| 00:00.48 | int_ua | szopin|afk: wait a minute until I confirm it's working :) |
| 00:01.14 | szopin|afk | sure thing |
| 00:01.52 | int_ua | ok |
| 00:01.55 | int_ua | it booted |
| 00:02.03 | int_ua | not really actually |
| 00:02.30 | int_ua | "No available ptys". PanzerSajt encountered this error |
| 00:02.32 | szopin|afk | oO |
| 00:03.17 | int_ua | but I've just installed only kernel package |
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| 00:04.11 | int_ua | szopin|afk: It took me ~3-4 hours on my old laptop with dist-upgrade and 12.04 image |
| 00:04.44 | szopin|afk | yeah, planning a repeat: start today, finish in the morning |
| 00:05.11 | szopin|afk | bruteforcing is not an option with such eta's |
| 00:05.46 | int_ua | szopin|afk: With revision 62 you should get at least the same results (booted with No available ptys" error) but maybe installing other Nemo packages will fix it, IDK |
| 00:06.11 | szopin|afk | on it |
| 00:07.04 | int_ua | wait |
| 00:07.16 | szopin|afk | daily/mobiledaily? |
| 00:07.20 | szopin|afk | waiting... |
| 00:07.20 | int_ua | szopin|afk: are you using 11.10 image? |
| 00:07.43 | int_ua | I've used daily |
| 00:07.44 | szopin|afk | want to try 12.04, but can go ahead with 11 |
| 00:08.11 | szopin|afk | tell me which is better to test to get meaningful results |
| 00:08.25 | int_ua | 11.10 will not work because I've just understood that I've hard-coded armhf arch for Nemo packages conversion |
| 00:09.19 | szopin|afk | so go-ahead with daily/mobiledaily is ok? |
| 00:09.32 | int_ua | szopin|afk: You've got 11.10 booting? with what revision? |
| 00:09.45 | int_ua | yeah, 12.04 should be ok |
| 00:09.49 | szopin|afk | yesterday's |
| 00:10.08 | szopin|afk | but with random errors/crits/reboots every now and then |
| 00:10.27 | szopin|afk | sounds like the errata that got modest randomly crashing |
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| 00:11.31 | int_ua | well, it's a simple fix for 11.10 + Nemo support... And it should work. If you want 11.1o I can make it in 3-5 minutes |
| 00:12.07 | int_ua | otherwise use 12.04 :) |
| 00:12.12 | szopin|afk | hmmm |
| 00:12.22 | szopin|afk | now only asks for fat and swp |
| 00:12.41 | szopin|afk | pretty sure it asked for 3 partitions yesterday |
| 00:12.51 | szopin|afk | going for 12.04 atm |
| 00:13.11 | szopin|afk | having 11 would be nice, but no idea if they thumbfixed it |
| 00:13.32 | szopin|afk | 12 got much higher chance of this being incorporated |
| 00:13.51 | int_ua | ok, let's stick with 12.04 because that fix may break both |
| 00:14.27 | int_ua | I've switched swap and ext and now ext takes all available space |
| 00:14.44 | szopin|afk | if 11 would run stabler, why not, but with 12 running... unless it is much faster, no need I guess |
| 00:15.16 | szopin|afk | hmmm still dling stuff... oh right |
| 00:15.24 | szopin|afk | only got 11 dled |
| 00:15.31 | szopin|afk | now it's precise-... |
| 00:15.34 | szopin|afk | :D |
| 00:15.53 | int_ua | :) |
| 00:16.34 | szopin|afk | btw, I selected ofono now and before |
| 00:16.37 | int_ua | BTW, since it's _daily_, it's recommended to remove old image every day. In theory, of course :) |
| 00:16.47 | szopin|afk | know what to install to actually test it? |
| 00:16.48 | int_ua | And& |
| 00:16.54 | int_ua | and? |
| 00:17.23 | szopin|afk | meego ofono package says, needs testing/confirming |
| 00:17.33 | int_ua | I've tested it myself only once. But there are two packages after it in the menu that should work with it |
| 00:17.47 | int_ua | meego? |
| 00:17.47 | szopin|afk | made a call??? |
| 00:17.55 | szopin|afk | yeah |
| 00:18.00 | int_ua | yeah, but without any sound |
| 00:18.04 | szopin|afk | it's yellow status |
| 00:18.07 | szopin|afk | ouch |
| 00:18.36 | szopin|afk | so hardly working considering sound is crucial for phone comm |
| 00:18.58 | int_ua | and it was on 11.10, with old ofono. There are 1.0 version, but someone has to compile it. |
| 00:19.01 | SpeedEvil | ponders that his calltime on the phone does not exceed 30 mins. |
| 00:19.04 | szopin|afk | hope it will be easier to troubleshoot than nit |
| 00:19.06 | SpeedEvil | In 2 years. |
| 00:19.19 | szopin|afk | hehe |
| 00:19.24 | int_ua | =D |
| 00:19.31 | szopin|afk | not much customer service anger there I guess |
| 00:19.55 | szopin|afk | got 4x more on calls to cust serv |
| 00:20.07 | int_ua | BTW, I've used command-line test |
| 00:20.10 | szopin|afk | and 20x more on gf alone |
| 00:20.13 | int_ua | from ofono.org IIRC |
| 00:20.43 | szopin|afk | getting a distro with voice will be a killer to maemo as we know it |
| 00:21.23 | szopin|afk | not in a bad way, just a sign to move to a newer platform that works |
| 00:21.29 | int_ua | well, I don't want to kill maemo |
| 00:21.48 | szopin|afk | kernel and glib/libc are currently keeping fremantle bit behind |
| 00:21.52 | int_ua | All I want is to use latest software |
| 00:22.09 | szopin|afk | me neither, but if you got working alternative... why not work on it too? |
| 00:22.35 | szopin|afk | upstream fixes for device, get an up-to-date everything for arm |
| 00:22.48 | int_ua | Besides, there are no ready-to-use phone applications, are there? |
| 00:23.07 | szopin|afk | exactly,latest glib libc6 everything |
| 00:23.16 | szopin|afk | no idea |
| 00:23.51 | szopin|afk | seen linphone as 'to download' today in 11.10 |
| 00:24.12 | szopin|afk | but was on a bus, maybe it is frontend for ofono?? |
| 00:24.49 | szopin|afk | as soon as you can text/call someone from ubuntu whole paradigm has shifted |
| 00:24.51 | int_ua | I've checked it's site just yesterday, it said it's only SIP+something |
| 00:25.41 | szopin|afk | :( |
| 00:25.48 | int_ua | but maybe I've missed something |
| 00:25.59 | szopin|afk | might be a wild goose chase |
| 00:26.44 | szopin|afk | but if newer glib works on 12, porting or just copying it with compatible rest of libs could update fremantle |
| 00:26.54 | szopin|afk | something we cannot expect from N |
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| 00:29.23 | Pali | maemo.org is down?? |
| 00:29.35 | szopin|afk | at this time? |
| 00:29.48 | szopin|afk | nope |
| 00:29.53 | szopin|afk | works for me |
| 00:30.02 | szopin|afk | talk. at least |
| 00:30.19 | int_ua | Down for me |
| 00:30.21 | szopin|afk | maemo.org seems so |
| 00:30.21 | int_ua | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/maemo.org |
| 00:30.47 | szopin|afk | talk.maemo.org works |
| 00:31.07 | szopin|afk | switcheroo |
| 00:35.45 | szopin|afk | hmm sometihng is wrong |
| 00:36.04 | szopin|afk | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 segfault |
| 00:36.09 | Pali | woking again |
| 00:36.55 | szopin|afk | install.sh line 282: 2490 segfault chroot $mountpoint_target /tmp/install-chroot-part.sh |
| 00:37.26 | szopin|afk | cp: cannot stat '/mnt/boot.scr': no such file or dir |
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| 00:38.00 | int_ua | szopin|afk: hmmm |
| 00:38.03 | szopin|afk | right after vmlinuz -> /mnt/vmlinuz |
| 00:38.28 | int_ua | szopin|afk: What is you desktop version? |
| 00:38.34 | szopin|afk | 11.10 |
| 00:38.46 | int_ua | szopin|afk: vmlinuz? |
| 00:38.51 | szopin|afk | ? |
| 00:39.08 | szopin|afk | it was the line before qemu panicking |
| 00:39.17 | int_ua | can you post output on pastebin? |
| 00:39.34 | szopin|afk | sure |
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| 00:40.42 | szopin|afk | pastebin.com/E8KiS9MA |
| 00:40.51 | int_ua | szopin|afk: there are no actions with vmlinuz in install.sh |
| 00:41.16 | szopin|afk | right after var/run |
| 00:42.13 | int_ua | oh, got it. It was cp output |
| 00:42.26 | szopin|afk | yeah |
| 00:42.38 | szopin|afk | though qemu before, not sure |
| 00:42.52 | int_ua | what is your qemu version? |
| 00:43.10 | szopin|afk | lol, not installed |
| 00:43.40 | szopin|afk | advises me to aptget install qemu-kvm |
| 00:43.45 | int_ua | 0_o |
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| 00:44.04 | szopin|afk | how did it brick... :/ |
| 00:44.13 | int_ua | I should've checked it in the script |
| 00:44.34 | int_ua | I mean there are checks present, let me check these checks) |
| 00:44.41 | szopin|afk | going to install and retry |
| 00:45.32 | int_ua | I've pushed new revision with arch fix |
| 00:45.44 | int_ua | but it will not change anything for 12.04 |
| 00:46.11 | szopin|afk | so retry... gonna pull latest anyway |
| 00:46.29 | int_ua | BTW, you need to unmount /mnt manually |
| 00:46.29 | szopin|afk | 63? |
| 00:46.36 | int_ua | yeah, 63 |
| 00:47.07 | szopin|afk | /dev/sdc1? |
| 00:47.12 | szopin|afk | no /mnt |
| 00:48.34 | int_ua | Just use line 15 and line 302 from install.sh |
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| 00:51.47 | szopin|afk | now they got used... fuser lists nothing, hope disconnecting doesn't fsck it |
| 00:53.06 | int_ua | wait |
| 00:53.14 | int_ua | did you use line 302? |
| 00:53.28 | szopin|afk | no, just disconnected |
| 00:53.48 | szopin|afk | what is line 302? |
| 00:53.57 | int_ua | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.18 | int_ua | line from install.sh that unmounts it correctly |
| 00:54.20 | szopin|afk | wouldn't disconnecting kill those? |
| 00:54.26 | szopin|afk | one sec |
| 00:54.31 | int_ua | anyway, you will reformat it |
| 00:55.29 | szopin|afk | not sure if copying all that $will work |
| 00:56.32 | int_ua | it will work affter copying line 15, see above :) |
| 00:58.34 | szopin|afk | going to reboot... now it's all busy |
| 00:59.01 | szopin|afk | mountpoint /media/source doesn't seem to exist |
| 01:02.35 | int_ua | wait, why reboot? |
| 01:03.08 | int_ua | to purge all mounts? |
| 01:03.22 | szopin|afk | got sdc busy |
| 01:03.25 | szopin|afk | now it's gone |
| 01:04.40 | szopin|afk | oh wow |
| 01:05.29 | szopin|afk | seems I somehow partitioned emmc to 8g fat/1g swap/18g ext3 |
| 01:06.03 | szopin|afk | sd doesn't even show up in gparted lolol |
| 01:06.11 | szopin|afk | neato |
| 01:06.40 | int_ua | do you have 32Gb? |
| 01:07.02 | szopin|afk | yup, both emmc and sd |
| 01:07.41 | int_ua | wait, you've partitioned eMMC?! |
| 01:07.48 | szopin|afk | yup |
| 01:07.50 | int_ua | >_< |
| 01:07.59 | szopin|afk | no |
| 01:08.01 | szopin|afk | wait |
| 01:08.08 | szopin|afk | refreshed gparted says no |
| 01:08.20 | int_ua | 0_o |
| 01:08.21 | szopin|afk | but file manager in N900 would disagree |
| 01:08.33 | int_ua | hmm |
| 01:08.36 | szopin|afk | ffs |
| 01:08.44 | szopin|afk | I have no idea what is going on |
| 01:08.48 | int_ua | what does fdisk -l says? |
| 01:08.53 | szopin|afk | file manager now lists empty dirs |
| 01:08.58 | szopin|afk | let me check mc |
| 01:09.28 | int_ua | do not write anything to that dirs |
| 01:09.29 | szopin|afk | mc reports only DCIM dir |
| 01:09.40 | szopin|afk | but as mounted |
| 01:09.45 | szopin|afk | this is expected |
| 01:09.56 | szopin|afk | lets hope gparted now got it right |
| 01:10.14 | int_ua | I'm not sure that it can be rescued if you've really partitioned eMMC |
| 01:10.25 | int_ua | I mean the data on it |
| 01:10.29 | szopin|afk | I hope this was just ubuntu fluke |
| 01:10.39 | szopin|afk | never issued any command on sdb |
| 01:10.43 | int_ua | Did you unplug it? |
| 01:10.51 | szopin|afk | nothing worth keeping there |
| 01:10.59 | int_ua | please check fdisk -l |
| 01:11.07 | szopin|afk | except backupmenu, but phone is still working :) |
| 01:11.16 | szopin|afk | no... time to install :) |
| 01:11.32 | int_ua | ... |
| 01:11.34 | szopin|afk | srsly, nothing to lose |
| 01:11.44 | int_ua | ok, I have to go to sleep |
| 01:11.48 | szopin|afk | contacts sms should be on rootfs |
| 01:11.50 | szopin|afk | me too |
| 01:11.57 | szopin|afk | last run |
| 01:11.58 | int_ua | Hope you will succeed ;) |
| 01:12.02 | szopin|afk | cya soon |
| 01:12.06 | szopin|afk | will report back |
| 01:12.10 | szopin|afk | :D |
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| 01:12.49 | int_ua | contacts are on eMMC. But they are not in MyDocs |
| 01:13.23 | szopin|afk | ouch |
| 01:13.27 | int_ua | and AFAIU you cannot get /home corrupted from PC |
| 01:13.35 | szopin|afk | nah |
| 01:13.51 | szopin|afk | corrupting ext2/3... you would need intent |
| 01:13.54 | int_ua | But I'm not sure that it will boot if you've deleted MyDocs |
| 01:14.04 | szopin|afk | ??? |
| 01:14.13 | szopin|afk | you can boot on /rootfs alone |
| 01:14.22 | szopin|afk | MyDocs gbets loaded last |
| 01:14.23 | int_ua | ok |
| 01:14.29 | szopin|afk | after everything else |
| 01:14.37 | int_ua | didn't try it myself :)) |
| 01:14.40 | szopin|afk | no boot thingies there |
| 01:14.58 | szopin|afk | else you could make rootfs space with mydocs |
| 01:15.09 | int_ua | anyway, see you tomorrow :) |
| 01:15.12 | szopin|afk | but it is much later mounted |
| 01:15.15 | szopin|afk | cyas! |
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| 02:31.11 | LaoLang_cool | anyone use fmms? I like the notification sound of it, I want to find where the sound is, so I can set sms notification's sound to it too |
| 02:33.40 | LaoLang_cool | ok, I've found it, it's email1 :) |
| 02:35.14 | LaoLang_cool | How to set it to email1... it's not listed under the setting for sms... |
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| 04:02.22 | zenithzephyr | Is anyone know about mono&moonlight? |
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| 06:00.45 | psycho_oreos | anyone happen to know the package name that contains the GNU version of ps? not ps as in postscript but ps as in that process viewer tool. I'm trying to find the offending process that is deliberately shutting off wlan0 interface |
| 06:14.41 | Sicelo | hmm.. psycho_oreos, i don't remember too well now, but check out |
| 06:14.46 | Sicelo | ~jrtools |
| 06:14.46 | infobot | [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 06:16.00 | psycho_oreos | Sicelo, thanks, going to have a quick glance. I'm just really pissed off that there's a process that is deliberately turning wlan0 down, its evident in both dmesg and in ip but I can't find the bloody culprit |
| 06:16.23 | Sicelo | either coreutils-gnu or procps :/ |
| 06:16.52 | DocScrutinizer | procps? |
| 06:18.05 | psycho_oreos | its definitely not coreutils-gnu, I already have that installed, checked the contents of that package and there's no gnu ps tool |
| 06:18.07 | DocScrutinizer | though I'm not all that sure how it will help to find a process that shuts down wkan |
| 06:18.18 | psycho_oreos | thanks, going to use procps |
| 06:18.21 | DocScrutinizer | procps!! |
| 06:19.06 | DocScrutinizer | I always thought htop is indispensable |
| 06:19.15 | psycho_oreos | yeah its not a definitive way, but airmon-ng usually lists offending process, though I have yet to see how that really works. I bet its not for embedded setups |
| 06:19.25 | psycho_oreos | hmm |
| 06:19.36 | DocScrutinizer | but admittedly sometimes there's nothing that competes to ps |
| 06:21.02 | DocScrutinizer | to a real ps, not that messybox BS |
| 06:21.25 | psycho_oreos | its annoying that so far I've tried a few tools to pinpoint the culprit but so far I have not gotten anywhere closer |
| 06:22.11 | DocScrutinizer | what's the *exact* problem? |
| 06:23.22 | psycho_oreos | running kp50 with the latest CSSU (testing), I ran airodump-ng on wlan0 with lxp's drivers. airodump-ng keeps reporting interface wlan0 is down and after awhile the process aborts leaving a mess in the terminal |
| 06:23.39 | psycho_oreos | dmesg is littered with firmware booted, up and down repeatedly |
| 06:23.52 | DocScrutinizer | ouch |
| 06:24.37 | psycho_oreos | I've also even wrote a nasty while script (purely for the sake of testing) to constantly turn the interface up regardless of the state but it doesn't really help airodump-ng |
| 06:25.02 | DocScrutinizer | two possibilities come to mind: either wlan itself "segfaults" and gets reloaded, or ICD2 and peers does that |
| 06:25.08 | psycho_oreos | is certain that once the N900 is associated properly to a normal network (via managed mode) it will not disassociate itself |
| 06:25.12 | psycho_oreos | hmm |
| 06:26.15 | psycho_oreos | heh I tried killing wlancond, but admittedly if I tried to kill it at least twice the device would automatically reboot |
| 06:26.44 | psycho_oreos | tries the managed mode just for the sake of narrowing down the problem |
| 06:27.04 | DocScrutinizer | yes, there's been that "bug" that wlan xucks battery like mad while not associated. Nokia implemented a "fix" into (IIRC) ICD2 so it gets modprobe-r'd for long periods between scans for APs |
| 06:28.01 | DocScrutinizer | hey, when you kill processes started via dsme, you sure will get a reboot sometimes |
| 06:28.14 | DocScrutinizer | try "stop <processname>" |
| 06:28.27 | DocScrutinizer | rather than "killall <processname>" |
| 06:29.28 | psycho_oreos | interestingly enough the fix nokia did, does not affect the current status of interface constantly going up and down. I'm certain its somewhere along CSSU testing/kp is somehow causing the issue. I remember awhile back lxp released osso-wlan fix which may also be the culprit |
| 06:30.29 | psycho_oreos | yeah I did pkill, which would be similar to killall :) I'm going to try using the method you said after I try associating to wlan through normal way and seeing if that is not the issue |
| 06:30.31 | DocScrutinizer | if that's realy related to CSSU &/| KP, we definitely need a ticket and further joint effort investigations |
| 06:31.04 | psycho_oreos | not until I pinpoint the actual problem :) this is where I'm going to dive deeper myself first as the problem is quite complex actually |
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| 06:31.50 | DocScrutinizer | yep. thanks a lot for that attitude and for taking care |
| 06:32.48 | psycho_oreos | o.O *is a little puzzled at that remark* |
| 06:33.03 | DocScrutinizer | you *may* try entering airplane mode, then cranking up wlan "manually" |
| 06:33.36 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: why? that remark was a honest thanks and a bit of a compliment |
| 06:33.40 | psycho_oreos | ahh |
| 06:34.12 | psycho_oreos | I dunno, my caffeine dosage right now is on its `worn' state so I get a little skeptic :/ |
| 06:34.40 | psycho_oreos | thinks the need for more coffee is soon to be required |
| 06:34.40 | DocScrutinizer | hehe, I'm just about to refiill after wake from suspend |
| 06:35.35 | psycho_oreos | heh sometimes caffeine doesn't stack for me, but I might be able to stack it today.. who knows :D if not I'll just end up literally hitting the sack early |
| 06:36.26 | psycho_oreos | airmon-ng reports avahi as being a potential culprit. I'm sure that's a pretty standard process and mind you I hardly use airmon-ng at all, I never use it anywhere else |
| 06:36.52 | DocScrutinizer | I should run to get to daywork early, so I might leave a bit more early as well |
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| 06:37.15 | DocScrutinizer | AVAHI!!! GRRRR >:-( |
| 06:38.19 | psycho_oreos | that's a good idea actually :) if you can do that lol. I'm not a morning bird but to get work done first thing in the morning and out of the way is something that I highly value. |
| 06:38.24 | DocScrutinizer | runs ps|grep avahi |
| 06:39.35 | psycho_oreos | hehe now now I don't think avahi is really really that bad, I'm sure it exist in literally all default maemo setups but yeah I'm sure there's some other offending process somewhere... *leans slightly to strongly towards ICD2, mutters about stopping wlancond thinking that would probably be the cure* |
| 06:39.48 | DocScrutinizer | no avahi on my machines ;-) |
| 06:40.12 | DocScrutinizer | esp not on maemo |
| 06:40.35 | psycho_oreos | well avahi-daemon is the actual process name. You don't have it? did you remove it or you never had it? :| |
| 06:40.57 | DocScrutinizer | t900:~# ps aux|grep ava |
| 06:40.58 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.06 | psycho_oreos | sounds like you never had it |
| 06:41.11 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 06:41.24 | psycho_oreos | >:( *forces removal of avahi immediately* |
| 06:41.26 | DocScrutinizer | hotspot? |
| 06:43.06 | psycho_oreos | yeah that could a potential possibility but I hardly use that program anyway.. should it remove hotspot I wouldn't really care to be frank lol |
| 06:43.56 | DocScrutinizer | apt-cache search avahi |
| 06:44.19 | psycho_oreos | wtf.. http://pastebin.com/eEbZ97rA |
| 06:44.28 | psycho_oreos | it seems like there's a whole lot of deps |
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| 06:46.47 | DocScrutinizer | none of which I know who's depending on them |
| 06:47.26 | DocScrutinizer | maemo-pc-connectivity is a but :-S though, in that list |
| 06:47.29 | psycho_oreos | it seems like when trying to remove avahi-daemon, the packages to be removed was a whole bunch |
| 06:48.02 | DocScrutinizer | a bit* |
| 06:48.48 | psycho_oreos | anyhow I've aborted the idea of removing avahi-daemon, I was really close to removing it. I've instead stopped wlancond and retried airodump-ng again.. initally I stopped avahi-daemon now its wlancond |
| 06:49.11 | psycho_oreos | it seems like wlancond was the culprit, I've had no messages about wlan0 is turned off |
| 06:49.48 | DocScrutinizer | hmmhmmmhmmm |
| 06:50.20 | psycho_oreos | stops airodump-ng and starts avahi-daemon again |
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| 06:51.44 | psycho_oreos | 1 minute into airodump-ng with avahi-daemon and no messages about interface is down. Usually it was around 30 seconds or so mark |
| 06:51.56 | psycho_oreos | runs airodump-ng for a little longer just to make sure |
| 06:52.09 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # ls -l /usr/sbin/wlancond |
| 06:52.10 | DocScrutinizer | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 58292 Jan 17 22:47 /usr/sbin/wlancond |
| 06:52.31 | DocScrutinizer | IIRC I was guinea pig for that thing to test |
| 06:52.49 | DocScrutinizer | new CSSU might bring it per default |
| 06:52.49 | psycho_oreos | you also used airodump-ng to test? |
| 06:52.58 | DocScrutinizer | nope, not yet |
| 06:53.19 | psycho_oreos | ahh ok |
| 06:53.32 | psycho_oreos | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 58292 2012-01-18 07:47 /usr/sbin/wlancond |
| 06:53.54 | DocScrutinizer | anyway that's my t900 (very old KP, no CSSU): |
| 06:53.57 | DocScrutinizer | t900:~# ls -l /usr/sbin/wlancond |
| 06:53.59 | DocScrutinizer | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 60764 Jan 18 2010 /usr/sbin/wlancond |
| 06:54.48 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 06:54.57 | psycho_oreos | 3 minutes in, its definitely wlancond, by now with that wlancond on, airodump-ng would just quit and osso-xterm would just hang (but you can still close the window) |
| 06:55.00 | DocScrutinizer | so yu got the "fixed" version of CSSU |
| 06:55.15 | psycho_oreos | yeah, well its the latest one iinm I can check right now |
| 06:56.16 | psycho_oreos | 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1 <--- CSSU version |
| 06:56.18 | DocScrutinizer | pester merlin1991 about it ;-D |
| 06:56.40 | psycho_oreos | that's a bug with CSSU then? o.O *is surprised* |
| 06:56.52 | DocScrutinizer | not a "bug" |
| 06:57.08 | DocScrutinizer | we got that lxp bugFIX in wlancond |
| 06:57.18 | psycho_oreos | or whatever feature they added and now is causing this headache lol |
| 06:57.19 | psycho_oreos | ahh |
| 06:58.04 | DocScrutinizer | I only tested it for normal operation of device |
| 06:58.27 | DocScrutinizer | probably my notion of "normal" wasn't comprehensive |
| 06:58.37 | DocScrutinizer | should have tested airodump as well |
| 06:58.42 | psycho_oreos | yeah nothing wrong with normal operation in my case as well, I mean having it associated to an AP through managed mode |
| 06:59.10 | psycho_oreos | *nods* though its just a little weird how all of the sudden having it in monitor mode would be an issue |
| 06:59.54 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, /join #maemo-SSU, pester merlin1991 |
| 07:00.00 | psycho_oreos | goes and files info on bugzilla |
| 07:00.04 | psycho_oreos | heh I'm there :D |
| 07:01.10 | DocScrutinizer | I've not the time nor the background to dig into that right now, but it definitely needs close and immediate and in-depth investigation |
| 07:01.41 | psycho_oreos | *nods*, well I'll file it as something other than bug under cssu bugzilla :D |
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| 07:10.41 | MrPingu | I am on the new CSSU, what's exactly with wlancond - monitor mode - airodump? |
| 07:10.56 | MrPingu | I could do some test too ;) |
| 07:13.08 | psycho_oreos | monitor mode = RFMON mode, there's a good wikipedia article about it. airodump-ng (not airodump) is a tool part of aircrack-ng suite |
| 07:14.58 | MrPingu | I don't need the info about aircrack-ng and rfmon mode, but I want to know if I can reproduce your bug ;) |
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| 07:18.10 | szopin|afk | do you get that bug with airmon only? |
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| 07:19.06 | psycho_oreos | not airmon-ng, moreso with airodump-ng and aireplay-ng. Mind you I hardly use airmon-ng myself, almost never |
| 07:19.18 | szopin|afk | it used to bwe borked |
| 07:19.42 | szopin|afk | so setting up down, monitor, up was the way |
| 07:19.48 | szopin|afk | not sure if it works now |
| 07:19.53 | psycho_oreos | MrPingu, ahh well its easy, latest testing CSSU + aircrack-ng suite = issue |
| 07:20.02 | szopin|afk | I think it did at kp48 at least |
| 07:20.36 | psycho_oreos | heh I always use wlan0 interface, I never bothered with airmon-ng but if one uses airmon-ng, it would create a vif named mon0 |
| 07:20.37 | szopin|afk | but dump/replay always worked fine |
| 07:20.48 | szopin|afk | yeah |
| 07:20.54 | szopin|afk | useful in some cases |
| 07:21.18 | psycho_oreos | yeah it works fine with older kernels and what not.. It wasn't an issue with kp50 or so I thought but yeah its wlancond in CSSU-T |
| 07:21.36 | szopin|afk | hmmm strange estel didn't notice that |
| 07:21.37 | psycho_oreos | well if you're a wifi pentester, it's almost an absolute necessity |
| 07:22.09 | szopin|afk | he did complain about cleven/faircrack when they were not working with pre50 |
| 07:22.20 | MrPingu | I always use airmon-ng but sometimes mon0 will hang on the same channel as wlan0 if you connect through maemo |
| 07:22.29 | szopin|afk | so definitely was using monitor mode on 50 :/ |
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| 07:22.55 | MrPingu | let me test... brb |
| 07:22.55 | szopin|afk | none of those use airmon though |
| 07:24.14 | psycho_oreos | ahh yeah that thread, I skimmed through that as I was trying to look for ways to solve my own problem at the time. |
| 07:25.22 | psycho_oreos | mon0 shouldn't hang in theory but you cannot change the channel of mon0 as it would affect wlan0 as well |
| 07:25.44 | szopin|afk | saturn also mentions no problems if .ko's are copied but .sh's left, so another person with no such prob |
| 07:26.02 | szopin|afk | though whether they are in latest testing... probably |
| 07:26.41 | psycho_oreos | there was no .sh file with the latest lxp binary tarball. Plus I used that wlan switcher tool by ossipena (hopefully I got his handle right) |
| 07:27.19 | szopin|afk | .sh were used by cleven |
| 07:27.30 | szopin|afk | are* |
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| 07:27.43 | szopin|afk | saturn mentions they need to be left there and it supposedly works |
| 07:27.43 | psycho_oreos | ahh yes hence I would somewhat see the dependency |
| 07:28.13 | szopin|afk | but the fix for not seeing networks sounds much more likely culprit |
| 07:28.52 | szopin|afk | it does something like restarting wlan interface if I'm not mistaken |
| 07:29.02 | szopin|afk | maybe it misbehaves with latest |
| 07:29.32 | psycho_oreos | yeah I'm not sure, I never used cleven personally. I just like the idea of tapping away with me two thumbs :) |
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| 07:29.58 | szopin|afk | useful for war-walking |
| 07:30.09 | MrPingu | [ CH 12 ][ Elapsed: 3 mins ][ 2012-03-22 08:29 |
| 07:30.15 | MrPingu | seems to work? |
| 07:30.46 | psycho_oreos | you'll have to wait around 30 seconds |
| 07:30.51 | szopin|afk | MrPingu: do you use the fix for missing wlans? |
| 07:30.51 | psycho_oreos | hmm |
| 07:31.04 | psycho_oreos | well war-anything almost :) |
| 07:31.09 | szopin|afk | 3min<- |
| 07:31.15 | psycho_oreos | yeah I noticed that |
| 07:31.25 | MrPingu | Uhm I only use cssu + new compiled modules |
| 07:32.00 | MrPingu | never installed the ossowlan.deb that came with the drivers from the old package |
| 07:32.01 | psycho_oreos | cssu testing right? which version? |
| 07:32.18 | MrPingu | testing 2.1 + kp50 |
| 07:33.23 | psycho_oreos | interesting |
| 07:33.47 | psycho_oreos | then it sounds like something is making wlancond in my case turning wlan0 down |
| 07:34.04 | psycho_oreos | s/something/something else/ |
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| 07:35.17 | szopin|afk | try uninstalling the 'fix'? |
| 07:35.36 | psycho_oreos | lxp's fix? |
| 07:35.41 | szopin|afk | yeah |
| 07:35.53 | szopin|afk | unless you have a widget that does this |
| 07:36.10 | szopin|afk | not that many things left that could be interfering |
| 07:37.26 | psycho_oreos | well in #maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer and I discussed about this issue and he provided me the original wlancond (that's not modified by CSSU) and told me to try and run it. Well I did (after backing up the necessary file, copied it across, made it executable and rebooted), the problem still persist with the old wlancond |
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| 07:37.57 | psycho_oreos | old wlancond as in the one DocScrutinizer provided, so yeah |
| 07:38.12 | szopin|afk | lxp's fix only touches that? |
| 07:39.15 | psycho_oreos | is not aware if lxp has made other fixes |
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| 07:41.00 | MrPingu | I used this monitor on wlan0 FYI |
| 07:41.40 | MrPingu | normally I use on Mon0 but as you said you always used on wlan0, I did that this time ;) |
| 07:41.49 | MrPingu | Didn't test injection tho |
| 07:42.01 | psycho_oreos | not that using wlan0 or mon0 would actually matter, mon0 is just a vif |
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| 07:42.18 | psycho_oreos | injection won't be affected if airodump-ng in your case wasn't affected |
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| 07:42.55 | MrPingu | It's all a long time ago I played with wifipentesting |
| 07:43.14 | MrPingu | I try to learn metasploit nowadays :P |
| 07:43.28 | DocScrutinizer | jr@halley:~/Documents/OpenMoko> ls -l /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL/usr/sbin/wlancond |
| 07:43.29 | DocScrutinizer | -rwxr-xr-x 1 jr sbox 56412 2. Mär 2010 /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL/usr/sbin/wlancond |
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| 07:44.36 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, your original wlancond (the one with .bak extension, obviously renamed when I tried it out on mine) didn't fix the issue, I'm guessing its somewhere else that is causing wlancond to shut off wlan0 interface |
| 07:45.11 | DocScrutinizer | try .old, same location |
| 07:45.14 | DocScrutinizer | see ^^^ |
| 07:45.42 | DocScrutinizer | my .bak also is from last december |
| 07:45.53 | psycho_oreos | yeah I toyed with aircrack-ng tool because of kp50 and I wanted to make sure that monitor/injection still works |
| 07:45.54 | DocScrutinizer | not all sure about it |
| 07:45.55 | psycho_oreos | hmm |
| 07:47.49 | szopin|afk | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 57692 Jul 5 2010 wlancond |
| 07:47.58 | MrPingu | Ah, well I still have to do that test :P monitor is working fine =) |
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| 07:52.49 | psycho_oreos | heh I almost dug myself in, I did the test with the stock driver and that intercepted by wlancond, So after stopping wlancond and ran airodump-ng again on wlan0 (still with stock drivers) the problem disappeared. Now told to run the .old version I just realised I wasn't using bleeding edge drivers, so I repeated the test with bleeding edge drivers and yeah same result. So its definitely nothing to do with the drivers itself at all |
| 07:52.58 | psycho_oreos | now rebooting with wlancond (from wlancond.old) |
| 07:54.57 | MrPingu | have to go to school |
| 07:55.05 | MrPingu | see ya! Bye! |
| 07:55.20 | psycho_oreos | cya and thanks for testing! |
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| 07:55.59 | MrPingu | NP, I like to test simple things. Slowly building my knowledge... |
| 07:56.12 | szopin|afk | cya |
| 07:56.30 | psycho_oreos | indeed, a good way somewhat to start somewhere |
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| 07:57.54 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, nope still no dice with .old |
| 07:58.23 | psycho_oreos | its definitely pointing to some other process that is making wlancond shut off wlan0... hmpf |
| 07:59.24 | _freemangordon | psycho_oreos, do you have any of those "auto-disconnect","auto-switch" or whatever widgets installed? |
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| 07:59.42 | psycho_oreos | _freemangordon, yeah autodisconnect, I disabled that functionality |
| 08:00.04 | _freemangordon | and you're sure it behaves correctly? |
| 08:00.39 | _freemangordon | psycho_oreos ^^^ |
| 08:00.42 | psycho_oreos | well I could instantly remove that autodisconnect tool :) though I've never ran into this issue before |
| 08:00.50 | szopin|afk | remove/purge/nuke from orbit just to be sure? |
| 08:01.04 | _freemangordon | well, I just guessing what could be the reason ;) |
| 08:01.19 | _freemangordon | *I am |
| 08:01.28 | psycho_oreos | O |
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| 08:01.35 | _freemangordon | is low on caffeine |
| 08:01.45 | psycho_oreos | I'm curious to see if I can solve it without having to kill wlancond everytime as well :) |
| 08:02.29 | _freemangordon | psycho_oreos, you can start dbus-monitor, to check who is calling wlancond through d-bus |
| 08:02.49 | psycho_oreos | there's some process that is trying to access network/internet, every so often I get that usual ICD dialogue box coming up when I'm not connected to network/internet. I disabled modest functionality in autochecking so I'm guessing it could be some program that is trying to phone home or some crap |
| 08:03.06 | psycho_oreos | _freemangordon, good idea, I'll try that |
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| 08:14.03 | psycho_oreos | _freemangordon, according to dbus-monitor --system, it's reporting mostly icd and icd2 is causing the issue |
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| 08:15.25 | psycho_oreos | every four to five times dbus-monitor reports icd && icd2 activity, there seems to be a new entry into dmesg in regards to wl1251 unloaded, and loaded |
| 08:15.50 | psycho_oreos | and about 5 or so minutes I get the select connection dialog box |
| 08:16.50 | szopin|afk | install wireshark, connect, check where it is connecting, what it is sending/pulling |
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| 08:23.07 | psycho_oreos | yeah I did something similar to that with little success |
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| 08:23.21 | szopin|afk | no packets caught? |
| 08:24.10 | psycho_oreos | the question was exactly which interface to capture on, I initially tried wlan0 and there was nothing, not even on phonet |
| 08:24.27 | DocScrutinizer | unlikely |
| 08:24.46 | szopin|afk | maybe constant up/down interferes |
| 08:24.50 | szopin|afk | try mitm |
| 08:24.57 | DocScrutinizer | well, of course there won't be anything until you actually up the IF ;) |
| 08:25.01 | szopin|afk | catch all inbetween N900 and router |
| 08:25.09 | szopin|afk | no probs with interface this way |
| 08:25.54 | psycho_oreos | I meant when I did that before, I used tcpdump and I did not have any default gw set nor was icd hooked on any connection |
| 08:26.46 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: a simple change in your user internet config settings may help. Just don't allow to connect on request, not even with asking |
| 08:26.50 | psycho_oreos | though needless to say as soon as I connected up ppp0 (3/3.5G mode) lots of stuff were going in and out |
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| 08:27.40 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, yeah I did set that to always ask :) I even checked that not long ago because I thought somehow either I turned it to scan automatically or somewhere it was re-enabled. Though that wasn't the case |
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| 08:28.00 | psycho_oreos | I can't really find the option to not ask, if I could that would be nice :D |
| 08:28.05 | szopin|afk | not even asking <- |
| 08:28.08 | psycho_oreos | yeah |
| 08:28.10 | DocScrutinizer | disable "connect to wlan when available" |
| 08:28.28 | psycho_oreos | its on "always ask" but the dialog box still appears :) |
| 08:28.55 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, you cut out the hole and there's still a hole? |
| 08:28.57 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
| 08:29.26 | szopin|afk | there is no option Don't ask |
| 08:29.36 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
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| 08:29.49 | psycho_oreos | I meant under connect automatically heh |
| 08:29.50 | psycho_oreos | my bad |
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| 08:30.07 | szopin|afk | use wlan and never |
| 08:30.08 | psycho_oreos | connect automatically: always ask <-- the rest of the options are greyed out evidently |
| 08:30.14 | psycho_oreos | hmm ok |
| 08:30.28 | szopin|afk | as search interval and don't check that box |
| 08:31.08 | szopin|afk | but still, would be nice to dump what is going on after connect |
| 08:31.08 | psycho_oreos | well if search interval is never, the option to check that box is also inherently greyed out |
| 08:31.23 | szopin|afk | yeah :) |
| 08:31.30 | szopin|afk | makes sense |
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| 08:32.23 | DocScrutinizer | "search" means ICD2 is cranking up wlan to do a scan |
| 08:32.31 | DocScrutinizer | every N minutes |
| 08:33.11 | DocScrutinizer | automatic connect means it's trying to connect when sth asking for internet |
| 08:33.47 | psycho_oreos | ah ha.. and here comes the answer to the clue being the user is the error lol |
| 08:34.41 | psycho_oreos | still I see dbus activities with icd and icd2 fiddling with various interfaces even though it already has a connection |
| 08:34.54 | DocScrutinizer | it's always PEBKAC ;-) |
| 08:35.54 | psycho_oreos | nope there's still wl1251 being booted and unloaded in dmesg |
| 08:36.09 | psycho_oreos | hmm what if I set to say Any connection but never scan? |
| 08:36.32 | DocScrutinizer | you NEED "never scan" |
| 08:36.55 | DocScrutinizer | you also need unchecked "use wlan if available" |
| 08:37.15 | DocScrutinizer | though that'S prolly greyed out when "never scan" |
| 08:37.41 | psycho_oreos | that was done, even on WLAN it still has dmesg showing booting and unloaded. I did that as well (momentarily set search interval to 5 minutes and unchecked that box, and set search interval to never) |
| 08:37.45 | psycho_oreos | yeah |
| 08:38.09 | DocScrutinizer | "automatic connect:" GPRS only |
| 08:38.38 | DocScrutinizer | do NOT use "any" or "always ask" |
| 08:39.07 | DocScrutinizer | uncheck "connect to WLAN if available" too |
| 08:39.13 | psycho_oreos | I just set it to my usual 3G/3.5G connection, pretty sure there will still be new messages in dmesg in regards to wl1251 |
| 08:39.24 | DocScrutinizer | "search interval:" never |
| 08:39.27 | psycho_oreos | yup all that is done |
| 08:40.04 | DocScrutinizer | now just make sure no friggin auto-disconnect app is bypassing those settings |
| 08:40.07 | psycho_oreos | and... there's still new messages in dmesg stating wl1251 being booted and unloaded |
| 08:40.29 | psycho_oreos | thinks of just removing auto-disconnect just for the sake of testing |
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| 08:41.06 | DocScrutinizer | auto-disconnect is messing up system so terribly and thoroughly, I dunno if you ever can uninstall it |
| 08:41.36 | psycho_oreos | ugh |
| 08:41.56 | DocScrutinizer | I never looked into it, but there've been several user reports that the system was in bogus state with auto-disconnect, and only a reflash recovered |
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| 08:42.48 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
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| 10:00.31 | peetah | MohammadAG: does open media player support replaygain tags, more specifically for vorbis files ? |
| 10:01.05 | peetah | I grepped the sources for REPLAY, but did not find any occurence |
| 10:02.26 | peetah | I wondered if it has support for it through gstreamer or not at all |
| 10:03.48 | MohammadAG | peetah: OMP uses mafw as a backend |
| 10:04.00 | MohammadAG | And I'm not sure that even supports replaingain |
| 10:04.07 | MohammadAG | Replaygain |
| 10:04.33 | MohammadAG | If its possible with gatreamer patching mafw to include the changes should be possible |
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| 10:06.07 | peetah | ok thanks |
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| 11:30.37 | Khertan | Ouch just discover that there are good fake n900 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xd7IVCV3Jg&feature=related |
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| 11:53.01 | x29a | Khertan: i wonna see the firmware on it! |
| 11:54.09 | flat` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5BdyIGtYcg |
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| 12:15.45 | a-nightfury | hi I upgraded recently to the new release of power kernel 2.6.28.10-power50 and now cleven is telling me that the kernel is not compatible I've checked for a new update for cleven but there wasn't any ..... any idea what i should do |
| 12:18.22 | dhbiker | it only says it might not work properly |
| 12:18.41 | dhbiker | as far as i can see |
| 12:18.43 | dhbiker | works for me |
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| 12:20.46 | a-nightfury | dhbiker let mecheck on this one |
| 12:21.20 | a-nightfury | dhbiker, but why would it say it might not work properly while it is |
| 12:22.30 | dhbiker | it only says that it did not find a known compatible kernel... |
| 12:22.42 | a-nightfury | dhbiker, are you able to enable monitor mode |
| 12:22.47 | dhbiker | yes |
| 12:22.57 | a-nightfury | dhbiker, i can't |
| 12:23.06 | dhbiker | download the newer drivers |
| 12:23.52 | a-nightfury | what drivers I already checked twice for updates and none is found |
| 12:24.47 | dhbiker | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=057f7ba199a3bca52c2c69c31c08c5ae&t=83118 |
| 12:24.53 | dhbiker | read this thread carfully |
| 12:24.58 | dhbiker | carefully |
| 12:25.12 | dhbiker | there is a link to injection drivers |
| 12:25.24 | a-nightfury | dhbiker, ok i will |
| 12:31.43 | int_ua | Pali: ping |
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| 12:38.38 | a-nightfury | dhbiker, that's one big file |
| 12:43.48 | int_ua | Pali: ping |
| 12:44.01 | Pali | int_ua: pong |
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| 12:44.21 | int_ua | Pali: Looks like there is a limit of 2 Mb for uImage on N900. Is that true? |
| 12:44.31 | Pali | yes |
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| 12:44.44 | Pali | oh, it is smaller |
| 12:44.52 | Pali | 2MB is nand kernel parition |
| 12:45.19 | Pali | so u-boot + kernel must be smaller then 2MB |
| 12:45.25 | int_ua | Pali: But isn't U-Boot loading kernels from RAM? |
| 12:45.47 | Pali | yes, U-Boot is starting kernel from RAM |
| 12:45.56 | Pali | but kernel must be loaded to RAM first :D |
| 12:46.20 | Pali | so kernel is stored after u-boot in kernel nand parition |
| 12:46.24 | int_ua | Pali: I'm talking about kernel on mmc, not combined with U-Boot |
| 12:46.53 | Pali | about kernel on mmc, I do not know if there is limit |
| 12:46.59 | Pali | it depens on u-boot |
| 12:47.09 | Pali | but it is not good idea to have big kernel image |
| 12:47.46 | int_ua | Pali: Ubuntu stock kernel is 3.6Mb, it doesn't look like very big :) |
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| 12:47.54 | Pali | now I see that rx51 board code thinks that uImage will not be bigger 2MB |
| 12:47.55 | int_ua | Pali: Is it? |
| 12:48.18 | Pali | so if uImage will be bigger it can rewrite something in RAM (e.g u-boot itself |
| 12:48.41 | int_ua | Pali: So theoretically it can be changed for loading bigger kernels? |
| 12:48.53 | Pali | yes |
| 12:49.17 | Pali | via env :-) |
| 12:49.32 | Pali | in env kernaddr is stored address where will be kernel loaded |
| 12:49.32 | dhbiker | bows to Pali |
| 12:49.43 | int_ua | Pali: wow, even without patching? |
| 12:49.56 | Pali | same for env initrdaddr and scriptaddr |
| 12:49.57 | int_ua | Pali: isn't it the start of image? |
| 12:50.49 | Pali | if you use "run kernload" it will load kernel image to address specified in kernaddr |
| 12:51.48 | int_ua | Pali: Do you mean that initrdaddr=kernaddr+2Mb? |
| 12:52.15 | Pali | default values: kernaddr=0x82008000 initrdaddr=0x84008000 scriptaddr=0x86008000 |
| 12:52.38 | Pali | so if you have both kernel and initfs, kernel must not be bigger then 2MB |
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| 12:54.16 | Pali | int_ua, so yes |
| 12:54.53 | Pali | scriptaddr is address where will be loaded u-boot script (e.g. boot.src) if is used |
| 13:05.54 | int_ua | Pali: I'm a little bit puzzled. 2Mb is 0x200000, right? And the difference between kernaddr and initrdaddr is 0x2000000, on one zero more, 32Mb, is it? |
| 13:06.31 | Pali | wait, I will check zeros in configs :D |
| 13:09.09 | Pali | int_ua, you are right, there is really one more zero |
| 13:09.24 | Pali | so memory limit 32MB (instead 2MB) |
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| 13:23.52 | rlinfati | Hi, how i can contact the repository admin of extras devel ? some file has incorrect size/md5/sha1/sha256 in the Packages file . |
| 13:24.05 | Hurrian | ping X-Fade |
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| 13:27.13 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 13:27.24 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'qronic: just tap star twice'. |
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| 21:23.11 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ -- N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | RECENT UPDATE: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79400 || CSSU-Stable available: get it via links in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 *now*! |
| 21:23.12 | *** mode/#maemo [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 21:24.16 | nox- | FIQ, DocScrutinizer once said those backup batteries only last for about a year... |
| 21:24.25 | FIQ | if that's the cause, I'll have to use my calculator as a portable source for checking the time I guess |
| 21:24.31 | FIQ | Yes, and I have no plans on buying a new |
| 21:24.33 | SpeedEvil | ntpd |
| 21:24.38 | FIQ | oh |
| 21:24.40 | FIQ | ntpd works |
| 21:25.02 | SpeedEvil | Assuming you have some net, of course. |
| 21:25.06 | FIQ | yeah |
| 21:25.10 | FIQ | hm |
| 21:25.47 | FIQ | my USB port is broken, and as N900 product line has ended far ago, and that problem is (pretty much?) impossible to fix, I'll stick to an external battery |
| 21:26.00 | FIQ | too bad if i end myself in a "you need to reflash" situation.. :p |
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| 21:26.28 | SpeedEvil | You can reflash - if you install a bootloader, and do it from meego |
| 21:26.43 | FIQ | Hm, that works I suppose |
| 21:26.44 | SpeedEvil | Or something else booted from SD |
| 21:26.50 | FIQ | yes |
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| 21:27.34 | FIQ | I once had a fully working archlinux setup (just for fun), and still think I have.. but the problem is the bootloader |
| 21:27.39 | FIQ | uboot works fine, but.. |
| 21:27.57 | FIQ | I don't really want to compile it from source to get it to work with powerkernel |
| 21:28.48 | FIQ | especially since the one time I tried to install Maemo SDK, i got a load of interesting bugs here and there... |
| 21:29.22 | HRH_H_Crab | i need to install rtcom-accounts-voip-support |
| 21:29.36 | HRH_H_Crab | i think i broke something and now i cant find it... |
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| 23:50.52 | szopeen | hmmm |
| 23:51.13 | szopeen | forcing newer qemu got ubuntu in a strange state |
| 23:51.45 | szopeen | -f install wants to remove 942mb |
| 23:52.24 | mgedmin | --force is rarely the right thing to do |
| 23:52.31 | szopeen | yeah |
| 23:53.09 | szopeen | update manager offer partial update and just hangs for a couple of hours |
| 23:53.57 | mgedmin | and what does apt-get dist-upgrade offer you? |
| 23:53.58 | szopeen | wish reflash of ubuntu took minutes like maemo |
| 23:54.06 | mgedmin | heh |
| 23:55.06 | szopeen | try using -f |
| 23:55.28 | mgedmin | all this just from a new qemu? |
| 23:55.54 | szopeen | couple of debs of newer versions |
| 23:56.20 | szopeen | but got tired after 5th or so |
| 23:56.33 | szopeen | was hoping it would be a couple |
| 23:57.03 | szopeen | qemucommon, kvm, libgnutls, libpulse, libtinfo |
| 23:57.41 | szopeen | guess installing proper versions of those might fix it |
| 23:57.52 | mgedmin | ought to |
| 23:57.56 | szopeen | still all versions were oneiric |
| 23:58.09 | szopeen | didn't expect that much of a prob |
| 23:58.18 | mgedmin | and the base distro is what? |
| 23:58.24 | szopeen | 11.1p |
| 23:58.27 | szopeen | 0* |
| 23:58.38 | szopeen | or maybe I need to enable devel of some kind |
| 23:58.49 | mgedmin | are you saying you force-installed oneiric packages onto an oneiric system and that broke everything?? |
| 23:59.01 | szopeen | seems like it |
| 23:59.13 | szopeen | might be just missing devel(ish) repo |
| 23:59.25 | szopeen | so cries not found for latest versions |
| 23:59.35 | szopeen | not sure how buntu handles that |