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| 16:11.27 | lardman | afternoon chaps, slightly OT but anyone know an easy way of extracting a listing of defined functions from a bunch of C files? |
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| 16:31.39 | RST38h | "iPhone stroking keeps us satisfied the most, say fanbois" |
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| 16:42.54 | javispedro | moo RST38h |
| 16:43.14 | RST38h | mooo javispedro, how are things tonight? |
| 16:43.48 | javispedro | finely fine |
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| 16:45.25 | javispedro | again played with a demo galaxy note... they're surely doing a heavy marketing job |
| 16:45.29 | RST38h | ah... |
| 16:45.32 | javispedro | also found out the thing has barometer |
| 16:45.43 | RST38h | yes, they advertised this feature to geeks |
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| 16:45.51 | RST38h | same goes for the ics devices |
| 16:46.30 | javispedro | sadly I still dislike the software very much and it is pricey... |
| 16:46.37 | freemangordon | X-Fade ping |
| 16:46.44 | RST38h | it is heavily subsudized in the US |
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| 16:57.57 | lardman | javispedro: barometer, interesting |
| 16:58.32 | lardman | javispedro: it's Mali iirc, should be a simple port for Mer/etc |
| 16:58.53 | javispedro | and the android stupid buttons are nearly invisible when not lit :) |
| 16:59.06 | lardman | well that can be changed in sw ;) |
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| 16:59.13 | javispedro | :nod: |
| 16:59.15 | lardman | I'm not sold on the size |
| 16:59.21 | javispedro | oh, I am... |
| 16:59.35 | javispedro | albeit it seems kinda fragile, and considering the price.. |
| 16:59.35 | lardman | really? Would you carry that around? |
| 16:59.54 | javispedro | it fits :) |
| 16:59.54 | lardman | I guess it's small enough to make that possible - my Galaxy Tab is too large for a pocket |
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| 17:03.33 | lardman | wonders how much Vodafone paid for the SW likenesses? http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/index.htm |
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| 17:06.07 | lardman | ouch, certainly expensive |
| 17:09.45 | lardman | anyone know what SUPPORT_SID_INTERFACE is? |
| 17:09.53 | RST38h | javispedro: does not feel fragile to me |
| 17:10.03 | RST38h | javispedro: and does fit the pocket |
| 17:10.12 | RST38h | the platform is...well..meh |
| 17:10.14 | javispedro | it fits, I did try |
| 17:10.14 | lardman | hi RST38h |
| 17:10.21 | RST38h | moos at lardman evilly |
| 17:10.30 | lardman | javispedro: the security guard got you then? ;) |
| 17:11.00 | javispedro | I'd wish I had get away with one :) |
| 17:11.34 | RST38h | you can make yourself buy it by reasoning that you are going to put Meego on it =) |
| 17:11.42 | javispedro | oh, I am totally thinking that |
| 17:11.45 | javispedro | or even webos |
| 17:11.49 | RST38h | or maemo |
| 17:11.53 | RST38h | or...khe khe...iOS |
| 17:12.01 | lardman | Should be an easy Plasma port once the open Mali driver is working |
| 17:12.14 | javispedro | but it is still pricey |
| 17:12.19 | lardman | yeah |
| 17:12.27 | RST38h | ah, screw pricey, you are going to use it for 1-2 years |
| 17:12.41 | RST38h | not that pricey when you consider the usage time |
| 17:12.53 | javispedro | unsure |
| 17:13.11 | lardman | imagines RST38h as a small red figure with horns sitting on javispedro's shoulder whispering in his ear.... "buy!, buy! buy!" |
| 17:13.24 | javispedro | back when Palm devices costed half than that it was clear to me they would last 3, 4 or even 5 years |
| 17:13.30 | javispedro | and they did |
| 17:13.51 | javispedro | looks at nearly 10 year old m130 |
| 17:14.12 | RST38h | "angels we have heeeeaaard on high / tell us GO OUT AND BUY!" |
| 17:14.39 | javispedro | never paid more than 300eur. for a phone actually =) |
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| 17:15.52 | RST38h | $610 for Note according to Google |
| 17:16.20 | RST38h | $575even |
| 17:16.35 | RST38h | kinda higher than usual, but not overly expensive |
| 17:16.49 | javispedro | maybe they have a dev program =) |
| 17:17.07 | RST38h | who?samsung? ahhahaha |
| 17:18.01 | lardman | hmm, they release some code, but don't bother to answer questions in their "opensource community forum" |
| 17:18.25 | RST38h | it is like asking if an anthill has its own dev program |
| 17:18.26 | javispedro | they did ship some devices to certain cm8 devs |
| 17:18.40 | RST38h | you get bonus points by asking the ants, too |
| 17:22.43 | hanning | just read about tizen, and huawei being involved now. what do you think, any chances we might see something like the n900 from huawei using tizen? |
| 17:23.01 | hanning | looking at ios and android frightens me when i think about my n900 breaking |
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| 17:23.57 | lardman | has Tizen moved forward at all? |
| 17:24.05 | javispedro | btw, http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Maemo_Base_Port |
| 17:24.11 | javispedro | don't remember when that stuff was written |
| 17:24.27 | hanning | i think SDK was releases in january lardman |
| 17:24.47 | lardman | hanning: oh right, cool |
| 17:25.05 | lardman | javispedro: interesting |
| 17:25.06 | javispedro | tizen seemingly has a hardtime capturing attention, e.g. the re-posted call for papers for the conference |
| 17:25.34 | lardman | has been buried in work since the start of the year |
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| 17:27.27 | lardman | ah the delights of comparing driver code to determine what to port across |
| 17:27.39 | lardman | or rather what needs to be ported across |
| 17:29.01 | lardman | I wish I knew Perl at this point |
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| 17:34.31 | RST38h | hanning: Chance? Zero chance. |
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| 17:37.34 | hanning | don't say that :( |
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| 17:47.14 | Pali | ping X-Fade |
| 17:47.20 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 17:47.31 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'qronic: just tap star twice'. |
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| 18:47.39 | Dynamit | Hello |
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| 18:58.51 | hhhhhh | hi |
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| 19:06.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | who wants the 3rd reincarnation of an OS that has records to die prematurely to get replaced by next interation which again will get cancelled for another brainfsck which.... |
| 19:06.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | aka tizen |
| 19:06.36 | x29a | loel |
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| 19:13.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | Nokia couldbe bold today if only they had stayed with maemo rather than this meego red herring |
| 19:15.22 | RST38h | harmattan IS maemo |
| 19:15.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh |
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| 19:17.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | harmattan is maemo*0.75 modulo 500% wsted time for crap and useless paradigm changes |
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| 19:19.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | what a waste of manpower of really smart devels |
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| 19:31.19 | LinuxCode | hi again all, I trimmed the connector, now the yubikey stays lit |
| 19:31.31 | LinuxCode | now I just have to figure out which kmod it requires or which udev rules |
| 19:31.37 | LinuxCode | because atm it just flashes |
| 19:33.39 | LinuxCode | omg it works |
| 19:33.55 | LinuxCode | needed low speed host mode |
| 19:34.26 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 19:48.06 | LinuxCode | should in theory also mean the opengpg crypto key stick should work |
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| 20:11.41 | LinuxCode | what is the max milliampage the bus can provide ? |
| 20:11.50 | LinuxCode | 100ma pushing it ? |
| 20:12.03 | LinuxCode | yubikey is 30ma |
| 20:12.19 | jacekowski | usb on n900? |
| 20:12.38 | jacekowski | 200mA |
| 20:12.38 | LinuxCode | yeah |
| 20:12.38 | LinuxCode | cool |
| 20:12.38 | LinuxCode | so in theory even a usb smart card reader should work haha |
| 20:12.42 | LinuxCode | brilliant |
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| 20:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | thanks :-) |
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| 21:23.40 | ketas | hah, usb smart card reader |
| 21:24.04 | ketas | but yea, why not |
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| 22:02.14 | sszopin | 26h later, fsck didn't stop |
| 22:02.51 | sszopin | btw, what happens when you h-e-n two N900s? |
| 22:03.32 | sszopin | which one asks client (mounting emmc etc)? |
| 22:04.01 | sszopin | or do both swap their MyDocs for use of other sys? |
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| 22:25.35 | jacekowski | sszopin: you can't connect two hosts |
| 22:29.58 | sszopin | was just wondering if both weill show you choice: usb mass storage/nokia suite |
| 22:30.24 | sszopin | MAG flashed one with another N900, so they seem to cooperate |
| 22:30.48 | sszopin | but on standard setting it's interesting if both will offer mass storage... |
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| 22:33.51 | jacekowski | if it's in host mode it won't offer anything |
| 22:34.06 | jacekowski | it's storage or pcsuite or host |
| 22:36.41 | sszopin | ok, thanks, that clarifies |
| 22:42.24 | psycho_oreos | there's only two roles in USB, you're either a master or a slave. You can't have two masters talking to each other and likewise with two slaves |
| 22:44.04 | SpeedEvil | holds up a poster with 'OTH' on both sides. |
| 22:44.08 | SpeedEvil | Meh |
| 22:44.09 | sszopin | what happens when two masters get female-female connection going? |
| 22:44.11 | SpeedEvil | OTG |
| 22:44.32 | SpeedEvil | sszopin: If you connect two hosts and devices, they fail to authenticate |
| 22:44.43 | SpeedEvil | they cannot communicate on any level. |
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| 23:08.18 | lardman | night all |
| 23:09.26 | ketas | sszopin: are we talking about usb lesbianity? |
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