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| 08:58.32 | godtrunks | hi |
| 08:58.53 | godtrunks | i have a nokia n800 OS2008 |
| 08:59.13 | godtrunks | and when i try to install something |
| 08:59.38 | godtrunks | it says that i have lib files missing. What can i do? |
| 09:00.20 | godtrunks | some help here guys? |
| 09:02.24 | Khertan | hi godtrunks |
| 09:02.32 | Khertan | what said apt-get install -f ? |
| 09:03.31 | godtrunks | i try with apt-get upgrade -f |
| 09:04.54 | godtrunks | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 184 not upgraded |
| 09:05.03 | godtrunks | with apt-get install -f |
| 09:05.09 | godtrunks | any ideea? |
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| 09:07.27 | MrPingu | 184 not upgraded :o Might be an good idea to update... |
| 09:11.08 | godtrunks | how? |
| 09:11.20 | godtrunks | i try with apt-get update |
| 09:11.25 | godtrunks | nothing |
| 09:11.32 | godtrunks | apt-get upgrade |
| 09:11.34 | godtrunks | nothing |
| 09:11.55 | godtrunks | i try with "-f "and without |
| 09:12.01 | godtrunks | nothing |
| 09:12.22 | godtrunks | same problems when i try ti install.i have all repositories |
| 09:12.30 | godtrunks | same problem |
| 09:13.01 | MrPingu | What do you mean exactly with "nothing" ? |
| 09:13.34 | godtrunks | is not updated or upgraded |
| 09:14.45 | godtrunks | i have lib files missing libdbus-1-3, libdbus-glib-1-2 libgcc1 libglib2.0-0 and the list continues |
| 09:14.55 | godtrunks | i have lib files missing libdbus-1-3, libdbus-glib-1-2 libgcc1 libglib2.0-0 and the list continue |
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| 09:16.12 | godtrunks | i tryed to flash the device and same problem |
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| 09:20.03 | godtrunks | some hlp? |
| 09:20.16 | Khertan | what is your list of repository ? |
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| 09:34.37 | godtrunks | all of them |
| 09:34.43 | godtrunks | i think |
| 09:35.08 | godtrunks | can i give a link from where i've got my repository? |
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| 09:43.15 | ShadowJK | libdbus-1-3 is installed by default? |
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| 09:45.01 | godtrunks | yes |
| 09:52.01 | ShadowJK | so it should be there when flashed, and also in nokia's repo |
| 09:52.37 | ShadowJK | looks like it would be quite impossible to remove too |
| 10:01.14 | godtrunks | and what can i do? |
| 10:02.33 | ShadowJK | oh wait, you have N800 |
| 10:02.44 | ShadowJK | I didn't scroll far up enough |
| 10:02.52 | godtrunks | yes |
| 10:04.11 | ShadowJK | although my N800 also has libdbus-1-3, ver 1.0.2-0osso14 |
| 10:04.46 | godtrunks | any ideea? |
| 10:04.49 | godtrunks | what can i do? |
| 10:05.00 | ShadowJK | "all of them" sounds like a bad choice of repositoried for any device |
| 10:05.35 | godtrunks | they ar for OS2008 |
| 10:05.42 | godtrunks | they are for OS2008 |
| 10:06.13 | godtrunks | and if i install OS2007 or OS2006 all applications are working |
| 10:06.40 | godtrunks | but on OS2008 i have those lib files missing |
| 10:09.04 | godtrunks | any ideea? |
| 10:09.50 | ShadowJK | example of an app that wont install? |
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| 10:11.00 | godtrunks | pidgin |
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| 10:12.42 | ShadowJK | can you pastebin output of: apt-cache show pidgin | grep Filename |
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| 10:13.50 | godtrunks | w8 |
| 10:14.31 | godtrunks | i have to reboot my device |
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| 10:15.44 | godtrunks | and the device is not starting any more |
| 10:15.56 | godtrunks | is rebooting |
| 10:15.58 | godtrunks | :| |
| 10:16.10 | ShadowJK | i tried simulate with apt-get on my N800 (which has diablo extras repo enabled) and N810 (diablo extras devel), and that seemed fine |
| 10:16.16 | godtrunks | it won't star |
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| 10:16.37 | godtrunks | my n800 is not starting any more |
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| 10:21.59 | ShadowJK | remove battery, put it back in |
| 10:22.44 | ShadowJK | although if you did anything where apt-get asked if you are sure, and you had to type yes, it probably blew away the os |
| 10:24.18 | godtrunks | i use apt-get install --reinstall and some applications |
| 10:24.39 | godtrunks | i flash-it now is ok |
| 10:28.36 | ShadowJK | Well I have to leave for work, I'll check irc later if I have time |
| 10:28.44 | godtrunks | ok |
| 10:28.47 | godtrunks | now is working |
| 10:28.59 | godtrunks | i think i had few bad repository |
| 10:29.17 | godtrunks | i think i had a repository from my n900 |
| 10:29.52 | godtrunks | now my n800 is working fine and i had install pidgin with no errors |
| 10:33.15 | ShadowJK | anything with "fremantle" in the name is N900 |
| 10:33.43 | godtrunks | hm.. |
| 10:34.12 | godtrunks | i'm sure that i had one repository from n900 because i saw sib |
| 10:34.20 | godtrunks | a video player |
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| 10:38.26 | totalizator | self therapy - I've just dropped my n900 and it fallen apart :O (just the battery and cover); fortunately it works well again |
| 10:43.00 | godtrunks | i have sent my n900 to warranty |
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| 13:16.54 | ShadowJK | MPlayer from N900 repository would crash on N800 even if it installed |
| 13:17.27 | ShadowJK | due to MPlayer on N900 making use of the Neon extensions in the Cortex A8 cpu |
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| 13:42.36 | Sicelo | ~flashing |
| 13:42.37 | infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 14:31.08 | jhb | I get the beloved "All telephony functions, including emergency calls, are disabled due to a communication error. To recover, you might have to reboot the device". Tried paper, bent the 6 sim connectors. Doesn't make any difference. Any suggestions? |
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| 14:47.52 | jhb | and if there is no (obvious) solution: I still have warranty. Assumiing that nokia won't give me another n900, how can I make sure that I get a n9 as a replacement (or even better: n950 )? |
| 14:48.17 | StyXman | no n950 for you |
| 14:48.25 | StyXman | or for anyone |
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| 18:29.22 | merlin1991 | anybody from italy/czech/denmark/norway here who could translate a string for cssu to their own language? |
| 18:30.10 | guly | is from italy |
| 18:30.54 | merlin1991 | the string in question is "Continous view" and is the caption to an option in the pdf-viewer that enables "normal" scrolling (the stock viewer only let's you scroll within one page and has buttons for pageswitch) |
| 18:33.02 | merlin1991 | guly: ^^ |
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| 18:38.09 | MrPingu | Hi |
| 18:39.01 | guly | osx translated it as "Pagina singola continua" |
| 18:39.13 | freemangordon | too long :( |
| 18:39.16 | guly | maybe just pagina continua ? |
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| 18:39.33 | freemangordon | NFC, I am bulgarian :D |
| 18:39.40 | freemangordon | actually sounds good |
| 18:39.43 | merlin1991 | guly: nfc aswell, you have to know :) |
| 18:39.54 | MrPingu | My screen is scratched, don't ask me how. I was always very gentle with my leather case |
| 18:40.17 | villager | I'm from Norway, but probably could not translate that... evince translates "Continuous" as "Sammenhengende", but I'm not sure what to use for "view" |
| 18:41.08 | MrPingu | and somehow the uppermost film, is, well, sort of burned away. Don't know how to describe it but anyway, what I wanted to ask: Do I only need to replace the digitizer? |
| 18:41.27 | MrPingu | Guys, already got dutch translation? |
| 18:41.27 | merlin1991 | villager: if you find a better caption that does not translate directly to continuous view it's fine aswell |
| 18:41.32 | guly | isn't "pagina continua" short enough? |
| 18:41.41 | merlin1991 | pagina continua is short enough |
| 18:41.46 | merlin1991 | it just has to fit funciton |
| 18:42.03 | guly | singola means single, it's useless IMO |
| 18:42.07 | freemangordon | MrPingu, AFAIK no |
| 18:42.41 | villager | merlin1991: what is the caption for the "not continuous" view? or is it a checkbox? |
| 18:42.51 | merlin1991 | checkbox |
| 18:43.16 | freemangordon | guly, "pagina continua" should be translated as continious page? or pages? |
| 18:43.26 | guly | continous page |
| 18:43.34 | guly | paginE for pages |
| 18:43.39 | freemangordon | should be plural |
| 18:43.42 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 18:43.56 | MrPingu | "Doorlopende pagina's" = continious pages |
| 18:44.36 | MrPingu | doesn't fit "continious scroll" better??? |
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| 18:44.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991, "Pagine continua"? It is not the same as "continuous view", but ... |
| 18:45.06 | guly | pagine continue actually |
| 18:45.13 | guly | both should be plural |
| 18:45.35 | freemangordon | ok :) |
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| 18:45.54 | villager | merlin1991: I suppose "Vis sammenhengende" (which means "Show contiguous" or something) would work for me |
| 18:45.59 | merlin1991 | we'll go with it, if someone from italy comes and says "This makes no sense use x instead we'll use x" |
| 18:46.29 | guly | i'll be banned? :) |
| 18:47.46 | MrPingu | I think in dutch this would fit the function: "doorlopende pagina's" |
| 18:47.55 | MrPingu | Any answer on my first question? |
| 18:49.00 | MrPingu | About the scratched screen; do I only need to replace digitizer? |
| 18:49.34 | villager | MrPingu: probably, but the experts aren't here right now, you could wait until they arrive |
| 18:50.45 | MrPingu | Still I am angry because I have NFC how a kind of hole created itself on my screen |
| 18:51.30 | MrPingu | well I had it already some time, but now another part of the screen got a hole... |
| 18:51.57 | MrPingu | Not really a hole, but it looks like the uppermost film is scratched off =( |
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| 18:53.23 | MrPingu | merlin1991, freemangordon: Noted my dutch translation? |
| 18:53.28 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 18:53.43 | merlin1991 | thanks for all the translations, got em all now :) |
| 18:55.05 | MrPingu | I will sit back then, and wait. Or is there something else I can do to please you? |
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| 19:36.52 | Pali | ~seen jonwil |
| 19:37.05 | infobot | jonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 3h 35m 30s ago, saying: 'not'. |
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| 19:41.19 | Pali | is there any other tool which can show cell broadcast sms? |
| 19:42.01 | Pali | cbs widget show me only @@@@..., see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1187687#post1187687 |
| 19:42.47 | Pali | last week it worked correctly (same operator, same position), now not working |
| 19:47.33 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, do you know something more about this ^^^ ? |
| 19:47.47 | Sicelo | not on N900, yet. btw, did you try reinstall the libs as shown on the tmo thread? |
| 19:48.08 | Pali | I will try now |
| 19:48.51 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: ope |
| 19:48.53 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 19:49.00 | Sicelo | i also got that in the early days (posing on tmo as qhubekela). reinstalling them solved my problem |
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| 19:58.16 | Pali | Sicelo, reinstalling not helped |
| 19:58.44 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, is there any other tool/script/program? |
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| 19:59.01 | Pali | or only that one widget? |
| 19:59.37 | Sicelo | only that one |
| 19:59.51 | Sicelo | for now, at least |
| 20:01.03 | Sicelo | at least you're a devel.. jonwil will probably ask you to run gdb... he asked me at that time, but i was clueless, lol |
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| 20:06.27 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: for SMSCB? |
| 20:07.12 | Pali | yes |
| 20:07.50 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/bin/smscb.py |
| 20:08.22 | Pali | Sicelo, I see that widget code only decode dbus message, so first I need to know if problem is in decoding or in maemo system |
| 20:08.39 | Sicelo | i've always known about that file DocScrutinizer.. never tried it :P |
| 20:08.56 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, thanks |
| 20:09.01 | DocScrutinizer | YW |
| 20:11.45 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, your script show me empty message |
| 20:11.53 | Pali | and not @@@@@@ as widget |
| 20:12.21 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, that probably means the msg consists oof nonprinting chars |
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| 20:12.35 | Sicelo | gives it a try too.. |
| 20:13.23 | DocScrutinizer | afaik @ == <null> with 7th bit set, or sth |
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| 20:13.43 | Sicelo | btw, DocScrutinizer, what would i modify in your script to get Channel stuff in Channel 52? |
| 20:13.53 | DocScrutinizer | at least ctrl-@ should result in 0x00 |
| 20:14.10 | DocScrutinizer | call it with -channel 52 |
| 20:14.19 | Sicelo | great :) |
| 20:15.50 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, I get only messages from channels 50 and 471 |
| 20:16.03 | DocScrutinizer | more than I get |
| 20:16.17 | DocScrutinizer | I get only chan221 |
| 20:17.23 | DocScrutinizer | I think former conventions considered maybe chan1 or chan0 as index channel |
| 20:17.39 | DocScrutinizer | probably nobody ever used SMSCB that way |
| 20:18.05 | DocScrutinizer | and chan50 is "homezone" channel afaik |
| 20:18.15 | DocScrutinizer | at least in some networks |
| 20:18.47 | Sicelo | yeah, i notice Nokia N-Gage and Nokia 9300i use Ch1 as index chan |
| 20:19.10 | DocScrutinizer | you know, there've been tariffs like "call for a quarter of regular fee to the town you're actually in recently" |
| 20:19.51 | DocScrutinizer | for that I think they sent name of town or area code in chan50 |
| 20:20.50 | DocScrutinizer | SIM implemented a special carrier name display that had this info under the network name |
| 20:21.25 | DocScrutinizer | menu item usually called "display homezone" or sth |
| 20:24.06 | Pali | I'm geting this dbus message: dbus.Array([], signature=dbus.Signature('y')) |
| 20:24.56 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, I do not know python, but I added: print 'Message: \'%s\'' % pdumsg" |
| 20:25.07 | Pali | and it show me that output |
| 20:25.18 | DocScrutinizer | umm, could you paste a full dbus-monitor for the relevant msg? |
| 20:25.41 | Pali | in sesstion or system mode? |
| 20:25.50 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
| 20:26.11 | DocScrutinizer | bus = dbus.SystemBus() |
| 20:28.21 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, here is: http://pastebin.com/Di58VvgY |
| 20:30.21 | DocScrutinizer | looks like unpatched libsms |
| 20:31.21 | Pali | I uninstalled and installed widget again |
| 20:31.40 | DocScrutinizer | please simply "install" libsms.so |
| 20:32.03 | Pali | $ md5sum /usr/lib/libsms.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libsms.so.0.0.0.distrib |
| 20:32.03 | Pali | fff53e239c8a46c97015a8ef78f9e7ad /usr/lib/libsms.so.0.0.0 |
| 20:32.03 | Pali | 6d9560f64f97dd18ccbd3119229717ae /usr/lib/libsms.so.0.0.0.distrib |
| 20:32.10 | DocScrutinizer | first check your current version via md5sum though |
| 20:32.16 | DocScrutinizer | heh :-D |
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| 20:33.16 | DocScrutinizer | jonwil |
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| 20:33.50 | vi__ | is anyone here using cssu-testing? |
| 20:34.12 | DocScrutinizer | o| |
| 20:34.14 | Sicelo | Pali: i get same output as yours on both libsms.. |
| 20:34.29 | vi__ | good evening |
| 20:34.37 | merlin1991 | vi__: pretty much everyone in here uses cssu-testing |
| 20:34.42 | Pali | I do not belive, not it started working |
| 20:34.53 | Sicelo | :P |
| 20:34.59 | Pali | I restarted 3 times csd |
| 20:35.01 | vi__ | I assumed so! but assumptions make... |
| 20:35.09 | vi__ | me look like a dick |
| 20:35.10 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: ?? |
| 20:35.16 | DocScrutinizer | not it started? |
| 20:35.36 | Pali | I killed 3 times csd daemon |
| 20:35.46 | vi__ | has anyone noticed any strange behaviour with respect to lock/unlocking of device? |
| 20:35.55 | Pali | and after then I got messages |
| 20:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | oooh |
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| 20:36.06 | DocScrutinizer | so NOW it started |
| 20:36.19 | freemangordon | vi__ strange as in? |
| 20:36.27 | Sicelo | Pali: it didn't ask for a reboot when installing? iirc it does |
| 20:36.42 | vi__ | that is sometimes it takes 2 presses of the lock to unlock |
| 20:36.47 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: sure you'll need a reboot or at least a restart of all services that use libsms.so |
| 20:37.03 | freemangordon | vi__, you mean the power button? |
| 20:37.15 | vi__ | as if the screen is dark but not really locked then the first press locks it. |
| 20:37.17 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, I reinstalled widget in weekend too + rebooted phone |
| 20:37.31 | Pali | and that day it does not worked |
| 20:37.31 | vi__ | freemangordon: no, slide switch at side |
| 20:37.51 | DocScrutinizer | vi__: I occasionally see that |
| 20:37.58 | vi__ | mmm |
| 20:38.03 | freemangordon | vi__, that sounds like a norml behaviour |
| 20:38.03 | Pali | seems I found problem why widget showing @@@@@@ |
| 20:38.17 | DocScrutinizer | indeed, never thought it's related to cssu |
| 20:38.48 | Pali | there is missing one memset(pdu, 0, sizeof(pdu)); |
| 20:38.53 | vi__ | odd, it only started happening recently. cssu being the only thing I had updated suggested I should ask. |
| 20:39.22 | freemangordon | if the deivce isn't locked you should be able to tap the screen even if blank |
| 20:39.26 | vi__ | elusive bug, I WILL SMASH U |
| 20:39.40 | DocScrutinizer | that it never hit my mind doesn't mean it's actually unrelated |
| 20:39.47 | freemangordon | sure |
| 20:39.51 | vi__ | freemangordon: that depends if you have autolock on/off |
| 20:40.05 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 20:40.30 | DocScrutinizer | and I think there are independent timers for lock and dim |
| 20:40.38 | DocScrutinizer | and another one for predim |
| 20:40.49 | vi__ | i have a widget for toggling it. which was adding another layer of unknown on the problem. |
| 20:40.57 | vi__ | DocScrutinizer: yes |
| 20:41.04 | freemangordon | vi__, what is the expected behaviour? |
| 20:41.27 | Sicelo | Pali: sounds good :) |
| 20:41.45 | Pali | or maybe not :-( |
| 20:41.52 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, good luck to all of you, keep on hacking, while I'm out for a beer |
| 20:42.11 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: want some news that will surely ruin your day before that beer? :) |
| 20:42.23 | DocScrutinizer | ugh |
| 20:42.36 | merlin1991 | javispedro: enlighten us :D |
| 20:42.42 | javispedro | http://lwn.net/Articles/490413/ (not for the faint of heart!) |
| 20:42.43 | DocScrutinizer | wakelocks in main? |
| 20:42.44 | NIN101 | systemd and udev merge? |
| 20:42.48 | javispedro | NIN101: bingo! |
| 20:43.00 | DocScrutinizer | WAAAH |
| 20:43.02 | ShadowJK | i thought wakelocks already went in |
| 20:43.16 | vi__ | freemangordon: i expect:press unlock button. Phone unlocks. |
| 20:43.23 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: :nod: |
| 20:43.45 | vi__ | i get:press unlock. nothing. press unlock again, phone unlocks. |
| 20:43.45 | DocScrutinizer | vi__: if it's locked, only |
| 20:44.00 | DocScrutinizer | if it's unlocked, lockslider will lock |
| 20:44.19 | NIN101 | "Distributions not wishing to adopt systemd can build udev pretty much |
| 20:44.19 | NIN101 | the same way as before, however should then use the systemd tarball |
| 20:44.19 | NIN101 | instead of the udev tarball and package only what is necessary of the |
| 20:44.19 | NIN101 | resulting build." |
| 20:44.59 | DocScrutinizer | I guess I have to fork my own main |
| 20:45.06 | javispedro | until he gets tired of it and puts systemd on initrd too |
| 20:45.16 | DocScrutinizer | I'll call it scrotux |
| 20:45.19 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
| 20:45.57 | javispedro | in a few months dbus-daemon will be a systemd plugin |
| 20:46.00 | NIN101 | "The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible with non-systemd init systems for a long time." "for a long time..." => one day the day will come... |
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| 20:46.20 | javispedro | cause, dbus-daemon does autoactivation of services! it clearly shares a lot of code with systemd. |
| 20:46.33 | DocScrutinizer | in a few months somebody will kill poettering |
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| 20:47.52 | javispedro | I ponder what kind of IPC will I run in a few months, will it be now-in-the-kernel Android Binder? Some systemd plugin? Place your bets! |
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| 20:49.14 | NIN101 | after all, we don't have to go on the red hat road, one can live perfectly without pulseaudio, avahi, systemd and even udev actually. |
| 20:49.31 | javispedro | not true :( |
| 20:49.43 | javispedro | on gnome2 it was only a few parts depending on PA |
| 20:49.57 | javispedro | but half of gnome3 depends on systemd, the other half on PA, and all of it on udev |
| 20:50.16 | NIN101 | then don't use gnome3 if you don't like that :P |
| 20:51.03 | javispedro | so I will be kept on gnome2 forever, then end up hating all DEs and ranting all day :( |
| 20:52.02 | MrPingu | Any hardware experst here? Regarding screen/digitizer/ |
| 20:52.12 | javispedro | since they dropped HAL, even getting rid of udev is probably hard |
| 20:52.24 | javispedro | the fun thing is that udev's role has been reduced to basically HAL's... |
| 20:52.45 | merlin1991 | lets all use mdev |
| 20:52.53 | merlin1991 | though why not simply use emacs? |
| 20:53.00 | javispedro | devtmpfs, which is on the kernel, works very well |
| 20:53.06 | merlin1991 | I'm sure it has systemd somewhere in its codebase :D |
| 20:53.55 | javispedro | devfs -> udev -> hal -> udev -> udev (~= hal) -> devtmpfs (~= devfs) |
| 20:54.15 | Pali | In this repo is my two changes (do not show @@@@ and fix updating operator name) for cbs widget: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-operator-name-cbs-widget |
| 20:54.26 | Pali | can somebody compile it? |
| 20:54.51 | Pali | Now I do not have scratchbox for compiling |
| 20:55.46 | merlin1991 | javispedro: cronological evolution? |
| 20:55.50 | merlin1991 | or what does that graph contain? |
| 20:55.58 | javispedro | merlin1991: cronological |
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| 20:56.27 | javispedro | it's not accurate though (hal and udev's roles are not the same by any margin) |
| 20:56.42 | javispedro | but I find it funny that we end up at the same place as in the early 2000s. |
| 21:04.49 | Pali | merlin1991, let me know when you create/re tvout l10n |
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| 21:07.38 | javispedro | Pali: I can build it, FREMANTLE_ARMEL target? |
| 21:07.51 | Pali | yes |
| 21:08.03 | Pali | but you also need some dependences from cssu |
| 21:08.08 | javispedro | ah :( |
| 21:08.47 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libconnui-dev |
| 21:09.00 | Pali | this package should be enought I think |
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| 21:11.55 | javispedro | uh, shlibdeps is broken |
| 21:12.34 | javispedro | why does libconnui-dev ship _actual library binaries_? |
| 21:13.08 | javispedro | in any case, this means someone needs to uncomment the dh_makeshlibs call in rules |
| 21:15.23 | javispedro | Pali: http://depot.javispedro.com/temp/ |
| 21:16.15 | Pali | thanks! |
| 21:18.54 | merlin1991 | javispedro: because the library binaires are only avaiable on device |
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| 21:19.01 | merlin1991 | but not in a package for the scratchbox |
| 21:19.16 | merlin1991 | so linking with headers only is afaik not that easy :D |
| 21:19.24 | javispedro | merlin1991: but does the license allow this? |
| 21:19.45 | javispedro | merlin1991: if so, I'm all for it.. but please remember to uncomment dh_makeshlibs |
| 21:20.18 | merlin1991 | jonwil did the package with the famous exception for nokia binaries on tmo in mind |
| 21:20.27 | javispedro | ah |
| 21:20.29 | merlin1991 | strictly speaking the license does not allow this |
| 21:20.34 | javispedro | will ping him next time then |
| 21:20.55 | javispedro | (without makeshlibs the package might be unusable on e.g. autobuilder) |
| 21:21.34 | javispedro | unless there's a on-device package that does that and I can't see it on sbox :P |
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| 21:39.42 | Pali | javispedro, thanks very much! my patches working |
| 21:39.57 | Pali | merlin1991, can I megre my changes to cssu git? |
| 21:40.25 | merlin1991 | is it the string compare for 5 @? |
| 21:40.40 | Pali | yes |
| 21:41.15 | Pali | see both changes: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-operator-name-cbs-widget/commits/master |
| 21:41.17 | merlin1991 | and you think it really is bogus information from the network and nothing wrong elsewhere? |
| 21:41.45 | Pali | merlin1991, I do not know where is problem, but dbus-monitor showed me empty array |
| 21:42.01 | Pali | I think that there is some memory bug |
| 21:42.17 | Pali | or sms-*.c code changing it to @@@.... |
| 21:42.33 | Pali | at least everybody who had problems, got only a lot of @@@@@@.... |
| 21:43.08 | merlin1991 | so basicly the widget should ignore those? |
| 21:43.27 | Pali | I think yes |
| 21:43.35 | merlin1991 | merge away :) |
| 21:44.24 | Pali | Ok, I will push changes to cssu repo |
| 21:45.44 | Pali | done |
| 21:46.37 | Pali | there is one problem with this package: when I use dpkg -P widget... it remove both patched and unpatched libsms.so* libraries |
| 21:46.52 | Pali | so this must be fixed before pushing package to cssu!!! |
| 21:47.24 | Pali | removing libsms library can be fixed by reinstalling libsms0 package from nokia repo |
| 21:48.02 | merlin1991 | hm that indeed is bad |
| 21:48.21 | Pali | I will fix it in next days |
| 21:48.30 | Pali | now I'm going offline, bye |
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| 22:11.55 | Vib3 | hi |
| 22:12.13 | javispedro | yw Pali |
| 22:12.16 | Vib3 | installed just dropbear ssh client but cant find "ssh" |
| 22:12.38 | javispedro | Vib3: you can use dpkg -L <packagename> to find the list of files a package installed |
| 22:12.57 | javispedro | maybe you can find some other binary in /usr/bin |
| 22:14.53 | Vib3 | k |
| 22:15.20 | Vib3 | but theres not "ssh" or dropbeard bin, hmmm |
| 22:15.41 | javispedro | btw, I suggest you skip dropbear and use openssh directly |
| 22:15.59 | javispedro | you can reduce ssh memory usage (like disabling privilege separation) if that's what concerns you |
| 22:16.16 | javispedro | with bare dropbear, you won't even have sftp-server |
| 22:16.34 | Vib3 | k, just tried to try dropbear :p |
| 22:16.40 | Vib3 | openssh is good |
| 22:17.05 | javispedro | dropbear is mostly for platforms that are way more "embedded" than ours ;) |
| 22:17.46 | Vib3 | needed to flash so reinstalling software here.. |
| 22:17.56 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: indeed |
| 22:18.12 | Vib3 | hmm but can't find openssh in repos |
| 22:18.59 | DocScrutinizer | ??? |
| 22:19.40 | DocScrutinizer | t900:~# apt-cache search openssh |
| 22:19.41 | Vib3 | added extras, e-devel and e-testing but not found |
| 22:19.41 | DocScrutinizer | libssl0.9.8 - SSL shared libraries |
| 22:19.43 | DocScrutinizer | openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement |
| 22:19.44 | DocScrutinizer | openssh-common - Common files fro ssh server and client |
| 22:19.46 | DocScrutinizer | openssh-client - Secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement |
| 22:19.47 | DocScrutinizer | openssh - Secure shell client and server |
| 22:20.41 | DocScrutinizer | t900:~# apt-cache policy openssh |
| 22:20.43 | DocScrutinizer | openssh: |
| 22:20.44 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.50 | Vib3 | yea |
| 22:20.55 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.56 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.04 | Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: thx :D |
| 22:21.39 | Vib3 | app manager didn't show it cos I typed "ssh", it just showed dropbear SSH things |
| 22:21.43 | Vib3 | lolled |
| 22:23.32 | Vib3 | but found it now using "openssh" |
| 22:24.01 | DocScrutinizer | "*" helps a lot |
| 22:24.38 | DocScrutinizer | apt-cache search '.*ssh.*' |
| 22:24.40 | Vib3 | I thought it would search that string inside strings by default :p |
| 22:24.46 | Vib3 | k |
| 22:25.03 | Vib3 | cos I do things always like that :p |
| 22:25.44 | Vib3 | now to sleeep |
| 22:25.52 | DocScrutinizer | samesame |
| 22:25.56 | DocScrutinizer | o/ |
| 22:25.57 | Vib3 | thx & bye! -> |
| 22:27.49 | ShadowJK | heh that typing "ssh" and then not finding openssh thing happened to me last week :) |
| 22:29.06 | FIQ | seriously, HAM is completly useless |
| 22:29.51 | FIQ | "oh, you clicked a button? please let me update the package list! you know, this MUST be done everytime you do sometning" |
| 22:30.21 | FIQ | and the fact that I've devel activated atm didn't really make the situation better |
| 22:31.56 | FIQ | great, now it stopped working completly |
| 22:32.47 | FIQ | where is the mirrorlist.d or whatever it's named in apt/n900? |
| 22:42.04 | DocScrutinizer | FIQ: indeed, though there's some code that's supposed to help with that particular problem. Usually it should update only after 2h or sth, not faster |
| 22:42.24 | DocScrutinizer | but the code stinks, and obviously because it's rotten |
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| 22:43.25 | FIQ | is there a solution for this? I prefer the CLI, but the GUI has a more nice way to scroll a list of applications |
| 22:43.42 | DocScrutinizer | I'd hope CSSU HAM eventually will fix this particular flaw |
| 22:43.51 | FIQ | like now when I tried to find "faster application manager", searching for faster yielded... nothing |
| 22:44.02 | FIQ | pr at least not what I wanted |
| 22:44.31 | FIQ | DocScrutinizer: okay |
| 22:44.52 | FIQ | btw, why does it randomly empties the repository list and refuse to work? |
| 22:44.53 | villager | FIQ: have you tried the "Faster Application Manager" (fapman)? |
| 22:44.58 | FIQ | (like now) |
| 22:45.16 | FIQ | i have |
| 22:45.18 | FIQ | 00:43:51 < FIQ> like now when I tried to find "faster application manager", searching for faster yielded... nothing |
| 22:45.27 | FIQ | wiped as I flashed some months ago |
| 22:45.33 | FIQ | thanks for the name |
| 22:45.47 | DocScrutinizer | you however should document it by stat'ing the "or whatever it's called list" several times during using HAM, then open a ticket against CSSU HAM |
| 22:46.30 | DocScrutinizer | fapman has known flaws as well |
| 22:46.43 | FIQ | hm, not found |
| 22:46.50 | DocScrutinizer | esp some nasty ones when it comes to not so standard packages |
| 22:46.52 | FIQ | maybe I didn't have devel on really? |
| 22:46.55 | villager | I don't like fapman much, but it's worth using in some cases |
| 22:47.16 | DocScrutinizer | meh, before I use fapman, I prefer apt-get |
| 22:47.24 | FIQ | if so, how to enable it from commandline? i.e. where's the repo list? |
| 22:47.56 | villager | you shouldn't need devel to find fapman, it's in standard extras |
| 22:48.03 | FIQ | i know there's 2 of them, and 1 that isn't really used, but I forgot the location of both of them |
| 22:48.06 | FIQ | hm |
| 22:48.09 | DocScrutinizer | enabling repos is sth you definitely should do in HAM |
| 22:48.17 | FIQ | ok' I'll do an apt-get update |
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| 22:48.40 | FIQ | DocScrutinizer: and if it forgets all the repos that it does sometimes? |
| 22:48.51 | DocScrutinizer | never did for me |
| 22:48.58 | FIQ | "Operation failed, try again" *hide all repos* |
| 22:49.04 | FIQ | on update |
| 22:49.14 | DocScrutinizer | if it does, this results from you using other methods for app managing |
| 22:49.28 | FIQ | ok |
| 22:49.35 | DocScrutinizer | operation failed means there are connectivity issues |
| 22:49.46 | DocScrutinizer | usually |
| 22:49.47 | villager | FIQ: if HAM is still doing stuff like updates in the background, you probably can't use apt-get until it's done |
| 22:50.24 | villager | but then it'd say "locked" I suppose |
| 22:50.29 | FIQ | villager: I'm aware of that |
| 22:50.33 | FIQ | yeah |
| 22:50.47 | FIQ | operation failed was from HAM btw, not apt |
| 22:51.46 | FIQ | apt hasn't given any errors at all really except "normal" things like if a package isn't found (typos), HAM has given me weird errors more than once |
| 22:52.15 | FIQ | that doesn't really tell much about more exactly what failed |
| 22:53.08 | merlin1991 | FIQ: yeah I had that operation failed, and the issue with gone repos quite a lot |
| 22:53.25 | merlin1991 | but it usually fixes itself if you leave the n900 alone for a bit, fire up ham again |
| 22:53.30 | merlin1991 | click the update button and wait :D |
| 22:53.43 | FIQ | hm |
| 22:53.45 | FIQ | W: Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got ) |
| 22:53.58 | FIQ | Why do I get that? |
| 22:55.22 | FIQ | "You might want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" yeah, right (I just did that) |
| 22:55.26 | javispedro | just replaced a GIGANTIC excel "array" formula (I did not even know they existed) with a simple max(two cells) formula |
| 22:56.09 | javispedro | and turns out, libreoffice supports those too ... http://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Array_Functions |
| 22:56.22 | FIQ | hm, I still can't find fapma |
| 22:56.48 | FIQ | and I'm certain that I've not modified my repositories other than adding a devel part of it |
| 22:56.58 | javispedro | ... If you enter the array formula directly into the cell, you must use the key combination Shift+Ctrl+Enter instead of the Enter key ... voodoo. I wonder how would I do this on N9/00 =) |
| 22:58.06 | javispedro | need to add generic support for vkb for Xephyr/qole's easy debian, but dunno how |
| 22:58.12 | FIQ | should work with a n900..? |
| 22:58.25 | villager | FIQ: what's in your repo lists then? (/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list I suppose) should have deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free |
| 23:01.23 | FIQ | http://pastebin.com/aJ66G85D |
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| 23:04.25 | FIQ | why do I seem to have 2 iterations of devel? |
| 23:05.27 | villager | the first one seems to be for old versions of fremantle |
| 23:06.00 | FIQ | ok |
| 23:06.06 | FIQ | should I remove it? |
| 23:07.18 | villager | you could try removing both to see if the error goes away... besides, if I'm looking for something not in regular extras, I'd often rather look in extras-testing before I go all the wa to extras-devel |
| 23:07.27 | villager | s/wa /way/ |
| 23:07.46 | merlin1991 | FIQ: the conflicting distribution is due to the way extras-devel has the repo layout |
| 23:08.01 | merlin1991 | you can either adjust your entry for -devel or just ignore it |
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