't know. how much will you pay for an n900 with a broken sim reader? |
| 16:15.50 | Macer | the more tech savvy might want to see if they can fix it |
| 16:16.08 | micahf | Macer or they won't use sim, they'll use SIP :D |
| 16:16.11 | chem|st | Macer: that's the only way to sell crap shit, in europe there is still no market for lumias at all |
| 16:16.12 | Macer | lol |
| 16:16.21 | Macer | chem|st: it is nice ;) |
| 16:16.24 | Macer | i'm using it now |
| 16:16.30 | Macer | hey... the interface is better than maemo :-P |
| 16:16.36 | Macer | only thing it's missing is xterm :( |
| 16:17.04 | chem|st | Macer: I read reviews like 'nice for a day or two then I moved back to my old phone and sold it' |
| 16:17.53 | chem|st | bb |
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| 16:19.53 | Macer | LOL |
| 16:19.53 | chem|st | mailinglist sounds like nokia is interested in reviving maemo... |
| 16:19.59 | micahf | what's the lumia like? |
| 16:20.01 | Macer | chem|st: if you say so |
| 16:20.11 | Macer | i don't judge based on others ;) |
| 16:20.35 | chem|st | nokia offering developer N9s to push Qt... |
| 16:20.47 | Macer | heh |
| 16:20.51 | Macer | how is the n9 doing in europe? |
| 16:21.14 | chem|st | n9 sold more than all lumia together |
| 16:21.19 | chem|st | more often |
| 16:21.23 | chem|st | sry |
| 16:22.42 | micahf | lumia is a windows phone? |
| 16:22.45 | chem|st | nokia was blaming the nokia stores presenting the lumias wrong |
| 16:22.48 | chem|st | micahf: yes |
| 16:22.53 | micahf | bummer |
| 16:23.00 | chem|st | micahf: 2nd |
| 16:23.10 | micahf | sounds like a sad day for everyone :( |
| 16:23.42 | micahf | (i'm just jk, some people like windows and that's alright) |
| 16:23.54 | chem|st | well nokia lost 980mEUR over the last 3 month NSE lost 1bEUR though... |
| 16:24.03 | micahf | that's a lot! |
| 16:24.13 | chem|st | 66% market loss in china |
| 16:24.15 | micahf | i am still using a nokia 6260 with symbian |
| 16:24.31 | micahf | oh wait, that's not right |
| 16:24.39 | micahf | 6620 |
| 16:24.51 | micahf | http://www.redwoodsoft.com/~dru/tech/Nokia_6620.jpg |
| 16:24.55 | micahf | pretty amazing phone |
| 16:25.41 | joga | looks like soap |
| 16:26.10 | micahf | haha |
| 16:26.13 | micahf | good point |
| 16:26.18 | joga | I once had a nearly similar one but different model, more rectangular frame |
| 16:26.19 | Macer | haha |
| 16:26.21 | micahf | well mine could use some soap |
| 16:26.25 | Macer | chem|st: well they are selling out in the states |
| 16:26.35 | Macer | and lord knows we have far more debt to work with than eu when buying shit we can't afford :) |
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| 16:26.56 | Macer | look at our awesome 14T govt debt |
| 16:26.58 | Macer | (high fives) |
| 16:27.02 | Macer | thank god we have tanks |
| 16:27.08 | micahf | (high five!) |
| 16:27.17 | micahf | our police departments have tanks |
| 16:27.32 | Macer | wow really? |
| 16:27.33 | micahf | the pentagon has a program to give police departments tanks for free! |
| 16:27.34 | micahf | yes |
| 16:27.38 | Macer | soviet russia? :) |
| 16:27.41 | tadzik | water tanks, maybe ;) |
| 16:27.54 | micahf | well yes, amphibious tanks |
| 16:28.00 | tadzik | even better |
| 16:28.19 | micahf | http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-05/news/30476833_1_armored-vehicles-military-equipment-police-forces |
| 16:28.54 | Macer | i sure wish this damn ms phone had the ability to use integrated gtalk tho |
| 16:28.57 | Macer | that is a drawback |
| 16:29.05 | Macer | but one i can live with |
| 16:29.17 | joga | hmm...no upgrade path from mango to apollo eh |
| 16:29.23 | tadzik | Macer: no xmpp client? |
| 16:29.30 | Macer | tadzik: i got one from teh market |
| 16:29.32 | joga | (http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/17/2956439/windows-phone-8-apollo-no-upgrade) |
| 16:29.34 | tadzik | I see |
| 16:29.38 | Macer | well.. not a xmpp client |
| 16:29.44 | Macer | a gtalk only client |
| 16:29.48 | Macer | but i'm sure there are jabber ones out there |
| 16:29.53 | Macer | i just didn't bother |
| 16:29.56 | tadzik | gtalk only smells fishy to me |
| 16:30.05 | tadzik | but sounds good enough if that's what you use it for anyway |
| 16:30.34 | Macer | heh |
| 16:30.36 | Macer | it's IM |
| 16:30.38 | Macer | :-P |
| 16:30.48 | Macer | i just wish they all used jabber/xmpp |
| 16:30.53 | Macer | so they would all work together |
| 16:31.04 | tadzik | well, gtalk is just xmpp |
| 16:31.06 | Macer | but they're trying to hold on with a firm grip to their lame ass IM protocols |
| 16:31.14 | Macer | to keep their cutomer base? |
| 16:31.16 | Macer | lol |
| 16:32.23 | tadzik | it makes no sense to me either. But I can see their reasoning, as in "if they want to chat with facepalm users, make them do it via facepalm only" |
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| 16:53.16 | DocScrutinizer | micahf: I haven't "optimized" anyrhing for SIP, au contraire. I've set keepalive to "by REGISTER" and "120s" |
| 16:53.44 | micahf | hm |
| 16:53.49 | micahf | by register? |
| 16:57.48 | micahf | i've been reading about anveo as an SIP provider |
| 16:57.53 | micahf | it's looking pretty good |
| 16:58.17 | micahf | text messages are 4 pennies each, which really isn't bad. |
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| 16:59.35 | micahf | it could definitely add up though |
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| 17:53.10 | narcos | Hey all! |
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| 18:09.26 | demute | if your Nokia N900 broke today what phone would you buy? |
| 18:11.54 | tadzik | some cheap HTC I guess |
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| 18:23.22 | jaska | some featurephone |
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| 19:01.14 | narcos | Hi all. I'm trying to compile a custom power kernel. To that end, I'm trying to get scratchbox going with the nokia binaries by following http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Maemo_5_SDK_installation_for_beginners |
| 19:01.52 | narcos | At the point where I open scratchbox with /scratchbox/login, the guide tells me to enter 'sb-conf se FREMANTLE_ARMEL' |
| 19:02.12 | narcos | But I get the error of "sbrsh-conf: No such target" |
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| 19:02.53 | narcos | It seems maybe I need to create the target first, so I run sb-menu and select "Setup a target" |
| 19:03.06 | narcos | and then select new |
| 19:03.24 | narcos | I guess I should enter the name as "FREMANTLE_ARMEL" |
| 19:03.42 | narcos | but then I am unsure of what compiler to select |
| 19:03.56 | narcos | cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 or cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486 or host-gcc |
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| 19:04.11 | narcos | I guess the arm7, right? Since I want to compile for the arm processor on the phone |
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| 20:53.06 | vizzy | great, i must be blind or nowhere is mentioned that the maemo sdk installer only works with squeeze withour errors. argh. |
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| 22:45.28 | merlin1991 | vizzy: prefered install method is manual anyway |
| 22:45.36 | merlin1991 | the sdk installer is known to go foobar |
| 22:45.50 | vizzy | merlin1991, yes, seems so |
| 22:46.33 | vizzy | i tried a few days long on a lenny box, again and again. then i mentioned that the most important information is at bottom of the wiki page, the manual install |
| 22:46.45 | vizzy | i switched to a lenny virtualbox session and all went fine |
| 22:47.48 | vizzy | now i set up a squeeze box on an old pentium 700 laptop ..... still installing |
| 22:48.24 | merlin1991 | btw if you already have a setup you can shortcut the procedure |
| 22:48.42 | vizzy | how? |
| 22:48.42 | merlin1991 | install the scratchbox packages only |
| 22:48.55 | merlin1991 | run the unmount command on your original install |
| 22:49.02 | merlin1991 | and scp the maemo targets over |
| 22:49.31 | vizzy | problem on the p800 is, its outside in the garden, connected to internet via gprs and accessible through vpn only... which is really slow, hehe |
| 22:49.50 | merlin1991 | get it in? :D |
| 22:50.06 | vizzy | so i attach to a screen session every few hours and see if it still downloads |
| 22:50.28 | vizzy | merlin1991, no, i cant, its used as a weatherstation, i just hijacked it... hehe |
| 22:50.34 | merlin1991 | lol |
| 22:50.41 | merlin1991 | get a cable out there? |
| 22:51.00 | vizzy | no way, its 5km from here, hehe |
| 22:51.08 | merlin1991 | ah okay xD |
| 22:51.28 | merlin1991 | btw you can also add harmattan targets ;) |
| 22:51.38 | vizzy | harmattan? |
| 22:51.45 | vizzy | something like hathor? *g |
| 22:51.53 | merlin1991 | as in maemo6 (n9) |
| 22:51.57 | vizzy | ah |
| 22:52.12 | vizzy | my intention is to compile tincd vpn for the n900 |
| 22:52.18 | merlin1991 | ah :D |
| 22:52.34 | merlin1991 | I've got a setup here with harmattan, and 2 seperate maemo targets xD |
| 22:52.35 | vizzy | so, if i got it installed, i still need to know where to start |
| 22:52.45 | merlin1991 | /scratchbox/login |
| 22:52.47 | merlin1991 | and compile |
| 22:52.48 | merlin1991 | ;) |
| 22:53.06 | vizzy | is it like ...erm... on a normal linux box, set up source, configure, compile static, make a tgz and it will run on the n900 ? |
| 22:53.09 | vizzy | ah ok :) |
| 22:53.53 | vizzy | i did lfs a long time, and updated a rh7 box for 10 years from sources but never crosscompiled anything |
| 22:53.55 | merlin1991 | and you only have to compile static what isn't in the n900 (or deploy the libraries) |
| 22:54.10 | merlin1991 | scratchbox does all the work for you |
| 22:54.25 | vizzy | merlin1991, thats the question, tincd would be depending on some libs, like at least libopenssl |
| 22:54.54 | merlin1991 | btw you can install package into the scratchbox (when you're logged in) |
| 22:54.54 | vizzy | its a very small vpn tool, but great, runs on my openwrt wifi-3g router |
| 22:55.06 | vizzy | hmm, i never did a deb package before |
| 22:55.18 | merlin1991 | so libs that aren't on device but in extras can be used aswell inside scratchbox |
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| 22:56.06 | merlin1991 | hm I wonder if libopenssl is in there: http://maemo.org/packages/view/openssl/ |
| 22:56.30 | merlin1991 | because that would be avaiable inside scratchbox from the beginning |
| 22:56.40 | vizzy | is there a good howto on how to make packages for the n900 from a non debian source package? |
| 22:56.57 | merlin1991 | you can just run make / configure inside scratchbox |
| 22:57.02 | merlin1991 | and copy the resulting binary |
| 22:57.13 | vizzy | ok |
| 22:57.24 | merlin1991 | or you can go the long way and properly debianize the source |
| 22:57.29 | vizzy | i know how to do that :)) |
| 22:57.34 | merlin1991 | (which in the end would call configure and make anyway) |
| 22:57.36 | vizzy | oh no please no debianizing |
| 22:57.44 | vizzy | thats a long way |
| 22:57.57 | merlin1991 | nah it's 1 command and a lil bit of config editing |
| 22:58.03 | vizzy | i read through the docu mentioned at the end of the maemo sdk howto, but it dont gets clear to me |
| 22:58.09 | vizzy | hmm |
| 22:58.25 | vizzy | merlin1991, i'll come up with that if its compiled |
| 22:58.37 | vizzy | but, hmm, there is a deb src package for tinc already |
| 22:58.41 | vizzy | maybe just using that |
| 22:58.49 | vizzy | should have all deps then |
| 22:59.08 | vizzy | but im always confused about debianizing things |
| 22:59.22 | merlin1991 | debhelper was a bitch |
| 22:59.48 | merlin1991 | and sadly the maemo sdk still creates the old confusing rules file even though the debhelper inside scratchbox properly builds new packages |
| 23:00.02 | merlin1991 | s/new/new as in done the new way/ |
| 23:00.48 | vizzy | ok, so just copy the binary and maybe libs to a proper place |
| 23:00.54 | merlin1991 | if the makefile is in place you often only have to drop the default rules file, write a changelog entry and put a little mumbojumbo into the controls file |
| 23:01.01 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 23:01.38 | vizzy | woah, vpn through tcpip and gprs is really slow, its still downloading some packages etc |
| 23:01.49 | vizzy | ill fire up my vbox instead. |
| 23:02.56 | vizzy | merlin1991, so installing e.g. missing libopenssl will work as usual in scratchbox as on my n900? apt-get install something inside scratchbox armel target and then compile? |
| 23:03.03 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 23:03.07 | vizzy | i cant elieve, must try it out now :D |
| 23:03.23 | merlin1991 | and it looks like the debian tinc package depends on libssl |
| 23:03.29 | merlin1991 | which actually is part of the sdk |
| 23:03.34 | vizzy | ah cool |
| 23:04.06 | vizzy | so i ll get a coffee now and start my first contribution to the n900 :D |
| 23:04.06 | merlin1991 | and liblzo and zlib should be there aswell |
| 23:04.31 | merlin1991 | the only problem you might run into using the debian source package is the init script |
| 23:04.38 | merlin1991 | maemo uses "something" |
| 23:04.56 | vizzy | i may ask you some more question maybe lateron , hehe |
| 23:05.10 | vizzy | yeah, tinc is best started in an xterm i guess |
| 23:05.52 | vizzy | i didnt find out yet, and did not dig into it very much, how maemo starts apps at boottime |
| 23:05.58 | merlin1991 | upstart |
| 23:06.27 | merlin1991 | and I have nfc how to write upstart init scripts xD |
| 23:07.56 | vizzy | nfc? |
| 23:08.49 | merlin1991 | no fucking clue |
| 23:09.41 | merlin1991 | even though that near field commusomething seems to be the stuff cool kids do nowadays we still use nfc with the old meaning in here :D |
| 23:10.50 | ThreeM | hrhr |
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| 23:12.57 | ThreeM | bäh have to update all openssl installations on my machines :/ |
| 23:13.00 | ThreeM | again |
| 23:13.14 | ThreeM | damn bugs |
| 23:14.56 | vizzy | merlin1991, like ftw :)) |
| 23:15.22 | merlin1991 | ThreeM: scared of the newly detected attack vectors? |
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| 23:16.14 | ThreeM | im not, my boss are scared :) |
| 23:16.42 | ThreeM | i have better things to do instead of updating debian machines at 01:16 |
| 23:18.04 | ThreeM | http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2012-April/086585.html |
| 23:18.24 | merlin1991 | yeah I was refering to that |
| 23:18.37 | ThreeM | i must block these in the firewall, so my boss could check new issues ;) |
| 23:19.00 | merlin1991 | now I need some paper so I can start playing legend of grimrock |
| 23:19.05 | merlin1991 | Oldschool mode ftw |
| 23:19.14 | ThreeM | but i think its hard to do a exploit on that remoty |
| 23:19.30 | merlin1991 | depends |
| 23:19.37 | merlin1991 | I think you could attack openvpn servers |
| 23:19.57 | ThreeM | maybe |
| 23:20.32 | ThreeM | but im happy that this is no certificate issue :) |
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| 23:23.02 | vizzy | ouch, hehe, cannot finish sdk install on vbox, disk full *gg |
| 23:23.28 | vizzy | is it save to unmount / stop scratchbox and move the directory to e.g. /home/scratchbox and make a symlink on / ? |
| 23:24.20 | vizzy | but i guess a fresh install is faster than moving 100k+ files in a vm :)) |
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| 23:27.40 | merlin1991 | vizzy: I even have a different mount on /scratchbox in order to have enough space :D |
| 23:29.04 | merlin1991 | fu legends of grimrock |
| 23:29.26 | merlin1991 | 10 mins into the game and I'm reaching the top end of my paper |
| 23:29.56 | ThreeM | hrhr |
| 23:30.23 | ThreeM | "Auto"-Mapping? |
| 23:30.28 | merlin1991 | disabled |
| 23:30.35 | merlin1991 | on purpose |
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| 23:30.39 | merlin1991 | oldschool mode :D |
| 23:32.25 | ThreeM | hehe |
| 23:33.13 | ThreeM | maybe i have to look into the game, but im busy with Skyrim |
| 23:33.38 | merlin1991 | Skyrim is so bad, the eldar scrolls series had way better gayms |
| 23:33.40 | merlin1991 | *games* |
| 23:33.51 | ThreeM | hmm i like it |
| 23:34.07 | ThreeM | but its true, its more action based then the other elder scrools games |
| 23:34.16 | vizzy | merlin1991, yeah, ill set up a new vhdd and mount it under /scratchbox and move files |
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