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| 07:17.29 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: moo |
| 07:18.20 | DocScrutinizer | quite worth a read: http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/3/19/ifixit-s-kyle-wiens-on-how-to-dismantle-the-war-on-diy-electronics -- especially for Nokia, though I guess it's already too late for them |
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| 07:20.32 | DocScrutinizer | still wonders whom to contact about legal obligations of manufacturers to offer proper service and spare parts for expensive electronic devices, for a time span that's reasonably longer than even just the warranty period |
| 07:21.35 | ruskie | various consumer protection agencies and stuff |
| 07:21.42 | ruskie | to get such legislation rolling |
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| 07:31.24 | DocScrutinizer | I think there already is sufficient legislation |
| 07:31.35 | DocScrutinizer | just needs someone to enforce it |
| 07:38.39 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia might quite likely want to source components and produce another 2000 N900 for 2Mio, when the alternative whatever it is costs them way more |
| 07:40.05 | DocScrutinizer | to make the alternative expensive for them, it needs action from their customers |
| 07:41.05 | DocScrutinizer | first and foremost: insist on a original replacement/repair instead of a crappy e7/whatever swap offer, whenever your device breaks during warranty |
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| 07:42.28 | Crooks_mobile | id gladly take a 950 as a swap |
| 07:42.35 | DocScrutinizer | waves and heads out for dong the slave ;-D |
| 07:43.01 | DocScrutinizer | Crooks_mobile: me not, but well that's a matter of personal preferences |
| 07:43.27 | Crooks_mobile | i can buy anothe 900 but i cant buy a 950 |
| 07:43.34 | DocScrutinizer | N950 has a crappy kbd and a unbearable capacitive touchscreen |
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| 09:25.46 | Raimu | Nonsequitur: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/d30ae1c692ff53c3?pli=1 |
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| 18:43.22 | Sicelo | maybe it's late news, but http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=linux-and-android-together-at-last-2012-03 |
| 18:43.41 | rlinfati | Hi, how i can check if my libflashplayer is using hw o sw render ? |
| 18:45.28 | shanttu | hi. i just updated cssu testing. neither does this or previous version let me connect to internet at all. connectnow-widgets doesn't do anything and when i try from status-menu it doesn't even open the "select connection" menu |
| 18:45.49 | Sicelo | rlinfati: iirc it uses hw |
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| 18:46.12 | rlinfati | Sicelo, i'm not using the stock version.... |
| 18:46.13 | Sicelo | shanttu: i doubt it's really caused by cssu |
| 18:46.29 | Sicelo | but you can also ask at #maemo-ssu |
| 18:46.45 | shanttu | Sicelo, immediately after i restore a backup it works |
| 18:47.06 | shanttu | backup which was made a minute before |
| 18:47.16 | shanttu | i'll ask there, thanks |
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| 18:55.52 | Timmy__ | what's up with irreco? database doesn't work |
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| 19:11.52 | dhbiker | Timmy__: i use Pierogi instead of irreco |
| 19:18.56 | Timmy__ | dhbiker: this app doesn't support our TV, how can i solve this problem? |
| 19:19.15 | dhbiker | you can try to select the keyset |
| 19:19.43 | Timmy__ | the tv is not defined in the keysets |
| 19:19.53 | dhbiker | well the brand is |
| 19:19.56 | dhbiker | till now |
| 19:20.00 | dhbiker | it worked for me |
| 19:20.02 | dhbiker | everytime |
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| 19:20.59 | Timmy__ | it's a LG 42pq10r. i want to know how can i make one by myself |
| 19:21.17 | dhbiker | hmmz |
| 19:21.22 | dhbiker | i dont know the dev |
| 19:21.39 | dhbiker | so no clue :/ |
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| 21:29.36 | szopeen | evenin |
| 21:30.11 | szopeen | does anybody know if BM and Uboot clash? |
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| 21:31.25 | szopeen | want to try nemo and ubuntu 12.04 as just got my sd card, but as usual in new toy can't be arsed to read up 400 posts |
| 21:31.40 | szopeen | want it now :( |
| 21:32.10 | szopeen | should I uninstall backupmenu before installing pali's uboot? |
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| 21:41.10 | szopeen | oops, kernel power conflicts for starters... |
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| 21:57.44 | szopeen | hmm, anyway to get rid of kp50? |
| 21:57.59 | szopeen | nokia kernel icon didn't do the trick |
| 21:58.10 | szopeen | HAM still complains about kernel-power |
| 21:58.15 | szopeen | 2 reboots done |
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| 22:05.07 | szopeen | wow sudo apt-get -purge kernel-power* went better than expected... |
| 22:05.36 | sicelo_ | O.o |
| 22:05.56 | szopeen | yeah, fingers crossed for reboot :) |
| 22:06.10 | sicelo_ | you're brave, lol. why didnmt you use the provided 'app'? |
| 22:06.31 | sicelo_ | s/nmt/n't/ |
| 22:06.48 | szopeen | like I said 'Nokia kernel' app didn't remove it fully (prolly as installed using dpkg before it was on devel) |
| 22:07.11 | szopeen | as uboot conflicted had to do something |
| 22:07.22 | sicelo_ | ah.. i wasnmt joined on chan when u said that :) |
| 22:07.23 | szopeen | didn't get many proposals, lets boot and see |
| 22:07.38 | szopeen | penguin is there |
| 22:07.51 | sicelo_ | :) |
| 22:08.01 | szopeen | boots fine so far... |
| 22:08.05 | szopeen | hands connected |
| 22:08.06 | sicelo_ | using Pali's uboot? |
| 22:08.10 | szopeen | love nokia! |
| 22:08.13 | szopeen | yup |
| 22:08.23 | szopeen | seems to not conflict with backupmenu |
| 22:08.30 | szopeen | boot succesfull |
| 22:08.39 | szopeen | ssful* |
| 22:09.01 | szopeen | now for nemo |
| 22:10.03 | szopeen | unless opening kbd screws uboot |
| 22:10.15 | szopeen | :/ gonna go with the flow |
| 22:10.31 | sicelo_ | it shouldn't, aiui |
| 22:11.14 | sicelo_ | loads kernel using flasher for now -- will go on to u-boot soon :) |
| 22:11.46 | szopeen | guys with ubuntu 12.04 seem to have best results with it |
| 22:12.08 | sicelo_ | with what? flasher? |
| 22:12.13 | szopeen | was planning multi for nit, but those are more interesting for me |
| 22:12.20 | szopeen | at least for now |
| 22:12.37 | szopeen | getting 12.04 kernel working with fremantle is the goal |
| 22:12.49 | sicelo_ | ah :) |
| 22:12.55 | szopeen | or meego, or any other that would allow updating of glib/libc |
| 22:13.11 | szopeen | droid apps can wait I guess |
| 22:13.17 | sicelo_ | nemo has 2.6.37 kernel |
| 22:13.28 | sicelo_ | Linux fremantle 2.6.37-10.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N900-adaptation-n900 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jan 23 11:48:19 UTC 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 22:13.34 | szopeen | until angrybirds space come out |
| 22:13.34 | sicelo_ | :P |
| 22:13.41 | szopeen | nit will be a must then |
| 22:13.54 | szopeen | shit this game is addictive as hell |
| 22:14.23 | szopeen | yeah, meego got .35 |
| 22:14.24 | sicelo_ | guess i'' not made for it - deleted it a week ago |
| 22:15.17 | szopeen | with .37 we should be back if this doesn't introduce backwards incompatibility with crit components |
| 22:15.30 | sicelo_ | so, is nemo booting fine? |
| 22:15.39 | szopeen | if it does, ofono is our only hope |
| 22:15.50 | szopeen | gonna try it right now |
| 22:15.57 | szopeen | will report back |
| 22:16.17 | szopeen | got a decent random rw card, hope it is usable speed |
| 22:16.20 | sicelo_ | right now i'm running debian on this n900, with nemo's kernel and modules |
| 22:16.32 | sicelo_ | gprs works with ofono ;) |
| 22:16.44 | sicelo_ | i'm thusly connected atm |
| 22:16.48 | szopeen | heard calls also 'might' |
| 22:17.03 | BCMM | sicelo_: does it do phone calls? |
| 22:17.06 | szopeen | but unconfirmed on ubuntu/n900 site |
| 22:17.26 | szopeen | needs retesting, hope I can manage this and confirm/deny |
| 22:17.43 | szopeen | nit is a dark alley it would seem in that regard |
| 22:17.47 | sicelo_ | i didn't test well enough so far.. i'm more an internet person |
| 22:17.59 | szopeen | maybe with 3.3(4) it would start working??? |
| 22:18.12 | sicelo_ | nop.. not so far |
| 22:18.19 | szopeen | they finally upstreamed it seems |
| 22:18.27 | sicelo_ | ssi interface still not implemented |
| 22:18.35 | szopeen | :/ |
| 22:18.48 | sicelo_ | http://elinux.org/N900/ |
| 22:20.03 | sicelo_ | http://elinux.org/N900 |
| 22:21.26 | sicelo_ | Linus is busy with Android these days, lol |
| 22:23.19 | sicelo_ | i'm going to give Nemo a try one of these days :/ |
| 22:23.35 | NIN101 | calls do work with the nemo kernel, (obviously). I also played around on debian with ofono with it, and got calls working, but audio routing didn't work As calls cost me money, I simply have no motivation to play around too much with them so... |
| 22:23.54 | szopeen | call support? |
| 22:24.00 | szopeen | should be free |
| 22:24.08 | szopeen | if they hear you = works! |
| 22:24.22 | szopeen | complain about audio quality if they do :P |
| 22:24.28 | NIN101 | eh, what? |
| 22:24.32 | szopeen | ask them to confirm |
| 22:24.41 | szopeen | full test performed for 0$ |
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| 22:26.23 | NIN101 | anyway, night. |
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| 22:48.57 | szopeen | dd finished (on mass storage) with cover closed and sd in place still booted fremantle |
| 22:49.06 | szopeen | any clues? |
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| 22:52.19 | szopeen | don't tell me 11.04 can't read this card??? |
| 22:52.56 | szopeen | it looks like it, standard card inserted insta choose action dialog, this with adapter no response |
| 22:52.59 | szopeen | oh ffs |
| 22:53.26 | szopeen | so it's this or scratchbox lol |
| 22:54.29 | szopeen | ok, no rw BM mode with uboot |
| 22:55.01 | szopeen | maybe from another device... |
| 22:55.11 | szopeen | cya later |
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| 23:03.21 | szopim | would having /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1 indicate having 2 partitions? this would explain fremantle boot |
| 23:04.01 | szopim | going now through dd with backupmenu rw mode |
| 23:04.16 | szopim | but it might be useless if that is the case |
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| 23:08.46 | szopim | wow, samsung got partitioning 4mb/rest from start |
| 23:10.50 | szopim | wait, does nemo/ubuntu etc boot from fat or ext? |
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| 23:49.12 | szopim | fuck it boots |
| 23:49.43 | szopim | wow nemo runs quite smoothly |
| 23:49.51 | szopim | need to try with sim |
| 23:49.56 | szopim | next step ubuntu# |
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