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| 00:14.24 | LaoLang_cool | hello, needing mplayer2 on maemo ;p |
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| 00:26.02 | Pali | maemo.org is down? |
| 00:27.02 | LaoLang_cool | Yes.. |
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| 00:34.48 | luke-jr | WHY NOTHING NEW WITH RESISTIVE TS? :| |
| 00:35.01 | DocScrutinizer | eh? |
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| 00:37.27 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: trying to find an upgrade, but *everything is capacitive* :< |
| 00:39.08 | DocScrutinizer | :-/ |
| 00:39.22 | javispedro | yeah |
| 00:39.41 | javispedro | best bet is actually that capacitive+wacom thing |
| 00:39.45 | javispedro | these days at least |
| 00:39.52 | javispedro | but I prefer resistive... |
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| 00:40.35 | DocScrutinizer | on embedded world last week I've seen quite a number of obviously 4wire resistive touchscreens and panels |
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| 00:41.01 | DocScrutinizer | so R-TS not dead |
| 00:41.03 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: on devices? |
| 00:41.08 | DocScrutinizer | at least for industrial |
| 00:41.16 | DocScrutinizer | nope, not on devices |
| 00:42.55 | luke-jr | sigh |
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| 00:48.04 | LaoLang_cool | Is it possible to import feeds list file into maemo's rss reader? |
| 00:48.24 | LaoLang_cool | I don't want to add it one by one, too hard to type... |
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| 02:16.16 | jonwil | ~seen pali |
| 02:16.22 | infobot | pali <~quassel@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1h 50m 20s ago, saying: 'maemo.org is down?'. |
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| 02:21.46 | LaoLang_cool | hello |
| 02:22.29 | LaoLang_cool | Is it possible to import feeds list file exported from other rss reader into maemo's built-in rss reader? |
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| 03:43.47 | drifter | whoa, i just tried taking a hi-res picture for the first time with flash, and the flash isn't working. I don't see anything about it on google, has anyone else had this problem? |
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| 04:51.48 | afojgounwhogf | hi all guys! :-D |
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| 06:07.39 | DocScrutinizer | and gals? |
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| 07:28.05 | sigmax | hi guys |
| 07:28.21 | sigmax | any chance whatsapp will be ported to maemo? |
| 07:29.07 | dm8tbr | ask whatsappp? |
| 07:29.53 | sigmax | so sad that the dev of maemo is close dead |
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| 07:34.07 | Hurrian | pali: any progress on the maemo5 adaptation of the nemo kernel? |
| 07:34.36 | Hurrian | so far, it looks like you meed scratchbox to do builds for maemo 5 |
| 07:34.45 | Hurrian | which is because gcc 4.2 |
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| 08:01.44 | Hector-no | hi. i have choppy sound with skype and sip even with kernel power reverted stock kernel. is there a workaround that i could follow ? |
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| 08:09.32 | Sicelo | you're sure it's not your network? |
| 08:10.00 | Hurrian | yeah, check for jitter and latency |
| 08:10.26 | freemangordon | Hector-no, disable wifi power management and check if it is the same |
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| 08:11.49 | Hurrian | freemangordon, doesnt maemo's wifi power management just seriously drop txpower? |
| 08:12.06 | Hurrian | it doesnt have actual power management |
| 08:12.33 | Sicelo | it does |
| 08:12.45 | freemangordon | nope, there are 2 options, one being tx power (10/100 mW), the other plays with some timeout value and has (disabled, medium, ?) options |
| 08:13.08 | freemangordon | PM is supported |
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| 08:31.30 | Hector-no | many thanks folks. i have the same problem either with 3g and wifi so i guess network should be ok. anyway i'll try wifi power management right away |
| 08:32.04 | Hurrian | same problem with wifi and 3g? |
| 08:32.16 | Hurrian | do you have any speedpatches installed? |
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| 08:36.55 | Hector-no | @Hurrian indeed I installed patches with kernel power. i guess they were removed when I reverted to stock kernel |
| 08:37.20 | Hurrian | speedpatch is not removed by going to stock kernel |
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| 08:42.38 | Hector-no | @hurrian going to remove it right away. hope this does the trick. Thank you very much. |
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| 08:55.26 | edheldil | I have uninstalled binary clock, but it still appears in the config menu. It vanishes after half a sec or so |
| 08:55.39 | Hector-no | @hurrian and others : thank you very much for your help. i removed speedpatch, reboot and skype is working at last. sip is stil choppy but i will play with wifi tx power. |
| 08:55.39 | edheldil | anyone has an idea what wrong? |
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| 08:56.30 | psycho_oreos | edheldil, you may have installed a conflicting program which also meddles with the fancy clock program? |
| 08:57.55 | edheldil | I do not understand... I have installed binary clock package and its plugin package via HAM, then later decided I did not like it and uninstalled it via HAM again |
| 08:59.15 | psycho_oreos | hmm weird sort of setup, I personally used that advanced clock thingy and never had issues. Only one package to install iirc |
| 09:00.17 | edheldil | I did not have issues, it worked. But it stays in the config menu |
| 09:00.53 | psycho_oreos | ahh wait, I get what you mean. I misread, |
| 09:01.34 | psycho_oreos | I guess when you removed that package, it did not remove or auto-remove its dependency |
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| 09:03.45 | edheldil | possibly |
| 09:03.55 | edheldil | I will check with dpkg, them |
| 09:03.59 | edheldil | then |
| 09:04.51 | psycho_oreos | iinm when one toys with apt-get, it will prompt packages that were installed as a dependency and that it is no longer required with an option that one must specify to auto-remove those packages |
| 09:06.36 | edheldil | is not autoremove forbidden? |
| 09:07.43 | psycho_oreos | what do you mean forbidden? no I don't think they restrict you from using it but if there's no un-needed dependency I guess the option isn't available |
| 09:07.48 | edheldil | iirc some core services depend on something in packages which will get happily autoremoved |
| 09:08.32 | psycho_oreos | well yeah if one wanted to take extra precautions, usually apt-get will tell which packages are no longer required and one can manually remove them by hand if so they wish |
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| 09:10.01 | MrPingu | well autoremove should work ;) Except once it borked my device and I was forced to reflash |
| 09:10.19 | MrPingu | I ended up having unresolved dependencies |
| 09:11.01 | psycho_oreos | I personally would never use autoremove function, if there was an extra package which is no longer needed and after doing some research I deem its not required, I will then remove it by hand |
| 09:11.23 | MrPingu | and the next time it wouldn't boot, but it never scared me away and I am still doing autoremove now and never had any problems |
| 09:12.53 | edheldil | maybe it got fixed in CSSU? It IS, after all, a trivial fix. I have no cssu yet, though |
| 09:13.40 | MrPingu | Idk, im on testing since the beginning |
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| 09:15.17 | MrPingu | Btw how to make a startup script to auto swapon /dev/mmcblk1p2 (sdcard swap parition) |
| 09:15.20 | psycho_oreos | I've been on CSSU for more or less the same duration but I haven't been toying with my N900 much :/ |
| 09:15.48 | psycho_oreos | hack the genfstab.awk? :> |
| 09:16.28 | MrPingu | where would that be? |
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| 09:17.25 | MrPingu | I was thinking of some event.d script but I don't the format of that |
| 09:18.08 | x29a | beeing on "2.6.28.10power46-wl1" - will the OTA update for the new kernel be ok? |
| 09:19.11 | psycho_oreos | MrPingu, I wouldn't know off the top of my head and I would be extremely wary if I were you when hacking genfstab.awk (if I got the name right). |
| 09:19.53 | MrPingu | Yeah, well I already thought that :P |
| 09:20.12 | MrPingu | Yes you can just safely go to power49 |
| 09:20.20 | x29a | ok thanks |
| 09:20.28 | psycho_oreos | find / -name "genfstab.awk" lol |
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| 09:20.58 | MrPingu | it include wireless injection patches too =) |
| 09:21.10 | psycho_oreos | x29a, my guess is the only reason why you've kept that kernel was only because of the wl1251 injection driver? |
| 09:21.34 | psycho_oreos | o.O I thought one still had to use lxp's bleeding edge driver |
| 09:22.02 | x29a | psycho_oreos: i was playing with the bleeding edge driver but mostly used the stock 46 version though |
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| 09:22.21 | x29a | im not using injection (i guess?) but im heavily relying on wireless and the wireless-ext |
| 09:22.28 | x29a | i hope im not stuck with nl80211 now |
| 09:22.42 | psycho_oreos | x29a, fair enough, well in worst case scenario, you can always use bleeding edge driver even with pk49 |
| 09:23.07 | MrPingu | Yes the driver need to be loaded seperately |
| 09:23.17 | x29a | ok, is there any combination i should avoid (possibly rendering the device unusable)? |
| 09:23.27 | psycho_oreos | there is a widget to make life easier |
| 09:23.32 | x29a | i got that |
| 09:23.52 | x29a | "lets try bootin it" *kick* |
| 09:24.12 | MrPingu | or make some script in /usr/bin call it wlandrload and respectively wlandrunload |
| 09:24.16 | psycho_oreos | not sure, but a proper and complete backup (by robbiethe1st) would be ideal |
| 09:24.38 | psycho_oreos | actually no it wouldn't be ideal when upgrading kernel *facepalms self* |
| 09:24.51 | MrPingu | I was writing that... |
| 09:24.52 | MrPingu | :P |
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| 09:25.51 | MrPingu | But I have an script that load's the drivers on the wlandrload command, as I don't like too much additional widgets :P |
| 09:25.58 | psycho_oreos | you could in theory alleviate that by manually extracting the previous kernel modules and then backing it up |
| 09:26.24 | MrPingu | Yes, not only in theory ^^ |
| 09:26.38 | psycho_oreos | even with the upgrades, the stock maemo kernel modules is still left untouched (unless you have removed them already) |
| 09:26.54 | x29a | ok, power49 booted, wireless is up (so far), but the bleeding edge widget is gone (not so bad for now), thanks guys! |
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| 09:27.07 | psycho_oreos | well I haven't tested that and by saying it in theory, I'm only covering my backside :D |
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| 09:27.32 | MrPingu | haha =) |
| 09:27.53 | MrPingu | wireless widget gone? You mean that satus bar applet? |
| 09:27.58 | x29a | yeah |
| 09:28.12 | x29a | used to be underneath the stock network applet |
| 09:28.12 | psycho_oreos | thinks a reinstall of that applet might help |
| 09:28.13 | MrPingu | that shouldn't be gone randomly |
| 09:29.03 | x29a | that would be "status-area-wlan-driver-selector-applet"? |
| 09:29.11 | MrPingu | yep |
| 09:29.29 | MrPingu | atleast it sound familiar |
| 09:29.45 | MrPingu | anyway I am on pre50 and it's awesome so far |
| 09:29.55 | MrPingu | even better batterysaving by SR =) |
| 09:30.22 | MrPingu | x29a, now you are on power49 you really should try to load dsp profile |
| 09:30.49 | MrPingu | then limit it again on 600 whatever you like |
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| 09:31.12 | x29a | i havent really played that much with the internals of the n900, just used it for wireless scanning, whats the "dsp profile"? |
| 09:32.05 | MrPingu | before you do anything: do you have kernel-power-settings installed and overclocked before? |
| 09:33.20 | x29a | im pretty sure, i never overclocked, since i need the device to be as stable as possible |
| 09:34.04 | MrPingu | ah well generaly ever device can overclock to 805 but just to be safe |
| 09:34.18 | x29a | forgive me my ignorance, most of the time, i use it via SSH and its hooked to a usb cable, so powerconsumption is no prawblem |
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| 09:35.04 | MrPingu | ah okie, but if you want better battery life you should turn on smartReflex, it's fixed now ;) |
| 09:35.53 | MrPingu | but if you don't need I shut up about it =) Thought it would be nice to make you aware of it ;) |
| 09:36.38 | x29a | yeah, thanks for the input. ill get back to you once i start using at as a phone an batterylife plays a bigger role =) |
| 09:37.47 | MrPingu | If I may aks, for what are you using it now? Pentest device? |
| 09:38.49 | x29a | wireless survey |
| 09:39.03 | x29a | and mostly, remote shell :> |
| 09:41.16 | x29a | hmz, seems like i b0rk3d some of my python, apt complains about "os" module not beeing available? http://pastebin.com/6FFYvswM |
| 09:41.27 | x29a | might be totally unrelated to the new kernel though |
| 09:45.20 | MrPingu | hmmm I think, that can't be becuz of new kernel |
| 09:45.23 | MrPingu | I think... |
| 09:45.41 | MrPingu | reinstall python? |
| 09:47.43 | x29a | it might just be a path thingie |
| 09:47.43 | MrPingu | anyway, want dpkg -l | grep python? |
| 09:48.00 | MrPingu | then you could see if you miss packages... |
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| 09:49.22 | MrPingu | http://pastebin.com/LdVkupe3 |
| 09:49.35 | MrPingu | that's what I got installed |
| 09:50.01 | x29a | thats definatly more than what i have |
| 09:50.56 | MrPingu | could be, I have some python programs |
| 09:51.17 | MrPingu | so it automatically resolved any extra python dependencies |
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| 09:52.15 | x29a | ok, apt-get wont work (python is broken), so ill get the packages by hand and do dpkg -i? |
| 09:53.25 | MrPingu | pff that's a pain |
| 09:54.49 | x29a | any alternatives? |
| 09:54.59 | MrPingu | idk, sorry |
| 09:55.12 | x29a | ok, thanks a lot so far |
| 09:55.28 | MrPingu | you could do apt-get install --reinstall python |
| 09:55.42 | MrPingu | it might get something fixed |
| 09:55.45 | MrPingu | or not... |
| 09:57.00 | MrPingu | Looked again, doesn't really seems like a dependency problem but rather a location/folder problem |
| 09:58.35 | MrPingu | Just like something has got deleted and now is needed again while depencies still match, but idk for sure |
| 09:59.51 | MrPingu | last time when I had apt-get problems I reflashed :P well that was 1 year ago, when I just had my N900 for 1 week and was new to linux haha |
| 10:00.10 | x29a | heh |
| 10:00.31 | x29a | i barely reboot the n900, so might very well be, that its an unresolved dep |
| 10:01.07 | MrPingu | really, mine becomes laggy once swap on MMC is getting full |
| 10:01.15 | MrPingu | about uptime of 2 days... |
| 10:01.48 | MrPingu | *eMMC |
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| 10:06.57 | wirr | hi all. MyDocs don't get mounted anymore. Anyone here familiar with maemo boot scripts / mount procedures? |
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| 10:08.10 | psycho_oreos | what did you do to lose MyDocs? |
| 10:08.29 | wirr | Encrypted /home :-) |
| 10:08.43 | wirr | but MyDocs is unmodified |
| 10:08.50 | wirr | still at p1 |
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| 10:09.38 | SpeedEvil | does fstab look sane? |
| 10:09.43 | wirr | yep |
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| 10:10.03 | wirr | /dev/mmcblk0p1 /home/user/MyDocs vfat noauto,nodev,noexec[...] |
| 10:10.26 | wirr | which script is responsible for mounting MyDocs? |
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| 10:35.14 | x29a | can somebody grep his n900 device for the "pysupport" module? im trying to figure out, in which .deb it might be |
| 10:36.42 | int_ua | x29a: please add bash commands and I will do it |
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| 10:37.57 | x29a | int_ua: find / -iname "*pysupport*" |
| 10:38.01 | x29a | its intensive though |
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| 10:39.52 | x29a | int_ua: hold your horses, i might have found it in (way too obvious) "python-support" |
| 10:40.12 | SpeedEvil | oh :) |
| 10:40.22 | x29a | SpeedEvil: thanks! |
| 10:43.03 | int_ua | yes, it's python-support, confirming :) |
| 10:44.14 | ruskie | http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/inception-brings-root-privileges-to-nokia-n9/ <-- I guess it was only a matter of time |
| 10:45.16 | psycho_oreos | that doesn't work with pr1.0 on the contrary :/ |
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| 10:50.34 | x29a | int_ua, SpeedEvil, MrPingu: thanks, i think that did the trick and python is restored as much as needed to reinstall itself =) |
| 10:56.12 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 14:05.26 | harbaum | Which library is glGenFramebuffersOES in? I find the prototypes in GLES/glext.h, but no library to link against .... |
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| 14:20.56 | chem|st | harbaum: better off to ask that in devel although some of them are here |
| 14:21.09 | chem|st | or even mailing list |
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| 14:31.31 | harbaum | I might actually also ask in #harmattan as i have the same problem there .... |
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| 14:51.56 | chem|st | harbaum: -devel? |
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| 15:17.56 | kerio | Uqjkt |
| 15:17.59 | kerio | whoops |
| 15:18.43 | harbaum | chem|st: There is no #maemo.devel or #harmattan-devel or are you talking about the mailing lists? |
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| 15:34.30 | chem|st | hardaker: #maemo-devel |
| 15:34.46 | hardaker | ? |
| 15:35.03 | chem|st | hardaker: sry |
| 15:35.10 | chem|st | oh he is gone... |
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| 16:43.48 | celesteh_ | the usb port on my n900 came lose and the phone won't charge. does anybody know if this is repairable? |
| 16:45.18 | edheldil | celesteh_: see the web site. It is repairable and if you are lucky, and are still under warranty, demand a replacement |
| 16:45.52 | edheldil | repairable with some nontrivial skill and not 100% |
| 16:46.21 | celesteh_ | but a repair shop ought to be able to do it, probably? |
| 16:46.33 | celesteh_ | thx edheldil |
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| 16:47.05 | edheldil | depends on a repair shop - in africa very probably, in europe I am not so sure :) |
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| 17:50.46 | Sicelo | heh... what makes africa able to repair while europe can't? |
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| 18:12.16 | SpeedEvil | Cost of labour. |
| 18:13.01 | SpeedEvil | An hour of skilled techs time is a much smaller proportion of the cost of the product. |
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| 19:30.18 | ShadowJK | a telemarketere called today, asking what kinsd of phone I have, what I like about it, and what I'd like improved. He then offeresd me a Nokia E7. I told him I'd buy a N900 or N950 if he could acquire one for me. |
| 19:30.30 | SpeedEvil | hah |
| 19:30.56 | SpeedEvil | Or a lumia or 808 running harmattan? |
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| 20:03.03 | RST38h | Gizmodo people have salivated all over their own web site. It is literally too painful to watch. |
| 20:06.07 | RST38h | "Not:apple" thing does not seem to work |
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| 20:20.01 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: this "official rooting" is maximum BS and will just result in one thing: Nokia fixing the flaw and therefore again delivering a new kernel, which again comes with no sources. Which means we again have to wait weeks or months until SDK1.2.1.iso will show up somewhere, so somebody is silly enough to again produce a proper openmode-kernel from it |
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| 20:22.12 | DocScrutinizer | and btw the 'author' of this "official rooting" is most concerned about how many newspapers and tweets are mentioning his great achievement (that actually doesn't achieve much that openmode kernel wouldn't deliver as well since months) |
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| 20:23.51 | Pali | should I again ask for DVD of source code? :D |
| 20:24.09 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: but please take it to #harmattan which I've quit to save my ears and eyes and nerves from dealing with exactly that topic |
| 20:26.59 | Sicelo | i hung out on that chan a while in the early days.. but decided i love my N900 much better. sorry for being OT DocScrutinizer. i'd never even have know about this new development if it wasn't posted here hours before |
| 20:28.29 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: I couldn't bother less. Javispedro and myself made PR1.2 kernel sources available yesterday, and same day this fool comes up with his 'great rooting tool" which doesn'T help fpor anything as I explained above. Well, he actually achieved to piss at least 3 contributors (incl me) who don't feel like fighting not only the insane 50% of Nokia staff but now also the 75% of stupid community that celebrates a tool that does nothing and will |
| 20:28.30 | DocScrutinizer | vanish in rather weeks than months |
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| 20:30.46 | DocScrutinizer | maybe it helps to know that several people tried since ~ xmass to explain to this cracker *why* we who know about how to root aegis since months haven't done what he now did |
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| 20:31.45 | DocScrutinizer | anyway MEH |
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| 20:31.54 | DocScrutinizer | & cyal8r |
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