| 00:00.30 | DocScrutinizer | tcatm: where from you got your N900? |
| 00:01.28 | tcatm | DocScrutinizer: I've bought it from a friend for a few bitcoins. |
| 00:02.00 | DocScrutinizer | mhm. Some of us are searching for new ones |
| 00:02.11 | SD69 | DocScrutinizer: doing good |
| 00:02.13 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK, me |
| 00:02.16 | tcatm | Are there any new ones? |
| 00:02.33 | DocScrutinizer | then we'd not be searching ;-) |
| 00:03.36 | tcatm | Are there any other similar phones? |
| 00:03.51 | DocScrutinizer | well, there are - in HK, in Poland, in neverland province of ebay |
| 00:04.08 | DocScrutinizer | nope, and that'S the whole reason for our search :-) |
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| 00:04.50 | DocScrutinizer | some say N9 was similar. Some don't like N9 at all |
| 00:05.12 | tcatm | Does it have a keyboard? |
| 00:05.16 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 00:05.17 | merlin1991 | nope |
| 00:05.27 | merlin1991 | and it has software drm |
| 00:05.30 | DocScrutinizer | and crappy capacitive ts |
| 00:05.38 | tcatm | No deal :D The most important reason I got it was to use emac's orgmode on the go. |
| 00:05.43 | DocScrutinizer | and friggin aegis, aka what merlin said |
| 00:05.48 | merlin1991 | imo the ts isn't crappy |
| 00:06.14 | DocScrutinizer | well, for you it may work, for me it's a nogo |
| 00:06.55 | DocScrutinizer | fact is fremantle as is wouldn't work on N9, due to way too small buttons/menu-entries |
| 00:07.39 | ShadowJK | wow that's some serious crappiness :) |
| 00:07.40 | DocScrutinizer | and forget about any sketching/painting programs, like e.g. numpty physics |
| 00:08.11 | merlin1991 | well I use n9 as a fancy phone, not like the n900 |
| 00:08.13 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: for me it is |
| 00:08.25 | merlin1991 | and for a fancy phone for browsing @ uni it works perfectly |
| 00:08.29 | ShadowJK | who the hell needs a phone :P |
| 00:08.34 | ShadowJK | phones are dead |
| 00:08.44 | merlin1991 | SpeedEvil: what do the cool kids use nowadays? |
| 00:08.50 | merlin1991 | err srry, meant ShadowJK |
| 00:08.55 | DocScrutinizer | I'm used to use my fingernails, or proper stylus, or whatever object to point to a spot on screen with max +/-1mm off |
| 00:09.25 | tcatm | mobile SIP client + open mesh networks = awesome :) |
| 00:09.32 | ShadowJK | gets about 90% success rate with thumb on N800 /stylus/ keyboard ;P |
| 00:10.11 | merlin1991 | gets 100% success rate with thumb on n900 keyboard, not so much on the screen though |
| 00:10.23 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 00:10.29 | ShadowJK | yeah ;P |
| 00:10.55 | merlin1991 | typing is one thing that works really well on the n900 compared to the n9 experience |
| 00:10.55 | DocScrutinizer | afk for some TV chillout |
| 00:11.08 | merlin1991 | but the n9 is all about consuming, not creating :D |
| 00:11.33 | DocScrutinizer | just one thing: (you guessed it :-P) |
| 00:11.36 | DocScrutinizer | ~aegis |
| 00:11.36 | infobot | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif |
| 00:17.49 | merlin1991 | SD69: did only my mailinglist subscription break, or are there really no nominations so far? |
| 00:18.08 | SD69 | no nominations |
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| 00:20.02 | SD69 | if indeed council's only function was to work with Nokia, then it wouldn't matter |
| 00:20.10 | merlin1991 | SD69: any plans on nominating yourself? |
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| 00:21.11 | SD69 | I was kind of hoping it would be unnecessary, because of lack of time |
| 00:23.44 | tcatm | Are there any zsh packages? |
| 00:24.40 | merlin1991 | srly maemo.org is down |
| 00:24.53 | DocScrutinizer | SD69: tbh I think Nokia killed council together with maemo |
| 00:24.56 | merlin1991 | just wanted to suggest you check maemo.org/packages (it has a search interface) |
| 00:25.31 | DocScrutinizer | wut, maemo.org down *again*? |
| 00:25.37 | merlin1991 | seems like |
| 00:25.47 | DocScrutinizer | friggin crap |
| 00:26.05 | merlin1991 | a bit OT how can I clean the ff cash for a single webpage? |
| 00:26.24 | merlin1991 | twitter is completely unuseable for me but seems to work on other pcs / browsers / ... |
| 00:26.39 | tcatm | I don't think you can do that but ctrl+shift+R should force a full reload. |
| 00:27.12 | merlin1991 | doesn't work :/ |
| 00:27.20 | tcatm | Or maybe ctrl+F5 or something like that. I don't remember the exact shortcut. |
| 00:27.30 | SpeedEvil | Also - go to cookie manager - and nuke cookies |
| 00:27.37 | merlin1991 | hm firebug shows me Component returned failure code: 0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED) [nsIDOMStorage.getItem] |
| 00:28.07 | tcatm | http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Keyboard%20shortcuts -> Reload (override cache) > ctrl+shift+F5 |
| 00:28.19 | SpeedEvil | Check you're not out of disc |
| 00:28.23 | SpeedEvil | Wacky stuff can happen |
| 00:28.28 | ShadowJK | ctrl-shift-r on n900 causes unwanted rotations :P |
| 00:28.41 | merlin1991 | ShadowJK: removed with newest cssu-t ;) |
| 00:28.53 | merlin1991 | nah I know for sure I messed up my ssd at some point and corrupted shitloads of files |
| 00:32.26 | SD69 | DocScrutinizer: sure, Nokia has moved on and council (at least I) haven't |
| 00:36.34 | DocScrutinizer | move on to redmond defined disneyland from a sane place? I'm glad you didn't |
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| 00:39.09 | merlin1991 | all the reload override cache things didn't work |
| 00:39.18 | merlin1991 | purging the html5 local store on the other hand did |
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| 00:39.28 | teotwaki | sup #maemo |
| 00:39.38 | Macer | ok... i think i HAVE to use this n810 as a box now... my damn artigo broke |
| 00:39.40 | Macer | ugh |
| 00:39.54 | SpeedEvil | What's an artigo? |
| 00:40.01 | Macer | via based tiny pc |
| 00:40.07 | Macer | asian so it only lasts 5 years |
| 00:40.09 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 00:40.15 | Macer | like everything else that comes out of asia |
| 00:40.20 | teotwaki | hey |
| 00:40.23 | Macer | i need to get something to replace it |
| 00:40.28 | teotwaki | my girlfriend comes from asia! |
| 00:40.36 | teotwaki | oh, and fyi |
| 00:40.41 | Macer | lol |
| 00:40.43 | crashanddie | I said SUP MAEMO |
| 00:40.46 | SpeedEvil | hey |
| 00:40.52 | merlin1991 | SUP CRASHANDDIE |
| 00:40.57 | merlin1991 | enough? :D |
| 00:40.59 | Macer | i need to figure out how to put debian on this n810 |
| 00:41.00 | teotwaki | thar ve go |
| 00:41.02 | Macer | and use it as a box :) |
| 00:41.06 | Macer | anybody know where i can get that info? |
| 00:41.16 | teotwaki | Macer: did you try easydeb? |
| 00:41.18 | Macer | i would perfer bare metal heh |
| 00:41.26 | Macer | teotwaki: i was trying to avoid a chroot |
| 00:41.42 | Macer | my maemo install on it is messed up... keeps rebooting on its own |
| 00:41.50 | teotwaki | can't reflash it? |
| 00:41.53 | Macer | i need to reflash anyways.. figured i might be able to flash debian or something onto it |
| 00:42.10 | Macer | i'm even considering gentoo.. as long as it works |
| 00:42.16 | Macer | i'm just using it as a small server |
| 00:42.36 | Macer | until i get something to throw this hard drive into |
| 00:42.41 | teotwaki | By the way, I've noticed andre has been busy shutting down bmo |
| 00:42.44 | teotwaki | kinda sad |
| 00:42.50 | Macer | bmo? |
| 00:42.53 | teotwaki | bugs.maemo.org |
| 00:42.57 | Macer | oh lol |
| 00:43.08 | Macer | i'm surprised nokia hasn't alrady pulled the plug on maemo.org |
| 00:43.12 | Macer | are they going to keep the domain? |
| 00:43.15 | teotwaki | dunno |
| 00:43.19 | teotwaki | I'm getting it if it goes |
| 00:43.24 | SpeedEvil | teotwaki: :/ |
| 00:43.24 | Macer | LOL |
| 00:43.29 | merlin1991 | SD69: any ideas about maemo.org? |
| 00:43.32 | Macer | yeah that's kind of messed up |
| 00:43.34 | teotwaki | SpeedEvil: feeling the pinch as well? |
| 00:43.37 | SD69 | DocScrutinizer: no one sane was going to leave maemo for redmond, it's meego that peeled some people away |
| 00:43.38 | SpeedEvil | teotwaki: I got several WON'TFIX |
| 00:43.43 | teotwaki | yeah |
| 00:43.49 | SpeedEvil | teotwaki: Reasonable - but depressing. |
| 00:43.51 | DocScrutinizer | SD69: yup |
| 00:44.03 | Macer | SpeedEvil: even when maemo was in its prime everythign was wontfix |
| 00:44.03 | Macer | heh |
| 00:44.04 | teotwaki | I got almost a hundred emails that it's shutting down |
| 00:44.16 | Macer | i remember when i asked for bt keyboard support and they marked it as wontfix |
| 00:44.22 | Macer | since m4 had it and m5 didn't |
| 00:44.24 | Macer | wtf? :) |
| 00:44.25 | Macer | i hate nokia |
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| 00:44.32 | DocScrutinizer | but meego is dead^2, while maemo is only said to be dead, you see the evidence of contrary here |
| 00:44.36 | SpeedEvil | I imagine there are things nokia would fix on fremantle. But they are solely of the variety that 'virus causes phones to make 911 calls' |
| 00:44.50 | Macer | LOL |
| 00:44.56 | Macer | that would be an awesome virus :) |
| 00:45.03 | merlin1991 | well the fix for the certificates wasn't exactly necessary |
| 00:45.06 | merlin1991 | still they did it |
| 00:45.07 | Macer | have it just send the sounds of someone being choked to death |
| 00:45.08 | SpeedEvil | Playing sounds of screaming. |
| 00:45.17 | ShadowJK | teotwaki, andre has used that same message in bugzilla for year and half now :P |
| 00:45.18 | Macer | yeah haha |
| 00:45.27 | SD69 | merlin1991: I think it's broken for good - time will come when itfor maemocommunity.org or |
| 00:45.31 | teotwaki | ShadowJK: yeah, but he's been speeding up |
| 00:45.40 | teotwaki | heck, I still have an app in the repos that sends all texts and contacts and whatnot to /dev/null |
| 00:45.48 | merlin1991 | SD69: we'd need a db dump of the forums though |
| 00:46.01 | Macer | hahaha |
| 00:46.05 | teotwaki | just to prove that the QA process was broken, and malicious apps could steal all the data they wanted |
| 00:46.12 | SD69 | smerlin1991: the forums? is that a joke? |
| 00:46.13 | merlin1991 | teotwaki: what is it called? |
| 00:46.24 | teotwaki | merlin1991: don't remember, some stupid calculator app |
| 00:46.34 | teotwaki | SuperCalc or something |
| 00:46.35 | merlin1991 | SD69: not joking, one has to preserve all the trollposts |
| 00:46.36 | Macer | is that why my damn txts weren't working??? |
| 00:46.48 | SpeedEvil | sighs at market failure. |
| 00:46.48 | Macer | :-P |
| 00:47.01 | Macer | oh well... maemo still has a bit of a following |
| 00:47.01 | SpeedEvil | I want to buy a non-widescreen laptop. |
| 00:47.07 | teotwaki | SpeedEvil: good luck |
| 00:47.09 | Macer | maybe they'll sel lit to skype.. oh wait... ms already bought them |
| 00:47.16 | merlin1991 | SD69: but honestly tmo holds some valuable info, though the wiki would be a higher priority for me |
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| 00:47.20 | SpeedEvil | I'm actually pondering making one from an ipad2 display and a pandaboard. |
| 00:47.25 | SpeedEvil | I have an awesome case for it. |
| 00:47.38 | Macer | i'm charging my n810 to put something on it |
| 00:47.40 | Macer | heh |
| 00:47.45 | Macer | damn thing has a layer of dust 3" thick on it |
| 00:47.48 | teotwaki | I gave my n900 to my girlfriend |
| 00:47.49 | Macer | i had to use windex :) |
| 00:48.09 | teotwaki | she's happily using it to text and place the occasional call |
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| 00:48.19 | Macer | heh |
| 00:48.26 | teotwaki | and almost completely unaware it runs linux or that it could connect to the wifi |
| 00:48.34 | Macer | it can??? |
| 00:48.38 | Macer | :) |
| 00:48.40 | teotwaki | :) |
| 00:48.50 | teotwaki | MohammadAG: get the fuck in here |
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| 00:49.06 | merlin1991 | Macer: not if you manage to break wlancond with for example autodisconnect |
| 00:49.16 | merlin1991 | teotwaki: Mag is more around in the week than on weekend |
| 00:49.23 | Macer | heh |
| 00:49.43 | teotwaki | I'm writing a C++ application server |
| 00:49.49 | teotwaki | I talked to him about it here |
| 00:49.56 | woodong50 | hi |
| 00:49.57 | Macer | i'm confused as to why this n810 doesn't boot |
| 00:50.01 | Macer | it isn't like i did anything special to it |
| 00:50.04 | teotwaki | Am planning the initial release sometime around this summer |
| 00:50.18 | Macer | other than drop it on concrete like a year ago lol |
| 00:50.20 | merlin1991 | odd thing about todays maemo.org downtime is that it's the regular page and not tmo that is broken |
| 00:50.34 | merlin1991 | teotwaki: does it do anything fancy? |
| 00:50.44 | teotwaki | merlin1991: it's awesome? |
| 00:50.55 | merlin1991 | in what way? |
| 00:50.59 | merlin1991 | awesome like pulseaudio? |
| 00:51.18 | Macer | hahaha |
| 00:52.07 | merlin1991 | bah maemo.org package search still is down |
| 00:52.08 | SD69 | merlin1991: should we figure out the repos and build service first? |
| 00:52.19 | merlin1991 | actually repos are piece of cake |
| 00:52.23 | merlin1991 | build service is harder |
| 00:52.28 | merlin1991 | but wiki |
| 00:52.32 | merlin1991 | wiki is 100% pure information |
| 00:52.37 | Macer | i need to get an adapter and a damn sdhc for this friggin n810 for this |
| 00:52.37 | Macer | ugh |
| 00:52.44 | teotwaki | It's seriously high performance, the web part will saturate two gigabit ethernet connections on a single core :) |
| 00:52.47 | Macer | better just to track down a piece of crap laptop just to get my server up and running |
| 00:52.50 | teotwaki | merlin1991: that's how awesome it is :) |
| 00:52.51 | Macer | good thing the hard drive is still goo |
| 00:52.52 | Macer | d |
| 00:53.31 | merlin1991 | SD69: if we seriously consider keeping the community alive post maemo.org we need the content of the wiki avaiable to new/all devs |
| 00:53.44 | merlin1991 | it's still the #1 lookup place for anything maemo system related |
| 00:54.37 | teotwaki | merlin1991: my primary job is as a voip server architect, so obviously i wrote some SIP PoCs, I can handle 2-3k simultaneous calls -- our current proprietary stack handles 600 tops. |
| 00:55.27 | SpeedEvil | Awesome! |
| 00:55.31 | teotwaki | I can load, unload, upgrade parts of the code as the server runs, without requiring a shutdown or restart, which is awesome for uptime |
| 00:55.37 | SpeedEvil | I've always wanted to handle 2000 calls on my n900. |
| 00:55.38 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 00:55.41 | teotwaki | haha |
| 00:56.07 | SpeedEvil | Actually I'm about to setup a SIP 'main' phone-number, for cost reasons. |
| 00:56.10 | teotwaki | it'll run on the n900, though I can't guarantee performance. |
| 00:56.37 | SpeedEvil | As wackily - I can get BTs 'low user rate' - if I have a broadband connection. |
| 00:56.44 | SpeedEvil | And do most of my calls over that. |
| 00:57.03 | teotwaki | I hear ya SpeedEvil |
| 00:57.10 | teotwaki | I came back from Australia nearly two years ago now |
| 00:57.41 | teotwaki | And France does provide seriously good benefits when it comes to internet and phone lines. |
| 00:57.58 | SD69 | merlin1991: does an OBS with harmattan and fremantle targets makes sense post maemo.org? |
| 00:59.21 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I suggested to mirror the wiki (aka wget it) some year ago - back when you all laughed at me, despite me telling you you never will get a warning prior to shutdown |
| 00:59.50 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I had nokia people tell me we'll get notice prior to shutdown (if it shuts down) |
| 01:00.09 | teotwaki | SpeedEvil: my ISP recently got into mobile phones... unlimited calls to landlines and mobiles to france, unlimited calls to landlines around the world (most of it anyway, roughly 40 countries), unlimited data (fair use of 3GB, lowered speed afterwards), unlimited texts and mms's: 16euros (14 quid) |
| 01:00.15 | merlin1991 | SD69: about obs I have no Idea, I heaven't used any obs so far |
| 01:00.20 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, and Nokia's word always been good for <fill in whatever you like> |
| 01:00.26 | SpeedEvil | teotwaki: That's quite good! |
| 01:00.43 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: hope for the best and prepare for the worst :) |
| 01:01.05 | merlin1991 | though prefereable I'd get a db dump for the wiki somehow instead of letting wget run mad |
| 01:01.07 | teotwaki | oh, and no 24-month or anything. No subscription fees, and no cancellation fees. |
| 01:02.07 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: yeah, so hope for "hey folks, wiki been down for 2 weeks now. It turned out it's just too much work to put it into working shape and condition again, so we decided we'll turn it down completely on end of this month. Until then it stays in limbo state" |
| 01:02.18 | teotwaki | And from the management console, you can freely change whether or not you want your contract to allow calls or anything that are not included in the contract |
| 01:02.40 | SpeedEvil | teotwaki:The most awesome ISP I've seen is andrews and arnold, for mobile. |
| 01:03.01 | teotwaki | they also created the cheapest contract ever: 2 euros. You get 60texts and 60 minutes for that. Because we're a customer of their DSL offer, we got that one for free. |
| 01:03.09 | SpeedEvil | http://aaisp.net.uk/telecoms.html |
| 01:03.17 | SpeedEvil | You can be your own APN |
| 01:04.00 | teotwaki | any text after those 60 cost 1 cent... That's ten times cheaper than most other operators |
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| 01:04.26 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: btw you'd need a db copy for any proper offline wikireader app anyway. Nokia never seemed like they'd be in love with this idea either |
| 01:04.45 | teotwaki | SpeedEvil: that's pretty sweet |
| 01:04.57 | teotwaki | SpeedEvil: I'll have to remember that when I move back to the UK. |
| 01:07.38 | teotwaki | I'm starting to enjoy seeing decent companies again |
| 01:07.56 | teotwaki | I feel we've been getting fucked for long enough |
| 01:08.19 | teotwaki | I don't mind paying a tiny bit more for people with good ethics, and who try to be "fair". |
| 01:08.20 | SpeedEvil | If only it was happening in the mobile space. |
| 01:08.35 | SpeedEvil | And in some cases the market is really very, very narrow. |
| 01:08.43 | SpeedEvil | For example - try to buy a 4:3 laptop. |
| 01:08.47 | teotwaki | heh |
| 01:08.50 | SpeedEvil | Or one even with 140dpi |
| 01:08.56 | teotwaki | I just bought a new computer, desktop |
| 01:09.02 | teotwaki | I wanted a 4:3 screen |
| 01:09.16 | teotwaki | Had I pushed for it, I would've paid 4-5 times more. |
| 01:09.43 | SpeedEvil | They are just about available still. |
| 01:10.00 | SpeedEvil | Bit you can get a 30" widescreen cheaper than a 20" 4:3 |
| 01:10.04 | SpeedEvil | - same vertical height |
| 01:10.08 | teotwaki | yeah |
| 01:10.20 | teotwaki | I've tried using a couple of screens in portrait |
| 01:10.21 | teotwaki | it sucks |
| 01:10.28 | SpeedEvil | Portrait is fail. |
| 01:10.36 | SpeedEvil | Especially with widescreen - it's too narrow |
| 01:10.38 | teotwaki | well, it would be good for most work us geeks do |
| 01:10.49 | teotwaki | I mean, my code fits nicely, and for documents it's pretty good as well |
| 01:11.04 | teotwaki | I've just learned to use vim and :vsp. |
| 01:11.06 | SD69 | merlin1991: DocScrutinizer: Nokia seems to think they have never "promised" us anything - http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1157882&postcount=710 |
| 01:11.32 | SpeedEvil | But the 30" ones - with 1600 vertical pixels - are probably good - if you have the desk space and cash. |
| 01:11.37 | SpeedEvil | - looking for a second hand one |
| 01:12.24 | teotwaki | I went for a good quality (colour and contrast/response times) 22" widescreen rather than whatever |
| 01:12.34 | SpeedEvil | Promised - in a manner that a legal case would succeed to force them - probably not. |
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| 01:15.37 | SD69 | SpeedEvil: exactly |
| 01:16.25 | SpeedEvil | It would be interesting to see some of the internal reasoning. |
| 01:16.38 | SpeedEvil | - why n9 wasn't released in UK/US |
| 01:21.16 | auenf | internal reasoning was cause n9 was only launched in strong symbian areas? |
| 01:21.32 | auenf | US is definately not a strong nokia area, let alone symbian |
| 01:21.41 | SpeedEvil | UK was. |
| 01:21.50 | SpeedEvil | To a reasonable degree |
| 01:21.54 | auenf | US is threoretically a strong windows phone area tho |
| 01:22.03 | auenf | is UK a strong windows phone area? |
| 01:22.35 | SpeedEvil | I think windows phone 7 has lived up to its promise in the UK. |
| 01:22.38 | SpeedEvil | It's sold 7. |
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| 01:24.33 | LaoLang_cool | hello, is maemo's offical develpment dead? |
| 01:27.06 | LaoLang_cool | Another question, the picture size in fmms' mms is too small, so I set the "Resize to" to Large under fmms' setting, but it doesn't work at all, what's wrong? |
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| 02:43.44 | Macor | robbiethe1st: i meant without a chroot ;) |
| 02:45.35 | robbiethe1st | uh |
| 02:47.24 | LaoLang_cool | Hi, morning, has maemo's development by nokia been dead already? |
| 02:50.55 | Macer | already? :) |
| 02:51.00 | Macer | it has been dead for like....... years |
| 02:51.05 | Macer | heh |
| 02:51.16 | LaoLang_cool | oh.. |
| 02:51.32 | LaoLang_cool | kay.. |
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| 02:55.20 | Macer | you asked earlier about me installing debian on the n810 |
| 02:55.36 | Macer | and said easydeb.. but i said i didn't want to use a chroot if i could avoid it |
| 02:55.39 | Macer | ;) |
| 02:57.14 | LaoLang_cool | Macer: me? |
| 02:57.23 | Macer | no |
| 02:57.27 | Macer | robbiethe1st: |
| 02:57.34 | LaoLang_cool | ok :) |
| 02:57.44 | Macer | ah well.. going to test out this lenovo thinkpad as a server since my artigo broke |
| 02:57.47 | Macer | :( |
| 02:57.58 | robbiethe1st | Yeah, well... |
| 02:58.15 | robbiethe1st | I don't even have a N810, but I figured a chroot would at least work |
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| 03:04.57 | Macer | yeah it would |
| 03:05.23 | Macer | i was trying to run it without the need to run maemo .... i'll track down gentoo i suppose i remember luke-jr working on that garbage distro on the n810 |
| 03:06.02 | luke-jr | f u |
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| 03:57.31 | Macer | LOL |
| 03:57.39 | Macer | damn luke-jr .... didn't even notice you were here :) |
| 03:57.57 | Macer | my n900 doesn't seem to be keeping its battery life long enough |
| 03:59.03 | Macer | how long is an n900 supposed to last without touching it with the screen off? |
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| 04:02.32 | robbiethe1st | Macer: if no programs are running? several days |
| 04:02.41 | robbiethe1st | If programs are still running? 8-24 hours |
| 04:04.28 | Macer | hm. does that include widgets? |
| 04:04.38 | Macer | or do those turn off when the scren is off? |
| 04:05.22 | Macer | i'm going to leave it alone and see how long it lasts... seems to be draining much faster than normal but then again i use it constantly but it seems off |
| 04:13.34 | SpeedEvil | Macer: 4 days+ |
| 04:13.55 | SpeedEvil | Macer: also - powertop |
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| 04:14.00 | SpeedEvil | and the battery meter script |
| 04:14.32 | SpeedEvil | Also - batteries purchased when the n900 is new will now have a ridiculous amount of internal resistnace. |
| 04:14.42 | SpeedEvil | even a 1.99 one from ebay is an improvement |
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| 04:25.27 | robbiethe1st | New battery wise, I recommend the ~$10 Japod ones off DealExtreme |
| 04:30.01 | Macer | i am using the $1.99 ebay ones ;) |
| 04:30.02 | Macer | lol |
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| 04:30.25 | Macer | i will try out powertop |
| 04:31.53 | Macer | i dont see a powertop |
| 04:32.02 | Macer | is it in devel or testing? |
| 04:32.21 | psycho_oreos | most likely in devel but could also be in testing |
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| 04:47.49 | Macer | hm |
| 04:48.18 | Macer | powertop is segfaulting |
| 04:52.29 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/powertop |
| 04:52.40 | SpeedEvil | I have no idea if this is the same version - WFM though |
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| 05:27.11 | Macer | goddamn |
| 05:27.25 | Macer | margaret thatcher was awesome |
| 05:27.30 | Macer | SINK IT! |
| 05:27.31 | Macer | lol |
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| 09:04.37 | LaoLang_cool | hello |
| 09:05.11 | LaoLang_cool | any fmms user? picture i mms of fmms is too small, can I get it larger? |
| 09:05.29 | LaoLang_cool | s/\<i\>/in |
| 09:06.03 | LaoLang_cool | I've set "Resize to" to large, but it doesn't work, or maybe it's another meaning that I misunderstand?... |
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| 09:14.50 | darkschneider | any way to sync n900 with icalendar format? |
| 09:18.59 | r00t|home | in worst case you'll have to write some code... |
| 09:20.39 | lartza_ | perhaps you could sync evolution with icalendar and sync n900 with evolution |
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| 09:49.29 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=491333#post491333 |
| 09:52.25 | DocScrutinizer | this powertop is a big mystery, as it seems nobody knows where from it originally came |
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| 09:53.07 | DocScrutinizer | probably Nokia "forgot to delete" it when shipping first developer/tester N900s |
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| 10:00.50 | DocScrutinizer | o.O powertop |
| 10:00.57 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/powertop/ |
| 10:01.21 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: WTF is the surce? |
| 10:01.25 | DocScrutinizer | source* |
| 10:04.09 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: and where's the changelog, and what are the diffs between 1.13 and 1.2? |
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| 10:23.32 | DocScrutinizer | dang, I'm fiddling with maemo since quite some years now, yet it never occurred to me to simly browse to http://repository.maemo.org/ on any NIT |
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| 10:38.23 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer: It's a package containing nokia's binary, I have no source |
| 10:39.01 | DocScrutinizer | why are you and this guy with unspeakable name maintainers? |
| 10:39.20 | MohammadAG | 1.13 is the PC version, I packaged Nokia's version |
| 10:39.30 | MohammadAG | From the binary on tmo |
| 10:39.36 | DocScrutinizer | mhmmmm |
| 10:39.53 | DocScrutinizer | I'm running 1.13.2 here on N900 just fine |
| 10:39.54 | MohammadAG | Which is from PR1.0 iirc |
| 10:40.18 | MohammadAG | Afaik nokia's version has changes or sth |
| 10:40.34 | MohammadAG | Anyway, I did it for convenience |
| 10:40.38 | DocScrutinizer | wtf is "nokia's version"? |
| 10:40.49 | MohammadAG | Ask ShadowJK or SpeedEvil |
| 10:40.58 | MohammadAG | One of them knows |
| 10:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | or rather, what's NOT nokia's version? |
| 10:42.57 | DocScrutinizer | as metioned I got Powertop 1.13.3 here on device, quite certainly from tmo post I linked above, and it works fine and seems what everybody is using |
| 10:44.12 | DocScrutinizer | I foggy remember I bitched why there's no powertop on my device, when I was new to N900 (aka PR1.0) |
| 10:45.14 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer: Oh 1.2 is just a bumped package version, powertop itself is 1.13 from tmo |
| 10:45.55 | MohammadAG | The major bump is due to some fuckup by the maemo.org packaging system |
| 10:46.26 | MohammadAG | It didn't accept 1.13-1 I think, don't remember exactly, this was over a year ago |
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| 10:51.46 | DocScrutinizer | dang, forced disconnect |
| 10:51.54 | DocScrutinizer | I foggy remember I bitched why there's no powertop on my device, when I was new to N900 (aka PR1.0) |
| 10:51.57 | DocScrutinizer | incredibly obscure history of that tool |
| 10:52.00 | DocScrutinizer | quite evidently what we got on N900 is only loosely related to intel's powertop |
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| 10:53.31 | DocScrutinizer | all hail to povbot irclogs |
| 10:53.38 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: :nod: |
| 10:53.51 | DocScrutinizer | thanks for packaging |
| 10:55.00 | DocScrutinizer | mgedmin: probably it's been mentioned WAY too rarely: many thanks for povbot and logging |
| 10:55.23 | MohammadAG | Yw :) |
| 10:57.25 | DocScrutinizer | figure it! FIVE MINUTES until friggin DSL allowed reconnect. Long enough to make me think I'm obviously breathing bytes, not air |
| 10:57.32 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
| 10:58.46 | DocScrutinizer | (dang, msg from supervisor: "all scripts breathe bytes, you idiot") |
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| 12:02.22 | darkschneider | hello, anyone using syncEvolution with horde via syncML, the only info is quite outdated (2006) and looks like a bit has changed |
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| 13:07.26 | DocScrutinizer | I'd not expect any info from 2006 being applicable at all today |
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| 13:49.03 | darkschneider | DocScrutinizer: yes indeed :) |
| 13:49.38 | darkschneider | i'm still trying to figure it out :D at least i found the config file... but now figuring out the rest looks more complex |
| 13:51.34 | DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: I think there should be some better more recent info about syncing at large in wiki |
| 13:51.55 | darkschneider | mmmm i'll regoogle if you say so |
| 13:51.55 | DocScrutinizer | no idea how much this is applicable to your particular usecase though |
| 13:52.43 | darkschneider | yeah, but i did not found much, so let's look again, syncML is not that uncommon... (that why i installed horde on our productions server at first :D ) |
| 13:55.18 | DocScrutinizer | WTF happened to wiki layout?? |
| 13:56.43 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Search?ns0=1&search=sync&searchx=Search |
| 13:57.54 | DocScrutinizer | MEH there's an almost invisible search textbox uper right. Anybody else "seeing" this as grey in grey, without any label? |
| 13:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: is http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync/Usage_of_syncevolution what you were looking for? |
| 13:59.37 | darkschneider | (thanks on phone) |
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| 14:04.51 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Search?search=syncml&go=Go |
| 14:05.53 | darkschneider | (re, you know sunday.. gf calls, thanks for help, looking at links now) |
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| 14:07.04 | darkschneider | ok the first two results and the other are the one i was looking at already, daly they do not offer much insight :( |
| 14:08.34 | darkschneider | indeed, horde, even if listed as supported, does not have a template ready, this is because horde is not a company offerend service, but it'a a framework (sorry if i'm saying something obvious to you, do not want to be offensive) |
| 14:09.30 | darkschneider | i wonder if i can find a way to contact one of syncevolution guys and updated the wiki with his help |
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| 15:04.22 | darkschneider | DocScrutinizer: just to give away some happyness, i do not know how i managed to sync calendar... for contacts i'm working on it... so it's possible to have it work |
| 15:04.53 | DocScrutinizer | cool |
| 15:05.08 | DocScrutinizer | comsider to update the wiki, please :-) |
| 15:05.31 | darkschneider | yeah, if i manage to make contacts work i will for sure, it's needed |
| 15:05.39 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 15:05.49 | darkschneider | none should be condamned to spend 6 hours on it like me :D |
| 15:05.51 | DocScrutinizer | much appreciated, thanks a lot |
| 15:06.20 | darkschneider | but wait... contacts are still to make work... |
| 15:06.55 | DocScrutinizer | I'm sure each detail on what you found is valuable, even when you get stuck somewhere |
| 15:07.55 | DocScrutinizer | so thers could avoid same deadends and continue where you stopped (in case you actually get stuck, or lose interest) |
| 15:08.06 | DocScrutinizer | others* |
| 15:08.16 | darkschneider | yep you right, bettter i write some lines just now |
| 15:08.29 | darkschneider | ok time for anoteh registration on a wiki :D |
| 15:08.44 | DocScrutinizer | it's awiki, it doesn't mind frequent edits, as long as they aren't too messy |
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| 15:09.26 | DocScrutinizer | and for the really "volatile" stuff there's a discussion page backed up on each wiki page |
| 15:10.06 | DocScrutinizer | a widely unrealized and underrated feature |
| 15:10.06 | darkschneider | i see, as usual but if there is any detail i should know say me |
| 15:10.26 | DocScrutinizer | no special details |
| 15:10.53 | DocScrutinizer | just do yourself and reviewers a favour and register |
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| 15:11.23 | DocScrutinizer | it's way more convenient to edit wiki when you're registered |
| 15:12.01 | DocScrutinizer | and we don't need to review every single little edit of yours once we know you're not a spammer |
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| 15:14.25 | DocScrutinizer | try to keep in mind this wiki is about maemo, not about N900 |
| 15:15.20 | darkschneider | argh right, that will be a problem |
| 15:15.47 | darkschneider | as it's the only maemo device i have tried, so i do not know differences |
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| 15:17.08 | DocScrutinizer | no problem, just don't forget to set your topics right, so othwrs know what you're actually talking about |
| 15:18.21 | DocScrutinizer | especially think twice befoe you "fix" things that seem to be ncorrect *for N900* |
| 15:19.01 | DocScrutinizer | they might be meant for older maemo versins, and somebody else has missed to set his topics right |
| 15:19.18 | darkschneider | k |
| 15:19.39 | DocScrutinizer | if in doubt, just ask here for a review |
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| 15:24.34 | DocScrutinizer | to get an idea about the "problem", just look at flashing page content as well as history ;-) |
| 15:24.37 | DocScrutinizer | ~flashing |
| 15:24.38 | infobot | it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 15:25.18 | darkschneider | i see |
| 15:25.35 | DocScrutinizer | last resort was me adding >>This page has seen massive edits to get it in line with N900 details of flashing. N8x0 owners might want to have a look to older versions, like http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Updating_the_firmware&oldid=17120 << |
| 15:25.46 | darkschneider | lol poor |
| 15:26.13 | darkschneider | ok starting to edit |
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| 16:10.05 | darkschneider | DocScrutinizer: should i sign? |
| 16:10.49 | DocScrutinizer | sign as in "---" (or whatever it was)? nah, not on front pages, but for sure on discussion pages |
| 16:11.24 | DocScrutinizer | sign as in "register/sign-in": sure! |
| 16:11.47 | darkschneider | ok ready for your reading if you have time: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync/Usage_of_syncevolution#Horde |
| 16:12.04 | DocScrutinizer | I'll give it a cursory look |
| 16:12.12 | darkschneider | i meant as to signature, thanks |
| 16:12.25 | darkschneider | so i can edit and fix things if you find terrible stuff |
| 16:12.48 | darkschneider | hey you have to follow your name! I try to be dark and schnider all the time :) |
| 16:14.08 | darkschneider | ok found a typo. if you find more, say so i make one edit for all typos |
| 16:14.46 | DocScrutinizer | looks pretty fine :-) |
| 16:15.41 | DocScrutinizer | sorry no time to give it a thorough proofread now, will come back to it later |
| 16:16.11 | DocScrutinizer | many thanks! |
| 16:17.27 | darkschneider | no prob :) really thanks already for all your time :) |
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| 16:17.34 | DocScrutinizer | YW |
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| 16:50.45 | merlin1991 | darkschneider: found a few typos: I did not test it/ Now press the title bar/ but add/ any more detail/ or the sync style |
| 16:51.25 | Macer | DocScrutinizer: lol. well it is segfaulting |
| 16:51.43 | DocScrutinizer | eh? |
| 16:51.56 | Macer | poeertop |
| 16:52.03 | Macer | from the devel repo |
| 16:52.21 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm |
| 16:52.29 | Macer | i just removed the widgets |
| 16:52.39 | Macer | and will see if they are the cause of the drain |
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| 16:53.36 | DocScrutinizer | the one from tmo .zip just works for me |
| 16:53.45 | Macer | hm |
| 16:53.52 | Macer | where is it? |
| 16:53.57 | Macer | i will download it |
| 16:54.06 | Macer | the repo one is broken |
| 16:54.20 | Macer | i am losing power somewhere and dont know where |
| 16:55.11 | Macer | algthough.. i am using battery eye to see the power drain. during use i really lose it but that is understandable |
| 16:55.24 | Macer | but when idle i am still only getting arounf 10 hrs |
| 16:55.29 | Macer | around |
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| 17:15.29 | DocScrutinizer | I pasted the link already |
| 17:15.35 | DocScrutinizer | see backscroll |
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| 18:12.19 | Macer | ugh |
| 18:12.24 | Macer | i want to run |
| 18:12.34 | Macer | and ecoach and the gps is taking forever to lock |
| 18:12.45 | Macer | wtf? |
| 18:12.58 | Macer | isnt agps supposed to help with this? |
| 18:13.20 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 18:13.39 | DocScrutinizer | what's your supl server? |
| 18:13.55 | Macer | the nokia one |
| 18:14.02 | DocScrutinizer | forget it, use google |
| 18:14.03 | Macer | is there a better one? |
| 18:14.10 | Macer | what is google's? |
| 18:14.18 | DocScrutinizer | same, just google |
| 18:14.24 | Macer | supl.google.com? |
| 18:14.29 | DocScrutinizer | yup iirc |
| 18:15.12 | Macer | wow lol |
| 18:15.17 | DocScrutinizer | works? |
| 18:15.19 | Macer | once i put it in it locked lol |
| 18:15.23 | DocScrutinizer | heh |
| 18:15.25 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 18:15.33 | Macer | nice :) |
| 18:15.45 | DocScrutinizer | actually not nice - of Nokia |
| 18:16.04 | Macer | yeah |
| 18:16.20 | Macer | as long as it works tho... ok... let me get my run on lol |
| 18:22.02 | darkschneider | merlin1991: thanks, fixing them now |
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| 18:37.30 | darkschneider | Macer: it is taking forever.. i never managed to improve it without a small trick: open maep, no idea why, but with that open localization become much faster (i tested also the same with ovi maps...) |
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| 19:20.07 | Macer | nice |
| 19:20.15 | Macer | that thing locked like a champ .. thanks :) |
| 19:20.48 | Macer | darkschneider: it seemed to lock on almost 20secs after i changed from supl.nokia.com to supl.google.com |
| 19:20.59 | Macer | don't know if it was that or it just finally locked on but it worked great |
| 19:21.09 | Macer | ecoach kind of sucks tho..but it gets the job done :) |
| 19:21.52 | darkschneider | yah ecoach miss features |
| 19:22.01 | darkschneider | i think author needs stilumus |
| 19:22.09 | darkschneider | since the base is very good |
| 19:22.10 | Macer | well.. it isn't as good as endomondo on android at the least |
| 19:22.22 | darkschneider | true, but it's a problem of userbase |
| 19:22.25 | Macer | but it still works well enough |
| 19:22.34 | Macer | maybe... lazy n900 users don't want to work out :) |
| 19:22.41 | darkschneider | i have to say that battery wise it's good also |
| 19:22.45 | Macer | only people with iphones work out heh |
| 19:22.48 | darkschneider | eheh yeah |
| 19:23.02 | darkschneider | naa ihpone people use the app to show they have the app |
| 19:23.09 | Macer | lol |
| 19:23.11 | darkschneider | they just start it "because it's cool" :D |
| 19:23.28 | Macer | well.. some of them run with it strapped to their arm to show they have an iphone every now and then |
| 19:23.48 | Macer | nobody cares about my n900 :( |
| 19:24.05 | Macer | i bet they would if i started shooting the built in death ray at them |
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| 19:24.42 | darkschneider | and they think it's cool to share around. When i learned course length and such, i stopped needing ecoach to track my progress :D Sad enough i bout the very nice polar wearlink bt sensor, but it's the only one not supported! don't do my name error... if you buy a sensor get anohter (even if the sensor quality will be lower and price higher) |
| 19:25.36 | darkschneider | i hears they have an app against death rays called iDodge, but not sure they are really enough a.g.i.l.e. to use it :D |
| 19:26.15 | darkschneider | (what a terrible coder joke.. ok sorry... i'll go back trying to have things done) |
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| 19:36.01 | vizzy | hi. is it right that there was a powerkernel update a few days before? |
| 19:37.11 | vizzy | i ask because i updated to the new version as my n900 suggested. now some of the apps wont run. e.g. wlan gets unstable, bleeding edge drivers wont load, marble wont start, ans some other apps that were working nicely before stopped working or exit unexpected |
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| 19:48.44 | vizzy | im confused about all the shorts, OC, SR etc |
| 19:48.54 | vizzy | can i revert to kp49 somehow? |
| 19:50.30 | freemangordon | vizzy, you need bleeding edge drivers kompiled against KP50, see the thread on TMO on how to get them |
| 19:50.35 | freemangordon | *compiled |
| 19:50.48 | vizzy | i read something about that, yes |
| 19:50.57 | vizzy | but i have no clue how to do it |
| 19:51.04 | vizzy | tmo? |
| 19:51.10 | freemangordon | talk.maemo.org |
| 19:51.36 | vizzy | ah, already there, reading through the kp50 thread, which is confusing me much more |
| 19:51.43 | freemangordon | why? |
| 19:54.14 | vizzy | because my english isnt that good and i dont understand all the shorts |
| 19:54.20 | vizzy | what is sr? |
| 19:54.32 | vizzy | oc is over clocking i 'guess' after a while |
| 19:54.36 | Sicelo | Smart Reflex |
| 19:54.37 | freemangordon | aah, that stands for SmartReflex |
| 19:55.13 | vizzy | ok, and what is smart reflex? *g sorry to ask , but i heard that before, or i see an option somewhere but i have no clue what it does |
| 19:55.26 | vizzy | or if i have it activated or not :) |
| 19:55.30 | freemangordon | promises to use abbreviations never again on talk.maemo.org |
| 19:55.53 | freemangordon | vizzy, better use it, it should give you better battery life |
| 19:56.41 | vizzy | ok, if i find the option again i will enable it |
| 19:57.00 | freemangordon | otherwise just google for smartreflex, there are good explanations over the internet |
| 19:57.19 | freemangordon | vizzy, where do you expect to find that option? |
| 19:57.29 | vizzy | but i really would like to have my old kp49 back, it was working nice, i didnt expect problems after updating to kp50, but now a lot of apps are going crazy it seems |
| 19:57.39 | vizzy | freemangordon, tell me |
| 19:58.33 | freemangordon | vizzy, KP50 should be more stable than KP49, what overclocking profile do you use? or do you use some fancy application to set up kernel-power and overclocking? |
| 19:59.10 | vizzy | overclocking profile? no, i had a widget running on the desktop that let me select cpu speed.... |
| 19:59.13 | darkschneider | yess :)) did it, ok updating the guide so that eveybody cn sync with horde :) ( i'm sure there is at least one other sysadmin in the world that want that his phone get synced with horde) |
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| 19:59.32 | freemangordon | vizzy, which widget is that? |
| 19:59.51 | vizzy | good question, it always has gone after a reboot, like most widgets |
| 20:00.06 | freemangordon | what? |
| 20:00.27 | vizzy | maxCPU is its name |
| 20:00.56 | vizzy | freemangordon, yes, for me i cant add widgets to desktop that will stay there after a reboot |
| 20:01.11 | freemangordon | well, that is not normal. at all |
| 20:01.18 | NIN102 | your system is messed up. |
| 20:01.31 | freemangordon | :nod: |
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| 20:02.14 | vizzy | grml :) |
| 20:02.28 | freemangordon | vizzy, do you have root access enabled. i.e. rootsh? |
| 20:02.33 | vizzy | qcpufreq let me select smartreflex, i enabled it now |
| 20:02.43 | vizzy | freemangordon, yes, i use ssh for this |
| 20:02.50 | freemangordon | good |
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| 22:29.49 | DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: nice! :-D |
| 22:30.38 | darkschneider | :) yep i'm happy, it basically works now :) i just have to convince syncevolution guy to add a template for horde, so users can just select it from the list and they do not have to do something "special" anymore |
| 22:31.17 | DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: who's the syncevo guy? |
| 22:32.23 | darkschneider | also overcoming syncevolution "only one sync a day" is something i will add a note of. Tomorrow i test with allarmd, but the fact that it's only in -devel is bad. he is named Patrick Ohly |
| 22:33.37 | darkschneider | i think he is the main developer (maybe from intel? given that syncevo was moblin, if i understood right) |
| 22:34.53 | DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: what is only in -devel? alarmed? |
| 22:35.04 | darkschneider | yes, that what i read around |
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| 22:35.32 | DocScrutinizer | alarmed is working nicely, thanks to shapeshifter for the great app |
| 22:36.31 | darkschneider | i see it is, many cite it with pleasure, it's needed for sync, you can't live by sync just once a day, that why i want to add a note about it |
| 22:36.40 | darkschneider | it's something most of users will want |
| 22:36.52 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 22:38.52 | DocScrutinizer | iirc shapeshifter actually implemented my suggestion to do custom actions in alarmd via scripts you can select |
| 22:39.17 | DocScrutinizer | so you could ship the matching alarmed script to control syncevo |
| 22:39.42 | darkschneider | interesting |
| 22:39.52 | darkschneider | that is something i like |
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| 22:40.45 | DocScrutinizer | of course you also could implement the UI into syncevo and it controls alarmed via cmdline parameters |
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| 22:41.24 | DocScrutinizer | the CLI should be comprehensive |
| 22:41.25 | darkschneider | nut the command line to execute will need a parameter so mmm i have to see if there is away to guess it. mm I can, but i perceive syncevo as an unfriendly opensource project |
| 22:41.42 | darkschneider | s/not/but |
| 22:41.55 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 22:42.16 | DocScrutinizer | cmdline interface has proper help |
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| 22:43.00 | darkschneider | like you know.. one of those project that is opensource, but it's not really open... same feeling you get when you talk to amd official open driver developer... it's "open" like a jail.. air will pass, people not |
| 22:43.03 | DocScrutinizer | but you can as well resort to alarmed GUI to select syncevo as action for arbitrary alarm event |
| 22:43.33 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 22:44.36 | darkschneider | i'll have a look tomorrow and see what is best... maybe i should write syncevo guy and see the reply before thinking he is not open.. but i really fear he will reply badly.. and then my mood of putting time in this instead of good ol' payed work would decline by far... you know i coded enough years for free open source project.... |
| 22:44.57 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, if you find anything odd in alarmed, please ping shapeshifter and/or me. I helped a bit with the app and I'm very interested in it working correctly and being convenient to use |
| 22:45.20 | darkschneider | sure! that is a nice offer :) |
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| 22:47.01 | DocScrutinizer | would also like to know how to run backup app unattended, but hasn't found anything yet |
| 22:47.46 | DocScrutinizer | for the obvious purpose of doing backups on a rgular schedule |
| 22:48.22 | darkschneider | yep... losing phone pics and such is very bad... |
| 22:49.01 | DocScrutinizer | well, I shipped around that by doing backups to my PC via cronjob and rsync via ssh |
| 22:49.51 | DocScrutinizer | and, of course, with backupmenu. THE app for N900 |
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| 22:51.23 | darkschneider | i just dump the thing via rsync and ssh to my server.. but it's a crappy approach |
| 22:51.41 | darkschneider | i think i'll investigate yours |
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| 23:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools |
| 23:00.11 | infobot | from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 23:00.34 | DocScrutinizer | my approach is not any different ;-) |
| 23:00.51 | darkschneider | will see :) |
| 23:01.09 | darkschneider | btw going sleep, i just figured it's 1.00 here.. need sleeeep |
| 23:01.14 | DocScrutinizer | but get backupmenu, it's indispensible |
| 23:01.24 | darkschneider | :) thansk for all the help and support today :) |
| 23:01.31 | darkschneider | i will :) |
| 23:01.46 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, same for me, but I'm hurt by the summertime |
| 23:02.19 | DocScrutinizer | yw, thanks for doing a much needed update to wiki |
| 23:02.51 | darkschneider | :) |
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| 23:19.14 | Cor-Ai | sorry for that! |
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