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| 00:26.44 | LaoLang_cool | Hi, sometimes I want to copy note of calendar, is there some direct way instead of go to the edit gui? |
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| 00:34.05 | LaoLang_cool | robbiethe1st: ok.. |
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| 05:05.52 | joga | DocScrutinizer hmm the problem is fapman? I do have it installed but haven't used it for a while, I clicked on the update indicator to start default appman in this case |
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| 05:21.12 | DocScrutinizer | joga: then never mind |
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| 05:51.26 | DocScrutinizer | Termana: NEW ones for 200$??? where? |
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| 08:26.54 | teotwaki | haha, I love it |
| 08:27.14 | teotwaki | everytime a new guy comes into the office, people introduce my team as "the guys who develop the phone part of our business" |
| 08:27.22 | teotwaki | and every single time, the newcomer goes |
| 08:27.28 | teotwaki | "Oh, you program on iOS?" |
| 08:27.30 | teotwaki | "err, no" |
| 08:27.57 | teotwaki | "Oh, then you program on Android?" (at this point, interest of said person might rise or fall down) |
| 08:28.03 | teotwaki | "err, no" |
| 08:28.12 | teotwaki | here, a puzzled look is seen |
| 08:28.20 | teotwaki | "So, what exactly do you do then?" |
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| 08:29.19 | teotwaki | "We apply weight balanced distribution algorithms to VoIP, email, sms and chat conversations in order to connect people with call centre agents, and process all of that in real time" |
| 08:29.42 | teotwaki | After the 6th words, you can just see their eyes go shallow and glaze over. |
| 08:34.12 | SpeedEvil | So,in other words, you select hold music that's vile enough to make people hang up and reduce load on the support staff? |
| 08:35.49 | StyXman | jajaja |
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| 09:04.52 | Jaffa | teotwaki: Fun :) |
| 09:05.17 | teotwaki | SpeedEvil: something like that :) |
| 09:05.23 | teotwaki | Jaffa: how's it going mate? |
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| 09:06.20 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
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| 09:08.15 | DocScrutinizer | any of you got knowledge about topic of kernel reading partition tables and creating devices for the partitions found? |
| 09:09.22 | DocScrutinizer | sth along udev, modprobe, partprobe... |
| 09:10.48 | DocScrutinizer | we (CSSU) would appreciate some qualified comments and hints on that, over in #maemo-ssu, since we ran into issues with new ke-recv |
| 09:11.27 | Jaffa | teotwaki: For the next two weeks: stupidly busy. Then we'll have submitted our requirements definition report and - due to long decision making process - the project will stop (probably until Q3/Q4). So, then I'll be a lot *less* busy |
| 09:11.33 | Jaffa | teotwaki: How are you? |
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| 09:12.49 | teotwaki | just finished a major release |
| 09:13.01 | teotwaki | worth some 300k LOCs |
| 09:13.08 | Jaffa | Nice |
| 09:13.12 | teotwaki | For a team of 3.5, I'd say that's not too bad. |
| 09:13.17 | Jaffa | All new? |
| 09:13.42 | teotwaki | Most of it, yeah, some of it was ported/refactored. |
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| 09:17.52 | DocScrutinizer | to be more precise: I'm wondering what's involved in creating/changing/removing storage devices/partitions and associated info in kernel and userland |
| 09:23.11 | Jaffa | teotwaki: Nice. |
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| 09:23.43 | Jaffa | teotwaki: I've been doing lots of technical presales work at the moment. Good fun. |
| 09:23.56 | teotwaki | presales can be awesome |
| 09:24.05 | teotwaki | If the project/product is interesting, and the customer has good people. |
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| 09:25.55 | Jaffa | teotwaki: Yeah. Going to South Korea for a week was good. Possibility of going back for a solid couple of weeks. |
| 09:26.04 | teotwaki | Oh, that is nice. |
| 09:26.07 | teotwaki | Whereabouts in SK? |
| 09:26.29 | teotwaki | Seoul? |
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| 09:28.31 | DocScrutinizer | or put simply: "<merlin199> runing blkid as root shows you some info about all partitions in the system. but when I reformatted my sd card to only have one partition I still have ghost entries in the output from blkid. even after a reboot[!!!]" and would you comment/correct my thoughts regarding that, as of http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/latest.log.html#t2012-04-10T09:20:06 ff, please |
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| 09:29.13 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer: I really whish I had more time and knowledge to be more helpfull. all I can say is: the kernel detects the device, emits some events that udev receives, and the applies the matching rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 09:29.55 | DocScrutinizer | StyXman: many thanks anyway for that, it assures me my idea about that part been correct |
| 09:29.59 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer: /dev must be : none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) |
| 09:30.23 | StyXman | check the /etc/fstab in your machine |
| 09:31.09 | StyXman | otherwise you have an old static /dev and blkid might get confused with it |
| 09:31.27 | StyXman | also: try running it under strace -e file and see what files and devices opens |
| 09:31.28 | DocScrutinizer | exactly my thoughts :-D thanks a lot |
| 09:31.50 | DocScrutinizer | (re static /dev) |
| 09:32.15 | DocScrutinizer | fstab however is vastly useless on fremantle |
| 09:33.00 | StyXman | well, from my POV, it shouldn't :| |
| 09:33.17 | DocScrutinizer | it's autogenerated on each single reboot |
| 09:33.21 | StyXman | yeap |
| 09:33.41 | Jaffa | teotwaki: Yeah. |
| 09:33.56 | teotwaki | cool |
| 09:33.59 | StyXman | I understand it's a failsafe measure so the user can't brick so easily the phone |
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| 09:34.19 | DocScrutinizer | tbh I don't understand it at all :-S |
| 09:35.02 | StyXman | the problen is that it actually doesn't detect anything and the assumptions might be no longer valid and *that* bricks the phone |
| 09:35.17 | DocScrutinizer | editing fstab needs root perms as does messing up the script that generates fstab on maemo |
| 09:35.27 | StyXman | FI: reformatting /home/user/MyDocs to extX |
| 09:35.49 | RST38h | yawns |
| 09:35.50 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 09:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | moo RST38h |
| 09:36.24 | RST38h | moo, Doc, how is suffering today? |
| 09:36.30 | DocScrutinizer | fun |
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| 09:37.08 | DocScrutinizer | kneedeep into ke-recv, udev, kernel+partition tables, fstab etc |
| 09:40.08 | DocScrutinizer | StyXman: anyway mount shows >>none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,noatime,size=10240k,mode=755)<< |
| 09:40.51 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer: hmmm |
| 09:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | indeed hmmm |
| 09:41.12 | DocScrutinizer | tmpfs!=devtmpfs ?? |
| 09:41.44 | DocScrutinizer | not at all I'd guess |
| 09:42.01 | DocScrutinizer | otoh it should at very least be volatile |
| 09:42.10 | StyXman | yes |
| 09:42.21 | DocScrutinizer | so couldn't persist acoss reboots, as merlin_1991 complained |
| 09:42.25 | StyXman | unless the dev existed before mounting udev |
| 09:42.40 | DocScrutinizer | HAH |
| 09:42.51 | StyXman | I *think* it copies the original devices from the underlaying /dev |
| 09:43.10 | DocScrutinizer | I think that's the whole idea of devtmpfs |
| 09:43.12 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 09:45.37 | DocScrutinizer | no explanation though where to look for sticky partitions |
| 09:45.52 | DocScrutinizer | not exactly |
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| 09:46.15 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer: does dmesg say anything abvout them @ boot time? |
| 09:46.30 | DocScrutinizer | no idea, it's been reported by merlin_1991 |
| 09:46.55 | DocScrutinizer | but a very good point for what to check |
| 09:46.56 | StyXman | is it reproducible? |
| 09:47.06 | DocScrutinizer | I guess it is |
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| 09:48.02 | DocScrutinizer | since we got new ke-recv in CSSU-T, we've seen quite a number of "nice" error reports |
| 09:48.37 | DocScrutinizer | the fact that a broken CSSU version of ke-recv got shipped didn't exactly help on that |
| 09:49.20 | StyXman | what's ke-recv? doesn't ring a bell... |
| 09:49.36 | DocScrutinizer | on the bright side it's a nice lesson for KP and CSSU developers and maintainers :-D |
| 09:50.20 | DocScrutinizer | ke-recv = maemo's special flavour of (I guess) KernelEven-RECeiVe |
| 09:50.29 | DocScrutinizer | evenT |
| 09:50.55 | DocScrutinizer | it acts on hotplug and remove events |
| 09:51.20 | DocScrutinizer | some weid sibling or replacement of/for udev |
| 09:51.33 | DocScrutinizer | weird* |
| 09:51.39 | StyXman | for any particular reason? |
| 09:51.46 | DocScrutinizer | dang my typing sucks today, even more than usual |
| 09:51.58 | StyXman | I mean, if you´re using both, they might have an interesting interaction |
| 09:52.04 | DocScrutinizer | reason for ke-recv? no idea |
| 09:52.30 | DocScrutinizer | as well as no idea why maemo autogenerates fstab |
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| 09:53.00 | DocScrutinizer | you know, design rationale and requirements spec not avaoilable for anything in maemo |
| 09:53.41 | StyXman | I love the readme: «nothing here». indeed |
| 09:54.20 | StyXman | nothing in the news or even authors |
| 09:54.29 | DocScrutinizer | ke-recv-test might shed some dim light |
| 09:54.49 | StyXman | hmm |
| 09:54.55 | DocScrutinizer | on general purpose of the whole thing |
| 09:55.36 | StyXman | DocScrutinizer: just lokking at what files compose it's source gives a rough idea |
| 09:55.51 | StyXman | I thingk it should go on top of udev |
| 09:56.06 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 09:56.06 | StyXman | I mean, it´s not a replacement |
| 09:56.17 | StyXman | but that's all I can say for now |
| 09:57.00 | DocScrutinizer | I think it deals with events that aren't strickly device-related as in udevadm monitor |
| 09:57.35 | DocScrutinizer | like plugin to USB host, open/close of battery lid (to [u]mount uSD) etc pp |
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| 10:00.58 | DocScrutinizer | s/strickly/strictly/. |
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| 11:14.17 | vi___ | hello |
| 11:14.38 | vi___ | So I have an 'issue' that I am having difficulty isolating. |
| 11:15.31 | vi___ | When I run the sharing services configuration applett from settings panel it crashes with: |
| 11:16.00 | vi___ | 'internal error. Application 'settings' closed. |
| 11:16.11 | vi___ | I have no sharing accounts at the moment. |
| 11:16.21 | vi___ | I want to add one for a service (flickr as it happens) |
| 11:16.38 | vi___ | So I click the sharing applett |
| 11:16.53 | vi___ | it asks if I want to create a new account or add and existing one |
| 11:17.03 | vi___ | I click 'add existing' then it crashes. |
| 11:17.32 | vi___ | How can I run the settings applet from the command line in order that I may see some kind of error/debug? |
| 11:18.41 | vi___ | I cannot seem to find the 'settings' program in the list of .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/hildon/SOMEFILES.desktop |
| 11:26.08 | vi___ | anyone? |
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| 11:59.45 | Macer | http://www.mercurynews.com/mike-cassidy/ci_20359712/mike-cassidy-jack-tramiel-commodore-64-pioneer-died?source=most_viewed |
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| 12:14.44 | vi___ | merlin1991: yo |
| 12:21.44 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: actually the /dev node is long gone, but blkid still reports about those parititoins |
| 12:21.53 | merlin1991 | s/paritioins/partitions |
| 12:23.00 | merlin1991 | vi___: hey |
| 12:23.03 | StyXman | merlin1991: probably it asks the kernel and he's the one confused? |
| 12:23.40 | merlin1991 | StyXman: I would agree on that if it wouldn't be persistant over reboots |
| 12:24.26 | StyXman | merlin1991: true |
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| 12:26.44 | StyXman | merlin1991: also: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/7386 |
| 12:27.02 | merlin1991 | die apt-worker |
| 12:27.03 | StyXman | blkid seems to keep track of partitions in /etc/blkid.tab |
| 12:27.04 | vi___ | are you able to shed any light on my query above |
| 12:27.05 | vi___ | ? |
| 12:27.09 | vi___ | merlin1991: |
| 12:27.26 | StyXman | merlin1991: and reads /proc/partitions |
| 12:28.18 | merlin1991 | vi___: I don't know much about it, but my best guess is, that you have some unstable plugin that crashes the whole thing |
| 12:28.26 | vi___ | mmm |
| 12:28.39 | merlin1991 | check for extra sharing plugins you have installed |
| 12:29.34 | vi___ | Do you know the location of the .desktop file for the setup program? (spanner icon). |
| 12:30.22 | merlin1991 | StyXman: http://pastebin.com/qR5iMx01 |
| 12:30.29 | merlin1991 | funky imo |
| 12:32.24 | StyXman | merlin1991: hmmm, IIRC, there's a script that runs at boo who creates the devices |
| 12:32.32 | StyXman | .... but I can't tell right now |
| 12:32.47 | StyXman | "busy working" |
| 12:33.33 | merlin1991 | yeah you're right about blkid.tab there are my ghost partitions |
| 12:33.38 | merlin1991 | this CRIES for a patch |
| 12:35.42 | StyXman | this cries for «don't try to create devices blindingly at boot» |
| 12:38.29 | StyXman | also: read blkid's code :| |
| 12:42.54 | Sicelo | ~fubar |
| 12:42.54 | infobot | fubar is F*cked Up Beyond Any Recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included), or a bar addon like Titan Panel and Telo's InfoBar. and everything. |
| 12:43.00 | Sicelo | :P |
| 12:44.35 | vi___ | merlin: how do I do the bug list thing? |
| 12:45.39 | vi___ | merlin1991: specifically 10089 |
| 12:45.42 | vi___ | !bug |
| 12:45.54 | vi___ | !bug 10089 |
| 12:45.56 | povbot | 04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/10089 Cannot create Flickr sharing account: "Internal error. Application 'Settings' closed." |
| 12:48.29 | vi___ | running from terminal I get this vomit: |
| 12:48.34 | vi___ | http://pastebin.com/30gwdc8j |
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| 12:57.53 | tcatm | Hey. Can someone tell me whether kernel-power has any additional patches compared to the default kernel? |
| 12:58.57 | Jaffa | tcatm: It has quite a few |
| 12:59.41 | tcatm | Hrm. is there a git repo? |
| 12:59.52 | freemangordon | yes |
| 12:59.59 | freemangordon | it is in garage.maemo.org |
| 13:00.47 | freemangordon | tcatm, here https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kernel-power/ |
| 13:01.38 | tcatm | Awesome. Thanks! |
| 13:02.23 | tcatm | I'm trying to track down a bug where sometimes the speaker is muted during calls (mic seems to be muted, too). Is this known? |
| 13:03.05 | guly | which twitter client do people here use? |
| 13:04.05 | vi___ | mmm, so other share services work. |
| 13:04.14 | vi___ | It is just the flickr plugin that is failing. |
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| 13:09.17 | vi___ | SON OF A WHORE |
| 13:09.24 | vi___ | god damn you stupid phone |
| 13:14.03 | StyXman | vi___: the language, please |
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| 13:14.16 | StyXman | it's «son of a bithc» :-P |
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| 13:18.01 | vi___ | freemangordon: good day sir. |
| 13:18.21 | vi___ | freemangordon: what would happen if I cranked the 'dsp_voltage_boost' to 255? |
| 13:19.17 | tcatm | It looks like those power kernel patches won't apply cleanly using quilt :/ |
| 13:21.01 | Macer | vi___: you will teleport to io |
| 13:23.53 | StyXman | (Ed's Note: Io is a Jupiter's moon) |
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| 13:32.30 | Sicelo | tcatm: sure that's not a hardware issue? eg, faulty jack.. resulting in false detection of a headset? |
| 13:36.01 | tcatm | The symptons I've noticed looked like a software problem. I.e. on some cases I was able to reproduce the problem using software. |
| 13:36.13 | freemangordon | vi___, it will be either ignored or limited to 250, can't remember exactly, but according to how I code ususally, it will be limited |
| 13:37.19 | freemangordon | tcatm, actually it is quilt that is used to apply patches in debian/patches, you may want to look at KP thread at TMO on how to build KP |
| 13:38.17 | tcatm | Sicelo: Detected headset should show up in dmesg as 'headphone (GPIO 177) is now connected' (I just verified that). |
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| 13:43.26 | tcatm | Is it normal for the n900 to be quiet when establishing a call? Other phones emit beep tones when the called phone is ringing. |
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| 13:47.44 | ThreeM | tcatm normal behavior |
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| 14:29.16 | vi___ | merlin1991: hello |
| 14:30.08 | merlin1991 | hi? |
| 14:30.23 | vi___ | merlin1991: I assume you are running cssu-t 3.1? |
| 14:30.55 | merlin1991 | among cssu-stable and pr1.3.1 on my 3 devices, yes :D |
| 14:31.04 | vi___ | heh |
| 14:31.32 | vi___ | Then perhaps you could quickly try somthing to help me eliminate a possibilty in a bug hunt. |
| 14:31.39 | merlin1991 | sure |
| 14:32.01 | vi___ | Can you take a photo with the camera, when it shows you the photo on the screen, press the gallery button on the bottom right hand corner. |
| 14:32.29 | vi___ | tell me , does it open the phot in maemo-photo (gallery) or the microb (browser) |
| 14:32.34 | vi___ | ^photo |
| 14:33.10 | merlin1991 | gallery |
| 14:33.24 | vi___ | bollocks |
| 14:33.39 | vi___ | for some reason photos are opening in the browser for me |
| 14:33.46 | vi___ | this is a huge pain in the nuts |
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| 14:33.55 | merlin1991 | microb or some other browser? |
| 14:35.25 | vi___ | microb |
| 14:35.29 | vi___ | it opens with: |
| 14:35.42 | vi___ | file://PATH/TO/MY/PHOTO.jpg |
| 14:36.17 | merlin1991 | check your /usr/share/applications/hildon/image-viewer.desktop |
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| 14:37.45 | merlin1991 | though I'm not 100% sure how those mime handlers are registered |
| 14:38.06 | merlin1991 | someone else will know for sure :) |
| 14:39.55 | vi___ | can you paste your line of mimetype handlers from your image-viewer.desktop? |
| 14:41.10 | merlin1991 | MimeType=image/jpeg;image/png;image/gif;image/tiff |
| 14:41.56 | ThreeM | http://german-bash.org/44335 |
| 14:42.06 | ThreeM | oh wrong channel. sorry |
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| 14:44.25 | merlin1991 | vi___: does your image-viewer.desktop contain the X-Osso-Service line? |
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| 14:46.02 | merlin1991 | btw vi___ check in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list for the line with image/jpeg |
| 14:46.18 | merlin1991 | it should be image/jpeg=hildon-image-viewer.desktop |
| 14:51.22 | vi___ | merlin1991: I reinstalled 'imageviewer' which seems to update a bunch of mime types type stuff in the postinst. |
| 14:51.36 | vi___ | This seems to have solved the problem. |
| 14:51.46 | vi___ | fffuuuu knows how it got broken. |
| 14:51.53 | vi___ | Thankyou for your assistance. |
| 14:52.29 | vi___ | FWIW my .desktop file looked the same as yours. |
| 14:55.42 | merlin1991 | how did it get broken? |
| 14:56.22 | vi___ | I really do not know. |
| 14:56.47 | vi___ | It happened some time after CSSU-T update 2 updates back I think. |
| 14:56.56 | vi___ | However I not think they are related. |
| 14:57.15 | vi___ | As it is such a commonly used feature, someone else would have complained. |
| 14:57.28 | vi___ | (or they were so leet they fixed it already) |
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| 17:11.48 | tcatm | I think I have found the cause of the bug the causes the earpiece to be muted. |
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| 17:23.20 | Sicelo | do tell, tcatm |
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| 17:23.34 | RST38h | moo javispedro |
| 17:23.40 | javispedro | moo |
| 17:23.46 | DocScrutinizer | moo |
| 17:24.29 | tcatm | Sicelo: It could be the sound driver incorrectly powering on the amplifier. |
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| 17:27.10 | Sicelo | hmmm |
| 17:32.16 | tcatm | Disabling stand-by mode of said amplifier seems to help. |
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| 17:38.13 | DocScrutinizer | strange |
| 17:38.43 | trumee | guys, can ipad2 tether to a N900? |
| 17:39.57 | tcatm | Should work. The N900 can speak pretty much any wireless protocol. |
| 17:40.05 | trumee | need to decide between wifi or 3g version. |
| 17:40.30 | jonne | use the hotspot thing on the n900 |
| 17:40.40 | jonne | maybe bluetooth even works, never tried it |
| 17:40.46 | jonne | do ipads have bluetooth? |
| 17:41.02 | trumee | iirc there was a limitation on adhoc networking |
| 17:41.59 | trumee | is in a shop atm deciding to buy which model |
| 17:42.15 | trumee | tmo is dog slow. |
| 17:42.22 | r00t|home | simple: buy the 'none' model |
| 17:42.33 | trumee | so need a confirmation |
| 17:42.44 | r00t|home | that's the only good model of the ipad |
| 17:43.23 | trumee | r00t|home, need one for my wife :) |
| 17:49.06 | trumee | DocScrutinizer, any idea? |
| 17:49.44 | trumee | MAG had an ipad iirc |
| 17:49.58 | trumee | MohammadAG, ping |
| 17:50.21 | trumee | ~ping |
| 17:50.21 | infobot | ~pong |
| 17:50.37 | DocScrutinizer | trumee: sprry nope |
| 17:50.39 | RST38h | ...Objects that caused the latest major natural disaster. We have at least three different anomalous explanations for the Indian Ocean Tsunami now. We don't need more. |
| 17:52.41 | MohammadAG | trumee: Pong |
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| 18:14.47 | trumee | MohammadAG, can ipad be tethered to N900? |
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| 18:16.16 | trumee | ~ping |
| 18:16.17 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 18:25.34 | jacekowski | trumee: using wifi |
| 18:28.31 | trumee | jacekowski, yes via wifi? |
| 18:29.45 | jacekowski | yeah |
| 18:29.53 | jacekowski | same as tethering anything else to n900 then |
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| 18:37.43 | trumee | jacekowski, tx |
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| 19:27.26 | nikko | hi |
| 19:28.52 | nikko | my maemo keyboard lights doesnt turn on anymore |
| 19:29.04 | nikko | even after reflashing |
| 19:29.13 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, it is possible to clean mtd2 log? |
| 19:29.21 | nikko | anyone knows how to fix this ? |
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| 19:36.14 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: well, I guess mtd_debug could help erasing it |
| 19:36.47 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: no idea what's the format of a "clean" mtd2 though |
| 19:36.54 | Pali | it is safe? |
| 19:37.21 | DocScrutinizer | well, obviously not, since ^^^ |
| 19:37.26 | Pali | I'd like to clean it, because I have more kernel logs which is now useless (caused by my testing...) |
| 19:37.46 | Pali | and parsing new is hard now |
| 19:38.48 | DocScrutinizer | you could check kernel src to learn how it determines end-of-buffer |
| 19:39.18 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess there must be a tool to read mtd oopslog as well |
| 19:39.46 | DocScrutinizer | which obviously should be the way to go |
| 19:41.34 | DocScrutinizer | odds are it doesn't use any particular formatting and just starts dumping at some lst special "<EOF>" it finds in mtd2 |
| 19:41.55 | DocScrutinizer | but - as mentioned above - I have no idea |
| 19:42.45 | nikko | ever lost keypad lights ?? |
| 19:42.54 | DocScrutinizer | umm |
| 19:43.08 | DocScrutinizer | what do you mean? |
| 19:43.45 | nikko | the azerty keyboard of the n900 |
| 19:44.00 | DocScrutinizer | kbd backlights are switching off when ambient light > some particular threshold |
| 19:44.02 | nikko | the light under that *should* turn on when you open the N900 |
| 19:44.26 | nikko | well not mine |
| 19:44.34 | nikko | even in total darkness :/ |
| 19:44.40 | DocScrutinizer | wow |
| 19:44.43 | nikko | and i just reflashed the device |
| 19:44.51 | DocScrutinizer | double-wow |
| 19:45.01 | nikko | also its back from nokia care support |
| 19:45.07 | DocScrutinizer | you might want to remove battery for 2 minutes |
| 19:45.35 | nikko | ok lets try |
| 19:45.52 | nikko | but damn, howcome my n900 nbehave like a computer + win xp? :p |
| 19:45.56 | DocScrutinizer | the lp5523 chip that controls indicator and kbd LEDs is dirctly connected to battery. It might have locked up |
| 19:47.15 | nikko | ok |
| 19:47.23 | nikko | goot to know |
| 19:47.26 | nikko | good |
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| 19:50.31 | nikko | nothing yet |
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| 20:03.11 | DocScrutinizer | does indicator LED work normally? |
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| 20:04.02 | DocScrutinizer | did you restore from backup after reflashing? |
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| 20:08.00 | DocScrutinizer | t900:~# grep Backlight /etc/mce/mce.ini |
| 20:08.02 | DocScrutinizer | BacklightTimeout=30 |
| 20:08.03 | DocScrutinizer | BacklightFadeTime=100 |
| 20:09.45 | DocScrutinizer | t900:~# cat /sys/class/leds/lp5523:kb1/led_current |
| 20:09.47 | DocScrutinizer | 50 |
| 20:13.56 | DocScrutinizer | while sleep 1; do echo 100 > /sys/class/leds/lp5523\:kb1/brightness; done |
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| 20:19.38 | DocScrutinizer | dang, drive by asker |
| 20:20.05 | DocScrutinizer | >:-( |
| 20:21.15 | merlin1991 | fmtx power level was which sysnode? |
| 20:21.28 | DocScrutinizer | *cough* |
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| 20:30.25 | DocScrutinizer | power_level? |
| 20:30.59 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/power_level? |
| 20:31.04 | merlin1991 | ah yeah that one |
| 20:33.04 | merlin1991 | now if I'd also know the safe max :/ |
| 20:33.16 | DocScrutinizer | you know it's kinda locked during first usage |
| 20:33.40 | DocScrutinizer | there's no safe max |
| 20:33.53 | DocScrutinizer | just ramp up to your liking ;-D |
| 20:34.02 | merlin1991 | and watch it burn? :D |
| 20:34.07 | DocScrutinizer | nah |
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| 20:38.41 | DocScrutinizer | ask jacekowski |
| 20:39.19 | DocScrutinizer | there's some working max, not safe max though. the power is picowatts |
| 20:39.35 | DocScrutinizer | or was it nanowatts? |
| 20:40.15 | DocScrutinizer | nuttin will burn, but odds are it's locked anyway, unless you use jacekowski 's hack |
| 20:42.47 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not sure if theoretic max is 255, or was it sth like 185 |
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| 20:48.01 | merlin1991 | cat shows me it's currently 120 |
| 20:48.12 | Pali | merlin1991, max fmtx power_level is 120 |
| 20:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | 111 here, but "ro" |
| 20:48.30 | Pali | in kp50 was changed to max 120 by default |
| 20:48.53 | Pali | also in kp50 is possible to lock/unlock this power_level |
| 20:49.00 | Pali | via sysfs lock |
| 20:49.11 | Pali | usefull to hack unpatched fmtxd |
| 20:49.42 | DocScrutinizer | the chip however has no dangerous max setting |
| 20:50.03 | DocScrutinizer | and I guess the 120 limit is also a raher random value |
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| 20:50.50 | DocScrutinizer | btw I just have set it to 222 and still no smoke |
| 20:51.09 | DocScrutinizer | (on an ancient hostmode kernel) |
| 20:51.10 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, max is 120 see kernel source code |
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| 20:51.31 | DocScrutinizer | what's got kernel source to do with the chip? |
| 20:51.47 | Pali | I think that higher value is decreased to 120 in kernel driver |
| 20:52.04 | Pali | of cource if you do not patched driver |
| 20:52.28 | DocScrutinizer | yes, and that 120 limit is "randomly" picked |
| 20:52.48 | DocScrutinizer | I guess |
| 20:52.54 | DocScrutinizer | anyway o/ bbl |
| 20:52.58 | DavidTalmage_ | Hi. Can someone here help me with QtCreator, a subdirs project, and autoconf? |
| 20:54.51 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 20:54.56 | DavidTalmage_ | Thanks! |
| 20:55.27 | DavidTalmage_ | I'm building some applications that depend on libnfnetlink and libnetfilter_queue. |
| 20:55.45 | DavidTalmage_ | Those libs aren't part of Maemo, so I'm building them myself. |
| 20:56.12 | DavidTalmage_ | I set up my subdirs project as shown in the qt-project wiki page QmakeInvokeAutotools. |
| 20:56.25 | DocScrutinizer | I just said "yes, somebody can help for sure" |
| 20:56.36 | DocScrutinizer | anyway ask |
| 20:56.37 | soltys | :D |
| 20:56.52 | DavidTalmage_ | Ah. Standard hacker answer. :-) |
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| 20:57.17 | DavidTalmage_ | There's a shadow build directory at the same level as my project directory. |
| 20:58.38 | DavidTalmage_ | Things build. Except that libnetfilter_queue depends on libnfnetlink. During compilation, gcc wants to look in the wrong place for the libnfnetlink headers. |
| 20:59.26 | DavidTalmage_ | I checked the Makefile in the build directory. It has the wrong path. |
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| 21:00.23 | DavidTalmage_ | I want to know why QtCreator or Qmake puts the wrong path in the Makefile. |
| 21:00.33 | DavidTalmage_ | I must be telling it something wrong. |
| 21:01.43 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, max power level of fmtx chip is really 120 |
| 21:01.50 | merlin1991 | DavidTalmage_: what do you get in the makefile and what should it be? |
| 21:02.11 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, read page 20 at http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN332.pdf |
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| 21:04.24 | DavidTalmage_ | merlin1991, I may have to take back what I said about the makefile. |
| 21:04.33 | DavidTalmage_ | Looking at it to be sure... |
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| 21:10.06 | DavidTalmage_ | merlin1991, what I wrote originally is true. |
| 21:10.48 | DavidTalmage_ | There's a Makefile in build-directory/libnetfilterqueue-20110906/src. |
| 21:11.50 | DavidTalmage_ | I figured it out. |
| 21:12.24 | DavidTalmage_ | It's stupid configure trick. The Makefile is looking in ${prefix}/include. |
| 21:12.45 | DavidTalmage_ | What it's looking for hasn't been installed there. |
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| 21:13.20 | DavidTalmage_ | Thanks for helping me focus on the solution! |
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