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| 00:59.30 | Guest99557 | I'd like to streamline my repos. Can someone share a link of available repos? I feel sure I have some I don't need whilst others I do but perhaps aren't the latest for my build (Maemo 5 on N900 version 20.2010.36-2.002) |
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| 04:57.04 | internetishard | what does it mean when you call a number and it says not available, but when you call support they claim they can call the number? |
| 04:57.12 | internetishard | The number is 877-723-7245 |
| 04:57.36 | internetishard | It has just said, "number not available" to me for the entire last week - I try everyday. I've never heard of this before. |
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| 05:09.25 | luke-jr | internetishard: some idiots setup toll-free numbers that only work from some phones |
| 05:11.22 | internetishard | luke-jr: yeah tmo couldn't even call it |
| 05:11.23 | internetishard | heh |
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| 07:09.03 | Macer | hm |
| 07:09.29 | Macer | i am starting to suspect that omweather was absorbing an excessive amount of battery |
| 07:09.40 | Macer | foreca seems to be more kind |
| 07:10.34 | Macer | maybe problems refreshing? |
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| 07:45.50 | DocScrutinizer | quite possible |
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| 07:51.22 | LaoLang_cool | How to find a contact matching with a string? Say I want to find some contacts that have "MS" in any of the contact description fields |
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| 07:58.24 | DocScrutinizer | good question - at least the standard contacts app is painfully missing this global search. |
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| 07:59.15 | DocScrutinizer | LaoLang_cool: Nicolai to the rescue: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60526&page=3 |
| 08:05.18 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: seems it's not the global searching, anyway, better than haven't |
| 08:06.16 | DocScrutinizer | LaoLang_cool: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=990571#post990571 |
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| 08:06.37 | DocScrutinizer | you easily can change that to do whatever search you like |
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| 08:08.08 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: yes, but I'm not a programmer :( What I want is just a contactsearch.sh "MS", then all contacts haveing "MS" in any field will be listed up... |
| 08:08.54 | DocScrutinizer | sorry, no time right now to patch that scriptie so it does exactly what you ask for |
| 08:09.11 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: thank you anyway |
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| 12:02.41 | int | Hi, anyone here with power kernel active at the moment? |
| 12:03.59 | int | I'm trying to chroot into the latest ubuntu image and found info that it worked in 2010 on power-kernel |
| 12:04.18 | Sicelo | ask your question |
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| 12:05.48 | int | I want to start with checking if there is something in /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc |
| 12:06.02 | int | Sicelo: ^ |
| 12:06.17 | int | on non-power kernel it's empty |
| 12:06.58 | Sicelo | the directory is empty as well here |
| 12:07.02 | Sicelo | kp49 |
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| 12:10.18 | int | Sicelo: Okay, thank you. I'm sorry to bother you but can you post $ lsmod result? on Pastebin? Will make mine in a moment and you can only briefly compare them if you don't want to post |
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| 12:12.28 | Sicelo | http://pastebin.com/SDMip7TB |
| 12:12.50 | int | http://pastebin.com/b7LRkeed |
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| 12:25.38 | int | and nothing related to chroot.. Thanks a lot :) and I'm out of ideas currently... |
| 12:31.42 | Sicelo | no one here knows what you are doing, or what problems you're facing. i doubt they can help you in that case. mind stating what the problem really is? |
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| 12:33.52 | adroc | Hello ! I am thinking of getting a 2nd hand n900, and am curious of various little things about this phone and distro |
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| 12:34.39 | psycho_oreos | its not exactly a smartphone |
| 12:35.00 | adroc | yes I understood its more a very tiny computer |
| 12:35.43 | psycho_oreos | and you should also realise that nokia no longer recognises maemo as their platform. They have more or less disowned it |
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| 12:36.13 | adroc | I'm reluctant in giving all my life details to google, and using linux only at home since ages, so I thought n900 may be a nice toy for me, that I could use as a phone too |
| 12:36.54 | psycho_oreos | It is a nice toy if you're familiar with linux, especially the command line stuff |
| 12:37.14 | psycho_oreos | and also be quick to forgiving its shortfalls |
| 12:37.22 | mgedmin | adroc, I was pretty happy with it one year ago -- not as a phone, but as a portable hand-held computer |
| 12:37.30 | mgedmin | as a phone it's not very nice |
| 12:37.47 | adroc | like, too big ? or feature wise ? |
| 12:37.58 | mgedmin | (short battery life, slow and non-responsive UI after a while) |
| 12:37.58 | adroc | k |
| 12:38.04 | mgedmin | see, you can do so much with it that you tend to do it a lot |
| 12:38.14 | mgedmin | which means battery doesn't last the entire day |
| 12:38.26 | mgedmin | and since you can do stuff, you tend to fill its tiny little 256 MB of RAM with web pages and stuff |
| 12:38.30 | psycho_oreos | most smartphones these days are more or less the same |
| 12:38.32 | Sicelo | and 'weak' usb port (which is the life of the device) |
| 12:38.45 | mgedmin | which means when you get an incoming call, the n900 is busy swapping things out so it can display you the incoming number etc |
| 12:38.46 | adroc | Sicelo: I heard of it yes |
| 12:38.55 | mgedmin | I've seen this take, uhh, I didn't measure |
| 12:38.57 | mgedmin | 30 seconds? |
| 12:39.03 | adroc | ouch |
| 12:39.06 | mgedmin | let's settle with "unacceptably long" for me |
| 12:39.11 | mgedmin | maybe it was more like 10 seconds |
| 12:39.13 | psycho_oreos | it gets worse the longer the uptime is |
| 12:39.21 | mgedmin | yes! |
| 12:39.26 | int | Sicelo: the problem is that binaries that look no different from ones from Debian that succesfully chroot will not execute with "Exec format error" |
| 12:39.49 | psycho_oreos | even when it comes to acting as a simple alarm clock, hitting the stop button takes seconds to respond and all that time you keep hearing the alarm chime |
| 12:40.19 | int | Here is the old thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=64651 (but without any useful info except link to person who tried it and never answered the last question) |
| 12:40.49 | adroc | how active is the community ? nokia dropped support, but enthusiasts are still here, and repos too ? well, you seem to be here, anyways :) |
| 12:40.55 | psycho_oreos | the USB port issue is well known within tmo but there's a thread or two about dodgy audio port |
| 12:41.11 | psycho_oreos | most of the community repositories are up |
| 12:41.56 | int | Sicelo: the only difference between executables is stated kernel version but it varies both in Debian ELFs and Ubuntu ELFs |
| 12:41.57 | psycho_oreos | nokia's repositories are also up but nokia doesn't provide any updates apart from security update (which was already fixed initially by the community) |
| 12:42.30 | adroc | I have an old e65, it is getting hard to find anything for it |
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| 12:43.08 | int | like "for GNU/Linux 2.6.14" or 2.6.16, 18 |
| 12:43.25 | psycho_oreos | N900 may too soon suffer the same fate |
| 12:44.10 | adroc | yes, this is what makes me a bit afraid . I have the feeling I wil have fun with this, but that it won't last long |
| 12:46.52 | psycho_oreos | ideally a few N900 would be nice if your budget permits |
| 12:47.57 | mgedmin | would rather buy a n9 than a few n900s: the hardware is slicker and more powerful |
| 12:49.34 | psycho_oreos | loathes at the idea of hw-keyboard-less devices despite the fact that he too owns a n9 as well |
| 12:50.43 | Sicelo | ah, didn't know you upgraded as well :) |
| 12:50.49 | adroc | actually I like the idea of the phtsical kb |
| 12:51.14 | adroc | and well, n9 is not in the same price range |
| 12:52.09 | psycho_oreos | I would love to have N950 despite the fact that its not available publicly and that in some ways its a little inferior to n9. However I just can't stand the pure touchscreen keyboard regardless of the amount of time I spent forgiving the fact that theres simply no proper hardware keyboard |
| 12:52.21 | psycho_oreos | Sicelo, more like a downgrade imo |
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| 12:53.05 | psycho_oreos | the other day I was helping a bloke with his N900 and his query made me dig out my N900 which I must admit that I could love N900 all over again |
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| 12:55.10 | Sicelo | :) |
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| 12:57.13 | psycho_oreos | and speaking of N950 vs n9, I just recalled of a belief that I have held. The fact that one can't get N950 but is a tinkerer that can only get n9 as a result is really pushing oneself in a vulnerable state in front of developers whom were gifted with N950. Its more like a master and slave relationship compared to N900 days where both the dev and the end users were on the same level playing field |
| 12:57.21 | psycho_oreos | try not to get sodomised ;) |
| 13:00.18 | int | I think I've found.. not the answer but the link to the reason: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=871036&postcount=1857 |
| 13:10.46 | adroc | ok, thank you guys for your input - I'll let a few nights pass before deciding :) |
| 13:10.50 | adroc | have a nice day ! |
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| 13:50.47 | int | I was wrong about versions |
| 13:51.37 | int | most of debian ELFs are for 2.6.18 |
| 13:51.49 | int | and not a single one in ubuntu |
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| 20:05.33 | Pali | ping onion |
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| 20:07.20 | HaXeri | ping pong |
| 20:07.35 | HaXeri | can i has an japanian input on N9? |
| 20:07.48 | wmarone | what input? |
| 20:07.57 | e0x | kana keyboard ? |
| 20:08.01 | HaXeri | yup |
| 20:08.30 | HaXeri | im wondering if i should buy N9 or lumia 800 |
| 20:08.37 | e0x | HaXeri: https://code.google.com/p/maliit-plugin-jp/ |
| 20:08.42 | e0x | try that |
| 20:09.07 | wmarone | mmm, can't see that page without letting google riddle me with cookies |
| 20:09.34 | kerio | HaXeri: samsung galaxy note |
| 20:09.45 | e0x | https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page |
| 20:10.37 | wmarone | ah, yeah |
| 20:11.00 | wmarone | notes that down in the event he gets an N9 |
| 20:11.30 | HaXeri | kerio: why, tell me some key features |
| 20:11.39 | kerio | HaXeri: it's huge as fuck |
| 20:11.50 | kerio | HaXeri: nice screen |
| 20:12.00 | kerio | HaXeri: plays angry birds |
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| 20:40.14 | HaXeri | kerio: i dont need a huge screen, a large resolution would be nice |
| 20:40.37 | kerio | HaXeri: my suggestion was only partly serious, mind you |
| 20:41.00 | kerio | the galaxy note has awesome specs, a beautiful screen, and IT'S FUCKING HUGE |
| 20:41.06 | kerio | and it has android |
| 20:41.08 | kerio | so that's dumb |
| 20:41.28 | kerio | but considering that the alternative is basically either another android phone, an iphone, or another n900... |
| 20:41.29 | HaXeri | i saw a dumb girl at school holding a huge android phone today |
| 20:41.37 | HaXeri | wonder if it was note |
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| 20:48.39 | ShadowJK | note looks awesome |
| 20:48.46 | ShadowJK | but android and no keyboard :/ |
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| 22:07.46 | freemangordon | Pali, ping |
| 22:07.53 | Pali | pong |
| 22:08.31 | freemangordon | I think there is something wrong with your latest KP .debs |
| 22:08.42 | freemangordon | I've never seen those missing symbols |
| 22:08.50 | freemangordon | from KP development thread |
| 22:09.00 | Pali | that missing symbols was in v49 too |
| 22:09.12 | Pali | at least on my n90 |
| 22:09.16 | Pali | *n900 |
| 22:09.29 | freemangordon | kp49 in repos? |
| 22:09.44 | Pali | dont remember |
| 22:10.16 | Pali | but I saw that missing symbols in some v49 (maybe pre or repo) version |
| 22:11.02 | Pali | freemangordon, I cannot kill fm* processes - it is OK? |
| 22:11.11 | freemangordon | give me a minute to find the thread |
| 22:12.07 | freemangordon | Pali, do you have fcam drivers? |
| 22:12.13 | Pali | no |
| 22:13.21 | freemangordon | when do those messages appear, right after a reboot? |
| 22:13.53 | freemangordon | Pali ^^^ |
| 22:17.17 | freemangordon | Pali, cannot reproduce it here |
| 22:17.21 | [DarkGUNMAN] | quick quesstion. is there a way to disable font antialiasing in maemo? |
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| 22:21.57 | [DarkGUNMAN] | or is there a way to convert ttf to bitmap? |
| 22:24.03 | freemangordon | [DarkGUNMAN] programatically? |
| 22:24.17 | [DarkGUNMAN] | system wide font |
| 22:24.40 | freemangordon | I meant: in runtime, or offline using some tool? |
| 22:25.16 | [DarkGUNMAN] | if converting ttf to bitmap it would be a tool. |
| 22:25.38 | [DarkGUNMAN] | if disabling antialiasing then it would be useful to know |
| 22:25.58 | [DarkGUNMAN] | may speed up page rendering in some apps |
| 22:26.23 | [DarkGUNMAN] | tesing it against phoneme |
| 22:27.00 | freemangordon | well, but why don't do it as a part of the code? |
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| 22:27.39 | freemangordon | you cannot convert all the fonts and all the sizes before running the app |
| 22:28.06 | [DarkGUNMAN] | I'll suggest it to the author and see if he can disable it in code |
| 22:28.47 | freemangordon | if he is using QT, then i can bet it is possible |
| 22:29.33 | [DarkGUNMAN] | i'd like to generate a bitmap font myself with set sizes. any good tools you could suggest? |
| 22:30.01 | [DarkGUNMAN] | yeah i think part of the code is qt, could work |
| 22:30.14 | freemangordon | nope, I am trying to stay away from fonts :) |
| 22:30.33 | freemangordon | let me check what can be done with QFont |
| 22:32.52 | freemangordon | [DarkGUNMAN], QFont::setStyleStrategy(QFont::NoAntialias) ;) |
| 22:33.18 | freemangordon | NFC if that actually works |
| 22:37.28 | [DarkGUNMAN] | i'll pass it on. Thank you :) |
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| 23:13.35 | dole | hello |
| 23:14.16 | dole | is it possible to update libc6 on Maemo with package from debian.org? |
| 23:14.27 | dole | or any other way |
| 23:20.38 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | mumbles "Frage an Radio Eriwan: Kann Mercedes fahren um 90° kruve mit 120 Kilometer schnell? - Antwort von Radio Eriwan: In Prinzip ja, aber nur einmal" |
| 23:22.17 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | dole: probably it would be easier to find an answer for you that doesn'T sound like Radio Eriwan, when you would tell what's your problem, rather than asking if it is possible to do something weird |
| 23:23.10 | dole | Doc_No_ACTA_zer: I want to install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/armel/hydra-gtk/6.5-1 |
| 23:23.30 | dole | and to do that, I need "hydra" |
| 23:24.07 | dole | which need libc6 >=2.7 |
| 23:27.41 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | well for sure you can try to compile libc6>=2.7 for fremantle and then install it *locally* for hydra. I doubt fremantle in general will be happy with a new libc6 |
| 23:28.04 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | probably you even could link hydra statically |
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| 23:28.38 | dole | I did try to install it, and yes, the n900 didn´t like it |
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| 23:28.53 | dole | I reflashing my phone as we speak |
| 23:28.53 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | but to be honest, I doubt hydra will work on N900 without massive tweaking |
| 23:29.07 | dole | I guess you are right |
| 23:29.29 | dole | maybe I should find an alternative |
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| 23:30.17 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | well, I think there should be chroot environments that have all the dependencies you need |
| 23:30.50 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | yet I dunno how lowlevel is the stuff that h<dra does |
| 23:31.16 | dole | here is a list of dependens for hydra: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/armel/hydra/6.5-1 |
| 23:31.35 | dole | if it is any help |
| 23:31.42 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | this only trnasposes the problem |
| 23:33.09 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | then it's not the question "can hydra tweak TOS bits in IP packets" but "can libc6 do that when compiled for N900 and running on stock kernel" - to pick a random made up example |
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| 23:33.25 | dole | ah, I see |
| 23:34.04 | dole | maybe I can find an older version of hydra that doesn´t need libc6 2.7 |
| 23:34.22 | dole | I guess that would make everything a lot easier |
| 23:34.45 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | if you can find a version that doesn't list lib deps that are not available on fremantle, then your chances are good to get it to work |
| 23:34.56 | dole | yeah |
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| 23:35.41 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | tbh I have nfc what libc6 version is standard on fremantle |
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| 23:36.42 | dole | 2.5 |
| 23:38.51 | dole | i found the source code for hydra 6.1 |
| 23:39.06 | dole | I don´t think it will need libc6 2.7 |
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| 23:47.59 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I still wonder if standard GTK will work on Hildon |
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| 23:48.53 | hakkattakk | yeah, it would be great if it did work |
| 23:48.54 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | GeneralAntilles: heyhey, long time no see of your gan900 imperonation |
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| 23:49.27 | hakkattakk | I´m kinda suprised of all the programs I have got to work on the n900 |
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| 23:50.32 | hakkattakk | Onesixtyone, SIPVicious, Yersinia |
| 23:50.35 | hakkattakk | Metasploit |
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| 23:50.53 | hakkattakk | and there are som usefull programs in the repo too |
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| 23:51.02 | hakkattakk | like WireShark and Kismet |
| 23:51.06 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | well, it's GNU userland and X11 |
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| 23:51.45 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | even a sane kernel, though a bit over-mature |
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| 23:52.19 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | hakkattakk: even aircrack |
| 23:52.41 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | and the way more useful tshark |
| 23:52.50 | hakkattakk | yeah |
| 23:52.59 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | as wireshark is useless without a 1280*800 monitor |
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| 23:53.18 | hakkattakk | Cleven is really nice |
| 23:53.33 | hakkattakk | I couldn´t get Wifite to work though |
| 23:53.51 | hakkattakk | doesn´t do package injection |
| 23:53.57 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | yeah, the fremantle maemo community is a nice bunch |
| 23:54.01 | hakkattakk | but with Cleven it worked really nice |
| 23:54.08 | hakkattakk | :) |
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| 23:54.49 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I think you need lxp's wifi driver for proper monitormode and injection |
| 23:55.36 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | afaik with stock kernel and drivers even airodump only monitors chan6 |
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| 23:56.00 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | and aireplay no dice |
| 23:56.33 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | unless of course you use a second WLAN-USB dongle ;-D |
| 23:57.08 | hakkattakk | yeah, but I loaded the drivers from cleven, and removed the line that pointed to the "loaddriver"-script in wifite. So I guess it used the packet injection-drivers fron cleven |
| 23:57.13 | hakkattakk | but it still didn´t work |
| 23:57.30 | hakkattakk | but Cleven is really nice too, so I guess I can use that instead |
| 23:57.44 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | never looked into it |
| 23:57.59 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | I'm not a pen guy |
| 23:58.38 | hakkattakk | me neither, but I want too be some day |
| 23:58.41 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | or... I feel more relaxed when I don't have to be one ;-D |
| 23:59.14 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | but it's nice to know I could any time |
| 23:59.33 | hakkattakk | what do you work with then? |
| 23:59.44 | Doc_No_ACTA_zer | errr |
| 23:59.54 | hakkattakk | or do you study? |