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| 05:47.56 | Macer | hm |
| 05:48.00 | Macer | new cssu |
| 05:48.03 | Macer | nice |
| 05:48.20 | Macer | and a new power kernel |
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| 05:58.06 | Macer | is there a changelog? :) |
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| 06:02.07 | Macer | zoom functionality? :) |
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| 07:36.35 | kjk | Hello,I'm installing neopwn to my n900 ,i extract the w00t.tar.gz to /home/user/.neopwn and what should i edit the /opt/neopwn/control-panel-ui/etc/conf.py |
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| 08:20.43 | joshgillies | anyone in here have info relating to backupmenu and mutiboot? |
| 08:21.43 | joshgillies | the following thread suggests that there has been work toward to: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67866 |
| 08:22.12 | joshgillies | but I was hoping for something that I can install via apt-get rather than messing around with dpkg |
| 08:22.44 | joshgillies | has been away from the Maemo scene for a while now and needs to catch up |
| 08:24.23 | SpeedEvil | You've heard about the n1000? It's got KDE! |
| 08:24.30 | SpeedEvil | mehs at reality. |
| 08:26.00 | joshgillies | SpeedEvil the plasma active tablet? |
| 08:26.20 | SpeedEvil | Actually - that too, |
| 08:26.25 | SpeedEvil | which is interesting. |
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| 08:30.53 | SpeedEvil | I may not actually buy that, but I'm donating $50ish if I don't |
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| 09:47.43 | NIN101 | drive-by asker :S |
| 09:48.19 | Wizzup | SpeedEvil: I suppose it's interesting if we can put maemo on it |
| 09:48.26 | Wizzup | Which should be possible since it uses Mer, afaik |
| 09:49.03 | MrPingu | NIN101 you mean me? I couldn't make that up from the wiki |
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| 10:03.13 | MrOpposite | Hi, on my n900 I got some problems with hildon-home, or something linked to it. Yesterday late at night I was going to bed, so I started to sign out of skype and facebook on both my phone and my computer. Now whenever the phone is turned on it gets spammed with these notification windows (the yellow ones that leads to a chatwindow if I press it). |
| 10:03.22 | MrOpposite | I tried rebooting the phone, but it keeps doing it. |
| 10:03.39 | MrOpposite | I thought about waiting for it to stop, but it loops through the same messages again and again. |
| 10:03.58 | MrPingu | Deleting the particular chat? |
| 10:04.00 | MrOpposite | I thought about clearing the chathistory that spams the phone, but it keeps spamming notification |
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| 10:04.40 | MrOpposite | It actually renders the phone pretty useless |
| 10:04.51 | MrOpposite | As hildon-home is eating up 100% CPU |
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| 10:05.35 | MrPingu | Weird, I guess it can't help you further, sorry. |
| 10:05.47 | MrOpposite | okay, thanks anyway |
| 10:11.55 | MrPingu | I would have fixed it with reflash, or try to delete the whole eventdb |
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| 10:16.02 | SpeedEvil | MrOpposite: I assume you can't ssh in? |
| 10:20.17 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: pong |
| 10:22.46 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: indeed |
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| 10:24.59 | DocScrutinizer | ~drive-by asker is somebody who fires a question at IRQ, then vanishes before anybody could answer |
| 10:24.59 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 10:25.25 | DocScrutinizer | ~forget drive-by asker |
| 10:25.25 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: i forgot drive-by asker |
| 10:25.33 | DocScrutinizer | ~drive-by asker is somebody who fires a question at IRC, then vanishes before anybody could answer |
| 10:25.33 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 10:25.59 | MrOpposite | sorry i was afk |
| 10:26.17 | MrOpposite | SpeedEvil I can start the xterminal on the device itself, so I can probably ssh in |
| 10:27.00 | MrOpposite | The device is not useless per sé, but I cant use it as a phone in the state it's in. |
| 10:27.02 | MrOpposite | Eventdb |
| 10:27.14 | MrOpposite | I'm gonna look into what that is |
| 10:28.37 | DocScrutinizer | find ~user -iname '*vents*' |
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| 10:29.06 | DocScrutinizer | find ~user -iname '*vent*' |
| 10:29.10 | DocScrutinizer | even |
| 10:30.12 | DocScrutinizer | or maybe not |
| 10:30.35 | DocScrutinizer | should shutup and get coffee and aspirin |
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| 10:33.05 | MrOpposite | Thanks anyway DocScrutinizer |
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| 10:34.02 | DocScrutinizer | wait a bit, SpeedEvil will eventually pick up. dunno what he had in mind |
| 10:34.13 | juozapas | where i can find change log of this update ? |
| 10:34.54 | DocScrutinizer | where can I find your definition of "this update" |
| 10:35.34 | SpeedEvil | I'm not sure. |
| 10:35.46 | SpeedEvil | apt-get remove the facebook thingy? |
| 10:35.48 | DocScrutinizer | aaah, are you the famous guy who asked the third time "what's new in this update" on CSSU tmo thread? |
| 10:36.19 | juozapas | DocScrutinizer: newest :) update manager just show me that thereis a new update of cssu |
| 10:36.24 | juozapas | DocScrutinizer: no, it's not me :D |
| 10:36.51 | MrOpposite | I could try |
| 10:36.59 | MrOpposite | (Well it's skype but anyway) |
| 10:37.13 | DocScrutinizer | juozapas: anyway, you're in an infamous row. don't you know and never heard of cssu wiki? |
| 10:37.51 | Abissom | my 2 cents : MrOpposite, disabling the chat account doesn't help? |
| 10:38.00 | juozapas | k, thx DocScrutinizer |
| 10:38.12 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog |
| 10:39.02 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Changelog |
| 10:39.46 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable |
| 10:40.39 | MrOpposite | Abissom just tried to uninstall the chatpluginenginethingi |
| 10:40.45 | MrOpposite | rebooting phone now |
| 10:41.04 | Abissom | hmm, :/ |
| 10:42.11 | MrOpposite | I hate when this happens... It usually means I have to merge together all my contacts... again |
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| 10:44.42 | Abissom | MrPingu_: for partitioning we generally use Bootmenu (or something else that exposes whole emmc via usb) |
| 10:45.14 | MrOpposite | Darnit... still giving me notifications |
| 10:45.22 | Abissom | i used BackupMenu to repartition mine |
| 10:45.36 | MrPingu_ | I just discovered that, thanks anyway Abissom |
| 10:46.07 | Abissom | kewl |
| 10:46.21 | MrOpposite | anyway what are those windows called? |
| 10:46.22 | MrPingu_ | Hmm, why is my original nick in use? IRC is acting on me =( |
| 10:46.33 | MrPingu_ | Notifications bubbles? |
| 10:46.37 | MrOpposite | the notification thingies? I don't know what keywords to google |
| 10:47.03 | MrOpposite | hmm, isn't bubbles the little yellow thingies that pop up in the top of the screen? |
| 10:47.27 | MrOpposite | The notification thingies I'm talking about look like real windows when you go to the screen-selector |
| 10:47.41 | MrOpposite | (with the exception of being yellow) |
| 10:47.45 | MrPingu_ | I know what you mean |
| 10:48.09 | MrPingu_ | I would guess just notification windows |
| 10:48.19 | MrOpposite | yea I'm googleing that now |
| 10:49.08 | Macer | oh hells yeah |
| 10:49.10 | Macer | bloodsport |
| 10:49.14 | Macer | van damme classic |
| 10:50.49 | MrOpposite | 3000 new messages atm |
| 10:50.52 | MrOpposite | and rising |
| 10:51.08 | MrPingu_ | Can't find your problem |
| 10:51.10 | MrOpposite | And it's the same messages, over, and over, and over... |
| 10:51.52 | MrPingu_ | Did you try logging in, logging out, removing account, enabling account again?? |
| 10:52.03 | MrOpposite | uhm, I tried logging in and out |
| 10:52.06 | MrOpposite | removing account |
| 10:52.11 | MrOpposite | not enabeling it |
| 10:52.18 | MrOpposite | enabling* |
| 10:52.34 | Macer | 3000 messages? lol |
| 10:52.36 | DocScrutinizer | MrOpposite: a) spam attack b) IM account and messaging prog problem c) notification infra problem |
| 10:52.37 | MrPingu_ | Are you attached to your messages? |
| 10:53.03 | MrOpposite | MrPingu_ not really |
| 10:53.17 | Macer | maybe you are somehow managing to loop your messages :) |
| 10:53.29 | MrOpposite | Macer yes... thats my problem |
| 10:53.31 | SpeedEvil | remembers 1996. When he got to 8% of his ISPs inbound mail stream. |
| 10:53.34 | MrOpposite | it loops the same messages |
| 10:53.41 | Macer | what are you using? |
| 10:53.43 | MrOpposite | it loops a conversation over and over... |
| 10:53.48 | Macer | is this IM or email? |
| 10:53.50 | MrOpposite | Uhm, the built in skype client |
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| 10:54.02 | DocScrutinizer | MrOpposite: what IS the msg anyway? |
| 10:54.04 | Macer | do you have some weird jabber thing set up to get the skype msgs? |
| 10:54.07 | SpeedEvil | - I had started posting to usenet using email ID per message. This was before spam took off. Then spam took off. |
| 10:54.22 | Macer | where it forwards it somehow |
| 10:54.31 | Macer | turn off all forwarding on your skype acct :) and see if that fixes it |
| 10:54.33 | MrOpposite | DocScrutinizer Uhm, its a conversation about what happened on a train? |
| 10:55.01 | MrPingu_ | Hmm I think rtcom-eventlogger is playing up?? |
| 10:55.03 | DocScrutinizer | so normal inbound chat notification that gets duplicated over and over again? |
| 10:55.07 | Macer | you are probably double forwarding and causing a flood of msgs |
| 10:55.24 | MrOpposite | DocScrutinizer yea |
| 10:55.30 | MrOpposite | Macer I removed the skype account |
| 10:55.45 | Macer | guess that will do the trick too heh |
| 10:55.47 | MrOpposite | it still spam me |
| 10:55.57 | Macer | turn off email notifications on skype as well |
| 10:56.05 | Macer | :) |
| 10:56.17 | MrOpposite | I dont have email notification on skype? |
| 10:56.39 | Macer | no? they don't forward missed txts to email? weird. thought they did |
| 10:56.52 | Macer | oh wait. these are skype IMs? |
| 10:56.58 | MrOpposite | yea it's skype IMs |
| 10:57.27 | DocScrutinizer | first of all: stop skype |
| 10:57.36 | DocScrutinizer | in terminal |
| 10:57.52 | MrOpposite | didn't have any skyhost running |
| 10:57.53 | DocScrutinizer | sorry I can't help there as I refuse to touch skype |
| 10:57.55 | Macer | well.. it's looping somehow. awesome trick. if you find out how you did it let me know heh |
| 10:57.59 | MrOpposite | so I guess it's off |
| 10:58.19 | Macer | i would say maybe you added yourself as a contact and it just ran amok? |
| 10:58.24 | MrOpposite | (my skype account doesn't exist in my phone anymore |
| 10:58.29 | NIN101 | MrPingu_: http://wiki.maemo.org/Repartitioning_the_flash#Using_GParted_-_Resizing_made_simple |
| 10:58.35 | MrOpposite | Macer it happened when I signed out of skype |
| 10:58.41 | MrOpposite | when I was going to bed last night |
| 10:58.50 | MrOpposite | not when I was adding contacts or anything |
| 10:58.50 | Macer | and it kept sending IMs with the acct disabled? |
| 10:58.57 | Macer | or removed? |
| 10:58.59 | Macer | or kept sending emails? |
| 10:59.00 | MrPingu_ | You could mv -r /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/ /some/backup/location/ |
| 10:59.28 | Macer | that's the strangest thing i ever heard of heh |
| 10:59.50 | Macer | i used skype for quite a while and never ran into that problem.. but i got rid of it on my n900 and only use it for a home number |
| 10:59.57 | Macer | mostly because skype is a battery whore |
| 11:00.26 | MrPingu_ | reboot and see if you still get spammed... |
| 11:00.26 | Macer | and txting working in a stupid fashion |
| 11:00.40 | MrOpposite | Oh |
| 11:00.48 | MrOpposite | MrPingu_ i removed it, gonna try reboot now |
| 11:00.52 | MrPingu_ | That command moves the conversations database to some other location |
| 11:01.51 | MrPingu_ | You could also do rm -r but if it doesn't help, you can't restore... |
| 11:02.07 | Macer | speaking of the n900 |
| 11:02.10 | Macer | has anybody tried nemo? |
| 11:02.14 | MrOpposite | nope |
| 11:02.24 | MrOpposite | still spamming |
| 11:02.28 | Macer | ouch heh |
| 11:02.33 | MrOpposite | I mean I got one email notification |
| 11:02.41 | MrOpposite | one missed call notification |
| 11:02.56 | MrOpposite | and 4000 skype IM (looped) notifications |
| 11:03.03 | MrOpposite | so it's only the skype conversation that loops |
| 11:03.04 | Macer | LOL... wtf? |
| 11:03.16 | Abissom | i wonder if you don't need some 'dbus' thing.. monitor what exactly is happening |
| 11:03.32 | MrPingu_ | dbus-monitor? |
| 11:03.34 | Macer | this is with the acct removed from the n900? |
| 11:03.50 | MrOpposite | yes the acc is removed |
| 11:03.58 | Abissom | yeah.. i admit i'm not even sure how that will help |
| 11:04.10 | Macer | you did go into conversations and delete the actual conversation right? |
| 11:04.11 | MrPingu_ | Do you have some notification plugin installed? |
| 11:04.23 | MrOpposite | not... that I know of, no |
| 11:04.38 | MrPingu_ | Well then you probably don't have;) |
| 11:05.39 | Abissom | also, htop might be handy.. showing you which process is causing this |
| 11:06.03 | MrOpposite | top or htop? |
| 11:06.17 | MrPingu_ | Thanks NIN101 I found out that bootmenu also has usbmassstorage support =) |
| 11:06.26 | Abissom | any, although i use htop mostly |
| 11:06.30 | MrOpposite | guess htop |
| 11:06.49 | MrOpposite | anyway |
| 11:07.02 | MrOpposite | When I was top-ing before |
| 11:07.10 | MrOpposite | hildon-home used all available CPU |
| 11:07.26 | Abissom | kill it as user, not root |
| 11:08.16 | Abissom | hmm, you have cssu? if so, which flavor? |
| 11:08.36 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 11:08.41 | MrOpposite | cssu? |
| 11:08.46 | DocScrutinizer | I'd suspect /usr/bin/hildon-sv-notification-daemon, killall -sigstop hildon-sv-notification-daemon |
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| 11:10.29 | DocScrutinizer | you also may want to mv /home/user/.osso/rtcom-notification-ui.data /home/user/.osso/rtcom-notification-ui.data__away |
| 11:11.09 | MrPingu_ | ~cssu |
| 11:11.09 | infobot | it has been said that cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 11:11.49 | DocScrutinizer | honestly I don't exactly see an easy way to recover from that, as those notifiers need interactive ack, no? |
| 11:12.07 | DocScrutinizer | and what got cssu to do with this? |
| 11:12.35 | MrOpposite | I moved the rtcom ui-thingi away |
| 11:12.51 | MrOpposite | aswell as killed the hildon-sv-notification-daemon (several times) |
| 11:12.58 | MrOpposite | and killed hildon-home |
| 11:13.03 | MrOpposite | should I reboot the device again? |
| 11:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | you mustn't kill those processes, as they either cause reboot or will be started again immediately |
| 11:14.00 | MrOpposite | yea |
| 11:14.10 | MrOpposite | well hildon-home crash itself after some time |
| 11:14.20 | MrOpposite | and start all over again with the spamming of messages |
| 11:14.20 | DocScrutinizer | killall hildon-home might help after renaming all those *db |
| 11:14.59 | DocScrutinizer | I bet hildonhome crashes when trying to show zillions of notifiers |
| 11:15.06 | MrOpposite | probably |
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| 11:15.30 | MrOpposite | I moved away the .osso-folder |
| 11:15.36 | MrOpposite | didn't work either |
| 11:15.55 | Abissom | dang! |
| 11:16.10 | DocScrutinizer | I never looked into all that, so I got no clear idea which processes are involved in notifier popup. Others here might be more experienced |
| 11:16.51 | DocScrutinizer | but what I seem to know is that notifieres are stored in a db |
| 11:17.14 | DocScrutinizer | so renaming all suspect ones, then rebooting should at least stop the madness |
| 11:19.08 | DocScrutinizer | my fav candidates for renaming: /home/user/.osso/rtcom-notification-ui.data /home/user/.config/hildon-desktop/notifications.db /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db-journal |
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| 11:19.59 | DocScrutinizer | killall -SIGSTOP hildon-home etc |
| 11:20.06 | DocScrutinizer | SIGSTOP!!! |
| 11:20.26 | DocScrutinizer | then rename, then immediately reboot |
| 11:21.19 | DocScrutinizer | you know you sigstop'ed the right process when the madness stops and no more new notifiers pop up |
| 11:21.36 | MrOpposite | sigstop on hildon-home stopped the madness... |
| 11:21.39 | MrOpposite | hmm |
| 11:22.44 | MrOpposite | renaming important folders MAY not have been such a good idea after all... |
| 11:22.56 | DocScrutinizer | possibly stopping certain proceses may trigger watchdog reboot after 30..60s |
| 11:23.30 | MrOpposite | Anyway, I think i need to reflash the device now |
| 11:24.07 | MrOpposite | (I went bananaz in my quest to stop the madness, and renamed pretty much every config folder there was... now the device refuses to start) |
| 11:24.08 | Abissom | i think you don't, but it may be quickest way to recover |
| 11:24.27 | DocScrutinizer | also you should make sure you got a "plan B" backdoor, like backupmenu. So if your renaming causes any bootloop, you could revert to prev state via that |
| 11:25.11 | MrOpposite | uhm, maybe if someone told me that earlier :P |
| 11:25.12 | MrOpposite | anyway |
| 11:25.26 | MrOpposite | Let's hope it solves itself after a reflasg |
| 11:25.30 | MrOpposite | reflash* |
| 11:25.36 | DocScrutinizer | unlikely |
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| 11:25.53 | MrOpposite | I'd be REALLY suprised if it doesn't solve it |
| 11:26.10 | MrOpposite | I mean factory restore |
| 11:26.22 | DocScrutinizer | I suspect a hickup in one of the databases. and reflashing COMBINED won't touch your user $HOME so won't restore the db either |
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| 11:27.59 | MrOpposite | did flasher3.5 work with windows 7? |
| 11:28.07 | DocScrutinizer | even while the X server maybe won't start when you've hidden some essential .config, I'd still expect wlan and ssh to come up and work |
| 11:28.09 | MrOpposite | I think I remember reading somewhere that it doesn't |
| 11:28.27 | MrOpposite | DocScrutinizer it's stuck in the 5 white dots loadingscreen |
| 11:28.39 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 11:29.04 | DocScrutinizer | at that point a lot of services not related to hildon may already run |
| 11:29.16 | MrOpposite | okay |
| 11:29.20 | Abissom | MrOpposite: NIN101 worked on a very useful RescueOS. you might try it |
| 11:29.29 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 11:29.42 | MrOpposite | where do I find it? |
| 11:30.05 | NIN101 | http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
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| 11:31.59 | MrOpposite | thanks |
| 11:32.53 | NIN101 | afk |
| 11:33.05 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
| 11:33.08 | Pali | NIN101, can you add to rescue os option to recreate /dev/console, /dev/tty, /dev/zero and /dev/null ? |
| 11:34.39 | MrOpposite | uhm what does the n900 pull from the usbport when the data-pins are shorted? |
| 11:34.51 | DocScrutinizer | ?? |
| 11:35.13 | MrOpposite | As in how much milli ampere |
| 11:35.26 | DocScrutinizer | max ~1000 |
| 11:35.47 | MrOpposite | Okay |
| 11:35.47 | Sicelo | don't charge the phone from PC usb using RescueOS (or BackupMenu) |
| 11:35.47 | DocScrutinizer | usually less |
| 11:36.07 | MrOpposite | Sicelo yea I read about that |
| 11:36.23 | MrOpposite | but what I mean is, I have a usb-cable that shorted the data-pins |
| 11:36.28 | MrOpposite | to emulate a wall-charger |
| 11:36.55 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if should tell robbiethe1st about how to tweak charger script to draw max 500mA |
| 11:36.58 | MrOpposite | (So I can charge my phone in my computer while the computer is in sleep-mode and only giving power through the usb-ports, not communicating |
| 11:37.38 | DocScrutinizer | MrOpposite: odds are in worst case that'll fry your PC |
| 11:38.08 | DocScrutinizer | though that's a problem in PC then, as USB is defined as shortcircuit safe |
| 11:38.18 | MrOpposite | okay |
| 11:38.57 | MrOpposite | Will it fry because of doing it over time, or fry the moment I try it? |
| 11:39.06 | MrOpposite | Because I've been doing that for like 2 months |
| 11:39.21 | DocScrutinizer | a friggin *lot* of other devices doesn't care at all about this particular problem: USB mug heater, 3.5" USB HDD etc pp |
| 11:39.50 | DocScrutinizer | after 2 months you can consider it tested and working ;-) |
| 11:39.57 | MrOpposite | okay, cool |
| 11:40.28 | MrOpposite | (I always have my laptop in my backpack in sleepmode, so that's like a HUGE batterypack for my n900) |
| 11:41.24 | MrOpposite | anyway, now I'm gonna flash my phone :P |
| 11:41.34 | DocScrutinizer | not many PC can provide even full 500mA to USB during sleep |
| 11:42.46 | MrOpposite | man how did this work again? |
| 11:42.55 | MrOpposite | (the boot into flash-mode) |
| 11:43.07 | MrOpposite | first real poweroff (no usb) |
| 11:43.17 | MrOpposite | Could someone link me to a guide? |
| 11:43.23 | MrOpposite | oh wait |
| 11:43.25 | MrOpposite | nvm someone did |
| 11:50.23 | MrOpposite | NOTE: Always flash the eMMC image first, then the FIASCO image immediately after that. Never boot up the device between flashing the FIASCO image and the eMMC image! When flashing eMMC always also flash FIASCO rootfs - NEVER boot the device between the two flashes. |
| 11:50.39 | MrOpposite | Uhm, my curious mind wants to know why :P |
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| 11:56.01 | DocScrutinizer | because flashing eMMC deletes /opt, and during first boot of a proper rootfs it will get autogenerated (aka optified) again |
| 11:56.11 | DocScrutinizer | MrOpposite: ^^^ |
| 11:56.37 | MrOpposite | ah, okay |
| 11:56.43 | MrOpposite | thanks |
| 11:56.48 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
| 11:58.03 | DocScrutinizer | NB this happens *very* rapidly during first boot, so you might think "it hasn't booted yet" but actually you already ruined the virgin rootfs, so after flashing eMMC it won't boot anymore |
| 11:58.51 | DocScrutinizer | on the bright side you *always* can flash rootfs/COMBINED as last step, and it will always result in a working (=optifying) system |
| 11:58.58 | NIN101 | Pali: hmm, I think I can, yes. |
| 11:59.06 | MrOpposite | okay |
| 11:59.13 | MrOpposite | not... this shit again |
| 11:59.14 | DocScrutinizer | no matter in which sequence you flashed COMBINED and VANILLA before |
| 11:59.16 | MrOpposite | MAN |
| 11:59.55 | MrOpposite | My computer i flashed the n900 with before |
| 12:00.00 | MrOpposite | is not booting anymore |
| 12:00.06 | DocScrutinizer | :-S |
| 12:00.15 | DocScrutinizer | dang, you got the gremlins today |
| 12:00.27 | MrOpposite | this computer runs windows 7 64-bit and don't run flasher-3.5 properly |
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| 12:00.39 | MrOpposite | well... |
| 12:00.40 | DocScrutinizer | nfc anout winlose |
| 12:00.49 | DocScrutinizer | about, even |
| 12:00.55 | MrOpposite | let's install flasher-3.5 on my 3rd computer |
| 12:00.58 | MrOpposite | with linux |
| 12:01.05 | DocScrutinizer | good idea |
| 12:01.07 | MrOpposite | \o/ |
| 12:01.12 | MrPingu_ | I thought someone made livecd for flashing purposes |
| 12:01.49 | DocScrutinizer | this, though a briliant idea, hasn't happened yet afaik |
| 12:02.02 | NIN101 | * DocScrutinizer wonders if should tell robbiethe1st about how to tweak charger script to draw max 500mA <-- I am interested in that too (charge21.sh) so I can autostart it in rescueOS which should be very useful. |
| 12:02.28 | DocScrutinizer | some nice knopix with proper flasher3.5 and all the COMBINED and VANILLA imgs |
| 12:03.01 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: ok, wait a minute, I'll pick out the one-char "patch" for you |
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| 12:05.06 | MrOpposite | man, if it weren't for cygwin, I wouldn't be able to use my windowscomputer |
| 12:05.09 | MrOpposite | at.. all |
| 12:05.50 | MrOpposite | Next time I buy a computer I'm gonna check that I can actually use the GFX-card with linux... |
| 12:11.15 | villager | what gfx cards are still sold that don't work with linux? |
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| 12:12.47 | MrOpposite | villager well, ATI-cards :P |
| 12:13.00 | MrOpposite | Technically it works |
| 12:13.26 | villager | MrOpposite: hmm, I have ATI on my desktop, and run linux... |
| 12:14.00 | MrOpposite | yea, well, it might have came out some drivers latley |
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| 12:14.23 | MrOpposite | but I don't have enough harddrive space to back up my data before attepmting to install linux on it again |
| 12:15.23 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: see line 48...50 for rationale |
| 12:15.24 | villager | then again, I suppose the ATI card I have isn't the newest anymore, I guess the newest ones might not work |
| 12:16.29 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: avoid setting reg01 to 88 or c8 |
| 12:17.48 | villager | but that must mean my computer isn't top-end anymore... maybe I gotta upgrade... argh |
| 12:17.49 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: 11: i2cset -y 2 0x6b 0x01 0x4c # 500mA limit, 3.4V weak threshold, enable term, charger disable |
| 12:18.18 | MrOpposite | there we go |
| 12:18.43 | MrOpposite | let's se how the phone feels after THIS fix! |
| 12:18.51 | MrOpposite | *evil laughter* |
| 12:19.02 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 12:19.06 | MrOpposite | without "er" |
| 12:19.20 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: see 57: |
| 12:19.49 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: comment 84:...90: |
| 12:20.25 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: that's it, I hope |
| 12:20.29 | DocScrutinizer | untested |
| 12:20.41 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 12:20.46 | MrOpposite | why doesn't it boot up |
| 12:20.48 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: comments & patches apply to http://enivax.net/jk/n900/charge21.sh.txt |
| 12:20.48 | MrOpposite | it should boot up |
| 12:20.59 | NIN101 | thanks DocScrutinizer, looking into it |
| 12:21.15 | MrOpposite | THERE |
| 12:21.16 | MrOpposite | nvm |
| 12:22.52 | MrOpposite | man |
| 12:22.53 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: maybe I feel like doing a lil fancy today and write a more 'nifty' script, for the shits'n giggles |
| 12:22.57 | MrOpposite | This sucks |
| 12:23.04 | DocScrutinizer | where you can set max charge via parameter |
| 12:23.19 | NIN101 | that would be cool stuff. |
| 12:23.35 | MrOpposite | OMG |
| 12:23.38 | MrOpposite | THE MADNESS STOPPED! |
| 12:23.46 | DocScrutinizer | INCREDIBLE |
| 12:24.03 | MrOpposite | well |
| 12:24.08 | DocScrutinizer | I hit it with a sledgehammer and it actually stopped!1!!1!!!1!1 |
| 12:24.09 | MrOpposite | Now all my contacts are gone |
| 12:24.25 | MrOpposite | Maybe I should have thought this trough a bit more |
| 12:24.27 | MrOpposite | ... |
| 12:24.31 | DocScrutinizer | the result of flashing eMMC |
| 12:24.31 | MrOpposite | I'm waay to impulsive |
| 12:24.58 | MrOpposite | I should get rid of the nitdroid on my memcard |
| 12:25.10 | MrOpposite | and start using those 16 gigs for something useful |
| 12:25.14 | MrOpposite | like all my photos |
| 12:27.04 | MrOpposite | .__ |
| 12:27.07 | MrOpposite | .__.* |
| 12:27.19 | MrOpposite | I think I just sent a textmessage to my mums workphone... |
| 12:27.29 | MrOpposite | anyway Thanks for the help guis |
| 12:27.33 | MrOpposite | guys* |
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| 12:30.40 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
| 12:31.19 | DocScrutinizer | MrOpposite: (and start using those 16 gigs for something useful) like backups ;-P |
| 12:33.27 | MrOpposite | maybe I should syncronize my phone with my computer some more |
| 12:35.16 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh |
| 12:37.00 | saltsa | is that for n900? |
| 12:37.59 | NIN101 | DocScrutinizer: thank you. |
| 12:42.10 | MrOpposite | omg |
| 12:42.18 | MrOpposite | Do I actually have a backup |
| 12:42.30 | MrOpposite | I might have an old backup |
| 12:47.19 | NIN101 | hmm, but I think this script would make the meego kernel panic. The one working uses bq to get the information. Shouldn't be an issue to apply the changes though... |
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| 12:56.25 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
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| 13:01.02 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: just check for lines like >>$I2CSET -y 2 0x6b 0x01 0xc8;<<, make sure you don't set register 0x01 to any value 0x8? or 0xc? |
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| 13:01.22 | DocScrutinizer | as those are 800mA resp "unlimited" |
| 13:02.41 | Macer | watching gangster number 1 |
| 13:02.48 | Macer | not too bad of a movie |
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| 13:12.08 | NIN101 | DocScrutinizer: i2cset -y 2 0x6b 0x01 0x48; \n sleep 1 \n echo -n " 500mA: " $(i2cget -y 2 0x6b 0x00) <-- i2cset -y 2 0x6b 0x01 0x48 => what does 0x48 mean (sorry, apparently i2c noob here)? |
| 13:13.04 | DocScrutinizer | set bus2 reg0x01 to 0x48 |
| 13:13.25 | DocScrutinizer | the bit meanings of reg01 are "explained" in charge21.sh |
| 13:14.12 | DocScrutinizer | bit 8:4 (the two msb) are max USB current: 11 is unlimited, 10 is 800mA |
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| 13:15.22 | DocScrutinizer | so setting it to 0100 1000 means: USBlimit:01=500mA, the rest is irrelevant for here |
| 13:15.40 | DocScrutinizer | bit4 means charger-enabled |
| 13:15.49 | DocScrutinizer | err bit3 |
| 13:16.07 | DocScrutinizer | also bit7:6 in above |
| 13:16.21 | DocScrutinizer | (one-off problem, not yet awake ;-D) |
| 13:16.55 | DocScrutinizer | bit3:0=0 means "no boostmode" and a few other details |
| 13:17.59 | DocScrutinizer | bit5:4 is is some threshold, I forgot what it does exactly |
| 13:19.10 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: so *whenever* writing to register 01 ( i2cset -y 2 0x6b 0x01 ) make sure the value is < 0b10000000 |
| 13:19.50 | DocScrutinizer | I.E MSB = 0 |
| 13:20.21 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: sufficiently fuzzy and arcane to spoil your day? ;-D |
| 13:21.09 | NIN101 | yeah xD. |
| 13:31.51 | DocScrutinizer | #define usb_unlimited 3; #define usb_800mA 2; #define usb_500 1; #define usb_100 0; #define usb_curlim_bitpos 6; #define reg1_usb_mask usb_unlimited << usb_curlim_pos; //set reg1 to 500mA USB:\n reg1&=~reg1_usb_mask //similar thing can be done by i2cset -m parameter; reg1|=usb_500mA<<usb_curlim_bitpos |
| 13:33.43 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: ^^^ better? |
| 13:35.58 | DocScrutinizer | reg1&=~reg1_usb_mask => reg1&=0b00111111 |
| 13:36.49 | DocScrutinizer | reg1|=usb_500mA<<usb_curlim_bitpos => reg1|=0b01000000 |
| 13:38.33 | DocScrutinizer | = i2cset -y -m 0xc0 2 0x6b 0x01 0x40 |
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| 13:38.59 | DocScrutinizer | or |
| 13:39.23 | DocScrutinizer | = i2cset -y -m 0b11000000 2 0x6b 0x01 0b01000000 |
| 13:45.01 | DocScrutinizer | a gotcha in -m: it does an implicit i2cget and then writes all 8 bit after replacing the masked bits in read value by their values from parameter. The catch is that always all 8 bits are written |
| 13:45.42 | DocScrutinizer | which matters for registers that yield differnt values on read than those you've written to the same register before |
| 13:46.07 | DocScrutinizer | luckily this doesn't apply for reg1 |
| 13:48.31 | DocScrutinizer | but it does for e.g. reg0:7 and reg4:7 |
| 13:53.52 | DocScrutinizer | actually I think the explaining comment about bit meanings in charge21.sh is as confusing as it gets |
| 13:57.19 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.20 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.22 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.23 | DocScrutinizer | better looks like |
| 13:57.25 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.26 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:13.34 | ShadowJK | lol |
| 14:13.59 | DocScrutinizer | ?? |
| 14:14.29 | DocScrutinizer | you're not agreeing? |
| 14:14.51 | RST38h | moos triumphantly |
| 14:15.46 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: what's for "lol"? |
| 14:15.53 | ShadowJK | those comments are written for my brain, which converts bits to hex by first adding up first hex digit, in decimal, before converting decimal to hex |
| 14:16.01 | ShadowJK | :P |
| 14:16.14 | DocScrutinizer | indeed ;-D |
| 14:17.59 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: could you please proofread changes done in http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh |
| 14:18.36 | ShadowJK | The way I add the limit is at the part where it ramps up from 0 to 100 to 500 to 800 to unlimited |
| 14:19.00 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, I commneted out the 2 last steps |
| 14:19.42 | DocScrutinizer | btw I guess there's no step_0 |
| 14:19.55 | ShadowJK | lol, the last two steps are already commented out on my local copy |
| 14:20.08 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 14:20.20 | ShadowJK | well step 0 is at start of config() where charger is disabled |
| 14:21.19 | DocScrutinizer | not that it matters much (unless you use i2cset -m) but I changed that too, to: |
| 14:21.23 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.24 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.06 | DocScrutinizer | should've s/no limit/500 limit/ |
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| 14:22.53 | ShadowJK | I disable charging for entering parameters, because the datasheet tells you to do it that way, and because in some circumstances I've noticed that setting some params with charger enabled results in chip throwing fault and resetting |
| 14:23.17 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 14:23.25 | DocScrutinizer | that's absolutely correct |
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| 14:24.00 | DocScrutinizer | I just felt like setting charger's USBlimit to less than max, even while charger is disabled in same command |
| 14:24.15 | ShadowJK | hm, charge21 has my old valueas for RS and CR |
| 14:24.17 | backtrackmobile | hi guys, could someone compile me a source? i have not the sdk |
| 14:24.26 | backtrackmobile | it's a translation of the camera ui2 |
| 14:25.05 | DocScrutinizer | err |
| 14:25.11 | ShadowJK | 21/132 is what I use now |
| 14:25.37 | ShadowJK | but the 132 thing isn't entirely linear throughout a charge for some reason |
| 14:25.37 | DocScrutinizer | you probably better ask in #maemo-ssu, I think there's already quite a number of translations and ongoing work |
| 14:26.06 | backtrackmobile | mmm nope becouse in the mo file there arent the functions i translated |
| 14:26.11 | DocScrutinizer | I think the whole idea to use that impedance for whatever is flawed |
| 14:29.08 | DocScrutinizer | backtrackmobile: seems we're talking at cross purposes |
| 14:29.30 | backtrackmobile | eh ? |
| 14:29.34 | backtrackmobile | :D |
| 14:30.15 | DocScrutinizer | fist of all I got no clue what exactly might be "camera ui2" |
| 14:30.23 | DocScrutinizer | first* |
| 14:31.31 | backtrackmobile | cssu ? |
| 14:31.36 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: CV in CC/CV means constant voltage at cell incl impedance |
| 14:31.50 | backtrackmobile | it's a new camera ui with more features like hd videos etc |
| 14:33.05 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: not really meant to assume (or calculate) the cell impedance and adjust constant voltage of charger so it compensates that impedance and voltage drop |
| 14:33.50 | DocScrutinizer | backtrackmobile: well, then it's what we call nikocam over at #maemo-ssu |
| 14:34.04 | DocScrutinizer | and my comment above still holds |
| 14:35.28 | BCMM_ | is there a decent way to have multiple identities in Modest? |
| 14:35.39 | backtrackmobile | i'm there too |
| 14:35.53 | BCMM_ | i wish to change my from address, but not set up a whole second account (i get both addresses forwarded to the same IMAP account) |
| 14:36.04 | ShadowJK | oh it's not about cell impedance |
| 14:36.40 | DocScrutinizer | BCMM_: not really afaik |
| 14:36.42 | ShadowJK | the cell impedance in my now broken N900 was about 500 anyways :P |
| 14:36.42 | ShadowJK | this Japod battery is around 150 |
| 14:36.44 | ShadowJK | charges much faster |
| 14:37.13 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: that's a shame. modest is open, isn't it? |
| 14:37.29 | ShadowJK | If you'd do something to compensate for cell impedance you'd get over 4.2V at the battery terminals, which is a no-no in my book (but actually happens on 2mm charge port Nokias) |
| 14:38.56 | DocScrutinizer | well, what do *you* do then with this rather random impedance figure? |
| 14:40.00 | DocScrutinizer | isn't it like you're assuming the impedance is not in cell but somewhere on the way to there, ans also increase input voltage to >4200 to compensate the fraction of it you think is not inside cell? |
| 14:40.29 | ShadowJK | it's the imaginary resistance between charger chip and battery terminals, I assume charger is either outputting the max configured charge current, OR is outputting exactly 4.2V at its own output terminals |
| 14:41.04 | DocScrutinizer | I really don't like the whole idea |
| 14:41.33 | ShadowJK | and display imaginary "System Use" and "charger output" values :P |
| 14:42.10 | DocScrutinizer | aah, you're not changing bq24150 maxvolt? |
| 14:42.55 | ShadowJK | I have a version that does that too, but it's not distributed :P |
| 14:43.03 | DocScrutinizer | good |
| 14:43.22 | ShadowJK | (it also aborts if bq27200 ever sees > 4.2V) |
| 14:47.44 | ShadowJK | http://enivax.net/jk/n900/N900-BL5J-bq24150-jk-4200-950-100.png |
| 14:47.47 | ShadowJK | http://enivax.net/jk/n900/N900-BL5J-bq24150-std-4200-950-100.png |
| 14:48.18 | ShadowJK | "std" is charge21.sh, "jk" is the not existing charge31.sh |
| 14:50.26 | DocScrutinizer | nice graphs |
| 14:50.47 | DocScrutinizer | seems the improvement from 31 is marginal |
| 14:51.06 | ShadowJK | Yeah it's marginal for full charge |
| 14:51.07 | BCMM_ | i have an odd problem with my n900 - MyDocs is not mounted, and i can not enable mass storage mode |
| 14:51.30 | BCMM_ | i recently upgraded to the new cssu-testing but i don't know if that's related |
| 14:51.36 | DocScrutinizer | which doesn't surprise as even the difference between fastcharging and 500mA charging is way less than you'd expect |
| 14:52.34 | DocScrutinizer | BCMM_: you caught the master bug ;-) |
| 14:52.46 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: known issue? |
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| 14:52.51 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 14:53.04 | DocScrutinizer | get *recent* update |
| 14:53.15 | DocScrutinizer | delete that symlink before you do |
| 14:53.23 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: what do you mean, and what symlink? |
| 14:53.35 | DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1189468&postcount=506 |
| 14:54.04 | ShadowJK | Yeah my old battery reached 4.2V almost immediately, so >500 charge current period was rather short. iirc at 50% or so. This japod battery runs full charge current (ish) to 80-ish percent |
| 14:54.21 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: i have a few files and directories in MyDocs now, presumably created by applications that didn't know it was unmounted. Do I clear those manually? |
| 14:54.25 | ShadowJK | charging is much faster, as well as 1400 mAh bq27200-reported capacity |
| 14:54.40 | merlin1991 | BCMM_: I guess you'll have to |
| 14:54.46 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, better you do that :-D |
| 14:54.48 | merlin1991 | or you'll get the fun of having a dirty mount |
| 14:54.54 | DocScrutinizer | a nice catch |
| 14:55.11 | BCMM_ | i've never actually tried mounting on a non-empty dir, in many years of linux use |
| 14:55.23 | DocScrutinizer | the evil BOFH trick to hide large amounts of the storage under a mountpoint |
| 14:55.23 | ShadowJK | (thought the knee at end of discharge is so steep, that battery is effectively empty at 3.2V anyway, compared to maybe 10% remaining wehn using an old tired battery) |
| 14:55.43 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: ah, stuff just vanishes under it? |
| 14:55.47 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 14:57.03 | BCMM_ | heh, it's a bit like when you run out of space on your harddisk |
| 14:57.08 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I guess cssu team has to investigate further, how to recover from this |
| 14:57.37 | BCMM_ | "hmm, that's not working, better look into that sometime". "that's not working either, odd". "why are so many different things suddenly broken?" |
| 14:58.02 | DocScrutinizer | dirty mount will most likely result from that bug, and the fix instructions at least should mention it and recommend how to recover |
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| 15:00.06 | DocScrutinizer | I think it's been one of the funniest ideas in unix fs design to mount on real directories |
| 15:00.45 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: what would the alternative be? make mountpoints a special FS object? |
| 15:00.55 | DocScrutinizer | for example |
| 15:00.55 | BCMM_ | actually, that wouldn't be a bad idea at all now i think about it |
| 15:01.39 | BCMM_ | since unix has never required that every FS object appears to be strictly a file or directory |
| 15:02.05 | DocScrutinizer | there are devices and whatnot as well |
| 15:02.05 | ShadowJK | I once recovered from "shadow /home on ubifs" by making a bootmenu script delete it |
| 15:03.25 | DocScrutinizer | or you at very least could require mointpoint dirs to be 000 |
| 15:03.38 | DocScrutinizer | or sth like that |
| 15:03.45 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: thanks; seems fixed now |
| 15:03.50 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
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| 15:04.33 | backtrackmobile | does a portable sdk exist? |
| 15:04.35 | joshgillies | has anyone in here attempted to install ArchARM on their n900, via the loose instructions posted here: http://dismantle-it.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/install-arch-linux-on-nokia-n900.html |
| 15:04.36 | BCMM_ | DocScrutinizer: absolutely no clue why, but my weird rotation issue is fixed now too |
| 15:04.45 | BCMM_ | well, the newer of my two rotation issues anyway |
| 15:04.46 | joshgillies | I'm giving it a go :) |
| 15:05.09 | joshgillies | knee deep in some chroot action atm, will keep everyone posted as to my progress |
| 15:05.21 | joshgillies | Oh yeah! |
| 15:06.02 | ShadowJK | backtrackmobile; closest thing is the VM image. |
| 15:07.04 | DocScrutinizer | BCMM_: you should mention this at #maemo-ssu. Might be a valuable hint regarding rotation debugging |
| 15:07.13 | backtrackmobile | vmimage it like 1.4 giga |
| 15:07.14 | BCMM_ | will do |
| 15:07.29 | backtrackmobile | too large for my data plain |
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| 15:27.23 | dafox | hi all. I'm trying to set up my n900 to sync with google. I found the following guide: http://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!category-topic/gmail/android/Pw_-bcsxKiA . I've spent a couple of hours on this already, and gmail now seems to work. Calendar also might to work, but contacts dont' want to sync so I'm stuck with 'error in communication with exchange server'. Has anyone here managed to get this to work? (and if so, plea |
| 15:27.23 | dafox | se tell me how?) |
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| 15:59.53 | dafox | ok so after deleting all my contacts I managed to complete the initial synchronisation. After importing my contacts it fails to sync contacts again. Deleting contacts and it will sync again. Added just one contact, and it synced (contact is now also on google contacts). However adding all contacts again it fails to sync. Any ideas? |
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| 17:01.17 | gormux | hi all |
| 17:01.33 | gormux | i'd like to try nitdroid, but impossible to get it working |
| 17:01.55 | gormux | kernel boots, finds modules, but then drops to shell |
| 17:02.24 | gormux | anyone could help ? |
| 17:03.23 | psycho_oreos | tried #nitdroid ? |
| 17:03.30 | Abissom | it's deprecated here. /join #nitdroid |
| 17:03.36 | gormux | ah ok :) |
| 17:03.49 | gormux | didn't remebered there was a dedicated chan |
| 17:03.51 | gormux | thanks |
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| 17:10.54 | DocScrutinizer | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 17:10.54 | infobot | maemo-multiboot is probably deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
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| 17:12.44 | gormux | DocScrutinizer: multiboot works for me (I can return to maemo without problems) |
| 17:13.16 | DocScrutinizer | gormux: not a permanent state for all we have seen |
| 17:13.35 | gormux | hum, good to know |
| 17:13.39 | gormux | i'll backup often :p |
| 17:13.48 | DocScrutinizer | better that :-D |
| 17:15.03 | DocScrutinizer | anyway keep in minf multiboot is *FLASHING* your kernel during boot |
| 17:15.29 | DocScrutinizer | you definitely don't want to abort this transaction |
| 17:16.25 | gormux | yeah, I always wait for the complete crash of nitdroid before aborting :) |
| 17:16.36 | DocScrutinizer | at least that's what I think it's doing, for all I learnt about it so far (I had preferred not to) |
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| 17:18.25 | RST38h | Meanwhile: The U.S. Navy is paying a company six figures to hack into used video game consoles and extract sensitive information. The tasks to be completed are for both offline and online data. |
| 17:18.49 | RST38h | wonders how they justified THIS one. Their PPT presentation should have looked real funny. |
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| 17:21.28 | DocScrutinizer | gormux: once you try to start your device after it shutdown due to empty battery, you're most likely in for a reflash, with multiboot |
| 17:22.30 | gormux | hum, seems strange |
| 17:22.38 | merlin1991 | BCMM_: did you resolve your ke-recv problems? |
| 17:22.38 | DocScrutinizer | since then it's not you aborting the kernel flashing, but simply the empty battery causing it |
| 17:23.09 | BCMM_ | merlin1991: yeah, followed the instructions at the forum link DocScrutinizer sent me and MyDocs appears to mount normally now |
| 17:23.28 | gormux | ah, you mean, no battery and I start a boot that fails due to not enough battery to boot ? |
| 17:23.38 | DocScrutinizer | yep, exactly |
| 17:23.59 | gormux | i'll have to pay attention then |
| 17:24.07 | DocScrutinizer | toldya |
| 17:24.34 | gormux | that's just for testing btw, I don't think i'll keep the dualboot |
| 17:24.59 | DocScrutinizer | getting rid of it not exactly a simple thing either, I heard |
| 17:25.01 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
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| 17:25.12 | gormux | I already did this |
| 17:25.28 | gormux | I tried nitdroid some time ago (and failed to get it booting) |
| 17:25.51 | gormux | iirc, it wasn't very hard |
| 17:26.38 | DocScrutinizer | well, it's deprecated here, as already been mentioned :-D |
| 17:27.24 | DocScrutinizer | since those guys *could* use proper low risk uBoot based booting |
| 17:27.41 | DocScrutinizer | if only they could get their sh** sorted |
| 17:28.14 | DocScrutinizer | I mean, meego is doing as well, so why can't they? |
| 17:28.18 | gormux | hum, well it does not seem to work well :) |
| 17:29.08 | gormux | it booted, but the you have to touch the android to configure the device... and it does not want to go further |
| 17:29.17 | gormux | the touch is detected, but... no reaction |
| 17:29.34 | DocScrutinizer | honestly, /join #nitdroid |
| 17:29.38 | gormux | I did |
| 17:33.07 | DocScrutinizer | wonders why IO-wait counts as CPU busy time in load monitor |
| 17:43.31 | ShadowJK | indeed |
| 17:43.51 | ShadowJK | It's to make people think overclocking is the answer |
| 17:44.24 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 17:44.50 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, I stumbled across it on my PC |
| 17:45.23 | DocScrutinizer | maybe IOWait is actually meant as "kernel driver busy" |
| 17:46.01 | DocScrutinizer | which would make a lot of sense with >50% IO for writing sth to a USB HDD |
| 17:47.13 | DocScrutinizer | in this sense IOwait was just another flavour of System, for CPU load |
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| 17:48.06 | DocScrutinizer | btw, big easer backup finished :-D |
| 17:48.17 | DocScrutinizer | Easter even |
| 17:50.12 | DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/162525/ |
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| 17:51.09 | DocScrutinizer | you see it's not counting IOwait to the particular process, nevertheless my CPU had a load of always >50% during that dd, mostly IOwait |
| 17:51.15 | backtrackmobile | hi guys |
| 17:51.23 | backtrackmobile | i've got some questions... |
| 17:52.03 | backtrackmobile | 1) i made a flashable custom rootfs.img, can i include on it a custom kernel and custom nolo ? |
| 17:52.42 | backtrackmobile | 2) is it possible to make a flasable vanilla ? |
| 17:52.54 | DocScrutinizer | google for fiascogen |
| 17:53.03 | backtrackmobile | vanilla |
| 17:53.06 | backtrackmobile | not fisco |
| 17:53.08 | backtrackmobile | fiasco |
| 17:53.13 | DocScrutinizer | 2) don't think we got the tools for that |
| 17:53.14 | backtrackmobile | i alredy have fisco |
| 17:53.38 | backtrackmobile | ummm4 |
| 17:53.51 | DocScrutinizer | and also we don't exactly know how to create custom NOLO |
| 17:53.59 | backtrackmobile | ok, and, can we change the Nokia Logo on Nolo? |
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| 17:54.09 | DocScrutinizer | some users did |
| 17:54.14 | DocScrutinizer | nuke it |
| 17:54.30 | DocScrutinizer | no new img though, as the format is kinda uberscrewed |
| 17:54.32 | backtrackmobile | i did it to, but with changed color.. i want to delete the nokia logo :D |
| 17:55.48 | merlin1991 | Fsckd kubuntu live disk, boooooot already |
| 17:55.57 | DocScrutinizer | I think the easiest way been to set foreground==background |
| 17:56.18 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: did you oil it? |
| 17:57.04 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: you must properly apply lubricant, otherwise buntkuh live never boots ;-P |
| 17:57.19 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 17:57.48 | merlin1991 | hm I got to the try/install ubuntu screen, now watching a black screen |
| 17:58.22 | merlin1991 | You've got to be kidding me :/ |
| 17:58.35 | DocScrutinizer | yawns and idly ponders about other nasty puns to run against buntkuh |
| 17:58.40 | merlin1991 | Oversized output towards the display |
| 17:58.46 | backtrackmobile | i had a serius problem with ubu 3 days ago, but.. was not ubu :) was the videocard buffer |
| 17:58.50 | backtrackmobile | :D |
| 17:59.26 | backtrackmobile | there was some black pixels, some broken windows :D and many reboots :D |
| 18:00.12 | merlin1991 | Well I nuked grub by instling another copy of win7 |
| 18:00.27 | joshgillies | is there work on getting the linux 3.x kernel onto the n900? |
| 18:00.28 | DocScrutinizer | hates how canonical/shuttleworth hijacked linux and now pervert it into some windows for geeks, while not at all caring about linux main or anything |
| 18:00.48 | merlin1991 | now trying to boot ANY amd64 livedisk to get a grub |
| 18:00.54 | merlin1991 | Err get a chroot |
| 18:01.15 | backtrackmobile | but restore the grub its easy |
| 18:01.15 | DocScrutinizer | joshgillies: yep, on SHR |
| 18:01.24 | DocScrutinizer | not on maemo though |
| 18:02.07 | joshgillies | DocScrutinizer any furth info for me? |
| 18:03.01 | joshgillies | DocScrutinizer np Google to the rescue |
| 18:03.03 | joshgillies | :D |
| 18:03.09 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.24 | DocScrutinizer | #openmoko-cdevel |
| 18:03.47 | DocScrutinizer | dunno what mer/nemo is doing wrt kernel |
| 18:07.32 | joshgillies | gives me some direction none the less, thanks for the DocScrutinizer |
| 18:07.39 | joshgillies | that* |
| 18:08.04 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
| 18:09.50 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: get a grub-"floppy", boot to your linux, reinstall grub_HDD from real system |
| 18:10.43 | DocScrutinizer | seems quite a number of linux installation CDs also offer "boot to system on HDD" |
| 18:11.34 | DocScrutinizer | the god ol' bootfloppy |
| 18:11.39 | DocScrutinizer | good* |
| 18:12.09 | DocScrutinizer | now in disguise as CD/DVD |
| 18:12.38 | DocScrutinizer | aaah, sorry |
| 18:13.07 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki floppy disk |
| 18:13.37 | DocScrutinizer | I can't expect you ever heard of this ancient technology ;-D |
| 18:14.40 | backtrackmobile | merlinoooo ma che stai facendo ? <<< what are you doing ? |
| 18:15.02 | backtrackmobile | move, i'm becoming old... |
| 18:15.08 | backtrackmobile | :D |
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| 18:32.37 | merlin1991 | Nomodeset fixed that so far |
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| 19:11.11 | dafox | ok, so in case anyone cares: it seems that if you add your contacts back with at most 5 or so at a time you can get them to show up in your google contacts, and syncing works. Note: before starting my google contacts were empty, and everything was on my n900 only. I backup my n900's contacts, synced to empty n900 to empty google contacts, and then everytime imported 5 contacts back into the n900, and then synced to google contacts. repeat for all |
| 19:11.11 | dafox | contacts. |
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| 21:22.15 | vi__ | hi ho |
| 21:22.25 | merlin1991 | ho hi |
| 21:22.33 | vi__ | so what is this jazz with ke-recv I am seeing? |
| 21:23.07 | merlin1991 | bad build that placed a symlink in /etc/init.d which does not get removed by dpkg upon upgrading to the clean build |
| 21:23.45 | vi__ | what did the SL point to? |
| 21:24.03 | merlin1991 | something that doesn't exist on the n900 |
| 21:24.07 | vi__ | lols |
| 21:24.13 | merlin1991 | silly newer debhelper does things for you regarding upstart |
| 21:24.26 | merlin1991 | which actually messes things in case you compile for n900 |
| 21:24.30 | vi__ | well I guess that is why it is called testing branch. |
| 21:24.40 | merlin1991 | partly :) |
| 21:24.49 | merlin1991 | but we always aim to fix things quickly |
| 21:25.16 | vi__ | you will never get a job with M$ with that kind of attitude. |
| 21:25.26 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 21:25.46 | vi__ | so noob question. |
| 21:26.08 | vi__ | is it safe to update yet? |
| 21:26.13 | merlin1991 | it's sage by now |
| 21:26.20 | vi__ | I have a standard disk layout. |
| 21:26.24 | merlin1991 | just make sure your catalogues include the 3.1 update |
| 21:26.29 | vi__ | it is sage. |
| 21:26.43 | merlin1991 | dang |
| 21:26.54 | merlin1991 | s/sage/safe/ :D |
| 21:27.42 | vi__ | it is going now! |
| 21:28.14 | vi__ | holds breath |
| 21:28.29 | merlin1991 | if it goes bad you're only 3 cmdlines away from fixing it again :) |
| 21:28.33 | merlin1991 | though it shouldn't |
| 21:29.07 | vi__ | what is the symptom of the problem? |
| 21:29.17 | merlin1991 | no mydocs |
| 21:29.30 | vi__ | heh |
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| 21:30.20 | vi__ | I used to want to combine mydocs and /home. |
| 21:30.38 | vi__ | then i realised it would brake backup menu |
| 21:30.39 | merlin1991 | I yielded in quite a funky bugreport: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12594 |
| 21:30.40 | povbot | 04Bug 12594: the todays CSSU update messed up my N900 completely !!! |
| 21:31.02 | merlin1991 | s/quite a/a quite/ |
| 21:31.04 | povbot | 04Bug 12594: the todays CSSU update messed up my N900 completely !!! |
| 21:31.52 | vi__ | ok |
| 21:32.00 | vi__ | I shall now reboot |
| 21:32.02 | merlin1991 | btw vi__ when you've got cssu specific questions you've got an even better chance for answers over in #maemo-ssu |
| 21:32.14 | vi__ | mm, ok. |
| 21:32.27 | vi__ | is that where the cool kids hang out nowa days? |
| 21:32.43 | lolcat | povbot: Oo, that looks unfortunate |
| 21:32.43 | povbot | lolcat: Error: "Oo," is not a valid command. |
| 21:33.08 | merlin1991 | it is where the cssu devs hang out, dunno if we're the cool kids :D |
| 21:34.06 | vi__ | yeah, you guys are pretty cool. I wish my e-peen was as massive. |
| 21:34.11 | vi__ | brb |
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