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| 03:03.50 | LaoLang_cool | Is there a tool for text selection on the screen? Sometimes I want to copy some text but can't find an easy way |
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| 03:06.38 | ShadowJK | in browser you can get out the pointer in hover mode |
| 03:06.47 | ShadowJK | in emails you hold shift and then paint |
| 03:07.46 | Macer | too bad the res for wii totally sucks |
| 03:07.55 | Macer | oops |
| 03:08.19 | Macer | hi :-) |
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| 03:09.45 | LaoLang_cool | ShadowJK: what about fmms? |
| 03:10.08 | LaoLang_cool | it can copy a whole mms, but that's not so convenient.. |
| 03:10.33 | LaoLang_cool | I like a uniform way in OS like other smart phone say iphone |
| 03:11.31 | ShadowJK | i haven't used fmms |
| 03:11.48 | ShadowJK | iphone has copypaste now? :) |
| 03:12.41 | ShadowJK | vaguely remembers it didn't when maemo did |
| 03:14.13 | robbiethe1st | Maemo has the nicest default browser. Period. |
| 03:14.38 | robbiethe1st | And it's quite nice, too, especially if you install the click-to-play for flash addon |
| 03:14.57 | ShadowJK | has adblock-css |
| 03:15.19 | ShadowJK | does click to play too :) |
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| 03:32.20 | Macer | heh |
| 03:32.37 | Macer | i dont use mms at all |
| 03:32.41 | Macer | or txting |
| 03:32.44 | Macer | what a racket |
| 03:33.17 | Macer | txting has to be by far the most ridiculoisly overpriced thing in existance |
| 03:33.25 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 03:33.47 | merlin1991 | I dunno 4 cents for a text or 4 cents for a minute of talking on my provider |
| 03:34.22 | merlin1991 | (that is 4 cents txt woldwide, whilst talking goes all the way up to 3€ per min) |
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| 04:04.59 | RST38h | If You Bought "Steve Jobs: One Last Thing" You'll Like "Hitler: A Career", Says iTunes Genius |
| 04:05.23 | robbiethe1st | Definitely. |
| 04:06.59 | RST38h | In related news, Taliban Offer Question-and-Answer Service Online |
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| 05:37.05 | LaoLang_cool | I like txting :) |
| 05:37.48 | LaoLang_cool | another question, is there a tool to let me can use some hardware keyboard to behave like pageup/pagedown? |
| 05:38.05 | LaoLang_cool | Or go to top/bottom |
| 05:38.35 | robbiethe1st | Uh, shift+up, shift+down? |
| 05:39.02 | robbiethe1st | Also, you can edit the keymap and define any combination of keys to be anything you want, so yes. |
| 05:40.10 | robbiethe1st | see http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard |
| 05:40.43 | LaoLang_cool | robbiethe1st: I mean in the case of when I'm in a conversation, I want to use keyboard to pageup/down, not by hand |
| 05:41.24 | robbiethe1st | Yeah. Remember, there's a 'pgup' key on normal keyboards? So, you could map it, to, say alt+shift+up or something |
| 05:42.04 | LaoLang_cool | robbiethe1st: oh, I'll try, thank you |
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| 05:43.28 | robbiethe1st | It's pretty cool all the stuff you can do, but it takes some experimenting |
| 05:43.37 | robbiethe1st | I'm off, cya. |
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| 05:51.19 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
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| 06:36.20 | internetishard | have do you guys use skype on this thing? It's annoying to toggle off and on, and whenever I chat with it on my desktop my phone vibrates |
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| 07:14.57 | pavi | is watching http://www.developer.nokia.com/document/Get_Started_with_Maemo_5/ well made video |
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| 07:30.00 | pavi | Hi all I just installed the SDK and I was able to run the helo world GUI program both as stand alone and via xephyr |
| 07:31.53 | pavi | In the SDK sources.list I can see it pointing to fremantle/sdk . If I add just a line with only fremantle . Will I be able to run all the maemo repo apps on the emulator ? |
| 07:32.13 | pavi | I am wondering if they are different targets like arm and x86 |
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| 07:38.25 | x29a | pavi: in the project settings, click on the + and add a new target, you should see maemo5 as a target if you have the fremantle toolchain installed |
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| 07:42.21 | internetishard | should I try to buy a new board for the n900, send it in to fix it, or just buy a new one? |
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| 07:42.35 | internetishard | It's been well over a year since I bought it |
| 07:42.38 | internetishard | maybe over 2 |
| 07:44.36 | Sicelo | i'd try for a new/used N900, and fix current N900 on my own :/ |
| 07:45.18 | pavi | x29a: where do I find project settings? on the emulator? |
| 07:45.30 | internetishard | too much fucked up |
| 07:45.37 | internetishard | craigslist for used n900? |
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| 07:49.12 | internetishard | http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/2924270205.html omfg, what a retard |
| 07:51.29 | internetishard | anyone here want to sell me one? |
| 07:51.30 | Macer | lol |
| 07:51.53 | Macer | so like |
| 07:52.05 | Macer | what is special about the $900 n900? |
| 07:52.11 | internetishard | I have one but it's getting sketchy. some corrupt flash possibly, mic jack isn't working, antenna seems sketchy |
| 07:52.20 | internetishard | Macer: he put "PENTESTING" on it |
| 07:52.20 | internetishard | haha |
| 07:52.26 | internetishard | installed a free program? |
| 07:52.39 | Macer | lmao |
| 07:52.41 | internetishard | It's retarded because anyone who knows what that is is going to know enough not to buy that |
| 07:52.43 | internetishard | what an idiot! |
| 07:52.47 | Macer | WEP cracking? |
| 07:52.56 | Macer | wow |
| 07:52.58 | Macer | ! |
| 07:52.58 | internetishard | probably some l33t kid to stole his dads n900 |
| 07:53.04 | Macer | :) |
| 07:53.11 | internetishard | anyway, I need a new one |
| 07:53.20 | Macer | or an asian trying to sell an n900 for a retarded price |
| 07:53.23 | internetishard | I don't like how mine is behaving, hardware wise |
| 07:53.31 | Macer | skype i believe still sells new ones |
| 07:53.42 | Macer | ebay has a few for an ok price every now and then |
| 07:53.49 | internetishard | wow, that's ironic, the skype integration sucks |
| 07:54.00 | Macer | i got mine from hk on ebay and it actually wound up great |
| 07:54.05 | internetishard | I can't skype IM on my desktop without my n900 vibrating every time I push enter |
| 07:54.08 | Macer | $240 i think |
| 07:54.21 | Macer | they're kind of hard to come by |
| 07:54.29 | Macer | wish nokia still produced them |
| 07:54.35 | Macer | i'd buy 10 lol |
| 07:54.39 | internetishard | wish they were supported |
| 07:54.43 | internetishard | really? |
| 07:54.44 | Macer | for $200/piece |
| 07:54.57 | Macer | no not really.. but this one is my 2nd |
| 07:55.00 | internetishard | don't your friends' android phones do almost everything way better? |
| 07:55.10 | Macer | no |
| 07:55.16 | Macer | no ssh xforwarding |
| 07:55.18 | Macer | heh |
| 07:55.18 | internetishard | so much faster |
| 07:55.23 | internetishard | yeah, I like that too |
| 07:55.23 | Macer | no apt :) |
| 07:55.26 | internetishard | apt? |
| 07:55.28 | Macer | no xterm |
| 07:55.41 | internetishard | can a vpn replace ssh for you? |
| 07:56.03 | Macer | i suppose.. but openvpn is a pain sometimes and pptp is not as secure |
| 07:56.10 | internetishard | I mostly want to be able to forward all my IM services through irssi, and mount my multi-TB storage over vpn |
| 07:56.26 | Macer | heh |
| 07:56.29 | Macer | use sshfs |
| 07:56.30 | internetishard | Actually, I looked into that and I think openvpn can be as secure as ssh |
| 07:56.30 | Macer | ;) |
| 07:56.38 | Macer | openvpn yes |
| 07:56.40 | Macer | pptp no |
| 07:56.42 | internetishard | Yeah, I do sshfs over GigE at home |
| 07:56.53 | internetishard | but it reaaly isn't optimized for high volume traffic |
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| 07:56.59 | Macer | sshfs is a bit taxing on the hardware tho |
| 07:57.02 | Macer | yeah |
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| 07:57.07 | Macer | it has overhead |
| 07:57.10 | internetishard | even with my ultra desktops it would stutter |
| 07:57.20 | Macer | heh |
| 07:57.29 | internetishard | I just don't think it's good with dirs, crypto is fast enough on these machines |
| 07:57.41 | Macer | but i had a g2.. it broke... i took it apart and got a.. the replacement parts |
| 07:57.56 | Macer | and it is still taken apart because i use my n900 far more |
| 07:57.57 | internetishard | for example, I mounted my raid over gigE with sshfs, and I never could figure out why browsing dirs took so long to load |
| 07:58.05 | internetishard | I could stream blueray over it though |
| 07:58.06 | Macer | hm |
| 07:58.18 | Macer | dont know. works rather well on my stuff |
| 07:58.18 | internetishard | but all the folders in a dir took like 3s to show up, which was annoying |
| 07:58.23 | Macer | but the overhead is killer |
| 07:58.30 | Macer | since i am using a synology |
| 07:58.55 | internetishard | I'd like to fix my mic jack on the n900 |
| 07:58.57 | Macer | with 128MB and a 1.2 GHz Armv5 |
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| 07:58.58 | internetishard | that'd make me happy for a while |
| 07:59.03 | Macer | heh |
| 07:59.10 | Macer | my usb port fell off my 1st one |
| 07:59.15 | Macer | made in korea |
| 07:59.41 | Macer | this one isn't |
| 07:59.43 | internetishard | oh, another thing I'll miss with other phones |
| 07:59.47 | internetishard | is all these batteries I bought |
| 07:59.49 | internetishard | and keep charged |
| 07:59.51 | internetishard | in my pocket |
| 08:00.01 | dm8tbr | needs to open his devices and check if he can add some mechanical stability somehow |
| 08:00.04 | Macer | heh |
| 08:00.04 | Macer | yeah... i have 3 |
| 08:00.22 | Macer | 3 n900 batteries |
| 08:00.26 | Macer | and a wall charger |
| 08:00.36 | Macer | but i got it to avoid touching the usb port |
| 08:00.43 | Macer | unless i really need to |
| 08:00.57 | dm8tbr | e.g. scratch of side of pcb and then solder the port to the pcb |
| 08:01.04 | dm8tbr | need to take it apart and have a look |
| 08:01.16 | Macer | yeah... i know it is possible |
| 08:01.39 | Macer | i have one that was made in finland tho |
| 08:01.51 | Macer | so maybe they used quality workmanship and solder :) |
| 08:02.02 | internetishard | My headphones work, but the mic won't... any ideas? |
| 08:02.07 | internetishard | the jack is a little loose |
| 08:02.09 | Macer | as opposed to the asian industrial penny pinching machine |
| 08:02.35 | Macer | no idea. sorry. |
| 08:02.42 | Macer | maybe a worn jack |
| 08:02.47 | Macer | broken headset |
| 08:02.49 | internetishard | I opened it up and couldn't tell |
| 08:02.52 | Macer | non-nokia headset |
| 08:02.54 | internetishard | I tried multiple headsets |
| 08:02.55 | Macer | heh |
| 08:03.01 | internetishard | headset supposed to be standard |
| 08:03.04 | internetishard | 3.5mm |
| 08:03.04 | internetishard | etc |
| 08:03.16 | Macer | i know nokia uses the headset port for video as well |
| 08:03.32 | Macer | supposed ;) |
| 08:04.11 | Macer | nokia is going bankrupt |
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| 08:14.46 | internetishard | Macer, does it matter that it's for video too (for headsets)? |
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| 08:14.59 | internetishard | wtf, nokia makes good shit. They need to learn how to fucking run a company |
| 08:15.12 | Macer | blame their ceo |
| 08:15.20 | Macer | he has just had blunder after blunder |
| 08:15.28 | Macer | how he is still ceo is beyond me |
| 08:15.29 | internetishard | hmm |
| 08:15.33 | internetishard | I don't know enough about nokia |
| 08:15.38 | internetishard | can't fire the CEO, eh? |
| 08:15.57 | internetishard | he probably gives investors better options when they try to kick him out |
| 08:16.18 | internetishard | Now that I'm part of a HW device company, I see what can go wrong |
| 08:16.40 | internetishard | It's obvious that nokias engineers, marketing, and sales don't fucking communicate |
| 08:17.00 | Macer | they just dropped the ball on a lot of things |
| 08:17.23 | Macer | then went into a panic trying to make something new and couldnt stick with anything |
| 08:18.56 | Macer | http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3ANOK |
| 08:19.01 | Macer | heh |
| 08:19.09 | Macer | the graphs say all |
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| 08:20.37 | Macer | the key stats and ratios on the bottom right are a more clear picture of the state of nokia |
| 08:20.46 | Macer | i will give them a few more months |
| 08:20.56 | Macer | and they will be bankrupt... or desperate |
| 08:21.07 | Macer | selling patents off is the last sign |
| 08:22.23 | dm8tbr | I'm really interested to see how their US sales of Lumia900 will turn out |
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| 08:26.47 | internetishard | The question is, which phone will I get next that I can actually switch out teh batteries on the fly with |
| 08:27.00 | internetishard | and also has a HW kb |
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| 08:53.44 | pavi | What are the open source games which use opengl in maemo ? |
| 08:55.40 | internetishard | quake3 |
| 08:55.44 | internetishard | but that's not open |
| 08:55.50 | internetishard | maybe openarena runs |
| 08:57.02 | pavi | ? |
| 08:59.17 | pavi | I am looking for a simple mobile game which uses opengl on maemo and runs on n900 |
| 08:59.17 | pavi | I am not asking for a desktop port :P |
| 09:02.52 | internetishard | yeah I know |
| 09:04.29 | pavi | Aren't there anything which comes near to te bounce game? |
| 09:04.39 | internetishard | don't be gay |
| 09:04.55 | internetishard | quake3 is the most hardcore opengl game that runs on the n900 |
| 09:05.25 | pavi | internetishard: I am not looking for hardcore ones .. I am looking for simple ones |
| 09:05.37 | pavi | Quake is an action game with inputs |
| 09:05.52 | pavi | bounse just takes the speedometer input |
| 09:06.36 | internetishard | get faster app manager |
| 09:06.42 | internetishard | and type "accel" |
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| 09:06.51 | internetishard | and it will filter for all accelerometer apps |
| 09:06.55 | internetishard | some of them being games |
| 09:07.03 | pavi | ok thanks |
| 09:07.36 | pavi | by the way whats faster app manager ? |
| 09:12.24 | internetishard | http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=1544&faq=42 |
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| 09:31.33 | edheldil | pavi: tuxracer |
| 09:33.48 | pavi | edheldil: ok will try it out |
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| 09:59.48 | Sicelo | random reboots on my N900 now :( |
| 10:00.00 | Sicelo | suspects KP50. |
| 10:00.08 | Sicelo | any way to confirm? |
| 10:01.03 | Sicelo | in fact, not reboots, but complete shutdowns |
| 10:01.06 | dhbiker | Sicelo: mine did too when i had that battery patch for test |
| 10:01.16 | Sicelo | i don't have that patch |
| 10:01.20 | dhbiker | but in the other hand |
| 10:01.25 | LaoLang_cool | hello, is there a way to show battery capacity instead of the default picutre? |
| 10:01.25 | dhbiker | no reboots with kp50 |
| 10:02.33 | Sicelo | i generally don't install anything unusual.. on installs recently are CSSU stable (which i doubt i cause for this) and KP50 (which got installed by mistake) |
| 10:02.53 | dhbiker | weird |
| 10:03.30 | dhbiker | cssu stable + kp50 + injection drivers ... no reboots |
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| 10:48.56 | Sicelo | is not going to downgrade kernel.. can't stand this |
| 10:49.08 | Sicelo | s/not/now/ |
| 10:51.55 | Sicelo | killing the battery too. battery almost finished after 5 hours of use that normally gave 12 hours |
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| 11:16.10 | infobot | jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 12:18.02 | Sicelo | LaoLang_cool: i uses bq27200 scrpit. what do you want to do exactly? |
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| 12:33.09 | Khertan | Hi all ! |
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| 14:12.07 | flux | hello. is there a webcam server for n900? |
| 14:12.24 | flux | there seem to be various ways to stream videos, but is there a standalone http server for that? |
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| 14:20.11 | flux | also, for those approaches: how does one activate the focusing mechanism automatically? |
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| 14:30.37 | narcos | Hey all. I'm trying to create a desktop icon for a script which needs to run as roon (uses tcpdump). There seem to be so many articles out there with partial solutions - could someone recommend off hand to follow? |
| 14:31.03 | narcos | Even more specifically, I'd like it to appear in the pwnphone desktop, if you're familiar with it |
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| 14:37.22 | r00t|home | narcos: create a .desktop file that runs it via sudo... where's the problem? |
| 14:39.07 | narcos | r00t|home: I managed to figure it out by copying another .desktop file, thanks :) |
| 14:39.31 | narcos | r00t|home: How do I add that icon to another, err, Desktop - I'm not sure of all the terminology yet |
| 14:39.55 | narcos | But on the pwnphone there exists the regular desktop area (which now has my icon), and I'd like it added to the pwnphone desktop list |
| 14:43.56 | narcos | Hmm, a separate question - where do I find the backtick character on a N900 ? |
| 14:43.59 | narcos | ` <-- that |
| 14:45.53 | narcos | Found it :) |
| 14:46.04 | narcos | I seem to be thinking out loud into the #, sorry |
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| 14:56.10 | narcos | Thanks, bye! |
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| 17:06.02 | freemangordon | guys, does anyone know who is the author of blessn900 and abettercamera? |
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| 18:33.24 | whatever4ever | any cool new smartphones with HW kbs? |
| 18:33.31 | wmarone | nope |
| 18:34.02 | whatever4ever | Really? |
| 18:34.12 | wmarone | yup |
| 18:34.54 | whatever4ever | well, the speed at which any dude on an android can get directions vs me with the n900 is starting to kill me. Sometimes GPS doesn't lock on for minutes, apps crash a lot, general instability |
| 18:35.25 | whatever4ever | maybe I should just overclock? |
| 18:35.30 | whatever4ever | No idea... |
| 18:35.34 | wmarone | still nothing out there I'm interested in |
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| 18:38.36 | StyXman | wmarone: I don't think overclocking would help you find satelites |
| 18:38.48 | whatever4ever | haha, thanks |
| 18:38.54 | StyXman | specially when the phone doesn't do any actual calculation |
| 18:39.17 | StyXman | I mean, it just pokes and pings for signals |
| 18:39.43 | StyXman | what I've benn told in this channel is that AGPS actually helps a lot |
| 18:39.55 | StyXman | and that it only works with an actual data plan |
| 18:40.06 | whatever4ever | I've a data plan of course |
| 18:40.11 | whatever4ever | the programs are sluggish as shit |
| 18:40.23 | StyXman | I mean, you have to query servers which have satellites positions already calculateed |
| 18:40.31 | whatever4ever | I just want to be able to look up directions before any granny on the street does |
| 18:40.41 | whatever4ever | not going to happen on this thing |
| 18:40.43 | wmarone | nokia maps is terrible, yes |
| 18:40.50 | whatever4ever | well, I've tried the rest too |
| 18:40.52 | StyXman | whatever4ever: have you a) turned AGPS on and b) changed the APGS server to google's? |
| 18:41.01 | whatever4ever | in what program? |
| 18:41.05 | whatever4ever | got a link/tutorial |
| 18:41.20 | StyXman | whatever4ever: no program, that's phone wise, so to speak, AFAIK |
| 18:42.20 | StyXman | whatever4ever: settings-> location-> network positioning -> enable -> supl.google.com |
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| 18:57.04 | DocScrutinizer | haha, yes |
| 18:58.22 | whatever4ever | DocScrutinizer, that was a "yes" change that setting to make gps way faster? |
| 18:58.34 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 18:59.17 | DocScrutinizer | iirc StyXman was moaning kust like you, until I told himabout supl.google.com. 30s later he smiled |
| 19:00.16 | whatever4ever | haha, okay, I changed it |
| 19:00.24 | whatever4ever | reminds me of "8.8.8.8" |
| 19:00.26 | whatever4ever | :) |
| 19:00.48 | whatever4ever | anyway, for speed and responsiveness, waht do you recommend these days DocScrutinizer? |
| 19:01.01 | whatever4ever | Do you dual boot with meego? |
| 19:01.06 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 19:01.38 | DocScrutinizer | keep life wallpapers and similar crap off your device |
| 19:01.57 | DocScrutinizer | that's all I do, and I'm just fine with speed of N900 |
| 19:02.12 | Sicelo | +1 |
| 19:03.05 | DocScrutinizer | of course N900 is no device for "who's got the longer dick" games with your iphone friends - but I don't mind |
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| 19:06.09 | DocScrutinizer | whatever4ever: geberally speaking, more than 3 optimizers will kill your N900 |
| 19:09.05 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, one tip you actually might find useful: never keep browser window open. And every other day do a "killall browserd" |
| 19:10.14 | DocScrutinizer | and most likely you don't want to keep all your spam mail (and the few real mails) on your N900 at all |
| 19:10.27 | DocScrutinizer | I.E. mail on N900 sucks, in several ways |
| 19:11.24 | muellisoft | heh. maybe one should write a tiny package that just installs a cronjob to kill the browser at night... |
| 19:11.31 | DocScrutinizer | get a few nice helpers, like 2g/3g switcher, simple brightness applet |
| 19:11.58 | DocScrutinizer | there's no cron on N900 |
| 19:12.08 | DocScrutinizer | but there's alarmed, which is way better |
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| 19:13.12 | DocScrutinizer | load applet as well a must |
| 19:13.30 | DocScrutinizer | as otherwise you won't even notice when something rapes your CPU or RAM |
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| 19:14.23 | DocScrutinizer | and without simple brightness applet I already had fixed this device with a sledge hammer ;-D |
| 19:16.22 | Sicelo | makes a note to get brightness applet sometime soon |
| 19:16.27 | DocScrutinizer | if you got IRC running 24/7, like I do on my N900, you'll probably want 2G/3G switcher and usually keep modem at 2G |
| 19:17.31 | DocScrutinizer | it will extend the average standbay time with IRC from 5 to 15 hours |
| 19:17.39 | DocScrutinizer | standby |
| 19:17.42 | DocScrutinizer | even |
| 19:18.14 | DocScrutinizer | YMMV depending on number of channels and how much traffic on them |
| 19:18.28 | DocScrutinizer | and how far you are from next "tower" |
| 19:19.07 | DocScrutinizer | in extreme cases 2G can be more power conserving than WLAN |
| 19:20.36 | DocScrutinizer | while 3G is a known power hog |
| 19:22.09 | NIN101 | and there is even one more secret "optimization" feature: reboot :P |
| 19:23.48 | Sicelo | ;) |
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| 19:25.54 | Sicelo | btw, simple-brightness-applet simply does same thing as standard brightness control, at the expense of space in status menu. i'm not so sure it's for me. i use lowest brightness setting all the time, and ALS takes care of the rest |
| 19:28.37 | DocScrutinizer | well as long as you're happy with that, and don't feel the need to keep backlight from fading after 30s every now and then |
| 19:29.52 | DocScrutinizer | flashlight is also cool, though clumsy to activate |
| 19:30.23 | DocScrutinizer | literally saved my life a few times |
| 19:30.33 | AliasXZ | my 2 cents - by using all of above and baterypatch with speedpatch + power kernel, clocked at 950mhz with conservative governer, I get 3 days of normal usage |
| 19:30.47 | AliasXZ | if I'm lucky 4 |
| 19:30.50 | Sicelo | yeah, flashlight is kewl ;) |
| 19:31.00 | DocScrutinizer | and batterypatch is a hoax |
| 19:31.13 | DocScrutinizer | as is speedpatch |
| 19:31.32 | Sicelo | AliasXZ: 4 days of use, or idling? |
| 19:31.44 | AliasXZ | of use, I still use my N900 at work |
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| 19:32.16 | AliasXZ | however, that is putting the phone in offline mode @ night |
| 19:32.24 | AliasXZ | don;t need it when im sleeping ;) |
| 19:32.46 | DocScrutinizer | batpatch and speedpatch are already 2 of the needed 3 optimizers to finally kill your device. I'd guess your overclocking qualifies for #3 X-P |
| 19:33.28 | AliasXZ | meh it's lasted 3 years so far |
| 19:33.36 | DocScrutinizer | suuuuure |
| 19:34.01 | DocScrutinizer | is envy about the preprepreproduction device of AliasXZ |
| 19:34.46 | AliasXZ | do you talk like this to everyone who adds a comment they feel is relevant? |
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| 19:35.13 | DocScrutinizer | I just comment on the supposed 3 years age of your device |
| 19:36.08 | AliasXZ | yes it is 3 yrs old, got it 09 April |
| 19:36.46 | AliasXZ | sorry its 2 years and 363 days old |
| 19:37.06 | ShadowJK | would imagine the "conservative" governor uses more energy on just about every practical CPU in existence |
| 19:37.17 | DocScrutinizer | well maybe I get older much faster than I notice :-) |
| 19:37.37 | AliasXZ | all im saying is, thats what I use with power kernel 42 |
| 19:37.38 | DocScrutinizer | hi ShadowJK |
| 19:37.50 | ShadowJK | hello |
| 19:38.05 | AliasXZ | clocked - 250 - 950 |
| 19:39.08 | DocScrutinizer | well, I guess I don't have to ask infobot about OCing again |
| 19:39.30 | DocScrutinizer | as everybody got fed up with this elemtary truth meanwhile |
| 19:43.14 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: 4 days of idling would be a bit short a standby time |
| 19:43.34 | DocScrutinizer | I think I easily get 7 days idle standby |
| 19:44.04 | DocScrutinizer | I get 4 days with wlan and IRC, with a low number of small channels |
| 19:46.44 | Sicelo | yeah. i was just wondering about AliasXZ's usage pattern |
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| 19:47.39 | DocScrutinizer | 'normal' |
| 19:47.49 | AliasXZ | It's normal use, email, wifi, 2G only with a few phone calls, I don't talk on it for hours |
| 19:48.05 | AliasXZ | i mostly text |
| 19:48.22 | AliasXZ | IM accounts kill the battery |
| 19:48.33 | DocScrutinizer | well, wifi means actually NO 2G |
| 19:48.46 | AliasXZ | when im at work, there is no wifi |
| 19:48.51 | AliasXZ | only when I am home |
| 19:48.52 | DocScrutinizer | indeed, IM is terrible |
| 19:49.15 | AliasXZ | i duno if it uses anything when it isn't act connected? |
| 19:49.43 | DocScrutinizer | 2G? only uses power for data volume |
| 19:50.06 | AliasXZ | no i mean wifi, if it is enabled, but not connected |
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| 19:50.21 | DocScrutinizer | that's why all those auto-disconnecters are mere nonsense usually |
| 19:50.29 | DocScrutinizer | ooh yes |
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| 19:50.48 | ShadowJK | DDo you mean wifi connects but IM accounts disconnected? |
| 19:51.00 | DocScrutinizer | it uses more whn unconnected then when connected. That's why you got those 5.10.30min scan pause in settings |
| 19:52.00 | AliasXZ | the 3 day thing no IM accounts at all, if I use IM accounts its like a day to 1 + 1/2 |
| 19:52.02 | DocScrutinizer | "scan WIFI every 5min" basically means reduction to 1/5 of the power consumed, and that's still noticeable |
| 19:52.08 | AliasXZ | if im lucky |
| 19:52.26 | AliasXZ | I dont scan for wifi, all manual |
| 19:52.45 | DocScrutinizer | very power concerning :-) |
| 19:52.46 | AliasXZ | but ost ppl cant be bothered with that ;) |
| 19:52.50 | AliasXZ | most* |
| 19:53.58 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, bye folks |
| 19:54.02 | AliasXZ | whats new with the latest stable cssu? (cant be bothered opening browser) :p |
| 19:54.18 | AliasXZ | *waves* |
| 19:55.14 | Raimu | Niceties! |
| 19:55.31 | Raimu | To be honest if you can't be bothered with a browser that's a little offensive all by itself. |
| 19:56.00 | AliasXZ | sorry :( |
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| 21:02.32 | whatever4ever | why use 2g/3g switcher? when do you go to 2g? |
| 21:03.53 | whatever4ever | NIN101: but when I reboot, it comes up with significantly less battery showing than before I rebooted |
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| 21:06.34 | whatever4ever | what do you guys think about using all IM, skype, etc over bitlbee/irc on the n900? |
| 21:07.11 | ShadowJK | reboot screws up battery meter |
| 21:07.31 | ShadowJK | use 2g whenever you're not surfing the web |
| 21:07.34 | whatever4ever | oh, so it auto-powers off sooner? |
| 21:07.56 | whatever4ever | won't 2G make the connectivity worse and cause more reconnections? |
| 21:08.04 | ShadowJK | Um, depends on your operator |
| 21:08.09 | ShadowJK | for me 3g is less reliable |
| 21:08.10 | whatever4ever | tmo in cali |
| 21:08.35 | ShadowJK | 3g is an enormous battery drain for all sorts of IM |
| 21:08.52 | whatever4ever | why is it worse using IM than nothing? IM is low traffic... |
| 21:09.02 | ShadowJK | Because it's frequent traffic |
| 21:09.07 | whatever4ever | Also, using bitlbee for skype and all other IM - what do you think? |
| 21:09.15 | ShadowJK | I'm not familiar with bitlbee |
| 21:09.21 | whatever4ever | puts everything over IRC |
| 21:09.38 | whatever4ever | Having contacts everywhere is getting crazy: pidgin, contacts, etc |
| 21:09.54 | whatever4ever | everytime I IM on my desktop using skype my phone vibrates |
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| 21:40.45 | whatever4ever | Hey guys, when you get a long IM history (sms) - I've years of messages - I'd like to keep these, but also speed up various conversations opening... |
| 21:41.04 | whatever4ever | I like the way skype does it where it doesn't have all the history in the same window. |
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| 21:54.26 | DocScrutinizer | you're aware that a huge SMS database most likely is one of the top culprits for device acting sluggish? And not only on opening conversations app, but also on any event that gets recorded to the database |
| 21:54.58 | DocScrutinizer | and slowdown impact is global, not limited to the apps that use the database |
| 21:56.02 | lolcat | Can't you export it to another program? |
| 21:59.38 | ShadowJK | Well also the conversations is rendered by the browser.. |
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| 22:03.12 | villager | whatever4ever: I'm certainly another who often switches to 2G. as 2G is generally both more reliable (better signal, longer range, fewer dropouts), and uses less battery... the *only* advantage of 3G is speed, and I don't need that very often |
| 22:04.40 | ShadowJK | I used to get 256kbit/s on 2g, but it has dropped around here lately, so I now switch to 3g if I'm doing heavier web surfing, before I didn't do that |
| 22:05.52 | villager | yeah, the 2G/3G switcher is a must-have |
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