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| 00:38.50 | arianon | Hello, new pseudo maemo user, pseudo in that I'm a new user of a Nokia N9. I was wondering if anyone else was using the N9 and having trouble with gmail not syncing all emails, and if so how did they fix it or is there a better email app than the one it comes with? |
| 00:43.44 | ShadowJK | imagines #harmattan or #n9 is better channel for N9 related |
| 00:44.16 | arianon | rog, thanks very much |
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| 00:56.53 | maher | is doing /etc/init.d/wlancond restart meant to reboot my n900? |
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| 01:05.04 | DocScrutinizer | quite possibly |
| 01:07.05 | DocScrutinizer | wlancond is meant to get controlled by initctl, not by direct calls of rtc/init.d/* |
| 01:07.49 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# initctl status wlancond |
| 01:07.51 | DocScrutinizer | wlancond (start) running, process 1629 |
| 01:07.53 | ShadowJK | Might be included in the "reboot if vital processes die" thing |
| 01:08.28 | DocScrutinizer | stop wlancond && sleep 5 && start wlancond |
| 01:10.39 | DocScrutinizer | yawns |
| 01:11.44 | DocScrutinizer | actually initctl list is a intriguing cmd |
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| 01:17.28 | DocScrutinizer | idly ponders to play a bit with nasties like "start act-dead" etc |
| 01:18.01 | DocScrutinizer | maybe "start testserver" |
| 01:18.32 | DocScrutinizer | or "start phonet-at" |
| 01:19.04 | DocScrutinizer | start reboot is probably quite obvious |
| 01:19.57 | DocScrutinizer | while "start welcome" or "start pin-query" might give me ideas |
| 01:22.35 | DocScrutinizer | hrrhrrhrrrr! start control-alt-delete |
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| 11:01.53 | aparaatti | hi, I just learned to connect with vnc to my n9... wonder if I can somehow hide the virtual keyboard in terminal? |
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| 11:05.51 | aparaatti | also is there some kind of sensible key bindings for handling the UI from pc.... |
| 11:07.38 | aparaatti | oh, I can just ssh to the phone :) |
| 11:11.03 | aparaatti | is get permission denied, anyone help? |
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| 11:29.01 | Meizirkki | infobot, Y U R BOT? |
| 11:29.14 | Meizirkki | I IZ NOT |
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| 20:23.37 | dimir | EHLO |
| 20:25.24 | dimir | I have pr 1.2 on my n900. libqt4-core installed is 4.6.2 . In the App Manager there are no updates. When I run "apt-cache show policy libqt4-core" I see 4.7.0 available. Do you know why I can't get that 4.7.0 using an App Manager? |
| 20:26.14 | Sicelo | i'd first wonder why you're on PR1.2 |
| 20:26.31 | dimir | How easy is to update to 1.3? |
| 20:26.38 | dimir | Just set it in the catalogue? |
| 20:27.05 | Sicelo | very easy.. i did it within hours of buying my N900 (which came with PR1.1) |
| 20:27.09 | dimir | Damn, seems I have some dependency problems. This is why no update in the app manager. |
| 20:27.23 | dimir | Sicelo: so, how? |
| 20:27.34 | Sicelo | yes, you can update OTA. i find that flashing is quickest though |
| 20:27.41 | Sicelo | ~flashing |
| 20:27.41 | infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 20:28.01 | dimir | Sicelo: OTA == ? |
| 20:28.32 | dimir | Sicelo: can I do the flashing through usb cable? |
| 20:28.45 | dimir | Sicelo: I guess I should rtfm. :-D |
| 20:28.56 | Sicelo | OTA is updating via Application Manager (OTA = Over The Air) |
| 20:29.06 | Sicelo | and yes, you flash through cable.. |
| 20:29.34 | Sicelo | and read that page from infobot. flashing is easy, but there are a few caveats :P |
| 20:30.23 | Sicelo | if you prefer OTA, check this one out, http://wiki.maemo.org/SSU |
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| 20:48.07 | dimir | thanks Sicelo! |
| 20:48.23 | dimir | Sicelo: I guess the caveats you mean is bricking the device? :-D |
| 20:49.57 | Sicelo | nope. quite a difficult task to brick it :) |
| 20:50.31 | Sicelo | caveat is a non-stop "Suitable USB device not found .... Waiting" |
| 20:52.10 | dimir | Ah. |
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| 20:52.28 | dimir | I have messed up dependencies, so I guess the flashing is preferred? |
| 20:52.43 | dimir | OTA would mean adding a fremantle-1.3 catalog? |
| 20:53.16 | merlin1991 | dimir: yes flashing is preferred |
| 20:53.22 | merlin1991 | and no OTA would mean you do have to just use ham, and it should work by iself |
| 20:53.24 | Sicelo | you can use OTA as well.. but flashing is quicker, and you're 100% sure it will work |
| 20:53.48 | dimir | right, thanks guys, I'll try flashing. |
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| 20:54.47 | Sicelo | just read the page and understand it, especially if you're not using Linux |
| 20:57.38 | dimir | I am. |
| 20:57.55 | dimir | Dang, that tutorial on youtube has no audio and the text is so small. |
| 20:58.21 | dimir | Flashing won't touch my /home/user data, right? |
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| 20:59.55 | guylhem_ | hello |
| 21:00.14 | dimir | oh man |
| 21:00.24 | dimir | I guess I'm only interested in flashing rootfs. |
| 21:00.30 | dimir | Not emmc. |
| 21:01.13 | merlin1991 | dimir: falshing emmc touches everything |
| 21:01.30 | merlin1991 | flashing rootfs leaves your /home/user and /home/user/Mydocs alone |
| 21:01.48 | merlin1991 | you'll only have to reinstall already installed apps |
| 21:02.03 | dimir | merlin1991: right. |
| 21:08.15 | dimir | I made a backup first time in my life. :-D |
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| 21:41.35 | guylhem_ | which files should I manually edit to restore the default theme? The theme I tried to tweak is very slow. With the gui I tried to select the default theme but it didn't help on the slowness problems |
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| 22:04.53 | definity | hey, any abody around who has a N900 |
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| 22:46.09 | definity | hello? |
| 22:46.53 | NIN101 | definity: yes, plenty of us, just ask your question, and somebody might help. |
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| 22:48.39 | definity | Thx, well i have a N900 i am using the inbuilt Media player to connect to my windows media player which i have manedged to get working i can browes through the movies and songs but when ever i go to play one it just constantly says connecting and never connect, any ideas on how to fix the problem? |
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| 22:59.50 | dimir | Sicelo, merlin1991: oh man, it went smoothly! I've flashed rootfs and all my settings are there! Thanks! |
| 23:06.59 | DocScrutinizer | dimir: major caveat is "CHARGE YOUR BATTERY!!" |
| 23:07.07 | dimir | Haha, not all the settings it seems. E. g. my mail accounts are gone. But that's not a problem. :-) |
| 23:07.19 | dimir | DocScrutinizer: I see. :-) |
| 23:08.24 | DocScrutinizer | dimir: and right, you shouldn't flash eMMC |
| 23:08.41 | dimir | yep. |
| 23:09.10 | DocScrutinizer | actually your mail accounts shouldn't vanish either |
| 23:09.23 | DocScrutinizer | dunno why they would be affected |
| 23:09.27 | dimir | I have a backup. :-) |
| 23:09.54 | dimir | Maybe I should try to restore. :-P |
| 23:10.05 | dimir | I wasn't using a default theme either. |
| 23:10.10 | DocScrutinizer | dimir: btw while you're at it, it's a optimal moment to consider jumping onto the CSSU train right now |
| 23:10.30 | dimir | ~cssu |
| 23:10.30 | infobot | [cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 23:10.35 | DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest CSSU-Stable |
| 23:11.21 | dimir | I see. |
| 23:11.26 | dimir | Thanks for the info, will do! |
| 23:11.36 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
| 23:12.00 | dimir | I wonder if I should check if GSM module works. :-D |
| 23:12.14 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, why shouldn't it? |
| 23:12.18 | dimir | BTW, were there any improvements on the GSM module in 1.3 regarding to 1.2? |
| 23:12.25 | DocScrutinizer | well, yeah there were some incidents |
| 23:12.39 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 23:12.44 | dimir | ah, darn. |
| 23:12.52 | dimir | So it's still sucky. :-D |
| 23:13.39 | DocScrutinizer | but some users flashed - presumably - US version while GSM been on international version before, or vice versa. And that in rare cases caused problems |
| 23:14.02 | DocScrutinizer | what's sucky with your GSM? |
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| 23:14.26 | DocScrutinizer | it works mostly fine here |
| 23:14.51 | DocScrutinizer | in USA the problem is more fundamental with the poor GSM coverage |
| 23:15.13 | DocScrutinizer | and the weird non-standard bands used for 3G |
| 23:16.21 | DocScrutinizer | and probably a lot of other stuff in some of the 976some carriers that all invent their own flavour of GSM/UMTS network covering an area as large as 30km^2 |
| 23:17.00 | DocScrutinizer | USA is 3rd world regarding wireless |
| 23:17.18 | DocScrutinizer | sorry dudes, you have to admit I'm right ;-P |
| 23:17.58 | dimir | I'm in Eastern Europe. :-) The sucky bit is signal. It's weaker than any other devices wherever I go. |
| 23:22.27 | Meizirkki | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/memes-advice-dash-cooler.jpg |
| 23:25.28 | DocScrutinizer | dimir: weaker by what metrics? |
| 23:26.22 | DocScrutinizer | dimir: do your calls abort and/or you're not reachable while other devices work flawlessly *on _same_ band* in same location? |
| 23:26.32 | dimir | DocScrutinizer: E. g. we go out of city, I have no signal, my friends have 30-40 %. |
| 23:26.47 | DocScrutinizer | percent gauges are a lie |
| 23:26.59 | dimir | DocScrutinizer: hehe ye but I can not make a call. |
| 23:27.23 | dimir | DocScrutinizer: and if they call me I'm out of reach. Others with same provider can call/receive calls. |
| 23:27.29 | DocScrutinizer | while your friend can make a call *using* *same* *carrier*? |
| 23:27.37 | dimir | yep. |
| 23:27.43 | dimir | For sure. |
| 23:27.46 | DocScrutinizer | now that's strange |
| 23:28.03 | dimir | I'm now thinking maybe it's the device. |
| 23:28.11 | DocScrutinizer | I never found N900 has a particularly poor sensitivity |
| 23:28.11 | dimir | But let's see how it goes with pr1.3. :-) |
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| 23:28.30 | DocScrutinizer | won't change anything |
| 23:28.41 | dimir | Oh man, I have enabled CSSU-Stable and no updates? :-P |
| 23:28.51 | DocScrutinizer | sensitivity didn't change with any of the modem FW updates |
| 23:29.45 | dimir | I see. |
| 23:29.48 | DocScrutinizer | some devices have hw problems with modem sensitivity or keeping connection/registration though |
| 23:30.04 | dimir | Now that might be it. |
| 23:30.13 | DocScrutinizer | most notorious case: SIM not detected |
| 23:30.27 | dimir | Haven't had problems with that. |
| 23:30.32 | DocScrutinizer | but of course there are other problems possible |
| 23:31.10 | dimir | Well, it's rare case, I loose connection only if I'm in certain places where the signal is weak. |
| 23:31.14 | DocScrutinizer | like poor sensitivity, due to either solderpoints, or chip deterioration, or simply a poor contact to antenna |
| 23:31.19 | dimir | So I can live with that. :-) |
| 23:32.10 | DocScrutinizer | what's your issue with CSSU now? |
| 23:32.30 | dimir | DocScrutinizer: no issues, I have enabled it but I thought there will be updates. :-) |
| 23:32.57 | dimir | Or wait... |
| 23:33.05 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, I dunno if there are updates beyond what already gets installed when you install CSSU |
| 23:33.05 | dimir | It's an app I should run. |
| 23:33.07 | dimir | OMG. |
| 23:33.16 | dimir | I ran it now. |
| 23:33.34 | DocScrutinizer | please read that web page about CSSU carefully |
| 23:33.44 | dimir | DocScrutinizer: OK. :-) |
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| 23:34.05 | dimir | wow, lots of updates now! |
| 23:34.26 | dimir | libqtm stuff |
| 23:34.52 | dimir | 27.7 MB |
| 23:36.49 | dimir | Including CSSU stable update #2.1 |
| 23:37.13 | dimir | Hmm, reading that page is useful. :-D |
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