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| 00:50.17 | Macer | ok |
| 00:50.19 | Macer | no offense but |
| 00:50.33 | Macer | i have to admit i want a nokia windows phone after seeing that commercial lol |
| 00:50.43 | Macer | THE BETA TEST IS OVER!! |
| 00:50.44 | Macer | hahahaha |
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| 05:48.41 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/16/moodys_downgrade_nokia_junk/ |
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| 05:58.38 | slonopotamus | ruskie: it was obvious from the very beginning that going with windows will lead to a dead end, sooner or later |
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| 07:49.57 | Sicelo | hmm, |
| 07:50.24 | Sicelo | can someone paste me their /etc/sudoers.d/01sudo file |
| 07:53.12 | Macer | damnit |
| 07:53.20 | Macer | my damn n900 keeps disconnecting the sim for some reason |
| 07:53.36 | Macer | now i really screwed it up trying to fix it.. i somehow managed to wipe the kernel without having the original install |
| 07:54.08 | Macer | i hope it is some awkward cssu bug and not a hardware issue |
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| 07:54.20 | Macer | but considering i have been running cssu for weeks and really haven't changed the phone much it is looking grim :( |
| 07:54.27 | Macer | i should rma it for an e7 :) |
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| 07:58.49 | SpeedEvil | You get 'sim error' messages? |
| 08:00.47 | Macer | no |
| 08:00.57 | Macer | i get the sim not there icon |
| 08:01.01 | Macer | then it comes back |
| 08:01.05 | Macer | then goes away.. then comes back |
| 08:01.11 | Macer | it seems once i try to use the modem it dies |
| 08:01.14 | Macer | then comes back :) |
| 08:01.20 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 08:01.30 | Macer | yeah.. that's exactly how i felt |
| 08:01.36 | SpeedEvil | Is the battery a bit dodgy? |
| 08:01.43 | Macer | i swapped batteries |
| 08:01.46 | Macer | but the last one was |
| 08:01.49 | Macer | came with a wall charger |
| 08:02.02 | Macer | i used the nokia battery and still have issues |
| 08:02.05 | SpeedEvil | But more likely I'd say it's a not uncommon fault. :/ |
| 08:02.25 | Macer | well... hopefully it isn't damaged hardware |
| 08:02.30 | Macer | but so far it seems that way |
| 08:02.37 | Macer | i tried an att sim and had the same problem |
| 08:02.43 | Macer | so it isn't the sim or tmobile |
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| 10:52.08 | DocScrutinizer | sounds like the "high hill effect" |
| 10:52.52 | DocScrutinizer | when device tries to associate to a BTS that's way too far away |
| 10:55.16 | DocScrutinizer | but also may be: poor location (device has not enough power to reach BTS); BTS occupied; roaming error; antenna semi-defect; battery weak (too high impedance); modem defect |
| 10:55.53 | DocScrutinizer | interference on upstream band |
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| 11:05.06 | DocScrutinizer | even wrong band (850MHz for a 900MHz device) may cause such issues |
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| 11:50.32 | DocScrutinizer | [general notice] There will be a Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) at 15:00 UTC on Tuesday April 17. <http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html> |
| 11:52.51 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: ^^^ |
| 11:53.17 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: (you're chan owner, so it would help to have you around ;-D) |
| 11:53.37 | SD69 | thanks Doc |
| 11:53.41 | DocScrutinizer | YW |
| 11:54.17 | DocScrutinizer | I'd add a logbot if any of the chanops would allow me to |
| 11:54.51 | DocScrutinizer | alas it seems none of the chanops is even aware there's some pending activity over there |
| 11:56.48 | DocScrutinizer | I'm tempted to do it nevertheless if none of the chanops is vetoing until 15min before meeting |
| 11:57.37 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: PING |
| 11:57.54 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa_: PING |
| 11:58.01 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa_: ^^^ |
| 11:59.06 | DocScrutinizer | ghjgfjghjbn: do you really like this nick? |
| 11:59.33 | teotwaki | DocScrutinizer: take a chill pill |
| 12:00.12 | DocScrutinizer | teotwaki: wut? I'm hoping coffee eventualy kicks in, half asleep ;-) |
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| 12:02.01 | DocScrutinizer | so you might argue coffee is the chill pill of my choice. Actually it seems all such "drugs" work paradox for me |
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| 12:15.25 | DocScrutinizer | SD69: you might want to ask X-Fade to moderate the meeting, I seem to not get past his ignore list |
| 12:15.42 | DocScrutinizer | he's active this very moment on #harmattan |
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| 12:16.29 | SD69 | DocScrutinizer: I think Council will moderate the meeting |
| 12:16.37 | DocScrutinizer | and he's chanowner of #maemo-meeting, so the only one who can do proper moderation |
| 12:17.04 | DocScrutinizer | SD69: so please council update #maemo-meeting /topic ;-D |
| 12:17.42 | SD69 | ahh |
| 12:17.48 | DocScrutinizer | this should be done *now*, not halfway into actual meeting |
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| 12:19.55 | DocScrutinizer | SD69: adding a logbot shuld also be finished before meeting starts, I need permission of *chanop* to do this |
| 12:20.28 | SD69 | sure, let's hope momcilo updates it |
| 12:20.42 | DocScrutinizer | (well, not really. But that's best practice) |
| 12:20.54 | DocScrutinizer | who's momcilo? |
| 12:21.05 | Sicelo | lol |
| 12:21.10 | DocScrutinizer | he's not on #maemo-meeting accesslist |
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| 12:21.36 | Sicelo | momcilo is in current council |
| 12:21.43 | DocScrutinizer | /ms chanserv access #maemo-meeting list |
| 12:22.01 | DocScrutinizer | /msg even |
| 12:22.13 | Sicelo | yeah, i noticed |
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| 12:23.49 | DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest X-Fade adds somebody to access list who will take care, though I know he won't accept at least me for that |
| 12:24.19 | teotwaki | Why? |
| 12:25.22 | DocScrutinizer | same reason he ignores all my direct pings to him |
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| 12:25.43 | DocScrutinizer | I'm bitching too much about aegis |
| 12:25.57 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
| 12:26.47 | DocScrutinizer | and I even started that before we had access to any actual aegis implementation |
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| 12:28.07 | DocScrutinizer | the general tale back when been "let's wait and see what it actually will bring us" - I always begged to differ |
| 12:29.05 | Termana | I just think you need to give it a bit more time to grow on you |
| 12:29.10 | Termana | .......... :p |
| 12:29.16 | DocScrutinizer | hahahahaha |
| 12:29.21 | DocScrutinizer | good one, Termana |
| 12:31.17 | DocScrutinizer | well, I know how I get beyond his /ignore |
| 12:31.35 | *** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 12:32.26 | *** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer -> Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | There will be a Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) at 15:00 UTC on Tuesday April 17. <http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html> |
| 12:32.37 | *** mode/#maemo [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
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| 12:37.01 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer is our little devil, lol |
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| 12:37.01 | Sicelo | ;) j/k |
| 12:37.02 | DocScrutinizer | >:-D |
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| 12:39.19 | Macer | crap |
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| 12:39.20 | Macer | i need to flash a kernel on this damn thing now :/ |
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| 12:39.32 | Macer | i guess removing the power kernel from pkg manager is not a good thing to do |
| 12:39.52 | Macer | i sure hope this is a software problem with teh sim but i am doubting it |
| 12:40.01 | Macer | i think something got messed up in the phone somehow :( |
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| 12:40.33 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: \o/ |
| 12:40.42 | DocScrutinizer | see /topic! |
| 12:40.51 | javispedro | ECHAN ;P |
| 12:41.47 | Macer | what''s the council meeting about? |
| 12:42.18 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: oops, actually, errno=0, apologies |
| 12:42.34 | DocScrutinizer | haha |
| 12:42.45 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: see ML link |
| 12:43.36 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: you may ask x-fade to update the /topic in #maemo-meeting |
| 12:44.00 | ShadowJK | macer: "disconnecting the sim" = crossed out sim icon in status area? "dmesg" to pastebin after it happens plz |
| 12:44.59 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: +1 :-) |
| 12:45.53 | javispedro | Macer: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html |
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| 12:50.52 | Macer | ShadowJK: yes |
| 12:51.02 | Macer | sorry i already ruined the kernel |
| 12:51.11 | Macer | i have to flash a new kernel to it |
| 12:51.36 | Macer | i don't get an error.. i just keep getting the no sim icon over and over |
| 12:51.57 | Macer | it was driving me nuts.. and i thought it may have something to do with the power kernel.. tried removing it and removed it without installing the stock kernel heh |
| 12:54.00 | Macer | ShadowJK: is this a known problem? |
| 12:54.04 | Macer | or is it my hardware going bad? |
| 12:54.10 | ShadowJK | yes |
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| 12:55.04 | Macer | yes to known problem? |
| 12:55.09 | Macer | or bad hardware? :) |
| 12:55.24 | ShadowJK | yes :) |
| 12:55.30 | ShadowJK | get a dmesg |
| 12:55.31 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 12:55.33 | Macer | hahaha |
| 12:55.37 | Macer | well.. that sucks :) |
| 12:55.47 | Macer | ok... i will flash it in a minute |
| 12:55.50 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: move to another BTS cell |
| 12:55.59 | Macer | BTS cell? |
| 12:56.07 | DocScrutinizer | "tower" |
| 12:56.11 | Macer | i did already |
| 12:56.17 | DocScrutinizer | ooh :-/ |
| 12:56.22 | Macer | i actually swapped an att sim into it |
| 12:56.28 | Macer | i mean it won't wrok 3G but it will still work |
| 12:56.32 | Macer | and it had the same problem |
| 12:56.37 | DocScrutinizer | dang |
| 12:56.42 | Macer | someone lent me their att sim |
| 12:56.42 | DocScrutinizer | sounds like hw |
| 12:56.46 | Macer | yeah :/ |
| 12:56.54 | Macer | i'm going to flash it and see if it persists |
| 12:57.01 | Macer | if it doesn't then i'm blaming cssu :-P |
| 12:57.02 | Macer | lol |
| 12:57.04 | Macer | but i doubt it |
| 12:57.12 | Macer | i was using it for weeks with the version of cssu running on it |
| 12:57.15 | DocScrutinizer | cssu is innocent |
| 12:57.19 | Macer | i know.. i was joking |
| 12:57.37 | Macer | i had cssu on it for a while.. this problem just ... started.. weird |
| 12:57.44 | Macer | and it's made in finland |
| 12:57.50 | Macer | guess i can't blame asia anymore :/ |
| 12:57.53 | ghostcube | Macer: with no support, but you could try to bend the sim pins a bit |
| 12:57.59 | ghostcube | i had this issue too and it worked |
| 12:58.01 | ShadowJK | It's likely hw failure. I've had two N900s fail that way. The output of dmesg would confirm |
| 12:58.13 | Macer | ShadowJK: doh :) |
| 12:58.19 | Macer | what would i be looking for in dmesg? |
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| 12:58.34 | Macer | "Kernel panic.... sim fail" |
| 12:58.35 | Macer | heh |
| 12:59.23 | ShadowJK | CMT rst |
| 12:59.26 | ShadowJK | iirc |
| 13:00.07 | StyXman | EMP |
| 13:00.18 | ShadowJK | bbiab. Need to go pick up lightbulbs for car so it'll pass mot. |
| 13:00.27 | Macer | ghostcube: i sure hope it is something that simple ;) |
| 13:00.51 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: hardly |
| 13:00.53 | ghostcube | its just happening if the phone falls down or something like this |
| 13:01.00 | ghostcube | just pull the cover and battery out |
| 13:01.05 | ghostcube | open sim card holder |
| 13:01.15 | ghostcube | and be soft to the pins |
| 13:01.18 | ghostcube | dont bend them to hard |
| 13:01.26 | DocScrutinizer | but a close inspection of SIM holder and esp contacts there can't hurt (unless you break the contacts while bending them) |
| 13:01.37 | Macer | i already did ;) |
| 13:01.48 | ghostcube | DocScrutinizer: worked for me several times so far |
| 13:01.49 | Macer | not break them |
| 13:01.52 | Macer | bent them upwards |
| 13:01.59 | ghostcube | Macer: yep |
| 13:02.01 | Termana | Either the N900 was not built to last or you guys are just extremely rough with it :p USB ports falling out, SIM hardware failures. Those poor N900s. Mine just got chucked in a sink, ended it pretty quickly. |
| 13:02.16 | Macer | Termana: food processor |
| 13:02.17 | Macer | ? |
| 13:02.18 | ghostcube | my usb port is not a problem so far |
| 13:02.31 | ghostcube | just the sim detection fails sometimes |
| 13:02.36 | Termana | Macer, will it blend? |
| 13:02.47 | Termana | Made in Finland. Definitely blends |
| 13:02.50 | Macer | haha |
| 13:02.55 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: I was about to type just that ;-D |
| 13:03.08 | DocScrutinizer | err Termana |
| 13:03.45 | Termana | mmm? |
| 13:03.50 | DocScrutinizer | well, oxidized/stained/dirty contacts on SIM holder are not that uncommon |
| 13:04.02 | DocScrutinizer | Termana: (does it blend) |
| 13:04.03 | Macer | have to swap over to a pc |
| 13:04.04 | Macer | brb |
| 13:04.30 | Termana | OH. OH. YOU WANT ME TO SEE WEATHER MINE BLENDS? |
| 13:04.54 | DocScrutinizer | for cleaning contacts you either use a paper business card without varnish (raw paper) |
| 13:04.58 | Termana | I don't have a blender. Sorry. |
| 13:05.19 | StyXman | Termana: hand blender? |
| 13:05.40 | DocScrutinizer | or a rubber eraser, the hard type that has fine sand in it - only for really heavy stains though |
| 13:05.52 | StyXman | notices that he doesn't know appliance's names in english |
| 13:05.58 | DocScrutinizer | usually the 'blue' type |
| 13:06.32 | Macer | alrighty |
| 13:06.46 | Macer | where is the wiki on how to flash power kernel to the phone? |
| 13:06.47 | Macer | :) |
| 13:06.49 | Termana | StyXman, no hand blender either. I have a whisk. Maybe I can start a new series - will it whisk and brown in the oven |
| 13:08.10 | StyXman | Termana: hehehe |
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| 13:11.48 | DocScrutinizer | [general notice] There will be a Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) at 15:00 UTC on Tuesday April 17. <http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html> |
| 13:11.59 | Macer | hm |
| 13:12.11 | Macer | i need to get power kernel uhm... 2.6.10? |
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| 13:12.13 | Macer | i can't remember |
| 13:12.22 | Macer | i remember there being a 10 in there somewhere :) anybody know where i can get the img? |
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| 13:14.39 | DocScrutinizer | WOW 313 users |
| 13:15.35 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: only way I know is to install stock kernel, than use kernel-power(flasher|modules) packages and install them |
| 13:16.02 | DocScrutinizer | I bet pali has provided some image you could flash directly as well |
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| 13:16.49 | DocScrutinizer | *somewhere* |
| 13:17.05 | Macer | wow |
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| 13:17.26 | Macer | ok. where can i find the stock kernel just to get the thing to boot? :) |
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| 13:18.46 | Sicelo_ | use flasher utility: it has a flash kernel-only option .. and the rootfs file. |
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| 13:19.15 | DocScrutinizer | it's even explained on ~flashing |
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| 13:19.31 | Macer | Duplicate headers received from server |
| 13:19.35 | Macer | wtf? |
| 13:19.44 | Macer | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php?f=RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin |
| 13:20.33 | DocScrutinizer | err wait.... COMBINED_002 ? |
| 13:20.45 | DocScrutinizer | use global version! |
| 13:21.10 | Macer | the whole page is doing it |
| 13:21.15 | Macer | none of the images seem to want to download |
| 13:21.16 | DocScrutinizer | cmt known to occasionally freak out on localized firmware |
| 13:21.27 | Macer | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php |
| 13:21.29 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: you "registered"? |
| 13:21.38 | Macer | yes |
| 13:21.41 | Macer | i put the ser in |
| 13:21.45 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 13:21.53 | DocScrutinizer | IMEI but anyway |
| 13:22.15 | Macer | let me try again |
| 13:23.35 | LaoLang_cool | gtalk on maemo is a hello... messages would get disappear, I encountered several times |
| 13:24.37 | DocScrutinizer | msgs disappearing usually related to corrupted database |
| 13:24.45 | Macer | Error 349 (net::ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_CONTENT_DISPOSITION): Multiple Content-Disposition headers received. This is disallowed to protect against HTTP response splitting attacks. |
| 13:25.00 | Macer | are you kidding me ? :) |
| 13:25.21 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 13:25.55 | DocScrutinizer | use another browser maybe |
| 13:26.03 | Macer | that's what i'm doing now |
| 13:26.44 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: disappear sometimes, not always. |
| 13:27.05 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: how to know if database is corrupted or not? |
| 13:27.25 | DocScrutinizer | LaoLang_cool: I don't know for sure |
| 13:27.26 | LaoLang_cool | I've cleared conversation of gtalk, but still have the issue |
| 13:27.42 | DocScrutinizer | might be something completely different |
| 13:27.43 | Macer | wow ie works tho? |
| 13:27.50 | Macer | weird. remind me to figure that out later heh |
| 13:28.00 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: which browser? |
| 13:28.07 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: thank you all the same |
| 13:28.10 | Macer | the error was in chrome |
| 13:28.45 | DocScrutinizer | LaoLang_cool: really sorry, I just heard of it, and know of some tmo threads dealing with related topics |
| 13:29.21 | DocScrutinizer | anyway what I heard is not gtalk specific |
| 13:29.33 | DocScrutinizer | usually noticed for SMS |
| 13:29.36 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: ok, I'll try to find the threads |
| 13:29.52 | LaoLang_cool | oh, sms works fine here |
| 13:30.31 | DocScrutinizer | I gather it's same database though |
| 13:31.02 | DocScrutinizer | really, might be a red herring and completely unrelated |
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| 13:32.13 | Macer | is there a 64bit version of the driver to flash on a win7 box? |
| 13:32.20 | ShadowJK | It's not "SIM hardware failure" for my two cases. However, the UI uses "crossed out sim" icon for all and any unknown/uncommon faults with the modem |
| 13:33.06 | DocScrutinizer | SIM is synonym for cmt |
| 13:33.16 | Macer | oh |
| 13:33.28 | Macer | i see a nokia bbs adl loader usb generic driver installed |
| 13:33.31 | Macer | let me try flashing |
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| 13:36.33 | Macer | grrr |
| 13:36.45 | Macer | this damn flasher says suitable usb device not found |
| 13:36.46 | Macer | blahblah |
| 13:37.30 | ShadowJK | Also in my case on both, it'd fail if I pinched phone with thumb and finger at around g h on keyboard. If I kept pinching and booting phone without a SIM, I got a message saying something like unknown telephony error emergency calls disabled |
| 13:38.22 | ShadowJK | Generic flashing advice: unplug cable, switch off N900, remove battery, start flasher, plug in cable, insert battery |
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| 13:44.31 | Macer | APE algorithm has to be... |
| 13:44.42 | DocScrutinizer | ?? |
| 13:44.51 | Macer | provided to flash all the subimages |
| 13:45.11 | Macer | i did flasher.exe RX...bin --flash-only=kernel -f -R |
| 13:45.41 | DocScrutinizer | well you're missing -F <file to flash> |
| 13:45.53 | Macer | sorry |
| 13:45.59 | Macer | -F RX...bin |
| 13:47.21 | DocScrutinizer | I'd try a more 'logical' sequence: -f --flash-only=kernel -F <file> |
| 13:47.34 | DocScrutinizer | shouldn't matter |
| 13:47.55 | DocScrutinizer | -R is bogus, but also shouldn't matter |
| 13:48.15 | Macer | nope .. same error |
| 13:48.19 | DocScrutinizer | ~flashing |
| 13:48.20 | infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 13:48.24 | Macer | ah well.. screw it let me see if i can flash the entire image |
| 13:48.27 | Macer | that is what i am reading :-P |
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| 13:49.19 | DocScrutinizer | flasher is a bitch |
| 13:49.52 | Macer | no i am thinking it is some retarded win7 x64 driver problem |
| 13:49.57 | DocScrutinizer | I tried giving it multiple -F, to do combined & vanilla in one command -> fails |
| 13:51.35 | Macer | suitable usb device not found |
| 13:51.39 | Macer | and it is obviously waiting |
| 13:51.40 | Macer | ugh! |
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| 13:53.56 | Macer | pounds his head |
| 13:55.07 | Macer | let me go walk my happy ass into the closet and hook this thing up to a debian box |
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| 13:59.14 | Macer | Apr 17 08:57:09 inducere kernel: [2028179.303831] usb 1-2: Product: Nokia N900 (Update mode) |
| 13:59.19 | Macer | go figure |
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| 14:10.33 | Macer | NOLO version 1.4.14 |
| 14:10.34 | Macer | Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 |
| 14:10.34 | Macer | Image SW version RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 |
| 14:10.34 | Macer | ERROR: APE algorithm has to be provided to flash all the subimages |
| 14:10.41 | Macer | wtf? |
| 14:12.02 | Macer | oh give me a break |
| 14:12.06 | Macer | latest flasher my ass :/ |
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| 14:18.05 | Macer | ok |
| 14:18.15 | Macer | what am i looking for in dmesg? |
| 14:18.37 | Macer | the bending the pins up didn't work :( |
| 14:19.59 | Macer | [ 89.539428] * CMT rst line change detected (0) |
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| 14:20.09 | Macer | that? |
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| 14:24.34 | Macer | yeah.. i keep getting CMT rst line change detected :( |
| 14:26.01 | ShadowJK | hw fail |
| 14:26.04 | ShadowJK | imo |
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| 14:27.00 | Macer | :( |
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| 14:28.40 | Macer | i'm double checking that the pins are bent upwards one last time |
| 14:28.58 | Macer | bugzilla says a folded piece of paper between the sim and the battery may do the trick as well |
| 14:29.03 | Macer | otherwise it is a bad phone :( |
| 14:29.25 | Macer | but it seems to occur whenever the modem is accessed |
| 14:30.10 | Macer | nope on the pins :( damn this sucks |
| 14:30.17 | Macer | wtf... talk about a jacked up device |
| 14:30.25 | Macer | usb ports breaking off.. sim cards stop working |
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| 14:31.31 | ShadowJK | in my case modem stops working also without sim :P |
| 14:31.54 | ShadowJK | (whereas working modem is capable of emergency call without sim) |
| 14:32.49 | Macer | LOL |
| 14:32.58 | Macer | so i should call 911 to test it? :) |
| 14:33.08 | Macer | "sorry to bother.. just wanted to test my phone out" |
| 14:33.20 | Macer | i'd be arrested by noon |
| 14:33.36 | Macer | i shoved a piece of paper between the battery and the sim to see if pressure will help |
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| 14:36.55 | Macer | wow |
| 14:37.06 | Macer | that ......... seems to have worked |
| 14:37.07 | Macer | wth |
| 14:38.15 | Macer | you have got to be kidding me |
| 14:38.27 | Macer | you would think bending the pins upward would have given a better contact |
| 14:39.35 | Macer | wtf |
| 14:39.37 | Macer | amazing |
| 14:39.45 | Macer | let me bend them safely a bit further |
| 14:42.41 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: the paper patch approach most likely got nothing to do with SIM contacts. I'd guess it's a broken solder point somewhere under a chip or even of the SIM holder, and by applying pressure to SIM holder you also bend the PCB and thus - with a bit of luck - make the solder point contact again |
| 14:43.18 | Macer | oh |
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| 14:43.49 | Macer | well i still bent the pins upward a little more just to make sure |
| 14:44.05 | Macer | honestly if this doesn't work i'm going to hopefully be able to RMA and just get an e7 ;) |
| 14:44.10 | Macer | i think i'm tired of n900s breaking on me |
| 14:44.51 | Macer | i'm testing it now |
| 14:44.55 | DocScrutinizer | I requested to jonni@nokia over in #harmattan if he could ask internally for investigation results of Nokia EE department regarding this rather common error pattern. Alas it seems we need other channels into Nokia to get a proper answer |
| 14:45.22 | Macer | ask about the usb ports while you're at it :-P |
| 14:45.25 | Macer | nope |
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| 14:45.29 | Macer | lost the sim again |
| 14:45.42 | Macer | yeah.. i think i am just going to stay stuck with an e7 |
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| 14:46.01 | Macer | n900 is so well built minus the insides :( |
| 14:46.10 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: USB port issue is completely "closed ticket" - there's nothing more to learn about that |
| 14:46.32 | Macer | DocScrutinizer: i'm sure... they made a piss poor design for the usb port |
| 14:46.40 | DocScrutinizer | ack |
| 14:46.51 | DocScrutinizer | ~usbfix |
| 14:46.52 | infobot | well, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 14:47.15 | Macer | my usb port is fine for now.. it's my sim not working |
| 14:47.18 | Macer | :) |
| 14:47.40 | Macer | i should see if nokia will send me an unlocked lumia 900 :) |
| 14:47.58 | Macer | with the tmob freq |
| 14:47.59 | DocScrutinizer | all that can be done, plus Nokia assured they'd repair/swap/fix any USB issue for users suffering from that. Alas this promise didn't hold for significantly longer than 12 months :-/ |
| 14:48.12 | Macer | lol.. i'm sure |
| 14:48.20 | Macer | what is the warranty on N900s? |
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| 14:48.31 | Macer | i got mine off ebay so i doubt they'd even honor an RMA |
| 14:48.39 | Macer | even if it was new |
| 14:49.20 | DocScrutinizer | in EU we got a general 24 months legal warranty on new goods |
| 14:49.42 | Macer | so in the us 24 hours :-P to make up for those EU laws |
| 14:49.52 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia generously ignoring that fact |
| 14:50.32 | Macer | heh |
| 14:50.46 | Macer | ah well.. let me fill out the paperwork and see if they'll honor it |
| 14:51.07 | Macer | it is obviously not a sw problem |
| 14:53.04 | DocScrutinizer | if you're going RMA/warranty, state CLEARLY and in 4RED 1 that you won't acept any symbian or winp7 replacement, and you also don't agree on Nokia simply keeping *your* device and shreddering it |
| 14:53.48 | DocScrutinizer | if that's what you want |
| 14:55.28 | lardman | wonders whether the Lumia devices accept AT commands |
| 14:55.34 | lardman | afternoon all |
| 14:56.13 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia still seems to prefer a notion like the devices are *theirs* and only lent out to users |
| 14:56.25 | javispedro | lumias accept AT commands from bill gates |
| 14:56.29 | javispedro | the rest must pray |
| 14:56.42 | DocScrutinizer | heh! :-D |
| 14:56.57 | lardman | I was just thinking about harvesting cellids, and thinking about the PITA of trying to get a cellmodem working on a tablet |
| 14:57.18 | lardman | s/harvesting/collecting |
| 14:57.42 | lardman | I never thought I'd enjoy looking at VB code..... |
| 14:57.53 | lardman | but it beats PCI kernel driver code |
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| 14:58.38 | lardman | meeting starts soon or am I a TZ out? |
| 14:58.47 | lardman | goes to make a coffee in preparation |
| 14:59.08 | Termana | lardman, starts soon |
| 15:01.21 | lardman | cool |
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| 15:03.53 | lardman | Jaffa_: ping |
| 15:04.17 | SpeedEvil | lardman: hey |
| 15:04.22 | lardman | hi SpeedEvil, how's things? |
| 15:04.36 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.48 | SpeedEvil | I'm still spending way too much time on writing benefits appeals. :/ |
| 15:04.56 | lardman | all ye all ye come and discuss the future |
| 15:05.47 | lardman | did Quim say he would attend? How's about Jaffa? |
| 15:06.01 | lardman | looks through ml emails |
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| 15:18.41 | Jaffa_ | lardman: Sorry, busy at work. Joined now |
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| 15:25.30 | Macer | well |
| 15:25.37 | Macer | according to nokia my n900 is out of warranty |
| 15:25.44 | Macer | going by their records |
| 15:26.05 | Macer | so now i have to dig up the receipt for this thing (which i pray i have) and try to send it in based on date of purchase |
| 15:27.12 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 15:27.39 | SpeedEvil | Sure you're within 24mo? |
| 15:27.52 | Macer | well i did iget it off ebay.. but it was from a distributor |
| 15:27.55 | Macer | not from a person |
| 15:28.00 | Macer | but i don't know how they count that |
| 15:28.04 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 15:28.29 | Macer | ironically enough |
| 15:28.50 | Macer | the guy i talked to asked "have you tried putting a piece of paper between the battery and the sim?" |
| 15:28.53 | Macer | LOL wtf? |
| 15:30.22 | SpeedEvil | hah |
| 15:31.20 | Macer | this could be the catalyst i needed to ditch tmobile tho |
| 15:31.29 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 15:31.32 | Macer | if i can't manage to rma this thing then i'm done with tmobile |
| 15:31.53 | Macer | they have crap service anyways. the only thing keeping me with them was my n900 :) |
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| 15:36.29 | Macer | the real crappy part is the phone is a UK phone |
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| 15:36.42 | Macer | so i have to go by UK warranty.. meaning i need to ship it overseas to get it fixed lol |
| 15:36.45 | Macer | GREAT! |
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| 17:45.44 | Macer | i hope i can send this thing to the UK and actually get it repaired or replaced |
| 17:45.48 | Macer | only one way to find out |
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| 17:50.58 | SpeedEvil | Repair - no hope. |
| 17:51.00 | SpeedEvil | IMO |
| 17:51.10 | SpeedEvil | I had ~the same issue in November. |
| 17:51.16 | SpeedEvil | And got a different phone. |
| 17:51.30 | SpeedEvil | I question the likelyhood of a replacement lumia |
| 17:51.41 | SpeedEvil | different non-n900 phone |
| 17:52.05 | RST38h | Better get a Symbian phone. |
| 17:52.13 | RST38h | Yes, Lumias are that bad. |
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| 20:23.05 | Raimu | freemangordon: Is this linux-backports-modules piece just the bleeding-edge wireless for kp50? Safe to install, then? |
| 20:24.23 | freemangordon | Raimu, not only wifi drivers, but it is safe to install, it puts all the modules under /opt/lib/modules/... |
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| 20:25.31 | Raimu | What's the rest of it, then? |
| 20:25.39 | Raimu | I see... something bluetooth? |
| 20:25.48 | freemangordon | yep |
| 20:26.08 | freemangordon | actually it is the whole compat-wireless |
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| 20:26.44 | freemangordon | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download |
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| 20:26.54 | Raimu | I see. |
| 20:28.25 | freemangordon | Well, i had the dilema whether to use package only wifi drivers, but at the end decided to package everything, after all it is not so big, about 1MB in /opt |
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| 20:28.47 | freemangordon | s/use package only/package only/ |
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